1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:19,714 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast from Mamma Mia. 2 00:00:19,914 --> 00:00:23,034 Speaker 2: Welcome to this fill your daily pop culture fixed. I'm 3 00:00:23,114 --> 00:00:26,273 Speaker 2: Laura Brodnick and I'm a Burnham and welcome to the 4 00:00:26,274 --> 00:00:28,674 Speaker 2: brudly honest review of a new Room Cam on Netflix 5 00:00:28,714 --> 00:00:31,354 Speaker 2: that everyone has been talking about for different reasons. 6 00:00:31,794 --> 00:00:36,354 Speaker 1: People we meet on vacation, Yes, Yes, people we know 7 00:00:36,554 --> 00:00:36,994 Speaker 1: on vacation. 8 00:00:37,314 --> 00:00:39,234 Speaker 2: Yes is the name of the movie and the book 9 00:00:39,273 --> 00:00:41,473 Speaker 2: by Emily Henry on which it is based. 10 00:00:41,513 --> 00:00:44,193 Speaker 1: So just before we jump in, spoilers for. 11 00:00:44,233 --> 00:00:46,793 Speaker 2: Both the movie and the book because we're going to 12 00:00:46,793 --> 00:00:49,034 Speaker 2: be diving into both. So if you're new to brutally 13 00:00:49,074 --> 00:00:52,154 Speaker 2: honest reviews, these are the episodes where we deep dive 14 00:00:52,193 --> 00:00:54,874 Speaker 2: into whatever new movie or TV show has come out 15 00:00:55,034 --> 00:00:57,554 Speaker 2: that is buzzy. Everyone's talking about it, for better or 16 00:00:57,594 --> 00:01:00,273 Speaker 2: for worse, for worse maybe in your case, and we 17 00:01:00,394 --> 00:01:01,034 Speaker 2: just get into. 18 00:01:00,914 --> 00:01:03,073 Speaker 1: All the little nitty gritty. Yeah, here we go. 19 00:01:03,194 --> 00:01:05,754 Speaker 2: People we meet on vacation based, as I said, on 20 00:01:05,834 --> 00:01:08,074 Speaker 2: the novel of the same name by Emily Henry. 21 00:01:08,194 --> 00:01:11,113 Speaker 1: Em So you're a big em hen fan, I am. 22 00:01:11,514 --> 00:01:15,554 Speaker 1: I love Emily Henry books. I've read three books of hers. 23 00:01:15,634 --> 00:01:16,953 Speaker 1: I haven't read this one. 24 00:01:17,194 --> 00:01:18,074 Speaker 3: Oh interesting. 25 00:01:18,154 --> 00:01:20,194 Speaker 2: No, No, this is a great dynamic that we should 26 00:01:20,234 --> 00:01:21,954 Speaker 2: do for every show, but we're not always that organized. 27 00:01:22,234 --> 00:01:24,234 Speaker 2: Is that you haven't read the book but I have. Yeah, 28 00:01:24,274 --> 00:01:25,714 Speaker 2: so we can come to it with two different sizes. 29 00:01:25,714 --> 00:01:27,034 Speaker 2: Which m Hen books have you read. 30 00:01:27,154 --> 00:01:32,314 Speaker 1: I've read Funny Story, I've read everyone says fun It's 31 00:01:32,354 --> 00:01:36,114 Speaker 1: so good, it's really good. I've read Happy Place. I've 32 00:01:36,154 --> 00:01:39,674 Speaker 1: read her latest one, Great, Big Beautiful Life, which is 33 00:01:39,674 --> 00:01:43,434 Speaker 1: also really really good. But the thing is with em 34 00:01:43,554 --> 00:01:46,753 Speaker 1: hen books, which I didn't realize until I watched People 35 00:01:46,794 --> 00:01:49,474 Speaker 1: we Meet on Vacation, I thought I'd really enjoyed the 36 00:01:49,554 --> 00:01:53,314 Speaker 1: screen adaptation because what I've noticed from reading MN is 37 00:01:53,314 --> 00:01:57,394 Speaker 1: that it's different stories, like different stakes that all rom 38 00:01:57,434 --> 00:02:01,394 Speaker 1: com So it has to follow the rom com tradition, 39 00:02:01,434 --> 00:02:02,954 Speaker 1: which is it has to have a happy ending, like 40 00:02:02,994 --> 00:02:04,674 Speaker 1: all her books have to have a happy ending, otherwise 41 00:02:04,674 --> 00:02:08,154 Speaker 1: you're just basically like baiting people to write. And then 42 00:02:08,474 --> 00:02:10,994 Speaker 1: all of her characters are very like different versions of 43 00:02:11,034 --> 00:02:15,674 Speaker 1: the same person, right, Yeah, Like it's always like the ditsy, fun, happy, 44 00:02:15,714 --> 00:02:18,714 Speaker 1: go lucky girl with like the dark, brooding guy who 45 00:02:18,714 --> 00:02:20,594 Speaker 1: finds a really annoying in the beginning, but then he 46 00:02:20,714 --> 00:02:23,874 Speaker 1: respects her. Yeah, I love that formula. I know she is. 47 00:02:24,114 --> 00:02:27,194 Speaker 2: Emily Henry is one of the romance authors of the 48 00:02:27,234 --> 00:02:30,194 Speaker 2: moment of the last decade, so many books that people 49 00:02:30,194 --> 00:02:33,474 Speaker 2: are absolutely obsessed with that she's the best seller across. 50 00:02:33,114 --> 00:02:36,793 Speaker 1: Her books for a B Tree she even called be Tree. 51 00:02:37,034 --> 00:02:39,194 Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't read that one. So I've read Happy Place, 52 00:02:39,634 --> 00:02:41,994 Speaker 2: and I've read People with Me on Vacation, and I'm 53 00:02:41,994 --> 00:02:43,234 Speaker 2: in the middle of Book Lovers. 54 00:02:43,234 --> 00:02:44,754 Speaker 1: So that's why I think that's next on my last 55 00:02:44,754 --> 00:02:46,874 Speaker 1: book Lovers. Yes, everyone talks about that. It's so good 56 00:02:46,914 --> 00:02:47,234 Speaker 1: so far. 57 00:02:47,354 --> 00:02:50,114 Speaker 2: So this is the first adaptation of an Emily Henry work, 58 00:02:50,394 --> 00:02:53,234 Speaker 2: and so that's why the anticipation for this. 59 00:02:53,194 --> 00:02:55,674 Speaker 1: Movie was at an all time high, because all of 60 00:02:55,674 --> 00:02:57,114 Speaker 1: her books are going to be adapted. 61 00:02:57,314 --> 00:02:57,914 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 62 00:02:57,954 --> 00:03:01,114 Speaker 2: Well, that's a gold mine for streamers and studios because 63 00:03:01,114 --> 00:03:03,953 Speaker 2: they have this huge, huge fan base. But also there, 64 00:03:04,074 --> 00:03:06,554 Speaker 2: as you're saying, like, because it's a romcom, very palatable 65 00:03:06,594 --> 00:03:08,354 Speaker 2: to like people horr on Netflix looking for a. 66 00:03:08,274 --> 00:03:10,634 Speaker 1: Friday night watch. Yeah, the Booktop Girls. 67 00:03:10,754 --> 00:03:14,794 Speaker 2: They were just in a tiars about this release. So 68 00:03:14,994 --> 00:03:17,114 Speaker 2: if you haven't watched it, first of all, it's bad. 69 00:03:17,154 --> 00:03:19,794 Speaker 2: Joy still listen to this, but you know, watch it. 70 00:03:20,394 --> 00:03:22,194 Speaker 2: Maybe you're like, that's a romcom is not for me, 71 00:03:22,274 --> 00:03:23,793 Speaker 2: But I want to listen to you guys dissect it 72 00:03:23,794 --> 00:03:25,234 Speaker 2: in a funny way, and that's what you're about. That's 73 00:03:25,274 --> 00:03:27,314 Speaker 2: what you're about to hear, So actually do stick around. 74 00:03:27,674 --> 00:03:31,154 Speaker 2: So it stars Emily Beta as Poppy and Tom Blythe 75 00:03:31,154 --> 00:03:34,154 Speaker 2: as Alex. There are main people, so Emily Beta. 76 00:03:34,074 --> 00:03:36,354 Speaker 1: Two very attractive young people. 77 00:03:36,194 --> 00:03:38,274 Speaker 2: So attractive. So first of all, massive tick form me. 78 00:03:38,314 --> 00:03:39,434 Speaker 2: I love watching hot people. 79 00:03:39,994 --> 00:03:40,714 Speaker 1: Were dark hair. 80 00:03:41,234 --> 00:03:43,074 Speaker 3: Okay, so here's the thing. 81 00:03:43,194 --> 00:03:45,754 Speaker 2: The casting wasn't bad, and there was so much anticipation 82 00:03:45,874 --> 00:03:48,074 Speaker 2: for the casting of because it's all about as you're 83 00:03:48,074 --> 00:03:51,314 Speaker 2: saying about these characters, and so we know that Emily 84 00:03:51,434 --> 00:03:54,714 Speaker 2: Henry was really happy with them, she said previously in interviews. 85 00:03:54,714 --> 00:03:57,634 Speaker 2: From the moment she saw their screen test, she knew 86 00:03:57,674 --> 00:03:59,874 Speaker 2: that they should be Alex and Poppy. She said, their 87 00:03:59,914 --> 00:04:02,434 Speaker 2: chemistry was off the charts. And you know how like 88 00:04:02,474 --> 00:04:04,954 Speaker 2: writers and readers picture the characters in their head and 89 00:04:04,994 --> 00:04:08,474 Speaker 2: everyone has their picture. Even Emily Henry said that now 90 00:04:08,514 --> 00:04:11,354 Speaker 2: watching the movie, she now pictures the Poppy and Alenx 91 00:04:11,434 --> 00:04:12,994 Speaker 2: she had in her head when she wrote the book 92 00:04:12,994 --> 00:04:13,594 Speaker 2: as the actors. 93 00:04:13,874 --> 00:04:15,994 Speaker 1: That's when you know some well, so that's a. 94 00:04:15,994 --> 00:04:18,674 Speaker 2: Nice little I guess nod to them. So, yes, Emily 95 00:04:18,674 --> 00:04:21,113 Speaker 2: Beta is Poppy. So Poppy is very much the classic 96 00:04:21,354 --> 00:04:24,753 Speaker 2: manic pixie dream girl, that old school trope that I 97 00:04:24,794 --> 00:04:27,273 Speaker 2: do hate in movies made by men. It's that old 98 00:04:27,274 --> 00:04:30,474 Speaker 2: school trope of like a magical woman comes along and 99 00:04:30,553 --> 00:04:33,433 Speaker 2: like fixes a man's life through like her whimsy and 100 00:04:33,513 --> 00:04:35,993 Speaker 2: adventurous sense. But because we get to know Poppy as 101 00:04:36,034 --> 00:04:38,234 Speaker 2: a character, she doesn't fall into that trope as much. 102 00:04:38,393 --> 00:04:41,034 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I want to be honest, yeah and 103 00:04:41,154 --> 00:04:44,874 Speaker 1: say that the first meeting between Poppy and Alex, if 104 00:04:44,914 --> 00:04:47,354 Speaker 1: I didn't have to watch this movie for work, I 105 00:04:47,354 --> 00:04:49,993 Speaker 1: would have turned it off after the first scene. Really yeah, 106 00:04:50,113 --> 00:04:51,194 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god. 107 00:04:51,234 --> 00:04:53,833 Speaker 3: So many people have said that. Yes, so Emily Beta. 108 00:04:54,073 --> 00:04:55,794 Speaker 3: I actually thought she did a lot with this character. 109 00:04:55,834 --> 00:04:58,354 Speaker 2: And it's hard because I can see how Poppy would 110 00:04:58,354 --> 00:05:00,953 Speaker 2: come across as an unlikable character because she's so like 111 00:05:01,313 --> 00:05:04,873 Speaker 2: that kind of stereotype girl from these kind of movies. 112 00:05:05,274 --> 00:05:07,873 Speaker 2: So again, Emily Beta, great act dress. I guess a 113 00:05:07,873 --> 00:05:09,954 Speaker 2: lot of people would know her from My Lady Jane 114 00:05:09,993 --> 00:05:12,594 Speaker 2: that's on Amazon Prime. If anyone hasn't watched that goal 115 00:05:12,594 --> 00:05:14,753 Speaker 2: and watch and she's so good in it. And then 116 00:05:14,794 --> 00:05:16,833 Speaker 2: of course we know tom blythe from He's had a 117 00:05:16,834 --> 00:05:18,753 Speaker 2: lot of big roles, but I think everyone would know 118 00:05:18,834 --> 00:05:22,033 Speaker 2: him as Cornelia Snow from The Hunger Games The Ballad 119 00:05:22,034 --> 00:05:23,234 Speaker 2: of Songbirds and Snakes. 120 00:05:23,354 --> 00:05:25,073 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's quite scary in that. 121 00:05:25,313 --> 00:05:27,833 Speaker 2: Well here's the thing who When he was cast, I 122 00:05:27,873 --> 00:05:30,234 Speaker 2: was like, oh, really, the villain. I was like that guy. 123 00:05:30,794 --> 00:05:33,073 Speaker 3: And then in the movie I kind of did buy 124 00:05:33,154 --> 00:05:34,394 Speaker 3: him as Alex. 125 00:05:34,154 --> 00:05:36,233 Speaker 1: A lot of the time because Alex, it's the hair. 126 00:05:36,513 --> 00:05:39,073 Speaker 1: Oh really, you think because she's like bleach blonde in 127 00:05:39,154 --> 00:05:42,034 Speaker 1: Hunger Games, which is no offense to bleach bond people. 128 00:05:42,234 --> 00:05:44,674 Speaker 1: He just like you automatically knew he was a bad person. 129 00:05:45,034 --> 00:05:46,593 Speaker 2: Like you're like, that's a villain if I've ever seen 130 00:05:47,354 --> 00:05:49,633 Speaker 2: bleach bond people but you're all evil, But I'm like, 131 00:05:49,633 --> 00:05:51,354 Speaker 2: that's a villain. I'm sorry showing me a villain who's 132 00:05:51,354 --> 00:05:54,594 Speaker 2: not bleachbonde hair or you couldn't pull it off. 133 00:05:56,113 --> 00:05:57,953 Speaker 3: Right, It's like it's like a red flag, like that's 134 00:05:57,993 --> 00:05:58,753 Speaker 3: the villain. 135 00:05:58,513 --> 00:06:01,674 Speaker 1: Bag And then he died, understand I was like, oh, immediate, 136 00:06:01,753 --> 00:06:04,633 Speaker 1: cute boy, Well you don't think he's cute. 137 00:06:05,154 --> 00:06:06,594 Speaker 3: I do think he's cute. 138 00:06:06,594 --> 00:06:07,954 Speaker 1: Me just shame his looks here. 139 00:06:08,313 --> 00:06:09,354 Speaker 3: No, No, I do think it's cute. 140 00:06:09,354 --> 00:06:11,513 Speaker 2: I just I struggled to buy him as Alex throughout 141 00:06:11,553 --> 00:06:13,514 Speaker 2: the movie a little bit, just because obviously Alex is 142 00:06:13,553 --> 00:06:14,993 Speaker 2: meant to be really dark and brooding. 143 00:06:15,274 --> 00:06:17,953 Speaker 1: But also this is the issue when you read the book. 144 00:06:18,154 --> 00:06:20,154 Speaker 1: I know, yeah, I didn't have that. 145 00:06:20,234 --> 00:06:21,753 Speaker 2: The book, I gotta say right at the front before 146 00:06:21,753 --> 00:06:26,274 Speaker 2: we get into the book destroyed this movie, destroyed it. 147 00:06:26,513 --> 00:06:28,634 Speaker 2: I probably would have lacked it if not for that. 148 00:06:28,914 --> 00:06:31,033 Speaker 2: But also, watching Tom Blyth through this movie, I'm like, 149 00:06:31,034 --> 00:06:33,433 Speaker 2: it's so unfortunate for him. He has resting evil face. 150 00:06:34,034 --> 00:06:36,914 Speaker 2: Whenever he's not emoting a particular scene. He's just meant 151 00:06:36,914 --> 00:06:39,113 Speaker 2: to be kind of still, and a lot of people 152 00:06:39,274 --> 00:06:41,713 Speaker 2: would be like, look like, obviously some people have resting 153 00:06:41,753 --> 00:06:45,273 Speaker 2: board face and people have resting bitch face. Resting evil 154 00:06:45,274 --> 00:06:47,633 Speaker 2: face in a rom com is a hard thing to overcome. 155 00:06:48,274 --> 00:06:49,794 Speaker 2: So I'll just say that. So, yes, we have their 156 00:06:49,834 --> 00:06:51,833 Speaker 2: meet here to the car you didn't love I. 157 00:06:51,953 --> 00:06:54,234 Speaker 1: Know meet It was fine, it's the more the car 158 00:06:54,354 --> 00:06:59,273 Speaker 1: road trip to Ohio. Yeah, that I was like, so 159 00:06:59,433 --> 00:07:03,193 Speaker 1: pick me annoying, li sa, I know that's the hard thing. 160 00:07:03,433 --> 00:07:05,874 Speaker 1: A car with the guy you've just met, and now 161 00:07:05,873 --> 00:07:09,953 Speaker 1: you're purposely annoyed him. You're singing out loud, you're pressing 162 00:07:09,994 --> 00:07:14,593 Speaker 1: weird buttons, you're like to do, You're like liking everything, 163 00:07:15,314 --> 00:07:18,393 Speaker 1: he's hating everything. You lock the keys in the car. 164 00:07:18,874 --> 00:07:22,114 Speaker 1: You see like it's some old, like funky wishing well, 165 00:07:22,594 --> 00:07:24,874 Speaker 1: and you walk up to it to make a wish. 166 00:07:24,914 --> 00:07:26,554 Speaker 3: Who amongst us hasn't okay. 167 00:07:26,434 --> 00:07:30,554 Speaker 1: Okay, but that wishing well, if you looked closely, it 168 00:07:30,594 --> 00:07:33,554 Speaker 1: was actually being used because it had that like grated 169 00:07:33,594 --> 00:07:34,233 Speaker 1: thing on top. 170 00:07:34,634 --> 00:07:35,793 Speaker 3: Is that what means a well. 171 00:07:35,714 --> 00:07:36,713 Speaker 1: Is being used? Well? 172 00:07:36,754 --> 00:07:41,354 Speaker 2: Yeah, so would you possibly know that because they put. 173 00:07:39,953 --> 00:07:43,314 Speaker 1: On top so nothing falls in, and she goes and 174 00:07:43,314 --> 00:07:46,833 Speaker 1: puts a coin in it? Are you telling that the 175 00:07:46,874 --> 00:07:48,274 Speaker 1: towns people have no water? 176 00:07:48,554 --> 00:07:50,234 Speaker 2: Are you telling me that she poisoned a town for 177 00:07:50,953 --> 00:07:53,473 Speaker 2: poison in the town because money is like the dirtiest 178 00:07:53,474 --> 00:07:53,914 Speaker 2: thing in the world. 179 00:07:54,674 --> 00:07:58,194 Speaker 1: I hope she got that fucking wish. Okay, Yeah, I 180 00:07:58,314 --> 00:07:59,034 Speaker 1: not thought that. 181 00:07:59,634 --> 00:08:02,554 Speaker 3: Okay, I have the get go. I was mad. 182 00:08:02,634 --> 00:08:04,153 Speaker 2: You're like, well, that woman was just killed. A bunch 183 00:08:04,194 --> 00:08:05,994 Speaker 2: of people can't even see her. 184 00:08:05,953 --> 00:08:08,034 Speaker 1: Like wishing wells. If it so an actual wishing well, 185 00:08:08,114 --> 00:08:10,434 Speaker 1: you turn around and you just throw it in because 186 00:08:10,474 --> 00:08:13,154 Speaker 1: it's open. She like had to move the grating the 187 00:08:13,154 --> 00:08:14,954 Speaker 1: stuff and like push it through a little hole. 188 00:08:14,994 --> 00:08:15,914 Speaker 3: Also a red flag. 189 00:08:15,953 --> 00:08:17,154 Speaker 2: I guess if you look into a well and there's 190 00:08:17,194 --> 00:08:19,354 Speaker 2: no other coins in there, not being used as a 191 00:08:19,354 --> 00:08:20,434 Speaker 2: functioning wishing. 192 00:08:20,114 --> 00:08:22,234 Speaker 1: Well, lee wells alone, I say, yeah. 193 00:08:22,034 --> 00:08:23,514 Speaker 3: And that's the story of this movie that no one's 194 00:08:23,554 --> 00:08:25,674 Speaker 3: talking about. Well safety know it. 195 00:08:25,914 --> 00:08:28,154 Speaker 1: I haven't seen this in any other rooms like that 196 00:08:28,234 --> 00:08:28,713 Speaker 1: right now. 197 00:08:28,634 --> 00:08:33,154 Speaker 2: No one everyone's scared to talk about. I was gonna 198 00:08:33,154 --> 00:08:34,874 Speaker 2: say I didn't like the intro because I hadn't picked 199 00:08:34,953 --> 00:08:38,794 Speaker 2: up on the well drama, just because again, I know 200 00:08:39,074 --> 00:08:40,994 Speaker 2: you have to hold the book and the movie to 201 00:08:41,314 --> 00:08:44,634 Speaker 2: different standards. Yeah, but my issue with yeah, they're set 202 00:08:44,674 --> 00:08:46,274 Speaker 2: up for their characters and they're meet cute is that 203 00:08:46,434 --> 00:08:48,834 Speaker 2: in the first few scenes neither of them come. 204 00:08:48,714 --> 00:08:50,314 Speaker 3: Across like overly likable. 205 00:08:50,514 --> 00:08:52,834 Speaker 2: And again, Poppy is like written in the movie at 206 00:08:52,874 --> 00:08:55,514 Speaker 2: the beginning as like such a caricature, Like you're saying, 207 00:08:55,994 --> 00:08:57,674 Speaker 2: it's really hard to kind of get on her side 208 00:08:57,714 --> 00:09:00,154 Speaker 2: when she's being like it's almost like it's like it's 209 00:09:00,194 --> 00:09:02,554 Speaker 2: a TikTok skit of like a crazy woman and like 210 00:09:02,554 --> 00:09:02,794 Speaker 2: a thing. 211 00:09:03,554 --> 00:09:05,914 Speaker 1: No, you're so right, it's like a TikTok skit, which, 212 00:09:06,034 --> 00:09:08,354 Speaker 1: like Poppy and a wasn't surprising to me because that's 213 00:09:08,354 --> 00:09:11,554 Speaker 1: how all of em Hen's women characters are written. But 214 00:09:11,594 --> 00:09:14,354 Speaker 1: it's so different reading about them. Well, I think that's 215 00:09:14,434 --> 00:09:15,194 Speaker 1: just watching it. 216 00:09:15,394 --> 00:09:17,114 Speaker 2: This is the hard thing with bringing a book to 217 00:09:17,194 --> 00:09:20,834 Speaker 2: screen is that in the book we have Poppies internal thoughts. 218 00:09:22,194 --> 00:09:24,714 Speaker 2: We can see her. If she's being chaotic, like what's 219 00:09:24,714 --> 00:09:27,114 Speaker 2: the story behind it? If she's acting really brave, you 220 00:09:27,114 --> 00:09:29,354 Speaker 2: can see she's hurt behind the scenes. If she's being crazy, 221 00:09:29,394 --> 00:09:31,034 Speaker 2: you can tell that she's filled with this joy. So 222 00:09:31,114 --> 00:09:33,034 Speaker 2: she comes across. She probably is my I don't know. 223 00:09:33,034 --> 00:09:34,114 Speaker 2: I've only read a few of her books. 224 00:09:34,154 --> 00:09:37,674 Speaker 3: My favorite Emily Henry heroine because I just love being 225 00:09:37,674 --> 00:09:39,274 Speaker 3: in her head and I felt I found her really 226 00:09:39,394 --> 00:09:41,434 Speaker 3: complicated and like also just really fun. 227 00:09:41,634 --> 00:09:43,234 Speaker 1: Yeah, something that Harriet from the Good. 228 00:09:43,114 --> 00:09:45,794 Speaker 3: Place could learn some stuff from Happy Place, could learn 229 00:09:45,834 --> 00:09:47,154 Speaker 3: some stuff about im, like girl. 230 00:09:47,034 --> 00:09:49,154 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Harriet from Happy Place, Oh my god. 231 00:09:49,834 --> 00:09:51,354 Speaker 2: I don't know what actually is going to play that role, 232 00:09:51,354 --> 00:09:55,634 Speaker 2: but good luck, good luck, good luck being likable on screen, 233 00:09:55,914 --> 00:09:58,514 Speaker 2: because I could barely like you in the book anyway. 234 00:10:01,314 --> 00:10:03,594 Speaker 2: I just also thinking, yesterday you said believe men, and 235 00:10:03,634 --> 00:10:04,794 Speaker 2: today we're really trashing women. 236 00:10:04,914 --> 00:10:06,914 Speaker 3: So we're not coming. 237 00:10:07,114 --> 00:10:08,754 Speaker 1: I'm not having a good way love all women. 238 00:10:08,834 --> 00:10:10,714 Speaker 2: Here's the thing I think with bringing Cross a story 239 00:10:10,714 --> 00:10:12,914 Speaker 2: from a book to a movie is that I know 240 00:10:12,994 --> 00:10:16,594 Speaker 2: you can't have the entire book in the movie. Yeah, 241 00:10:16,634 --> 00:10:18,354 Speaker 2: that would be a three hour movie, and that's crazy, 242 00:10:18,394 --> 00:10:20,314 Speaker 2: So you have to make cuts. I don't know if 243 00:10:20,314 --> 00:10:22,834 Speaker 2: cutting how they met, the real way they met and 244 00:10:22,834 --> 00:10:24,794 Speaker 2: their meet cute was the way to go, because it 245 00:10:24,834 --> 00:10:27,154 Speaker 2: is such a fundamental part of the story. Because in 246 00:10:27,194 --> 00:10:29,514 Speaker 2: the book, they meet on the first day of college 247 00:10:30,074 --> 00:10:31,914 Speaker 2: and they have like a little back and forth and 248 00:10:31,994 --> 00:10:34,274 Speaker 2: realize they're from the same town, and then they don't 249 00:10:34,274 --> 00:10:36,034 Speaker 2: speak again for the rest of the year. And so 250 00:10:36,154 --> 00:10:38,634 Speaker 2: when she turns up to get the ride home, she's like, Oh, 251 00:10:38,674 --> 00:10:40,794 Speaker 2: it's cranky guy from the party that I met here 252 00:10:40,834 --> 00:10:43,394 Speaker 2: on my first day. And then you kind of get 253 00:10:43,394 --> 00:10:45,914 Speaker 2: more into their conversation on the way there of what 254 00:10:45,954 --> 00:10:47,714 Speaker 2: they like, what they don't like. I don't think she 255 00:10:47,754 --> 00:10:50,554 Speaker 2: spills a burrito unless I blocked that out the burrito. 256 00:10:51,554 --> 00:10:53,514 Speaker 2: It's more like they have a real conversation and you 257 00:10:53,634 --> 00:10:55,914 Speaker 2: learn so much about and it's such an interesting, like 258 00:10:56,314 --> 00:10:59,194 Speaker 2: writing technique to learn so much because we as the 259 00:10:59,234 --> 00:11:01,234 Speaker 2: reader are learning all this stuff about them as they're 260 00:11:01,314 --> 00:11:04,314 Speaker 2: learning it about themselves and each other, and it really 261 00:11:04,314 --> 00:11:06,274 Speaker 2: sets the scene for them becoming friends. 262 00:11:06,594 --> 00:11:08,514 Speaker 1: And they don't stop it. Well, you'll be happy to 263 00:11:08,594 --> 00:11:09,474 Speaker 1: know they. 264 00:11:09,314 --> 00:11:13,794 Speaker 2: Don't get Yeah, they don't let the keys in the car, 265 00:11:14,074 --> 00:11:16,674 Speaker 2: and they don't spend the night, which. 266 00:11:16,474 --> 00:11:18,314 Speaker 1: I thought that's a lot of because obviously the. 267 00:11:18,194 --> 00:11:19,874 Speaker 2: Car trope is a bit of an homage to the 268 00:11:19,914 --> 00:11:22,874 Speaker 2: beginning of When Harry met Sally, which is the classic 269 00:11:23,434 --> 00:11:26,314 Speaker 2: friends to lover's story, like the original friends love story, 270 00:11:26,314 --> 00:11:27,954 Speaker 2: and this is a friends to love his story. So 271 00:11:28,034 --> 00:11:30,674 Speaker 2: I kind of liked the car ride from college to 272 00:11:30,754 --> 00:11:33,314 Speaker 2: a city as being like a beautiful kind of like 273 00:11:33,634 --> 00:11:36,194 Speaker 2: nod to that works in the book. But then in 274 00:11:36,234 --> 00:11:38,074 Speaker 2: the book it just, yeah, they don't have that other 275 00:11:38,114 --> 00:11:39,634 Speaker 2: It's like they tried to put too many rom com 276 00:11:39,714 --> 00:11:42,594 Speaker 2: tropes in, because getting stuck somewhere over a night classic 277 00:11:44,714 --> 00:11:47,114 Speaker 2: and having to share the same bed another classic rom 278 00:11:47,154 --> 00:11:49,874 Speaker 2: com trope, when used correctly, is done towards the end 279 00:11:49,914 --> 00:11:52,194 Speaker 2: of the book when two lovers have to sleep together, 280 00:11:52,274 --> 00:11:53,914 Speaker 2: not on the first night where it's just weird, and 281 00:11:53,914 --> 00:11:55,434 Speaker 2: then he sleeps on the floor anyway. 282 00:11:55,194 --> 00:11:57,394 Speaker 1: And then she was like nagging him about his girlfriend. 283 00:11:57,794 --> 00:11:59,953 Speaker 1: I'm like, you've just met this man, and she's like, 284 00:11:59,994 --> 00:12:01,954 Speaker 1: tell me about your girlfriend. And he's like, oh, like 285 00:12:02,074 --> 00:12:04,874 Speaker 1: we grew up together, families love each other. Yeah, and 286 00:12:04,914 --> 00:12:06,994 Speaker 1: she's like, oh, great girl to bring home to mom. 287 00:12:07,434 --> 00:12:08,394 Speaker 1: But his mom died. 288 00:12:08,634 --> 00:12:10,194 Speaker 3: Well obviously she didn't know that. 289 00:12:10,314 --> 00:12:11,874 Speaker 1: Yeah, but like, why would you even say that. 290 00:12:11,954 --> 00:12:14,234 Speaker 3: Again, that's why they had that lost him and then 291 00:12:14,234 --> 00:12:15,554 Speaker 3: you applied and you're like, wait now. 292 00:12:15,474 --> 00:12:17,474 Speaker 2: Well again, that's why they had that lovely conversation in 293 00:12:17,474 --> 00:12:19,194 Speaker 2: the car where she learns all about because in the 294 00:12:19,194 --> 00:12:21,914 Speaker 2: book he's got quite a few brothers and the story 295 00:12:21,914 --> 00:12:23,794 Speaker 2: of his mother dying and everything, so that's like a 296 00:12:23,834 --> 00:12:26,114 Speaker 2: really big plot point. And then she's got two brothers 297 00:12:26,354 --> 00:12:28,274 Speaker 2: and her family and stuff. And I guess, again, you 298 00:12:28,274 --> 00:12:29,674 Speaker 2: can just learn so much. 299 00:12:29,514 --> 00:12:32,394 Speaker 3: More from a book, So I don't have that. I know, 300 00:12:32,594 --> 00:12:35,634 Speaker 3: you were just flying blind and still. 301 00:12:35,394 --> 00:12:38,833 Speaker 1: Thinking about the well during that scene came down to people, you. 302 00:12:38,834 --> 00:12:40,714 Speaker 3: Do have to let that, know, let that go. 303 00:12:41,554 --> 00:12:43,714 Speaker 2: So then we have quite a few time jumps back 304 00:12:43,754 --> 00:12:46,154 Speaker 2: and forth where it's so beautiful that we kind of 305 00:12:46,234 --> 00:12:49,154 Speaker 2: do learn that Alex and Poppy have, against all odds 306 00:12:49,314 --> 00:12:51,314 Speaker 2: and against the fact they have no chemistry at the start, 307 00:12:51,394 --> 00:12:52,394 Speaker 2: have become good friends. 308 00:12:52,594 --> 00:12:56,233 Speaker 1: Okay, what do you think of Emily and Tom's chemistry 309 00:12:56,354 --> 00:12:56,914 Speaker 1: on screen? 310 00:12:57,034 --> 00:12:57,194 Speaker 3: Oh? 311 00:12:57,954 --> 00:13:01,154 Speaker 1: Suck, I don't buy It's such a loaded question. I 312 00:13:01,234 --> 00:13:02,514 Speaker 1: just don't buy it. 313 00:13:02,714 --> 00:13:04,674 Speaker 2: I don't think they had that much on screen chemistry. 314 00:13:04,714 --> 00:13:05,874 Speaker 2: But you know why it hurts me to say that, 315 00:13:05,914 --> 00:13:08,354 Speaker 2: because they have so much chemistry off screen them on 316 00:13:08,394 --> 00:13:11,034 Speaker 2: their press tour. Give me six hours of that. They're 317 00:13:11,274 --> 00:13:13,594 Speaker 2: so cute together. Yeah, they bounce off each other. 318 00:13:13,914 --> 00:13:16,114 Speaker 1: I think. No, I don't think he had amazing chemistry 319 00:13:16,114 --> 00:13:19,354 Speaker 1: with like Rachel Zegler in in Hunger Games, like that 320 00:13:19,514 --> 00:13:23,194 Speaker 1: was not even exactly and so I knew he could 321 00:13:23,194 --> 00:13:25,874 Speaker 1: do it. And I've seen her have chemistry with her 322 00:13:25,914 --> 00:13:28,274 Speaker 1: on screen lovers. Yeah, So I'm like, it just felt 323 00:13:28,314 --> 00:13:30,314 Speaker 1: like it just didn't work in the scenario. 324 00:13:30,474 --> 00:13:32,234 Speaker 2: I just think I don't know if that was them. 325 00:13:32,394 --> 00:13:34,354 Speaker 2: I just think maybe the way it was written and 326 00:13:34,394 --> 00:13:37,394 Speaker 2: the opportunities they had to showcase it didn't come across 327 00:13:37,434 --> 00:13:38,034 Speaker 2: as much. 328 00:13:38,154 --> 00:13:41,194 Speaker 1: I also feel like with the respective works they've done 329 00:13:41,234 --> 00:13:44,274 Speaker 1: as individuals, like they started off in like roles that 330 00:13:44,434 --> 00:13:47,554 Speaker 1: like have were very deep, like very deep roles, and 331 00:13:47,594 --> 00:13:50,034 Speaker 1: it's almost like doing the opposite of what other people do, 332 00:13:50,074 --> 00:13:53,154 Speaker 1: where they go from deep to light. And I think 333 00:13:53,194 --> 00:13:55,954 Speaker 1: maybe that was like the thing that was a pain 334 00:13:55,994 --> 00:13:58,794 Speaker 1: point for them because I both brilliant actors, like I 335 00:13:58,834 --> 00:14:00,914 Speaker 1: found it annoying that I wasn't getting on board with. 336 00:14:00,874 --> 00:14:04,154 Speaker 2: It because all I wanted from this movie was chemistry, because, 337 00:14:04,154 --> 00:14:06,274 Speaker 2: as you said before, with an Emily Henry book, or 338 00:14:06,354 --> 00:14:09,954 Speaker 2: indeed any rom com, whether it's a TV show, a movie, 339 00:14:10,034 --> 00:14:11,834 Speaker 2: or a book, we all go into it with one 340 00:14:11,834 --> 00:14:14,114 Speaker 2: piece of information. These people are getting together. Yeah, so 341 00:14:14,234 --> 00:14:16,874 Speaker 2: already stakes are gone, we know the ending. So then 342 00:14:16,914 --> 00:14:19,074 Speaker 2: the only thing you care about is do I believe 343 00:14:19,074 --> 00:14:21,474 Speaker 2: these people are in love? And am I going to 344 00:14:21,634 --> 00:14:25,954 Speaker 2: enjoy watching it happen? And I just don't know if 345 00:14:25,994 --> 00:14:26,794 Speaker 2: they were in love? 346 00:14:27,154 --> 00:14:28,874 Speaker 1: I don't know. I was waiting the whole I'm not 347 00:14:28,914 --> 00:14:30,594 Speaker 1: even joking the whole movie. I was just waiting for 348 00:14:30,714 --> 00:14:31,914 Speaker 1: Alfie from Emily in Paris. 349 00:14:32,994 --> 00:14:34,754 Speaker 2: Okay, Look, I mean, look, they do have some moments 350 00:14:34,794 --> 00:14:36,194 Speaker 2: of chemistry. So as we'll get through. 351 00:14:36,194 --> 00:14:39,394 Speaker 1: So I do want to say, like, the visuals of 352 00:14:39,434 --> 00:14:40,954 Speaker 1: this movie are beautiful. 353 00:14:41,114 --> 00:14:42,914 Speaker 2: Well that's what I was happy about, because I do 354 00:14:42,954 --> 00:14:45,394 Speaker 2: hate people like, oh I love a trashy Netflix movie, 355 00:14:45,474 --> 00:14:47,034 Speaker 2: and I was like, I'm sorry, I cannot watch a 356 00:14:47,034 --> 00:14:48,874 Speaker 2: trashy movie that looks like it was filmed on a 357 00:14:48,954 --> 00:14:52,114 Speaker 2: sound stage with someone pulling a different backdrop on, like 358 00:14:52,154 --> 00:14:54,474 Speaker 2: a wire in the background. Yeah, like again, not that 359 00:14:54,474 --> 00:14:55,074 Speaker 2: you need great. 360 00:14:55,914 --> 00:14:58,314 Speaker 1: Difference, and I didn't. We haven't talked about this on 361 00:14:58,354 --> 00:15:01,594 Speaker 1: the pod because I think I was all. But what 362 00:15:01,754 --> 00:15:04,234 Speaker 1: I didn't really like about the last few seasons of 363 00:15:04,234 --> 00:15:06,234 Speaker 1: Stranger Things was that so many of the scenes were 364 00:15:06,274 --> 00:15:09,154 Speaker 1: so obviously on a st stage. Yeah, compared to season one, 365 00:15:09,194 --> 00:15:11,114 Speaker 1: when they got this massive budget and it was so 366 00:15:11,234 --> 00:15:14,514 Speaker 1: beautifully shot. I didn't realize until I watched Strange Things 367 00:15:14,554 --> 00:15:18,274 Speaker 1: like that actually really impacts my viewing experience. So watching 368 00:15:18,474 --> 00:15:21,234 Speaker 1: this movie and like seeing all the like sets in 369 00:15:21,274 --> 00:15:24,634 Speaker 1: the different countries and the colors and like the costumes, 370 00:15:25,114 --> 00:15:27,074 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I was obsessed with that aspect. Oh 371 00:15:27,154 --> 00:15:27,434 Speaker 1: I love that. 372 00:15:27,514 --> 00:15:28,594 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that as well. 373 00:15:28,634 --> 00:15:31,794 Speaker 2: I thought it looked really lush and beautiful in a way, 374 00:15:31,874 --> 00:15:34,074 Speaker 2: knowing they were actually at these places. 375 00:15:33,674 --> 00:15:35,554 Speaker 3: And the campig Oh my god, I loved it. 376 00:15:35,634 --> 00:15:37,354 Speaker 2: And also just yeah, they're like the shots of New 377 00:15:37,434 --> 00:15:40,474 Speaker 2: York and Poppy's wardrobe and the filming in Tuscany, and 378 00:15:40,554 --> 00:15:43,314 Speaker 2: again that is what makes this such incredible because again, 379 00:15:43,314 --> 00:15:44,914 Speaker 2: if you're one of those people who hasn't watched it 380 00:15:44,914 --> 00:15:45,234 Speaker 2: and you're. 381 00:15:45,154 --> 00:15:47,474 Speaker 1: Here, please do watch it. Yeah, just watch it for 382 00:15:47,514 --> 00:15:47,954 Speaker 1: the sides. 383 00:15:48,074 --> 00:15:51,034 Speaker 2: It's kind of almost like this beautiful escapism is what 384 00:15:51,074 --> 00:15:53,754 Speaker 2: I'm looking for sometimes in a rom com is to 385 00:15:54,274 --> 00:15:56,194 Speaker 2: kind of live in this lush fantasy world. 386 00:15:56,274 --> 00:15:57,634 Speaker 1: And you do get that a little bit. 387 00:15:58,074 --> 00:16:00,434 Speaker 2: And so she because Poppy is such the quintessential rom 388 00:16:00,474 --> 00:16:02,954 Speaker 2: com girl, like she's a writer living in New York 389 00:16:03,234 --> 00:16:07,114 Speaker 2: with her own writers. I love out our job, even 390 00:16:07,194 --> 00:16:09,394 Speaker 2: now with all the slugs wanting to be a podcaster. 391 00:16:09,514 --> 00:16:11,514 Speaker 2: I do love how our job's are always like the 392 00:16:11,634 --> 00:16:13,914 Speaker 2: dream scenario and then we like stomped in here today, 393 00:16:13,994 --> 00:16:16,274 Speaker 2: be like we're so busy and time not that clam 394 00:16:16,834 --> 00:16:17,794 Speaker 2: it's not noon. 395 00:16:17,874 --> 00:16:19,714 Speaker 1: Sometimes it is, I mean sometimes it is. But even 396 00:16:19,794 --> 00:16:23,634 Speaker 1: like travel writers, I didn't see her spile a single piece, No, 397 00:16:23,754 --> 00:16:25,634 Speaker 1: I know, but I okay on that though. 398 00:16:25,754 --> 00:16:28,834 Speaker 2: I do hate when people pull that on these kind 399 00:16:28,874 --> 00:16:31,474 Speaker 2: of shows of like, why don't we see them sitting 400 00:16:31,514 --> 00:16:33,154 Speaker 2: at their chairs doing this? Why don't we see that? 401 00:16:33,274 --> 00:16:35,434 Speaker 2: It's because that's not good TV or film, but it's 402 00:16:35,474 --> 00:16:37,794 Speaker 2: good for me. You can't, like watch an episode of 403 00:16:37,794 --> 00:16:40,394 Speaker 2: the bowl type and watch an actual day in their lives. 404 00:16:40,434 --> 00:16:42,274 Speaker 2: People like, that's not how magazines run. I mean yeah, 405 00:16:42,274 --> 00:16:44,234 Speaker 2: because otherwise the camera will just be on Jaye for 406 00:16:44,314 --> 00:16:45,794 Speaker 2: five hours while she writes an article. 407 00:16:46,074 --> 00:16:48,794 Speaker 1: That's not good TV. Okay, but they the bowl types 408 00:16:48,834 --> 00:16:51,314 Speaker 1: are whole different story. That girl was given a week 409 00:16:51,394 --> 00:16:52,234 Speaker 1: to write one article. 410 00:16:53,194 --> 00:16:55,874 Speaker 2: Yeah that's unheard of now. But yeah, again, you're not 411 00:16:55,914 --> 00:16:58,194 Speaker 2: supposed to see Poppy at her office job. You're supposed 412 00:16:58,194 --> 00:16:59,434 Speaker 2: to see her going off and all these times. 413 00:16:59,434 --> 00:17:01,194 Speaker 1: I want to share her office job because my favorite 414 00:17:01,234 --> 00:17:03,394 Speaker 1: character in the whole movie was Jamila Jamil. Yeah. I 415 00:17:03,434 --> 00:17:04,634 Speaker 1: did love Jamila Jimil in this. 416 00:17:04,754 --> 00:17:06,674 Speaker 2: She's having such a good run because she also did 417 00:17:06,714 --> 00:17:09,354 Speaker 2: that NETFLI Christmas movie with all of the Hudson and 418 00:17:09,394 --> 00:17:10,833 Speaker 2: Alicia Silverstone and she's. 419 00:17:10,874 --> 00:17:13,354 Speaker 1: Great in that, and she was in She Hulk, Yes, 420 00:17:13,554 --> 00:17:16,634 Speaker 1: and she's great in that, and I loved her in 421 00:17:16,674 --> 00:17:16,954 Speaker 1: this too. 422 00:17:17,074 --> 00:17:19,194 Speaker 2: Would I want to spin off for her character because 423 00:17:19,194 --> 00:17:21,994 Speaker 2: I'm like, this woman is first of all glamorous and 424 00:17:22,074 --> 00:17:24,514 Speaker 2: amazing but also super interesting and I would just want 425 00:17:24,514 --> 00:17:25,594 Speaker 2: to go watch just spin off about her. 426 00:17:25,834 --> 00:17:28,474 Speaker 1: Yeah, she is a very very cool character. But no, 427 00:17:28,634 --> 00:17:30,234 Speaker 1: I think you're right about the whole writing thing. That 428 00:17:30,234 --> 00:17:33,914 Speaker 1: would be I guess boring for some for me to watch. 429 00:17:33,994 --> 00:17:36,754 Speaker 1: But it's like what I liked about like her role 430 00:17:36,914 --> 00:17:39,674 Speaker 1: was she made out to make her job like so 431 00:17:39,674 --> 00:17:42,314 Speaker 1: so important because she had to travel to all of 432 00:17:42,394 --> 00:17:45,794 Speaker 1: these places for work and like write about them and 433 00:17:45,874 --> 00:17:48,674 Speaker 1: like take photos of them. And then you also see 434 00:17:48,754 --> 00:17:51,834 Speaker 1: her kind of like change her mind into realizing that 435 00:17:51,914 --> 00:17:55,314 Speaker 1: her work has now become her lifestyle. And she was 436 00:17:55,394 --> 00:17:57,434 Speaker 1: like in this frame of mind throughout the whole movie 437 00:17:57,434 --> 00:17:59,114 Speaker 1: where she just assumed she was going to be doing 438 00:17:59,154 --> 00:18:01,273 Speaker 1: this for the rest of her life. And I think 439 00:18:01,314 --> 00:18:05,834 Speaker 1: the sticking point was like she didn't really have a home. Yeah, 440 00:18:06,234 --> 00:18:08,354 Speaker 1: And I thought that was really really interesting because I 441 00:18:08,394 --> 00:18:10,514 Speaker 1: feel like when we do when we watch these kind 442 00:18:10,514 --> 00:18:14,034 Speaker 1: of rom coms with like journalists, because it's always a journalist. 443 00:18:13,714 --> 00:18:16,114 Speaker 2: I know, and they always want to throw their life away. 444 00:18:16,234 --> 00:18:19,834 Speaker 2: So if rom coms have glamorized journalism and media, but 445 00:18:19,954 --> 00:18:21,954 Speaker 2: they also do make you think it's an awful thing 446 00:18:22,034 --> 00:18:24,674 Speaker 2: that you have to escape. Just think Andy Anderson Halle's 447 00:18:24,674 --> 00:18:26,514 Speaker 2: a guy in ten Days walks away from her job. 448 00:18:26,514 --> 00:18:28,034 Speaker 2: I can't do this anymore. I just want to write 449 00:18:28,074 --> 00:18:31,234 Speaker 2: what I want to write, leaves Andy Saxon Devil Wears Prada. 450 00:18:31,434 --> 00:18:33,474 Speaker 1: Publishing is not for me. It's the devil. I can't 451 00:18:33,554 --> 00:18:33,754 Speaker 1: do this. 452 00:18:33,954 --> 00:18:36,874 Speaker 2: Storing my phone in a fountain walk away. Jennifer Ghanna 453 00:18:37,114 --> 00:18:40,513 Speaker 2: in Suddenly thirty very much like yeah, Like I just 454 00:18:40,554 --> 00:18:42,634 Speaker 2: want to like be at home with Mark Ruffalo and 455 00:18:42,754 --> 00:18:43,914 Speaker 2: like live in the suburbs, and like. 456 00:18:44,034 --> 00:18:46,154 Speaker 1: Magnets, did you do that amazing shoot for the Yeah, 457 00:18:46,674 --> 00:18:49,074 Speaker 1: it wasn't amazing. It's not getting sued. That was embarrassing, 458 00:18:50,154 --> 00:18:50,314 Speaker 1: you know. 459 00:18:50,434 --> 00:18:53,194 Speaker 2: Like again, media evil, Like all these movies tell us 460 00:18:53,234 --> 00:18:56,234 Speaker 2: that the turning point for your whole life to fall 461 00:18:56,314 --> 00:18:58,634 Speaker 2: in love, find yourself, be happy is walking away from 462 00:18:58,674 --> 00:18:59,314 Speaker 2: your media job. 463 00:18:59,474 --> 00:19:00,994 Speaker 3: And I don't know what to take from that except 464 00:19:01,234 --> 00:19:01,714 Speaker 3: maybe we have. 465 00:19:01,794 --> 00:19:05,634 Speaker 1: To start out. So this is resignation Sorr. 466 00:19:05,714 --> 00:19:06,834 Speaker 3: Yeah to everyone, mum me asked. 467 00:19:07,114 --> 00:19:09,394 Speaker 1: So we can't be in a relationship until we believe. 468 00:19:09,314 --> 00:19:10,394 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is our last. 469 00:19:11,874 --> 00:19:13,273 Speaker 2: I walk into it and throw my phone in a 470 00:19:13,314 --> 00:19:15,273 Speaker 2: fountain and then walk back in ten minutes later being like, no, 471 00:19:15,394 --> 00:19:16,154 Speaker 2: I need to get paid. 472 00:19:16,634 --> 00:19:18,554 Speaker 1: And then I think with the whole job thing, like, 473 00:19:18,674 --> 00:19:21,754 Speaker 1: it wasn't that big of a I don't know, like 474 00:19:21,834 --> 00:19:23,114 Speaker 1: it was a big deal, but it wasn't like a 475 00:19:23,194 --> 00:19:25,634 Speaker 1: pain point that it's always been historically. 476 00:19:25,954 --> 00:19:27,994 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean again, it wasn't the book a little bit. 477 00:19:28,034 --> 00:19:30,874 Speaker 2: But I think the poppy storyline in the movie as much. 478 00:19:30,914 --> 00:19:32,354 Speaker 2: I'm gonna try not keep saying in the book because 479 00:19:32,394 --> 00:19:33,793 Speaker 2: I know that's frustrating people who like, we haven't read 480 00:19:33,834 --> 00:19:34,434 Speaker 2: the book, but. 481 00:19:34,714 --> 00:19:38,394 Speaker 1: There would be so like majority of their viewerships. That's 482 00:19:38,394 --> 00:19:40,594 Speaker 1: why it became like number one in Australia straight up 483 00:19:40,634 --> 00:19:43,114 Speaker 1: because so many people were waiting for this because so 484 00:19:43,234 --> 00:19:45,354 Speaker 1: many people have read that book. Yeah exactly, So like 485 00:19:45,514 --> 00:19:48,594 Speaker 1: they had to make a movie knowing that like majority 486 00:19:48,594 --> 00:19:50,194 Speaker 1: of the viewerships and people who would. 487 00:19:50,114 --> 00:19:51,194 Speaker 3: Love this movie what it was. 488 00:19:51,394 --> 00:19:52,793 Speaker 1: Yeah, I already knew everything else. 489 00:19:52,834 --> 00:19:54,314 Speaker 2: But I do think it is a pain point for 490 00:19:54,354 --> 00:19:57,273 Speaker 2: her in the series because it's just everything's accelerated, so 491 00:19:57,434 --> 00:20:00,674 Speaker 2: it's her decision of it. It's accelerated to decide that 492 00:20:01,114 --> 00:20:02,914 Speaker 2: she wants to build a life for her hot health, 493 00:20:02,994 --> 00:20:04,954 Speaker 2: She wants to have a home. She wants holidays to 494 00:20:04,994 --> 00:20:07,513 Speaker 2: be like a break from a life that she loves, 495 00:20:07,914 --> 00:20:09,954 Speaker 2: not for holidays to be her whole life to return 496 00:20:10,034 --> 00:20:10,634 Speaker 2: to a life. 497 00:20:10,474 --> 00:20:13,474 Speaker 3: That she doesn't love. Which I don't know if I loved. 498 00:20:13,314 --> 00:20:15,313 Speaker 2: That messaging of like if you're single and work, then 499 00:20:15,354 --> 00:20:17,394 Speaker 2: you come home to like an empty apartment with no 500 00:20:17,514 --> 00:20:19,434 Speaker 2: food in the fridge. It was again that very classic 501 00:20:19,834 --> 00:20:22,714 Speaker 2: from Coom trope of like the girl's life is empty 502 00:20:22,754 --> 00:20:25,114 Speaker 2: and if you live alone, like you don't cook, you 503 00:20:25,194 --> 00:20:26,794 Speaker 2: don't eat, you don't have furniture. 504 00:20:27,274 --> 00:20:28,874 Speaker 1: And I just don't know what single women are living 505 00:20:28,954 --> 00:20:31,074 Speaker 1: like that because we both live alone. I don't know 506 00:20:31,074 --> 00:20:32,714 Speaker 1: what your fridge is like. It might actually thank you, 507 00:20:32,834 --> 00:20:38,034 Speaker 1: do you know? Okay? Okay, Poppy Nan. What I love 508 00:20:38,154 --> 00:20:41,314 Speaker 1: though the interest scene of her when you do see 509 00:20:41,394 --> 00:20:44,674 Speaker 1: her doing a solo holiday and she's like in a monologue, 510 00:20:44,714 --> 00:20:46,674 Speaker 1: is her actually typing the article about the holiday she's 511 00:20:46,714 --> 00:20:48,714 Speaker 1: just come back from. And she's like in this beautiful 512 00:20:48,754 --> 00:20:51,353 Speaker 1: resort and she's by herself and there's like no one 513 00:20:51,434 --> 00:20:53,154 Speaker 1: to talk to and no one to hang out with, 514 00:20:53,314 --> 00:20:54,994 Speaker 1: and everyone's kind of looking at her like why are 515 00:20:54,994 --> 00:20:57,154 Speaker 1: you alone and she just goes back to her room 516 00:20:57,234 --> 00:20:58,914 Speaker 1: and like stays there and has a shower. I'm like, 517 00:20:59,274 --> 00:21:01,554 Speaker 1: I feel like so many women who travel alone have 518 00:21:01,674 --> 00:21:05,513 Speaker 1: experienced that. Well, you become so filled with so much anxiety, 519 00:21:05,674 --> 00:21:08,513 Speaker 1: and you're so self conscious about being alone in a 520 00:21:08,714 --> 00:21:10,474 Speaker 1: part of the world that no one knows you, and 521 00:21:10,554 --> 00:21:12,914 Speaker 1: you're also thinking about like safety, and you're sitting there 522 00:21:12,914 --> 00:21:15,034 Speaker 1: and you're like everyone's watching me, everyone's judging me. Like 523 00:21:15,074 --> 00:21:17,674 Speaker 1: there's been so many times on holiday where I've just 524 00:21:17,714 --> 00:21:19,834 Speaker 1: stayed in my hotel room for one full day because 525 00:21:19,834 --> 00:21:22,273 Speaker 1: I've been so scared to just leave. Yeah, And I 526 00:21:22,354 --> 00:21:24,754 Speaker 1: thought her talking about that was just so true. 527 00:21:24,754 --> 00:21:26,353 Speaker 2: And no one wants to say that, because if you're 528 00:21:26,434 --> 00:21:29,154 Speaker 2: traveling solo, it's built up as especially as a woman, 529 00:21:29,194 --> 00:21:31,674 Speaker 2: it's built up as this big kind of like you're 530 00:21:31,714 --> 00:21:34,394 Speaker 2: so independent and you're so strong and you're so powerful, 531 00:21:34,674 --> 00:21:35,914 Speaker 2: and also in your head, you're like, I have to 532 00:21:35,994 --> 00:21:37,273 Speaker 2: make the most of this, and I have to be 533 00:21:37,354 --> 00:21:39,354 Speaker 2: adventurous and get out there. And again, we sell these 534 00:21:39,394 --> 00:21:41,234 Speaker 2: books and TV shows where women go on holidays by 535 00:21:41,274 --> 00:21:43,594 Speaker 2: themselves and they not only meet the love of their life, 536 00:21:43,634 --> 00:21:45,754 Speaker 2: but they meet friends and they get swopped up on adventures, 537 00:21:46,034 --> 00:21:47,954 Speaker 2: and so when that doesn't happen, you do end up 538 00:21:47,994 --> 00:21:49,674 Speaker 2: a bit depressed alone in the hotel room, but you 539 00:21:49,674 --> 00:21:51,234 Speaker 2: don't want to tell anyone because you're like, it's not 540 00:21:51,594 --> 00:21:52,914 Speaker 2: You're like, but I'm adventurous. 541 00:21:53,074 --> 00:21:55,114 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I just want to post my tacos on 542 00:21:55,154 --> 00:21:57,033 Speaker 1: my Instagram story. So you think I'm doing that all 543 00:21:57,074 --> 00:21:58,154 Speaker 1: the time. So true. 544 00:21:58,274 --> 00:22:00,594 Speaker 2: So after we find out that Alex and Poppier friends 545 00:22:00,634 --> 00:22:02,994 Speaker 2: and he meets her parents, Molly Shannon is only this 546 00:22:03,074 --> 00:22:05,353 Speaker 2: movie for a second, but she's so good. So they 547 00:22:05,474 --> 00:22:07,314 Speaker 2: nearly cut the scene where she comes in with the 548 00:22:07,354 --> 00:22:10,474 Speaker 2: massive box of condoms, and Emily Henry said that she 549 00:22:10,594 --> 00:22:12,394 Speaker 2: knew they were going to probably cut that scene because 550 00:22:12,394 --> 00:22:14,234 Speaker 2: she's like, it doesn't really progress the story, but she 551 00:22:14,474 --> 00:22:16,594 Speaker 2: loved it so much, so they filmed it and the 552 00:22:16,634 --> 00:22:17,394 Speaker 2: director kept it in. 553 00:22:17,674 --> 00:22:18,154 Speaker 1: I liked it. 554 00:22:18,954 --> 00:22:21,234 Speaker 2: It really just gives so much insight into like Poppy's character, 555 00:22:21,314 --> 00:22:22,954 Speaker 2: because again, like we don't get as much of her 556 00:22:23,034 --> 00:22:24,754 Speaker 2: backstory in the movie as we do in the book 557 00:22:24,794 --> 00:22:26,834 Speaker 2: to explain why she is the way she is, and 558 00:22:26,954 --> 00:22:29,914 Speaker 2: we've also cut her two brothers from the story, so 559 00:22:30,034 --> 00:22:32,033 Speaker 2: it's like you only really get her parents to kind 560 00:22:32,034 --> 00:22:34,033 Speaker 2: of explain why she's like that. 561 00:22:34,074 --> 00:22:36,194 Speaker 1: Which I'm glad we got parents scene because I feel 562 00:22:36,234 --> 00:22:39,114 Speaker 1: like in traditional rom coms it seems like the woman 563 00:22:39,194 --> 00:22:42,354 Speaker 1: just has no family ever. Yeah, and like the only 564 00:22:42,394 --> 00:22:44,794 Speaker 1: way she can find family is if she finds a 565 00:22:44,834 --> 00:22:47,313 Speaker 1: man like stays with him, and then they're like, oh, 566 00:22:47,554 --> 00:22:49,674 Speaker 1: she'll be fine if she's exactly. 567 00:22:50,234 --> 00:22:52,554 Speaker 2: We also get onto our first trip with the two friends, 568 00:22:52,554 --> 00:22:54,874 Speaker 2: so we're jumping back and forth between timelines. We know 569 00:22:54,994 --> 00:22:57,354 Speaker 2: in present day they're are strange and haven't spoken for 570 00:22:57,434 --> 00:23:00,194 Speaker 2: two years, heartbreaking, But then we get all these scenes 571 00:23:00,234 --> 00:23:03,114 Speaker 2: going back to different trips that they've taken, starting off 572 00:23:03,194 --> 00:23:05,273 Speaker 2: with their camping Canadia invention. 573 00:23:05,594 --> 00:23:08,754 Speaker 1: Yes, Alex has just broken up with his girlfriend Sarah, 574 00:23:08,994 --> 00:23:11,074 Speaker 1: or she broke up with him, and he's really really sad. 575 00:23:11,354 --> 00:23:13,793 Speaker 1: So this is off the back of him visiting her 576 00:23:13,874 --> 00:23:17,033 Speaker 1: and her parents, and then they go camping together in Canada, 577 00:23:17,074 --> 00:23:19,354 Speaker 1: which is one of the places he's always wanted to go. Yeah. 578 00:23:21,554 --> 00:23:23,674 Speaker 2: It is very cute though, and we have again all 579 00:23:23,754 --> 00:23:26,074 Speaker 2: of these scenes of them like on adventures and like 580 00:23:26,194 --> 00:23:28,994 Speaker 2: them finding their travel rhythm together. And again this is 581 00:23:29,034 --> 00:23:30,674 Speaker 2: where I think their chemistry did come through. 582 00:23:30,794 --> 00:23:32,954 Speaker 1: But it should have come through a little bit more. Yeah, 583 00:23:33,034 --> 00:23:35,273 Speaker 1: but it was fine. There's all these little callbacks to 584 00:23:35,354 --> 00:23:35,674 Speaker 1: the book. 585 00:23:36,114 --> 00:23:37,954 Speaker 2: Like in the book, one thing they say is like, 586 00:23:38,074 --> 00:23:39,874 Speaker 2: it speaks to me on a trip they go on 587 00:23:39,954 --> 00:23:41,874 Speaker 2: where someone says that to them and they repeated over 588 00:23:41,914 --> 00:23:43,714 Speaker 2: and over to each other. So when she looks and 589 00:23:43,794 --> 00:23:46,834 Speaker 2: sees that crazy statue and she's like, it speaks to me, 590 00:23:46,914 --> 00:23:48,754 Speaker 2: Like she says it once, but it's a real callback 591 00:23:48,754 --> 00:23:52,674 Speaker 2: to like a whole chapter book, full chapter. And then 592 00:23:52,754 --> 00:23:55,274 Speaker 2: they meet Buck played by Lucas Gage, who I'm always 593 00:23:55,314 --> 00:23:57,874 Speaker 2: so happy to see pop up in anything, like just 594 00:23:57,914 --> 00:23:59,994 Speaker 2: find that man is so funny and like Buck, it 595 00:24:00,154 --> 00:24:04,114 Speaker 2: like lives in the forest, but he's got a speedboat. 596 00:24:05,514 --> 00:24:07,954 Speaker 2: In the book, they live in this like shackled house 597 00:24:08,034 --> 00:24:10,273 Speaker 2: him and like fifty other people and they go there 598 00:24:10,274 --> 00:24:12,834 Speaker 2: and there's tents in the backyard they sleep in. But yes, 599 00:24:12,994 --> 00:24:14,793 Speaker 2: in this they're just they just capt Well, the thing 600 00:24:14,874 --> 00:24:17,754 Speaker 2: is they're like all backpackers, wanderers, adventurers. They're all doing 601 00:24:17,834 --> 00:24:20,074 Speaker 2: like part time contract job. So that's why they're all 602 00:24:20,154 --> 00:24:22,634 Speaker 2: camping in the forest. And it's kind of a cute 603 00:24:22,674 --> 00:24:25,474 Speaker 2: moment because on the boat you can see that Poppy 604 00:24:25,594 --> 00:24:28,274 Speaker 2: is desperate to go because she's desperate to have adventure 605 00:24:28,314 --> 00:24:30,194 Speaker 2: and like tick these things off a list that she's 606 00:24:30,234 --> 00:24:32,354 Speaker 2: got in her head. And you can tell Alex doesn't 607 00:24:32,354 --> 00:24:34,354 Speaker 2: want to go because that's his nightmare. Yeah, but he 608 00:24:34,514 --> 00:24:37,434 Speaker 2: looks at her and can tell that she is so 609 00:24:37,634 --> 00:24:41,394 Speaker 2: desperate to go and so desperate to sleep with lue Cage. 610 00:24:41,794 --> 00:24:43,074 Speaker 1: Yeah, but she doesn't. 611 00:24:43,594 --> 00:24:45,313 Speaker 3: And then we also get a little tom blythe kind 612 00:24:45,314 --> 00:24:45,954 Speaker 3: of naked scene. 613 00:24:46,034 --> 00:24:48,514 Speaker 1: But I enjoyed, Yeah, I enjoyed that. So they're both 614 00:24:48,594 --> 00:24:50,394 Speaker 1: like single, They're like, let's make the most of it. 615 00:24:50,514 --> 00:24:53,034 Speaker 1: We're clearly platonic friends, so let's go sleep with other people. 616 00:24:53,394 --> 00:24:55,674 Speaker 1: It doesn't really work out. They end up in the 617 00:24:55,754 --> 00:24:59,273 Speaker 1: tent together, but it's still very platonic. Yeah. And then 618 00:24:59,394 --> 00:25:01,394 Speaker 1: that's where we see them make the pact of like 619 00:25:01,554 --> 00:25:04,474 Speaker 1: doing this thing every single summer for the rest of history. 620 00:25:05,074 --> 00:25:07,674 Speaker 2: The thing is in the book. I was like ripping 621 00:25:07,754 --> 00:25:10,154 Speaker 2: the pages forward so desperate for them to hook up. 622 00:25:10,194 --> 00:25:12,754 Speaker 2: I'm kiss in the movie, I was like, maybe you 623 00:25:12,794 --> 00:25:14,114 Speaker 2: guys are better as friends. 624 00:25:14,634 --> 00:25:18,634 Speaker 1: I think they were friends, Like even in their boat scene, 625 00:25:18,754 --> 00:25:20,994 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, yeah, I think you should. 626 00:25:21,234 --> 00:25:22,594 Speaker 3: Cook up with the weird boat guy. 627 00:25:22,874 --> 00:25:24,354 Speaker 1: Yeah, Age, Yeah, liked it. 628 00:25:24,994 --> 00:25:26,714 Speaker 2: So then the thing is in the book again, you 629 00:25:26,834 --> 00:25:29,474 Speaker 2: have a lot more trips that they take. Trips in 630 00:25:29,594 --> 00:25:31,273 Speaker 2: the movie you don't see as many. Some of them 631 00:25:31,314 --> 00:25:34,234 Speaker 2: have condensed, But the New Orleans scene is very much 632 00:25:34,354 --> 00:25:37,194 Speaker 2: that whole sequence of events is very much like kind 633 00:25:37,274 --> 00:25:39,954 Speaker 2: of made for and ramped up for the movie. And 634 00:25:40,074 --> 00:25:42,234 Speaker 2: I honestly there's a New Orleans scene where they pretend 635 00:25:42,314 --> 00:25:44,354 Speaker 2: to be the married couple and she's in the wig 636 00:25:44,514 --> 00:25:46,234 Speaker 2: and everything. Yeah, and I do think that's where the 637 00:25:46,354 --> 00:25:48,114 Speaker 2: chemistry is the best. What do you think of the 638 00:25:48,194 --> 00:25:50,194 Speaker 2: dance scene when they get on the dance floor, because 639 00:25:50,234 --> 00:25:52,434 Speaker 2: that really okay, just so you know, that's meant to 640 00:25:52,474 --> 00:25:53,994 Speaker 2: be the standout scene of the show. 641 00:25:54,354 --> 00:25:55,394 Speaker 1: And I saw it in the trailer. 642 00:25:55,594 --> 00:25:57,314 Speaker 2: Most Yeah, that's why it's in the trailer, and most 643 00:25:57,394 --> 00:25:59,394 Speaker 2: people say that it's their favorite scene from the movie. 644 00:25:59,434 --> 00:26:02,114 Speaker 1: You didn't like it, I mean I liked it because 645 00:26:02,154 --> 00:26:03,914 Speaker 1: I like, I think it was the first time you 646 00:26:03,994 --> 00:26:08,074 Speaker 1: see like a character a mini character development from Alex. Yeah, 647 00:26:08,194 --> 00:26:11,194 Speaker 1: because like he and they talk about this in the movie, 648 00:26:11,234 --> 00:26:12,634 Speaker 1: and I'm sure in the book how he is like 649 00:26:12,674 --> 00:26:15,554 Speaker 1: a different person on vacation. So he's like this really 650 00:26:15,674 --> 00:26:19,354 Speaker 1: like stiff, like awkward, introverted guy. Yeah, and then she 651 00:26:19,634 --> 00:26:21,674 Speaker 1: just says like, oh, he'll show you how to dance 652 00:26:21,794 --> 00:26:24,034 Speaker 1: right now, knowing that he wouldn't do it, and he 653 00:26:24,154 --> 00:26:24,994 Speaker 1: just gets up and gives it. 654 00:26:25,234 --> 00:26:25,634 Speaker 3: He does it. 655 00:26:25,834 --> 00:26:28,034 Speaker 2: Yeah, he gets and you can see like the happiness. 656 00:26:28,074 --> 00:26:29,634 Speaker 2: And this is where tom Blythe is really good. Actually, 657 00:26:29,634 --> 00:26:30,874 Speaker 2: they're both so good in the scene. 658 00:26:30,874 --> 00:26:31,313 Speaker 1: I'll give him. 659 00:26:31,314 --> 00:26:32,954 Speaker 2: They're both great in the scene, and I see chemistry 660 00:26:32,994 --> 00:26:38,034 Speaker 2: between but tom Blythe is like he plays that. Alex 661 00:26:38,194 --> 00:26:40,114 Speaker 2: is just so like he's nervous, but then he's just 662 00:26:40,194 --> 00:26:42,273 Speaker 2: so happy with himself that he's done this because it's 663 00:26:42,314 --> 00:26:44,513 Speaker 2: not something he would ever do. And that does explain 664 00:26:44,594 --> 00:26:46,513 Speaker 2: how he falls in love with Poppy, because he likes 665 00:26:46,514 --> 00:26:48,234 Speaker 2: her a lot as a friend before that, but in 666 00:26:48,354 --> 00:26:50,594 Speaker 2: that dancing scene, he's kind of looking her like, wow, 667 00:26:50,714 --> 00:26:53,714 Speaker 2: you've turned me into a new person and I'm obsessed 668 00:26:53,754 --> 00:26:53,954 Speaker 2: with you. 669 00:26:54,314 --> 00:26:55,714 Speaker 1: So that's really cute, I guess. 670 00:26:56,034 --> 00:26:59,154 Speaker 2: Shall we move on to the Tuscany trip, which is 671 00:26:59,194 --> 00:27:02,594 Speaker 2: an amalgamation of two different scenes in the book. Oh yeah, 672 00:27:02,714 --> 00:27:04,234 Speaker 2: so it's doing a lot of the heavy lifting to 673 00:27:04,274 --> 00:27:04,594 Speaker 2: make up. 674 00:27:04,634 --> 00:27:05,634 Speaker 1: I get it. I get in the movie. 675 00:27:05,674 --> 00:27:08,754 Speaker 2: They can't have different trips with ten different things would 676 00:27:08,754 --> 00:27:10,314 Speaker 2: be all over the place. Do you think it should 677 00:27:10,314 --> 00:27:12,273 Speaker 2: have been a mini series? I was thinking that as 678 00:27:12,274 --> 00:27:14,313 Speaker 2: I watched it, like, would we have been better as 679 00:27:14,314 --> 00:27:16,194 Speaker 2: a miniseries to get all of these trips in or 680 00:27:16,234 --> 00:27:16,434 Speaker 2: does it? 681 00:27:18,234 --> 00:27:20,273 Speaker 1: Actually? I think I would have preferred it as a 682 00:27:20,314 --> 00:27:24,274 Speaker 1: mini series really like a country per episode, Yeah, okay, yeah, 683 00:27:24,474 --> 00:27:25,994 Speaker 1: and then like some flashbacks in between. 684 00:27:26,114 --> 00:27:27,834 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe that would have helped it kind of like 685 00:27:28,074 --> 00:27:30,273 Speaker 2: just would have helped the chemistry and the relationship grow. 686 00:27:30,314 --> 00:27:33,114 Speaker 1: Because I just felt like it was too long, too 687 00:27:33,194 --> 00:27:36,273 Speaker 1: many things, like unnecessary things happened in the moon, like 688 00:27:36,794 --> 00:27:38,194 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I should have been half an hour. 689 00:27:39,114 --> 00:27:41,874 Speaker 2: No, no, But also so many important thing from the book, 690 00:27:41,874 --> 00:27:43,114 Speaker 2: because the thing is you have to believe this is 691 00:27:43,194 --> 00:27:46,554 Speaker 2: a best friend situation that's spanned over a decade and 692 00:27:46,674 --> 00:27:49,234 Speaker 2: then two years of silence and then them coming back 693 00:27:49,274 --> 00:27:52,754 Speaker 2: together under these like extraordinary circumstances, so you have to 694 00:27:52,794 --> 00:27:54,634 Speaker 2: see that. But so we have the Tuscany trip, which 695 00:27:54,634 --> 00:27:56,474 Speaker 2: stands in for a lot of different locations in the book. 696 00:27:56,634 --> 00:27:59,754 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it hasn't been awkward in the start, Yeah, 697 00:27:59,794 --> 00:28:01,273 Speaker 1: because Alex is back with. 698 00:28:01,354 --> 00:28:04,554 Speaker 2: Sarah yes, played by Sarah Catherine Hawker. People would know 699 00:28:04,634 --> 00:28:06,474 Speaker 2: from the last season of White Lotus Piper. 700 00:28:06,754 --> 00:28:08,874 Speaker 3: Oh my god, yea, yeah, do you not know that's her? 701 00:28:09,034 --> 00:28:09,714 Speaker 1: No, I didn't know this. 702 00:28:09,914 --> 00:28:13,554 Speaker 3: Yes, and then of course our boy also, yeah, confession. 703 00:28:14,114 --> 00:28:17,274 Speaker 1: When I was watching this, yeah, I wasn't wearing my glasses. 704 00:28:17,834 --> 00:28:20,434 Speaker 3: I can't believe you just said that. Now we're halfway 705 00:28:20,514 --> 00:28:20,754 Speaker 3: through this. 706 00:28:21,114 --> 00:28:24,154 Speaker 1: No, I could see what was happening. I've been with you. 707 00:28:24,234 --> 00:28:26,314 Speaker 3: When you're not wearing your glasses, you can't see a thing. 708 00:28:27,394 --> 00:28:29,314 Speaker 3: I don't believe you've been seeing these people kiss. Do 709 00:28:29,354 --> 00:28:30,794 Speaker 3: you even know what the ending is? I do. 710 00:28:31,474 --> 00:28:33,874 Speaker 2: I'm just everyone's sound listening back to everything you've said. 711 00:28:33,914 --> 00:28:35,754 Speaker 2: Been like taking that with a grain of salt. No, 712 00:28:36,434 --> 00:28:39,634 Speaker 2: you're like they'd never danced. How could you see their 713 00:28:39,834 --> 00:28:41,514 Speaker 2: of course you couldn't see the chemistry because they just 714 00:28:41,554 --> 00:28:43,554 Speaker 2: two blobs on the screen moving around. 715 00:28:44,474 --> 00:28:45,234 Speaker 1: No, I could see. 716 00:28:45,274 --> 00:28:47,554 Speaker 3: I could see your opinions of veto and see. 717 00:28:47,634 --> 00:28:49,114 Speaker 1: I just couldn't read the subtitles. 718 00:28:49,274 --> 00:28:52,594 Speaker 2: Okay, you watch with subtitles, that's for another Obviously, how 719 00:28:52,634 --> 00:28:54,554 Speaker 2: do you not watch what I would never watch? Changing 720 00:28:54,554 --> 00:28:56,554 Speaker 2: the subtitles? And if anyone says to me, you watched 721 00:28:56,554 --> 00:28:58,634 Speaker 2: Emily and Parison subtitles. No, I was a guest at 722 00:28:58,674 --> 00:29:00,594 Speaker 2: someone else's house and they put the subtitles on. 723 00:29:00,754 --> 00:29:02,714 Speaker 1: I have to watch your subtitles because I only watch 724 00:29:02,794 --> 00:29:04,514 Speaker 1: movies when I'm eating food, and I can't hear that 725 00:29:04,594 --> 00:29:06,274 Speaker 1: when I'm chewing Emily. 726 00:29:06,154 --> 00:29:07,954 Speaker 3: You cannot something like that. 727 00:29:08,074 --> 00:29:10,274 Speaker 2: You're missing all the new ones, and you're reading ahead 728 00:29:10,314 --> 00:29:13,354 Speaker 2: because the line appears on screen before the person has 729 00:29:13,354 --> 00:29:15,194 Speaker 2: said it, so you lose all of the nuance. This 730 00:29:15,394 --> 00:29:17,194 Speaker 2: is not to people who have like any kind of 731 00:29:17,274 --> 00:29:20,234 Speaker 2: eyesight issues who need subtitles. If you've got your glasses on, 732 00:29:20,314 --> 00:29:20,994 Speaker 2: you don't need them. 733 00:29:21,154 --> 00:29:23,034 Speaker 1: Well, I didn't have my glasses on, so you read, 734 00:29:23,834 --> 00:29:25,954 Speaker 1: so I couldn't read the subtitles, and I was lost 735 00:29:26,434 --> 00:29:27,434 Speaker 1: without my subtitles. 736 00:29:27,634 --> 00:29:30,554 Speaker 2: I just think for subtitles, people have them on because 737 00:29:30,554 --> 00:29:33,754 Speaker 2: they're too busy double screening, and then those people don't 738 00:29:33,794 --> 00:29:35,314 Speaker 2: get to have an opinion on whether the movie or 739 00:29:35,354 --> 00:29:36,034 Speaker 2: TV show is good. 740 00:29:36,034 --> 00:29:37,714 Speaker 3: That's not just to you. That's I agree. 741 00:29:37,714 --> 00:29:41,114 Speaker 1: If you're double screening, you can't review this, but if 742 00:29:41,154 --> 00:29:42,874 Speaker 1: you have subtitles, you're allowed to. 743 00:29:43,714 --> 00:29:45,914 Speaker 3: I just think that that's not how unless you read. 744 00:29:46,034 --> 00:29:47,634 Speaker 1: Sometimes I want to read a movie, you can read 745 00:29:47,674 --> 00:29:50,594 Speaker 1: the book. You might as well read the book. 746 00:29:50,634 --> 00:29:51,434 Speaker 3: If you're going to do that. 747 00:29:52,114 --> 00:29:52,914 Speaker 1: Well, no, I don't need to. 748 00:29:53,474 --> 00:29:54,754 Speaker 3: Well, I mean the book is a lot. 749 00:29:54,754 --> 00:29:56,594 Speaker 2: I think you would actually come back around to the 750 00:29:56,994 --> 00:29:58,514 Speaker 2: story if and you would really love it if you 751 00:29:58,554 --> 00:29:59,034 Speaker 2: read the book. 752 00:29:59,274 --> 00:30:01,994 Speaker 1: It's also, yeah, should a movie to book? Yes? 753 00:30:02,514 --> 00:30:04,554 Speaker 3: No, I've done that before and sometimes it's great. 754 00:30:04,874 --> 00:30:06,114 Speaker 2: The thing is, you already knew that were going to 755 00:30:06,154 --> 00:30:08,514 Speaker 2: get together before you picked up because Emily Henry book, 756 00:30:08,834 --> 00:30:10,554 Speaker 2: and there's so many things in here we can't even 757 00:30:10,594 --> 00:30:12,154 Speaker 2: touch on today you'll be like, who are these people? 758 00:30:12,194 --> 00:30:16,434 Speaker 1: What is happening? Okay? So anyway back to Tuscany. 759 00:30:16,674 --> 00:30:20,074 Speaker 3: So Sarah kathin Hawkies is playing Sarah and then Lucian 760 00:30:20,274 --> 00:30:24,874 Speaker 3: Leviscuant is playing Trey obviously from Emily in Paris. 761 00:30:24,674 --> 00:30:27,154 Speaker 1: And they're just not making him like mean boys. You know, 762 00:30:27,274 --> 00:30:28,794 Speaker 1: he's always the second choice. 763 00:30:31,074 --> 00:30:35,274 Speaker 2: Well, someone be the leading man, Let someone pick him 764 00:30:35,354 --> 00:30:38,114 Speaker 2: for one so hot he's so hot and no one 765 00:30:38,314 --> 00:30:39,234 Speaker 2: ever picks him. 766 00:30:39,434 --> 00:30:43,474 Speaker 1: Okay, I really wanted I really wanted him and to 767 00:30:43,554 --> 00:30:47,234 Speaker 1: end up together. They have so much good chemistry. 768 00:30:48,194 --> 00:30:49,514 Speaker 3: I was like, no, stay with that guy? 769 00:30:49,594 --> 00:30:52,394 Speaker 2: Can I tell you him and Alex together I actually 770 00:30:52,434 --> 00:30:54,114 Speaker 2: loved on screen, and I think they should have an 771 00:30:54,114 --> 00:30:57,314 Speaker 2: odd couple kind of spin off because Trey and Alex 772 00:30:57,474 --> 00:31:00,634 Speaker 2: just come from different worlds. And at one point Trey's like. 773 00:31:00,674 --> 00:31:02,794 Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't even have a mailbox, and 774 00:31:02,954 --> 00:31:05,834 Speaker 3: Alex goes, you don't have a mailbox, and then Trey 775 00:31:05,914 --> 00:31:10,234 Speaker 3: says back, with no humor, no, I've got wonderlust. It's like, 776 00:31:11,674 --> 00:31:14,234 Speaker 3: no one's allowed to say that. That's the worst thing 777 00:31:14,314 --> 00:31:15,594 Speaker 3: that anyone could ever say. 778 00:31:16,034 --> 00:31:18,234 Speaker 2: Can you imagine any human being but a grown man 779 00:31:18,314 --> 00:31:21,634 Speaker 2: saying that without a hint of irony or humor. So 780 00:31:21,794 --> 00:31:23,234 Speaker 2: I got the dick for him then, So I do 781 00:31:23,434 --> 00:31:26,594 Speaker 2: understand why Poppy didn't choose him. But yes, we've got 782 00:31:26,634 --> 00:31:27,474 Speaker 2: the four couple that. 783 00:31:27,514 --> 00:31:30,594 Speaker 1: You're like, has a strong choice to make someone unlikable, 784 00:31:31,074 --> 00:31:33,274 Speaker 1: like because he's just so likable and everything he's. 785 00:31:33,154 --> 00:31:35,714 Speaker 2: In Yeah again, well again, he's meant to be. He's 786 00:31:35,714 --> 00:31:37,194 Speaker 2: likable in the book. When they break on the book, 787 00:31:37,234 --> 00:31:39,034 Speaker 2: they're just like, we had a great time together, but 788 00:31:39,114 --> 00:31:41,434 Speaker 2: we don't want the same thing. So like peace out, 789 00:31:41,514 --> 00:31:42,314 Speaker 2: like they high five. 790 00:31:42,394 --> 00:31:42,954 Speaker 1: It's fine. 791 00:31:43,474 --> 00:31:45,954 Speaker 2: So we've got the two couples in the Tuscan villa 792 00:31:46,114 --> 00:31:50,514 Speaker 2: for this couple's holiday, which is a terrible idea because 793 00:31:50,714 --> 00:31:53,394 Speaker 2: it's tense and it causes a lot of issues. And 794 00:31:53,474 --> 00:31:54,834 Speaker 2: I think this is a good time to talk about 795 00:31:54,834 --> 00:31:58,714 Speaker 2: the character of Sarah. Okay, because in any other world, 796 00:31:59,314 --> 00:32:02,514 Speaker 2: this is Sarah's story and Poppy is the villain. Can 797 00:32:02,594 --> 00:32:06,154 Speaker 2: you imagine Sarah explaining pop On to her friends justice 798 00:32:06,154 --> 00:32:09,554 Speaker 2: for fucking Sarah, yet justice for Sarah. Want to come 799 00:32:09,634 --> 00:32:13,554 Speaker 2: to this, I don't know, It's just it's just sometimes 800 00:32:13,594 --> 00:32:15,634 Speaker 2: the main girl is actually the villain and we just 801 00:32:15,674 --> 00:32:16,874 Speaker 2: happen to get her point of view. 802 00:32:17,234 --> 00:32:22,914 Speaker 3: Not the summer turned pretty for lady, I know, lazy, 803 00:32:22,994 --> 00:32:24,354 Speaker 3: It's like, where is her story? 804 00:32:25,114 --> 00:32:28,714 Speaker 2: Could just imagine Sarah explaining Poppy to her friends, like, say, 805 00:32:28,794 --> 00:32:30,994 Speaker 2: you and Iron are having drinks with Sarah. She's our 806 00:32:31,074 --> 00:32:33,874 Speaker 2: friend and she's like, I'm Dames guy called Alex. I've 807 00:32:33,874 --> 00:32:35,834 Speaker 2: known him forever. We've been on and off and get 808 00:32:35,874 --> 00:32:37,754 Speaker 2: a little bit, but like we're really making goal of 809 00:32:37,794 --> 00:32:38,114 Speaker 2: this time. 810 00:32:38,194 --> 00:32:40,234 Speaker 1: My families know each other, Yah, we've known each other 811 00:32:40,314 --> 00:32:40,674 Speaker 1: whole life. 812 00:32:40,834 --> 00:32:41,514 Speaker 3: On the same page. 813 00:32:41,554 --> 00:32:43,594 Speaker 2: We both want to stay in Landfield, we both want 814 00:32:43,634 --> 00:32:45,714 Speaker 2: to get married with one of kids in the book. 815 00:32:45,754 --> 00:32:47,794 Speaker 2: They're also both teachers who end up teaching at the 816 00:32:47,794 --> 00:32:49,954 Speaker 2: same school, so they're even more kind of like in 817 00:32:50,074 --> 00:32:52,634 Speaker 2: each other's lives, and they meet at college. But he 818 00:32:52,754 --> 00:32:55,714 Speaker 2: has this best friend, Sarah tells us, and her name's Poppy. 819 00:32:56,434 --> 00:32:59,034 Speaker 2: Now he goes on a holiday every year with Poppy, 820 00:32:59,234 --> 00:33:00,954 Speaker 2: just the two of them, to which I have never 821 00:33:00,994 --> 00:33:04,314 Speaker 2: been invited. Poppy calls him and messages him all the time, 822 00:33:04,394 --> 00:33:07,074 Speaker 2: and she's always in a disaster, something terrible is all 823 00:33:07,114 --> 00:33:09,354 Speaker 2: always happening, and Alex has to go and save her 824 00:33:09,434 --> 00:33:11,554 Speaker 2: and look after her. And every time I'm with Poppy, 825 00:33:11,674 --> 00:33:13,434 Speaker 2: she pretends to be my friend, but I get a 826 00:33:13,554 --> 00:33:15,754 Speaker 2: terrible vibe from her, And if that was our friend, 827 00:33:15,834 --> 00:33:16,154 Speaker 2: we'd be. 828 00:33:16,234 --> 00:33:18,994 Speaker 3: Like, who is this monster? And you need to tell 829 00:33:19,074 --> 00:33:20,514 Speaker 3: him he can't see her anymore? 830 00:33:21,634 --> 00:33:26,114 Speaker 1: Right, Oh my god, Oh my god, you're looking distressed. 831 00:33:26,794 --> 00:33:28,674 Speaker 3: I'm just saying Sarah's point of view of this whole 832 00:33:28,754 --> 00:33:30,354 Speaker 3: debarcle is a very different story. 833 00:33:30,794 --> 00:33:33,514 Speaker 1: And now I'm just rethinking about seeing the Tuscany where 834 00:33:33,514 --> 00:33:35,634 Speaker 1: they're like about to go to bed, yeah, and he's 835 00:33:35,634 --> 00:33:38,314 Speaker 1: like on his phone and she's like is it Poppy, Yeah, 836 00:33:38,354 --> 00:33:40,794 Speaker 1: And he's like, yeah, she'll probably go check on her, right, Yeah, 837 00:33:40,994 --> 00:33:45,474 Speaker 1: you sit you're ask you sit down, and you stay. 838 00:33:46,274 --> 00:33:48,714 Speaker 1: You have sex with your beautiful girl, and you go 839 00:33:48,794 --> 00:33:49,154 Speaker 1: to sleep. 840 00:33:49,234 --> 00:33:51,034 Speaker 2: But she can't say that because then she looks like 841 00:33:51,114 --> 00:33:54,274 Speaker 2: the villain of like this controlling girlfriend and like go 842 00:33:54,394 --> 00:33:54,874 Speaker 2: check on her. 843 00:33:55,234 --> 00:33:58,194 Speaker 1: And he drives her into town for a pregnancy test 844 00:33:58,274 --> 00:33:58,594 Speaker 1: and then. 845 00:33:58,594 --> 00:34:00,754 Speaker 3: Proposes to Sarah, which again he doesn't do in the books, 846 00:34:00,874 --> 00:34:01,594 Speaker 3: really kissing her. 847 00:34:01,914 --> 00:34:04,874 Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, in the book they have that kiss, 848 00:34:04,874 --> 00:34:08,154 Speaker 1: and then she's from this relationship. 849 00:34:08,274 --> 00:34:10,194 Speaker 2: And then in the movie he proposes to her like 850 00:34:10,194 --> 00:34:12,433 Speaker 2: obviously had the ring, but he only proposes to her 851 00:34:12,714 --> 00:34:15,194 Speaker 2: because he thinks Poppy is never gonna love him from 852 00:34:15,234 --> 00:34:15,674 Speaker 2: their kids. 853 00:34:16,194 --> 00:34:19,914 Speaker 1: So she also gets hate this guy. I hate Alix. 854 00:34:20,434 --> 00:34:22,834 Speaker 3: I mean he's he's just also movie people that meant 855 00:34:22,874 --> 00:34:23,434 Speaker 3: to be perfect. 856 00:34:23,514 --> 00:34:27,913 Speaker 1: He's just behavior. Also you're like, oh, I'll just keep 857 00:34:27,994 --> 00:34:28,794 Speaker 1: her on like the back. 858 00:34:29,074 --> 00:34:29,274 Speaker 2: Yeah. 859 00:34:29,714 --> 00:34:31,434 Speaker 1: See if my main girl likes me, not oh she 860 00:34:31,474 --> 00:34:33,074 Speaker 1: doesn't like me, Okay, I guess I'll marry this one. 861 00:34:33,234 --> 00:34:34,274 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a bit like that. 862 00:34:34,394 --> 00:34:36,834 Speaker 2: That's why I'm saying the Sarah spinoff is a very 863 00:34:36,834 --> 00:34:39,354 Speaker 2: different story to this. So again, in the book, she's 864 00:34:39,394 --> 00:34:42,794 Speaker 2: a teacher and when Poppy goes to Lynnfield at the end, oh. 865 00:34:42,754 --> 00:34:45,114 Speaker 1: Fuck, we need someone to write about sarah story. We 866 00:34:45,234 --> 00:34:46,514 Speaker 1: need someone to do a wicked. 867 00:34:47,234 --> 00:34:50,594 Speaker 2: O my god. Yes, yes, the untold story of Sarah 868 00:34:50,754 --> 00:34:53,234 Speaker 2: from the people we made on vacation and it's a 869 00:34:53,354 --> 00:34:54,194 Speaker 2: very different story. 870 00:34:55,834 --> 00:34:57,234 Speaker 1: So can we write it? Yeah, let's do it. I 871 00:34:57,314 --> 00:34:58,034 Speaker 1: can do it right after this. 872 00:34:58,674 --> 00:35:00,914 Speaker 2: So in the book, Poppy goes to the school to 873 00:35:00,954 --> 00:35:03,314 Speaker 2: tell how she loves him and because the school's locked 874 00:35:03,354 --> 00:35:05,194 Speaker 2: because you can't just let strangers into a school, and 875 00:35:05,234 --> 00:35:06,954 Speaker 2: Poppy can't get that because she's special. 876 00:35:07,274 --> 00:35:11,473 Speaker 1: Sorry that was me. She's fine now, we just made 877 00:35:11,514 --> 00:35:12,834 Speaker 1: ourselves hate these people. 878 00:35:14,154 --> 00:35:19,794 Speaker 2: I wouldn't do it. She's still our girl. And I 879 00:35:19,954 --> 00:35:21,834 Speaker 2: also sometimes it's the same thing with Carry in Sex 880 00:35:21,874 --> 00:35:23,434 Speaker 2: and City. Sometimes you hate her because you relate to 881 00:35:23,474 --> 00:35:25,874 Speaker 2: it too much a lot of the time. When Poppy 882 00:35:25,914 --> 00:35:29,234 Speaker 2: gets into scrapes, I'm like, same girl. And then Sarah 883 00:35:29,314 --> 00:35:30,553 Speaker 2: is the one who comes to the door and tells 884 00:35:30,594 --> 00:35:33,234 Speaker 2: the security letter in and then they have this conversation 885 00:35:33,354 --> 00:35:36,234 Speaker 2: of realization about like Sarah's like, well, you know, he 886 00:35:36,394 --> 00:35:38,274 Speaker 2: kind of always loved you, and all this sort of 887 00:35:38,314 --> 00:35:41,154 Speaker 2: stuff and everything, and they had that moment that's been 888 00:35:41,274 --> 00:35:43,434 Speaker 2: tweaked in the movie, I guess in a kind of 889 00:35:43,514 --> 00:35:46,594 Speaker 2: interesting way where they gave Sarah this extra story, so. 890 00:35:46,714 --> 00:35:50,473 Speaker 1: Like that's the book, it happened straight after. In the book, 891 00:35:50,514 --> 00:35:51,314 Speaker 1: Sarah is a teacher. 892 00:35:51,634 --> 00:35:54,033 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and she just stays a teacher and there's 893 00:35:54,074 --> 00:35:56,473 Speaker 2: no conversation like she and Poppy talk when Pobby comes 894 00:35:56,514 --> 00:35:58,634 Speaker 2: to school to tell her she loves him, and Sarah's like, 895 00:35:58,994 --> 00:36:00,834 Speaker 2: you know, yeah, tell him, like you guys should be 896 00:36:00,834 --> 00:36:01,514 Speaker 2: along together, like. 897 00:36:01,554 --> 00:36:02,434 Speaker 1: I should have, Sarah. 898 00:36:02,954 --> 00:36:05,114 Speaker 2: But in the movie they give her this big arc 899 00:36:05,194 --> 00:36:07,474 Speaker 2: of like she's stuck in this world she want to 900 00:36:07,474 --> 00:36:09,234 Speaker 2: be and she's been told to take over a family 901 00:36:09,314 --> 00:36:11,794 Speaker 2: business and stay in Lynnfield and marry Alex And that's 902 00:36:11,834 --> 00:36:14,314 Speaker 2: why they had that moment where Sarah and Poppy bump 903 00:36:14,434 --> 00:36:16,553 Speaker 2: into each other at the airport. You might have missed 904 00:36:16,594 --> 00:36:20,194 Speaker 2: us if you couldn't read the subtitles quick enough. But Sarah, 905 00:36:20,714 --> 00:36:22,914 Speaker 2: Sarah says to Poppy, you really did be a favor 906 00:36:22,994 --> 00:36:24,954 Speaker 2: because I didn't know my life could be this and 907 00:36:25,034 --> 00:36:26,914 Speaker 2: I didn't know I could have these adventures. 908 00:36:26,474 --> 00:36:28,033 Speaker 1: Because and now she's traveling the world. 909 00:36:28,074 --> 00:36:30,994 Speaker 2: She was very enamored when Poppy was telling her stories 910 00:36:31,034 --> 00:36:32,554 Speaker 2: about traveling in the villainy. 911 00:36:32,754 --> 00:36:33,473 Speaker 1: She's a good friend. 912 00:36:33,554 --> 00:36:36,114 Speaker 2: So she listened listen to Poppy talked and she and 913 00:36:36,154 --> 00:36:37,514 Speaker 2: you can see this look on her face. She's like, 914 00:36:37,554 --> 00:36:39,794 Speaker 2: I didn't even know this was an option to live 915 00:36:39,874 --> 00:36:41,234 Speaker 2: your life like this. I didn't know it was an 916 00:36:41,274 --> 00:36:42,634 Speaker 2: option not to stay in your hometown. 917 00:36:42,714 --> 00:36:44,514 Speaker 1: I wouldn't know because you need. 918 00:36:45,874 --> 00:36:48,114 Speaker 2: And my boyfriend just goes off to these wild countries 919 00:36:48,154 --> 00:36:50,914 Speaker 2: every year with his sexy best friend and then messages 920 00:36:50,954 --> 00:36:53,354 Speaker 2: me two weeks later. So I guess that was kind 921 00:36:53,354 --> 00:36:55,274 Speaker 2: of nice. They gave Sarah this arc of like she's 922 00:36:55,314 --> 00:36:57,194 Speaker 2: the one to tell Poppy, yeah, like you did me 923 00:36:57,234 --> 00:36:59,754 Speaker 2: a favor. You guys belong together kind of go get 924 00:36:59,834 --> 00:37:01,873 Speaker 2: him kind of thing. And then you also get this 925 00:37:02,074 --> 00:37:04,074 Speaker 2: new story for Sarah where she gets to go and 926 00:37:04,194 --> 00:37:06,634 Speaker 2: live this adventurous life. So she's not left behind in 927 00:37:06,674 --> 00:37:08,794 Speaker 2: Lynnfield like Sarah in the book. 928 00:37:10,074 --> 00:37:13,034 Speaker 1: Oh God, Sarah the book just left behind. 929 00:37:13,314 --> 00:37:15,754 Speaker 3: Well, she just is like in Lindfield. I'm sure she's fine. 930 00:37:16,234 --> 00:37:18,553 Speaker 2: She was a teacher, she was fine, but she didn't 931 00:37:18,594 --> 00:37:20,714 Speaker 2: have this side story of like wanting like you assume 932 00:37:20,794 --> 00:37:23,234 Speaker 2: she wanted to be there. In the book, she moves 933 00:37:23,274 --> 00:37:25,674 Speaker 2: to Lindfield to teach the same school as Alex, and 934 00:37:25,714 --> 00:37:27,274 Speaker 2: then they break up and he gets together with Poppy, 935 00:37:27,314 --> 00:37:29,434 Speaker 2: and what do they all see each other at school barbecues? 936 00:37:29,474 --> 00:37:32,473 Speaker 2: I guess so God, before they moved to New York. 937 00:37:33,114 --> 00:37:36,114 Speaker 1: Girl, get up, girl, Girl, get out. 938 00:37:35,954 --> 00:37:36,874 Speaker 3: Of there again. 939 00:37:36,914 --> 00:37:39,033 Speaker 2: I can't wait for Emily Henry to write Sarah's story 940 00:37:39,114 --> 00:37:43,393 Speaker 2: of police or we'll write to Emily Henry as we're 941 00:37:43,394 --> 00:37:46,033 Speaker 2: going to like present day. You see Poppy has gone 942 00:37:46,114 --> 00:37:49,674 Speaker 2: to Barcelona to spend time with Alex. Now in the 943 00:37:49,794 --> 00:37:51,754 Speaker 2: book again, I'm gonna stop saying that, I promise, but 944 00:37:51,794 --> 00:37:54,674 Speaker 2: I think this one's important because in the book, she's 945 00:37:54,754 --> 00:37:57,554 Speaker 2: not invited to the wedding because she has not spoken 946 00:37:57,594 --> 00:37:59,314 Speaker 2: to the entire family in the two years. 947 00:37:59,314 --> 00:38:02,714 Speaker 1: Why would David invite his brother's friend he sees once 948 00:38:02,754 --> 00:38:04,034 Speaker 1: a year to his wedding. 949 00:38:03,794 --> 00:38:05,873 Speaker 2: Who he also hasn't talked to her years. So in 950 00:38:05,994 --> 00:38:08,473 Speaker 2: the movie, she acted she's thinking of Alex. She goes 951 00:38:08,474 --> 00:38:10,873 Speaker 2: to type of text and then she goes to delete it, 952 00:38:11,234 --> 00:38:13,074 Speaker 2: and then she accidentally sends it. So then they have 953 00:38:13,154 --> 00:38:15,473 Speaker 2: a text back and forth and he tells her about 954 00:38:15,474 --> 00:38:18,354 Speaker 2: the wedding and then she gets invited, but she wants 955 00:38:18,394 --> 00:38:20,954 Speaker 2: to spend more time with him, so she lies and 956 00:38:21,074 --> 00:38:23,554 Speaker 2: says that she's going on a work trip to Palm Springs, 957 00:38:24,154 --> 00:38:26,554 Speaker 2: And so they have a whole week together, just the 958 00:38:26,634 --> 00:38:28,714 Speaker 2: two of them in Palm Springs, staying in the same 959 00:38:28,794 --> 00:38:29,873 Speaker 2: hotel room. What. 960 00:38:30,714 --> 00:38:32,474 Speaker 3: Yeah, doesn't that change the story. 961 00:38:32,594 --> 00:38:33,714 Speaker 1: That's a whole different story. 962 00:38:33,834 --> 00:38:36,714 Speaker 3: It's a whole different story, and it's a whole Yeah. 963 00:38:36,754 --> 00:38:38,794 Speaker 2: So they're like sleeping in the same bed nearly every 964 00:38:38,874 --> 00:38:40,434 Speaker 2: night for a week leading up to the wedding. 965 00:38:40,834 --> 00:38:41,953 Speaker 1: And were they just having sex? 966 00:38:42,194 --> 00:38:44,754 Speaker 2: Not until the end, like so the same in the book, 967 00:38:44,914 --> 00:38:46,674 Speaker 2: like the end, just before the wedding, they have sex. 968 00:38:46,794 --> 00:38:50,514 Speaker 1: There's no way, So there's no way that would happen. 969 00:38:50,714 --> 00:38:53,154 Speaker 2: So we have a there's a few changes have been made, 970 00:38:53,234 --> 00:38:54,953 Speaker 2: I guess we can talk about now. When they're at 971 00:38:54,994 --> 00:38:57,274 Speaker 2: the wedding. So in Barcelona, you kind of see them 972 00:38:57,314 --> 00:38:59,034 Speaker 2: hanging it out of it together. You see them kind 973 00:38:59,074 --> 00:39:01,473 Speaker 2: of like find each other again, and you see them 974 00:39:01,514 --> 00:39:05,993 Speaker 2: have a kiss, and it's in further they've had sex, right, Yeah, 975 00:39:06,314 --> 00:39:08,953 Speaker 2: it's that classic of like they kiss, they fall onto 976 00:39:08,994 --> 00:39:10,194 Speaker 2: the bear, they grasp each other. 977 00:39:10,354 --> 00:39:12,434 Speaker 1: Yeah. Cut to the next morning when they're lying together 978 00:39:12,554 --> 00:39:15,393 Speaker 1: half naked. Can I tell you I don't want to 979 00:39:15,434 --> 00:39:15,914 Speaker 1: stop set you. 980 00:39:16,354 --> 00:39:19,194 Speaker 2: In the book, that sex scene is wild and goes 981 00:39:19,234 --> 00:39:21,954 Speaker 2: on a very long time, and the build up to 982 00:39:22,034 --> 00:39:22,714 Speaker 2: it is so intense. 983 00:39:22,754 --> 00:39:23,714 Speaker 1: I want to read it right now. 984 00:39:23,914 --> 00:39:25,913 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go get We just leave and go get 985 00:39:25,994 --> 00:39:28,634 Speaker 2: the book. So in the book, they've been in this 986 00:39:28,714 --> 00:39:30,913 Speaker 2: hotel room. The air conditioning is broken, which is kind 987 00:39:30,914 --> 00:39:32,393 Speaker 2: of alluding to the movie, but in the book it's 988 00:39:32,434 --> 00:39:35,433 Speaker 2: so much worse. They can't breathe. He's hurt his back 989 00:39:35,514 --> 00:39:37,914 Speaker 2: so badly. He's bed bound for like a few days. 990 00:39:38,194 --> 00:39:41,314 Speaker 2: Things are going terribly. They're having fights with their airbnb guy. 991 00:39:41,634 --> 00:39:44,514 Speaker 2: It's like the tension it's building. It's building, it's building 992 00:39:44,634 --> 00:39:46,754 Speaker 2: is building. Finally they go out and try and have 993 00:39:46,834 --> 00:39:49,114 Speaker 2: this like one last day because of their last day before, 994 00:39:49,154 --> 00:39:52,994 Speaker 2: like the wedding festivity start terrible. Well, he's on painkillers 995 00:39:52,994 --> 00:39:54,594 Speaker 2: at stage, and so they can't actually do anything and 996 00:39:54,634 --> 00:39:57,234 Speaker 2: they have an awful time. They're both so upset because 997 00:39:57,594 --> 00:39:59,473 Speaker 2: in her head, this is like, this is our last chance. 998 00:39:59,514 --> 00:40:01,634 Speaker 2: Because in the book, you're in Poppy's head the whole 999 00:40:01,674 --> 00:40:03,274 Speaker 2: way through pretty much, so you're getting hurs out of 1000 00:40:03,314 --> 00:40:03,634 Speaker 2: the story. 1001 00:40:04,034 --> 00:40:05,674 Speaker 1: And then they get out to the room and they. 1002 00:40:05,594 --> 00:40:09,154 Speaker 2: Just start having this explosi fight, which turns into them 1003 00:40:09,194 --> 00:40:11,354 Speaker 2: having this hot kiss. And you know how in the 1004 00:40:11,474 --> 00:40:14,634 Speaker 2: movie the balcony is all like raining yeah, and it's 1005 00:40:14,674 --> 00:40:15,314 Speaker 2: all shut. 1006 00:40:16,714 --> 00:40:18,034 Speaker 1: With yeah. 1007 00:40:18,154 --> 00:40:19,913 Speaker 2: So in the movie, she runs out and again it's 1008 00:40:19,914 --> 00:40:22,314 Speaker 2: starting to rain. They start ripping at all the tarps 1009 00:40:22,714 --> 00:40:24,994 Speaker 2: and he comes up there and they have this like wild, 1010 00:40:25,154 --> 00:40:28,154 Speaker 2: full sex scene on the tarps outside with the rain 1011 00:40:28,234 --> 00:40:30,873 Speaker 2: coming up, and they even talk like in between it, 1012 00:40:30,994 --> 00:40:32,674 Speaker 2: like they it's just the whole thing is like at 1013 00:40:32,714 --> 00:40:34,513 Speaker 2: one point when they're just like making out and he's 1014 00:40:34,554 --> 00:40:36,314 Speaker 2: going down on her for like ages and then they 1015 00:40:36,394 --> 00:40:39,154 Speaker 2: have sex and it's this whole really steamy scene and 1016 00:40:39,194 --> 00:40:41,674 Speaker 2: they're also talking about like it's also important to the 1017 00:40:41,714 --> 00:40:44,594 Speaker 2: plot because they're sharing information about how long they wanted 1018 00:40:44,634 --> 00:40:46,954 Speaker 2: each other and all these different things and how in 1019 00:40:47,034 --> 00:40:48,674 Speaker 2: love they are and everything. So we have that and 1020 00:40:48,794 --> 00:40:50,513 Speaker 2: here's I'm going to tell you something that's gonna upset 1021 00:40:50,554 --> 00:40:54,314 Speaker 2: you so much. They filmed that scene. That scene exists 1022 00:40:54,394 --> 00:40:57,314 Speaker 2: out in the world, and the reason we didn't see it, 1023 00:40:57,874 --> 00:40:59,674 Speaker 2: and I've never I don't shut up. 1024 00:40:59,874 --> 00:41:00,994 Speaker 3: I don't usually hate people. 1025 00:41:01,514 --> 00:41:04,074 Speaker 2: I don't hate people except the people who were in 1026 00:41:04,154 --> 00:41:07,114 Speaker 2: the test audiences for people we meet on vacation. 1027 00:41:07,474 --> 00:41:10,714 Speaker 1: Those those people watch those wild sex and they said 1028 00:41:10,754 --> 00:41:11,714 Speaker 1: too jarring. 1029 00:41:11,834 --> 00:41:14,433 Speaker 3: They said, shut up, doesn't make sense, give me names. 1030 00:41:16,874 --> 00:41:19,914 Speaker 3: Come on, I'm sorry, call the police. You can't do that. 1031 00:41:20,594 --> 00:41:22,194 Speaker 3: They all got cut from the movie. 1032 00:41:23,114 --> 00:41:23,554 Speaker 2: I know. 1033 00:41:23,954 --> 00:41:25,194 Speaker 3: Isn't that the worst thing? 1034 00:41:25,394 --> 00:41:25,434 Speaker 2: No? 1035 00:41:25,634 --> 00:41:25,834 Speaker 1: I know. 1036 00:41:26,034 --> 00:41:31,194 Speaker 3: Wait, Emily, and that's what we end the pod here. 1037 00:41:31,394 --> 00:41:35,754 Speaker 1: So much for listening to this today. Spillers reduced. It's 1038 00:41:35,794 --> 00:41:38,794 Speaker 1: time production mascotstronic so upset. 1039 00:41:39,154 --> 00:41:41,034 Speaker 3: So Emily say you on Monday dance again. 1040 00:41:41,114 --> 00:41:42,474 Speaker 1: We have morning tea on Monday. 1041 00:41:43,314 --> 00:41:46,354 Speaker 3: Emily's left, your soul has left your body. 1042 00:41:47,474 --> 00:41:49,714 Speaker 2: That scene between those two So when you're saying, I 1043 00:41:49,754 --> 00:41:50,634 Speaker 2: don't believe they're in large. 1044 00:41:53,394 --> 00:41:54,873 Speaker 3: So that's why at the top of the movie when 1045 00:41:54,914 --> 00:41:56,434 Speaker 3: you asked me if they had chemistry, I was like, 1046 00:41:56,594 --> 00:41:58,114 Speaker 3: I didn't want to answer because I was like, I 1047 00:41:58,314 --> 00:42:00,873 Speaker 3: do think they had chemistry in the cut scenes that 1048 00:42:00,994 --> 00:42:01,913 Speaker 3: we didn't get to see. 1049 00:42:02,074 --> 00:42:04,714 Speaker 1: Not even jerking that scene would have made the whole 1050 00:42:04,754 --> 00:42:05,074 Speaker 1: movie for. 1051 00:42:05,154 --> 00:42:08,314 Speaker 2: Me, because the thing is, again, they trade information that 1052 00:42:08,394 --> 00:42:10,594 Speaker 2: scene like, yes they have hot, steamy sex, Yes, they 1053 00:42:10,674 --> 00:42:12,794 Speaker 2: rip each other's clothes off, they destroy the balcony, the 1054 00:42:12,874 --> 00:42:15,194 Speaker 2: rains coming down, like it's all sexy, but it's this 1055 00:42:15,394 --> 00:42:17,794 Speaker 2: moment of like, it's all the tension build up from 1056 00:42:17,794 --> 00:42:20,073 Speaker 2: them being in that hotel room for the week living. 1057 00:42:20,594 --> 00:42:22,473 Speaker 1: And they could have done that scene if they cut 1058 00:42:22,554 --> 00:42:23,234 Speaker 1: the well scene. 1059 00:42:25,754 --> 00:42:28,994 Speaker 2: Yeah again, over that whole overnight in the hotel. It 1060 00:42:29,114 --> 00:42:30,954 Speaker 2: was added to make up for this whole week that 1061 00:42:31,034 --> 00:42:33,354 Speaker 2: we don't see between them in the lead up to 1062 00:42:33,394 --> 00:42:35,794 Speaker 2: the wedding. So Emily's Henry has been asked about this 1063 00:42:35,914 --> 00:42:38,074 Speaker 2: so much. The sex sceeds because that is being part 1064 00:42:38,074 --> 00:42:39,274 Speaker 2: of why people love this book. 1065 00:42:39,394 --> 00:42:41,674 Speaker 1: They're like that and all of Emily Henry books, And 1066 00:42:41,754 --> 00:42:43,393 Speaker 1: I'm like, does that mean none of the books will 1067 00:42:43,394 --> 00:42:44,154 Speaker 1: have any of their te I. 1068 00:42:44,114 --> 00:42:47,794 Speaker 2: Don't know, all great sex stad and different test audience, 1069 00:42:47,874 --> 00:42:48,594 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. 1070 00:42:48,914 --> 00:42:50,433 Speaker 1: And test audio are they just people who? 1071 00:42:50,674 --> 00:42:52,194 Speaker 2: You know? Why who else can go to a test 1072 00:42:52,234 --> 00:42:54,354 Speaker 2: scredy at like eleven o'clock on a Tuesday. Sorry, real 1073 00:42:54,394 --> 00:42:57,034 Speaker 2: people have jobs. Those people have nothing to do. Ruined 1074 00:42:57,074 --> 00:42:59,074 Speaker 2: it for everyone. So Emily Henry got asked about this 1075 00:42:59,114 --> 00:43:01,554 Speaker 2: a lot because the movie came out in every interviewer 1076 00:43:01,634 --> 00:43:04,354 Speaker 2: because all the interviewers love the books which is like, hey, 1077 00:43:04,754 --> 00:43:07,513 Speaker 2: just one question, where's all the sex scenes, because there's 1078 00:43:07,514 --> 00:43:09,714 Speaker 2: other ones up, like they have sex multiple times after 1079 00:43:09,834 --> 00:43:12,354 Speaker 2: that as well. That I do believe they filmed that. 1080 00:43:12,554 --> 00:43:14,834 Speaker 2: We also didn't see. You only get like this little 1081 00:43:14,914 --> 00:43:17,674 Speaker 2: like kiss and bed kind of situation. And so Emily 1082 00:43:17,794 --> 00:43:19,754 Speaker 2: Henry she talked to a variety about it, and she said, 1083 00:43:19,794 --> 00:43:22,514 Speaker 2: here's what I'll say. I saw the scene and it 1084 00:43:22,634 --> 00:43:24,114 Speaker 2: was gorgeous and perfect. 1085 00:43:24,874 --> 00:43:26,034 Speaker 3: I was like, girl, shut up. 1086 00:43:27,314 --> 00:43:29,554 Speaker 2: Then she says, I actually feel a little bit guilty. 1087 00:43:29,714 --> 00:43:31,554 Speaker 2: This is Emily Henry talking of the sex scene that 1088 00:43:31,594 --> 00:43:33,473 Speaker 2: we will never get to see. She said, I feel 1089 00:43:33,474 --> 00:43:35,154 Speaker 2: a bit guilty because I went and told all my 1090 00:43:35,274 --> 00:43:37,873 Speaker 2: friends it's one of the sexiest sex scenes. 1091 00:43:37,594 --> 00:43:39,514 Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life. 1092 00:43:40,034 --> 00:43:41,354 Speaker 2: I don't know if you can hear this next bit. 1093 00:43:41,794 --> 00:43:44,954 Speaker 2: She said, genuinely, it was like Titanic level to me. 1094 00:43:45,434 --> 00:43:48,034 Speaker 1: It was so good. It was so raw and tender. 1095 00:43:48,834 --> 00:43:50,634 Speaker 2: But then she said the director got the feedback from 1096 00:43:50,674 --> 00:43:53,433 Speaker 2: the audience and that it stole the story too much. 1097 00:43:54,674 --> 00:43:56,634 Speaker 1: They have to release a special cut. 1098 00:43:56,954 --> 00:43:59,914 Speaker 3: One hundred percent release the cut. It'll go even bigger 1099 00:44:00,034 --> 00:44:01,074 Speaker 3: number one on Netflix. 1100 00:44:01,194 --> 00:44:01,794 Speaker 1: I will do another. 1101 00:44:02,394 --> 00:44:04,393 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I do think people tuned in to watch 1102 00:44:04,394 --> 00:44:05,834 Speaker 2: it because I thought it was going to be in there, 1103 00:44:06,594 --> 00:44:09,513 Speaker 2: I assume because I haven't read the book, but every 1104 00:44:09,554 --> 00:44:12,514 Speaker 2: book of hers has And You're right, like all of 1105 00:44:12,554 --> 00:44:14,873 Speaker 2: the sex scenes Emily Henry Wright is not just about 1106 00:44:14,914 --> 00:44:17,114 Speaker 2: the sex, but it's like a coming together of these 1107 00:44:17,154 --> 00:44:19,674 Speaker 2: two people who had initially just had like this big 1108 00:44:19,874 --> 00:44:20,913 Speaker 2: like collapse or this. 1109 00:44:21,034 --> 00:44:24,114 Speaker 1: Breakup moment, and they come together and then they talk 1110 00:44:24,234 --> 00:44:26,954 Speaker 1: throughout it, and it's like so for the woman and 1111 00:44:27,074 --> 00:44:29,634 Speaker 1: like she's finally getting what she's wanted this whole time. 1112 00:44:30,154 --> 00:44:31,594 Speaker 1: And I just thought this book didn't have that. I 1113 00:44:31,674 --> 00:44:33,794 Speaker 1: just thought the book it was a different line to say. 1114 00:44:33,914 --> 00:44:36,674 Speaker 2: This party line that everyone in Hollywood trots out is like, oh, 1115 00:44:36,714 --> 00:44:38,354 Speaker 2: I'll do nudity in a sex scene if it's for 1116 00:44:38,434 --> 00:44:39,433 Speaker 2: the story, if it's for the. 1117 00:44:39,434 --> 00:44:41,314 Speaker 1: Plot, And I'm like, well, this was for the plot, 1118 00:44:41,714 --> 00:44:42,393 Speaker 1: and where was it? 1119 00:44:42,674 --> 00:44:44,954 Speaker 2: So then she went on to say, yes, people in 1120 00:44:45,034 --> 00:44:47,953 Speaker 2: the test screenings who weren't familiar with the books again 1121 00:44:47,994 --> 00:44:49,794 Speaker 2: because maybe the people who went to the test screening 1122 00:44:49,834 --> 00:44:52,033 Speaker 2: don't know how to read, said it was too much 1123 00:44:52,074 --> 00:44:54,154 Speaker 2: of a hard right turn in the movie. 1124 00:44:54,354 --> 00:44:56,674 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, have you ever seen a romcon before. I'm 1125 00:44:56,754 --> 00:44:57,754 Speaker 3: so worried for these people. 1126 00:44:57,794 --> 00:45:00,274 Speaker 2: I both hate them and want to help them, like 1127 00:45:00,714 --> 00:45:02,754 Speaker 2: what is going on in their lives that they've never 1128 00:45:02,834 --> 00:45:06,953 Speaker 2: seen this before. And so the director, he's like, well, 1129 00:45:07,154 --> 00:45:08,994 Speaker 2: here's where I kind of also blame Emily Henry. I 1130 00:45:08,994 --> 00:45:10,634 Speaker 2: don't want to drag her into this, and we don't 1131 00:45:10,634 --> 00:45:13,034 Speaker 2: want to be we Hate women podcast. But the director 1132 00:45:13,114 --> 00:45:15,634 Speaker 2: said to her, how important is seeing the sex scene 1133 00:45:15,674 --> 00:45:17,754 Speaker 2: to you and your readers, And she said, I think 1134 00:45:17,794 --> 00:45:19,634 Speaker 2: it's kind of important in a way because it's something 1135 00:45:19,674 --> 00:45:23,274 Speaker 2: we're destigmatizing. But ultimately, my opinion would be that if 1136 00:45:23,314 --> 00:45:24,953 Speaker 2: it doesn't fit in the movie, then it doesn't work. 1137 00:45:25,034 --> 00:45:27,474 Speaker 2: And I had to serve the larger movie, and I 1138 00:45:27,514 --> 00:45:29,354 Speaker 2: don't want people to feel like they were jolted out 1139 00:45:29,354 --> 00:45:29,514 Speaker 2: of the. 1140 00:45:29,554 --> 00:45:33,274 Speaker 1: Story into a different movie. So that's pretty upsetting. 1141 00:45:33,474 --> 00:45:35,194 Speaker 2: There's a few times where I think she have a 1142 00:45:35,274 --> 00:45:37,994 Speaker 2: gun to her head when I think she was probably 1143 00:45:38,034 --> 00:45:39,074 Speaker 2: like I'm doing more with Netflix. 1144 00:45:39,114 --> 00:45:39,914 Speaker 1: I can't say anything. 1145 00:45:40,074 --> 00:45:43,634 Speaker 2: So I do ultimately think that might have impacted how 1146 00:45:44,034 --> 00:45:45,514 Speaker 2: not just for the sex scene, but just for the 1147 00:45:45,554 --> 00:45:47,034 Speaker 2: whole lead up to it. Because obviously we know that 1148 00:45:47,114 --> 00:45:48,873 Speaker 2: Poppy and Alex do have sex. They start to fall 1149 00:45:48,914 --> 00:45:51,514 Speaker 2: in love, they go to the wedding, everything's lovey dovey. 1150 00:45:51,914 --> 00:45:53,834 Speaker 2: I feel like they kind of like almost made Alex 1151 00:45:53,914 --> 00:45:56,913 Speaker 2: a little bit too vanilla in the book, because again, 1152 00:45:57,154 --> 00:45:59,033 Speaker 2: in the sex scene in the book that we'll never see, 1153 00:45:59,754 --> 00:46:02,473 Speaker 2: that's when he really confesses all the times he's been 1154 00:46:02,514 --> 00:46:04,433 Speaker 2: in love with her and desperately wanted to have sex 1155 00:46:04,514 --> 00:46:07,634 Speaker 2: with her, including this page of the book Live Rent 1156 00:46:07,674 --> 00:46:09,354 Speaker 2: Free in my head. You know the scene where he 1157 00:46:09,434 --> 00:46:10,873 Speaker 2: goes to look after her and they're supposed to go 1158 00:46:10,874 --> 00:46:12,674 Speaker 2: to norwayn Oh, and you can't surprise her at New 1159 00:46:12,754 --> 00:46:15,474 Speaker 2: York and she's yeah, and she's got the flukes. In 1160 00:46:15,554 --> 00:46:18,033 Speaker 2: the book, she's got pneumonia and she's like so sick 1161 00:46:18,154 --> 00:46:20,314 Speaker 2: she doesn't get out of bed for three days. And 1162 00:46:20,714 --> 00:46:23,834 Speaker 2: when he arrives in her apartment, like she's basically unconscious 1163 00:46:24,234 --> 00:46:25,674 Speaker 2: to the point where she hasn't got out of bed 1164 00:46:25,714 --> 00:46:27,234 Speaker 2: for three days, so she's wet the bed and she's 1165 00:46:27,274 --> 00:46:29,634 Speaker 2: like living in her own filth and like she's so sick. 1166 00:46:30,074 --> 00:46:31,873 Speaker 1: So he no, no, he does. 1167 00:46:31,954 --> 00:46:34,074 Speaker 2: He takes her to like an urgent care and then 1168 00:46:34,074 --> 00:46:36,634 Speaker 2: he also has to like shower her and everything in 1169 00:46:36,674 --> 00:46:39,034 Speaker 2: the book, it's so intense. And then when they're just 1170 00:46:39,154 --> 00:46:40,873 Speaker 2: after they've had sex and they're talking about how much 1171 00:46:40,874 --> 00:46:43,074 Speaker 2: they wanted each other for so long. She was like, 1172 00:46:43,154 --> 00:46:45,154 Speaker 2: I wanted you when you were like looking after me 1173 00:46:45,194 --> 00:46:47,194 Speaker 2: when I had pneumonia. And he's like every morning that 1174 00:46:47,234 --> 00:46:48,794 Speaker 2: I woke up and looked at you. I nearly came 1175 00:46:48,954 --> 00:46:50,234 Speaker 2: and I was like, I'm sorry. 1176 00:46:50,394 --> 00:46:59,433 Speaker 4: What, I'm sorry. I had to re read it because 1177 00:46:59,434 --> 00:47:01,754 Speaker 4: I was watching are you talking about when she was 1178 00:47:02,554 --> 00:47:03,514 Speaker 4: in bed. 1179 00:47:03,594 --> 00:47:06,234 Speaker 2: In her like soiled sheets and you had to lift 1180 00:47:06,314 --> 00:47:08,794 Speaker 2: her up? And then the whole time he's lying next 1181 00:47:08,834 --> 00:47:10,913 Speaker 2: to her, he's giving her like he's like checking her 1182 00:47:10,954 --> 00:47:13,474 Speaker 2: fever night and giving her medication, like he's like spoon 1183 00:47:13,594 --> 00:47:15,954 Speaker 2: feeding her. She can't lift her arms, And I was like, 1184 00:47:16,154 --> 00:47:18,114 Speaker 2: when you read that the book, I was like, oh 1185 00:47:18,194 --> 00:47:19,513 Speaker 2: my god, I love this man so much. 1186 00:47:19,554 --> 00:47:21,194 Speaker 3: Oh he's so lovely. I don't even care if they're 1187 00:47:21,194 --> 00:47:21,554 Speaker 3: not in love. 1188 00:47:21,634 --> 00:47:22,393 Speaker 1: What a lovely man. 1189 00:47:22,754 --> 00:47:25,234 Speaker 2: And then afterwards, when they've had the wild balcony sex 1190 00:47:25,314 --> 00:47:27,393 Speaker 2: and he's telling her all the times he's wanted her 1191 00:47:27,434 --> 00:47:29,154 Speaker 2: and been in love with her, that's what he says, 1192 00:47:29,234 --> 00:47:30,714 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my god, that whole seed 1193 00:47:30,914 --> 00:47:32,834 Speaker 2: is all of a sudden disgusting in my head, because 1194 00:47:32,874 --> 00:47:34,194 Speaker 2: what do you mean you had an erection? 1195 00:47:34,354 --> 00:47:36,554 Speaker 3: More, you were like spoon feeding her soup. 1196 00:47:37,394 --> 00:47:39,714 Speaker 2: I understand that's how men work, but they say it 1197 00:47:39,914 --> 00:47:42,674 Speaker 2: like that, I nearly came every time I woke up 1198 00:47:42,714 --> 00:47:43,794 Speaker 2: next to you in your sick bed. 1199 00:47:44,954 --> 00:47:48,754 Speaker 3: It's like, I just think that that really Again, that's 1200 00:47:48,794 --> 00:47:50,554 Speaker 3: Alex's character, and I just think they made him. 1201 00:47:50,794 --> 00:47:52,154 Speaker 2: That was creepy in the book, but at least it 1202 00:47:52,234 --> 00:47:54,914 Speaker 2: was his character, right, Yeah, in the movie they stripped 1203 00:47:54,954 --> 00:47:55,714 Speaker 2: all that away from him. 1204 00:47:55,834 --> 00:47:58,513 Speaker 1: Oh I'm glad he didn't say that because I didn't 1205 00:47:58,514 --> 00:47:59,314 Speaker 1: even have sex. 1206 00:47:59,714 --> 00:48:01,354 Speaker 3: She would have just said it in the rain, I 1207 00:48:01,474 --> 00:48:05,953 Speaker 3: was like talking about a shark writer a sharp right 1208 00:48:06,034 --> 00:48:06,953 Speaker 3: turned to one kiss. 1209 00:48:07,634 --> 00:48:09,473 Speaker 2: But again, in the book, they just had wild sex 1210 00:48:09,474 --> 00:48:11,834 Speaker 2: and they were having more sex, so like that felt okay, 1211 00:48:12,594 --> 00:48:15,154 Speaker 2: it felt fine, Okay, heat of the moment, the heat 1212 00:48:15,194 --> 00:48:16,873 Speaker 2: of the moment exactly so. And they go to the wedding. 1213 00:48:16,874 --> 00:48:18,594 Speaker 2: We're back to the movie. Now, we've got to lay 1214 00:48:18,634 --> 00:48:22,433 Speaker 2: this plane. Guys, they're at the wedding. They're so in love, 1215 00:48:22,594 --> 00:48:24,714 Speaker 2: it's so cute. We can't even get into any of 1216 00:48:24,714 --> 00:48:26,594 Speaker 2: the side characters because we've spent too much time going 1217 00:48:26,634 --> 00:48:28,834 Speaker 2: back and forth on the book. And then this is 1218 00:48:28,834 --> 00:48:30,754 Speaker 2: when they had their first moment of like they're on 1219 00:48:30,874 --> 00:48:34,234 Speaker 2: different pages still because Alex thinks that she's all it 1220 00:48:34,314 --> 00:48:37,154 Speaker 2: and they're going to be together forever, and she kind 1221 00:48:37,154 --> 00:48:39,393 Speaker 2: of rightly almost I'm team copy on this one. 1222 00:48:39,554 --> 00:48:41,354 Speaker 3: Yeah, is like, let's just take a minute. 1223 00:48:41,434 --> 00:48:41,993 Speaker 1: This is a lot. 1224 00:48:42,594 --> 00:48:45,234 Speaker 2: A week ago, we weren't even speaking and now you're like, 1225 00:48:45,434 --> 00:48:47,154 Speaker 2: we're going to be together for over, Let's get married 1226 00:48:47,154 --> 00:48:47,674 Speaker 2: and live in a house. 1227 00:48:47,714 --> 00:48:50,953 Speaker 1: And until then we've had very separate lives and we've 1228 00:48:50,994 --> 00:48:53,514 Speaker 1: been very vocal on how we want to live the 1229 00:48:53,594 --> 00:48:55,554 Speaker 1: rest of our lives. Like he's always wanted to be 1230 00:48:55,634 --> 00:48:57,794 Speaker 1: like a homebody, like back in where he grew up 1231 00:48:58,154 --> 00:49:00,873 Speaker 1: in a house in a home, and she's always wanted 1232 00:49:00,914 --> 00:49:02,754 Speaker 1: to travel around and live in New York and do 1233 00:49:02,874 --> 00:49:04,953 Speaker 1: this job and like not be tied down to one 1234 00:49:04,994 --> 00:49:05,953 Speaker 1: single place. Yeah. 1235 00:49:06,394 --> 00:49:08,714 Speaker 2: So yeah, different things they want from each other. So 1236 00:49:08,714 --> 00:49:11,393 Speaker 2: I have that conversation. He essentially tells her that he 1237 00:49:11,434 --> 00:49:13,714 Speaker 2: can't be with her in this situation, which is when 1238 00:49:13,794 --> 00:49:15,954 Speaker 2: she flies back to New York, has the meeting with 1239 00:49:16,034 --> 00:49:18,594 Speaker 2: Sarah in the airport, where she kind of realizes and. 1240 00:49:18,674 --> 00:49:19,314 Speaker 3: Then goes back in. 1241 00:49:19,394 --> 00:49:20,834 Speaker 2: And this is kind of interesting because then she goes 1242 00:49:20,874 --> 00:49:24,513 Speaker 2: back and like changes her life, leaves her job, which 1243 00:49:24,554 --> 00:49:26,154 Speaker 2: is I do love when Jimila Jimmeil. I know that's 1244 00:49:26,154 --> 00:49:27,834 Speaker 2: not her name, but that's just what it is. Like, 1245 00:49:27,954 --> 00:49:29,794 Speaker 2: Oh no, don't worry, like a thousand people want this job. 1246 00:49:29,834 --> 00:49:31,834 Speaker 3: You can go gol, which is so true. 1247 00:49:32,354 --> 00:49:34,714 Speaker 2: And she rebuilds her life and then she flies to 1248 00:49:34,834 --> 00:49:38,393 Speaker 2: Lynnfield to tell Alex how she feels. So this is 1249 00:49:38,394 --> 00:49:40,314 Speaker 2: the last time I'll say this in the book. Okay, 1250 00:49:40,914 --> 00:49:43,514 Speaker 2: it's a kind of different situation because she goes to school. 1251 00:49:43,514 --> 00:49:45,354 Speaker 2: That's when she and Sarah have the back and forth. 1252 00:49:45,634 --> 00:49:47,794 Speaker 2: And then Sarah as her being kind of a mission 1253 00:49:47,834 --> 00:49:51,074 Speaker 2: to Poppy of like I forgive you you guys be together, 1254 00:49:51,154 --> 00:49:54,154 Speaker 2: like as in giving her blessing, tells Poppy where Alex is, 1255 00:49:54,594 --> 00:49:56,154 Speaker 2: which is at a bar across the road with some 1256 00:49:56,234 --> 00:49:59,234 Speaker 2: other teachers. So Poppy goes over there and she delivers 1257 00:49:59,274 --> 00:50:01,674 Speaker 2: that hole I love you, you are my home, You're 1258 00:50:01,714 --> 00:50:04,234 Speaker 2: my everything to him in the bar where I'm just 1259 00:50:04,274 --> 00:50:07,834 Speaker 2: assuming all the teachers are watching, so I. 1260 00:50:07,874 --> 00:50:09,754 Speaker 1: Always like, maybe they're like a public proposal. 1261 00:50:10,114 --> 00:50:12,234 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he rejects her, and she runs outside 1262 00:50:12,274 --> 00:50:13,433 Speaker 2: to cry and he chases her. 1263 00:50:14,034 --> 00:50:16,594 Speaker 3: He rejects herge He initially kinds like, I can't get 1264 00:50:16,634 --> 00:50:18,194 Speaker 3: here the embarrassment, my friend. 1265 00:50:18,354 --> 00:50:20,074 Speaker 2: He's like, I'm actually in the middle of something because 1266 00:50:20,114 --> 00:50:21,954 Speaker 2: she went to that school with her old teachers, like 1267 00:50:22,074 --> 00:50:24,873 Speaker 2: watching happening. And then she runs out to the car 1268 00:50:24,954 --> 00:50:28,314 Speaker 2: and he chases her. So he chases her, which is 1269 00:50:28,394 --> 00:50:30,794 Speaker 2: very different because in the movie she goes to his 1270 00:50:30,954 --> 00:50:31,994 Speaker 2: dead grandmother's house that he. 1271 00:50:32,034 --> 00:50:37,194 Speaker 1: Now lives in. Yeah, it's nice house in a nice house. 1272 00:50:37,234 --> 00:50:39,794 Speaker 2: Well done, buddy, and he's going for a run because 1273 00:50:39,914 --> 00:50:42,114 Speaker 2: his only personality trait is that he rings. 1274 00:50:42,794 --> 00:50:45,354 Speaker 1: Honestly, it's not far fetched from most men. 1275 00:50:45,634 --> 00:50:45,834 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1276 00:50:46,034 --> 00:50:47,794 Speaker 1: But again in the book, he's like a writer and 1277 00:50:47,874 --> 00:50:48,553 Speaker 1: he does all these others. 1278 00:50:48,554 --> 00:50:50,714 Speaker 2: He's a writer, diiction writer, that's what he wants to be, 1279 00:50:51,154 --> 00:50:53,394 Speaker 2: and he has all these letters to him and apparently 1280 00:50:53,874 --> 00:50:56,714 Speaker 2: he could write Sarah's story and he's currently very turned 1281 00:50:56,754 --> 00:50:57,513 Speaker 2: on by dying women. 1282 00:51:00,114 --> 00:51:03,154 Speaker 1: And then we have this scene where Poppy chases Alex Yeah, 1283 00:51:03,154 --> 00:51:06,314 Speaker 1: and he can't hear her because he's wearing his head pods. Yeah, 1284 00:51:06,754 --> 00:51:08,394 Speaker 1: and she's like running after him and she's. 1285 00:51:08,234 --> 00:51:11,634 Speaker 3: Like Alex, Alex Alex. 1286 00:51:11,274 --> 00:51:13,794 Speaker 1: And she's run. She doesn't even run that far, honestly, well, 1287 00:51:13,834 --> 00:51:14,393 Speaker 1: just wanting to it. 1288 00:51:14,634 --> 00:51:17,034 Speaker 2: Her whole personality trait that they're setting up towards the 1289 00:51:17,154 --> 00:51:18,473 Speaker 2: end is I don't run, I don't run. 1290 00:51:18,554 --> 00:51:20,993 Speaker 3: I don't run, And she ran and then she ran 1291 00:51:21,074 --> 00:51:22,474 Speaker 3: for him. So it's so interesting. 1292 00:51:22,474 --> 00:51:25,914 Speaker 2: I was watching an interview with Emily Beta and Emily Henry, 1293 00:51:26,194 --> 00:51:28,393 Speaker 2: and in that interview, Emily Beata is saying that in 1294 00:51:28,474 --> 00:51:30,834 Speaker 2: between takes, she just kept running around the block they 1295 00:51:30,874 --> 00:51:33,354 Speaker 2: were filming on so that she would be so out 1296 00:51:33,394 --> 00:51:35,033 Speaker 2: of breath and frantic in real life. 1297 00:51:35,394 --> 00:51:36,433 Speaker 1: That's when she gets to him. 1298 00:51:36,674 --> 00:51:38,794 Speaker 2: Her face is like naturally read and she's like puffing 1299 00:51:38,914 --> 00:51:43,714 Speaker 2: because she made herself nearly choke. But also, she said, 1300 00:51:43,794 --> 00:51:47,234 Speaker 2: it's so interesting because her whole personality she runs from everything, 1301 00:51:47,634 --> 00:51:49,754 Speaker 2: like she runs from Alex, she runs from her hometown, 1302 00:51:50,114 --> 00:51:52,314 Speaker 2: she runs from relationships, she runs from her job. And 1303 00:51:52,434 --> 00:51:54,674 Speaker 2: running to Alex. It's such a big moment because it's 1304 00:51:54,674 --> 00:51:57,474 Speaker 2: the first time that she's running towards him, and Emily 1305 00:51:57,554 --> 00:51:59,034 Speaker 2: Henry goes, oh my god, I never even thought of that. 1306 00:51:59,194 --> 00:52:01,074 Speaker 3: Yeah, because obviously she didn't write that scene. 1307 00:52:01,514 --> 00:52:02,194 Speaker 1: She's like ahead the. 1308 00:52:02,194 --> 00:52:04,594 Speaker 2: Other one, and then they have their big moment on 1309 00:52:04,674 --> 00:52:07,714 Speaker 2: the intersection, on an intersection declaring their love for each other. 1310 00:52:07,754 --> 00:52:12,154 Speaker 2: What did you think, Yeah, fine, Emily, come on, these 1311 00:52:12,154 --> 00:52:14,834 Speaker 2: are your people, Emily Henry, Emily better, Emily Verda, you 1312 00:52:14,874 --> 00:52:16,354 Speaker 2: need to come together now. I was just. 1313 00:52:18,434 --> 00:52:20,594 Speaker 1: Emily need together, and I was like, yeah, I love 1314 00:52:20,674 --> 00:52:22,714 Speaker 1: those scenes, like I love those coming together scenes, but 1315 00:52:22,834 --> 00:52:24,194 Speaker 1: like I need to know logistics. 1316 00:52:24,554 --> 00:52:26,354 Speaker 3: But we get logistics because we have the little bit 1317 00:52:26,434 --> 00:52:28,354 Speaker 3: afterwards where they're both living in New York together and 1318 00:52:28,354 --> 00:52:30,314 Speaker 3: they're happy and their home is where they are together. 1319 00:52:30,434 --> 00:52:32,154 Speaker 1: But are they living New York together? Are they going 1320 00:52:32,194 --> 00:52:32,834 Speaker 1: back and forth? 1321 00:52:33,074 --> 00:52:33,114 Speaker 2: No? 1322 00:52:33,354 --> 00:52:36,433 Speaker 1: Because he's wearing a Sarah Lawrence sweatshirt so he's got 1323 00:52:36,474 --> 00:52:41,954 Speaker 1: a job again. Maybe because then they were on the plane. 1324 00:52:42,434 --> 00:52:44,474 Speaker 2: Yeah, because they now they only that's to show that 1325 00:52:44,554 --> 00:52:46,794 Speaker 2: they have a life that they're not trying to escape from. 1326 00:52:46,954 --> 00:52:49,714 Speaker 2: And now they only take holidays as like a special treat. 1327 00:52:49,954 --> 00:52:52,354 Speaker 2: They live for their life, They don't live for their holidays. 1328 00:52:53,714 --> 00:52:55,354 Speaker 1: Well no, because you know what, do you think? Definite 1329 00:52:55,354 --> 00:52:57,594 Speaker 1: about the movie now? But now that I thought they 1330 00:52:57,634 --> 00:53:00,474 Speaker 1: were like living in between New York and Ohio, now 1331 00:53:00,514 --> 00:53:02,314 Speaker 1: they were going back and forth from Betty. So they 1332 00:53:02,434 --> 00:53:04,634 Speaker 1: live in New York, which was concerning to me because 1333 00:53:04,634 --> 00:53:06,754 Speaker 1: then I saw they had a dog, and you can't 1334 00:53:07,154 --> 00:53:08,433 Speaker 1: keep your dog's flying all the time. 1335 00:53:08,594 --> 00:53:11,114 Speaker 3: No, So does that change taste in the movie now 1336 00:53:11,154 --> 00:53:11,914 Speaker 3: that you know what's happened? 1337 00:53:11,954 --> 00:53:14,154 Speaker 1: I mean, he's always wanted to be in her Ohio. 1338 00:53:15,154 --> 00:53:16,754 Speaker 2: No, but I think he also just he that was 1339 00:53:16,754 --> 00:53:19,434 Speaker 2: also like a fear well again again the again the 1340 00:53:19,514 --> 00:53:21,194 Speaker 2: last time I say this. In the book, there's this 1341 00:53:21,274 --> 00:53:23,514 Speaker 2: whole story about him being so scared to start a 1342 00:53:23,594 --> 00:53:26,354 Speaker 2: family or have a life or be with anyone because 1343 00:53:26,394 --> 00:53:28,314 Speaker 2: his mother died in childbirth and he was also like 1344 00:53:28,394 --> 00:53:30,514 Speaker 2: locked into raising all of his brothers that he like 1345 00:53:30,634 --> 00:53:31,474 Speaker 2: has a vaseectomy. 1346 00:53:31,874 --> 00:53:33,154 Speaker 1: They skipped over that in the movie. 1347 00:53:33,314 --> 00:53:38,754 Speaker 2: Oh okay again vasectomy coming over sick people, while change 1348 00:53:39,074 --> 00:53:41,314 Speaker 2: a lot of stuff that's been left. But no, no, 1349 00:53:41,794 --> 00:53:44,594 Speaker 2: the movie ends with them finding this place where they've 1350 00:53:44,674 --> 00:53:47,033 Speaker 2: kind of come together. Of that they have a home base, 1351 00:53:47,074 --> 00:53:49,234 Speaker 2: which is what he's always wanted, and they traveled together, 1352 00:53:49,234 --> 00:53:52,434 Speaker 2: which is what she's always Okay, do you like this 1353 00:53:52,554 --> 00:53:54,074 Speaker 2: movie now that I've explained the ending to you? 1354 00:53:55,754 --> 00:53:56,314 Speaker 3: No? I like that? 1355 00:53:56,714 --> 00:53:59,034 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well they didn't they there won't any like dialogue 1356 00:53:59,034 --> 00:54:01,034 Speaker 1: in those last few scenes. What you meant to take 1357 00:54:01,074 --> 00:54:02,953 Speaker 1: it in? I don't you need to able to watch? 1358 00:54:03,154 --> 00:54:06,593 Speaker 2: This is what I mean unique subtitled what saying, Dear Emily, 1359 00:54:06,674 --> 00:54:07,554 Speaker 2: this is what's here? 1360 00:54:08,634 --> 00:54:10,954 Speaker 1: Well, that is people we meet on vacation. What a 1361 00:54:11,034 --> 00:54:11,594 Speaker 1: wild ride? 1362 00:54:11,914 --> 00:54:13,554 Speaker 3: You know what. I might watch it again, I don't know. 1363 00:54:14,154 --> 00:54:16,714 Speaker 1: I think my issue, my main issue is I think 1364 00:54:16,754 --> 00:54:18,714 Speaker 1: it's because it was the first rom com I watched 1365 00:54:18,754 --> 00:54:20,393 Speaker 1: after Heated Rivalry. Oh. 1366 00:54:20,674 --> 00:54:23,674 Speaker 3: Yeah, the difference is just two starts. Well, Heat a 1367 00:54:23,794 --> 00:54:25,714 Speaker 3: Rivalry is like a ten out of ten, and like 1368 00:54:25,794 --> 00:54:28,914 Speaker 3: you can't compare them. Yeah, But also I don't know 1369 00:54:28,954 --> 00:54:29,554 Speaker 3: if we would. 1370 00:54:29,394 --> 00:54:31,034 Speaker 2: Have had the same sort of heat of rivalry if 1371 00:54:31,074 --> 00:54:33,474 Speaker 2: we had as a movie. So I do think that 1372 00:54:33,634 --> 00:54:35,754 Speaker 2: sometimes with the series you just do get to see 1373 00:54:36,434 --> 00:54:38,834 Speaker 2: more of the relationship bill. But also there's so many 1374 00:54:38,914 --> 00:54:42,154 Speaker 2: rom coms that I've watched in my lifetime, not from 1375 00:54:42,154 --> 00:54:45,073 Speaker 2: the last decade but previously where I do one hundred 1376 00:54:45,074 --> 00:54:47,154 Speaker 2: percent believe that people are in love in the movie, 1377 00:54:47,554 --> 00:54:48,473 Speaker 2: and so it can be done. 1378 00:54:48,554 --> 00:54:49,234 Speaker 1: It can be done. 1379 00:54:49,434 --> 00:54:52,074 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, release the sex scene. Yeah, and I'll 1380 00:54:52,154 --> 00:54:54,154 Speaker 2: change my review of this movie because my review is 1381 00:54:54,194 --> 00:54:57,954 Speaker 2: the book is great and the movie's fine, but you 1382 00:54:58,034 --> 00:54:59,474 Speaker 2: put that sexy back in there and that. 1383 00:54:59,514 --> 00:55:01,594 Speaker 1: Yeah, that well scene out. 1384 00:55:01,794 --> 00:55:03,393 Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, that's vibe. 1385 00:55:04,834 --> 00:55:07,554 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to this spill today. 1386 00:55:07,794 --> 00:55:10,634 Speaker 1: We do have a public holiday on Monday, but you 1387 00:55:10,754 --> 00:55:13,234 Speaker 1: will be getting one of our favorite episodes that we've 1388 00:55:13,274 --> 00:55:15,274 Speaker 1: ever done in case you missed. Plus there will be 1389 00:55:15,434 --> 00:55:17,954 Speaker 1: new Morning Tea with Ash London, so make sure you 1390 00:55:18,074 --> 00:55:20,634 Speaker 1: tune in for that. 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