1 00:00:11,064 --> 00:00:16,024 Speaker 1: So you're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges 2 00:00:16,104 --> 00:00:19,584 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of land and borders that this podcast 3 00:00:19,704 --> 00:00:20,504 Speaker 1: is recorded on. 4 00:00:25,304 --> 00:00:28,344 Speaker 2: From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop 5 00:00:28,384 --> 00:00:30,904 Speaker 2: culture fix. I'm em Vernam. 6 00:00:30,784 --> 00:00:31,984 Speaker 1: And I'm Laura Brodnick. 7 00:00:32,224 --> 00:00:35,944 Speaker 2: We've got a massive show today. On the show, we 8 00:00:36,064 --> 00:00:39,304 Speaker 2: are talking about all the rumors that are circulating Taylor 9 00:00:39,384 --> 00:00:44,264 Speaker 2: Swift and Blake Lively's friendship. They're possible friendship ending. We're 10 00:00:44,264 --> 00:00:47,904 Speaker 2: gonna tell you what's going down. Plus everything that's happening 11 00:00:47,944 --> 00:00:51,344 Speaker 2: with Kanye West, the super Bowl and his Twitter account. 12 00:00:51,344 --> 00:00:53,104 Speaker 2: We're going to dissect all of that for you. 13 00:00:53,224 --> 00:00:56,344 Speaker 1: But first, but first, a new Royal book is about 14 00:00:56,384 --> 00:00:58,064 Speaker 1: to hit shelves. 15 00:00:57,704 --> 00:00:59,944 Speaker 2: Is It's Spare Part two? 16 00:01:00,344 --> 00:01:02,344 Speaker 1: No, I would actually be interested in that because when 17 00:01:02,344 --> 00:01:03,984 Speaker 1: I heard this book was coming out, I was a 18 00:01:03,984 --> 00:01:05,904 Speaker 1: little bit like, oh my god, how many times can 19 00:01:05,944 --> 00:01:06,544 Speaker 1: we retrade? 20 00:01:06,624 --> 00:01:07,544 Speaker 2: You know what they do? 21 00:01:07,624 --> 00:01:07,864 Speaker 1: Story? 22 00:01:07,944 --> 00:01:10,664 Speaker 2: They should rewrite Spare. But from William's. 23 00:01:11,304 --> 00:01:13,864 Speaker 1: Obviously I would do that. Die for that. It's so good. 24 00:01:14,184 --> 00:01:18,144 Speaker 1: Like in Twilight you had bellist perspective and I love it. 25 00:01:18,184 --> 00:01:20,984 Speaker 2: That's what I went for, exact same story, like very 26 00:01:21,104 --> 00:01:21,824 Speaker 2: like Low Lift. 27 00:01:22,224 --> 00:01:24,464 Speaker 1: Well, this one is out in February twenty five, so 28 00:01:24,864 --> 00:01:27,344 Speaker 1: a few weeks away yet. But it's called Yes, ma'am, 29 00:01:27,424 --> 00:01:31,064 Speaker 1: The Secret Life of Royal Servants. Yes, ma'am, Yes, slave, 30 00:01:31,544 --> 00:01:33,344 Speaker 1: I love that. Well that's what they have to say 31 00:01:33,464 --> 00:01:36,304 Speaker 1: to question alone. Yeah, I'm sure he was involved in this. 32 00:01:36,584 --> 00:01:38,864 Speaker 1: So it's written by Tom Quinn and it's pulling back 33 00:01:38,864 --> 00:01:41,344 Speaker 1: the curtain on working with the Royal Family. So a 34 00:01:41,384 --> 00:01:44,624 Speaker 1: lot of previous royal books have been interviewing, you know, 35 00:01:44,664 --> 00:01:48,424 Speaker 1: like the royal families in a circle, or interviewing other 36 00:01:48,544 --> 00:01:50,824 Speaker 1: royal writers who write about them more people who involved 37 00:01:50,824 --> 00:01:53,384 Speaker 1: in their protocol. There's lots of different behind the scenes things. 38 00:01:53,624 --> 00:01:55,464 Speaker 1: There are books that have talked to people who have 39 00:01:55,504 --> 00:01:58,264 Speaker 1: worked directly with the Royal family before. But this book 40 00:01:58,344 --> 00:02:01,344 Speaker 1: is really focusing on what it's like to be almost 41 00:02:01,384 --> 00:02:03,784 Speaker 1: like in the housekeeping area of the Royal family. 42 00:02:03,984 --> 00:02:05,144 Speaker 2: Downtown vibes. 43 00:02:05,304 --> 00:02:11,504 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you say downtown Abytown? Yeah, it's downtown. It's 44 00:02:11,544 --> 00:02:12,304 Speaker 1: not downtown. 45 00:02:12,464 --> 00:02:14,944 Speaker 2: Oh I thought it was like an abbey that was downtown. 46 00:02:15,344 --> 00:02:17,984 Speaker 1: Well, okay, it's just I won't even touched that one. 47 00:02:18,064 --> 00:02:19,984 Speaker 1: But just so you know, Downtown Abbey fans are plotting 48 00:02:19,984 --> 00:02:22,184 Speaker 1: your death right now, moving on. So, yeah, it is 49 00:02:22,184 --> 00:02:24,464 Speaker 1: a bit of an upstairs, downstairs situation with this book. 50 00:02:24,544 --> 00:02:27,104 Speaker 1: So it's yeah, pulling back the curtain on all these 51 00:02:27,104 --> 00:02:29,344 Speaker 1: different stories that people who have worked with the royal 52 00:02:29,344 --> 00:02:31,184 Speaker 1: family for years have told anonymously. 53 00:02:31,624 --> 00:02:32,384 Speaker 2: A lot of things. 54 00:02:32,424 --> 00:02:33,904 Speaker 1: I felt like we're a bit of a reach head 55 00:02:33,904 --> 00:02:36,304 Speaker 1: of stuff we've heard before about, you know, them conspiring 56 00:02:36,304 --> 00:02:39,144 Speaker 1: against each other, different royal families having like their set 57 00:02:39,224 --> 00:02:42,264 Speaker 1: kind of teams within the palace and releasing information about 58 00:02:42,264 --> 00:02:44,704 Speaker 1: each other. One big thing that's come out is the 59 00:02:44,744 --> 00:02:47,784 Speaker 1: behavior of Prince William and King Charles behind the scenes 60 00:02:47,824 --> 00:02:49,824 Speaker 1: with their like very inner circle of servants. So the 61 00:02:49,824 --> 00:02:51,624 Speaker 1: people who come and like wake them up in the morning, 62 00:02:51,984 --> 00:02:54,904 Speaker 1: lay their clothes, out lay their breakfast, out draw their baths, 63 00:02:55,264 --> 00:02:57,344 Speaker 1: help them get dressed, you know all that, like the 64 00:02:57,464 --> 00:03:00,424 Speaker 1: people who are in the very intimate day to day life. Yeah, 65 00:03:00,464 --> 00:03:02,784 Speaker 1: what happened, which sounds stressful to me because when I 66 00:03:02,784 --> 00:03:04,264 Speaker 1: wake up, I like to see no one. 67 00:03:04,184 --> 00:03:06,584 Speaker 2: I want to know, but I would fights, like the 68 00:03:06,584 --> 00:03:07,544 Speaker 2: fights between them. 69 00:03:07,864 --> 00:03:12,424 Speaker 1: Well, apparently Prince William is the most difficult to deal with. Well, 70 00:03:12,464 --> 00:03:14,144 Speaker 1: I guess King Charles are saying as well, and. 71 00:03:14,344 --> 00:03:16,024 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like the og and Ebbo baby. 72 00:03:16,104 --> 00:03:18,864 Speaker 1: Yes, So it's interesting that you say that, because apparently 73 00:03:18,904 --> 00:03:20,944 Speaker 1: Prince William is the one who gets very upset if 74 00:03:20,984 --> 00:03:24,584 Speaker 1: his daily routine isn't carried out with military precision. So 75 00:03:24,944 --> 00:03:27,864 Speaker 1: if his suit isn't perfectly pressed in the right spot 76 00:03:27,864 --> 00:03:30,304 Speaker 1: where he likes it every morning, if his bath isn't 77 00:03:30,344 --> 00:03:32,704 Speaker 1: the exact temperature every day, drawn at the time he 78 00:03:32,824 --> 00:03:36,264 Speaker 1: likes it, he gets very upset, as does King Charles, 79 00:03:36,264 --> 00:03:39,824 Speaker 1: when things aren't going his way behavior. Yes, if he's like, 80 00:03:39,864 --> 00:03:42,024 Speaker 1: biscuits aren't the right way on the plate, if his 81 00:03:42,104 --> 00:03:44,344 Speaker 1: shoes weren't like facing the door that he likes when 82 00:03:44,344 --> 00:03:46,984 Speaker 1: he puts his feet into them. Apparently there's a quote 83 00:03:46,984 --> 00:03:50,984 Speaker 1: in here from someone who worked for King Charles very closely, 84 00:03:51,024 --> 00:03:53,544 Speaker 1: and King Charles said to him one day allegedly the 85 00:03:53,584 --> 00:03:56,944 Speaker 1: only good thing about being royal is having help, which 86 00:03:56,984 --> 00:03:59,184 Speaker 1: I guess may be true. And all the money. Also, 87 00:03:59,384 --> 00:04:02,984 Speaker 1: the book is very fluttering about Kate Middleton, Princess Catherine. 88 00:04:03,024 --> 00:04:04,904 Speaker 2: Interesting maybe she who wrote it. 89 00:04:05,264 --> 00:04:08,224 Speaker 1: This is it's actually penned by hell Well, I mean 90 00:04:08,224 --> 00:04:10,024 Speaker 1: it does say some kind of scathing. 91 00:04:09,624 --> 00:04:12,864 Speaker 2: Things she's liked Bridgeton, I love that that would be 92 00:04:12,864 --> 00:04:13,544 Speaker 2: the plot twist. 93 00:04:13,584 --> 00:04:15,904 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, this writer, who may or may not be 94 00:04:16,024 --> 00:04:19,304 Speaker 1: Princess Catherine, said that Kate Middleton had to teach William 95 00:04:19,464 --> 00:04:22,784 Speaker 1: very basic parenting skills, and she had to teach even 96 00:04:22,864 --> 00:04:24,944 Speaker 1: him how to give the kids a piggyback. She's like, 97 00:04:24,944 --> 00:04:26,384 Speaker 1: you pick them up, you put them on your back, 98 00:04:26,624 --> 00:04:28,944 Speaker 1: you kind of like jump them around, you make them laugh, 99 00:04:29,064 --> 00:04:32,264 Speaker 1: you put them down. And apparently William said to her, well, 100 00:04:32,304 --> 00:04:36,224 Speaker 1: my dad never gave me a piggyback. Oh, that's so sad. 101 00:04:38,024 --> 00:04:41,104 Speaker 1: Laughing and that's so sad. And there's a whole section 102 00:04:41,144 --> 00:04:43,864 Speaker 1: of course about Megan Markle being a very polarizing figure. 103 00:04:44,064 --> 00:04:45,944 Speaker 1: Same stuff we have to sell books, they have to 104 00:04:46,024 --> 00:04:47,464 Speaker 1: name her. Well, a lot of the same stuff we've 105 00:04:47,464 --> 00:04:50,064 Speaker 1: heard before she came in. She was hugging and kissing everyone. 106 00:04:50,144 --> 00:04:53,224 Speaker 1: They were freaked out by her behavior. She wasn't traditional enough, 107 00:04:53,344 --> 00:04:55,184 Speaker 1: she was like pushing her own agenda. All that stuff 108 00:04:55,224 --> 00:04:59,824 Speaker 1: is in there that sounds broking in the book, but 109 00:04:59,824 --> 00:05:02,384 Speaker 1: they were just like, here's a new little tidbit that's 110 00:05:02,384 --> 00:05:04,544 Speaker 1: come out. And because a few of the extraction from 111 00:05:04,584 --> 00:05:06,664 Speaker 1: this book have already been released, and some people have 112 00:05:06,664 --> 00:05:09,424 Speaker 1: precopies that sort of thing. So there's a few stories 113 00:05:09,464 --> 00:05:11,304 Speaker 1: that have already come out. The biggest story from this 114 00:05:11,784 --> 00:05:14,064 Speaker 1: is that the staff would gossip that when Meg and 115 00:05:14,104 --> 00:05:16,344 Speaker 1: Markle first arrived at the palace and was engaged to 116 00:05:16,384 --> 00:05:19,184 Speaker 1: Harry they're playing the wedding, that she would flirt with 117 00:05:19,264 --> 00:05:22,904 Speaker 1: Prince William whoa I'm just gonna go and a limon say, 118 00:05:22,944 --> 00:05:24,264 Speaker 1: I feel that, but that's not true. 119 00:05:24,424 --> 00:05:26,624 Speaker 2: Yeah, why would you flirt with the will when you 120 00:05:26,664 --> 00:05:27,384 Speaker 2: could have a Harry? 121 00:05:27,544 --> 00:05:29,264 Speaker 1: I know? Also just think of like maybe he was 122 00:05:29,304 --> 00:05:32,064 Speaker 1: cute back in the day, but just think of being nice. 123 00:05:32,504 --> 00:05:34,744 Speaker 1: I actually think they had just never seen a human 124 00:05:34,744 --> 00:05:37,864 Speaker 1: being like be really nice to human another human being before. 125 00:05:38,024 --> 00:05:39,584 Speaker 1: I think that she would just like, as they're saying, 126 00:05:39,584 --> 00:05:40,584 Speaker 1: she was hugging kid, she. 127 00:05:40,504 --> 00:05:42,344 Speaker 2: Had the wrong family, right, They're like, what's her game? 128 00:05:43,024 --> 00:05:44,184 Speaker 2: What she got to gain here? 129 00:05:44,504 --> 00:05:46,904 Speaker 1: Exactly? They probably saw her say, Hi, William, how are 130 00:05:46,944 --> 00:05:47,944 Speaker 1: you like? She's love with. 131 00:05:49,504 --> 00:05:51,144 Speaker 2: Scandal in this family. 132 00:05:51,264 --> 00:05:53,544 Speaker 1: So if that's the most scandalous thing to come out 133 00:05:53,544 --> 00:05:55,864 Speaker 1: of this book, I would say it's pretty light. Apparently 134 00:05:55,864 --> 00:05:58,184 Speaker 1: they called her Mystic Meg because she was too woke 135 00:05:58,344 --> 00:06:01,824 Speaker 1: and her new age belief. Oh my god, oh mystic 136 00:06:01,824 --> 00:06:05,224 Speaker 1: Meg hitting on Prince William. I would watch such enough. Well, 137 00:06:05,264 --> 00:06:06,984 Speaker 1: the book is out on the twenty fifth. If anything 138 00:06:07,024 --> 00:06:11,824 Speaker 1: more interesting comes out, will let you know. So obviously, 139 00:06:11,824 --> 00:06:14,464 Speaker 1: the super Bowl is yesterday. I got to about him. 140 00:06:14,624 --> 00:06:16,784 Speaker 2: It was like a year ago, such a long time ago. 141 00:06:16,984 --> 00:06:18,624 Speaker 1: It's so funny. You got to at midnight and I 142 00:06:18,664 --> 00:06:20,064 Speaker 1: was going to bed and I was like, who won 143 00:06:20,104 --> 00:06:22,344 Speaker 1: the super Bowl? So to google who won the super Bowl? 144 00:06:22,584 --> 00:06:24,224 Speaker 1: Because I was like, did Travis win? I don't know 145 00:06:24,264 --> 00:06:26,344 Speaker 1: whose teams is hohoe, but he didn't win. He was very, 146 00:06:26,864 --> 00:06:29,064 Speaker 1: very sad. Did you see him doing Yeah? Did you 147 00:06:29,104 --> 00:06:31,304 Speaker 1: see him doing the press conference? He was really in tears. No. 148 00:06:31,424 --> 00:06:33,944 Speaker 2: I was watching the Eagles because I won for them. 149 00:06:34,024 --> 00:06:35,744 Speaker 1: That's your team. Okay, it's not my team. 150 00:06:35,784 --> 00:06:38,784 Speaker 2: I don't help the sport, but I think I told 151 00:06:38,824 --> 00:06:41,064 Speaker 2: you I love It's always something in Philadelphia. It's one 152 00:06:41,064 --> 00:06:41,624 Speaker 2: of my favorites. 153 00:06:41,704 --> 00:06:42,744 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they. 154 00:06:42,624 --> 00:06:46,064 Speaker 2: Always do like crazy funny super Bowl episode. Yeah, and 155 00:06:46,144 --> 00:06:48,424 Speaker 2: because that's their team, and it's because it's Philadelphia. 156 00:06:48,504 --> 00:06:48,784 Speaker 1: Yeah. 157 00:06:48,944 --> 00:06:51,264 Speaker 2: I just can't wait for that episode when they finally 158 00:06:51,304 --> 00:06:51,984 Speaker 2: win the super Bowl. 159 00:06:52,024 --> 00:06:53,784 Speaker 1: Okay, well, you're playing the long game over there. Well, 160 00:06:53,784 --> 00:06:56,784 Speaker 1: that's exciting. So some people were celebrating the football quante 161 00:06:56,944 --> 00:06:58,864 Speaker 1: what code it is or what type of football it is, 162 00:06:59,064 --> 00:07:02,504 Speaker 1: but other people were looking to the very expensive suites 163 00:07:02,704 --> 00:07:05,384 Speaker 1: where Taylor Swift was sitting. So we talked yesterday about 164 00:07:05,664 --> 00:07:09,104 Speaker 1: people booing her also online was horrific. 165 00:07:09,264 --> 00:07:10,664 Speaker 2: Yeah, gross, I was quite scared. 166 00:07:11,104 --> 00:07:14,624 Speaker 1: Yeah, people photoshopping her face being beaten and like bruised 167 00:07:14,784 --> 00:07:16,824 Speaker 1: and also being like yeah, fuck Taylor Swift, all this 168 00:07:16,864 --> 00:07:18,784 Speaker 1: kind of stuff, and like she was literally just watching 169 00:07:18,824 --> 00:07:21,704 Speaker 1: the game. Anyway. The other big storyline to come out 170 00:07:21,784 --> 00:07:23,824 Speaker 1: of that is that last year when she was at 171 00:07:23,864 --> 00:07:25,544 Speaker 1: the super Bowl, when she and Travis were kind of 172 00:07:25,544 --> 00:07:28,184 Speaker 1: nearly public, and remember how people were doing whole graphs 173 00:07:28,184 --> 00:07:30,824 Speaker 1: of like tracking if she finished her concert at this time, 174 00:07:30,864 --> 00:07:32,464 Speaker 1: if she takes a flight from here, she'll get to 175 00:07:32,464 --> 00:07:34,784 Speaker 1: the super Bowl this time. It's a whole big deal. Yeah, 176 00:07:34,824 --> 00:07:36,384 Speaker 1: I remember that. It was a good time we did, 177 00:07:37,664 --> 00:07:39,864 Speaker 1: and so Blake Lively was kind of really front and 178 00:07:39,944 --> 00:07:43,104 Speaker 1: center with her. Then they came in together. Blake Lively 179 00:07:43,184 --> 00:07:44,944 Speaker 1: was wearing what I'm just gonna say is the craziest 180 00:07:44,944 --> 00:07:45,704 Speaker 1: stuffit I've ever. 181 00:07:45,584 --> 00:07:48,864 Speaker 2: Seen, but also her red lips the red track suit all. 182 00:07:48,824 --> 00:07:51,664 Speaker 1: The Can I just say, if someone invited me to 183 00:07:51,704 --> 00:07:53,584 Speaker 1: the super Bowl, that's exactly what I would wear, Like, 184 00:07:53,624 --> 00:07:55,144 Speaker 1: I would panic and I would put on a track 185 00:07:55,184 --> 00:07:56,944 Speaker 1: suits like I don't look overdone, and then I would 186 00:07:56,944 --> 00:07:58,464 Speaker 1: curl my hair heaps because that's what I do when 187 00:07:58,464 --> 00:08:00,304 Speaker 1: I'm panicking. And then I would as I left, I'd 188 00:08:00,344 --> 00:08:02,264 Speaker 1: be like, I feel under excess riz, so I'd put 189 00:08:02,304 --> 00:08:03,064 Speaker 1: on fifty bangals. 190 00:08:03,104 --> 00:08:04,864 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, we have talked about in the past how 191 00:08:04,904 --> 00:08:07,304 Speaker 2: Blake Lively is a super rich woman who dresses like 192 00:08:07,344 --> 00:08:08,424 Speaker 2: she's a super rich woman. 193 00:08:08,544 --> 00:08:11,824 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like us if got access to all these closures, 194 00:08:11,824 --> 00:08:13,824 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put it. It's like when people say, can 195 00:08:13,864 --> 00:08:16,504 Speaker 1: you believe Blake Lively styles herself and if. 196 00:08:18,344 --> 00:08:20,424 Speaker 2: We something got so rich, that's exactly how everyone would 197 00:08:20,424 --> 00:08:20,824 Speaker 2: be dressing. 198 00:08:20,904 --> 00:08:21,544 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. 199 00:08:21,664 --> 00:08:23,864 Speaker 2: It's like she's like so surprised by how much money 200 00:08:23,904 --> 00:08:27,384 Speaker 2: she has. Every day she opens like I'm gonna show 201 00:08:27,384 --> 00:08:28,424 Speaker 2: you exactly. 202 00:08:27,984 --> 00:08:30,944 Speaker 1: How much money I had. Yeah, exactly. So in some 203 00:08:30,984 --> 00:08:33,704 Speaker 1: ways a relatable queen in a roundabout way. Anyway, she 204 00:08:33,744 --> 00:08:35,304 Speaker 1: was not at the super Bowl yesterday, and that has 205 00:08:35,384 --> 00:08:40,224 Speaker 1: really highlighted there though. I Spice is my favorite person 206 00:08:40,304 --> 00:08:41,184 Speaker 1: to watch everywhere. 207 00:08:41,384 --> 00:08:43,344 Speaker 2: I want, you know what, I want to tell old 208 00:08:43,344 --> 00:08:46,864 Speaker 2: book from her, That's what I want, because she's there enough, 209 00:08:47,344 --> 00:08:49,184 Speaker 2: like I feel like she doesn't get into the weeds 210 00:08:49,184 --> 00:08:53,304 Speaker 2: and the nitty gritty of the whole. Taylor's squaestion sees everything. 211 00:08:53,344 --> 00:08:55,024 Speaker 2: She's there for it all, and then she just kind 212 00:08:55,024 --> 00:08:56,264 Speaker 2: of does her own thing when she's away. 213 00:08:56,344 --> 00:08:59,864 Speaker 1: And she was equally confused about football this year as 214 00:08:59,864 --> 00:09:03,144 Speaker 1: she was last year. Like she was just looking around yesterday, 215 00:09:03,344 --> 00:09:05,424 Speaker 1: just very bemused. She was like, I can't believe we're 216 00:09:05,424 --> 00:09:06,824 Speaker 1: back here. I thought this was a one time thing, 217 00:09:06,864 --> 00:09:08,584 Speaker 1: like I went with my friend one time to watch 218 00:09:08,584 --> 00:09:11,264 Speaker 1: her boyfriend play football, and now I have to come back. 219 00:09:11,304 --> 00:09:13,224 Speaker 2: And it's like, oh now it's a serious relationships, Like 220 00:09:13,224 --> 00:09:14,064 Speaker 2: guess have to support this. 221 00:09:14,264 --> 00:09:16,544 Speaker 1: No, I can't get out of this. So yeah, thoughts 222 00:09:16,584 --> 00:09:19,144 Speaker 1: and prayers with ice spice. But yes, Blake Lively wasn't there, 223 00:09:19,304 --> 00:09:22,704 Speaker 1: which really kicked all of these big rumors into overdrive. 224 00:09:22,544 --> 00:09:25,024 Speaker 3: Because they didn't expect her to be there though I 225 00:09:25,144 --> 00:09:29,304 Speaker 3: didn't maybe before the whole lawsuit with Justin Baldoni and 226 00:09:29,584 --> 00:09:32,264 Speaker 3: the hate campaign against her with it ends with us 227 00:09:32,304 --> 00:09:34,984 Speaker 3: and all the interviews coming out, and now with her 228 00:09:35,024 --> 00:09:37,984 Speaker 3: formal complain against Justin and her suing him, and him 229 00:09:38,024 --> 00:09:41,184 Speaker 3: suing her, him building an entire website dedicated to taking 230 00:09:41,184 --> 00:09:41,664 Speaker 3: her down. 231 00:09:42,104 --> 00:09:44,424 Speaker 1: I would have thought that she wouldn't be there just 232 00:09:44,504 --> 00:09:46,344 Speaker 1: because of that. But for a lot of people, they 233 00:09:46,344 --> 00:09:48,664 Speaker 1: were looking for a sign if Taylor and Blake are 234 00:09:48,664 --> 00:09:50,944 Speaker 1: still friends, and they took that as a sign they weren't. 235 00:09:51,064 --> 00:09:53,864 Speaker 1: So if you're confused about why they aren't friends, first 236 00:09:53,864 --> 00:09:56,064 Speaker 1: of all, they have been friends since none of those photos, 237 00:09:56,104 --> 00:09:58,584 Speaker 1: like well over ten years now, when all those photos 238 00:09:58,584 --> 00:10:00,464 Speaker 1: came out of them, when they shut down Movie World 239 00:10:00,464 --> 00:10:04,344 Speaker 1: on the Gold Coast and they took photos there. Yeah, photo, 240 00:10:04,424 --> 00:10:06,104 Speaker 1: are you signed because you want to take down Movie? 241 00:10:06,104 --> 00:10:08,104 Speaker 2: Well? No, but you know what photo you just reminded 242 00:10:08,104 --> 00:10:11,264 Speaker 2: me of a friend that's stuck in my Mind's yeah, Kareem, I. 243 00:10:11,224 --> 00:10:12,864 Speaker 1: Know the one you're thinking of, the. 244 00:10:12,664 --> 00:10:15,264 Speaker 2: Worst photo I've ever seen in my entire life. I 245 00:10:15,304 --> 00:10:19,624 Speaker 2: don't know why she purposely posted this photo. It's where 246 00:10:19,704 --> 00:10:23,304 Speaker 2: like Blake, I think it was for July fourth, is 247 00:10:23,304 --> 00:10:26,664 Speaker 2: that they do where they were at one of their 248 00:10:26,664 --> 00:10:30,944 Speaker 2: holiday houses and Blake Lively was sitting on Ryan Reynold's 249 00:10:31,024 --> 00:10:34,184 Speaker 2: lap and next to them was Taylor Swift sitting on 250 00:10:34,264 --> 00:10:37,584 Speaker 2: Tom Hills. Yeah, I know exactly, and they were both 251 00:10:37,624 --> 00:10:42,064 Speaker 2: like kissing. It was so cringe, It was so bad. 252 00:10:42,464 --> 00:10:43,904 Speaker 2: I don't know what went through their heads when they 253 00:10:43,904 --> 00:10:46,584 Speaker 2: posted that. I had to pick up that photo. Couple's trip, 254 00:10:47,424 --> 00:10:49,384 Speaker 2: Well everyone else is I think they set up the camera. 255 00:10:49,664 --> 00:10:51,584 Speaker 1: No, no, no, it was definitely a drone that came 256 00:10:51,624 --> 00:10:53,784 Speaker 1: down over that beach, because Taylor Swift and that Rhode 257 00:10:53,824 --> 00:10:56,344 Speaker 1: Island property owns the beach and the property around it. 258 00:10:56,464 --> 00:10:57,944 Speaker 1: But you can get a drone over. That's how they 259 00:10:57,944 --> 00:10:58,744 Speaker 1: got the photos out. 260 00:10:58,784 --> 00:11:01,264 Speaker 2: So was it there drone? No, no, no, no, because that 261 00:11:01,424 --> 00:11:03,944 Speaker 2: was very posed. Well yeah, I mean it's because she 262 00:11:04,024 --> 00:11:05,624 Speaker 2: posted it on her Instagram. 263 00:11:05,744 --> 00:11:08,144 Speaker 1: Well yeah, you can post those kind of pat pics. 264 00:11:08,744 --> 00:11:10,744 Speaker 1: There's a few. There's some pat pics take and some 265 00:11:10,864 --> 00:11:12,824 Speaker 1: that they released, but they look very similar. But maybe 266 00:11:12,824 --> 00:11:14,184 Speaker 1: you're talking at the one she was on her Instagram 267 00:11:14,264 --> 00:11:16,384 Speaker 1: that is closer, and that's the one where they look 268 00:11:16,424 --> 00:11:17,944 Speaker 1: a bit more posed, and then the pat pics look 269 00:11:17,944 --> 00:11:18,864 Speaker 1: a bit more disheveled. 270 00:11:19,264 --> 00:11:20,944 Speaker 2: Oh I want to see the pat pics because then 271 00:11:20,944 --> 00:11:24,424 Speaker 2: you could see them like get into the position a trial. 272 00:11:25,704 --> 00:11:28,424 Speaker 1: Anyway, do you know their friendship actually started on a 273 00:11:28,424 --> 00:11:31,064 Speaker 1: bit of a feud. Do you know this law so 274 00:11:31,224 --> 00:11:32,984 Speaker 1: Blake Lively. You know how she's all like, I'm a 275 00:11:32,984 --> 00:11:37,824 Speaker 1: funny girl. I honestly didn't think I honestly don't think 276 00:11:37,864 --> 00:11:39,904 Speaker 1: that's that she meant to pick a public fight with 277 00:11:39,984 --> 00:11:42,224 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift. Like, let's give her a little bit of credit. 278 00:11:42,624 --> 00:11:44,184 Speaker 1: Is that? You know how She's all like, I'm funny 279 00:11:44,184 --> 00:11:46,864 Speaker 1: on Instagram, I'm funny on Twitter, and she and like 280 00:11:46,984 --> 00:11:49,104 Speaker 1: Ryan like that's our whole thing. Yeah, it's like, you know, 281 00:11:49,744 --> 00:11:51,784 Speaker 1: joking and all that sort of stuff. And so she 282 00:11:51,824 --> 00:11:53,464 Speaker 1: put out some sort of a joke about Taylor Swift, 283 00:11:53,464 --> 00:11:56,784 Speaker 1: and Taylors's fans of course saw it and got very upset. 284 00:11:57,064 --> 00:11:59,264 Speaker 1: And then apparently Blake reached out to Taylor and was like, 285 00:11:59,304 --> 00:12:01,664 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it was just a joke, and Taylor was like, obviously, 286 00:12:01,704 --> 00:12:04,224 Speaker 1: it's fine, I don't care what you say. And then 287 00:12:04,264 --> 00:12:05,664 Speaker 1: from there they built a friendship. 288 00:12:05,944 --> 00:12:06,544 Speaker 2: Interesting. 289 00:12:06,984 --> 00:12:09,784 Speaker 1: Okay, so what's happened in the last few days is 290 00:12:09,824 --> 00:12:13,224 Speaker 1: that obviously Taylor Swift was named and only named in 291 00:12:13,264 --> 00:12:15,304 Speaker 1: like kind of the side paper is not actually deposed. 292 00:12:15,344 --> 00:12:16,944 Speaker 2: What do you mean she was named as a dragon? 293 00:12:17,504 --> 00:12:21,184 Speaker 1: Well, yes, yes, we'll get to in the lawsuit that 294 00:12:21,464 --> 00:12:24,704 Speaker 1: Justin Baldoni has filed against Blake Clively and Ryan Reynolds 295 00:12:24,784 --> 00:12:27,624 Speaker 1: and like other members of their team. So in the 296 00:12:27,624 --> 00:12:31,024 Speaker 1: court documents, Justin Baldoni accuses Blake Lively of using her 297 00:12:31,064 --> 00:12:35,344 Speaker 1: mega celebrity friend and Ryan Reynolds to pressure him into 298 00:12:35,424 --> 00:12:39,024 Speaker 1: giving her creative control of It Ends with Us, specifically 299 00:12:39,184 --> 00:12:41,664 Speaker 1: the rewriting of the rooftop scene in the movie, which 300 00:12:41,664 --> 00:12:43,384 Speaker 1: has been the kind of a big crux of the 301 00:12:43,384 --> 00:12:45,824 Speaker 1: back and forth between the two of them. And so 302 00:12:46,064 --> 00:12:49,304 Speaker 1: there's a text message that allegedly Justin Baldoni wrote to 303 00:12:49,344 --> 00:12:51,904 Speaker 1: Blake Lively, which is part of like the formal part 304 00:12:51,904 --> 00:12:54,184 Speaker 1: of the law suit of evidence, and he wrote to her, 305 00:12:54,264 --> 00:12:55,784 Speaker 1: I really love what you did, and I would have 306 00:12:55,824 --> 00:12:59,104 Speaker 1: felt that way without Ryan and Taylor. So he's saying, 307 00:12:59,104 --> 00:13:00,344 Speaker 1: this is the whole thing where he said he went 308 00:13:00,384 --> 00:13:02,784 Speaker 1: to Blake and Ryan's apartment one night thinking it was 309 00:13:02,784 --> 00:13:04,424 Speaker 1: going to be a bit of a catch up, and 310 00:13:05,024 --> 00:13:08,344 Speaker 1: instead Ryan Reynolds and Taylor Swift were both there and 311 00:13:08,424 --> 00:13:10,984 Speaker 1: they started really pressuring him, saying this seeing that Blake 312 00:13:11,024 --> 00:13:12,944 Speaker 1: wrote it's amazing you should use her saying I was 313 00:13:12,984 --> 00:13:15,304 Speaker 1: blown away by it, And afterwards he's like, I was 314 00:13:15,304 --> 00:13:17,624 Speaker 1: really ambushed and I would have talked to you about it, 315 00:13:17,664 --> 00:13:19,864 Speaker 1: but you didn't have to bring your friends in, and 316 00:13:20,024 --> 00:13:21,864 Speaker 1: he names Taylor and there he's like, like, I would 317 00:13:21,904 --> 00:13:25,184 Speaker 1: have done it even if Ryan and Taylor hadn't been present. 318 00:13:25,264 --> 00:13:27,024 Speaker 1: And now he's saying that that was like a bullying 319 00:13:27,064 --> 00:13:30,584 Speaker 1: tactic from them. And also Justin Baldonie's lawyer, who you 320 00:13:30,584 --> 00:13:32,224 Speaker 1: know has been very vocal, has been saying that he 321 00:13:32,264 --> 00:13:35,144 Speaker 1: would he's looking into the possibility of deposing Taylor Swift 322 00:13:35,224 --> 00:13:35,944 Speaker 1: for the lawsuit. 323 00:13:36,024 --> 00:13:36,944 Speaker 2: Oh my god, so. 324 00:13:37,304 --> 00:13:39,064 Speaker 1: Really bringing her into it, although at this point in 325 00:13:39,064 --> 00:13:41,264 Speaker 1: time she's not officially named in any documents. She just 326 00:13:41,384 --> 00:13:44,384 Speaker 1: named in the examples he's using. Yeah, So what people 327 00:13:44,424 --> 00:13:46,544 Speaker 1: think now is because a lot of people expected that 328 00:13:46,624 --> 00:13:48,784 Speaker 1: when the whole thing came out, that New York Times 329 00:13:48,904 --> 00:13:53,624 Speaker 1: article about Justin Baldoni doing that smein campaign against Blake Lively, 330 00:13:53,944 --> 00:13:55,984 Speaker 1: a lot of Blake Lively's famous friends, like all of 331 00:13:55,984 --> 00:13:58,504 Speaker 1: her Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants co stars, all put 332 00:13:58,504 --> 00:14:02,584 Speaker 1: out statements in support of her family members did some 333 00:14:02,624 --> 00:14:04,864 Speaker 1: of the co stars on the movie. Everyone was sort 334 00:14:04,904 --> 00:14:07,184 Speaker 1: of saying like, yes, like we're team Blake and Taylor 335 00:14:07,224 --> 00:14:09,104 Speaker 1: Swift didn't do that, and people thought that she would, 336 00:14:09,104 --> 00:14:11,144 Speaker 1: being one of her closest friends and that her song 337 00:14:11,224 --> 00:14:12,744 Speaker 1: was used in the movie and that she's named in 338 00:14:12,784 --> 00:14:15,464 Speaker 1: the text messages. Instead, there's been a lot of reports 339 00:14:15,464 --> 00:14:18,904 Speaker 1: popping up from sources saying that Taylor doesn't want to 340 00:14:18,904 --> 00:14:20,544 Speaker 1: be involved in it, she doesn't want her name brought 341 00:14:20,584 --> 00:14:23,424 Speaker 1: into in any way, and so she's trying to extricated 342 00:14:23,464 --> 00:14:26,064 Speaker 1: from it. And so they're the sources that are out 343 00:14:26,104 --> 00:14:28,104 Speaker 1: there that some people are thinking, like, is Tree Pain 344 00:14:28,224 --> 00:14:31,864 Speaker 1: her publicist just planting those stories everywhere to steer it 345 00:14:31,904 --> 00:14:34,464 Speaker 1: away and take the drama out of it. And then 346 00:14:34,504 --> 00:14:37,784 Speaker 1: there's other sources that are saying that Blake and Taylor 347 00:14:37,864 --> 00:14:40,424 Speaker 1: have had a falling out, that Blake is very angry 348 00:14:40,424 --> 00:14:43,664 Speaker 1: that Taylor hasn't supported her publicly after supporting her so 349 00:14:43,784 --> 00:14:45,504 Speaker 1: much through the movie, but kind of as soon as 350 00:14:45,544 --> 00:14:48,304 Speaker 1: like the whole world turned against Blake again. This is 351 00:14:48,344 --> 00:14:51,184 Speaker 1: paraphrasing what sources have said. What they're saying is that 352 00:14:51,224 --> 00:14:54,344 Speaker 1: Blake has really hurt that Taylor didn't jump in when 353 00:14:54,384 --> 00:14:57,504 Speaker 1: her whole public downfall was happening, and then when the 354 00:14:57,504 --> 00:15:00,264 Speaker 1: New York Times article came out, everyone else around her 355 00:15:00,304 --> 00:15:04,384 Speaker 1: felt safe to defend her. Taylor didn't get involved in that. 356 00:15:04,664 --> 00:15:07,024 Speaker 1: And they're saying, now Taylor's angry because she's involved in 357 00:15:07,024 --> 00:15:08,624 Speaker 1: this lawsuit that she thinks she has something to do 358 00:15:08,744 --> 00:15:10,224 Speaker 1: with and her name's going to be dragged through them 359 00:15:10,424 --> 00:15:12,104 Speaker 1: and she's going to be deposed and so. 360 00:15:12,224 --> 00:15:15,544 Speaker 2: But like Taylor wouldn't like, I think we've learned from history, 361 00:15:15,584 --> 00:15:17,344 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying this is a good all bad thing. 362 00:15:17,384 --> 00:15:19,344 Speaker 2: It's just a thing that she's done for career, like 363 00:15:19,344 --> 00:15:23,024 Speaker 2: she'll always put her career and like the label that 364 00:15:23,104 --> 00:15:26,024 Speaker 2: she puts out there before anything else, before anyone else, 365 00:15:26,064 --> 00:15:28,944 Speaker 2: and that includes the friends that are surrounding her, Like 366 00:15:28,984 --> 00:15:31,704 Speaker 2: she's way too high up to be doing stuff like that. 367 00:15:31,904 --> 00:15:34,064 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I mean the thing is you never know 368 00:15:34,104 --> 00:15:36,224 Speaker 1: what's happening behind closed doors. But this whole idea that 369 00:15:36,224 --> 00:15:39,104 Speaker 1: they're not friends anymore, I don't quite believe, or if 370 00:15:39,104 --> 00:15:41,304 Speaker 1: they are, I think they would hide it very well. Like, yes, 371 00:15:41,344 --> 00:15:43,824 Speaker 1: they used to be seen together all the time, like 372 00:15:44,064 --> 00:15:46,344 Speaker 1: dinner dates all the time, going to like events with 373 00:15:46,384 --> 00:15:49,024 Speaker 1: each other, all the time, Taylor's the godmother to like 374 00:15:49,064 --> 00:15:51,424 Speaker 1: their children, Like there's a whole kind of layer there. 375 00:15:51,584 --> 00:15:53,744 Speaker 1: But I also think like Taylor's except for going to 376 00:15:53,744 --> 00:15:55,664 Speaker 1: the super Bowl, has just really been out of the 377 00:15:55,704 --> 00:15:58,664 Speaker 1: public eye lately, as have Blake and Ryan because they're 378 00:15:58,744 --> 00:16:01,184 Speaker 1: so like Deadpool has been up for a whole bunch 379 00:16:01,184 --> 00:16:04,264 Speaker 1: of awards, and Ryan Reynolds when his movie wins something, 380 00:16:04,304 --> 00:16:06,864 Speaker 1: he posts it, but they haven't gone to any ceremonious 381 00:16:06,904 --> 00:16:09,384 Speaker 1: red carpets. It's like the four of them have just 382 00:16:09,384 --> 00:16:11,344 Speaker 1: been saying out the spot. I think that's why we 383 00:16:11,384 --> 00:16:13,864 Speaker 1: haven't seen them not so much. They're not hanging out together. 384 00:16:14,384 --> 00:16:16,424 Speaker 1: And I would just say it's more that Taylor knows 385 00:16:16,464 --> 00:16:18,744 Speaker 1: that once she gets involved, you're right, it'll like Lola. 386 00:16:19,224 --> 00:16:22,264 Speaker 1: And it's also kind of proving justin Baldoni's point that 387 00:16:22,344 --> 00:16:24,824 Speaker 1: she's bringing her mega celebrity friends to bully him. So 388 00:16:24,984 --> 00:16:27,544 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm sure Taylor doesn't want to be involved. 389 00:16:27,584 --> 00:16:29,184 Speaker 2: It just feels like so like we talked about this 390 00:16:29,344 --> 00:16:31,944 Speaker 2: so much, and obviously there's more to talk about when 391 00:16:32,024 --> 00:16:34,784 Speaker 2: the court the case happens. Yeah, I'm like, this is 392 00:16:34,824 --> 00:16:37,744 Speaker 2: a lot for a movie that was at most subper. 393 00:16:38,624 --> 00:16:40,944 Speaker 1: It's not about the movie, Emily, that's all the drama 394 00:16:40,984 --> 00:16:43,264 Speaker 1: that happened behind it, which someone will do a documentary 395 00:16:43,264 --> 00:16:45,544 Speaker 1: on someday. So at this stage, I think that Blake 396 00:16:45,584 --> 00:16:47,264 Speaker 1: Lively just didn't want to go to the super Bowl 397 00:16:47,304 --> 00:16:50,064 Speaker 1: because she knew that if she was there, all the 398 00:16:50,224 --> 00:16:52,784 Speaker 1: articles would just be about her and all like you know, 399 00:16:52,824 --> 00:16:54,784 Speaker 1: the tiktoks and everything would be like, oh, look, she says, 400 00:16:54,824 --> 00:16:57,744 Speaker 1: she's so traumatized, but she's out there celebrating. It's like 401 00:16:57,744 --> 00:16:59,384 Speaker 1: a no win situation for her to go to the 402 00:16:59,424 --> 00:17:01,424 Speaker 1: super Bowl in such a public place, because because. 403 00:17:01,264 --> 00:17:03,904 Speaker 2: People who are ledgedies actually shouldn't be happy. 404 00:17:04,064 --> 00:17:06,304 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So if she goes there and she looks happy, 405 00:17:06,304 --> 00:17:08,584 Speaker 1: they were like, oh, look at her, she's fine, she's celebrating. 406 00:17:08,624 --> 00:17:10,984 Speaker 1: She's trying to ruin this man's life, and often this 407 00:17:11,184 --> 00:17:15,064 Speaker 1: like fancy fifty thousand dollars sweet at the super Bowl. 408 00:17:15,384 --> 00:17:18,304 Speaker 1: And then if she looks serious and sad, then all 409 00:17:18,304 --> 00:17:20,864 Speaker 1: the stories will be like poor, like broken Blake, like 410 00:17:21,104 --> 00:17:22,864 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like the what is the 411 00:17:22,864 --> 00:17:24,704 Speaker 1: win for her to go to the super Bowl if 412 00:17:24,744 --> 00:17:26,544 Speaker 1: the whole time she knows that the article is going 413 00:17:26,584 --> 00:17:29,064 Speaker 1: to be against her, So I don't think they're fighting, 414 00:17:29,184 --> 00:17:30,384 Speaker 1: but I would love to. 415 00:17:30,304 --> 00:17:34,744 Speaker 2: Know the real story Nana. So Kanye West, we don't 416 00:17:34,784 --> 00:17:37,704 Speaker 2: know if his Twitter account has been deactivated or if 417 00:17:37,744 --> 00:17:40,984 Speaker 2: he's deactivated it. That's still like out in the open. 418 00:17:41,384 --> 00:17:44,664 Speaker 2: But so much has happened with him since the Grammy. 419 00:17:44,864 --> 00:17:46,904 Speaker 2: Since when we talked about the Grammys and he came, 420 00:17:47,224 --> 00:17:49,944 Speaker 2: we'd be Ankerson sorry, and we were like, what is 421 00:17:49,984 --> 00:17:52,224 Speaker 2: she wearing? We were trying to dissect that he wasn't 422 00:17:52,224 --> 00:17:54,464 Speaker 2: actually allowed into the award. So they give the red 423 00:17:54,464 --> 00:17:55,704 Speaker 2: carpet and then they left. 424 00:17:55,744 --> 00:17:58,264 Speaker 1: Which some people have said that that was their plan 425 00:17:58,384 --> 00:18:00,384 Speaker 1: all along, that they didn't have tickets to go to the 426 00:18:00,424 --> 00:18:02,464 Speaker 1: Grammys because they didn't want to. They just wanted to 427 00:18:02,504 --> 00:18:05,344 Speaker 1: walk the red carpet. And then apparently afterwards Kanye West 428 00:18:05,344 --> 00:18:07,624 Speaker 1: was getting very angry that someone had planted stories about 429 00:18:07,624 --> 00:18:10,224 Speaker 1: them getting kicked out. But it's all very messy. 430 00:18:10,464 --> 00:18:12,984 Speaker 2: So this is all kicked off a few days ago. 431 00:18:13,184 --> 00:18:18,624 Speaker 2: On February seventh, he started tweeting some insane things, and 432 00:18:18,664 --> 00:18:21,384 Speaker 2: I feel like insane is the proper word to use here. 433 00:18:21,584 --> 00:18:24,504 Speaker 2: He was calling himself a Nazi. He was saying, I 434 00:18:24,624 --> 00:18:28,504 Speaker 2: love Hitler. He started promoting NATI themed merch on his 435 00:18:28,584 --> 00:18:33,544 Speaker 2: official Yeezy website. He was also posting about supporting Sean 436 00:18:33,624 --> 00:18:36,464 Speaker 2: Combs P Diddy, Who've talked a lot about on the podcast, 437 00:18:37,024 --> 00:18:39,544 Speaker 2: And it was just like one of those like situations 438 00:18:39,544 --> 00:18:41,984 Speaker 2: where I feel like we've seen him like go through 439 00:18:42,024 --> 00:18:44,784 Speaker 2: in the past a lot, and everyone just tried to 440 00:18:44,824 --> 00:18:47,344 Speaker 2: ignore it. And especially this has happened for the first 441 00:18:47,344 --> 00:18:50,824 Speaker 2: time since Elon Musk has taken over Twitter as well, 442 00:18:50,864 --> 00:18:54,384 Speaker 2: now called X And after all of these tweets, Elon 443 00:18:54,464 --> 00:18:57,424 Speaker 2: Musk unfollowed him on X and they were putting content 444 00:18:57,464 --> 00:18:59,624 Speaker 2: warnings on his profile, saying that it was not safe 445 00:18:59,624 --> 00:19:01,584 Speaker 2: to work, that it was like explicit content. So they 446 00:19:01,624 --> 00:19:03,944 Speaker 2: had like all these warnings in plays. But then it 447 00:19:04,104 --> 00:19:07,824 Speaker 2: like ramped up completely during and after the Super Bowl, 448 00:19:07,864 --> 00:19:12,464 Speaker 2: in particular, he started posting about both Taylor Swift and Kendrick. 449 00:19:12,824 --> 00:19:15,624 Speaker 2: For Taylor Swift, he wrote in all caps, why are 450 00:19:15,664 --> 00:19:18,144 Speaker 2: we letting Taylor Swift be seen on TV singing a 451 00:19:18,184 --> 00:19:21,264 Speaker 2: song about taking a black man down and accusing of 452 00:19:21,344 --> 00:19:24,344 Speaker 2: things that can take a black man down for life. 453 00:19:24,384 --> 00:19:27,744 Speaker 2: He then tweeted while Kendrick was performing, Kendrick is being 454 00:19:27,864 --> 00:19:30,864 Speaker 2: used by these white people and Jews, and so am 455 00:19:30,904 --> 00:19:34,464 Speaker 2: I as I tweet in code words and kiss Elon's 456 00:19:34,624 --> 00:19:37,144 Speaker 2: ass and beg him not to cancel my account. 457 00:19:37,704 --> 00:19:39,384 Speaker 1: I mean, that's probably the most real thing he's ever 458 00:19:39,384 --> 00:19:41,624 Speaker 1: said about Elon, because you know, Elon Musk doesn't care 459 00:19:41,704 --> 00:19:44,224 Speaker 1: since he bought Twitter and has also started to take 460 00:19:44,264 --> 00:19:46,864 Speaker 1: the world down. He doesn't care if Kanye puts any 461 00:19:46,904 --> 00:19:48,864 Speaker 1: hate speech out. He just cares if he says anything 462 00:19:48,904 --> 00:19:50,744 Speaker 1: that looks bad towards Elon Musk. 463 00:19:51,064 --> 00:19:53,984 Speaker 2: It was like actually insane, and the fact that this 464 00:19:54,064 --> 00:19:56,304 Speaker 2: even got picked up during the whole Super Bowl, like 465 00:19:56,384 --> 00:20:00,264 Speaker 2: it was everywhere. It took away so much from Kendrick's 466 00:20:00,264 --> 00:20:03,224 Speaker 2: performance from the actual game, from like all the stuff 467 00:20:03,224 --> 00:20:05,504 Speaker 2: that has been saying by Taylor Swift like that also 468 00:20:05,624 --> 00:20:08,544 Speaker 2: like influenced like the huge pylon that she was having. 469 00:20:08,864 --> 00:20:11,024 Speaker 2: And it was just like so white for me to 470 00:20:11,064 --> 00:20:13,464 Speaker 2: see because when you saw clips of Taylor Swift at 471 00:20:13,504 --> 00:20:15,664 Speaker 2: the game, every time the camera pan to her, people 472 00:20:15,704 --> 00:20:18,064 Speaker 2: were just boom, get crazy. And we just briefly talked 473 00:20:18,064 --> 00:20:21,344 Speaker 2: about how all the tweets about her about like how 474 00:20:21,384 --> 00:20:23,904 Speaker 2: gross they were and how dangerous they were. Yeah, and 475 00:20:23,944 --> 00:20:27,184 Speaker 2: then you have someone from like Kanye West status, who 476 00:20:27,184 --> 00:20:30,704 Speaker 2: has like millions and millions of followers perpetuating those. 477 00:20:30,504 --> 00:20:32,904 Speaker 1: Things exactly, and seeing Kanye West. The scary thing like 478 00:20:32,944 --> 00:20:35,384 Speaker 1: this is Kanye West isn't saying any niche things. Like 479 00:20:35,504 --> 00:20:37,744 Speaker 1: so many people in the world, but a particularly in 480 00:20:37,784 --> 00:20:40,464 Speaker 1: America right now would agree with what he's saying, which 481 00:20:40,464 --> 00:20:44,424 Speaker 1: is the truly terrifying thing with the hate speech towards 482 00:20:44,504 --> 00:20:47,344 Speaker 1: Jewish people that has really escalated recently, but also what 483 00:20:47,344 --> 00:20:49,784 Speaker 1: he's saying about Taylor Swift because so many people's tweets 484 00:20:49,784 --> 00:20:53,304 Speaker 1: and tiktoks and in stipos yesterday were I'm so happy 485 00:20:53,304 --> 00:20:55,424 Speaker 1: to be back in a world where Donald Trump is 486 00:20:55,424 --> 00:20:58,144 Speaker 1: applauded and Taylor Swift is booed. That's the world I 487 00:20:58,184 --> 00:20:59,864 Speaker 1: want to live in. We're so back, and I'm like, 488 00:20:59,904 --> 00:21:01,904 Speaker 1: first of all, I get the ick from old white 489 00:21:01,944 --> 00:21:04,664 Speaker 1: men saying we are so bad. Were also if that's 490 00:21:04,664 --> 00:21:06,624 Speaker 1: where the world is, I absolutely want. 491 00:21:06,464 --> 00:21:09,664 Speaker 2: To get off, no get out. So yeah, it was 492 00:21:09,744 --> 00:21:12,984 Speaker 2: all spiral yesterday during the Super Bowl to the point 493 00:21:13,064 --> 00:21:14,984 Speaker 2: where I feel like we rarely see this, but where 494 00:21:15,024 --> 00:21:17,904 Speaker 2: other celebrities were also like, yeah, what the hell is 495 00:21:17,944 --> 00:21:21,064 Speaker 2: going on? David Trimmer who everyone knows from Russ and 496 00:21:21,104 --> 00:21:22,224 Speaker 2: Friends everyone. 497 00:21:22,264 --> 00:21:23,944 Speaker 1: I think you say everyone knows as Ross and just 498 00:21:23,944 --> 00:21:24,704 Speaker 1: know nothing else. 499 00:21:25,064 --> 00:21:27,744 Speaker 2: But I know him from the new Goosebumps. 500 00:21:27,944 --> 00:21:31,464 Speaker 1: Oh he's great enough. Love you, David Trim, love you. 501 00:21:31,584 --> 00:21:35,824 Speaker 2: Love Disney Plus. He posted on Instagram about Kanye West, 502 00:21:35,864 --> 00:21:39,704 Speaker 2: saying deranged bigots spewing hate field ignorant bile. He also 503 00:21:39,744 --> 00:21:42,384 Speaker 2: pointed out that Kanye West has thirty two point seven 504 00:21:42,544 --> 00:21:45,984 Speaker 2: million followers, which is twice the number of Jewish people 505 00:21:46,064 --> 00:21:49,184 Speaker 2: in the world, and said that Kanye's sick hate speech 506 00:21:49,304 --> 00:21:53,424 Speaker 2: results in real life violence against Jews. And he also 507 00:21:53,664 --> 00:21:56,264 Speaker 2: urged and called out Elon Musk to remove him from 508 00:21:56,304 --> 00:21:59,264 Speaker 2: the platform after this all went down, And this is 509 00:21:59,304 --> 00:22:02,344 Speaker 2: where it gets really confusing, because we're not sure if 510 00:22:02,384 --> 00:22:04,984 Speaker 2: Kanye West actually has been kicked off x or if 511 00:22:04,984 --> 00:22:08,944 Speaker 2: he decided to leave it himself. But his last tweet 512 00:22:08,984 --> 00:22:12,504 Speaker 2: before his account disappeared, it said, I'm logging out of Twitter. 513 00:22:12,624 --> 00:22:15,304 Speaker 2: I appreciate Elon for allowing me to vent. It has 514 00:22:15,344 --> 00:22:19,024 Speaker 2: been very catharic to use the world as a sounding board. Jesus, 515 00:22:19,304 --> 00:22:22,064 Speaker 2: it was like an Iahuascar trip. And then that was 516 00:22:22,104 --> 00:22:25,624 Speaker 2: the last tweet he ever did. And now everyone's like, Oh, 517 00:22:25,664 --> 00:22:27,584 Speaker 2: he just said what he wanted to say, and now 518 00:22:27,624 --> 00:22:29,784 Speaker 2: he's gone. He like said what he needed to say, 519 00:22:30,184 --> 00:22:32,744 Speaker 2: And I'm like, I feel like, personally, I think he 520 00:22:32,864 --> 00:22:35,904 Speaker 2: was kicked off Twitter, and I hope so, but like 521 00:22:35,984 --> 00:22:38,504 Speaker 2: Elon Musk would never say, because there's so much power 522 00:22:38,584 --> 00:22:40,704 Speaker 2: in that relationship between him and Kanye. 523 00:22:41,024 --> 00:22:43,384 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. And also a lot of times over the 524 00:22:43,464 --> 00:22:46,304 Speaker 1: years when Kanie West has just had like a erratic 525 00:22:46,424 --> 00:22:50,264 Speaker 1: but kind of like not like overly troubling behavior, people 526 00:22:50,264 --> 00:22:52,104 Speaker 1: could write it off as like, you know, he's just 527 00:22:52,144 --> 00:22:55,104 Speaker 1: an artist, He's just you know, he's just creative, or 528 00:22:55,104 --> 00:22:57,264 Speaker 1: like he has some sort of mental health problems in 529 00:22:57,304 --> 00:23:00,304 Speaker 1: some sense. But I think over the years, particularly with 530 00:23:00,384 --> 00:23:03,544 Speaker 1: the racism element to the content he puts out, has 531 00:23:03,584 --> 00:23:07,064 Speaker 1: become really dangerous and some people are still really scared 532 00:23:07,104 --> 00:23:09,624 Speaker 1: to sort of say anything about him. One because Kim 533 00:23:09,664 --> 00:23:13,144 Speaker 1: Kardashian has posted before about bipolar disorder and all these 534 00:23:13,144 --> 00:23:15,584 Speaker 1: other different things that he has been diagnosed with and 535 00:23:15,624 --> 00:23:17,104 Speaker 1: ask people to sort of give him a little bit 536 00:23:17,144 --> 00:23:19,064 Speaker 1: of break, although she hasn't said anything about this, And 537 00:23:19,104 --> 00:23:21,264 Speaker 1: also like nor should she, Like she can't be responsible 538 00:23:21,264 --> 00:23:24,024 Speaker 1: for everything everything that man does she also has to 539 00:23:24,024 --> 00:23:26,904 Speaker 1: like look after her four children who would be having 540 00:23:26,944 --> 00:23:29,424 Speaker 1: access to all of this content at the moment. But 541 00:23:29,544 --> 00:23:32,224 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, with like recently with Kanye West, it's 542 00:23:32,264 --> 00:23:34,304 Speaker 1: this whole thing where it's tipped over from just being 543 00:23:34,344 --> 00:23:37,424 Speaker 1: like erratic behavior or like artistic behavior or mental health 544 00:23:37,464 --> 00:23:39,584 Speaker 1: behavior into like really dangerous. 545 00:23:39,744 --> 00:23:39,984 Speaker 2: Yeah. 546 00:23:39,984 --> 00:23:41,864 Speaker 1: And then sometimes you see videos of him and he 547 00:23:41,944 --> 00:23:43,984 Speaker 1: just looks so cool, calm and calculated, Like I know, 548 00:23:44,064 --> 00:23:45,264 Speaker 1: I know a lot of the issue is that he 549 00:23:45,304 --> 00:23:47,944 Speaker 1: swings between different moods. But if you watch the videos 550 00:23:47,944 --> 00:23:50,744 Speaker 1: of him walking into the Grammys, and some people are 551 00:23:50,744 --> 00:23:53,184 Speaker 1: saying he was erratic, but he's so cool, calm and 552 00:23:53,224 --> 00:23:56,664 Speaker 1: collected and like focused walking into the Grammys, and reporters 553 00:23:56,704 --> 00:23:59,384 Speaker 1: are trying to ask him questions and he'll like, please 554 00:23:59,384 --> 00:24:01,464 Speaker 1: don't call me Krannate. My name is Ya. It's been 555 00:24:01,584 --> 00:24:04,664 Speaker 1: officially changed. Please respect that, like so calm, And then 556 00:24:04,664 --> 00:24:06,104 Speaker 1: he's saying to people like, I'm just trying to take 557 00:24:06,104 --> 00:24:08,064 Speaker 1: a moment. I'm not doing interviews right now. I just 558 00:24:08,064 --> 00:24:10,104 Speaker 1: want to focus on going on the red carpet, Like 559 00:24:10,104 --> 00:24:11,984 Speaker 1: that's where my mind is. I'm just taking a moment, 560 00:24:12,024 --> 00:24:14,424 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. And it's like that is a 561 00:24:14,664 --> 00:24:17,624 Speaker 1: I don't know in that moment, that's a very calculated 562 00:24:17,624 --> 00:24:20,304 Speaker 1: person who's going in to pull that stunt to push 563 00:24:20,304 --> 00:24:23,064 Speaker 1: people to his website. Wait, isn't it the only thing 564 00:24:23,104 --> 00:24:24,624 Speaker 1: you can buy on that website the moment he's been 565 00:24:24,664 --> 00:24:26,904 Speaker 1: promoted a T shirt with a swatsticker on it. 566 00:24:26,984 --> 00:24:27,984 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the. 567 00:24:27,864 --> 00:24:30,264 Speaker 1: Fact that that's still live. I also saw that it's. 568 00:24:30,104 --> 00:24:31,704 Speaker 2: A one thing. It's like it's the only thing on 569 00:24:31,744 --> 00:24:32,624 Speaker 2: his website. 570 00:24:32,264 --> 00:24:34,224 Speaker 1: Exactly, and you can just buy it and that's fine. 571 00:24:34,264 --> 00:24:36,144 Speaker 1: And that's what a bunch of celebrities have also been 572 00:24:36,144 --> 00:24:39,024 Speaker 1: tweeting and saying, like is it okay that this shirt 573 00:24:39,104 --> 00:24:41,344 Speaker 1: on a celebrity website? Well, it shouldn't be okay anywhere, 574 00:24:41,344 --> 00:24:43,784 Speaker 1: but obviously there's more eyes on the celebrity owned brand 575 00:24:43,904 --> 00:24:45,624 Speaker 1: that you can just buy this T shirt. And also 576 00:24:45,624 --> 00:24:47,384 Speaker 1: I saw that he had some ads running around the 577 00:24:47,384 --> 00:24:50,544 Speaker 1: Super Bowl which you could push to the website. But 578 00:24:50,544 --> 00:24:52,784 Speaker 1: then the only thing on the website is the sticker shirt. 579 00:24:52,904 --> 00:24:55,784 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really messy and it's so so dangerous. If 580 00:24:55,784 --> 00:24:58,944 Speaker 2: he did get kicked off x Twitter, then this would 581 00:24:58,984 --> 00:25:01,144 Speaker 2: be the third time, Like you got kicked off and 582 00:25:01,184 --> 00:25:03,824 Speaker 2: we talked about it in twenty twenty two twice, and 583 00:25:03,824 --> 00:25:06,264 Speaker 2: I'm like, how many chances can someone get I get 584 00:25:06,344 --> 00:25:08,024 Speaker 2: enough enough, stay off the platform. 585 00:25:08,144 --> 00:25:09,624 Speaker 1: I know, but I just think there's just been so 586 00:25:09,624 --> 00:25:11,984 Speaker 1: many chances afforded to this man. And it's also like 587 00:25:11,984 --> 00:25:13,904 Speaker 1: at what stage, Like he's already said some of the 588 00:25:13,944 --> 00:25:16,704 Speaker 1: worst things you could ever say publicly, He's already behaved 589 00:25:16,784 --> 00:25:18,224 Speaker 1: in you know what I mean, Like he's. 590 00:25:18,384 --> 00:25:20,184 Speaker 2: It's like you're saying, how FI can push it? Well, 591 00:25:20,184 --> 00:25:21,184 Speaker 2: like he's already pushed it. 592 00:25:21,344 --> 00:25:23,584 Speaker 1: The first time he started spewing a lot of hate 593 00:25:23,584 --> 00:25:26,944 Speaker 1: towards Jewish people on his socials, there was a reported 594 00:25:27,024 --> 00:25:30,624 Speaker 1: uptick in violence against Jewish people in America that people 595 00:25:30,624 --> 00:25:32,744 Speaker 1: were saying was a direct result of what he had said. 596 00:25:33,024 --> 00:25:36,144 Speaker 1: So he's already physically hurt people. He's also he's also 597 00:25:36,184 --> 00:25:38,904 Speaker 1: physically attacked people on the street, like obviously they're photographers 598 00:25:38,944 --> 00:25:41,424 Speaker 1: who are taking pictures of him, but you know that's happened. 599 00:25:41,784 --> 00:25:44,424 Speaker 1: He's said some really horrific things about his family and 600 00:25:44,464 --> 00:25:46,424 Speaker 1: his wife and all that sort of thing. It's like 601 00:25:46,504 --> 00:25:49,024 Speaker 1: he's already pushed the bar as far as it can go, 602 00:25:49,224 --> 00:25:51,304 Speaker 1: and there's kind of just and people still love him. 603 00:25:51,304 --> 00:25:54,744 Speaker 1: People still want to buy his merchandise, and I just 604 00:25:55,104 --> 00:25:57,704 Speaker 1: a lot of it does seem to be some sort 605 00:25:57,744 --> 00:26:00,664 Speaker 1: of publicity, like I guess with Biankersen, sorry his wife, 606 00:26:00,704 --> 00:26:02,624 Speaker 1: Like I know there's a lot of people saying that 607 00:26:02,624 --> 00:26:04,984 Speaker 1: that's a control thing, and I would say, like, potentially 608 00:26:05,064 --> 00:26:06,784 Speaker 1: it is, like we don't know because we never hear 609 00:26:06,864 --> 00:26:11,104 Speaker 1: her speak, but all of her socials. Yeah, well that's 610 00:26:11,104 --> 00:26:13,144 Speaker 1: the thing. Like people are saying, like, but how could 611 00:26:13,184 --> 00:26:15,504 Speaker 1: she be forced to wear something and being controlled if 612 00:26:15,544 --> 00:26:16,984 Speaker 1: she was singing an after party? And I was like, 613 00:26:16,984 --> 00:26:19,024 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know how abusive relationships work, 614 00:26:19,104 --> 00:26:21,744 Speaker 1: but like the whole thing around abusive relationships is that 615 00:26:21,784 --> 00:26:24,104 Speaker 1: sometimes they do present publicly. I'm not saying they are. 616 00:26:24,144 --> 00:26:27,864 Speaker 1: I have no idea what goes on. Yeah, you can't 617 00:26:27,864 --> 00:26:29,904 Speaker 1: just say because there's a video of her singing and 618 00:26:29,944 --> 00:26:32,904 Speaker 1: looking happy, it's fine, yeah that I mean you know 619 00:26:32,944 --> 00:26:35,424 Speaker 1: that there's nothing happening behind the scenes. But I think 620 00:26:35,424 --> 00:26:38,024 Speaker 1: it's just continues to be like a really dangerous situation. 621 00:26:38,104 --> 00:26:39,904 Speaker 1: But the thing is the people in power who could 622 00:26:39,944 --> 00:26:43,424 Speaker 1: stop him, which is in large part taking away his 623 00:26:43,544 --> 00:26:47,344 Speaker 1: access to social platforms, are Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg, 624 00:26:47,784 --> 00:26:50,624 Speaker 1: who have like publicly aligned with Donald Trump in his 625 00:26:50,664 --> 00:26:52,944 Speaker 1: way of speaking. So the two people that could kind 626 00:26:52,984 --> 00:26:55,744 Speaker 1: of take away his access to the public are the 627 00:26:55,824 --> 00:26:59,064 Speaker 1: people who would be more invested if he continues to 628 00:26:59,144 --> 00:27:01,504 Speaker 1: kind of speak the way they want him to, would 629 00:27:01,504 --> 00:27:03,624 Speaker 1: be more invested in giving him a public platform. 630 00:27:03,704 --> 00:27:05,704 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I getting the engagement, Like why would they? 631 00:27:05,824 --> 00:27:06,464 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. 632 00:27:06,744 --> 00:27:08,944 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today. 633 00:27:09,144 --> 00:27:11,384 Speaker 2: If you haven't listened to yesterday episode, we did a 634 00:27:11,424 --> 00:27:13,784 Speaker 2: full recap of the super Bowl. It was so much 635 00:27:13,824 --> 00:27:16,304 Speaker 2: fun to record that and watch it. 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