1 00:00:11,064 --> 00:00:15,024 Speaker 1: So much. You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma 2 00:00:15,104 --> 00:00:18,784 Speaker 1: Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that 3 00:00:18,864 --> 00:00:26,744 Speaker 1: this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome to 4 00:00:26,784 --> 00:00:28,904 Speaker 1: this spill your daily pop culture thinks. 5 00:00:29,344 --> 00:00:31,944 Speaker 2: I'm Laura Brodneck and I'm Banham. 6 00:00:31,744 --> 00:00:34,824 Speaker 1: And boy, guys, do we have a treat for you today. 7 00:00:35,064 --> 00:00:37,424 Speaker 2: I'm so excited. I was excited for this episode from 8 00:00:37,584 --> 00:00:39,464 Speaker 2: last night when. 9 00:00:39,304 --> 00:00:42,264 Speaker 1: We decided to do it correct. Yes, So this is 10 00:00:42,304 --> 00:00:45,424 Speaker 1: the week of Nobody Wants This Season two. It came 11 00:00:45,504 --> 00:00:47,904 Speaker 1: out just last night. I'm assuming most of you have 12 00:00:48,064 --> 00:00:50,904 Speaker 1: watched at least the first couple of episodes. But the 13 00:00:50,944 --> 00:00:54,064 Speaker 1: reason that we wanted to this episode today is that 14 00:00:54,144 --> 00:00:55,984 Speaker 1: we know that this week everyone is going to be 15 00:00:56,064 --> 00:00:59,984 Speaker 1: newly obsessed with the on screen chemistry between Kristen Bell 16 00:01:00,224 --> 00:01:03,064 Speaker 1: and Adam Brody in Nobody Wants This and their characters 17 00:01:03,144 --> 00:01:06,024 Speaker 1: Joanne and Noah and we all just love a good 18 00:01:06,264 --> 00:01:10,184 Speaker 1: steamy love story on TV and watching actors who haven't 19 00:01:10,424 --> 00:01:11,704 Speaker 1: credible chemistry together. 20 00:01:11,904 --> 00:01:15,784 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like the chemistry between actors on screen 21 00:01:16,664 --> 00:01:18,984 Speaker 2: really makes or breaks a roum com. 22 00:01:18,704 --> 00:01:20,944 Speaker 1: One hundred percent, but also just any kind of TV 23 00:01:21,024 --> 00:01:22,864 Speaker 1: show like, and this might make me look very bad 24 00:01:22,864 --> 00:01:27,304 Speaker 1: at my job, but I love TV shows for the characters. 25 00:01:27,384 --> 00:01:30,304 Speaker 1: I can forgive some bad or slow plot. I can 26 00:01:30,344 --> 00:01:33,664 Speaker 1: forgive like a shaky premise if the chemistry between the 27 00:01:33,784 --> 00:01:36,504 Speaker 1: characters is there, I'm all in. I'm all in. All 28 00:01:36,504 --> 00:01:38,144 Speaker 1: my favorite shows are chemistry based. 29 00:01:38,304 --> 00:01:40,224 Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, I think I'm the opposite. 30 00:01:40,464 --> 00:01:42,264 Speaker 1: Yeah, you might be the opposite, but that's why we work. 31 00:01:42,864 --> 00:01:44,264 Speaker 2: You've heard about my expendables. 32 00:01:44,384 --> 00:01:47,904 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. No chemistry there, Yeah, no, zero chemistry. 33 00:01:47,944 --> 00:01:50,944 Speaker 1: So today we're gonna be talking through our favorite on 34 00:01:51,024 --> 00:01:53,984 Speaker 1: screen couples of all time, the ones who have the 35 00:01:54,024 --> 00:01:58,464 Speaker 1: most sizzling, undeniable chemistry. And a fun fact about mine 36 00:01:58,504 --> 00:02:01,384 Speaker 1: is that all the couples I have, their characters were 37 00:02:01,384 --> 00:02:04,384 Speaker 1: originally not written to be together. It's just that once 38 00:02:04,424 --> 00:02:06,544 Speaker 1: they all of them, yeah, I realized after i'd picked them, 39 00:02:06,584 --> 00:02:07,984 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I've got it. I'm 40 00:02:07,984 --> 00:02:10,344 Speaker 1: such a type. I've got such a type. They all 41 00:02:10,624 --> 00:02:12,904 Speaker 1: just on the same show, and the chemistry between them 42 00:02:12,984 --> 00:02:15,504 Speaker 1: was so incredible. The writers broke up the original love 43 00:02:15,544 --> 00:02:18,584 Speaker 1: stories and paired all of these characters together. So that's 44 00:02:18,624 --> 00:02:19,504 Speaker 1: the ones I've chosen. 45 00:02:19,544 --> 00:02:22,064 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, My first one is kind of the opposite, 46 00:02:22,184 --> 00:02:26,624 Speaker 2: where it was like actors that were dating and then 47 00:02:26,744 --> 00:02:29,664 Speaker 2: their relationship was so interesting that the writers wrote them 48 00:02:29,824 --> 00:02:31,064 Speaker 2: into the show as a couple. 49 00:02:31,264 --> 00:02:33,664 Speaker 1: Can not picture which couple you're talking about. 50 00:02:33,424 --> 00:02:36,384 Speaker 2: Okay, because you know, you know, you know. Okay, So 51 00:02:36,464 --> 00:02:38,064 Speaker 2: this first one, Oh my god, I can't wait to 52 00:02:38,064 --> 00:02:38,504 Speaker 2: talk about it. 53 00:02:38,544 --> 00:02:40,904 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, we're so excited. Take a deep breath. 54 00:02:40,904 --> 00:02:42,864 Speaker 2: That's gonna be okay, this first one. And I think 55 00:02:42,864 --> 00:02:45,344 Speaker 2: I'm going to start as like a little teaser, okay, 56 00:02:45,584 --> 00:02:48,584 Speaker 2: because I want to read out a quote where one 57 00:02:48,624 --> 00:02:50,704 Speaker 2: of the actors was winning an award and the other 58 00:02:50,784 --> 00:02:54,264 Speaker 2: actor was presenting the award to them, and this was 59 00:02:54,464 --> 00:02:57,584 Speaker 2: the quote. We were in love with each other, and 60 00:02:57,624 --> 00:02:59,824 Speaker 2: we were reckless idiots, and the two of us would 61 00:02:59,904 --> 00:03:02,784 Speaker 2: argue about all these things forever, grinding the writer's room 62 00:03:02,824 --> 00:03:05,304 Speaker 2: into a halt until we got two upset and we 63 00:03:05,424 --> 00:03:08,184 Speaker 2: go to our respective offices and slam the door, where 64 00:03:08,184 --> 00:03:10,304 Speaker 2: we would continue arguing over instant messenger. 65 00:03:10,904 --> 00:03:12,824 Speaker 1: I don't know who this is? Are you sure I 66 00:03:12,864 --> 00:03:14,264 Speaker 1: know these people? Who is it? 67 00:03:14,584 --> 00:03:18,024 Speaker 2: Mindy Kayling and bj Novak? Oh my god, of course 68 00:03:18,144 --> 00:03:19,544 Speaker 2: of course, from the office. 69 00:03:19,704 --> 00:03:20,464 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 70 00:03:20,624 --> 00:03:23,504 Speaker 2: So these two crazy kids started off as writers for 71 00:03:23,624 --> 00:03:27,104 Speaker 2: the Office and they became so intensely in love. They 72 00:03:27,144 --> 00:03:29,464 Speaker 2: had this toxic relationship that was on again, off again 73 00:03:29,464 --> 00:03:31,584 Speaker 2: because they were these two big creators and they had 74 00:03:31,584 --> 00:03:33,744 Speaker 2: all these ideas and they would even say how they 75 00:03:33,784 --> 00:03:35,944 Speaker 2: would literally have all the other writers in the office 76 00:03:35,944 --> 00:03:37,784 Speaker 2: like roll their eyes because they just kept going at 77 00:03:37,824 --> 00:03:40,584 Speaker 2: each other. Yeah, and eventually they you start to see 78 00:03:40,584 --> 00:03:43,624 Speaker 2: them come into characters in the actual show, and then 79 00:03:43,664 --> 00:03:47,824 Speaker 2: they have the exact same relationship on screen as Kelly, 80 00:03:47,824 --> 00:03:48,664 Speaker 2: Copaul and Ryan. 81 00:03:48,944 --> 00:03:49,224 Speaker 1: Yeah. 82 00:03:49,384 --> 00:03:52,424 Speaker 2: Oh, and their chemistry is just like. 83 00:03:52,624 --> 00:03:55,344 Speaker 1: Well, that's why they still will they won't they like twenty. 84 00:03:55,104 --> 00:03:58,024 Speaker 2: Years will they won't they in real life in their forties. 85 00:03:58,024 --> 00:04:01,984 Speaker 2: And it's so interesting because even in the MINDI Project, Yeah, 86 00:04:02,104 --> 00:04:05,064 Speaker 2: Bj Novak makes an appearance. He's like this Latin guy 87 00:04:05,064 --> 00:04:07,864 Speaker 2: who's this Latin professor who's starting to date Mindy, And 88 00:04:07,864 --> 00:04:10,584 Speaker 2: I'm like, still, even in that show, out of all 89 00:04:10,584 --> 00:04:12,304 Speaker 2: the men you date on that show, I feel like 90 00:04:12,344 --> 00:04:14,704 Speaker 2: you have the best chemistry with Bj for that two seconds. 91 00:04:15,184 --> 00:04:17,224 Speaker 1: And then his character in the MINDI Project is what 92 00:04:17,264 --> 00:04:19,504 Speaker 1: people think he and MINDI are in real life because 93 00:04:19,664 --> 00:04:22,504 Speaker 1: remember his best friend the show, Lucy played by Evo More, 94 00:04:22,664 --> 00:04:26,384 Speaker 1: Susan Sarandon's daughter. They're like best best best friends, and 95 00:04:26,384 --> 00:04:29,384 Speaker 1: everyone's like, aren't you guys together? You're clearly so. 96 00:04:29,704 --> 00:04:31,984 Speaker 2: Like sitting on each other's lad She's like, oh, that's 97 00:04:31,984 --> 00:04:32,504 Speaker 2: your girlfriend. 98 00:04:32,704 --> 00:04:35,304 Speaker 1: Like everyone's like, oh, no, men and women can't be friends. 99 00:04:35,304 --> 00:04:37,104 Speaker 1: And that's the whole thing that people say about bj 100 00:04:37,224 --> 00:04:39,944 Speaker 1: Novak and Mindy is like, you're clearly soulmates. And that's 101 00:04:39,944 --> 00:04:42,064 Speaker 1: what happens because in the show he realizes that Lucy 102 00:04:42,184 --> 00:04:43,704 Speaker 1: is his soulmate, not Mindy. 103 00:04:44,544 --> 00:04:46,384 Speaker 2: And you know what, that might have happened in real life, 104 00:04:46,384 --> 00:04:47,864 Speaker 2: but they'll never tell us it. 105 00:04:47,904 --> 00:04:49,104 Speaker 1: Well, it might still happen. 106 00:04:49,184 --> 00:04:50,064 Speaker 2: Oh my god, don't. 107 00:04:50,424 --> 00:04:51,024 Speaker 1: Life is long. 108 00:04:51,304 --> 00:04:54,344 Speaker 2: I will live the day that happens. We're doing like 109 00:04:54,384 --> 00:05:00,144 Speaker 2: a full spill week a week of every single episode 110 00:05:00,144 --> 00:05:03,024 Speaker 2: they've been in together, exactly of their relationship. 111 00:05:03,344 --> 00:05:05,024 Speaker 1: I mean, we could just do that anyway, right, so 112 00:05:05,184 --> 00:05:07,224 Speaker 1: much that's actually a good idea. I know, this is 113 00:05:07,224 --> 00:05:08,864 Speaker 1: what I've said before. I know this paints me as 114 00:05:08,864 --> 00:05:11,864 Speaker 1: an absolute trash person, but I just want to know, 115 00:05:12,344 --> 00:05:14,944 Speaker 1: and it's literally none of my business. He is the 116 00:05:14,944 --> 00:05:17,184 Speaker 1: father of her children. I know because I kind of 117 00:05:17,224 --> 00:05:18,704 Speaker 1: want him to be because it's. 118 00:05:18,584 --> 00:05:20,544 Speaker 2: The fact that even her kids are like grown now, 119 00:05:20,584 --> 00:05:22,784 Speaker 2: like their kids going to school, and she still doesn't 120 00:05:22,784 --> 00:05:25,384 Speaker 2: show their faces on social which almost she's a responsible 121 00:05:25,424 --> 00:05:27,104 Speaker 2: mum and she doesn't want to show. But I'm like, 122 00:05:27,184 --> 00:05:28,264 Speaker 2: is it also they look like. 123 00:05:28,304 --> 00:05:32,704 Speaker 1: Beja imagine this is the worst where I can't stress 124 00:05:32,784 --> 00:05:34,584 Speaker 1: enough how it's not our business, it's none of our business, 125 00:05:34,624 --> 00:05:36,344 Speaker 1: but it's coming from a place of love. I love 126 00:05:36,384 --> 00:05:36,624 Speaker 1: both of. 127 00:05:36,624 --> 00:05:38,544 Speaker 2: Them made that situation. Ship never find me. 128 00:05:38,784 --> 00:05:41,744 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I actually kind of like it. I would 129 00:05:41,784 --> 00:05:42,304 Speaker 1: love to have that. 130 00:05:42,344 --> 00:05:44,784 Speaker 2: I mean, I know it's complicated, but like he's just 131 00:05:44,824 --> 00:05:47,504 Speaker 2: like dates whoever she wants, and it's like he has 132 00:05:47,544 --> 00:05:48,544 Speaker 2: to vet them through her. 133 00:05:50,304 --> 00:05:53,344 Speaker 1: They're just each other's soulmate and potentially they have children together. 134 00:05:53,384 --> 00:05:54,664 Speaker 1: Maybe they don't. She's never said that. 135 00:05:54,744 --> 00:05:56,184 Speaker 2: I would hate to be the other woman, Like I 136 00:05:56,184 --> 00:05:58,424 Speaker 2: would hate to be the woman dating BJ who has 137 00:05:58,464 --> 00:05:59,544 Speaker 2: a MINDI at home, the. 138 00:05:59,384 --> 00:06:02,864 Speaker 1: Real mindy k doctor mindy in the MINDI project. Yeah, 139 00:06:02,904 --> 00:06:05,504 Speaker 1: the woman who comes in and realizes that he's already got. 140 00:06:05,344 --> 00:06:07,984 Speaker 2: A soul made. Literally, I would hate to be doctor mind. 141 00:06:08,024 --> 00:06:09,904 Speaker 1: Oh my god. That's and they're chemistry in that show, 142 00:06:09,944 --> 00:06:12,384 Speaker 1: which is all were actually discussing not real wife, No no, no. 143 00:06:12,224 --> 00:06:14,344 Speaker 2: No, no, It's so good and they chemistry in the 144 00:06:14,344 --> 00:06:16,024 Speaker 2: office is just like off the chain. 145 00:06:16,224 --> 00:06:18,464 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so they had to write them as a couple. 146 00:06:18,344 --> 00:06:20,784 Speaker 2: Yeah, because they were just like this toxic kids because 147 00:06:20,784 --> 00:06:22,944 Speaker 2: they were quite young as well. We had this gone again, 148 00:06:23,064 --> 00:06:27,224 Speaker 2: off again thing and they would message on AOL at 149 00:06:27,304 --> 00:06:30,064 Speaker 2: night and then they that just became the relationship they 150 00:06:30,144 --> 00:06:31,784 Speaker 2: had on screen as well, and they were just so 151 00:06:31,864 --> 00:06:33,464 Speaker 2: good at it because it was actually happening at home. 152 00:06:34,264 --> 00:06:34,704 Speaker 1: I love that. 153 00:06:34,944 --> 00:06:39,224 Speaker 2: I love them. I love toxicity. Yes, okay, what do 154 00:06:39,264 --> 00:06:39,784 Speaker 2: you have for me? 155 00:06:39,944 --> 00:06:41,744 Speaker 1: Okay, I have to just throw this morning? Because we 156 00:06:41,784 --> 00:06:44,984 Speaker 1: have talked about this before, but it is just the 157 00:06:45,184 --> 00:06:49,984 Speaker 1: ultimate like on screen chemistry overrides the entire show, and 158 00:06:50,024 --> 00:06:52,984 Speaker 1: it's Joey Potter and Pacey Witter on. 159 00:06:53,024 --> 00:06:55,184 Speaker 2: Dawson's I knew you were going to use this. I know. 160 00:06:56,664 --> 00:06:58,464 Speaker 1: I did the top. I did the top. So if 161 00:06:58,504 --> 00:07:00,544 Speaker 1: anyone we touched on this briefly the other day with 162 00:07:00,664 --> 00:07:03,664 Speaker 1: the Dawson's Creek re union, they did because Katie Holmes 163 00:07:03,704 --> 00:07:06,664 Speaker 1: and Joshua Jackson were on stage together. They're filming something together. 164 00:07:06,704 --> 00:07:08,984 Speaker 1: At the moment they were hugging on stage, left in 165 00:07:09,024 --> 00:07:11,424 Speaker 1: a car together and everyone's like, oh my god, what's happening. 166 00:07:11,744 --> 00:07:15,864 Speaker 1: And it's because their chemistry on screen changed a whole 167 00:07:15,944 --> 00:07:19,664 Speaker 1: generation of people in the nineties early two thousands. So 168 00:07:19,784 --> 00:07:23,144 Speaker 1: Dawson's creek, Kevin Williams in the creator always said that 169 00:07:23,224 --> 00:07:25,504 Speaker 1: he meant it to be a love story between Joey 170 00:07:25,504 --> 00:07:28,424 Speaker 1: Potter and Dawson Leary. They with a setup, they with 171 00:07:28,464 --> 00:07:31,424 Speaker 1: the endgame. The whole show was formulated along that, and 172 00:07:31,464 --> 00:07:33,704 Speaker 1: they had grown up as like childhood best friends, but 173 00:07:33,784 --> 00:07:35,984 Speaker 1: his best friend was also Pacy, but Pacey and Joey 174 00:07:35,984 --> 00:07:40,504 Speaker 1: didn't get along. Cut forward to their all teenagers, Joey 175 00:07:40,544 --> 00:07:44,184 Speaker 1: and Dawson date. They break up. She's devastated and he 176 00:07:44,264 --> 00:07:47,104 Speaker 1: asked Pacey to keep an eye on her. And they 177 00:07:47,144 --> 00:07:50,624 Speaker 1: also hate each other, you know, they're friendly like childhood enemies, 178 00:07:50,744 --> 00:07:54,104 Speaker 1: you know, and then their chemistry is so incredible and 179 00:07:54,144 --> 00:07:56,344 Speaker 1: it's such a slow burn of them falling in love 180 00:07:56,624 --> 00:07:59,464 Speaker 1: and it's so forbidden. It's the most forbidden thing because 181 00:07:59,464 --> 00:08:03,504 Speaker 1: of like their friendships. The episode where Dawson finds out 182 00:08:03,544 --> 00:08:07,504 Speaker 1: they're dating, what happens. It's filmed like a true crime 183 00:08:07,904 --> 00:08:09,784 Speaker 1: because at the first it's like it is a true 184 00:08:09,784 --> 00:08:12,824 Speaker 1: crime exactly, a worst crime has never been committed by 185 00:08:12,864 --> 00:08:15,624 Speaker 1: anyone else on TV. It's filmed from all these different 186 00:08:15,624 --> 00:08:18,744 Speaker 1: perspectives of the day of the day Dawson finds out 187 00:08:19,424 --> 00:08:22,624 Speaker 1: because at the top of the episode you see Joey 188 00:08:22,664 --> 00:08:24,984 Speaker 1: like being faced by Dawson something terrible has happened. Then 189 00:08:25,024 --> 00:08:27,224 Speaker 1: it cuts back and you see the day from Joey's perspective, 190 00:08:27,224 --> 00:08:29,584 Speaker 1: you see it from Dawson's perspective, and you realize that 191 00:08:29,664 --> 00:08:31,984 Speaker 1: he found out earlier in the day and he was 192 00:08:32,064 --> 00:08:34,184 Speaker 1: kind of testing them. So when she's like you know, 193 00:08:34,264 --> 00:08:37,024 Speaker 1: and he's like, I know, and it's so awful. Like 194 00:08:37,064 --> 00:08:38,464 Speaker 1: as a teen, I was like, I think I only 195 00:08:38,504 --> 00:08:43,144 Speaker 1: threw up, like this can't happen. But like everyone else 196 00:08:43,144 --> 00:08:44,904 Speaker 1: in the world, I wanted Joey and Paisy to be 197 00:08:44,944 --> 00:08:48,064 Speaker 1: together so so, so badly because their chemistry is so good. 198 00:08:48,104 --> 00:08:50,544 Speaker 1: And Kevin william said it said he ended up rewriting 199 00:08:50,824 --> 00:08:54,584 Speaker 1: the entire show to have Pacey and Joey spoiler alert 200 00:08:54,664 --> 00:08:56,624 Speaker 1: for the last episode, which is an incredible episode, end 201 00:08:56,704 --> 00:09:00,024 Speaker 1: up together. Oh my god, say chemistry was just so good. 202 00:09:00,544 --> 00:09:02,784 Speaker 1: Oh I love that, and yes they dated in real life, 203 00:09:02,784 --> 00:09:07,384 Speaker 1: but that doesn't always translate to screen chemistry. And sometimes 204 00:09:07,424 --> 00:09:09,864 Speaker 1: I do believe sometimes actors can have incredible on screen 205 00:09:09,944 --> 00:09:13,144 Speaker 1: chemistry but just not but not being in love in 206 00:09:13,144 --> 00:09:13,544 Speaker 1: real life. 207 00:09:13,704 --> 00:09:15,784 Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent, I completely agree. Oh my god, 208 00:09:15,864 --> 00:09:16,664 Speaker 2: that was a good one. 209 00:09:16,704 --> 00:09:18,384 Speaker 1: It's yeah, it was just also like I think it 210 00:09:18,424 --> 00:09:19,744 Speaker 1: has to feel earned, like there has to be a 211 00:09:19,784 --> 00:09:22,264 Speaker 1: really big build up to it, and there was for 212 00:09:22,304 --> 00:09:24,944 Speaker 1: this because it was like will they won't They surely not. 213 00:09:25,624 --> 00:09:27,824 Speaker 1: And then like they work on a science project together 214 00:09:27,904 --> 00:09:29,664 Speaker 1: and they kind of like start her feelings and like 215 00:09:29,744 --> 00:09:32,344 Speaker 1: more time passes and they spend time together. He buys 216 00:09:32,384 --> 00:09:34,064 Speaker 1: her a wall to like paint because she wants to 217 00:09:34,104 --> 00:09:36,624 Speaker 1: be a painter, and it's this whole thing, and he 218 00:09:36,664 --> 00:09:38,544 Speaker 1: like protects her from some bullies and she's the one 219 00:09:38,584 --> 00:09:40,424 Speaker 1: who believes it. He's smart and worth something. 220 00:09:41,664 --> 00:09:43,064 Speaker 2: Yeah, you bullied up. 221 00:09:43,144 --> 00:09:44,864 Speaker 1: That's why he brought her the wall, because she drew 222 00:09:44,904 --> 00:09:46,864 Speaker 1: this thing at school for this competition in front of 223 00:09:46,904 --> 00:09:50,144 Speaker 1: the bull because they can't see. You were actually running 224 00:09:50,144 --> 00:09:52,184 Speaker 1: one of the most people on TV. So it's actually 225 00:09:52,264 --> 00:09:54,664 Speaker 1: quite hurtful that you said that someone this guy bulliant 226 00:09:54,664 --> 00:09:58,024 Speaker 1: school destroys her art project, and so that's me. Yeah, 227 00:09:58,064 --> 00:09:59,064 Speaker 1: Paisy like confronts him. 228 00:09:59,264 --> 00:10:00,184 Speaker 2: I have something similar. 229 00:10:00,504 --> 00:10:02,784 Speaker 1: Really, if you're a Joey Potter of your school, is 230 00:10:02,824 --> 00:10:03,584 Speaker 1: your dad in jail? 231 00:10:04,784 --> 00:10:06,704 Speaker 2: No, my dad's here, He's not in jail. 232 00:10:06,744 --> 00:10:07,784 Speaker 1: That's a part of Joey's story. 233 00:10:07,784 --> 00:10:13,344 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, spoilers, Okay. My next one's kind of similar 234 00:10:13,504 --> 00:10:16,224 Speaker 2: in the sense if it was like will they won't they? Yep, 235 00:10:16,784 --> 00:10:17,704 Speaker 2: you're gonna know this one. 236 00:10:17,944 --> 00:10:19,104 Speaker 1: I know the last one. 237 00:10:19,144 --> 00:10:21,984 Speaker 2: No, this one's quite weird, like a very recent one. 238 00:10:22,304 --> 00:10:25,664 Speaker 2: It's all about yearning. Oh we love a yearning yearning, 239 00:10:25,784 --> 00:10:28,464 Speaker 2: and I mean, like the most intense yearning I've ever seen. 240 00:10:28,904 --> 00:10:31,984 Speaker 2: Like their chemistry was all done in silence, like no 241 00:10:32,144 --> 00:10:34,584 Speaker 2: words were spoken, like they barely speak. 242 00:10:34,664 --> 00:10:35,184 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 243 00:10:35,184 --> 00:10:38,104 Speaker 2: And it's only right at the end of the entire 244 00:10:38,344 --> 00:10:41,584 Speaker 2: like season that you actually see them together as a couple, 245 00:10:41,664 --> 00:10:44,264 Speaker 2: and you see them kiss the whole beginning then like 246 00:10:44,344 --> 00:10:45,064 Speaker 2: not even touching. 247 00:10:45,264 --> 00:10:47,984 Speaker 1: Well, that's what you need. It's true yearning, a true 248 00:10:48,144 --> 00:10:51,744 Speaker 1: TV romance. And this is why controversial opinion. All the 249 00:10:51,784 --> 00:10:53,784 Speaker 1: ones I've picked over twenty years old. I think a 250 00:10:53,824 --> 00:10:55,984 Speaker 1: lot of ones you've picked are quite old as well. 251 00:10:56,024 --> 00:10:57,864 Speaker 1: From what I can see, maybe that's this one for 252 00:10:57,904 --> 00:11:00,704 Speaker 1: this one, because we don't know how to do love 253 00:11:00,744 --> 00:11:05,064 Speaker 1: stories on TV anymore because our attention spans are so shot, 254 00:11:05,224 --> 00:11:07,304 Speaker 1: and now it has to be like it's six episodes, 255 00:11:07,544 --> 00:11:09,784 Speaker 1: limited series and you watch it all on a Sunday night. 256 00:11:10,024 --> 00:11:12,704 Speaker 1: That's a movie like movie love and TV love a 257 00:11:12,744 --> 00:11:15,304 Speaker 1: different and a TV show. You should watch twenty two 258 00:11:15,304 --> 00:11:18,704 Speaker 1: episodes for three seasons before you get a kiss. Yeah, 259 00:11:18,784 --> 00:11:19,864 Speaker 1: like you got to put in the work. 260 00:11:19,984 --> 00:11:21,864 Speaker 2: Oh my god, No one wants to work anymore. No 261 00:11:21,904 --> 00:11:23,104 Speaker 2: one wants to right. 262 00:11:23,144 --> 00:11:25,264 Speaker 1: And when she said that, she was talking about romance. 263 00:11:24,984 --> 00:11:26,984 Speaker 2: On TV home Way for her TV show, Yeah, I 264 00:11:27,024 --> 00:11:27,904 Speaker 2: want to see the yearning. 265 00:11:27,944 --> 00:11:30,744 Speaker 1: There see some yearning. So even like with nobody wants this, 266 00:11:30,904 --> 00:11:32,704 Speaker 1: Like yes, I do believe they're in love, but there 267 00:11:32,744 --> 00:11:34,504 Speaker 1: was no build up to it. 268 00:11:34,904 --> 00:11:38,024 Speaker 2: Yeah. And also in comparison to like our examples, I 269 00:11:38,024 --> 00:11:39,824 Speaker 2: feel like nobody wants it doesn't even seem like it 270 00:11:39,824 --> 00:11:40,064 Speaker 2: has that. 271 00:11:40,424 --> 00:11:42,944 Speaker 1: I'm not true, That's what I mean. I have I 272 00:11:42,984 --> 00:11:47,064 Speaker 1: have a much better Christmas each other later the whole 273 00:11:47,104 --> 00:11:49,224 Speaker 1: part of the show. We do love that show. We 274 00:11:49,224 --> 00:11:50,464 Speaker 1: don't want to trush it, Okay. 275 00:11:50,264 --> 00:11:53,224 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, what is it bridget in season two? 276 00:11:53,464 --> 00:11:55,344 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Kate. 277 00:11:55,104 --> 00:11:55,904 Speaker 2: Sharma and. 278 00:11:58,704 --> 00:12:00,104 Speaker 1: Exact producer George. 279 00:12:00,104 --> 00:12:01,744 Speaker 2: She's just gasping in. 280 00:12:01,704 --> 00:12:04,224 Speaker 1: The corner someone Georgie's had a panic attack. She's fallen 281 00:12:04,264 --> 00:12:04,704 Speaker 1: to the floor. 282 00:12:04,784 --> 00:12:09,504 Speaker 2: Kate Sharma and Anthony Bridgeton. Bridgton, Yes, I've never seen 283 00:12:10,024 --> 00:12:12,704 Speaker 2: like the way they even breathe in each other's faces. 284 00:12:13,024 --> 00:12:13,864 Speaker 1: Yeah, incredible. 285 00:12:13,944 --> 00:12:16,384 Speaker 2: I haven't seen acting like that ever in my life. 286 00:12:16,664 --> 00:12:18,664 Speaker 1: That was very hard them to pull off because, as 287 00:12:18,704 --> 00:12:22,104 Speaker 1: we're just saying, everything was kind of against them for 288 00:12:22,224 --> 00:12:24,824 Speaker 1: us to believe in their love story because we know 289 00:12:25,064 --> 00:12:27,264 Speaker 1: the whole point of the season is that they end 290 00:12:27,384 --> 00:12:29,624 Speaker 1: up together. Yeah, So there's no will they won't they, 291 00:12:29,704 --> 00:12:31,984 Speaker 1: there's no surprise, there's none of that. Like all these 292 00:12:31,984 --> 00:12:35,504 Speaker 1: other examples we're talking about, happened in a kind of shocking, 293 00:12:35,664 --> 00:12:40,264 Speaker 1: interesting way that even the writers didn't predict, whereas Bridgeston's 294 00:12:40,424 --> 00:12:42,384 Speaker 1: kind of got that they have to make the chemistry 295 00:12:42,464 --> 00:12:45,344 Speaker 1: so incredible to overcome the fact that we know what's 296 00:12:45,384 --> 00:12:46,864 Speaker 1: going to happen and we're expecting it. 297 00:12:47,024 --> 00:12:48,864 Speaker 2: Yeah, because the one thing we know from Bridgerton is 298 00:12:48,864 --> 00:12:51,104 Speaker 2: that just obviously based on the book and the one 299 00:12:51,184 --> 00:12:52,984 Speaker 2: rule of the books is that the characters have to 300 00:12:53,104 --> 00:12:54,424 Speaker 2: end up with the person they end up with in 301 00:12:54,464 --> 00:12:54,824 Speaker 2: the book. 302 00:12:54,984 --> 00:12:57,584 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. When the writer gave permission first Wonder Hims 303 00:12:57,624 --> 00:12:59,064 Speaker 1: to make her serious, she said, I don't care if 304 00:12:59,104 --> 00:13:01,144 Speaker 1: you change anything, but the one thing you can't change 305 00:13:01,184 --> 00:13:01,664 Speaker 1: is two people. 306 00:13:01,664 --> 00:13:03,384 Speaker 2: So we knew for certain they were going to end 307 00:13:03,424 --> 00:13:05,824 Speaker 2: up together. But oh my god, I did not know 308 00:13:06,504 --> 00:13:09,264 Speaker 2: this was going to happen. Like every single episode. I 309 00:13:09,344 --> 00:13:12,384 Speaker 2: was just like, the hell yeah, Like it was so 310 00:13:12,464 --> 00:13:15,144 Speaker 2: intense the way they and it's just like all silence. 311 00:13:15,184 --> 00:13:16,824 Speaker 2: Like they have some great lines in it where he's like, 312 00:13:16,824 --> 00:13:19,224 Speaker 2: you're the bait on my existence, and but like it's 313 00:13:19,264 --> 00:13:21,144 Speaker 2: just like the silence of them like looking at each 314 00:13:21,144 --> 00:13:23,704 Speaker 2: other from across the room and you see him always 315 00:13:23,704 --> 00:13:26,264 Speaker 2: like searching for her in a crowd, and like the 316 00:13:26,304 --> 00:13:28,664 Speaker 2: way he just like she'll leave a room and he'll 317 00:13:28,704 --> 00:13:30,384 Speaker 2: just like look at the spot that she had left, 318 00:13:31,064 --> 00:13:33,704 Speaker 2: And oh my god. It was just so so. 319 00:13:33,864 --> 00:13:36,704 Speaker 1: Incredible acting on his behalf, because you always have to 320 00:13:36,704 --> 00:13:38,904 Speaker 1: be like working harder when the camera's on on you, 321 00:13:39,024 --> 00:13:41,744 Speaker 1: so when it hands over, that storyline is all like 322 00:13:41,824 --> 00:13:43,264 Speaker 1: in place, like you can't fake it. 323 00:13:43,344 --> 00:13:45,384 Speaker 2: Just in those moments, it's just insane and like her 324 00:13:45,424 --> 00:13:47,504 Speaker 2: big dough eyes when she like looks at him and 325 00:13:47,504 --> 00:13:49,264 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, you look like a baby reindeer. 326 00:13:49,584 --> 00:13:50,304 Speaker 2: It's crazy. 327 00:13:50,664 --> 00:13:52,064 Speaker 1: Oh the dreams look like a baby. 328 00:13:52,064 --> 00:13:52,624 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 329 00:13:52,784 --> 00:13:53,544 Speaker 1: We wouldn't be single. 330 00:13:54,144 --> 00:13:57,464 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what we were all just Kate Chalma, use. 331 00:13:57,424 --> 00:13:59,824 Speaker 1: Your favorite moment between them and that whole series, Like, 332 00:13:59,864 --> 00:14:01,464 Speaker 1: do you have one moment where you were just like 333 00:14:01,624 --> 00:14:04,224 Speaker 1: that You had to like grasp your hands in front 334 00:14:04,264 --> 00:14:06,984 Speaker 1: of your chest and like be like, oh my god. 335 00:14:06,624 --> 00:14:10,184 Speaker 2: Okay, this is gonna sound like actually so insignificant. And 336 00:14:10,184 --> 00:14:12,344 Speaker 2: I don't think anyone else would pick this because it's 337 00:14:12,344 --> 00:14:16,024 Speaker 2: not an actual major scene. It's when they're playing what's 338 00:14:16,024 --> 00:14:19,504 Speaker 2: that ball game they played? Yes, and then the way 339 00:14:19,544 --> 00:14:20,424 Speaker 2: croquet before there. 340 00:14:20,464 --> 00:14:22,264 Speaker 1: Do you know last time I played crok was with 341 00:14:22,944 --> 00:14:27,784 Speaker 1: Last time I played croquet was when I was in 342 00:14:27,864 --> 00:14:30,184 Speaker 1: the fake Bridgitt in Australia when they did Bridget came 343 00:14:30,224 --> 00:14:32,984 Speaker 1: to Australia with the Bridgington Cars because we played Croque 344 00:14:33,104 --> 00:14:33,664 Speaker 1: one afternoon. 345 00:14:33,664 --> 00:14:34,184 Speaker 2: Were they good? 346 00:14:34,744 --> 00:14:36,824 Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean they weren't like out mixing with the commoners, 347 00:14:36,824 --> 00:14:39,384 Speaker 1: which is us. They were just watching around and then 348 00:14:39,384 --> 00:14:43,504 Speaker 1: we played Okay, it's getting gladiated the Empress. Yeah, gladiator. 349 00:14:43,784 --> 00:14:45,664 Speaker 1: That was pretty much the vibe, Like that is the 350 00:14:45,704 --> 00:14:46,504 Speaker 1: last time I played. 351 00:14:46,544 --> 00:14:49,384 Speaker 2: Okay, it's called palmel apparently. 352 00:14:49,064 --> 00:14:50,984 Speaker 1: Well again, US comeders call it croquet. 353 00:14:51,544 --> 00:14:54,264 Speaker 2: Anyway, the ball goes away and they both run after 354 00:14:54,264 --> 00:14:57,184 Speaker 2: it because I'm both very competitive, and there's this part 355 00:14:57,384 --> 00:14:59,384 Speaker 2: and I think everyone else missed this, but this is 356 00:14:59,384 --> 00:15:00,224 Speaker 2: the part I played. 357 00:15:00,504 --> 00:15:02,024 Speaker 1: I've seen only you saw in Bridgish. 358 00:15:02,264 --> 00:15:04,464 Speaker 2: Literally, I think I was the only one who saw 359 00:15:04,504 --> 00:15:08,664 Speaker 2: it because it happened so quickly. She jumps over like 360 00:15:08,864 --> 00:15:11,744 Speaker 2: a log to run after the ball, and as she 361 00:15:11,864 --> 00:15:14,704 Speaker 2: jumps over, her dress lifts a little bit and you 362 00:15:14,784 --> 00:15:16,384 Speaker 2: see like a bit of her upper thigh. 363 00:15:16,584 --> 00:15:17,744 Speaker 1: Oh scin. 364 00:15:18,184 --> 00:15:20,864 Speaker 2: She runs away, I want to show an ankle, and 365 00:15:20,904 --> 00:15:22,704 Speaker 2: she runs away like to follow the ball. She has 366 00:15:22,704 --> 00:15:25,184 Speaker 2: no idea what she's doing. And he just immediately stops 367 00:15:25,184 --> 00:15:27,824 Speaker 2: in this track and just stares at the spot on 368 00:15:27,864 --> 00:15:30,464 Speaker 2: where she jumped over the log. Ah, that's so hot, 369 00:15:30,904 --> 00:15:34,144 Speaker 2: Oh my god, like insane. It's like she has no 370 00:15:34,224 --> 00:15:35,184 Speaker 2: idea he's doing that. 371 00:15:35,464 --> 00:15:38,904 Speaker 1: Yeah, this moment being. 372 00:15:38,784 --> 00:15:41,024 Speaker 2: Yearned after without realizing you're being yearned after. 373 00:15:41,024 --> 00:15:42,344 Speaker 1: I know that's the dream. 374 00:15:42,224 --> 00:15:44,304 Speaker 2: And then like only when you realize and then you 375 00:15:44,304 --> 00:15:46,824 Speaker 2: start replaying the things back in your head. And then 376 00:15:46,824 --> 00:15:47,504 Speaker 2: he did this, and. 377 00:15:47,464 --> 00:15:49,104 Speaker 1: Then he did this, and I was like, oh, I 378 00:15:49,144 --> 00:15:51,024 Speaker 1: know you wanted it in their love story to work 379 00:15:51,064 --> 00:15:52,944 Speaker 1: out so badly that I was like, I don't even 380 00:15:52,944 --> 00:15:59,784 Speaker 1: care about this stuff was ruining this TV show for 381 00:15:59,824 --> 00:16:03,624 Speaker 1: all of us, and go away. My cutest part for 382 00:16:03,664 --> 00:16:06,184 Speaker 1: them in that season was the moment when they're in 383 00:16:06,224 --> 00:16:08,984 Speaker 1: the bee No the b Membu laughed, Sorry, that was embarrassing. 384 00:16:09,384 --> 00:16:11,504 Speaker 1: I know he is traumatized by his father. I know 385 00:16:11,544 --> 00:16:12,504 Speaker 1: he's trauma tizeda. 386 00:16:13,704 --> 00:16:15,224 Speaker 2: I know when my dog got a bee sing, I 387 00:16:15,264 --> 00:16:16,704 Speaker 2: got really sad because I thought he. 388 00:16:16,704 --> 00:16:18,504 Speaker 1: Was going to know and look, I'm deathely allergic to 389 00:16:18,504 --> 00:16:20,584 Speaker 1: be so I related to the British ins in that sense. 390 00:16:20,624 --> 00:16:22,264 Speaker 1: But it was just like the bee pops up and 391 00:16:22,304 --> 00:16:24,344 Speaker 1: he's just like, he just has a panic attack. And 392 00:16:24,344 --> 00:16:25,344 Speaker 1: that's not against Jonathan Bi. 393 00:16:25,464 --> 00:16:26,864 Speaker 2: That's how you're they're going to end up together. Because 394 00:16:26,864 --> 00:16:28,464 Speaker 2: she didn't get the ick, she. 395 00:16:28,504 --> 00:16:30,224 Speaker 1: Helped him and that was the moment she was she 396 00:16:30,264 --> 00:16:31,864 Speaker 1: should have got the ick for him in that moment. 397 00:16:31,904 --> 00:16:34,024 Speaker 1: I would have been so on her side. For that. No, 398 00:16:34,104 --> 00:16:36,264 Speaker 1: the part I love the most is when she jumps 399 00:16:36,264 --> 00:16:38,544 Speaker 1: and she falls off the horse and he goes kate 400 00:16:42,184 --> 00:16:45,464 Speaker 1: because he's so tight. He just yells her name and 401 00:16:45,544 --> 00:16:46,944 Speaker 1: jumps off his horse and runs over. 402 00:16:46,984 --> 00:16:48,344 Speaker 2: And that was a beautiful scene in the way she 403 00:16:48,384 --> 00:16:51,064 Speaker 2: fell as well, Oh my god, beautiful, perfectly in the mud. 404 00:16:51,384 --> 00:16:53,064 Speaker 2: And then she's suddenly in bed clean. 405 00:16:52,904 --> 00:16:58,104 Speaker 1: I know, and she just wakes up modern medicine from the. 406 00:16:59,104 --> 00:17:01,264 Speaker 2: Fine when I wake up from like an every day now, 407 00:17:01,264 --> 00:17:05,104 Speaker 2: but I'm like, she's coming up from a coma. 408 00:17:05,144 --> 00:17:08,344 Speaker 1: She's like, hello, she looks more beautiful to me. She 409 00:17:08,384 --> 00:17:12,144 Speaker 1: looks more beautiful on a coma than we look doing this. 410 00:17:13,264 --> 00:17:15,864 Speaker 2: She looks beautiful, And imagine looking that good in a coma. 411 00:17:16,184 --> 00:17:19,744 Speaker 1: Oh again, the dream, the dream, but yeah. 412 00:17:19,264 --> 00:17:21,024 Speaker 2: And a coma, the dream again. 413 00:17:21,104 --> 00:17:23,624 Speaker 1: I'll never looked that beautiful. That's the moment where I 414 00:17:23,664 --> 00:17:26,264 Speaker 1: feel like he realizes how desperately he is in love 415 00:17:26,304 --> 00:17:28,504 Speaker 1: with her. He'd been denying it up into that moment. 416 00:17:28,664 --> 00:17:29,744 Speaker 1: So that's so good. 417 00:17:29,864 --> 00:17:31,824 Speaker 2: That's actually a good strategy. So next time I go 418 00:17:31,864 --> 00:17:33,304 Speaker 2: on a date, if I want to figure out if 419 00:17:33,304 --> 00:17:34,824 Speaker 2: he likes me not, I'll just fall off a horse. 420 00:17:34,944 --> 00:17:36,024 Speaker 1: Yeah, or jump over log. 421 00:17:36,264 --> 00:17:38,664 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, and if he chases after me and then 422 00:17:38,664 --> 00:17:41,304 Speaker 2: he likes me, then if he does a poor messcord. 423 00:17:40,984 --> 00:17:44,904 Speaker 1: It means he doesn't get the thighs out. Okay, this 424 00:17:44,944 --> 00:17:46,384 Speaker 1: is a couple of I don't think I've ever talked 425 00:17:46,384 --> 00:17:48,544 Speaker 1: about in this podcast before, and it's one of my 426 00:17:48,584 --> 00:17:49,944 Speaker 1: favorites of all all times. 427 00:17:49,944 --> 00:17:51,584 Speaker 2: Surely you've talked about him. 428 00:17:51,264 --> 00:17:54,584 Speaker 1: M Did you watch any shows in the Arrow verse? 429 00:17:54,864 --> 00:17:58,424 Speaker 1: In the in the Arrow verse like the superhero oh Arrow? 430 00:17:58,624 --> 00:18:02,824 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I love Katie Cassidy. Yeah, because 431 00:18:02,864 --> 00:18:06,744 Speaker 2: she dated Jesse McCartney. It was my actually I hated 432 00:18:06,744 --> 00:18:09,264 Speaker 2: her at the time, but now and now I'm like 433 00:18:09,344 --> 00:18:10,824 Speaker 2: you go girl me. 434 00:18:10,904 --> 00:18:12,904 Speaker 1: But now you've got found common ground because you're both 435 00:18:12,984 --> 00:18:13,424 Speaker 1: not dating. 436 00:18:13,424 --> 00:18:15,624 Speaker 2: Just in my case we both didn't make it, so 437 00:18:15,624 --> 00:18:16,704 Speaker 2: we're both kind of the same. 438 00:18:17,504 --> 00:18:19,744 Speaker 1: Okay, if you like Katie Cassidy, then you're actually not 439 00:18:19,784 --> 00:18:20,544 Speaker 1: gonna like this next. 440 00:18:20,584 --> 00:18:23,904 Speaker 2: And the guy sorry, so the guy who plays Arrow 441 00:18:24,664 --> 00:18:28,664 Speaker 2: is cousins with the guy in Robbie and I love 442 00:18:28,744 --> 00:18:32,664 Speaker 2: Robbie aml Yeah he's also and he follows Stephen. 443 00:18:32,784 --> 00:18:35,984 Speaker 1: Yeah, he does their cousins sorry, so no, no, no, no, 444 00:18:36,104 --> 00:18:36,624 Speaker 1: that's all good. 445 00:18:36,664 --> 00:18:40,344 Speaker 2: Really good listening on my Arrows as much as I know, 446 00:18:40,624 --> 00:18:41,984 Speaker 2: and what else do I know about it? 447 00:18:42,384 --> 00:18:44,984 Speaker 1: No? No, but and then the Flash comes in. Yeah, 448 00:18:44,984 --> 00:18:46,904 Speaker 1: you've really set the stakes high because you're not gonna 449 00:18:46,944 --> 00:18:48,744 Speaker 1: like this. So yes, Arrow came out and it was 450 00:18:48,784 --> 00:18:52,024 Speaker 1: like the start of like this superhero franchise. It became 451 00:18:52,104 --> 00:18:52,944 Speaker 1: such a huge show. 452 00:18:53,024 --> 00:18:54,224 Speaker 2: You're only allowed to be on that show. 453 00:18:54,264 --> 00:18:56,744 Speaker 1: I you're het, absolutely, I only want to hot people 454 00:18:56,744 --> 00:18:58,824 Speaker 1: in my superhero shows. That's why I don't like all 455 00:18:58,824 --> 00:19:02,824 Speaker 1: this gritty real TV. Sorry, sorry, I lived that. 456 00:19:03,144 --> 00:19:06,064 Speaker 2: I just want to hop the office. 457 00:19:05,024 --> 00:19:10,224 Speaker 1: The people now are just like it's so realistic. I'm sorry. 458 00:19:10,464 --> 00:19:12,864 Speaker 1: I also feel like in TV shows, undless there's a 459 00:19:12,864 --> 00:19:14,824 Speaker 1: supernatural threat to the world, then you don't have any 460 00:19:14,864 --> 00:19:17,744 Speaker 1: real problems if anything else can be fixed, I agree. 461 00:19:17,864 --> 00:19:20,704 Speaker 1: So I only really feel for characters in a supernatural setting. 462 00:19:20,784 --> 00:19:23,904 Speaker 1: So Arrow came out, and then the Flash, and then 463 00:19:24,064 --> 00:19:27,144 Speaker 1: Supergirl and then Batgirl and then Legends of Tomorrow. But anyway, 464 00:19:27,184 --> 00:19:30,584 Speaker 1: the real anchor show in this huge TV universe that 465 00:19:30,704 --> 00:19:33,544 Speaker 1: was built and ran for many many years was Arrow. 466 00:19:34,104 --> 00:19:37,264 Speaker 1: And that started off with Steven Emmel, the cousin of 467 00:19:37,304 --> 00:19:38,424 Speaker 1: your favorite actor. 468 00:19:38,464 --> 00:19:39,264 Speaker 2: He's also very hard. 469 00:19:39,344 --> 00:19:42,704 Speaker 1: He's also the leading man, yes, playing the Green Arrow. 470 00:19:42,744 --> 00:19:44,624 Speaker 2: So he's a superhero and he kind of has like 471 00:19:44,664 --> 00:19:46,824 Speaker 2: a Batman vibe where he's like super super rich and 472 00:19:46,824 --> 00:19:48,144 Speaker 2: then he's like a vigilante. 473 00:19:48,224 --> 00:19:51,584 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's kind of the it's kind of very Yeah, 474 00:19:51,624 --> 00:19:53,544 Speaker 1: he does get called a vigilante. So he is the 475 00:19:53,544 --> 00:19:55,744 Speaker 1: star of the show. He's the leading man, he's the superhero. 476 00:19:56,184 --> 00:20:01,144 Speaker 1: And Katie Cassidy, Yes, Jessi McCartney's ex gul also David 477 00:20:01,144 --> 00:20:03,064 Speaker 1: Cassidy's daughter in a very well known actress in her 478 00:20:03,104 --> 00:20:03,504 Speaker 1: own riot. 479 00:20:03,624 --> 00:20:04,504 Speaker 2: She was a Dallas. 480 00:20:04,624 --> 00:20:09,864 Speaker 1: Yes, she plays We're are these facts coming from someone 481 00:20:09,944 --> 00:20:10,344 Speaker 1: knows how. 482 00:20:10,224 --> 00:20:12,784 Speaker 2: They I've never talked about this in my life, and we've. 483 00:20:12,624 --> 00:20:14,704 Speaker 1: Never talked about this before. It's like, all of a sudden, 484 00:20:14,704 --> 00:20:16,904 Speaker 1: you have all these hidden like what's the arrow pass? 485 00:20:17,064 --> 00:20:17,944 Speaker 2: Like this happened. 486 00:20:17,944 --> 00:20:21,984 Speaker 1: Apparently someone's a secret fan. So Katie Cassidan was hired 487 00:20:21,984 --> 00:20:24,064 Speaker 1: to play Laurel Lance. Now, yeah, this was a huge 488 00:20:24,144 --> 00:20:26,904 Speaker 1: role because Laurel Lance is huge U dude in the 489 00:20:26,904 --> 00:20:29,544 Speaker 1: comics and she was really set up to be a 490 00:20:29,544 --> 00:20:30,504 Speaker 1: big hero in. 491 00:20:30,424 --> 00:20:31,344 Speaker 2: The Laurel Lance. 492 00:20:31,464 --> 00:20:33,584 Speaker 1: Yeah, Laurel Lance, and she will. 493 00:20:33,424 --> 00:20:35,464 Speaker 2: Well know where they got that from Lois Lane. 494 00:20:35,584 --> 00:20:37,144 Speaker 1: She was really set up to be not only the 495 00:20:37,224 --> 00:20:39,664 Speaker 1: leading lady of the show and all of the Queen's 496 00:20:39,744 --> 00:20:41,584 Speaker 1: main love introns, because the whole thing is that they 497 00:20:41,624 --> 00:20:44,984 Speaker 1: were dating. And then he gets he has cried. He 498 00:20:45,024 --> 00:20:47,544 Speaker 1: gets trapped on this island for many, many, many years 499 00:20:47,544 --> 00:20:49,704 Speaker 1: where he learns to be a superhero and then he's, oh. 500 00:20:49,584 --> 00:20:51,824 Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's that one arrow guy and he teaches 501 00:20:51,904 --> 00:20:52,744 Speaker 2: him arrowing. 502 00:20:52,984 --> 00:20:56,264 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm just called not even close. I kin'd 503 00:20:56,304 --> 00:20:57,064 Speaker 1: even get into that. 504 00:20:57,024 --> 00:21:04,384 Speaker 2: Archery barrowing close. I beg you to stop trying to Sorry, sorry, continue, 505 00:21:04,464 --> 00:21:05,584 Speaker 2: Let's get to the yearning. 506 00:21:06,104 --> 00:21:07,624 Speaker 1: Please stop trying to explain the stage. 507 00:21:09,584 --> 00:21:12,464 Speaker 2: I've got this. Don't hurry, I'll be I've got this. 508 00:21:13,664 --> 00:21:17,184 Speaker 1: Stop. So Laura LED's Katie Cassidy's character. She thinks she's 509 00:21:17,184 --> 00:21:18,664 Speaker 1: got it mate, because she is the leading lady this 510 00:21:18,784 --> 00:21:21,664 Speaker 1: TV shes so. A side character they had cast in 511 00:21:21,704 --> 00:21:24,944 Speaker 1: the show is played by an actress called Emily Betrickins, 512 00:21:25,064 --> 00:21:28,704 Speaker 1: who is like people people like her. She plays Felicity Smoke, 513 00:21:28,944 --> 00:21:31,344 Speaker 1: who is the kind of computer genius. 514 00:21:31,544 --> 00:21:33,984 Speaker 2: She's that situation they're like, I can't get into this building. 515 00:21:34,064 --> 00:21:34,824 Speaker 2: She's like, hold on. 516 00:21:35,944 --> 00:21:39,864 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's trying. Now, it's exactly like that, that's exactly what. 517 00:21:41,664 --> 00:21:46,264 Speaker 2: Now they're everywhere's my boyfriend, Everywhere's my archery boyfriend. 518 00:21:46,984 --> 00:21:51,064 Speaker 1: Every superhero show has one person who's the nerd who 519 00:21:51,104 --> 00:21:54,904 Speaker 1: can kind of do everything. They know chemistry, they know calculus, 520 00:21:55,024 --> 00:21:58,144 Speaker 1: they know like ero dynamics, and then they got kicked 521 00:21:58,144 --> 00:22:01,944 Speaker 1: out of Yale. Yeah, yeah, for hacking. That's kind of 522 00:22:01,944 --> 00:22:04,544 Speaker 1: her storyline as well. So she's an absolute genius. She's 523 00:22:04,624 --> 00:22:06,664 Speaker 1: working at the company that his family owns because they're 524 00:22:06,664 --> 00:22:08,824 Speaker 1: like billionaires, and he starts to get her to help 525 00:22:08,864 --> 00:22:11,304 Speaker 1: with things with she's such a genius. She discovers he 526 00:22:11,464 --> 00:22:14,984 Speaker 1: is the Arrow, and then she kind of starts helping him. 527 00:22:15,064 --> 00:22:18,344 Speaker 1: And they're such opposites, like he's this kind of billionaire 528 00:22:18,384 --> 00:22:22,904 Speaker 1: playboy turned like really gruff superhero who's like, no one 529 00:22:22,944 --> 00:22:24,864 Speaker 1: can be close to me because I fear to protect 530 00:22:24,864 --> 00:22:27,184 Speaker 1: the city, like that kind of vibe. And also he's 531 00:22:27,184 --> 00:22:27,744 Speaker 1: got this thing with. 532 00:22:27,704 --> 00:22:34,544 Speaker 2: On an island but flashed back to the island. 533 00:22:36,344 --> 00:22:38,664 Speaker 1: The island, Yeah, yeah, exactly is ever a long time, Wow, 534 00:22:38,784 --> 00:22:41,904 Speaker 1: you've lost this show. Come from such a good show, 535 00:22:41,944 --> 00:22:45,184 Speaker 1: by the way, but then slowly over time slowly, slowly, 536 00:22:46,024 --> 00:22:51,504 Speaker 1: Felicity and Oliver's chemistry just grows and grows and grows 537 00:22:51,624 --> 00:22:54,664 Speaker 1: and grows, and the fans are obsessed with them. The 538 00:22:54,704 --> 00:22:57,064 Speaker 1: writers start to be obsessed with them. They were never 539 00:22:57,104 --> 00:22:58,744 Speaker 1: meant to be a couple. She was always just meant 540 00:22:58,784 --> 00:23:00,744 Speaker 1: to be a side character and potentially written out after 541 00:23:00,784 --> 00:23:03,824 Speaker 1: two seasons. The writers see this and they change the 542 00:23:04,064 --> 00:23:07,584 Speaker 1: entire show. Katie Cassidy gets fired. They bring her back 543 00:23:07,664 --> 00:23:09,744 Speaker 1: later as a different character because I think they felt bad, 544 00:23:09,944 --> 00:23:12,144 Speaker 1: but she was really upset. She's found character. 545 00:23:12,224 --> 00:23:13,904 Speaker 2: Yeah, they bring her they do a multiverse thing. 546 00:23:13,984 --> 00:23:16,224 Speaker 1: Yeah, they bring her back, is like the same character 547 00:23:16,264 --> 00:23:20,464 Speaker 1: from Diverse. She found out she'd lost her job for 548 00:23:20,504 --> 00:23:23,144 Speaker 1: not having chemistry with Steven Emmel and not being able 549 00:23:23,104 --> 00:23:26,864 Speaker 1: to McCartney. On the way to a comic con to 550 00:23:26,904 --> 00:23:29,064 Speaker 1: promote the show, she found out that they'd written her off. 551 00:23:29,384 --> 00:23:30,664 Speaker 2: Is that because they broke up so and then they 552 00:23:30,664 --> 00:23:32,184 Speaker 2: physically didn't have any chemistry? 553 00:23:32,344 --> 00:23:33,984 Speaker 1: No, no, no, they would not. None of these people ever dated. 554 00:23:34,024 --> 00:23:38,064 Speaker 1: Behind the on screen, they were like, your character's not working, 555 00:23:38,104 --> 00:23:40,864 Speaker 1: we're taking you out. And the whole show that it 556 00:23:40,904 --> 00:23:42,424 Speaker 1: was never meant to be a romanch show, that all 557 00:23:42,424 --> 00:23:46,144 Speaker 1: of Arrow becomes about Felicity and Oliver and their incredible 558 00:23:46,224 --> 00:23:49,784 Speaker 1: chemistry in their relationship. It's called like the illicity factor, 559 00:23:49,944 --> 00:23:52,584 Speaker 1: like people started calling them that, and it just goes 560 00:23:52,624 --> 00:23:57,304 Speaker 1: to show that sometimes chemistry and I honestly believe that 561 00:23:57,344 --> 00:23:59,984 Speaker 1: these characters all exist somewhere in like a fictional realm, 562 00:24:00,144 --> 00:24:02,784 Speaker 1: and sometimes they just have their own idea of where 563 00:24:02,824 --> 00:24:04,384 Speaker 1: they're going to go, and even the writers who are 564 00:24:04,384 --> 00:24:05,424 Speaker 1: creating them can't stop it. 565 00:24:05,584 --> 00:24:08,224 Speaker 2: Yeah, call the scientist and have you. 566 00:24:08,224 --> 00:24:09,984 Speaker 1: Watched the last few seasons Arrow, since it seems to 567 00:24:10,024 --> 00:24:10,344 Speaker 1: be a favorit. 568 00:24:10,544 --> 00:24:14,824 Speaker 2: I don't recall watching any of it. You know, all 569 00:24:14,864 --> 00:24:16,224 Speaker 2: of that, I don't remember. 570 00:24:17,344 --> 00:24:20,064 Speaker 1: You're like bringing up like little Deer, how am I 571 00:24:20,104 --> 00:24:23,024 Speaker 1: doing that? Well, they end up having like children, they 572 00:24:23,144 --> 00:24:27,544 Speaker 1: end up aging in a way, aging some there's death, 573 00:24:27,624 --> 00:24:31,384 Speaker 1: there's other world. There's their daughter fights alongside them in 574 00:24:31,424 --> 00:24:35,104 Speaker 1: the end of the world. Yeah, it's a whole huge thing, 575 00:24:35,824 --> 00:24:37,784 Speaker 1: like literally, you know how like all of a sudden 576 00:24:37,784 --> 00:24:40,224 Speaker 1: when you're watching a TV show and all of a sudden, 577 00:24:40,264 --> 00:24:42,784 Speaker 1: this unexpected romance pops up and it just becomes your 578 00:24:42,944 --> 00:24:45,264 Speaker 1: entire life, Like all you want to do home, go 579 00:24:45,344 --> 00:24:46,944 Speaker 1: home and watch it. And then like you watch like 580 00:24:47,024 --> 00:24:49,384 Speaker 1: certain scenes over and over and over again from it, 581 00:24:49,584 --> 00:24:51,344 Speaker 1: and it's not even that. It's like like Aara doesn't 582 00:24:51,384 --> 00:24:53,544 Speaker 1: have like any sex scenes or anything like that. It's 583 00:24:53,544 --> 00:24:56,904 Speaker 1: not that type of show, but it just the chemistry 584 00:24:56,984 --> 00:25:01,224 Speaker 1: is so good that it like surpasses everything else. And 585 00:25:01,264 --> 00:25:05,224 Speaker 1: again it was, yeah, well, at least go back and 586 00:25:05,224 --> 00:25:07,384 Speaker 1: watched the first couple of seasons where like the slogann 587 00:25:07,504 --> 00:25:10,224 Speaker 1: of their relationship, all of the hooks up with Laurel's sister, 588 00:25:10,824 --> 00:25:12,784 Speaker 1: Sarah Lance, because that's the whole thing. He was cheating 589 00:25:12,824 --> 00:25:15,624 Speaker 1: on her. It's kind of like regretting you. He's when 590 00:25:15,624 --> 00:25:17,024 Speaker 1: he gets stuck on the island. He was on a 591 00:25:17,064 --> 00:25:19,584 Speaker 1: boat with her sister. And then she comes back and 592 00:25:19,624 --> 00:25:21,304 Speaker 1: she becomes a superhero. Then she goes off to lead 593 00:25:21,304 --> 00:25:23,704 Speaker 1: her own superhero show. It's a whole thing. It's a 594 00:25:23,744 --> 00:25:24,024 Speaker 1: little bit. 595 00:25:24,344 --> 00:25:27,064 Speaker 2: I think I've seen it in like proxy with other 596 00:25:27,064 --> 00:25:29,184 Speaker 2: shows because there's a lot of crossovers. 597 00:25:28,544 --> 00:25:31,704 Speaker 1: With Yeah, every season they started doing those crossover The 598 00:25:31,784 --> 00:25:33,984 Speaker 1: multiverse got to make that money so good, so you 599 00:25:34,104 --> 00:25:35,384 Speaker 1: have like the character. 600 00:25:37,184 --> 00:25:38,104 Speaker 2: Brothers cousins. 601 00:25:38,224 --> 00:25:40,104 Speaker 1: I can't stress enough how much Robbie mel is not 602 00:25:40,104 --> 00:25:40,424 Speaker 1: part of the. 603 00:25:40,384 --> 00:25:41,384 Speaker 2: Shit dies quite early. 604 00:25:41,664 --> 00:25:45,704 Speaker 1: He leaves, he becomes he's in the flash, yes, and 605 00:25:45,784 --> 00:25:49,064 Speaker 1: he takes off. He gets killed when they're in, goes 606 00:25:49,064 --> 00:25:49,584 Speaker 1: off yet and. 607 00:25:49,504 --> 00:25:50,384 Speaker 2: She's like, oh my god. 608 00:25:50,584 --> 00:25:51,664 Speaker 1: Yeah, but then she hooks. 609 00:25:51,464 --> 00:25:51,744 Speaker 2: Up with. 610 00:25:53,984 --> 00:26:01,184 Speaker 1: But begging you to like not help, sorry, but yeah, 611 00:26:01,224 --> 00:26:03,144 Speaker 1: the olicity factor. I'd never seen anything like it. I 612 00:26:03,184 --> 00:26:06,224 Speaker 1: even saw like when that was building up so much, 613 00:26:06,464 --> 00:26:08,904 Speaker 1: all these book editors and publishers on Twitter like putting 614 00:26:08,904 --> 00:26:11,184 Speaker 1: out calls for writers. They're like this, anyone have an 615 00:26:11,184 --> 00:26:13,464 Speaker 1: elicity of romance, send it to us, because like the 616 00:26:13,504 --> 00:26:15,064 Speaker 1: fan of was someone tense. They're like, this is our 617 00:26:15,104 --> 00:26:17,744 Speaker 1: time to like put books not about those particular characters, 618 00:26:17,784 --> 00:26:20,384 Speaker 1: but a similar type of story. They're like, this is 619 00:26:20,424 --> 00:26:23,424 Speaker 1: what everyone wants to read. This kind of like complete 620 00:26:23,464 --> 00:26:26,384 Speaker 1: opposites attract slow, bad kind of thing. 621 00:26:26,544 --> 00:26:28,384 Speaker 2: And so if we can add that to our list 622 00:26:28,424 --> 00:26:29,864 Speaker 2: of like Transformers fan fiction. 623 00:26:30,104 --> 00:26:32,024 Speaker 1: Yeah, the next book that we're gonna write after we 624 00:26:32,064 --> 00:26:36,104 Speaker 1: write our Transformers smart which we promised in last week, 625 00:26:36,344 --> 00:26:36,944 Speaker 1: we can watch. 626 00:26:39,784 --> 00:26:42,664 Speaker 2: Okay, this last one I have. I feel like everyone's 627 00:26:42,664 --> 00:26:44,944 Speaker 2: going to agree with this, yes, Like you can't deny 628 00:26:44,984 --> 00:26:47,584 Speaker 2: these people didn't have chemistry, except it's a really sad 629 00:26:48,184 --> 00:26:52,144 Speaker 2: one because the characters don't end up together, and everyone 630 00:26:52,304 --> 00:26:55,144 Speaker 2: was just I don't know a single person who didn't 631 00:26:55,184 --> 00:27:01,344 Speaker 2: cry at the end of this Fleabag oh yeah, Fleabag 632 00:27:01,424 --> 00:27:03,984 Speaker 2: and the hot Priest, Yeah, I almost. 633 00:27:04,344 --> 00:27:06,384 Speaker 1: I don't know if I was upset that they didn't 634 00:27:06,464 --> 00:27:08,904 Speaker 1: end up together because I saw that for them, oh 635 00:27:08,944 --> 00:27:11,584 Speaker 1: my God, to be together. I think that he just 636 00:27:11,624 --> 00:27:13,344 Speaker 1: came into her life at the time when she kind 637 00:27:13,384 --> 00:27:16,544 Speaker 1: of needed something, and he just gave her something she needed. 638 00:27:16,544 --> 00:27:17,824 Speaker 1: But I never saw them as endgame. 639 00:27:18,024 --> 00:27:21,984 Speaker 2: No, I'm obsessed with them. I just love them together. 640 00:27:22,024 --> 00:27:23,064 Speaker 2: I wanted every scene. 641 00:27:22,904 --> 00:27:24,424 Speaker 1: To be with Tell in case anyone hasn't seen it, 642 00:27:24,424 --> 00:27:26,144 Speaker 1: can you set the scene a bit since she told 643 00:27:26,184 --> 00:27:27,504 Speaker 1: the plot of the show for me that you hadn't 644 00:27:27,544 --> 00:27:29,024 Speaker 1: seen before. Do you know how can you tell the 645 00:27:29,024 --> 00:27:32,544 Speaker 1: plot of a show you have seen multiple times? So 646 00:27:32,584 --> 00:27:33,864 Speaker 1: that wasn't meant to be a trick question. 647 00:27:33,944 --> 00:27:37,424 Speaker 2: So the main character, Phoebe Ola Bridge plays Fleabag. 648 00:27:37,504 --> 00:27:37,704 Speaker 1: Yep. 649 00:27:38,104 --> 00:27:41,064 Speaker 2: She's in her thirties, I think, yep. 650 00:27:41,104 --> 00:27:43,104 Speaker 1: And she's gone acting like you've never seen the show now, 651 00:27:43,304 --> 00:27:43,744 Speaker 1: and I'm. 652 00:27:43,664 --> 00:27:46,464 Speaker 2: Quite confused on what the show's about. It kind of 653 00:27:46,504 --> 00:27:48,464 Speaker 2: goes through her life and she has a very messy life. 654 00:27:48,584 --> 00:27:49,344 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. 655 00:27:49,904 --> 00:27:52,704 Speaker 2: And she makes a hot priest and then the hot 656 00:27:52,744 --> 00:27:56,024 Speaker 2: priest is like, can I give up the church to 657 00:27:56,064 --> 00:27:58,464 Speaker 2: be with you? And then he can't. He can't give 658 00:27:58,544 --> 00:27:59,504 Speaker 2: up God because. 659 00:27:59,264 --> 00:28:01,024 Speaker 1: The idea of Fleabag is like, yeah, she's going through 660 00:28:01,064 --> 00:28:03,704 Speaker 1: like these huge family traumas and like life traumas, and 661 00:28:03,744 --> 00:28:06,624 Speaker 1: life is messy and things are difficult, and she talks 662 00:28:06,664 --> 00:28:09,224 Speaker 1: to the camera and she like lives in her own world. 663 00:28:08,504 --> 00:28:10,024 Speaker 2: She breaks the fault. 664 00:28:10,104 --> 00:28:12,344 Speaker 1: She lives in a world where nowhere else can see her, 665 00:28:12,384 --> 00:28:14,904 Speaker 1: where she sees herself as a different character, and then 666 00:28:14,944 --> 00:28:16,984 Speaker 1: the priest is the only one who really sees her. 667 00:28:17,544 --> 00:28:21,064 Speaker 1: He sees her. He notices when she does that, when 668 00:28:21,064 --> 00:28:23,624 Speaker 1: she goes into her own world, when she disassociates, and 669 00:28:23,664 --> 00:28:25,704 Speaker 1: he pulls her out of it, and it goes on 670 00:28:25,784 --> 00:28:27,704 Speaker 1: to show her that she doesn't have to live in 671 00:28:27,704 --> 00:28:30,064 Speaker 1: that world by herself, that if she finds the right person, 672 00:28:30,104 --> 00:28:32,304 Speaker 1: and it's not him, but if she finds the right person, 673 00:28:32,464 --> 00:28:37,464 Speaker 1: she can let someone into this world she's created. Did 674 00:28:37,504 --> 00:28:38,344 Speaker 1: you never pick that up before? 675 00:28:38,464 --> 00:28:41,904 Speaker 2: It is No. My favorite scene is an opening scene 676 00:28:42,184 --> 00:28:44,504 Speaker 2: where like she's like breaking the fourth wall, addressing the 677 00:28:44,544 --> 00:28:46,664 Speaker 2: camera like in her own world, and she's like, no 678 00:28:46,664 --> 00:28:48,584 Speaker 2: one's asked me a question in forty five minutes, and 679 00:28:48,624 --> 00:28:50,304 Speaker 2: as he cuts her off and he's like, so what 680 00:28:50,344 --> 00:28:52,664 Speaker 2: do you do? And I was like, oh my god, 681 00:28:53,064 --> 00:28:53,704 Speaker 2: that is hot. 682 00:28:54,184 --> 00:28:54,784 Speaker 1: It is hot. 683 00:28:54,824 --> 00:28:57,744 Speaker 2: And that's like the first thing you ever see them interacting, 684 00:28:57,784 --> 00:28:59,264 Speaker 2: the first time you ever see them interact, and you're like, 685 00:28:59,264 --> 00:29:00,104 Speaker 2: that is the hottest thing. 686 00:29:00,184 --> 00:29:01,904 Speaker 1: Doesn't that go to show just like how low the 687 00:29:01,904 --> 00:29:03,864 Speaker 1: bar is? Like women just want men to ask my 688 00:29:03,984 --> 00:29:06,384 Speaker 1: question and actually be interested in it now and then, 689 00:29:06,384 --> 00:29:07,584 Speaker 1: and it can just be what are you doing? 690 00:29:07,744 --> 00:29:09,304 Speaker 2: She was like, I love you and he was like, 691 00:29:09,384 --> 00:29:13,424 Speaker 2: it'll pass, it'll pass, And I got a gas out 692 00:29:13,464 --> 00:29:14,384 Speaker 2: of Georgie. 693 00:29:15,304 --> 00:29:16,464 Speaker 1: I know we're going to kill our producer. 694 00:29:17,184 --> 00:29:18,824 Speaker 2: To watch the show again, I always have to watch 695 00:29:18,864 --> 00:29:20,584 Speaker 2: season one though, because season two is too sad. 696 00:29:20,944 --> 00:29:22,544 Speaker 1: When he says it will pass, I think what he 697 00:29:22,584 --> 00:29:24,624 Speaker 1: means is not like this was nothing, you'll get over it. 698 00:29:24,664 --> 00:29:26,704 Speaker 1: He means it'll pass on to someone else. I know 699 00:29:26,824 --> 00:29:28,904 Speaker 1: this feeling that you have for it, And he's doing that. 700 00:29:28,824 --> 00:29:30,944 Speaker 2: For her, Yeah, because he loves her too. 701 00:29:31,184 --> 00:29:33,224 Speaker 1: He loves her too. They just know that that's not. 702 00:29:33,224 --> 00:29:35,864 Speaker 2: Their pH God, why do you have to do that? 703 00:29:37,304 --> 00:29:40,744 Speaker 1: Such good TV? And then Phoebe roller Bridge disappeared into 704 00:29:40,744 --> 00:29:42,104 Speaker 1: the world and does not mean. 705 00:29:42,064 --> 00:29:43,904 Speaker 2: Anything, meant to be a mister and missus Smith. 706 00:29:44,024 --> 00:29:48,104 Speaker 1: Yeah, but they had created differences, which with your favorite person. Yeah, 707 00:29:48,224 --> 00:29:51,424 Speaker 1: don't glover, how do you pick a side? 708 00:29:51,504 --> 00:29:52,664 Speaker 2: Good chemistry with everyone? 709 00:29:52,744 --> 00:29:55,304 Speaker 1: I know it's not her. Yeah, yeah, it's okay, don't know. 710 00:29:55,384 --> 00:29:57,264 Speaker 1: She's She's given us enough. I know she is working 711 00:29:57,264 --> 00:29:59,304 Speaker 1: on things. I think everyone's just looking for that next 712 00:29:59,384 --> 00:30:01,664 Speaker 1: huge project. It's coming, it's coming. 713 00:30:01,864 --> 00:30:04,144 Speaker 2: I just love them together, flee back. 714 00:30:04,144 --> 00:30:06,024 Speaker 1: I've watched it in so long. It came out so 715 00:30:06,184 --> 00:30:08,464 Speaker 1: long ago, seven years something like that. 716 00:30:08,504 --> 00:30:10,784 Speaker 2: I know, I really wanted another season. 717 00:30:11,664 --> 00:30:11,744 Speaker 1: No. 718 00:30:11,824 --> 00:30:14,824 Speaker 2: I think she's so good at knowing when to end stuffy. 719 00:30:15,024 --> 00:30:16,704 Speaker 1: Yeah, she knew because she could have got like a 720 00:30:16,704 --> 00:30:17,464 Speaker 1: five year deal. 721 00:30:17,344 --> 00:30:21,584 Speaker 2: For that show she did before that with Jonathan Bailey 722 00:30:21,624 --> 00:30:24,064 Speaker 2: and when they were all living in that hospital. Yeah, 723 00:30:24,104 --> 00:30:26,344 Speaker 2: and it was like one season or something. And she 724 00:30:26,464 --> 00:30:27,664 Speaker 2: just knows when to end it. 725 00:30:27,744 --> 00:30:31,144 Speaker 1: I never know it when to end anything. Every episode 726 00:30:31,224 --> 00:30:32,304 Speaker 1: is probably two hours. 727 00:30:34,224 --> 00:30:34,584 Speaker 2: The rest of it. 728 00:30:34,744 --> 00:30:36,344 Speaker 1: I have Phoebe wall Abridge here to teach us how 729 00:30:36,344 --> 00:30:39,864 Speaker 1: to edit. Okay, okay, I saved my favorite one for 730 00:30:39,864 --> 00:30:40,344 Speaker 1: the end. 731 00:30:40,544 --> 00:30:43,104 Speaker 2: I know, I know you're so excited for it. 732 00:30:43,384 --> 00:30:45,184 Speaker 1: Excited, So I do think you know, I want to 733 00:30:45,184 --> 00:30:47,704 Speaker 1: say that's a chose at the scene. So everyone thinks 734 00:30:47,824 --> 00:30:51,464 Speaker 1: that Kristen Bell and Adam Brody have such good chemistry 735 00:30:51,704 --> 00:30:54,384 Speaker 1: in Nobody wants this season two, But I have a 736 00:30:54,424 --> 00:30:57,984 Speaker 1: show with much better chemistry which also stars Kristin Bell. 737 00:30:58,624 --> 00:31:01,984 Speaker 1: Just in case you're looking for that Kristin Bell with who, Well, 738 00:31:02,024 --> 00:31:06,704 Speaker 1: the show is for Ronic Kamas because the name of 739 00:31:06,744 --> 00:31:11,064 Speaker 1: the man will mean nothing to you. That's fair. So 740 00:31:11,304 --> 00:31:12,984 Speaker 1: I have talked about Veronica and Miles on this pod 741 00:31:13,064 --> 00:31:17,024 Speaker 1: before because obviously it's my whole existence. It ran for 742 00:31:17,424 --> 00:31:20,984 Speaker 1: three seasons back in the very early two thousands. It 743 00:31:21,024 --> 00:31:24,184 Speaker 1: was Kristen Bell's first big acting role. It's the role 744 00:31:24,224 --> 00:31:26,744 Speaker 1: that made her stuff. And when I say it, tell 745 00:31:26,784 --> 00:31:29,144 Speaker 1: you the premise. You've never watched it, right, But can 746 00:31:29,184 --> 00:31:30,704 Speaker 1: I just say, I think you should watch it now 747 00:31:30,744 --> 00:31:33,904 Speaker 1: because you would love it. Okay, you really would. 748 00:31:33,984 --> 00:31:36,184 Speaker 2: It's so good to start a list on my phone. 749 00:31:36,424 --> 00:31:38,064 Speaker 1: Yes, I can't believe in all the years we've known 750 00:31:38,064 --> 00:31:39,424 Speaker 1: each other, you don't have that already. 751 00:31:39,544 --> 00:31:42,664 Speaker 2: I know. I know that's actually really bad on my part, 752 00:31:42,824 --> 00:31:44,704 Speaker 2: but look at me right now, I'm going to be. 753 00:31:44,704 --> 00:31:48,584 Speaker 1: Like you're making a listen just says watch for shows that. 754 00:31:48,704 --> 00:31:52,184 Speaker 2: LB wants me to watch. 755 00:31:52,184 --> 00:31:53,904 Speaker 1: And you know what I should do, and then put 756 00:31:53,904 --> 00:31:54,544 Speaker 1: the OC on there. 757 00:31:54,624 --> 00:31:56,064 Speaker 2: Okay, I want you to watch. 758 00:31:56,744 --> 00:31:58,024 Speaker 1: I'm not telling you to watch every one of my 759 00:31:58,024 --> 00:32:00,544 Speaker 1: favorite shows. I only recommend shows I think you'll genuinely like, 760 00:32:00,584 --> 00:32:02,384 Speaker 1: and yeah, hold up, you're very good and that will 761 00:32:02,384 --> 00:32:03,544 Speaker 1: hold up over twenty years late. 762 00:32:03,584 --> 00:32:05,224 Speaker 2: But you know what I think I should do, not 763 00:32:05,384 --> 00:32:08,264 Speaker 2: tell you when I watched that and then just start 764 00:32:08,304 --> 00:32:12,064 Speaker 2: like inserting like inside like like you just did. But 765 00:32:12,064 --> 00:32:14,544 Speaker 2: I don't know where I came from. I actually genuinely 766 00:32:14,544 --> 00:32:15,784 Speaker 2: don't know what happened there. 767 00:32:16,104 --> 00:32:18,144 Speaker 1: No, but I want to watch the first episode with 768 00:32:18,184 --> 00:32:21,664 Speaker 1: you your reaction. But you can watch Ronica Mars about me. 769 00:32:21,704 --> 00:32:23,424 Speaker 1: That's okay, because that's more of like a lot slow 770 00:32:23,424 --> 00:32:25,144 Speaker 1: burd It's not like the pilot sets everything. 771 00:32:25,184 --> 00:32:25,424 Speaker 2: Okay. 772 00:32:25,464 --> 00:32:28,464 Speaker 1: So Ronni kahmas So Kristin Bell plays Ronicka Mamrs. And 773 00:32:28,464 --> 00:32:30,544 Speaker 1: she's a high school student living in this tiny town 774 00:32:30,584 --> 00:32:33,344 Speaker 1: of Neptune, which is very much like half the pepper tune, 775 00:32:33,544 --> 00:32:36,704 Speaker 1: Yep chune yeap, half love it. You're impressed with that. 776 00:32:36,824 --> 00:32:40,784 Speaker 1: Just half the people in the town are filthy, filthy rich, right, 777 00:32:41,464 --> 00:32:45,584 Speaker 1: huge mansions, multiple homes, fancy cars, and the other people 778 00:32:45,664 --> 00:32:47,504 Speaker 1: are the yeah, and the other people like the kind 779 00:32:47,544 --> 00:32:49,384 Speaker 1: of working class people who work in the restaurants and 780 00:32:49,424 --> 00:32:52,624 Speaker 1: serve them. Kristin Bell plays Ronni Kammas, a high school student. 781 00:32:52,624 --> 00:32:54,944 Speaker 1: Her dad's a police officer, and all the kids are 782 00:32:54,944 --> 00:32:57,224 Speaker 1: in together with the local high school because even though it's. 783 00:32:57,064 --> 00:32:59,744 Speaker 2: Like high school, both the rich kids and haw kids. 784 00:32:59,984 --> 00:33:02,384 Speaker 1: And Ronni Khamas falls in love with Duncan, the son 785 00:33:02,464 --> 00:33:03,904 Speaker 1: of the richest people in town. 786 00:33:04,664 --> 00:33:06,184 Speaker 2: He's the richest person in down Well. 787 00:33:06,184 --> 00:33:08,104 Speaker 1: And also they're just like they're very like meant to be, 788 00:33:08,224 --> 00:33:10,664 Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, from two different worlds, madly 789 00:33:10,664 --> 00:33:10,984 Speaker 1: in love. 790 00:33:11,064 --> 00:33:12,264 Speaker 2: And she's like working class. 791 00:33:12,304 --> 00:33:14,784 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, she's working class. Her dad's a local sheriff. 792 00:33:14,824 --> 00:33:16,744 Speaker 1: And she says in the pilot, gives me a certain 793 00:33:16,784 --> 00:33:19,464 Speaker 1: amount of cachet because her dad's a local sheriff. But 794 00:33:19,584 --> 00:33:21,584 Speaker 1: she's still not like living in a mansion like her 795 00:33:21,664 --> 00:33:22,464 Speaker 1: friendship group is. 796 00:33:22,584 --> 00:33:24,584 Speaker 2: So he's kind of like that sheriff who stopped justin 797 00:33:24,584 --> 00:33:25,384 Speaker 2: Tim Blake in. 798 00:33:25,304 --> 00:33:29,304 Speaker 1: The Yeah, he's exactly like that. Yes, and then she's 799 00:33:29,344 --> 00:33:32,704 Speaker 1: also best friends with Duncan's sister, Lily feed for her 800 00:33:32,864 --> 00:33:34,384 Speaker 1: plague by Amanda Seafried. 801 00:33:34,824 --> 00:33:39,024 Speaker 2: Oh I love a man. Yeah, she said, well, and 802 00:33:39,064 --> 00:33:41,344 Speaker 2: that's good because then when they do play dates together, 803 00:33:41,424 --> 00:33:43,344 Speaker 2: like Duncan will be there. Yeah. 804 00:33:43,384 --> 00:33:45,224 Speaker 1: I mean they are teenagers, not doing all to play dates, 805 00:33:45,264 --> 00:33:48,384 Speaker 1: so their idellic well kind of gets shut again. This 806 00:33:48,424 --> 00:33:49,904 Speaker 1: is all a spoiler. This is in the first few 807 00:33:49,904 --> 00:33:52,824 Speaker 1: seconds of the show and makes up the entire universe. 808 00:33:52,904 --> 00:33:54,624 Speaker 2: Are you allowed to date your best friend's brother? 809 00:33:54,944 --> 00:33:56,944 Speaker 1: They were okay with it, so that was the thing. Well, 810 00:33:56,984 --> 00:33:58,664 Speaker 1: it actually doesn't matter that much because in the first 811 00:33:58,704 --> 00:34:02,144 Speaker 1: episode she dies. Lily is killed. She just dies. Oh no, 812 00:34:02,784 --> 00:34:03,864 Speaker 1: they dunkin gets. 813 00:34:03,824 --> 00:34:08,104 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm so excited to enjoy her acting 814 00:34:08,464 --> 00:34:09,544 Speaker 2: in this whole series. 815 00:34:09,704 --> 00:34:11,584 Speaker 1: She does pop up was like a memory a lot through, 816 00:34:12,184 --> 00:34:14,264 Speaker 1: but she's clearly being murdered. She's lying by the like 817 00:34:17,384 --> 00:34:21,784 Speaker 1: Veronica a really treading. Duncan and Veronica both see her 818 00:34:21,864 --> 00:34:25,024 Speaker 1: because Duncan gets home finds her body. She's lying outside 819 00:34:25,064 --> 00:34:27,144 Speaker 1: by the pool. She's clearly being killed because she's been 820 00:34:27,184 --> 00:34:30,104 Speaker 1: struck on the head. Veronica's dad, Keith Mars, the local sheriff, 821 00:34:30,144 --> 00:34:37,584 Speaker 1: gets the call that Veronica, sorry something, please stop helping. Sorry, 822 00:34:37,664 --> 00:34:38,264 Speaker 1: just like explain this. 823 00:34:38,304 --> 00:34:39,864 Speaker 2: We're already like a minute. This is what I can't 824 00:34:39,864 --> 00:34:42,384 Speaker 2: even help with. I actually have nothing. Nothing's coming to mind. 825 00:34:42,864 --> 00:34:47,624 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because you definitely. And then Veronica also finds 826 00:34:47,664 --> 00:34:51,144 Speaker 1: the body because her dad. Her dad gets called to 827 00:34:51,264 --> 00:34:54,144 Speaker 1: investigate the murder, and she runs and sees Lily's body. 828 00:34:54,304 --> 00:34:58,464 Speaker 1: The whole town is traumatized. Lily's ex boyfriend, Logan, who's 829 00:34:58,464 --> 00:35:00,624 Speaker 1: also Duncan's best friends they were a little foursome girl 830 00:35:00,824 --> 00:35:02,544 Speaker 1: like Dawson's Creek. Yeah, yeah, they were like a little 831 00:35:02,544 --> 00:35:06,664 Speaker 1: foursome group, is also devastated. And then she Mars. The 832 00:35:06,744 --> 00:35:10,424 Speaker 1: sheriff says, he points the finger at the family, and 833 00:35:10,504 --> 00:35:12,744 Speaker 1: it's like they did it inside a job. Yeah. It's 834 00:35:12,784 --> 00:35:14,544 Speaker 1: found to be not true when it goes to the courts, 835 00:35:14,584 --> 00:35:17,424 Speaker 1: and then Keith loses his job and the whole town 836 00:35:17,544 --> 00:35:20,784 Speaker 1: shuns them. Duncan and Veronica break up, and so Keith 837 00:35:20,824 --> 00:35:24,304 Speaker 1: Mars becomes a private detective. In that chune, her mum leaves, 838 00:35:24,344 --> 00:35:25,504 Speaker 1: Ronica's Mom's like I can't deal with that. 839 00:35:25,584 --> 00:35:26,104 Speaker 2: She just leaves. 840 00:35:26,184 --> 00:35:28,224 Speaker 1: It's just the two of them together, and then Veronica 841 00:35:28,424 --> 00:35:32,184 Speaker 1: is like she takes off. Yeah, Veronica is an outcast, embarrassing. 842 00:35:32,344 --> 00:35:33,904 Speaker 1: No one will speak to her, no one will look 843 00:35:33,944 --> 00:35:36,824 Speaker 1: at her, and so she becomes like also a private detective, 844 00:35:36,984 --> 00:35:37,984 Speaker 1: like she helps her dad. 845 00:35:38,344 --> 00:35:39,784 Speaker 2: But then she's like Nancy Drew vibe. 846 00:35:39,904 --> 00:35:40,104 Speaker 1: Yeah. 847 00:35:40,384 --> 00:35:41,224 Speaker 2: Oh it's so good. 848 00:35:41,264 --> 00:35:43,544 Speaker 1: And Kristen mel is so good in this role. Anyway, 849 00:35:43,584 --> 00:35:46,184 Speaker 1: getting to the romance. Okay, so the show was initially 850 00:35:46,264 --> 00:35:50,264 Speaker 1: set up that Duncan and Veronica as they kind of 851 00:35:50,584 --> 00:35:53,104 Speaker 1: found out who killed Lily and who killed Lily is 852 00:35:53,304 --> 00:35:55,864 Speaker 1: the biggest reveal you find out in the last episode 853 00:35:55,864 --> 00:35:58,464 Speaker 1: of season Who was it? I'm not telling you one. 854 00:35:58,504 --> 00:35:59,784 Speaker 1: You have to watch it, you mu have it just 855 00:35:59,824 --> 00:36:01,224 Speaker 1: hyped up. The show was one of the best shows 856 00:36:01,224 --> 00:36:02,144 Speaker 1: ever and they just ruined. 857 00:36:02,264 --> 00:36:03,184 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. That's true. 858 00:36:03,224 --> 00:36:03,544 Speaker 1: That's true. 859 00:36:03,704 --> 00:36:05,304 Speaker 2: But you find out at the end of season one. 860 00:36:05,424 --> 00:36:08,784 Speaker 1: There's three seasons, a movie which was funded by the fans, 861 00:36:08,864 --> 00:36:11,824 Speaker 1: including me, and then yeah, I did I guess I 862 00:36:11,864 --> 00:36:13,584 Speaker 1: gave him money. I was in high school, so they 863 00:36:13,664 --> 00:36:14,744 Speaker 1: only give him like fifty bucks. 864 00:36:14,784 --> 00:36:16,184 Speaker 2: Oh my god, And you know what that would have 865 00:36:16,184 --> 00:36:16,904 Speaker 2: made all the difference. 866 00:36:16,904 --> 00:36:18,624 Speaker 1: And the movie got made, and then it came back 867 00:36:18,664 --> 00:36:20,504 Speaker 1: as a TV show later on, which we will talk about. 868 00:36:20,744 --> 00:36:21,344 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 869 00:36:22,064 --> 00:36:23,504 Speaker 1: Okay, getting to the chemistry. 870 00:36:23,184 --> 00:36:25,064 Speaker 2: How did you did you send her a fifty dollar note? 871 00:36:25,544 --> 00:36:27,584 Speaker 1: No, they didn't know. Kristen Bell got on her socials 872 00:36:27,624 --> 00:36:29,184 Speaker 1: and she was like, hey, Marshmallows, that's what you got. 873 00:36:29,224 --> 00:36:29,744 Speaker 1: That's the fans. 874 00:36:29,984 --> 00:36:30,824 Speaker 2: Wait, how old were you? 875 00:36:31,944 --> 00:36:38,464 Speaker 1: Eight nineteen picture it was. They crowd funded it. That 876 00:36:38,584 --> 00:36:41,144 Speaker 1: was the time of crowdfunding movies. Now that would just 877 00:36:41,184 --> 00:36:42,424 Speaker 1: want on a stream up, but that wasn't the thing 878 00:36:42,464 --> 00:36:43,944 Speaker 1: back then. So like, if you wanted to make them 879 00:36:44,104 --> 00:36:46,864 Speaker 1: the show, the fans had to fund it. Oh wow, 880 00:36:47,264 --> 00:36:48,144 Speaker 1: and they sent your poster. 881 00:36:48,304 --> 00:36:48,784 Speaker 2: I really did. 882 00:36:49,264 --> 00:36:51,744 Speaker 1: We funded it? Wow, No regrets. I'd give them more 883 00:36:51,784 --> 00:36:54,104 Speaker 1: money if I had, I did. I didn't have any 884 00:36:54,184 --> 00:36:57,064 Speaker 1: money to give anyway, And then it came back as 885 00:36:57,104 --> 00:36:59,224 Speaker 1: a TV show like maybe six years ago or something 886 00:36:59,304 --> 00:37:01,744 Speaker 1: like that. Anyway, So the whole show is that the 887 00:37:01,904 --> 00:37:04,624 Speaker 1: Duncan and Veronica are endgame that they will find their 888 00:37:04,664 --> 00:37:07,104 Speaker 1: way back to each other once they have kind of 889 00:37:07,344 --> 00:37:10,064 Speaker 1: figured out who killed his sister. The whole thing of 890 00:37:10,144 --> 00:37:13,504 Speaker 1: his dad blaming the parents. At the same time, there's 891 00:37:13,584 --> 00:37:16,744 Speaker 1: Logan Eccles, who is Duncan, Duncan's best. 892 00:37:16,624 --> 00:37:18,504 Speaker 2: Friend or the best friend who was with Lily, and. 893 00:37:18,624 --> 00:37:20,784 Speaker 1: Lily's boyfriend who was with her when he died. And 894 00:37:21,304 --> 00:37:23,504 Speaker 1: when the whole thing happens, and Ronnie, he gets shunned. 895 00:37:23,704 --> 00:37:27,384 Speaker 1: Logan hates her and she hates him because they never 896 00:37:27,464 --> 00:37:30,104 Speaker 1: really got along, but they were dating siblings, so they 897 00:37:30,144 --> 00:37:32,544 Speaker 1: were kind of forced to hang out together. But after 898 00:37:32,824 --> 00:37:35,104 Speaker 1: they hate each other. And there's so many times where 899 00:37:35,144 --> 00:37:36,784 Speaker 1: like she sets him up for things and he like 900 00:37:36,904 --> 00:37:39,784 Speaker 1: torments her at school and it goes yeah and on 901 00:37:39,944 --> 00:37:44,024 Speaker 1: and on. There's actually real scoobodoo vibes to this show. 902 00:37:44,704 --> 00:37:46,344 Speaker 1: It's very much like I wouldn't have gotten away, but 903 00:37:46,424 --> 00:37:50,664 Speaker 1: it was a few damn jeans. It's Lily. 904 00:37:53,144 --> 00:37:54,584 Speaker 2: She takes her own death. Oh my god. 905 00:37:54,904 --> 00:37:59,504 Speaker 1: Anyway, slowly, slowly, slowly over time, especially the end of 906 00:37:59,544 --> 00:38:01,584 Speaker 1: season one, we're trying to figure out who the killer is. 907 00:38:02,304 --> 00:38:04,464 Speaker 1: Logan and Ronica, who were never meant to be together, 908 00:38:04,544 --> 00:38:07,544 Speaker 1: the writers and Oma, they kids start to fall in love, 909 00:38:07,704 --> 00:38:12,384 Speaker 1: enemy still lovers, the ultimate enemies lovers, And I think 910 00:38:12,504 --> 00:38:14,184 Speaker 1: I don't say this lightly. I thought a lot about it. 911 00:38:14,344 --> 00:38:17,104 Speaker 1: This is my favorite couple on TV. I've never seen 912 00:38:17,184 --> 00:38:19,184 Speaker 1: chemistry like it before. I've never seen a build up. 913 00:38:19,264 --> 00:38:22,704 Speaker 2: It's just like all bad boy's name Logan, I know. 914 00:38:22,984 --> 00:38:25,024 Speaker 1: And also it's a terrible message, like you shouldn't form 915 00:38:25,064 --> 00:38:28,264 Speaker 1: of a guy that publicly torments you for years. Yeah, 916 00:38:28,424 --> 00:38:31,664 Speaker 1: you shouldn't. He starts and that's fun. They obviously have 917 00:38:31,784 --> 00:38:33,744 Speaker 1: like a rocky kind of road over the years. But 918 00:38:33,904 --> 00:38:36,504 Speaker 1: there's this moment in season one. It's the most romantic 919 00:38:36,624 --> 00:38:39,304 Speaker 1: thing I have ever ever seen. So they had the 920 00:38:39,384 --> 00:38:41,624 Speaker 1: long hating each other. Then they had to sort of 921 00:38:41,704 --> 00:38:44,024 Speaker 1: come together to you know, because Duncan goes on the 922 00:38:44,104 --> 00:38:46,104 Speaker 1: run and they're trying to find out like Lily's killers 923 00:38:46,144 --> 00:38:47,584 Speaker 1: just hold them. They had to start working together, like 924 00:38:47,664 --> 00:38:50,944 Speaker 1: begrudgingly working together, and then they slowly start to fall 925 00:38:50,944 --> 00:38:53,944 Speaker 1: in love. They share the most epic kiss when Logan 926 00:38:54,024 --> 00:38:56,504 Speaker 1: comes to save Veronic Kirk because he thinks that she's 927 00:38:56,544 --> 00:38:58,264 Speaker 1: in trouble and she kind of is in trouble, and 928 00:38:58,304 --> 00:39:01,784 Speaker 1: then they have this incredible kiss that's just been building 929 00:39:01,864 --> 00:39:04,224 Speaker 1: up for ages, and they start secretly seeing each other. 930 00:39:04,304 --> 00:39:06,784 Speaker 1: They can't tell anyone because she's like shunned at school. 931 00:39:07,264 --> 00:39:09,664 Speaker 1: His family hate her. All the other families hate her, 932 00:39:09,744 --> 00:39:11,784 Speaker 1: like her dad never approved because he's like he's a 933 00:39:11,784 --> 00:39:14,304 Speaker 1: bad guy. They have to keep it secret. And so 934 00:39:14,584 --> 00:39:16,664 Speaker 1: one night they're at his house and they walk into 935 00:39:16,704 --> 00:39:20,304 Speaker 1: his house, turn the lights, and the whole school is 936 00:39:20,344 --> 00:39:22,744 Speaker 1: there because they're there for a surprise party for Logan. 937 00:39:22,664 --> 00:39:23,664 Speaker 2: Because it's his birthday. 938 00:39:24,064 --> 00:39:27,024 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I don't think that's part of the stock. 939 00:39:27,304 --> 00:39:28,624 Speaker 1: I guess I didn't know, but it was like, all 940 00:39:28,624 --> 00:39:29,304 Speaker 1: of a sudden. 941 00:39:29,264 --> 00:39:31,624 Speaker 2: They see you there, and I was like, oh my god. 942 00:39:31,704 --> 00:39:32,024 Speaker 2: She didn't know. 943 00:39:33,144 --> 00:39:35,544 Speaker 1: They were like and they were like, Logan, what are 944 00:39:35,584 --> 00:39:38,344 Speaker 1: you doing with her? Like she's all and she kind 945 00:39:38,344 --> 00:39:40,664 Speaker 1: of steps back because she's like, no way, he's going 946 00:39:40,744 --> 00:39:42,944 Speaker 1: to tell the whole school. And he's like his parents 947 00:39:42,984 --> 00:39:45,344 Speaker 1: are like the community that we're together, Like this is 948 00:39:45,384 --> 00:39:46,824 Speaker 1: the end of the road he's going to Like so 949 00:39:46,984 --> 00:39:48,824 Speaker 1: Roonicanda steps back in and said that she's going to lose, 950 00:39:48,944 --> 00:39:51,944 Speaker 1: and he just like looks around and he goes, why no, 951 00:39:51,944 --> 00:39:55,584 Speaker 1: we're on a podcast, so I'm just gonna say. He 952 00:39:55,704 --> 00:39:58,184 Speaker 1: reaches his hand over, reaches his hand back to her 953 00:39:58,344 --> 00:40:00,024 Speaker 1: and just looks at her, and then he's like, doesn't 954 00:40:00,064 --> 00:40:02,304 Speaker 1: take my hand, and then he pulls her hand in 955 00:40:02,384 --> 00:40:04,264 Speaker 1: and puts his arm around her and he's like, Ronica 956 00:40:04,304 --> 00:40:06,824 Speaker 1: and I are together and in front of everyone, and 957 00:40:06,984 --> 00:40:09,904 Speaker 1: then his best friend, Dick cassiblanc has comes home and 958 00:40:09,944 --> 00:40:12,384 Speaker 1: he's like, wait, what happened to Duncan. Well, he's not 959 00:40:12,464 --> 00:40:14,664 Speaker 1: here at the time. Actually, he's at the back of 960 00:40:14,704 --> 00:40:15,024 Speaker 1: the room. 961 00:40:15,104 --> 00:40:16,184 Speaker 2: We find out best friends. 962 00:40:16,264 --> 00:40:17,944 Speaker 1: He's the only one and he's like, dude, don't tell 963 00:40:17,984 --> 00:40:19,704 Speaker 1: me you're with that girl. She's the worst. And he's like, 964 00:40:19,784 --> 00:40:21,784 Speaker 1: get out of my house. And he's like, if anyone 965 00:40:21,824 --> 00:40:23,344 Speaker 1: else has a problem with this, get out of my house, 966 00:40:23,384 --> 00:40:24,824 Speaker 1: because you've got a problem with ronic, You've got a 967 00:40:24,864 --> 00:40:25,304 Speaker 1: problem with me. 968 00:40:25,384 --> 00:40:27,264 Speaker 2: And they all leave, some of them do well. 969 00:40:27,344 --> 00:40:29,664 Speaker 1: Duncan leaves, Oh Duncan, and then he choses after him. 970 00:40:29,664 --> 00:40:32,544 Speaker 1: It's the whole thing, but he ran away, and then 971 00:40:32,584 --> 00:40:36,024 Speaker 1: the whole show then becomes about them. So they're together 972 00:40:36,064 --> 00:40:37,904 Speaker 1: for season one. They have some issues in season two, 973 00:40:37,944 --> 00:40:39,664 Speaker 1: then they go to college in season three and it's 974 00:40:39,664 --> 00:40:42,344 Speaker 1: all about them being together and it's just the chemistry 975 00:40:42,424 --> 00:40:45,264 Speaker 1: is so incredible. Then it cuts to a few years later. 976 00:40:45,424 --> 00:40:48,624 Speaker 1: The movie Self Funded by Me comes out, and they're 977 00:40:48,664 --> 00:40:50,264 Speaker 1: broken up at the start of that, but then she 978 00:40:50,504 --> 00:40:54,184 Speaker 1: he calls her back to Neptune because he's been framed 979 00:40:54,224 --> 00:40:57,224 Speaker 1: for murder, and over time they sort of get back together. 980 00:40:58,384 --> 00:41:01,984 Speaker 1: No no, no, they different murder because it's the murder 981 00:41:02,064 --> 00:41:07,064 Speaker 1: of his current girlfriend. Yeah yeah, and he's like, they 982 00:41:07,104 --> 00:41:07,944 Speaker 1: haven't spoken for like. 983 00:41:07,984 --> 00:41:09,224 Speaker 2: A girlfriends keep dying. 984 00:41:09,344 --> 00:41:12,344 Speaker 1: Well, that's what people say. And then they're like, He's like, 985 00:41:12,384 --> 00:41:13,704 Speaker 1: you're the only one who can help me. So he 986 00:41:13,744 --> 00:41:15,464 Speaker 1: flies her back to Neptune and she helps him and 987 00:41:15,504 --> 00:41:18,224 Speaker 1: they fall in love. And then we come to the 988 00:41:18,304 --> 00:41:20,464 Speaker 1: TV show that came out a few years ago, the reboot, 989 00:41:20,464 --> 00:41:23,144 Speaker 1: where they're like Logan and Veronica are like both fully 990 00:41:23,184 --> 00:41:25,624 Speaker 1: adults in my late thirties there together. I'm just gonna 991 00:41:25,624 --> 00:41:27,464 Speaker 1: tell you what the end of this show did to me. 992 00:41:27,864 --> 00:41:30,024 Speaker 1: I'm watching the whole new season of Ronnick Cars. Is 993 00:41:30,064 --> 00:41:31,304 Speaker 1: the best thing that's ever happened to me. I never 994 00:41:31,344 --> 00:41:33,904 Speaker 1: thought I'd see these characters again on screen. I can't 995 00:41:33,944 --> 00:41:36,504 Speaker 1: believe that I'm so lucky in life that this has 996 00:41:36,504 --> 00:41:39,104 Speaker 1: happened to me. And I have one episode left to 997 00:41:39,184 --> 00:41:41,504 Speaker 1: watch of the new Veronica Mars series, and I've got 998 00:41:41,544 --> 00:41:43,264 Speaker 1: a film something for work the next day, So go 999 00:41:43,384 --> 00:41:44,864 Speaker 1: put a fake tan on the fake tans. It can 1000 00:41:44,944 --> 00:41:46,704 Speaker 1: only be on for an hour, right, that's great, the 1001 00:41:46,744 --> 00:41:49,664 Speaker 1: episode's forty minutes. I've got plenty of time. I watched 1002 00:41:49,664 --> 00:41:52,264 Speaker 1: this episode. This is like my old old apartment, where 1003 00:41:52,264 --> 00:41:53,704 Speaker 1: like the balcony was also a kitchen. So I'm just 1004 00:41:53,704 --> 00:41:55,024 Speaker 1: sitting with my I didn't have a TV. I'm setting 1005 00:41:55,024 --> 00:41:57,624 Speaker 1: with my little laptop and I'm watching it and it 1006 00:41:57,784 --> 00:42:01,464 Speaker 1: is the most upsetting thing that has ever ever ever 1007 00:42:01,584 --> 00:42:03,944 Speaker 1: happened in a TV show in a bad way. Yeah, 1008 00:42:04,624 --> 00:42:07,504 Speaker 1: in the worst possible way. And then when it finished, 1009 00:42:07,944 --> 00:42:10,024 Speaker 1: I've never anything like it for a TV character. I 1010 00:42:10,704 --> 00:42:14,184 Speaker 1: sold like my whole body was sobbing, and I sobbed 1011 00:42:14,224 --> 00:42:16,704 Speaker 1: and sobbed and sobbed on my couch for about three hours. 1012 00:42:16,984 --> 00:42:18,784 Speaker 1: Every time I tried to like collect myself. I didn't 1013 00:42:18,784 --> 00:42:20,664 Speaker 1: even cry this badly into The Walking Dead or Buffy, 1014 00:42:20,904 --> 00:42:22,624 Speaker 1: but I think it was just so shocking and I 1015 00:42:22,624 --> 00:42:24,304 Speaker 1: couldn't believe it had happened. And then I was like, 1016 00:42:24,384 --> 00:42:26,104 Speaker 1: oh shit, I was meant to watch my tan off 1017 00:42:26,344 --> 00:42:27,704 Speaker 1: and I didn't watch it. I went in the bathroom, 1018 00:42:27,784 --> 00:42:29,704 Speaker 1: was too late. The next day at work, I was 1019 00:42:29,984 --> 00:42:33,944 Speaker 1: radioactive orange. So every time I looked down at my hands, 1020 00:42:33,984 --> 00:42:36,664 Speaker 1: and remember this isn't the old Wetworth Avenue office, just 1021 00:42:36,704 --> 00:42:38,744 Speaker 1: a pain a scene in you and everyone could see, Yes, 1022 00:42:38,784 --> 00:42:40,704 Speaker 1: that's a whole office was open. Every time I looked 1023 00:42:40,704 --> 00:42:43,264 Speaker 1: down and saw my orange hands, I cried again because 1024 00:42:43,304 --> 00:42:45,304 Speaker 1: it reminded me of what had happened that before. And 1025 00:42:45,504 --> 00:42:47,824 Speaker 1: then because I was on a different TV podcast at 1026 00:42:47,824 --> 00:42:50,264 Speaker 1: the time, the one we had prior to this, and 1027 00:42:50,584 --> 00:42:52,824 Speaker 1: we had to film some videos and you can check 1028 00:42:52,984 --> 00:42:54,584 Speaker 1: that this happened because it was your friend that was 1029 00:42:54,624 --> 00:42:55,304 Speaker 1: filming a ready. 1030 00:42:55,584 --> 00:42:56,184 Speaker 2: Oh gosh. 1031 00:42:56,384 --> 00:42:58,504 Speaker 1: We had to film like a reaction to this show. 1032 00:42:59,144 --> 00:43:00,784 Speaker 1: And then we went into the old boardroom with the 1033 00:43:00,824 --> 00:43:02,824 Speaker 1: old old Mummer office, you know with the colored poles, 1034 00:43:02,864 --> 00:43:04,544 Speaker 1: and we were seeing there filming and then she was like, 1035 00:43:04,624 --> 00:43:06,304 Speaker 1: and now I react to this scene, this scene and stuff. 1036 00:43:06,304 --> 00:43:07,704 Speaker 1: And then I like, yeah, yep, yep, because we're doing 1037 00:43:07,744 --> 00:43:09,624 Speaker 1: these videos. And then we went to the end scene 1038 00:43:09,664 --> 00:43:11,864 Speaker 1: and she's like, are you gonna say anything? You're doing anything? 1039 00:43:11,904 --> 00:43:14,184 Speaker 1: And she's like, oh my god, are you crying. I'm 1040 00:43:14,264 --> 00:43:17,184 Speaker 1: just like burst into tears. So that's on camera. 1041 00:43:17,984 --> 00:43:19,904 Speaker 2: I want to see that, well, I don't know where 1042 00:43:19,904 --> 00:43:22,944 Speaker 2: it is. I don't believe anything. 1043 00:43:23,464 --> 00:43:25,384 Speaker 1: So so I just I just I tell all that 1044 00:43:25,464 --> 00:43:27,184 Speaker 1: that story, not to be self indulgent, but just to 1045 00:43:27,264 --> 00:43:29,224 Speaker 1: let you know, and all the fans right now, I 1046 00:43:29,304 --> 00:43:31,064 Speaker 1: want to want so all the fans had that reaction. 1047 00:43:31,144 --> 00:43:32,984 Speaker 1: So I just want to try to explain what this 1048 00:43:33,224 --> 00:43:35,624 Speaker 1: particular TV romance has meant to people. 1049 00:43:35,984 --> 00:43:39,024 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's no, that's actually such a good ad 1050 00:43:39,184 --> 00:43:41,184 Speaker 2: for that show, I know, right, So it's like you 1051 00:43:41,264 --> 00:43:42,984 Speaker 2: have to sit with me watching the first episode of 1052 00:43:42,984 --> 00:43:45,304 Speaker 2: that oc in the last episode of RONI mmar, yeah. 1053 00:43:45,264 --> 00:43:46,984 Speaker 1: I mean again, I know we're talking about just the romance, 1054 00:43:46,984 --> 00:43:49,584 Speaker 1: but Veronic Kmas is just one of the greatest shows ever. 1055 00:43:50,064 --> 00:43:52,624 Speaker 1: The writing's so good, she's so good in it. But 1056 00:43:52,904 --> 00:43:55,544 Speaker 1: like that slow burned romance is like, oh. 1057 00:43:55,824 --> 00:43:56,864 Speaker 2: I love chemistry. 1058 00:43:57,064 --> 00:43:59,024 Speaker 1: It's so good. And Kristen Bell still says this day 1059 00:43:59,064 --> 00:44:00,944 Speaker 1: that she's never had chemistry with anyone like she had 1060 00:44:01,024 --> 00:44:05,504 Speaker 1: chemistry with Jason Doring, who plays Logan to s them together, Yeah, 1061 00:44:05,704 --> 00:44:07,184 Speaker 1: it's when you look at them, you're just like, yeah, 1062 00:44:07,224 --> 00:44:09,144 Speaker 1: it's nothing to their looks. It's just there. They're both hot, 1063 00:44:09,224 --> 00:44:12,224 Speaker 1: but like it's the chemistry on that show, and Kristin 1064 00:44:12,264 --> 00:44:14,704 Speaker 1: Bell hashaid she's never had chemistry like that with anyone else. 1065 00:44:14,984 --> 00:44:17,184 Speaker 1: Oh she hasn't said it, but not even Adam Brody. 1066 00:44:17,264 --> 00:44:19,944 Speaker 1: Like Adam Brodie doesn't hold especially not at it. Adam 1067 00:44:19,984 --> 00:44:21,544 Speaker 1: Brodie doesn't hold a candle to this. 1068 00:44:21,904 --> 00:44:23,744 Speaker 2: Oh I know him. He's in Sealed team. 1069 00:44:26,784 --> 00:44:29,624 Speaker 1: He's great at actions, helpful facts. So any way, that 1070 00:44:29,744 --> 00:44:31,304 Speaker 1: is nice. I'm going to cry again. I feel like 1071 00:44:31,344 --> 00:44:34,104 Speaker 1: I just lived through that again, but I can't. The 1072 00:44:34,224 --> 00:44:36,784 Speaker 1: first time they kissed, I literally I remember like being 1073 00:44:36,824 --> 00:44:38,984 Speaker 1: on like the floor of my teenage bedroom and I 1074 00:44:39,104 --> 00:44:41,264 Speaker 1: literally like fell onto the floor and was like I 1075 00:44:41,304 --> 00:44:44,224 Speaker 1: couldn't even scream, and my sister has what's happening? Like 1076 00:44:45,944 --> 00:44:48,064 Speaker 1: it was so unexpected, like you kind of knew it 1077 00:44:48,104 --> 00:44:49,304 Speaker 1: was coming, and be like they're not gonna do it, 1078 00:44:49,344 --> 00:44:51,264 Speaker 1: They're not gonna do it, and then they did it. 1079 00:44:51,344 --> 00:44:53,664 Speaker 1: And then after that, romance on TV has never been 1080 00:44:53,704 --> 00:44:57,464 Speaker 1: the same. WHOA, Yeah, myself is dressed headache with this 1081 00:44:57,624 --> 00:45:01,184 Speaker 1: conversation and I've got a headache now, and then the 1082 00:45:01,224 --> 00:45:04,544 Speaker 1: rest of the day off, we're too overstimulated from this conversation. 1083 00:45:05,024 --> 00:45:07,784 Speaker 1: So that is the TV couple with the best chemistry. 1084 00:45:08,104 --> 00:45:10,184 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm so excited to watch all these 1085 00:45:10,184 --> 00:45:10,664 Speaker 2: sh I. 1086 00:45:10,664 --> 00:45:12,504 Speaker 1: Can't wait for you to watch Fronticamas. You'll just love it. 1087 00:45:12,584 --> 00:45:15,024 Speaker 2: And now I have to rewatch Bridges him and you. 1088 00:45:15,064 --> 00:45:17,224 Speaker 1: Have to allegedly watch Arrow for the first time, even. 1089 00:45:17,104 --> 00:45:19,584 Speaker 2: Though what's been there. I was actually it's like that 1090 00:45:19,744 --> 00:45:21,864 Speaker 2: was part of the Arrow verse. Whatever happened to me? 1091 00:45:21,944 --> 00:45:24,344 Speaker 2: You're right there. I had an epiphany. 1092 00:45:24,784 --> 00:45:26,504 Speaker 1: It's like you watched it and someone erased it from 1093 00:45:26,544 --> 00:45:27,424 Speaker 1: your mind somewhere. 1094 00:45:27,584 --> 00:45:31,744 Speaker 2: Like it's actually freaking me out. No recollection of ever 1095 00:45:31,824 --> 00:45:32,544 Speaker 2: watching now, all. 1096 00:45:32,464 --> 00:45:34,464 Speaker 1: These little bits and pieces that you wouldn't know from 1097 00:45:34,544 --> 00:45:37,144 Speaker 1: just watching a weird clip here and there makes me 1098 00:45:37,224 --> 00:45:39,384 Speaker 1: uncomfortable talk about it, to think about it. But anyway, 1099 00:45:39,424 --> 00:45:42,424 Speaker 1: that is our TV characters with the best chemistry. If 1100 00:45:42,424 --> 00:45:44,264 Speaker 1: you're looking for something once you finished Nobody Wants the 1101 00:45:44,304 --> 00:45:47,664 Speaker 1: season two and you're looking for something else to delve into, and. 1102 00:45:47,744 --> 00:45:50,424 Speaker 2: Make sure you do watch Nobody Wants This season two, 1103 00:45:50,664 --> 00:45:53,064 Speaker 2: which came out yesterday, because we are going to be 1104 00:45:53,104 --> 00:45:56,424 Speaker 2: doing a broodly honest review on it on Friday, so 1105 00:45:56,464 --> 00:45:59,344 Speaker 2: stay tuned because that's obviously you're going to be spoilers. Well, 1106 00:45:59,424 --> 00:46:01,744 Speaker 2: thank you, so much for listening to this bill today. 1107 00:46:01,784 --> 00:46:03,304 Speaker 2: If you love our show, the best thing you can 1108 00:46:03,344 --> 00:46:05,704 Speaker 2: do is give us a five star ratings and review 1109 00:46:05,744 --> 00:46:08,264 Speaker 2: wherever you listen. We'll be back on Monday with Morning 1110 00:46:08,304 --> 00:46:10,984 Speaker 2: Tea at eight am. This bill is produced by Minicious 1111 00:46:11,024 --> 00:46:13,704 Speaker 2: Wire and sound production by Scotstronic. Have a great weekend. 1112 00:46:13,944 --> 00:46:23,744 Speaker 1: Bye bye h