WEBVTT - The PM Should've Checked His Angel Numbers 0:00:10.287 --> 0:00:13.047 You're listening to a Mamma Mia podcast. 0:00:13.727 --> 0:00:16.767 Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 0:00:16.807 --> 0:00:23.447 that this podcast is recorded on Hello and welcome to 0:00:23.527 --> 0:00:26.127 Mamma Mia out loud. It's what women are actually talking about. 0:00:26.167 --> 0:00:29.367 On Wednesday, the sixteenth of October. I'm Holly Waynwright and 0:00:29.407 --> 0:00:31.087 I am back from my holiday. 0:00:31.287 --> 0:00:34.287 I'm Jesse Stevens and I'm m Vernham filling in for 0:00:34.447 --> 0:00:36.767 mea today. You can normally hear me on our daily 0:00:36.887 --> 0:00:38.527 entertainment podcast The Spill. 0:00:38.727 --> 0:00:42.767 Clearly we have a one in one out I am, 0:00:44.767 --> 0:00:48.447 I came back and Mia fed off anyway, on the 0:00:48.487 --> 0:00:51.407 show today, we were looking for a Madam Finance, but 0:00:51.447 --> 0:00:54.047 he's not in the office today. What happened to women 0:00:54.127 --> 0:00:56.087 when one of the most macho work cultures in the 0:00:56.087 --> 0:00:59.647 world tried a four day work week? Also, the Prime 0:00:59.687 --> 0:01:02.607 Minister bought a very expensive house. You might have heard, 0:01:03.047 --> 0:01:06.207 so is this perfectly fine class betrayal. 0:01:05.927 --> 0:01:07.447 Or just a little quiet quit? 0:01:08.247 --> 0:01:11.327 Two two two four two three And don't try to 0:01:11.367 --> 0:01:14.487 make a five year a seven year, you idiot? Why 0:01:14.607 --> 0:01:17.327 number woo wu is so very hot right now? 0:01:17.527 --> 0:01:22.407 But first, the US has sent its strongest known written 0:01:22.447 --> 0:01:26.367 warning to Israel demanding Israel boost aid to Gaza or 0:01:26.487 --> 0:01:31.007 risk losing military support. The Biden administration sent this letter 0:01:31.007 --> 0:01:35.327 to Israeli leaders on Sunday, expressing their deep concerns about 0:01:35.367 --> 0:01:39.807 the deteriorating humanitarian situation. The letter referred to the Israeli 0:01:39.847 --> 0:01:44.767 government denying or impeding nearly ninety percent of humanitarian movements 0:01:44.847 --> 0:01:48.767 between northern and southern Gaza last month, and demanded that 0:01:48.807 --> 0:01:52.687 they take steps to improve conditions within thirty days. 0:01:53.327 --> 0:01:53.487 Now. 0:01:53.527 --> 0:01:55.807 The US is by far the biggest supplier of arms 0:01:55.807 --> 0:01:58.607 to Israel and their biggest ally, which makes this letter 0:01:58.927 --> 0:02:03.807 really significant. It's also only nineteen days until the presidential election. 0:02:04.487 --> 0:02:07.927 The warning comes amid a new Israeli offensive in northern Gaza, 0:02:08.047 --> 0:02:11.047 which has reportedly called caused a large number of civilian 0:02:11.047 --> 0:02:14.767 casualties and forced one point seven million people into a 0:02:14.847 --> 0:02:17.687 narrow area where they are at risk, the letter says, 0:02:18.007 --> 0:02:22.727 of lethal contagion. You might have also seen the distressing 0:02:22.767 --> 0:02:26.207 footage of a burning hospital in Gaza with civilians inside, 0:02:26.247 --> 0:02:29.167 which killed at least four injuring dozens of others. The 0:02:29.247 --> 0:02:31.567 Israeli military said the target of the strike was a 0:02:31.807 --> 0:02:36.447 Hamas command center. Meanwhile, missiles, rockets and drones are being 0:02:36.487 --> 0:02:40.327 directed at Israel, with thousands of Israelis seeking refuge in 0:02:40.407 --> 0:02:41.207 bomb shelters. 0:02:42.007 --> 0:02:43.567 Last week marked. 0:02:43.287 --> 0:02:46.527 One year since the October seven attack carried out by Hamas, 0:02:46.767 --> 0:02:50.207 where twelve hundred people were killed, two hundred and fifty 0:02:50.207 --> 0:02:53.527 four hostages were taken, and ninety seven hostages are yet 0:02:53.567 --> 0:02:57.087 to be recovered. Since the war began, more than forty 0:02:57.127 --> 0:03:01.367 two thousand Palestinians have been killed, according to Gaza's Ministry 0:03:01.407 --> 0:03:01.967 of Health. 0:03:02.407 --> 0:03:06.807 Listen, it's completely normal to feel helpless and overwhelmed in 0:03:06.847 --> 0:03:09.967 the face of what is now an ex banding and 0:03:10.047 --> 0:03:13.127 seemingly unending horror in the Middle East. So we just 0:03:13.167 --> 0:03:15.647 wanted to give you a few details of some of 0:03:15.687 --> 0:03:18.767 the aid organizations who are operating in the region who 0:03:18.807 --> 0:03:21.567 need support more than ever if you're able to give it. 0:03:22.127 --> 0:03:25.167 Doctors without Borders are operating in both Gaza and Lebanon. 0:03:25.327 --> 0:03:30.287 Any donation to them pays for consultations, surgeries, treatments and vaccinations. 0:03:30.807 --> 0:03:34.407 World's Central Kitchen is a remarkable organization. They go all 0:03:34.407 --> 0:03:37.007 over the world wherever they're needed, so at the moment, 0:03:37.047 --> 0:03:40.567 as well as operating still in Gaza Lebanon, and Israel. 0:03:40.567 --> 0:03:43.847 They're actually also operating in the hurricane hit areas of 0:03:43.887 --> 0:03:47.007 the United States and many other areas all over the world. 0:03:47.367 --> 0:03:50.287 They provide emergency food relief and they have served more 0:03:50.327 --> 0:03:54.007 than seventy million meals in Gaza since the conflict began. 0:03:54.567 --> 0:03:57.687 Plan International focus on Girls and children. They do things 0:03:57.727 --> 0:04:01.807 like provide basics like blankets, cash assistance in areas of need. 0:04:01.887 --> 0:04:04.887 They're operating in Gaza and Lebanon, and of course UNICEF, 0:04:05.007 --> 0:04:07.847 whose Children of Gaza appeal is entering its twelfth month. 0:04:08.367 --> 0:04:11.807 They provide suppert for children that can include things like 0:04:11.927 --> 0:04:15.847 water purification tablets and School in a Box, which is 0:04:15.927 --> 0:04:19.487 one box that contains enough education supplies to keep forty 0:04:19.527 --> 0:04:23.087 students learning in the most difficult circumstances. We are putting 0:04:23.127 --> 0:04:27.127 the links to all of those organizations in today's show notes. 0:04:26.967 --> 0:04:29.727 And to say, across any developments across the Middle East, 0:04:29.727 --> 0:04:32.687 you can always tune into our daily news podcast, The Quickie. 0:04:32.687 --> 0:04:34.447 We will put a link in our show notes to that. 0:04:45.887 --> 0:04:48.767 The four day work week is slowly transforming from a 0:04:48.807 --> 0:04:50.567 thing of dreams into a reality. 0:04:50.647 --> 0:04:52.927 With Medibank expanding its trial. 0:04:52.807 --> 0:04:56.687 Companies in Australia are trialing a four day work week, 0:04:56.967 --> 0:04:59.687 and it's looking pretty good for women. 0:05:00.367 --> 0:05:02.687 As a woman, I think it sounds great. 0:05:03.127 --> 0:05:09.887 Well, you, Jesse and Holley work part time. Woll interesting, 0:05:11.087 --> 0:05:13.327 they're already work time? 0:05:13.967 --> 0:05:17.767 Why not? Because I don't work in the office five 0:05:17.887 --> 0:05:21.287 days a week, nine to five. That's true, but I 0:05:21.407 --> 0:05:23.607 don't have any days off. 0:05:24.487 --> 0:05:26.887 Yeah, we work a part time at Mama Maya and 0:05:26.927 --> 0:05:29.007 then we do other things on the side, so it 0:05:29.007 --> 0:05:30.687 feels like a bit of a freelancing gik. 0:05:30.887 --> 0:05:34.367 Yeah, so that yes. Anyway, Well, look, we're defensive already, 0:05:34.727 --> 0:05:38.527 to tell we're defensive already, and me is not even here. 0:05:39.127 --> 0:05:41.287 So let's I was gonna I was gonna say that 0:05:41.367 --> 0:05:43.127 both of you have it really good right now, but 0:05:43.207 --> 0:05:45.047 I'm quite scared, so I'm not going to say that. 0:05:45.407 --> 0:05:49.167 So Medibank have been trialing this with their employees and 0:05:49.207 --> 0:05:52.167 they've adopted the one hundred eighty one hundred model, which 0:05:52.207 --> 0:05:55.447 is one hundred percent pay for eighty percent hours at 0:05:55.487 --> 0:05:59.407 one hundred percent productivity. A lot of people were like, 0:05:59.487 --> 0:06:01.487 this is never going to work for women, because, as 0:06:01.487 --> 0:06:03.967 you guys say, so many women do work part time 0:06:04.127 --> 0:06:06.567 and they feel like they're just working full time. But 0:06:06.687 --> 0:06:09.487 on like four days instead of five. Yeah, but some 0:06:09.527 --> 0:06:12.487 of the insights from this trial has actually shown that 0:06:12.687 --> 0:06:16.927 employee satisfaction, motivation, and engagement is up. There's also been 0:06:16.927 --> 0:06:22.007 significant reductions in unhealthy eating, sleep disturbances, and job related stress. 0:06:22.527 --> 0:06:25.207 From other trials at aren't the Medibank trials, it was 0:06:25.247 --> 0:06:28.887 shown that men took more responsibility at home, so it 0:06:28.887 --> 0:06:31.647 took on more of that at home labor now only 0:06:31.727 --> 0:06:31.887 with the. 0:06:31.927 --> 0:06:33.487 Man in there four days a week. 0:06:33.607 --> 0:06:35.327 Yeah, if they were working four days a week, so 0:06:35.407 --> 0:06:38.447 it's not equal to women, but it's more than what 0:06:38.447 --> 0:06:40.967 I'm assuming they were doing nothing before. Yeah, all right 0:06:42.727 --> 0:06:45.967 to see. So previous trials also indicated that there was 0:06:45.967 --> 0:06:49.607 a reduced in stress, burnout, and absenteesm with a forty 0:06:49.607 --> 0:06:53.207 four point three percent decrease in sick leave. Now, because 0:06:53.207 --> 0:06:56.807 of these results, a company called Insignia Financial, which is 0:06:56.847 --> 0:07:00.327 a huge finance company in Australia, will now be trialing 0:07:00.367 --> 0:07:02.447 the four day work week as well, which is going 0:07:02.487 --> 0:07:04.247 to be the first in its sector to do so. 0:07:04.527 --> 0:07:07.767 Because finance is known as a very like Matro, work 0:07:07.807 --> 0:07:10.527 till you drop, long hours, work hard, play hard, all 0:07:10.567 --> 0:07:14.087 that kind of culture. So it is significant that they're 0:07:14.127 --> 0:07:15.327 taking it up. Yeah. 0:07:15.567 --> 0:07:17.927 Are you on board with the four day work week? 0:07:18.007 --> 0:07:18.847 Jess Stevens. 0:07:19.287 --> 0:07:22.927 I loved this story because recently there was another news 0:07:22.927 --> 0:07:25.167 story that came out. It was a report by the 0:07:25.167 --> 0:07:28.127 Productivity Commission. Did you guys see this? And it was 0:07:28.167 --> 0:07:31.607 about the childcare rebate and universal childcare and early childhood 0:07:31.687 --> 0:07:36.247 education and parents kind of accessibility to that. And there 0:07:36.287 --> 0:07:39.527 was an interesting article written in the Sydney Morning Herald 0:07:39.567 --> 0:07:42.567 by a friend of mine, Charlotte Mortlocke, and she wrote 0:07:42.767 --> 0:07:46.087 about how a lot of the incentives that are dangled 0:07:46.327 --> 0:07:50.367 in front of prospective parents involve spending less time with 0:07:50.407 --> 0:07:53.727 their kids. Now, the early childhood education conversation is one thing, 0:07:53.767 --> 0:07:55.767 and the Productivity Commission that was their scope, so I 0:07:55.807 --> 0:07:58.767 totally understand that. But the other side of the conversation 0:07:58.967 --> 0:08:02.527 is exactly the four day work week, which is we've 0:08:02.647 --> 0:08:05.847 talked about how people are deciding to have less kids 0:08:05.927 --> 0:08:10.167 or no kids, the declining birth rate, which is economically problematic, 0:08:11.087 --> 0:08:13.287 and I think the reason a lot of people are 0:08:13.367 --> 0:08:16.127 having less kids or deciding not to have them is 0:08:16.167 --> 0:08:20.087 also because of the finite resource that is time. 0:08:20.487 --> 0:08:20.807 They go. 0:08:20.887 --> 0:08:22.727 I don't have time to raise them a lot of 0:08:22.767 --> 0:08:24.647 people will have one child and then go, I don't 0:08:24.647 --> 0:08:27.887 have time to raise another one. I can barely raise one. 0:08:28.367 --> 0:08:31.447 We're talking a lot about the finite resource of money, 0:08:31.687 --> 0:08:34.527 which is cost of living crisis. I don't have another bedroom. 0:08:34.767 --> 0:08:36.687 I couldn't afford another set of an app is whatever 0:08:36.727 --> 0:08:39.447 it is. But this is the other one that I 0:08:39.447 --> 0:08:43.847 think parents are yelling out about going the equation of 0:08:43.887 --> 0:08:48.407 having two full time working parents and kids isn't working 0:08:48.687 --> 0:08:50.447 in a lot of places all over the world. The 0:08:50.567 --> 0:08:53.447 US Surgeon General came out a few weeks ago to 0:08:53.487 --> 0:08:57.007 say that it is a significant public health crisis parental stress, 0:08:57.647 --> 0:09:00.927 and there aren't services and support for parents. 0:09:01.647 --> 0:09:03.687 I wonder if we shifted, say. 0:09:03.567 --> 0:09:06.407 Universally to a four day work week, if people would 0:09:06.407 --> 0:09:06.967 have more kids. 0:09:07.327 --> 0:09:08.327 They definitely would. 0:09:08.527 --> 0:09:11.007 Yeah, not that I'm as obsessed with you are as 0:09:11.047 --> 0:09:14.887 there being lots more children running around everywhere, but they 0:09:14.927 --> 0:09:18.407 definitely would because and in a minute, I will play Mia, 0:09:18.447 --> 0:09:19.887 because if Mia was here, she'd be going. 0:09:19.927 --> 0:09:21.327 Somebody needs to think of the bosses. 0:09:21.327 --> 0:09:24.287 And I promise you, Mia, wherever you're listening to this, 0:09:24.407 --> 0:09:26.167 that we will think of the bosses in a moment. 0:09:27.047 --> 0:09:29.727 But one of the things that is life changing for 0:09:29.847 --> 0:09:32.407 families if they can do it. Is if you can 0:09:32.487 --> 0:09:34.527 both work a four day week but have a different 0:09:34.567 --> 0:09:39.447 day off, right, then that considerably reduces your childcare costs, 0:09:39.807 --> 0:09:43.967 It considerably reduces your stress, It improves people's diet, It 0:09:44.007 --> 0:09:48.127 improves almost every indicator, right, And that is an ideal situation. 0:09:48.247 --> 0:09:50.487 Brent has never worked five full days in office since 0:09:50.487 --> 0:09:54.287 we had kids. He went part time when we had Billy, 0:09:54.447 --> 0:09:58.127 I think, so he went four days. The thing is 0:09:58.127 --> 0:10:00.287 is that what a lot of people get kind of 0:10:00.407 --> 0:10:01.847 a bit sniffy about is they're like, well, who can 0:10:01.887 --> 0:10:03.207 afford to it four days? But what a lot of 0:10:03.207 --> 0:10:06.007 people do now is they supplement their income with other 0:10:06.047 --> 0:10:08.807 things and they build it around those hours or whatever. 0:10:08.847 --> 0:10:10.927 But it's when they're talking about four days, they mean 0:10:11.327 --> 0:10:14.207 I have to be either in an office or in 0:10:14.207 --> 0:10:16.527 a workplace, or in a hospital or in where I 0:10:16.607 --> 0:10:18.407 have to be in change my desk or my job 0:10:18.487 --> 0:10:21.647 for those four days. Often people will tack on other 0:10:21.847 --> 0:10:24.767 work around. But also in the won't somebody think of 0:10:24.767 --> 0:10:28.047 the bosses situation. What this is talking about is in 0:10:28.207 --> 0:10:30.207 order to get your four day work week, I mean, 0:10:30.247 --> 0:10:33.687 the conditions are the output has to remain the same. Yea, 0:10:33.887 --> 0:10:35.887 So that means the four days that you work are 0:10:35.887 --> 0:10:39.287 going to be exceptionally full on days. But most women 0:10:39.487 --> 0:10:41.727 and men in fact who work part time would tell 0:10:41.767 --> 0:10:45.287 you that is already their reality, right, So it's never 0:10:45.327 --> 0:10:47.087 going to work for every workplace. And I know that 0:10:47.127 --> 0:10:50.607 whenever we talk about flexible work, working from home, all 0:10:50.647 --> 0:10:52.647 those things, there will be a large portion of the 0:10:52.687 --> 0:10:56.127 audience and the population who get very pissed off because 0:10:56.127 --> 0:10:59.087 they're like, it's just not possible for everybody. But work 0:10:59.087 --> 0:11:02.047 has never been the same for everyone. People have always 0:11:02.047 --> 0:11:04.167 worked shift work, work in different. 0:11:03.887 --> 0:11:05.047 Places, you know. 0:11:05.167 --> 0:11:07.247 I know a lot of nurses, for example, who since 0:11:07.287 --> 0:11:11.047 having kids, have rearranged their shifts to work three really 0:11:11.087 --> 0:11:13.727 full on long days, but then have more days off. 0:11:14.047 --> 0:11:16.847 Like that has always happened in different professions. There's never 0:11:16.887 --> 0:11:19.927 been a blanket. Everyone in the world works nine to five. 0:11:19.847 --> 0:11:20.447 And other yes. 0:11:20.567 --> 0:11:23.527 But the thing about women going part time is obviously 0:11:23.567 --> 0:11:27.527 there's a financial cost to that, and there's also a 0:11:27.607 --> 0:11:30.207 career at a cost because often you have to sort 0:11:30.207 --> 0:11:34.207 of stop at whatever level you're at. Whereas if the 0:11:34.287 --> 0:11:38.047 four day week were to become completely normalized, which a 0:11:38.087 --> 0:11:40.407 lot of part time women are doing anyway, then that 0:11:40.487 --> 0:11:42.967 would kind of mean that it's more of an even 0:11:43.247 --> 0:11:43.967 playing field. 0:11:44.247 --> 0:11:45.287 What do you make of it? 0:11:45.647 --> 0:11:48.247 I unpopular opinion me. Always call me a liar, but 0:11:48.287 --> 0:11:50.887 I'm actually not on board with the four day week. 0:11:51.687 --> 0:11:54.047 I think she should be on board because I can 0:11:54.087 --> 0:11:56.207 honestly say it's the model. I think it's the model 0:11:56.247 --> 0:11:58.087 of the four day week that they're working towards the 0:11:58.087 --> 0:12:01.167 one hundred percent pay, eighty percent hours, one hundred percent 0:12:01.207 --> 0:12:01.927 of productivity. 0:12:02.287 --> 0:12:05.287 That bit. I would rather if that would say sixty percent. 0:12:05.447 --> 0:12:08.527 That's because of your life stage, right, Without wanting to 0:12:08.567 --> 0:12:11.527 be really presumptuous, it's like you want that bit of 0:12:11.567 --> 0:12:15.927 flex at work to like socialize, leave early, sometimes, gather 0:12:15.967 --> 0:12:17.847 in the kitchen for a long lunch, whatever it might be. 0:12:17.927 --> 0:12:18.407 Not that you do that. 0:12:18.447 --> 0:12:19.687 I'm not suggesting anyone does that. 0:12:19.927 --> 0:12:21.167 You know I do that. You've seen lab. 0:12:21.647 --> 0:12:24.207 But what I mean is what you will notice about people. 0:12:24.407 --> 0:12:26.807 And again I'm generalizing so much, but mothers who come 0:12:26.847 --> 0:12:29.447 back to it, they are so fricking efficient with their time. 0:12:29.767 --> 0:12:32.727 They are working every minute there in the office. They're 0:12:32.767 --> 0:12:34.487 not funny and about having a chit chat. 0:12:34.487 --> 0:12:35.247 I mean some are. 0:12:35.087 --> 0:12:37.967 Obviously, but like, because if you're trying to cram it 0:12:38.007 --> 0:12:39.727 all in and you know you've got to walk out 0:12:39.727 --> 0:12:41.887 the door at four o'clock or whatever you might have 0:12:41.927 --> 0:12:44.967 negotiated to get to an early childcare pickup or whatever, 0:12:46.207 --> 0:12:48.087 you are squeezing that time. 0:12:48.287 --> 0:12:51.087 I don't have kids, so I don't have the burden 0:12:51.167 --> 0:12:53.927 of childcare. I also don't have a man to take 0:12:53.927 --> 0:12:56.567 on the responsibility at homes. I still have that, but 0:12:56.767 --> 0:12:59.207 I can honestly say that right now, in my five 0:12:59.287 --> 0:13:02.887 day week, I'm probably at about an eighty percent max productivity, 0:13:03.407 --> 0:13:05.567 and knowing if I went to a four day week, 0:13:05.727 --> 0:13:07.927 I'd have to up that to one hundred percent, and 0:13:07.967 --> 0:13:08.727 I don't want to do that. 0:13:08.887 --> 0:13:12.367 Yeah, that's very fair because at different times in your life, 0:13:12.367 --> 0:13:14.767 different things are more important. So there have been times 0:13:14.767 --> 0:13:17.807 in my work life where I've negotiated less pay for 0:13:17.887 --> 0:13:20.807 more time off, for example, or you know, like you 0:13:20.887 --> 0:13:23.447 negotiate around those things because it's what's important to you 0:13:23.487 --> 0:13:25.767 at that time. And there are different times in your 0:13:25.767 --> 0:13:28.207 life where time is the most important. 0:13:28.287 --> 0:13:32.447 Don't you reckon though that, Especially in the finance sector, 0:13:32.447 --> 0:13:34.287 although I can see in a lot of different sectors 0:13:34.927 --> 0:13:37.527 with all the talk of AI and how it's going 0:13:37.567 --> 0:13:40.487 to change our lives. If AI can't give us a 0:13:40.567 --> 0:13:44.527 day back, then what's the point. If I was speaking 0:13:44.527 --> 0:13:46.287 to a teacher recently who said that they had this 0:13:46.327 --> 0:13:48.967 AI system come in, which is to the amount of 0:13:48.967 --> 0:13:52.927 paperwork after as a teacher, and it's streamliner. What they 0:13:52.967 --> 0:13:56.007 did in this session was they use this technology and 0:13:56.087 --> 0:13:58.527 it he said it would take four hours off my 0:13:58.567 --> 0:13:59.047 work week. 0:13:59.167 --> 0:13:59.327 Right. 0:13:59.407 --> 0:14:00.807 What this technology could. 0:14:00.607 --> 0:14:02.927 Do what I don't want to do is then have 0:14:03.087 --> 0:14:05.967 us fill it with other shit or like try and 0:14:06.327 --> 0:14:09.687 stretch out our workload or pile more onto us. If 0:14:09.687 --> 0:14:12.287 we can all get this AI stuff that some people 0:14:12.367 --> 0:14:15.727 seem very excited about to take one day of work 0:14:15.767 --> 0:14:18.967 off us, then isn't the point of technology so that 0:14:19.087 --> 0:14:20.767 we can have a bit of freedom and sit by 0:14:20.767 --> 0:14:21.447 the beach. 0:14:21.447 --> 0:14:24.007 And some space to have creative ideas for our bosses? 0:14:24.087 --> 0:14:24.127 Me? 0:14:24.247 --> 0:14:28.847 Yeah, yeah, rather than are doing all the fun creative 0:14:28.887 --> 0:14:31.847 stuff that meme that goes around that says something like 0:14:32.127 --> 0:14:35.247 I would like AI to clean my house and file 0:14:35.287 --> 0:14:37.807 my I don't want it doing their interesting thing. 0:14:38.127 --> 0:14:39.647 While I know. 0:14:39.967 --> 0:14:42.327 Amantha Rembo, who was quoted in the MoMA Mea article 0:14:42.367 --> 0:14:46.527 about this right. She is an amazing productivity innovation consultant 0:14:46.527 --> 0:14:49.647 who I interviewed her for a podcast. Like I want 0:14:49.647 --> 0:14:51.607 to say, like maybe eight years ago. She is the 0:14:51.647 --> 0:14:54.687 first person. She was a boss running a company who 0:14:54.727 --> 0:14:58.807 at that time had implemented flexible working locations. So at 0:14:58.807 --> 0:15:01.887 that time, her team and it's a relatively small team, 0:15:01.927 --> 0:15:04.887 admittedly it was maybe fifteen people. They had to be 0:15:04.927 --> 0:15:06.567 in the office on XT day, next day, and the 0:15:06.607 --> 0:15:08.487 rest of the days they could be wherever they wanted 0:15:08.487 --> 0:15:10.127 in the world. It didn't as long as they got 0:15:10.127 --> 0:15:12.887 their worked on. At the time, that boggled my tiny 0:15:12.927 --> 0:15:16.767 mind so much. It was so out there. And now 0:15:16.887 --> 0:15:20.887 she actually has re implemented people being in the office 0:15:20.967 --> 0:15:23.167 on certain days. They haven't gone full flexibility, but she 0:15:23.327 --> 0:15:26.367 says the way that she works it with her team 0:15:26.607 --> 0:15:30.647 Monday to Thursday, everybody works hard, some remotely, some not, 0:15:30.687 --> 0:15:33.367 but like very full on hours and then they get 0:15:33.367 --> 0:15:36.687 together on Thursday and decide. She says, people look at 0:15:36.727 --> 0:15:38.767 their annual goals, they break them down into what they've 0:15:38.767 --> 0:15:41.007 got to do, and they work out whether they've achieved 0:15:41.007 --> 0:15:43.407 everything they wanted to achieve. To take Friday off without 0:15:43.407 --> 0:15:46.967 feeling anxious or guilty about it, and like, imagine, if 0:15:47.047 --> 0:15:49.127 you can get work to a place where it's less 0:15:49.127 --> 0:15:52.487 about you being there and more about what you produce, 0:15:53.127 --> 0:15:55.287 then you can do that. Yeah, And I think that's 0:15:55.327 --> 0:15:55.767 the dream. 0:15:55.967 --> 0:15:57.647 Out louders, let us know what you think. Are you 0:15:57.687 --> 0:15:58.687 doing a four day work week? 0:15:58.687 --> 0:16:00.727 Because I have a lot of friends who are doing 0:16:00.767 --> 0:16:02.327 a four day work week at the moment, and I 0:16:02.407 --> 0:16:05.527 must say they are looking. 0:16:08.007 --> 0:16:09.847 To them, I bet. 0:16:09.647 --> 0:16:11.687 They are not your teacher friends though are. 0:16:11.567 --> 0:16:13.407 Now We're not my teacher friend until. 0:16:13.167 --> 0:16:15.167 The school goes to four days a week, that's not 0:16:15.247 --> 0:16:18.727 going to be available to work in hospitals a lot 0:16:18.727 --> 0:16:21.287 of sort of I don't know if it's government technically, 0:16:21.407 --> 0:16:23.367 but like public health type stuff. 0:16:23.767 --> 0:16:27.207 Enormous amount of outpush. But you know, Fridays, honestly, they're 0:16:27.207 --> 0:16:28.447 getting more sleep than the rest of us. 0:16:28.727 --> 0:16:31.247 So I'm sure if me is listening right now or 0:16:31.287 --> 0:16:33.887 any other bosses are kind of rolling their eyes at 0:16:33.887 --> 0:16:36.207 this whole four day work week. But I think what 0:16:36.407 --> 0:16:39.087 they would get on board with is the actual model 0:16:39.127 --> 0:16:41.727 that everyone's trialing, which is the one hundred pay for 0:16:41.927 --> 0:16:44.607 eighty percent of hours for one hundred percent of productivity. 0:16:44.727 --> 0:16:47.687 So productivity actually isn't decreasing in the four. 0:16:47.567 --> 0:16:50.287 Day work week, Yeah, exactly. And I think that on 0:16:50.327 --> 0:16:54.367 the surface, a lot of bosses go, hang on, who's 0:16:54.407 --> 0:16:56.687 going to be here on a Friday, like especially if 0:16:56.727 --> 0:17:00.247 you work in retail or you work in like somewhere 0:17:00.247 --> 0:17:02.687 that needs to be staffed all of those days they're 0:17:02.687 --> 0:17:06.087 going It just doesn't add up. You could kind of 0:17:06.167 --> 0:17:07.687 shift your staff around like. 0:17:07.647 --> 0:17:09.487 Some because I think if we were actually talking about 0:17:09.527 --> 0:17:11.207 this with me out because I guess we have like 0:17:11.207 --> 0:17:14.367 about ten riders. Someone needs to be writing all the time, 0:17:14.447 --> 0:17:16.447 like we write like seven days a week. But instead 0:17:16.447 --> 0:17:18.487 of having a team of ten in one go, you 0:17:18.487 --> 0:17:20.647 have a team of five, which actually means that team 0:17:20.687 --> 0:17:22.247 of five has to work. 0:17:22.607 --> 0:17:26.487 I don't give her any ideas she's gonna get on board. 0:17:36.367 --> 0:17:39.047 I understand I've been fortunate, which is why I want 0:17:39.087 --> 0:17:42.687 to help all Australians into a home, whether it be 0:17:42.847 --> 0:17:47.407 public homes or private rentals or home ownership. 0:17:47.607 --> 0:17:51.847 Australian Prime Minister Anthony Alberanezi has purchased a new home 0:17:51.887 --> 0:17:53.647 and if you would like all the details, you better 0:17:53.687 --> 0:17:56.367 believe I have them. I love looking at pictures of 0:17:56.367 --> 0:17:56.887 real estate. 0:17:57.567 --> 0:18:01.047 This is quite a good real estate, pawny juicy. 0:18:01.767 --> 0:18:04.527 The bathtub has of you. I love a bathtub with 0:18:04.567 --> 0:18:04.807 a view. 0:18:04.887 --> 0:18:08.287 That's He bought the new South Wales Central Coast property 0:18:08.367 --> 0:18:11.647 for four point three million dollars. It has four bedrooms, 0:18:11.767 --> 0:18:15.607 three bathrooms and it's built as cliff top perfection as 0:18:15.647 --> 0:18:19.847 well as a premiere location to enjoy sun whale watching 0:18:20.007 --> 0:18:22.247 or spectacular sunsets all ye around. 0:18:22.367 --> 0:18:26.247 It also has an entertainment section that faces north and 0:18:26.407 --> 0:18:28.367 from talking to rich people, I know that's the place 0:18:28.407 --> 0:18:28.967 you want to face. 0:18:29.007 --> 0:18:30.887 It's always not why they always bring up north. 0:18:30.967 --> 0:18:33.447 Yeah, because against the sun. And you don't want to 0:18:33.447 --> 0:18:36.727 be south because like you're turning it back against the world. 0:18:37.487 --> 0:18:41.247 So rich people north always because north facing and I'm like, oh, 0:18:41.767 --> 0:18:46.527 it's north facing the north of my life. But four 0:18:46.607 --> 0:18:49.167 labor MPs are not in the mood to buy albern 0:18:49.167 --> 0:18:53.567 easier housewarming gift. They expressed frustration at the PM's decision, 0:18:53.647 --> 0:18:57.167 with one MP remarking I can't think of a greater 0:18:57.247 --> 0:19:00.887 act of self sabotage in my life. I am god smacked. 0:19:01.527 --> 0:19:04.007 Another said if you're a Labor MP up against a 0:19:04.047 --> 0:19:07.167 Green at the next election, good luck. Uh huh anow 0:19:07.207 --> 0:19:09.767 They're added, it's not a good look, and they're instinct 0:19:09.847 --> 0:19:13.647 is this is fucking terrible. Some were even said to 0:19:13.687 --> 0:19:16.087 have tried to stop it. So why is it such 0:19:16.127 --> 0:19:20.047 a bad move? Well, all of this is six months 0:19:20.047 --> 0:19:22.127 before an election. There is an election to be held 0:19:22.167 --> 0:19:25.607 in May that will be fought primarily on housing affordability. 0:19:26.247 --> 0:19:29.447 Voters are of course dealing with high interest rates, rents 0:19:29.487 --> 0:19:33.167 and property prices, not to mention a housing shortage. And 0:19:33.207 --> 0:19:36.727 Albernizi also has an investment property which is for sale 0:19:36.927 --> 0:19:40.007 for one point eight five million dollars. Here's what Opposition 0:19:40.127 --> 0:19:41.607 leader Peter Dutton had to say. 0:19:41.767 --> 0:19:43.487 Well, it's a matter for the Prime Minister, but I 0:19:43.487 --> 0:19:46.647 wish sare Hee and Jodie well, and they're obviously planning 0:19:46.647 --> 0:19:49.647 for the next stage of life post politics, and I 0:19:49.687 --> 0:19:50.447 wish them well in that. 0:19:50.647 --> 0:19:54.727 Until twenty nineteen, Dutton himself actually had four properties in Queensland. 0:19:54.807 --> 0:19:57.967 He sold one, his beachfront Gold Coast property, for six 0:19:58.007 --> 0:20:01.847