1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:15,064 Speaker 1: So much. You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma 2 00:00:15,104 --> 00:00:18,824 Speaker 1: Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that 3 00:00:18,904 --> 00:00:20,544 Speaker 1: this podcast is recorded on. 4 00:00:25,184 --> 00:00:28,064 Speaker 2: From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill your daily pop 5 00:00:28,104 --> 00:00:28,824 Speaker 2: culture Fixed. 6 00:00:28,984 --> 00:00:31,984 Speaker 1: I'm m Vernon and I'm Laura Brodnick on the show today. 7 00:00:32,264 --> 00:00:34,264 Speaker 1: It's what you've all been asking for. And by all, 8 00:00:34,304 --> 00:00:36,424 Speaker 1: I mean Emily. And also, this is the most show 9 00:00:36,464 --> 00:00:38,824 Speaker 1: on Netflix in Australia at the moment. We are doing 10 00:00:38,864 --> 00:00:42,784 Speaker 1: a brillly honest review on America's Sweetheart Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders, 11 00:00:43,104 --> 00:00:46,384 Speaker 1: the new Netflix documentary that everyone is talking about. We're 12 00:00:46,424 --> 00:00:50,224 Speaker 1: going deep with opinions and fights up to the last episodes. 13 00:00:50,264 --> 00:00:52,384 Speaker 1: If you haven't watched it, make sure you do that, 14 00:00:52,504 --> 00:00:54,344 Speaker 1: or if you don't care about spoilers, I guess just 15 00:00:54,384 --> 00:00:56,984 Speaker 1: forge on ahead. Sorry, we are recording a little bit 16 00:00:57,064 --> 00:01:00,584 Speaker 1: later than normal today because Emily's had a slight emotional 17 00:01:00,624 --> 00:01:03,184 Speaker 1: breakdown in the studio that was full mental breakday. I 18 00:01:03,384 --> 00:01:06,784 Speaker 1: did cause it. I'm so sorry we did film it. 19 00:01:06,824 --> 00:01:08,104 Speaker 1: Maybe I'll put it on the skill Instagram. 20 00:01:08,144 --> 00:01:09,064 Speaker 2: Are we allowed to say why? 21 00:01:09,304 --> 00:01:11,144 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can say why if you if you're okay, 22 00:01:11,144 --> 00:01:11,624 Speaker 1: admitting it. 23 00:01:11,704 --> 00:01:15,304 Speaker 2: I'm okay, actually I feel it fit and you admit it. 24 00:01:15,504 --> 00:01:17,504 Speaker 1: So today I got what was a very exciting email. 25 00:01:17,504 --> 00:01:20,464 Speaker 1: I got invited to the Australian premiere of Deadpool and Wolverine, 26 00:01:20,584 --> 00:01:23,584 Speaker 1: the upcoming superhero team up movie with Ryan Reynolds and 27 00:01:23,664 --> 00:01:25,864 Speaker 1: Hugh Jackman. And I was like, I know a young 28 00:01:25,944 --> 00:01:28,664 Speaker 1: lady who will be quite thrilled about this. And so 29 00:01:28,784 --> 00:01:31,584 Speaker 1: as we're sitting here about to start the record, I said, oh, 30 00:01:31,584 --> 00:01:33,144 Speaker 1: I got invite to this movie? Do you want to come? 31 00:01:33,424 --> 00:01:35,264 Speaker 1: And I showed you the picture of the invitation just 32 00:01:35,264 --> 00:01:36,544 Speaker 1: so you could see the time and date, and I 33 00:01:36,544 --> 00:01:39,544 Speaker 1: thought you'd say, oh, that sounds fun. Yeah. Instead, guys, 34 00:01:39,984 --> 00:01:45,224 Speaker 1: Emily's face. She looks shocked, her face crumpled, her eyes widened, 35 00:01:45,264 --> 00:01:49,944 Speaker 1: and then actual, real life tears started pouring out of 36 00:01:49,944 --> 00:01:53,784 Speaker 1: your eyes. I'm sorry, did a family member of something 37 00:01:53,824 --> 00:01:55,424 Speaker 1: die in a Deadpool screener? Like? I don't know where 38 00:01:55,424 --> 00:01:57,104 Speaker 1: you're going to go with that? Are you crying again? 39 00:01:57,344 --> 00:02:00,544 Speaker 2: Yeah? You guys will know if you've been a long 40 00:02:00,584 --> 00:02:02,664 Speaker 2: time listen not to spill. I have recommended X Men 41 00:02:02,704 --> 00:02:04,304 Speaker 2: as a week and watch in the past. I think 42 00:02:04,304 --> 00:02:07,064 Speaker 2: I've done it a few times. And this movie I've 43 00:02:07,104 --> 00:02:10,904 Speaker 2: been so excited to watch because spoil alert if you 44 00:02:10,944 --> 00:02:14,544 Speaker 2: haven't followed Wolverine, Hugh Jackman's character, he actually dies in 45 00:02:14,584 --> 00:02:16,624 Speaker 2: the X Men series, and now I don't know if 46 00:02:16,624 --> 00:02:18,144 Speaker 2: he's coming back to life or that it's going to 47 00:02:18,184 --> 00:02:20,224 Speaker 2: be like before he died. I know this is not 48 00:02:20,264 --> 00:02:22,024 Speaker 2: even part of the show, but I'm getting rose up. 49 00:02:22,184 --> 00:02:24,184 Speaker 2: I'm getting wrapped up right now. And I was just like, 50 00:02:24,264 --> 00:02:26,104 Speaker 2: X Men's been my favorite franchise ses I was fifteen. 51 00:02:26,144 --> 00:02:28,424 Speaker 2: I just got slemotion. I don't know why. Well, that's 52 00:02:28,464 --> 00:02:29,224 Speaker 2: also been a time. 53 00:02:29,264 --> 00:02:31,904 Speaker 1: You know what, Well, we're going in two weeks week, 54 00:02:32,144 --> 00:02:34,064 Speaker 1: give me a break. We're going to see that movie 55 00:02:34,064 --> 00:02:35,904 Speaker 1: in two weeks. Sorry if Emily cries during the screen, 56 00:02:35,944 --> 00:02:37,784 Speaker 1: and I will film it for you all. Anyway, onto 57 00:02:37,824 --> 00:02:40,464 Speaker 1: our actual show today, and that is a completely different show. 58 00:02:40,504 --> 00:02:41,664 Speaker 2: It's not an X Men show. 59 00:02:41,704 --> 00:02:43,744 Speaker 1: It's not an x Men show, although the hype around 60 00:02:43,744 --> 00:02:46,784 Speaker 1: it has been quite intense. So back in twenty twenty three, 61 00:02:47,024 --> 00:02:50,544 Speaker 1: Florence Pugh and Andrew Garfield, those two good looking, good 62 00:02:50,544 --> 00:02:53,944 Speaker 1: actory kids, presented on stage together at the Academy Awards, 63 00:02:53,944 --> 00:02:56,224 Speaker 1: and their chemistry was so great and everyone's like, oh man, 64 00:02:56,304 --> 00:02:58,424 Speaker 1: these two should be in a rom com together. Well, 65 00:02:58,464 --> 00:03:01,064 Speaker 1: our prayers have been answered, because the first trailer for 66 00:03:01,104 --> 00:03:04,064 Speaker 1: their movie together, We Live in Time, has just been released. 67 00:03:04,784 --> 00:03:08,024 Speaker 2: What happened to My Bye? This is an idea. 68 00:03:08,344 --> 00:03:18,784 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry each other yet no I run you over? Sorry, 69 00:03:20,024 --> 00:03:23,144 Speaker 1: I'm almer by the way, both, whether we like it 70 00:03:23,264 --> 00:03:28,904 Speaker 1: or not, Colock is ticking because I'm worried. There's a 71 00:03:28,984 --> 00:03:32,224 Speaker 1: very distinct and real possibility that I am about to 72 00:03:32,224 --> 00:03:37,344 Speaker 1: fall in love with you. At first looked very romantic. 73 00:03:37,464 --> 00:03:40,424 Speaker 1: So Florence Pugh and Andrew Garfield play this couple who 74 00:03:40,424 --> 00:03:43,504 Speaker 1: are brought together by a surprise encounter. It's a car accident, 75 00:03:43,504 --> 00:03:45,264 Speaker 1: as you can see from the trailer, and then they 76 00:03:45,304 --> 00:03:47,304 Speaker 1: had this beautiful love story where it looks like they 77 00:03:47,304 --> 00:03:49,224 Speaker 1: get together, they fall in love, they have a kid, 78 00:03:49,464 --> 00:03:52,424 Speaker 1: a kid, it's all beautiful, and then some shock news 79 00:03:52,464 --> 00:03:54,944 Speaker 1: about her health, as much as we can tell, changes 80 00:03:54,984 --> 00:03:57,344 Speaker 1: their lives, and all of a sudden, it just becomes 81 00:03:57,944 --> 00:04:00,064 Speaker 1: one of those romantic dramas that feels like it's going 82 00:04:00,104 --> 00:04:02,904 Speaker 1: to completely rip your heart in half. And it is rated. 83 00:04:02,944 --> 00:04:05,104 Speaker 2: Ah, oh no, that's we're sad. 84 00:04:05,744 --> 00:04:07,784 Speaker 1: Yeah, which, well, I mean, no, our reading has to 85 00:04:07,824 --> 00:04:09,704 Speaker 1: be something quite explicit, so it has to be explicit 86 00:04:09,784 --> 00:04:13,384 Speaker 1: violence or sexual references or sexual scenes or something. So 87 00:04:13,584 --> 00:04:15,304 Speaker 1: let's hope for some r rate and sex scenes in 88 00:04:15,344 --> 00:04:16,184 Speaker 1: amongst all the death. 89 00:04:16,344 --> 00:04:18,984 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm really excited for this film. I'm 90 00:04:19,064 --> 00:04:21,464 Speaker 2: not a big fan of sad films, but all this 91 00:04:21,504 --> 00:04:23,384 Speaker 2: one's not gonna It's gonna be sad. You know. More 92 00:04:23,424 --> 00:04:24,784 Speaker 2: tears to come. I'm not sure they're gonna be X 93 00:04:24,824 --> 00:04:26,544 Speaker 2: Men level tears, but I will get the tears. 94 00:04:26,624 --> 00:04:28,384 Speaker 1: You could do that thing where you just stop the movie, 95 00:04:28,504 --> 00:04:30,504 Speaker 1: like to stop it off their love story and don't watch. 96 00:04:30,304 --> 00:04:32,624 Speaker 2: Them, and then they lived happily ever after. 97 00:04:33,384 --> 00:04:35,984 Speaker 1: So this movie is coming out in January of next year. 98 00:04:36,144 --> 00:04:37,944 Speaker 1: We'll probably go to a premiere and watch it and 99 00:04:38,024 --> 00:04:42,984 Speaker 1: let you know, and we'll probably cry. It's a lot 100 00:04:43,024 --> 00:04:45,904 Speaker 1: of pressure every single night. Our job is to make 101 00:04:45,944 --> 00:04:50,344 Speaker 1: it look easy. Since I was little Dallas Cowby Cheladers, that's. 102 00:04:50,224 --> 00:04:55,864 Speaker 2: What I want to do. So in America, Sweetheart, Dallas 103 00:04:55,904 --> 00:04:59,624 Speaker 2: Cowboys Cheerleaders is still the number one show on Netflix 104 00:04:59,744 --> 00:05:02,624 Speaker 2: in Australia. It is crazy how long this show has 105 00:05:02,704 --> 00:05:05,304 Speaker 2: lasted on Netflix. We talked about it and spill. Briefly, 106 00:05:05,504 --> 00:05:08,744 Speaker 2: I want to say a few weeks ago. I watched 107 00:05:08,744 --> 00:05:12,464 Speaker 2: it immediately when it came out, watch the first few episodes, 108 00:05:12,744 --> 00:05:15,584 Speaker 2: and I remember recommending it, going this is the best 109 00:05:15,584 --> 00:05:17,264 Speaker 2: thing ever. And they watched a few more episodes and 110 00:05:17,304 --> 00:05:18,544 Speaker 2: I was like, oh no. 111 00:05:18,904 --> 00:05:22,664 Speaker 1: Yes, you found it wildly problematic, which we will get 112 00:05:22,704 --> 00:05:23,184 Speaker 1: to and I was. 113 00:05:23,184 --> 00:05:24,384 Speaker 2: Like, oh, I can't take it back now, so I 114 00:05:24,384 --> 00:05:25,584 Speaker 2: think we'll just go double down. 115 00:05:25,784 --> 00:05:27,624 Speaker 1: Well, I think there's a few things that have contributed 116 00:05:27,664 --> 00:05:30,264 Speaker 1: to a success. One is that there already was such 117 00:05:30,304 --> 00:05:33,144 Speaker 1: a huge fan base around the Dallas Cowboys cheerlead. There's 118 00:05:33,144 --> 00:05:35,464 Speaker 1: not so much here in Australia, but especially in America, 119 00:05:35,624 --> 00:05:38,504 Speaker 1: like they are this very famous entity and there's been 120 00:05:38,664 --> 00:05:40,984 Speaker 1: TV shows and articles and things about them before, so 121 00:05:41,024 --> 00:05:43,864 Speaker 1: it's building on that level of popularity. And also, once 122 00:05:43,864 --> 00:05:45,784 Speaker 1: something takes off on Netflix in this way, it just 123 00:05:45,784 --> 00:05:48,184 Speaker 1: becomes kind of like a cult discussion and people want 124 00:05:48,224 --> 00:05:51,184 Speaker 1: to get involved. But also there's two things here that 125 00:05:51,304 --> 00:05:53,944 Speaker 1: audiences just love across the board, Like people love a 126 00:05:54,024 --> 00:05:57,344 Speaker 1: sports documentary even if you don't watch sports, you love 127 00:05:57,424 --> 00:05:59,384 Speaker 1: the storytelling. Why so many big movies are based off 128 00:05:59,424 --> 00:06:01,704 Speaker 1: sporting events because it heightens our emotions in such an 129 00:06:01,744 --> 00:06:02,504 Speaker 1: intense way. 130 00:06:02,464 --> 00:06:04,264 Speaker 2: Like the new Brad Pitt movie that's coming out of 131 00:06:04,784 --> 00:06:07,264 Speaker 2: F one from Drive to Survive that has the fine 132 00:06:07,344 --> 00:06:08,064 Speaker 2: drivers in them. 133 00:06:07,984 --> 00:06:10,824 Speaker 1: Because so many people went across whatever sports Drive Survivors 134 00:06:10,824 --> 00:06:13,784 Speaker 1: about car racing, but the enthralled in it because of 135 00:06:13,824 --> 00:06:16,304 Speaker 1: the documentary. But the other thing is that one thing 136 00:06:16,344 --> 00:06:19,024 Speaker 1: that we as audiences love across the board, no matter 137 00:06:19,064 --> 00:06:21,944 Speaker 1: what part of pop cultuit's in is pretty Women in Pain. 138 00:06:22,184 --> 00:06:25,304 Speaker 1: And this documentary It's true, this documentary has a lot 139 00:06:25,344 --> 00:06:25,544 Speaker 1: of that. 140 00:06:25,664 --> 00:06:27,704 Speaker 2: It has so much of that. When we first talked 141 00:06:27,704 --> 00:06:30,664 Speaker 2: about it, we touched largely on I think what the 142 00:06:30,704 --> 00:06:34,824 Speaker 2: world would consider the biggest problem of the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders, 143 00:06:34,864 --> 00:06:38,184 Speaker 2: and it's how much the cheerleaders actually get paid. We 144 00:06:38,264 --> 00:06:40,504 Speaker 2: found out that they don't actually get paid enough to 145 00:06:40,544 --> 00:06:44,504 Speaker 2: fully sustain themselves. It's usually around between fifteen to twenty 146 00:06:44,504 --> 00:06:46,504 Speaker 2: grand per year. So a lot of them have to 147 00:06:46,544 --> 00:06:48,984 Speaker 2: have full time jobs. And when I mean full time jobs, 148 00:06:48,984 --> 00:06:51,944 Speaker 2: a lot of them are actually like in completely different careers. 149 00:06:52,264 --> 00:06:55,624 Speaker 2: One was an orthodontist and one was a like a. 150 00:06:55,544 --> 00:06:58,224 Speaker 1: Pediatr pediatric nurse. That was the most confronting because that's 151 00:06:58,264 --> 00:07:00,104 Speaker 1: Kelsey who's not confronting is the world. I guess kind 152 00:07:00,104 --> 00:07:00,584 Speaker 1: of shocking. 153 00:07:00,904 --> 00:07:03,704 Speaker 2: If she's a lead cheerleader. He's been in there for 154 00:07:03,744 --> 00:07:04,704 Speaker 2: like four years. 155 00:07:04,464 --> 00:07:07,904 Speaker 1: And that's such a really difficult job to do. And 156 00:07:07,944 --> 00:07:10,224 Speaker 1: you actually see her with a client and you kind 157 00:07:10,224 --> 00:07:12,904 Speaker 1: of see like the patients and also the skill set 158 00:07:12,904 --> 00:07:14,464 Speaker 1: it would take to sort of be a care for 159 00:07:14,544 --> 00:07:16,904 Speaker 1: someone in that level, and then to also know that 160 00:07:16,904 --> 00:07:20,264 Speaker 1: she spends most of her time in this grueling cheerleading world, 161 00:07:20,544 --> 00:07:22,504 Speaker 1: I think was a very surprising part of the story. 162 00:07:22,504 --> 00:07:23,904 Speaker 1: But why it works so well. 163 00:07:23,704 --> 00:07:25,864 Speaker 2: And I think that's when the audience has immediately seen 164 00:07:25,864 --> 00:07:28,264 Speaker 2: the divide between I guess the cheerleaders who have to 165 00:07:28,344 --> 00:07:31,104 Speaker 2: have a full time job just to sustain themselves mostus 166 00:07:31,144 --> 00:07:33,904 Speaker 2: the cheerleaders who come from big money background, who have 167 00:07:33,984 --> 00:07:36,344 Speaker 2: like family and friends support so they can actually focus 168 00:07:36,344 --> 00:07:39,904 Speaker 2: on training and cheering full time. And it was really 169 00:07:39,904 --> 00:07:42,784 Speaker 2: interesting because I found out also that the mascot of 170 00:07:42,824 --> 00:07:45,704 Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys gets paid more than the cheerleaders. 171 00:07:45,664 --> 00:07:46,544 Speaker 1: Oh, I would believe it, but. 172 00:07:46,664 --> 00:07:49,944 Speaker 2: Some kind of suit what are they doing? We found 173 00:07:49,984 --> 00:07:52,464 Speaker 2: out that all the money that the cheerleaders make, because 174 00:07:52,504 --> 00:07:54,384 Speaker 2: it's not just cheering that they do. They also have 175 00:07:54,424 --> 00:07:56,424 Speaker 2: to take part in like events, they have to post 176 00:07:56,424 --> 00:07:58,664 Speaker 2: for calendars, they have to take photos of fans, and 177 00:07:58,704 --> 00:08:00,784 Speaker 2: we find out that they're not allowed to say no 178 00:08:00,864 --> 00:08:02,904 Speaker 2: to those things, like it's part of being a Dallas 179 00:08:02,904 --> 00:08:06,304 Speaker 2: Cowboys cheerleader. All that money doesn't go to them. It 180 00:08:06,344 --> 00:08:09,024 Speaker 2: goes to the players who are like multimillionaires. It goes 181 00:08:09,024 --> 00:08:11,504 Speaker 2: to the people behind the scenes who are also millionaires. 182 00:08:11,824 --> 00:08:14,424 Speaker 2: And it's just these girls who have like become this 183 00:08:14,624 --> 00:08:18,824 Speaker 2: full franchise in themselves, are generating so much value and 184 00:08:18,944 --> 00:08:23,464 Speaker 2: money for like the top NFL team in the entire nation. 185 00:08:24,104 --> 00:08:26,744 Speaker 1: Yeah, the money thing for me was more surprising when 186 00:08:26,744 --> 00:08:29,664 Speaker 1: I sort of saw the actual skill set of these 187 00:08:29,664 --> 00:08:32,144 Speaker 1: women in the time and the prestige around it. And 188 00:08:32,184 --> 00:08:34,584 Speaker 1: I don't mean this to sound critical at all, but 189 00:08:35,464 --> 00:08:38,224 Speaker 1: the most confronting moment at the top of this documentary 190 00:08:38,224 --> 00:08:41,864 Speaker 1: for me was not the amount they get paid, because 191 00:08:41,864 --> 00:08:45,024 Speaker 1: I think also any kind of career path that's tied 192 00:08:45,064 --> 00:08:47,744 Speaker 1: to something that you could say like this is my dream, 193 00:08:48,144 --> 00:08:49,984 Speaker 1: so much that is tied to shit money, Like so 194 00:08:49,984 --> 00:08:52,904 Speaker 1: many people who dream of being writers and podcasters. You know, 195 00:08:52,944 --> 00:08:54,624 Speaker 1: some people do that for free, for so many parts 196 00:08:54,664 --> 00:08:57,944 Speaker 1: of their years acting, singing, dancing, Like there's so many 197 00:08:58,064 --> 00:09:00,224 Speaker 1: parts of that of these industries where you work for 198 00:09:00,224 --> 00:09:02,664 Speaker 1: free or you get paid a minuscule amount, and so 199 00:09:02,984 --> 00:09:04,624 Speaker 1: seeing these women do that, I was like, that just 200 00:09:04,664 --> 00:09:06,624 Speaker 1: kind of fits with how we've set this kind of 201 00:09:06,624 --> 00:09:09,944 Speaker 1: world up in society. What I struggled with at first, 202 00:09:09,984 --> 00:09:11,704 Speaker 1: and I was very critical of, and as the show 203 00:09:11,704 --> 00:09:13,584 Speaker 1: went through, I gave myself a big talking to about 204 00:09:13,624 --> 00:09:16,424 Speaker 1: not being so critical watching the show is that I 205 00:09:16,544 --> 00:09:19,784 Speaker 1: thought their skill level of who they are as performers 206 00:09:20,264 --> 00:09:24,304 Speaker 1: didn't match up to the level of auditions, the process 207 00:09:24,344 --> 00:09:26,424 Speaker 1: and who they were only because I say this as 208 00:09:26,424 --> 00:09:28,704 Speaker 1: someone who was raised on the movie Bring It On. 209 00:09:29,264 --> 00:09:31,424 Speaker 1: And in that movie, what you have drilled into and 210 00:09:31,504 --> 00:09:34,584 Speaker 1: why that movie was so groundbreaking is that it positions 211 00:09:34,624 --> 00:09:37,584 Speaker 1: the sport of cheerleading as more than the people who 212 00:09:37,704 --> 00:09:40,344 Speaker 1: cheer on the sidelines. You have that whole part with 213 00:09:40,464 --> 00:09:43,304 Speaker 1: Kirsten duns as tour and Shipman saying games are just 214 00:09:43,304 --> 00:09:46,024 Speaker 1: like practice for us, like we're about competitions, we're athletes 215 00:09:46,064 --> 00:09:48,104 Speaker 1: with gymnasts, we're dancings were a cream of the crop 216 00:09:48,104 --> 00:09:50,464 Speaker 1: with the best of the best. And when you see 217 00:09:50,464 --> 00:09:52,904 Speaker 1: how that plays out in the movie. It does come 218 00:09:52,944 --> 00:09:55,264 Speaker 1: across like that that this is a very elite form 219 00:09:55,704 --> 00:09:58,744 Speaker 1: of athleticism and dance, and like the skills when you 220 00:09:58,744 --> 00:10:00,864 Speaker 1: see them doing, like the flying and the jumps and 221 00:10:00,904 --> 00:10:04,064 Speaker 1: the back flips and the cartwheels, and it's so acrobatic 222 00:10:04,104 --> 00:10:06,424 Speaker 1: and so amazing. And I feel like the show Hellcats, 223 00:10:06,424 --> 00:10:08,704 Speaker 1: which is a very underrated show about cheerleaders in college 224 00:10:08,744 --> 00:10:12,944 Speaker 1: starring Ashley Tisdale, also throw oh my god. But also 225 00:10:12,984 --> 00:10:14,304 Speaker 1: as I was watching, and I was like, that's what 226 00:10:14,384 --> 00:10:17,064 Speaker 1: I thought. Cheerleaders like, like you see them train like 227 00:10:17,104 --> 00:10:19,744 Speaker 1: these really intense athletes and fight for money and fight 228 00:10:19,784 --> 00:10:23,064 Speaker 1: for funding, and then when you see their final performances, like, wow, 229 00:10:23,104 --> 00:10:26,224 Speaker 1: that's amazing. So when I saw the Dallas cheerleaders come 230 00:10:26,264 --> 00:10:28,144 Speaker 1: out and just do what at first looked like a 231 00:10:28,184 --> 00:10:29,864 Speaker 1: bit of a shimmy and a little bit of a kick, 232 00:10:29,904 --> 00:10:32,024 Speaker 1: and I know, they do the kick line at the end, 233 00:10:32,024 --> 00:10:34,424 Speaker 1: which looks very hard, and then they drew the drop split, 234 00:10:34,824 --> 00:10:37,584 Speaker 1: which is incredibly hard and ruins all of their het. 235 00:10:37,624 --> 00:10:40,664 Speaker 1: Watching that hurt my vagina, And afterwards they're all just like, yeah, 236 00:10:40,664 --> 00:10:42,784 Speaker 1: we're all gonna get multiple surgeries, and. 237 00:10:42,704 --> 00:10:44,864 Speaker 2: You're like it's a dundant and they don't get healthcare, 238 00:10:44,864 --> 00:10:46,224 Speaker 2: and they're like, yep, exactly. 239 00:10:46,304 --> 00:10:47,984 Speaker 1: So I'm not saying obviously, as it goes along, I 240 00:10:48,024 --> 00:10:50,104 Speaker 1: see the skill level and the precision and everything goes 241 00:10:50,144 --> 00:10:52,104 Speaker 1: into it. But I just thought from the build up, 242 00:10:52,144 --> 00:10:53,584 Speaker 1: their performance is going to be more. 243 00:10:53,744 --> 00:10:55,824 Speaker 2: I know what you're talking about, and I think this 244 00:10:55,904 --> 00:10:58,864 Speaker 2: is what I learned from the documentary is that after 245 00:10:58,944 --> 00:11:01,744 Speaker 2: high school in the year West, there's two lines of 246 00:11:01,824 --> 00:11:04,464 Speaker 2: cheering you can go in. So obviously the movies that 247 00:11:04,504 --> 00:11:06,944 Speaker 2: we grew up with was like high school cheerleaders where 248 00:11:06,944 --> 00:11:09,584 Speaker 2: they're doing both the game cheerleaders for like the men 249 00:11:09,624 --> 00:11:12,064 Speaker 2: who play sport as well as they would do like 250 00:11:12,144 --> 00:11:16,304 Speaker 2: cheering professionally. But then once they reach adulthood, they go 251 00:11:16,384 --> 00:11:19,624 Speaker 2: into like college cheerleading, which is like where cheering like 252 00:11:19,864 --> 00:11:22,584 Speaker 2: this cheering is like the main focus and they compete 253 00:11:22,624 --> 00:11:25,184 Speaker 2: as like a team of cheerleaders. And then or they 254 00:11:25,184 --> 00:11:27,904 Speaker 2: can go into like cheering for games and they're not 255 00:11:27,904 --> 00:11:31,384 Speaker 2: really cheerleaders. They're more like dancers, like professional dancers. So 256 00:11:31,544 --> 00:11:35,024 Speaker 2: in Dallas Cowboys, they also have women audition who have 257 00:11:35,104 --> 00:11:39,224 Speaker 2: come from other sporting cheers. So Anechas come from basketball cheering. 258 00:11:39,584 --> 00:11:42,384 Speaker 2: Some of them have come from baseball cheering, so it's different. 259 00:11:42,424 --> 00:11:45,144 Speaker 2: It's like you split into two areas. And I think 260 00:11:45,224 --> 00:11:47,904 Speaker 2: that's what is kind of disappointing as a viewer when 261 00:11:47,944 --> 00:11:51,544 Speaker 2: you've come from thinking American cheers like this one big, 262 00:11:51,584 --> 00:11:53,984 Speaker 2: massive thing, but it's actually like split up into multiple 263 00:11:54,024 --> 00:11:54,464 Speaker 2: mini things. 264 00:11:54,504 --> 00:11:57,544 Speaker 1: Okay, that sounds like very important context. Well, coming up next, 265 00:11:57,584 --> 00:11:59,264 Speaker 1: we have to get into the rules these women are 266 00:11:59,264 --> 00:12:01,264 Speaker 1: forced to follow because they are very intense, and then 267 00:12:01,344 --> 00:12:05,144 Speaker 1: some more unpopular opinions about the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders documentary. 268 00:12:05,224 --> 00:12:06,424 Speaker 1: Not the women, Not the women. 269 00:12:08,544 --> 00:12:10,904 Speaker 2: Some of the rules that these women have to follow 270 00:12:11,384 --> 00:12:14,064 Speaker 2: are insane. I'm going to list out the most hectic 271 00:12:14,064 --> 00:12:16,144 Speaker 2: ones that I saw. So they're not allowed to date 272 00:12:16,184 --> 00:12:19,184 Speaker 2: the players, which I feel like is annoying to my 273 00:12:19,304 --> 00:12:21,504 Speaker 2: teenage romantic self because you always want to see head 274 00:12:21,584 --> 00:12:23,584 Speaker 2: cheerleader with the quarterback. 275 00:12:24,144 --> 00:12:26,584 Speaker 1: That's the only position we know. I think there's also 276 00:12:26,624 --> 00:12:28,944 Speaker 1: a running forward anyway, I don't know. 277 00:12:30,184 --> 00:12:35,144 Speaker 2: Sorry. They have to maintain their weight, and the reason 278 00:12:35,184 --> 00:12:37,584 Speaker 2: behind maintaining the weight is that after they get fitted 279 00:12:37,584 --> 00:12:40,704 Speaker 2: for their Dallas Cowboys uniform, they were saying that the 280 00:12:40,784 --> 00:12:43,344 Speaker 2: uniforms don't get altered after that, so if you put 281 00:12:43,344 --> 00:12:46,104 Speaker 2: on weight or lose weight, you have to deal with it. 282 00:12:46,184 --> 00:12:48,624 Speaker 2: Your uniforms will not get altered to fit you, which 283 00:12:48,624 --> 00:12:51,424 Speaker 2: I thought was hectic. They're not allowed to have tattoos. 284 00:12:51,704 --> 00:12:53,864 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, I guess. 285 00:12:53,624 --> 00:12:55,104 Speaker 1: Yeah, or if they do, they have to be very 286 00:12:55,144 --> 00:12:57,744 Speaker 1: small and easily hidden with makeup. Yeah, but I think 287 00:12:57,744 --> 00:12:59,664 Speaker 1: they'd probably just scrape that tattoo right if your skin 288 00:12:59,704 --> 00:12:59,984 Speaker 1: if they. 289 00:12:59,904 --> 00:13:02,944 Speaker 2: Saw after watching the entire process of how they get chosen, 290 00:13:02,984 --> 00:13:04,504 Speaker 2: I'm sure if they saw a single tattoo, they'd be 291 00:13:04,544 --> 00:13:06,664 Speaker 2: like straight away. Now the num allowed to do spon 292 00:13:06,784 --> 00:13:11,344 Speaker 2: con So these women have hundreds and thousand, sometimes millions 293 00:13:11,384 --> 00:13:15,464 Speaker 2: of Instagram followers. They're not allowed to monetize their following. 294 00:13:15,544 --> 00:13:19,184 Speaker 2: So these are highly influential women. But because they're Dallas 295 00:13:19,224 --> 00:13:21,744 Speaker 2: Cowboy cheerleaders, they have to only work for the brand, 296 00:13:21,824 --> 00:13:24,104 Speaker 2: so they're actually not allowed to do any Instagram posts 297 00:13:24,104 --> 00:13:25,984 Speaker 2: and they could be making so much money they wouldn't 298 00:13:26,024 --> 00:13:28,144 Speaker 2: need their full time jobs if they could make money 299 00:13:28,144 --> 00:13:30,944 Speaker 2: off Instagram. We touch on this before. They don't have 300 00:13:30,984 --> 00:13:32,784 Speaker 2: time off and always have to be on call, even 301 00:13:32,824 --> 00:13:35,504 Speaker 2: though some of them are like full doctors. I'm like, sorry, 302 00:13:35,824 --> 00:13:36,584 Speaker 2: gotta go cheer. 303 00:13:36,704 --> 00:13:38,744 Speaker 1: Autho. Dontges is like there's a kid with his mouth open, 304 00:13:38,784 --> 00:13:40,504 Speaker 1: and I'm like desperate need of surgery, and she's like, 305 00:13:40,544 --> 00:13:43,704 Speaker 1: gotta go cheer, so to work my home kick. Bye. 306 00:13:43,984 --> 00:13:46,824 Speaker 2: They're not allowed to sit during the games. So these 307 00:13:46,944 --> 00:13:48,944 Speaker 2: NFL games last I mean, we watched the Super. 308 00:13:48,744 --> 00:13:51,704 Speaker 1: Bowl, we watched the halftime show. Let's not get excited. 309 00:13:51,744 --> 00:13:53,264 Speaker 2: I watched the whole one, thes Travis Kelcey. When I 310 00:13:53,304 --> 00:13:55,984 Speaker 2: watch the whole one, they have to stand for three 311 00:13:56,064 --> 00:13:57,264 Speaker 2: hours and twelve minutes. 312 00:13:57,304 --> 00:14:01,344 Speaker 1: They're not to stand, but also they're moving and dancing. 313 00:14:00,624 --> 00:14:02,624 Speaker 2: Standing up straight. They're also not allowed to touch up 314 00:14:02,664 --> 00:14:04,944 Speaker 2: any hair and makeup because they have to be presentable 315 00:14:04,984 --> 00:14:08,704 Speaker 2: that whole time. They also have a strict regimen. They 316 00:14:08,744 --> 00:14:12,024 Speaker 2: have to take vitamins, eat a healthy breakfast, drink eight 317 00:14:12,024 --> 00:14:15,824 Speaker 2: glasses of water every day, and stop eating after six pm. 318 00:14:16,464 --> 00:14:17,984 Speaker 2: Sound like they're about to go into surgery. 319 00:14:18,184 --> 00:14:21,064 Speaker 1: Yeah. After the money thing, the biggest takeaway that people 320 00:14:21,064 --> 00:14:23,544 Speaker 1: were quite upset about was how they talked about this 321 00:14:23,584 --> 00:14:25,904 Speaker 1: woman and saying like, well, she's not attractive. She needs 322 00:14:25,904 --> 00:14:28,064 Speaker 1: to fix her face, her teeth, her hair, do this 323 00:14:28,104 --> 00:14:30,624 Speaker 1: with her nails, do this and that, and people found 324 00:14:30,624 --> 00:14:32,544 Speaker 1: that confronting, and I was like, I'm sure this is 325 00:14:32,584 --> 00:14:36,184 Speaker 1: a very altered, watered down version of what these people 326 00:14:36,304 --> 00:14:40,184 Speaker 1: actually say. And again, that is how the entertainment industry works. 327 00:14:40,184 --> 00:14:43,424 Speaker 1: I just think maybe some people don't see that side 328 00:14:43,464 --> 00:14:45,504 Speaker 1: of it. It's sometimes how media works, It's how the 329 00:14:45,584 --> 00:14:48,824 Speaker 1: entertainment industry definitely works. Any kind of performance dance, you 330 00:14:48,864 --> 00:14:50,584 Speaker 1: should see what they say about people sort of going 331 00:14:50,624 --> 00:14:52,624 Speaker 1: into ballet or any of those other kind of disciplines. 332 00:14:52,904 --> 00:14:55,384 Speaker 1: So I think what we saw felt really confronting, but 333 00:14:55,664 --> 00:14:57,864 Speaker 1: I felt like they were always buying their tongues and 334 00:14:57,904 --> 00:14:59,984 Speaker 1: never really saying any of the bad stuff on camera. 335 00:15:00,104 --> 00:15:01,984 Speaker 1: So what we saw was the sanitized version. 336 00:15:02,184 --> 00:15:06,384 Speaker 2: Because the documentary itself was directed by Greg Whitley, who 337 00:15:06,464 --> 00:15:09,264 Speaker 2: isn't actually part of the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders. He's an 338 00:15:09,344 --> 00:15:13,384 Speaker 2: external editorial so he was actually granted editorial control, which 339 00:15:13,424 --> 00:15:15,784 Speaker 2: is in my opinion, the best types of documentaries because 340 00:15:15,784 --> 00:15:17,904 Speaker 2: it's not them like using it as a form of 341 00:15:17,984 --> 00:15:19,064 Speaker 2: promoting their business. 342 00:15:19,264 --> 00:15:22,344 Speaker 1: He did the documentary Cheerwrise and other Netflix documentary with 343 00:15:22,384 --> 00:15:23,344 Speaker 1: the cheerleaders, and. 344 00:15:23,304 --> 00:15:25,424 Speaker 2: They'd ask him to come on gave him editorial control, 345 00:15:25,464 --> 00:15:28,024 Speaker 2: which never happens. So that's why I thought it was 346 00:15:28,064 --> 00:15:30,504 Speaker 2: like so telling whenever. Like you said, they were like 347 00:15:30,544 --> 00:15:32,824 Speaker 2: little talks about their women's bodies and stuff. I'm like, 348 00:15:32,904 --> 00:15:35,824 Speaker 2: that would have been way worse if the cameras were off. 349 00:15:36,464 --> 00:15:40,184 Speaker 2: Now we come to my unpopular opinion. I wrote a 350 00:15:40,184 --> 00:15:42,584 Speaker 2: piece on Amamea and I talked about not being able 351 00:15:42,624 --> 00:15:46,624 Speaker 2: to watch Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders after the third episode, and 352 00:15:46,664 --> 00:15:50,344 Speaker 2: that was because of one of the cheerleaders whose name 353 00:15:50,384 --> 00:15:54,944 Speaker 2: was Aniesha. She is a woman with Indian heritage like myself. 354 00:15:54,984 --> 00:15:57,504 Speaker 2: And in the beginning when they call all these women, 355 00:15:57,784 --> 00:15:59,584 Speaker 2: I think there's about seventy of them to do like 356 00:15:59,624 --> 00:16:03,864 Speaker 2: solo performances for a panel of judges. These judges, one 357 00:16:03,864 --> 00:16:06,024 Speaker 2: of them's a meteorologists, one of them, one of them 358 00:16:06,064 --> 00:16:09,384 Speaker 2: makes shoes, one of them does hair. No one checked qualifications, 359 00:16:09,424 --> 00:16:13,624 Speaker 2: no qualifications, but they're judging these women hard. Anisia's solo was, 360 00:16:13,704 --> 00:16:16,544 Speaker 2: in my opinion, the most entertaining one. She did like 361 00:16:16,584 --> 00:16:20,824 Speaker 2: a kind of modernized Bollywood dance to show her Indian roots. 362 00:16:21,104 --> 00:16:22,984 Speaker 2: It was done really beautifully and she made it to 363 00:16:23,064 --> 00:16:25,944 Speaker 2: the next round. When they went to boot camp. That's 364 00:16:25,984 --> 00:16:28,104 Speaker 2: when they start kind of being a bit more harsh 365 00:16:28,144 --> 00:16:31,024 Speaker 2: with the cheerleaders, especially the rookies who are like coming 366 00:16:31,104 --> 00:16:33,624 Speaker 2: into this for the first time. We find out that 367 00:16:33,704 --> 00:16:36,904 Speaker 2: they cut Kaylin and Darian first, who are both women 368 00:16:36,944 --> 00:16:40,664 Speaker 2: of color, and it was so sad, like, I do 369 00:16:40,784 --> 00:16:42,144 Speaker 2: not care about you. I didn't want to say that 370 00:16:42,184 --> 00:16:43,704 Speaker 2: right now. I did not care about you, Liz. I 371 00:16:43,704 --> 00:16:47,024 Speaker 2: feel like when you find a person of your culture 372 00:16:47,704 --> 00:16:50,664 Speaker 2: who like kind of represents you in a way in 373 00:16:50,704 --> 00:16:53,664 Speaker 2: an environment that you never thought you'd ever be represented in, 374 00:16:54,184 --> 00:16:58,424 Speaker 2: you like instinctively attach yourself to that person, and all 375 00:16:58,464 --> 00:17:00,864 Speaker 2: you can think about is wanting them to win, rooting 376 00:17:00,904 --> 00:17:02,944 Speaker 2: for them. You're like everything they do, even if they're 377 00:17:02,944 --> 00:17:04,624 Speaker 2: a bad person, You're like, I just want you to win. 378 00:17:04,784 --> 00:17:07,064 Speaker 2: I just want you to represent us. So when Kaylen 379 00:17:07,104 --> 00:17:09,264 Speaker 2: and Darren got kicked off, they were talking to Anisa 380 00:17:09,584 --> 00:17:11,344 Speaker 2: and Anichea like I have to do this with the 381 00:17:11,344 --> 00:17:15,144 Speaker 2: brown girls, and like my heart dropped. It was so sad. 382 00:17:15,504 --> 00:17:18,384 Speaker 2: And if you know anything about cinema, you know that's 383 00:17:18,384 --> 00:17:21,504 Speaker 2: some sort of foreshadowing because in the next episode she 384 00:17:21,904 --> 00:17:24,504 Speaker 2: kind of injured her ankle, and then eventually they said 385 00:17:24,544 --> 00:17:26,584 Speaker 2: they didn't think she had what it takes to be 386 00:17:26,864 --> 00:17:30,504 Speaker 2: a cheerleader. That season, it was so depressing and I 387 00:17:30,784 --> 00:17:33,704 Speaker 2: was so sad. But then something that made me angry 388 00:17:33,944 --> 00:17:35,944 Speaker 2: was that she was also kicked off at the same 389 00:17:35,984 --> 00:17:39,024 Speaker 2: time as two other women were kicked off, and those 390 00:17:39,024 --> 00:17:41,424 Speaker 2: two women were white women. And in the locker room 391 00:17:41,464 --> 00:17:44,144 Speaker 2: you kind of see those two women embrace each other 392 00:17:44,744 --> 00:17:47,464 Speaker 2: and tell each other that like, we did it. I'm 393 00:17:47,504 --> 00:17:49,984 Speaker 2: so proud of us, Like we've done all we could. 394 00:17:50,064 --> 00:17:52,784 Speaker 2: And and he's just kind of standing in the background by herself, 395 00:17:52,824 --> 00:17:55,904 Speaker 2: Like you don't see any other woman comforting her. You 396 00:17:55,944 --> 00:17:58,864 Speaker 2: see her always by herself. There is one woman who's 397 00:17:58,904 --> 00:18:02,344 Speaker 2: like think entire job is to like walk the girls out, yeah, 398 00:18:02,424 --> 00:18:04,264 Speaker 2: and like hold her hand just to make sure they're 399 00:18:04,264 --> 00:18:06,024 Speaker 2: all to make And she was the only one, I 400 00:18:06,064 --> 00:18:07,864 Speaker 2: think who talked to a niche shir because that's her 401 00:18:07,944 --> 00:18:10,664 Speaker 2: one job. But it just made me realize is that 402 00:18:10,744 --> 00:18:14,344 Speaker 2: when these certain industries, like cheerleading, especially in a place 403 00:18:14,384 --> 00:18:18,704 Speaker 2: like Dallas that is like so historically whitewashed, that no 404 00:18:18,704 --> 00:18:21,384 Speaker 2: matter how much they try to have a diversity quota, 405 00:18:21,464 --> 00:18:25,064 Speaker 2: if the culture within doesn't actually change, it will never happen. 406 00:18:25,344 --> 00:18:27,184 Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. And that's why I think this 407 00:18:27,224 --> 00:18:29,584 Speaker 1: show has touched a nerve with so many people. It's like, yes, 408 00:18:29,624 --> 00:18:31,544 Speaker 1: we were saying before, people love the drama of the 409 00:18:31,784 --> 00:18:34,224 Speaker 1: and the glamour of these beautiful women going through this, 410 00:18:34,424 --> 00:18:36,904 Speaker 1: but it's highlighting all of these things in terms of 411 00:18:36,944 --> 00:18:40,144 Speaker 1: like the racial undertone, the discrimination, the body image issue 412 00:18:40,144 --> 00:18:43,104 Speaker 1: and discrimination on that level, even just the wealth disparity 413 00:18:43,104 --> 00:18:45,424 Speaker 1: around which of these women can afford to be supported 414 00:18:45,464 --> 00:18:47,904 Speaker 1: by their families and just focus on cheerleading and which 415 00:18:47,944 --> 00:18:50,264 Speaker 1: ones have to work a ten hour job before coming there. 416 00:18:50,264 --> 00:18:52,504 Speaker 1: Like it's highlighting all of these things that are just 417 00:18:52,544 --> 00:18:55,824 Speaker 1: parts of society but are in that just highlighted through 418 00:18:55,904 --> 00:18:58,824 Speaker 1: cheerleading because it really just makes all these problems rise 419 00:18:58,864 --> 00:19:00,544 Speaker 1: to the top. And as you're watching all that, and 420 00:19:00,544 --> 00:19:01,824 Speaker 1: I should say, like, as much as I've been critical 421 00:19:01,864 --> 00:19:04,304 Speaker 1: of this documentary, I thought it was really well done. Yeah, 422 00:19:04,424 --> 00:19:07,384 Speaker 1: in terms of balancing the emotion of these women, like 423 00:19:07,384 --> 00:19:08,984 Speaker 1: when they were getting cut from the team, like you 424 00:19:09,064 --> 00:19:11,624 Speaker 1: really feel for them in that moment, and then you 425 00:19:11,704 --> 00:19:13,384 Speaker 1: kind of really do get swept along, which is what 426 00:19:13,384 --> 00:19:16,424 Speaker 1: a good sports documentary does with their story, and by 427 00:19:16,424 --> 00:19:18,624 Speaker 1: the end, you really want them to succeed. I think 428 00:19:18,624 --> 00:19:20,504 Speaker 1: it did a really good job of answering that question 429 00:19:20,584 --> 00:19:23,104 Speaker 1: of why the hell would anyone put themselves through this, 430 00:19:23,584 --> 00:19:26,984 Speaker 1: and that is when you see how they're treated in 431 00:19:27,024 --> 00:19:29,384 Speaker 1: the public, and like, to me, the parts that didn't 432 00:19:29,384 --> 00:19:31,784 Speaker 1: take place in the stadium were the most interesting. When 433 00:19:31,824 --> 00:19:33,984 Speaker 1: you see them going too appearances and how they act 434 00:19:34,024 --> 00:19:35,824 Speaker 1: and how they have to like hold the foot football 435 00:19:35,824 --> 00:19:38,024 Speaker 1: so it get sexual assaulted. That's a different thing. And 436 00:19:38,064 --> 00:19:40,104 Speaker 1: then as they were walking through these crowds, I was like, 437 00:19:40,184 --> 00:19:43,904 Speaker 1: oh my god. The Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders are the American 438 00:19:43,944 --> 00:19:46,464 Speaker 1: equivalent in that part of the world of the royal family. 439 00:19:46,744 --> 00:19:49,344 Speaker 1: Like they're trotted out at events. Their whole job is 440 00:19:49,384 --> 00:19:51,224 Speaker 1: to make sure that everyone who comes near them has 441 00:19:51,264 --> 00:19:54,224 Speaker 1: a very good experience. They're always smiling, they're always being 442 00:19:54,224 --> 00:19:56,744 Speaker 1: of service. There's protocols for them to follow, there's a 443 00:19:56,744 --> 00:19:59,504 Speaker 1: certain amount of engagements that they have to do to 444 00:19:59,584 --> 00:20:03,384 Speaker 1: qualify for their job, and they're there basically for people 445 00:20:03,424 --> 00:20:05,784 Speaker 1: to look at an admire and get a glimpse into 446 00:20:05,824 --> 00:20:07,944 Speaker 1: a world that they otherwise wouldn't be a part of. 447 00:20:08,304 --> 00:20:11,544 Speaker 1: But they're basically the royal family. Watching that, I was like, 448 00:20:11,584 --> 00:20:13,424 Speaker 1: this is why these women put their bodies through hell 449 00:20:13,544 --> 00:20:16,744 Speaker 1: and go through surgeries and don't have relationships in some cases, 450 00:20:16,744 --> 00:20:19,424 Speaker 1: and lose all their money and just like put themselves 451 00:20:19,464 --> 00:20:22,664 Speaker 1: through hell to have a glimpse into this like side 452 00:20:22,664 --> 00:20:24,424 Speaker 1: of the world, this glamorous side of the world. 453 00:20:24,624 --> 00:20:28,024 Speaker 2: And it is a glimpse because like the lifespan of 454 00:20:28,064 --> 00:20:31,984 Speaker 2: a cheerleader is five years before they actually start getting 455 00:20:32,144 --> 00:20:35,464 Speaker 2: really dangerously injured and have to take care of their injuries. 456 00:20:35,824 --> 00:20:38,024 Speaker 2: We see one of the rookies her sister used to 457 00:20:38,024 --> 00:20:41,424 Speaker 2: be an ex cheerleader, and she's just like she has 458 00:20:41,464 --> 00:20:43,904 Speaker 2: like hip surgery and hoot surgery and she breaks her 459 00:20:43,944 --> 00:20:44,464 Speaker 2: knees and. 460 00:20:45,384 --> 00:20:47,224 Speaker 1: Caroline right, every time the camera cuts to her, She's 461 00:20:47,264 --> 00:20:48,184 Speaker 1: got a different. 462 00:20:47,864 --> 00:20:49,904 Speaker 2: Cast on a different limb. I'm like, what, God, I 463 00:20:49,984 --> 00:20:50,264 Speaker 2: don't know. 464 00:20:50,344 --> 00:20:52,104 Speaker 1: What to do with myself now. I don't really know 465 00:20:52,144 --> 00:20:53,344 Speaker 1: what to do. She's like, I'm gonna go do a 466 00:20:53,344 --> 00:20:57,424 Speaker 1: turkey run just to feel something. I'm like, girl, someone's so. 467 00:20:57,384 --> 00:20:59,984 Speaker 2: Scary, especially the women who actually don't have full time 468 00:21:00,024 --> 00:21:02,144 Speaker 2: jobs doing this, because after five years, it's like they 469 00:21:02,184 --> 00:21:04,744 Speaker 2: have to then start their career, then start what they 470 00:21:04,744 --> 00:21:05,904 Speaker 2: want to do in their life. 471 00:21:05,944 --> 00:21:08,224 Speaker 1: A few notes that we have, but overall, America's sweethearts, 472 00:21:08,264 --> 00:21:10,784 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders, I think, what would you for a 473 00:21:10,784 --> 00:21:11,944 Speaker 1: wonderful piece of cinema. 474 00:21:12,024 --> 00:21:14,144 Speaker 2: The documentary was amazing, and I think it did a 475 00:21:14,184 --> 00:21:18,104 Speaker 2: brilliant look, like you said, into how messed up these 476 00:21:18,184 --> 00:21:21,024 Speaker 2: kind of systems are for cheerleaders on the other side 477 00:21:21,024 --> 00:21:22,704 Speaker 2: of the world. Like the fact that we're so interested 478 00:21:22,704 --> 00:21:29,384 Speaker 2: that this is crazy. It's a weekend watch. 479 00:21:30,504 --> 00:21:32,624 Speaker 1: I mean, very excited to recommend this since we went 480 00:21:32,624 --> 00:21:36,104 Speaker 1: to the premiere this week and is the new movie Twisters, 481 00:21:36,304 --> 00:21:38,744 Speaker 1: which is a standalone sequel but not a direct sequel 482 00:21:38,784 --> 00:21:41,944 Speaker 1: to the hit nineteen ninety six film Twister, which I 483 00:21:41,984 --> 00:21:44,224 Speaker 1: rewatched the other day. And it's on every platform. Guys, 484 00:21:44,224 --> 00:21:46,184 Speaker 1: if you want to go, It's on Paramount Plass, It's 485 00:21:46,224 --> 00:21:48,904 Speaker 1: on Binge, it's on Amazon Prime. It really holds up 486 00:21:48,944 --> 00:21:49,864 Speaker 1: this amazing movie. 487 00:21:50,624 --> 00:21:54,344 Speaker 2: Tyler Rawans cause himself Tornado Wrangler. 488 00:21:54,624 --> 00:22:09,544 Speaker 1: If you feel it, I said, if you feel oh, 489 00:22:09,584 --> 00:22:11,864 Speaker 1: it's just prob. She's poorgeous. 490 00:22:13,664 --> 00:22:16,864 Speaker 2: You thought you'd get destroyed a tornado. We never had 491 00:22:16,864 --> 00:22:23,064 Speaker 2: a chance. One the original movie is much scarier than 492 00:22:23,064 --> 00:22:23,384 Speaker 2: this one. 493 00:22:23,504 --> 00:22:25,704 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, to an extent. But the shocking thing is 494 00:22:25,904 --> 00:22:29,344 Speaker 1: that Twisters, this new movie that no one had really 495 00:22:29,464 --> 00:22:32,984 Speaker 1: high hopes for, is actually really great, brilliant in terms 496 00:22:33,024 --> 00:22:36,824 Speaker 1: of it feels like an old fashioned action epic that's 497 00:22:36,864 --> 00:22:40,504 Speaker 1: a bit schmaltzy, a bit silly, but also just really 498 00:22:40,544 --> 00:22:42,984 Speaker 1: pulls you into the story. And the action is amazing. 499 00:22:43,144 --> 00:22:46,224 Speaker 1: The graphics are insane, yeah, exactly. And it starts off 500 00:22:46,264 --> 00:22:48,584 Speaker 1: on a bit of an intense bleak note. But anyway, 501 00:22:48,624 --> 00:22:51,624 Speaker 1: it starts Daisy Edgar Jones, Glenn Powell and Anthony Ramis. 502 00:22:51,704 --> 00:22:54,304 Speaker 1: So Daisy Edgar Jones plays I want to say, a scientist, 503 00:22:54,984 --> 00:22:56,504 Speaker 1: just a broad broad. 504 00:22:56,304 --> 00:22:58,624 Speaker 2: Terms clear what type of scientist. 505 00:22:58,344 --> 00:23:00,784 Speaker 1: Called Kate who has a pretty horrific set of losses 506 00:23:00,824 --> 00:23:03,184 Speaker 1: due to a twister, walks away from the world and 507 00:23:03,224 --> 00:23:05,664 Speaker 1: then gets pulled back in by her friend Anthony Ramis 508 00:23:05,704 --> 00:23:08,624 Speaker 1: to like chase these new Twisters and you know, help 509 00:23:08,664 --> 00:23:10,744 Speaker 1: out with this technology that might give people more warning, 510 00:23:10,944 --> 00:23:13,544 Speaker 1: which is very similar to the original. And then Glen 511 00:23:13,584 --> 00:23:16,544 Speaker 1: Powell shows up and he is a Tornado wrangler. 512 00:23:16,704 --> 00:23:18,424 Speaker 2: Glen Powell plays Glen Powell. 513 00:23:18,664 --> 00:23:21,904 Speaker 1: Yeah, but in the very best way. This is Pete 514 00:23:21,904 --> 00:23:25,104 Speaker 1: Glen Powell. Like I loved Glenn Powell in Top Gun Maverie. 515 00:23:25,144 --> 00:23:26,744 Speaker 2: It's like his Top Gun character. But if he was 516 00:23:26,744 --> 00:23:27,624 Speaker 2: a good yeah. 517 00:23:27,384 --> 00:23:29,824 Speaker 1: I tolerated him and anyone but you. But this is 518 00:23:29,864 --> 00:23:31,624 Speaker 1: ten out of ten peak and if to do more 519 00:23:31,624 --> 00:23:34,064 Speaker 1: action movie, so yeah, he does. I just thought their 520 00:23:34,144 --> 00:23:36,424 Speaker 1: chemistry together was so great, and so they're obvious on 521 00:23:36,424 --> 00:23:39,384 Speaker 1: opposite sides, like she's trying to get research and help 522 00:23:39,384 --> 00:23:41,584 Speaker 1: out with science and he's trying to get YouTube hits, 523 00:23:41,584 --> 00:23:43,944 Speaker 1: and he doesn't respect him and his team of like. 524 00:23:44,024 --> 00:23:44,944 Speaker 2: He takes bigger risks. 525 00:23:44,984 --> 00:23:47,184 Speaker 1: He takes bigger risks. But then they sort of come 526 00:23:47,264 --> 00:23:49,624 Speaker 1: together on a ground and I loved it. 527 00:23:49,864 --> 00:23:51,864 Speaker 2: It was so good. It was a perfect kind of 528 00:23:51,944 --> 00:23:53,424 Speaker 2: like Enemies to Lovers. 529 00:23:53,704 --> 00:23:57,184 Speaker 1: Yes, which is the best trope of all. You can't 530 00:23:57,184 --> 00:23:58,984 Speaker 1: be beat. I don't want to spoil the ending, but 531 00:23:59,064 --> 00:24:01,424 Speaker 1: once you watch this movie, it's at the cinemas. It 532 00:24:01,424 --> 00:24:04,424 Speaker 1: came out yesterday, so it's out now. If you are 533 00:24:04,464 --> 00:24:06,784 Speaker 1: also a bit angry about the end and thought this 534 00:24:06,824 --> 00:24:08,824 Speaker 1: movie could have gone on for at least another. 535 00:24:08,624 --> 00:24:10,904 Speaker 2: Hour, Oh what I talk I thought you were talking 536 00:24:10,904 --> 00:24:12,784 Speaker 2: about something else. No, I thought you're talking about how 537 00:24:12,824 --> 00:24:14,264 Speaker 2: there wasn't any flying cows. 538 00:24:14,424 --> 00:24:15,464 Speaker 1: There was no flying cows. 539 00:24:15,504 --> 00:24:17,344 Speaker 2: That was your not that was my note. If I 540 00:24:17,344 --> 00:24:19,384 Speaker 2: had to give a note to the directors. More flying cows. 541 00:24:19,504 --> 00:24:21,344 Speaker 2: All the cows. You see cows, but they grounded. 542 00:24:21,464 --> 00:24:23,864 Speaker 1: Yeah, they know, take flight hopefully for the sequel. 543 00:24:24,424 --> 00:24:26,424 Speaker 2: There is a new TV show out on Apple TV. 544 00:24:26,544 --> 00:24:29,104 Speaker 2: It's called Sonny. There's only two episodes so far, and 545 00:24:29,344 --> 00:24:31,784 Speaker 2: now I think they're releasing each episode once a week. 546 00:24:32,704 --> 00:24:36,424 Speaker 1: So why is it? Fun? Food culture? 547 00:24:37,664 --> 00:24:39,344 Speaker 2: That sounds perfect? 548 00:24:44,024 --> 00:24:47,184 Speaker 1: Missus Sakamoto. I'm afraid we have bad news. 549 00:24:47,944 --> 00:24:50,464 Speaker 2: My family was in a plane crash. 550 00:24:50,664 --> 00:24:56,464 Speaker 1: Things have been weird. 551 00:24:56,664 --> 00:25:00,944 Speaker 2: Can I help you? I have a gift. How did 552 00:25:00,984 --> 00:25:05,184 Speaker 2: they watch? Say Susie son I'm sunny. Bring it in, Okay, 553 00:25:05,824 --> 00:25:09,144 Speaker 2: Roberts can be of great comfort. I don't want a robot. 554 00:25:09,544 --> 00:25:11,864 Speaker 2: It stars a Dsha Jones, who if you don't know, 555 00:25:11,944 --> 00:25:15,144 Speaker 2: she plays Anne Perkins and parks and razing so good. 556 00:25:15,184 --> 00:25:17,944 Speaker 2: She also plays Karen in the office, just like one 557 00:25:17,944 --> 00:25:21,744 Speaker 2: of my favorite actresses of all time. So Ridisha plays Susie. 558 00:25:21,784 --> 00:25:24,064 Speaker 2: It starts off a big grim. She loses her husband 559 00:25:24,104 --> 00:25:27,384 Speaker 2: and son in a plane crash, and she lives in Japan, 560 00:25:27,504 --> 00:25:30,104 Speaker 2: so the scenes are beautiful, especially in the city scenes. 561 00:25:30,584 --> 00:25:33,904 Speaker 2: She then is gifted from her husband's company a home 562 00:25:34,104 --> 00:25:37,304 Speaker 2: robot named Sunny, and she was really confused because she's like, 563 00:25:37,344 --> 00:25:40,544 Speaker 2: my husband works in refrigeration, why is he making robots? 564 00:25:40,784 --> 00:25:42,504 Speaker 2: And then his boss is like, I can't tell you. 565 00:25:42,584 --> 00:25:45,104 Speaker 2: He didn't tell you. That's so weird. So I think 566 00:25:45,144 --> 00:25:48,104 Speaker 2: from what I've gathered right now, Sonny and Susie, who's 567 00:25:48,144 --> 00:25:51,344 Speaker 2: Rdisha Jones' character, goes on a mission to uncover all 568 00:25:51,384 --> 00:25:54,104 Speaker 2: the dark secrets and the secret life of a husband 569 00:25:54,184 --> 00:25:57,184 Speaker 2: as this big robot maker and the robots. You know what, 570 00:25:57,304 --> 00:25:58,824 Speaker 2: I think there's going to be some killer robots. 571 00:25:58,864 --> 00:26:01,024 Speaker 1: Well, I think we can all say that creating robots 572 00:26:01,064 --> 00:26:01,504 Speaker 1: never ends. 573 00:26:01,504 --> 00:26:03,864 Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for listening to the spill today. 574 00:26:03,904 --> 00:26:07,144 Speaker 2: If you want more content on the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders, 575 00:26:07,184 --> 00:26:08,984 Speaker 2: I think that's basically what the mum and ma your 576 00:26:09,024 --> 00:26:12,344 Speaker 2: website is right now. We've written so many stories. We 577 00:26:12,384 --> 00:26:14,064 Speaker 2: are going to put a link in the show notes 578 00:26:14,104 --> 00:26:16,304 Speaker 2: of all of our best stories. You can find out 579 00:26:16,344 --> 00:26:18,544 Speaker 2: what the cheerleaders are doing now you can find out 580 00:26:18,824 --> 00:26:21,024 Speaker 2: all the other rules that they have to abide by. 581 00:26:21,264 --> 00:26:23,624 Speaker 2: Also put a link to my piece in there, and 582 00:26:23,824 --> 00:26:26,504 Speaker 2: if you want more from us, please dm us on Instagram. 583 00:26:26,544 --> 00:26:28,584 Speaker 2: You can find us at The Spill Podcast. We will 584 00:26:28,584 --> 00:26:30,264 Speaker 2: see you back here in your podcast feed at three 585 00:26:30,344 --> 00:26:33,424 Speaker 2: pm on Monday. Bye bye, Happy weekends.