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Speaker 3: before we return to regular programming on January thirteen.

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Speaker 4: But today you're going to hear all about Timothy shallow

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Speaker 4: May on Mamma MIA's comedy podcast Canceled. You're probably thinking,

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Speaker 4: how dare they cancel Timothy's shallow May? Well, don't worry,

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Speaker 4: they don't actually cancel celebrities for real. It's all in

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Speaker 4: good fun with lots of laughs. Enjoy this episode. We

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Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to Canceled, the podcast that looks at

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Speaker 2: Philly celebrity crimes and as science charges and sentences to

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Speaker 2: them so we can all move on with our lives.

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Speaker 2: I'm Klas Stevens and I'm Jesse Stevens. And Jesse we

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Speaker 2: tried to start this podcast before, but you didn't have

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Speaker 2: a lazy girl, I forgot it. Creeps up on us

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Speaker 2: every time. Just for transparency, we come to this record.

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Speaker 2: You've had to do nothing, absolutely nothing. Well, I had

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Speaker 2: to prep a Lazy Girls, which I forgot to do

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Speaker 2: exactly So how you turn up with a big smile

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Speaker 2: on your face excited if you canceled without doing the

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Speaker 2: one part you wanted to do. I found it. Please

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Speaker 2: tell me. I looked in our dms. But if you

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Speaker 2: notice this meta AI thing that's now in the dms,

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Speaker 2: complicated can it be? Sharon has she has a brief one.

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Speaker 2: But I think that this speaks to something that lazy

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Speaker 2: not sparking joy. I remember being in primary school and

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Speaker 2: Is he French? No? He genuinely is, but like was

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Speaker 2: He has been nominated for Academy Awards, Golden Globe Awards.

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Speaker 2: Call Me by Your Name. Is it problematic? Absolutely? Do

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Speaker 2: Are you really? With Kylie Wonka? And a telling Twitter thread? Jesse,

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Speaker 2: how do you pronounce your name? Name? This man has

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Speaker 2: so many names. He's Timothy, He's Timothay, He's Timmy, his

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Speaker 2: pronounce your name? He's like, oh, you can call me anything, Timmy, Timothy, Doug, Alex.

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Speaker 2: don't know how offensive my bungle will be? And then

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Speaker 2: me yea, so please tell me write it down, repeat it,

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Speaker 2: choice of how I say your name, and I think

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Speaker 2: it should be Timmy now, Jesse. These are a few

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Speaker 2: But I always thought, I don't know if you guys.

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Speaker 6: But they always just seemed like too obnoxious requirement to

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Speaker 2: But I would never hold anyone today.

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Speaker 6: In France they called me that, and like your.

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Speaker 2: Mom never so apparently his mum never called him Timothy,

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Speaker 2: So what does his mum call him Timothy? So can't

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Speaker 2: we just call him Timothy? Yes? But there's a really

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Speaker 1: How do you know what pretentious?

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Speaker 2: Pretentious He's like, it's exactly what it is. It is pretentious.

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Speaker 2: But I think because it's French, we can make that joke.

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Speaker 2: The French are always fair game, right, Yeah, that's just

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Speaker 2: in every interview he stopped them and went, it's timidated.

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Speaker 2: I mean, even if he did, that is your name

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Speaker 2: it is. It's fine. English people need to get better

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Speaker 2: call him in this episode? Little Timmy tim, Little Timmy

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Speaker 2: Tim Yeah, which will make sense in a moment. Jesse

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Speaker 2: adolescent performances. If our high school drama performances existed on

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Speaker 2: best reaction I've ever got from a drama performance. I

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Speaker 2: not good at drama, no Jesse. Firstly, Timmy had an

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Speaker 1: It's boy, let's go Yeah, yeah, look at it's Timmy

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Speaker 2: Let's see, it's about statistics. This is what happened when

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Speaker 2: he's Wonka Coaster. Hugh Grant was informed of Little Timmy

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Speaker 2: tim You don't know about Timmy tim No, no, m'am Jimmythy.

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Speaker 2: How would we describe tim?

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Speaker 6: You know an awful digital footprint that exists of early

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Speaker 2: Ye, look at me, it's Timmy t That's a treat.

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Speaker 2: It's not bad. Okay, he's actually quite a talented rapper.

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Speaker 2: But I almost have the ick almost. Yeah, there's something

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Speaker 2: Hugh Grant in that clip does not know what to think.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh I didn't know about that. No, no one

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Speaker 2: thought you would you. Here's another performance where you get

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Speaker 2: Oh that's actually really hot. That move was hot.

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Speaker 1: Trying to do my dance, Timmy and tim pull up

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Speaker 2: Did you see that death?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Well I tag ta dragging God, thank you your

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Speaker 2: Now, that was surprisingly arousing. He's a professional dancer. He's

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Speaker 2: a board Where is that from his high school days?

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Speaker 2: So he's in high school and he's on stage rapping

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Speaker 5: He's a very beautiful man.

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Speaker 2: There's an unfounded rumor that he spread chlamydia around his

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Speaker 2: high school. Oh I believe it. Yeah, I wouldn't mind. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'll have farnd Of like Clavidia, I'll have some. Why

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Speaker 2: hasn't he done? Does he do dancing in Wonka? Yes?

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Speaker 2: And that's why I did Wonka because he wanted to

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Speaker 2: him in Wonka had seen this Jesse. This is another

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Speaker 2: rap boy.

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Speaker 6: Hit me with that beat.

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Speaker 2: Oh leaves would go way back Hell's kitchen?

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Speaker 1: Where's that first thing?

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Speaker 2: She said? He let me dead. They should have held

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Speaker 5: Turned into lamp me and I'm getting don't one of

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Speaker 2: Shady, He's essentially Beethoven. He's Beethoven. And do you meet

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Speaker 2: him the next slim? He's Timmy Tim. Timmy Tim is

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Speaker 2: you remember? And Hathaway, in a recent interview, said that

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Speaker 2: and I've never related to a statement from a celebrity mom.

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Speaker 2: I was like, so true. I don't know when I dance.

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Speaker 2: I can't make them do what I know they need

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Speaker 2: And what other people seem to be able to do. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: why I think that the process of spreading chlamydia was pleasant.

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Speaker 2: And you realize through watching meth clips, which I've spent

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Speaker 2: is eccentric, he's quirky, very quirky. A couple of other things.

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Speaker 2: him in musicals at school. Hot and he's so good.

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Speaker 2: You just remember going to a musical in high school

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, as a heterosexual, I would fall

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Speaker 2: almost like do you have the voice for an angel?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes. Videos of him starring musicals, there is

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Speaker 2: also footage of him dancing the Soldier Boy. Oh, and

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Speaker 2: a bit of fun. Lill Timmy, tim are you really

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Speaker 2: This question haunts me day in and day out because

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And then TMZ released photos of Kylie's familiar black

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Speaker 2: sit for a moment on why it doesn't work in

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Speaker 2: but it just they don't exist in the same universe.

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Speaker 2: For one, they make the same species, and I don't

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Speaker 2: Here is quirky, here's eccentric. I don't see her as

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Speaker 2: I'm out the front. I am interested in this thing

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Speaker 2: about like her familiar black Range Rover because doesn't everybody

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Speaker 2: in LA have a black Range Rover? Oh yeah, maybe

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Speaker 6: Play?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? True. A source told Entertainment tonight they are keeping

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Speaker 2: things casual at this point. It's not serious, but Kylie

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Speaker 2: It's been really fun for her because it feels a

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Speaker 2: also I believe that these sources are Kylie Jenna trying

423
00:23:05,544 --> 00:23:08,584
Speaker 2: to communicate the status of their relationship to Timothy.

424
00:23:09,024 --> 00:23:09,264
Speaker 6: Ah.

425
00:23:09,944 --> 00:23:12,584
Speaker 2: Yes, because it's awkward to have, say, in the land.

426
00:23:12,944 --> 00:23:18,264
Speaker 2: So I think she's been communicating where they're at. I

427
00:23:18,304 --> 00:23:21,704
Speaker 2: could have done that via people, all right, yep, Yeah,

428
00:23:21,784 --> 00:23:25,064
Speaker 2: She's like, we're just casually hanging out, but I like you.

429
00:23:25,824 --> 00:23:29,624
Speaker 2: But she's told report is that in May. A source

430
00:23:29,664 --> 00:23:33,744
Speaker 2: told Entertainment Tonight a source the new couple. We're trying

431
00:23:33,984 --> 00:23:37,784
Speaker 2: to keep things quiet. They're casually seeing each other, but

432
00:23:37,864 --> 00:23:40,344
Speaker 2: are trying to keep it low key. Timothy loves that

433
00:23:40,464 --> 00:23:43,264
Speaker 2: Kylie is such a hands on mum. I thought so.

434
00:23:43,384 --> 00:23:47,424
Speaker 2: Kylie said that, Yeah. He appreciates her confidence and thinks

435
00:23:47,544 --> 00:23:52,144
Speaker 2: she's incredibly beautiful. Okay, Kylie said that, Yeah, Kylie is

436
00:23:52,184 --> 00:23:55,544
Speaker 2: like Timmy, Timothy is obsessed with me. He thinks I'm

437
00:23:55,704 --> 00:24:02,264
Speaker 2: beautiful and perfect, my great mum. I'm a really good businesswoman, Okay, Kylie.

438
00:24:02,824 --> 00:24:06,424
Speaker 2: Travis Scott seemed to comment on Jenna's relationship with shaller

439
00:24:06,504 --> 00:24:09,344
Speaker 2: May in a new track in twenty twenty three. What

440
00:24:09,544 --> 00:24:11,464
Speaker 2: is a Travis Scott just a rapper?

441
00:24:11,904 --> 00:24:12,224
Speaker 6: All right?

442
00:24:13,304 --> 00:24:16,024
Speaker 2: Than the father of Stormy? Yeah? Does she have one child? No,

443
00:24:16,224 --> 00:24:19,304
Speaker 2: she got Stormy and Air and they're both the child

444
00:24:19,384 --> 00:24:21,904
Speaker 2: of Travis. And then because there was a child whose

445
00:24:22,024 --> 00:24:24,584
Speaker 2: name she kept changing that was air okay a ire.

446
00:24:25,024 --> 00:24:29,584
Speaker 2: I think it's pronounced air okay. Now. Travis's rap seemingly

447
00:24:29,784 --> 00:24:35,184
Speaker 2: referenced challow May's role in Wonka. I think it's a

448
00:24:35,264 --> 00:24:37,944
Speaker 2: low blow, low blow that sucks. You know how, Sometimes

449
00:24:37,984 --> 00:24:41,584
Speaker 2: you do things in your career and you think, let's

450
00:24:41,584 --> 00:24:43,704
Speaker 2: forget an X would have a field day with this.

451
00:24:44,064 --> 00:24:46,504
Speaker 2: This is being sent around in group chats of people

452
00:24:46,504 --> 00:24:48,864
Speaker 2: who don't like me, and I've got to live with that, ye,

453
00:24:48,984 --> 00:24:51,904
Speaker 2: because I've been silly, and that's what wanker is. I

454
00:24:51,944 --> 00:24:54,344
Speaker 2: think when the trailer came out, he was like, HiPE,

455
00:24:54,344 --> 00:24:59,184
Speaker 2: Travis doesn't say this. Travis said, chocolate, ap and chocolate.

456
00:24:59,264 --> 00:25:03,544
Speaker 2: The v's got the Willie Wonka factory. Burn an athlete

457
00:25:03,704 --> 00:25:10,424
Speaker 2: like it's calories and find another flame hot as me, bitch, true.

458
00:25:11,824 --> 00:25:15,504
Speaker 5: Got the willis work effectively happily, like this gallery.

459
00:25:15,864 --> 00:25:18,944
Speaker 2: The thing about people sharing messages via rap is that

460
00:25:19,024 --> 00:25:21,704
Speaker 2: it's never clear enough. No, no, no, it's always veiled

461
00:25:21,744 --> 00:25:24,464
Speaker 2: in strange. Like I love the reference to Elione because

462
00:25:24,464 --> 00:25:26,504
Speaker 2: you'd be completely honest. I think that that's quite clear.

463
00:25:26,584 --> 00:25:32,744
Speaker 2: But like Willy Wonka, you're the worst. I'm mad that

464
00:25:32,864 --> 00:25:34,864
Speaker 2: you're with my baby Mama like something like that with

465
00:25:34,864 --> 00:25:37,384
Speaker 2: the movie. It doesn't look that good, bitch. That's yeah,

466
00:25:37,424 --> 00:25:39,144
Speaker 2: that's a lot exactly. It's just that there's not a

467
00:25:39,224 --> 00:25:41,904
Speaker 2: lot of clarity in the diss Now, there have been

468
00:25:42,104 --> 00:25:47,224
Speaker 2: so many statements. I think Timmy tim should have replied

469
00:25:47,304 --> 00:25:49,664
Speaker 2: and we should have got into a disbattled, not unlike

470
00:25:49,784 --> 00:25:53,704
Speaker 2: Drake and Kendrick. It could have gone full Drake and Kendrick. Yeah.

471
00:25:53,784 --> 00:25:56,624
Speaker 5: True, we were curious about who might win in a

472
00:25:56,704 --> 00:25:58,544
Speaker 5: fake rap battle between Trav and Timmy.

473
00:25:58,624 --> 00:26:02,144
Speaker 1: Tim Timmy and Tim call up your pants, but then

474
00:26:02,224 --> 00:26:07,064
Speaker 1: never flame might a bely work effectively.

475
00:26:08,744 --> 00:26:11,544
Speaker 2: Now, there have been so many statements from sources about

476
00:26:11,584 --> 00:26:15,144
Speaker 2: this couple that I genuinely believe they've been dating, but

477
00:26:15,224 --> 00:26:17,304
Speaker 2: they're not sure if they're a couple, and they're trying

478
00:26:17,304 --> 00:26:20,464
Speaker 2: to work it out. Via the media. In August, a

479
00:26:20,624 --> 00:26:25,584
Speaker 2: source source Kylie Yes Okay told Us Weekly. Yeah, Kylie

480
00:26:25,624 --> 00:26:28,384
Speaker 2: and Timothy have been spending that much time together recently. Okay,

481
00:26:28,384 --> 00:26:31,064
Speaker 2: So I both pissed Timothy hasn't been replying to her

482
00:26:31,104 --> 00:26:32,824
Speaker 2: text for a few weeks yep, And she's like, all right,

483
00:26:32,904 --> 00:26:35,744
Speaker 2: I'll just convey that as clearly as I can through

484
00:26:35,944 --> 00:26:39,024
Speaker 2: US Weekly. They love a statement that says they're keeping

485
00:26:39,064 --> 00:26:42,544
Speaker 2: things casual, which is the cool thing to do, keeping

486
00:26:42,584 --> 00:26:44,544
Speaker 2: things casual. When I'm a cool girl, I'll just I'll

487
00:26:44,704 --> 00:26:47,784
Speaker 2: just tell us Weekly that we're keeping it cash. You

488
00:26:47,824 --> 00:26:51,024
Speaker 2: would have seen Kylie Jenner and Timothy Shalemy made their

489
00:26:51,104 --> 00:26:55,744
Speaker 2: public debut at a Beyonce concept. They were filmed being

490
00:26:55,864 --> 00:27:00,544
Speaker 2: really close talking and kissing the other. Thing to know, Yeah,

491
00:27:01,024 --> 00:27:05,624
Speaker 2: Timothy was smoking tucked. What Leo said he could do

492
00:27:05,744 --> 00:27:08,344
Speaker 2: soft drugs, Yeah, true, true truth. He said, as long

493
00:27:08,384 --> 00:27:09,984
Speaker 2: as he's not on the meth, as long as he's

494
00:27:10,024 --> 00:27:12,704
Speaker 2: not inting heroin at the concert, yeah, and he's not

495
00:27:12,864 --> 00:27:17,664
Speaker 2: saying yes to some marvel thing, then he's planned by

496
00:27:17,704 --> 00:27:21,384
Speaker 2: the rules. I don't love he's young. He might be

497
00:27:21,584 --> 00:27:24,384
Speaker 2: having the vap addiction. No, I but it wasn't a vape.

498
00:27:24,424 --> 00:27:27,944
Speaker 2: It was a cigarette. I saw the photo. That's very French. Yeah.

499
00:27:28,704 --> 00:27:31,424
Speaker 2: They then went to a fashion week event together in

500
00:27:31,504 --> 00:27:34,184
Speaker 2: New York and to the US Open where they kissed.

501
00:27:34,904 --> 00:27:39,304
Speaker 2: Then El Mexico captured photos of Kylie Jenner at a

502
00:27:39,384 --> 00:27:44,824
Speaker 2: Prada fashion show with her Timothy Challomay lock screen visible

503
00:27:44,904 --> 00:27:49,664
Speaker 2: on her fun yeah, fun, And I just don't think

504
00:27:49,704 --> 00:27:53,064
Speaker 2: you can fake a lock screen. In fairness, I'll probably

505
00:27:53,104 --> 00:27:55,704
Speaker 2: be changing my lock screen after this podcast. Or a

506
00:27:55,704 --> 00:27:58,904
Speaker 2: picture of Timothy Challameay, Well it was them kissing.

507
00:27:59,664 --> 00:28:00,144
Speaker 5: I don't have that.

508
00:28:00,344 --> 00:28:02,864
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you don't have one of those. Challameay was

509
00:28:02,904 --> 00:28:06,944
Speaker 2: asked about Jenna in an interview with GQ, and the

510
00:28:07,264 --> 00:28:09,984
Speaker 2: reporter wrote that he bristles at the suggestion that he

511
00:28:10,104 --> 00:28:13,224
Speaker 2: might not be entitled to a holy private life, and

512
00:28:13,384 --> 00:28:16,344
Speaker 2: the reporter says, if he really wanted to be left alone,

513
00:28:16,744 --> 00:28:19,184
Speaker 2: he might not spend time with one of the foremost

514
00:28:19,304 --> 00:28:21,904
Speaker 2: followed people on Instagram. Oh, you can't help the heart, ones,

515
00:28:21,944 --> 00:28:22,744
Speaker 2: what the heart wants?

516
00:28:22,904 --> 00:28:23,104
Speaker 4: Does?

517
00:28:23,184 --> 00:28:25,264
Speaker 2: He can't help that he's fallen in love with Kylie,

518
00:28:25,504 --> 00:28:29,344
Speaker 2: and Chalomage nodded and laughed and said, this reminds me

519
00:28:29,424 --> 00:28:32,904
Speaker 2: of that recent South Park episode with the Worldwide Privacy Tour,

520
00:28:33,584 --> 00:28:36,264
Speaker 2: that one that's a parody of Megan Markle and Prince Harry.

521
00:28:36,304 --> 00:28:38,504
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And he said, sometimes people are going to

522
00:28:38,504 --> 00:28:40,704
Speaker 2: be Hella confused when you say you're trying to live

523
00:28:40,904 --> 00:28:41,624
Speaker 2: a private life.

524
00:28:41,704 --> 00:28:42,904
Speaker 3: We just want to be normal people.

525
00:28:43,104 --> 00:28:45,544
Speaker 2: This attachment it's so hard. So he's trying to keep private.

526
00:28:45,864 --> 00:28:46,024
Speaker 1: Yeah.

527
00:28:46,144 --> 00:28:50,024
Speaker 2: Then when Challamey hosted SNL with me.

528
00:28:51,704 --> 00:28:54,704
Speaker 6: And You'll be in a.

529
00:28:55,024 --> 00:29:01,304
Speaker 2: World of shameless self promotion, Chris reposted the promotional video.

530
00:29:01,704 --> 00:29:06,784
Speaker 2: Oh Chris, so Chris is like yay, Holy's boyfriend, and

531
00:29:06,904 --> 00:29:10,904
Speaker 2: she said, tune into SNL tonight. Okay, just because he's

532
00:29:11,104 --> 00:29:15,464
Speaker 2: dating your daughter doesn't mean that you're his manager. Get

533
00:29:15,544 --> 00:29:19,784
Speaker 2: out your finger out of that pie. In December, a

534
00:29:19,864 --> 00:29:24,944
Speaker 2: source told People that Kylie was officially calling Timothy her book. Kylie,

535
00:29:25,144 --> 00:29:28,624
Speaker 2: you can't tell people before you tell Timothy, we're officially

536
00:29:28,704 --> 00:29:32,224
Speaker 2: boyfriend girlfriend. Read it here here, it's in the magazine.

537
00:29:32,584 --> 00:29:35,664
Speaker 2: She's incredibly happy. The sauce said, he's very supportive of

538
00:29:35,744 --> 00:29:37,784
Speaker 2: her career and she of his. They both try to

539
00:29:37,864 --> 00:29:40,704
Speaker 2: attend important events together. So apparently they have like great

540
00:29:40,744 --> 00:29:45,104
Speaker 2: family values. It's just lovely. Challomas a stepdad. This is

541
00:29:45,264 --> 00:29:47,464
Speaker 2: just no. Apparently he hasn't spent a lot of time

542
00:29:47,544 --> 00:29:50,104
Speaker 2: with the kids. Oh, she's introduced him to the kids

543
00:29:50,144 --> 00:29:52,624
Speaker 2: as a friend of mummies. Interesting, Okay, I needed to

544
00:29:52,704 --> 00:29:56,064
Speaker 2: know that. According to a sauce, Challo May is in

545
00:29:56,184 --> 00:30:01,024
Speaker 2: awe of everything she is accomplishing, and especially thinks she's

546
00:30:01,024 --> 00:30:05,064
Speaker 2: an amazing mmy okay, Kylie, Kylie. Now, at the Golden

547
00:30:05,064 --> 00:30:07,624
Speaker 2: Globes in January, they didn't walk the red carpet together,

548
00:30:07,704 --> 00:30:10,024
Speaker 2: but they did sit next to each other and there's

549
00:30:10,024 --> 00:30:12,624
Speaker 2: a clu where lip readers reckon. They said I love

550
00:30:12,704 --> 00:30:14,304
Speaker 2: you to each other. I did see that.

551
00:30:14,504 --> 00:30:14,704
Speaker 1: Yeah.

552
00:30:15,104 --> 00:30:16,984
Speaker 2: Now the other thing about the Golden Globes that I

553
00:30:17,064 --> 00:30:21,344
Speaker 2: completely forgot, Jesse, do you remember that Selena Gomez went

554
00:30:21,464 --> 00:30:24,424
Speaker 2: up to Taylor Swift told her something and then Taylor

555
00:30:24,464 --> 00:30:28,384
Speaker 2: Swift's jaw dropped and everyone was convinced that Selena Gomez

556
00:30:28,424 --> 00:30:30,144
Speaker 2: had said that she tried to get a photo with

557
00:30:30,224 --> 00:30:34,584
Speaker 2: Timothy Shallomey and Kylie said, no, really, yeah that was

558
00:30:34,664 --> 00:30:36,984
Speaker 2: what people thought it was. Do you think that's what

559
00:30:37,064 --> 00:30:41,344
Speaker 2: I was? Yes, sir, I would never speculate. Selena Gomes

560
00:30:41,424 --> 00:30:45,384
Speaker 2: starts shit all the time. She always starts shit. I

561
00:30:45,544 --> 00:30:48,024
Speaker 2: saw this. I'm just gonna say it. I need a moment.

562
00:30:48,944 --> 00:30:53,784
Speaker 2: When Hailee and Justin announced their pregnancy, Selena had to

563
00:30:53,944 --> 00:30:56,824
Speaker 2: post and everyone was like, she's gonna post, She's gonna post,

564
00:30:56,864 --> 00:30:58,904
Speaker 2: and then she posted like I don't know a ring

565
00:30:59,104 --> 00:31:03,624
Speaker 2: or something like she just leave her alone. I think

566
00:31:03,704 --> 00:31:04,464
Speaker 2: she starts shit.

567
00:31:04,704 --> 00:31:05,384
Speaker 1: I do I do.

568
00:31:05,944 --> 00:31:08,704
Speaker 2: Okay, well, even if she starts shit, what if it

569
00:31:08,864 --> 00:31:13,864
Speaker 2: was true, because remember, Kylie is friends with Hailey Bean

570
00:31:15,104 --> 00:31:19,424
Speaker 2: and they Bullyeve. Slightly weird for Selena Gomez to ask

571
00:31:19,584 --> 00:31:22,424
Speaker 2: tim Timothy for a photo the Golden Classes, Yeah, it does.

572
00:31:23,024 --> 00:31:25,504
Speaker 2: I would. Yeah, but you're not Selena Gomes. You're not

573
00:31:25,544 --> 00:31:30,224
Speaker 2: the most followed person on Instagram. A reporter followed Schalamey

574
00:31:30,264 --> 00:31:34,464
Speaker 2: around asking asking about it, and he said him and

575
00:31:34,544 --> 00:31:37,744
Speaker 2: Selena are cool and there was no beef. Lately, there

576
00:31:37,784 --> 00:31:41,304
Speaker 2: have been rumors that Kylie is expecting Timothy's baby okay, fun, fun,

577
00:31:41,504 --> 00:31:44,664
Speaker 2: although they've been shut down and now people are curious

578
00:31:44,664 --> 00:31:47,464
Speaker 2: about whether Timothy will be in the upcoming season of

579
00:31:47,464 --> 00:31:50,704
Speaker 2: The Kardashians. Jesse, do you believe this relationship is real?

580
00:31:51,024 --> 00:31:53,784
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I think about it more than

581
00:31:53,824 --> 00:31:57,184
Speaker 2: I think about most things, and I can't decide. I

582
00:31:57,304 --> 00:32:00,344
Speaker 2: think it's almost too weird to not be real. It's

583
00:32:00,424 --> 00:32:03,464
Speaker 2: too weird if it's a PR relationship, what a creative

584
00:32:03,504 --> 00:32:06,944
Speaker 2: PR relationship? Yeah, but no one's more creative than the Kardashians.

585
00:32:07,384 --> 00:32:10,624
Speaker 2: M they're so creative. I mean, he's one of the

586
00:32:10,704 --> 00:32:14,424
Speaker 2: most famous actors in the world and I read recently

587
00:32:14,544 --> 00:32:19,024
Speaker 2: that he is the only actor that can basically premiere

588
00:32:19,344 --> 00:32:24,544
Speaker 2: a movie to box office number one from June to

589
00:32:24,784 --> 00:32:27,464
Speaker 2: what was he in Wonka? Like all of that. It

590
00:32:27,664 --> 00:32:29,864
Speaker 2: just goes off because he's the biggest name in Hollywood.

591
00:32:30,144 --> 00:32:30,304
Speaker 6: Yeah.

592
00:32:30,344 --> 00:32:32,624
Speaker 2: I don't think he needs Kylie, and I don't think

593
00:32:32,704 --> 00:32:35,624
Speaker 2: Kylie needs him. I think Kylie needs him, and I

594
00:32:35,704 --> 00:32:38,024
Speaker 2: think that if Kylie needs him, then she and Chris

595
00:32:38,064 --> 00:32:40,664
Speaker 2: will find a way to get him. Okay. I don't

596
00:32:40,704 --> 00:32:43,624
Speaker 2: think it will last, okay. And I also would say

597
00:32:43,664 --> 00:32:46,064
Speaker 2: that if I was reading rumors about how my current

598
00:32:46,144 --> 00:32:48,544
Speaker 2: boyfriend was giving everyon chlamydia in high school, then I

599
00:32:48,624 --> 00:32:54,264
Speaker 2: would get tested. I would the chlamydia rumor is completely unfounded.

600
00:32:54,304 --> 00:32:56,504
Speaker 2: I'd like that on the record, Claire, have you seen

601
00:32:56,824 --> 00:33:02,144
Speaker 2: the memes about how Timothy Schallomy looks like a medieval shoe?

602
00:33:03,024 --> 00:33:04,904
Speaker 2: Now that you say, yes, I have, yep. Yeah, And

603
00:33:05,024 --> 00:33:07,104
Speaker 2: it's the shoe is brown. It kind of goes up

604
00:33:07,104 --> 00:33:10,064
Speaker 2: at the end. It's like a little Elf and Shakespeare

605
00:33:10,344 --> 00:33:14,744
Speaker 2: and I'm in a wooden theater shoe, Frank. Kylie Jenner

606
00:33:15,144 --> 00:33:17,664
Speaker 2: looks like she has my front face. She looks like

607
00:33:18,144 --> 00:33:20,384
Speaker 2: she's applied to filter and it got stuck. You know

608
00:33:20,464 --> 00:33:22,184
Speaker 2: how when we were kids, none was like full of

609
00:33:22,224 --> 00:33:24,864
Speaker 2: silly face and the wind changes, you'll get stuck. She

610
00:33:24,984 --> 00:33:26,504
Speaker 2: had a filter on, it got stuck. And now her

611
00:33:26,544 --> 00:33:33,024
Speaker 2: face is always in Valencia, or her face is in

612
00:33:33,104 --> 00:33:40,304
Speaker 2: Valencia Valen. So what I'm finding is it's like I'm

613
00:33:40,384 --> 00:33:43,584
Speaker 2: watching a film where we've gone back in time. You

614
00:33:43,704 --> 00:33:46,264
Speaker 2: know those films where it's like, I think one is

615
00:33:46,344 --> 00:33:50,344
Speaker 2: called about Time or something, or like Outlander, and we

616
00:33:50,504 --> 00:33:53,344
Speaker 2: go back and we've got different periods and we've got

617
00:33:53,464 --> 00:33:56,504
Speaker 2: a love story. This is what I feel like is happening.

618
00:33:56,664 --> 00:34:01,104
Speaker 2: There's a glitch in the matrix. Tim Atay doesn't belong here.

619
00:34:02,224 --> 00:34:07,784
Speaker 2: Kylie Jenna is Ai. I don't mean that offensively.

620
00:34:08,184 --> 00:34:08,664
Speaker 1: She just is.

621
00:34:08,784 --> 00:34:11,944
Speaker 2: She is Ai, and I'm seeing them together and I'm

622
00:34:12,064 --> 00:34:15,864
Speaker 2: like this, no compute. The other way I've seen Timothy

623
00:34:15,864 --> 00:34:19,904
Speaker 2: Shower May described is plague boy. He looks like but

624
00:34:20,584 --> 00:34:22,144
Speaker 2: he just looks like he exists in the time of

625
00:34:22,184 --> 00:34:25,184
Speaker 2: a plague. He does look like he has suffered from

626
00:34:25,264 --> 00:34:29,264
Speaker 2: plague in a hot way, such hot way, like maybe

627
00:34:29,344 --> 00:34:33,104
Speaker 2: he's just recovered. Yeah, and from bed rest. Kylie looks

628
00:34:33,224 --> 00:34:38,144
Speaker 2: like she was vaccinated against the plague, and then it

629
00:34:38,264 --> 00:34:40,784
Speaker 2: doesn't come near her. No, no, no, it would never

630
00:34:40,904 --> 00:34:43,624
Speaker 2: touch her. I'll put it this way. Kylie looks like

631
00:34:43,704 --> 00:34:48,984
Speaker 2: she'd survive the plate. Timothy doesn't. He looks ponderable, He

632
00:34:49,104 --> 00:34:58,704
Speaker 2: looks plonderful. He Wonka.

633
00:34:58,944 --> 00:35:05,984
Speaker 6: Chocolate bushes, chocolate trees, chocolate flowers, chocolate.

634
00:35:06,744 --> 00:35:11,584
Speaker 2: Have I seen Wonka? No? Do I intend to, absolutely not.

635
00:35:12,224 --> 00:35:15,664
Speaker 2: I will only appreciate Wonka as an out of context

636
00:35:15,864 --> 00:35:21,104
Speaker 2: piece of Hugh Grant singing umpah lumpa dumpety doo is

637
00:35:21,264 --> 00:35:31,184
Speaker 2: simply wild. I've got a tragic tale for oil. I

638
00:35:31,464 --> 00:35:34,864
Speaker 2: just think it's so weird that they made a movie

639
00:35:35,344 --> 00:35:39,464
Speaker 2: called Wonka. It's also a weird move for Timothy Schallame.

640
00:35:39,984 --> 00:35:44,144
Speaker 2: And I feel like Leonardo DiCaprio meant, don't do superhero movies,

641
00:35:44,344 --> 00:35:48,304
Speaker 2: don't do hard drugs, do not do Wonker Wonka. He did,

642
00:35:48,464 --> 00:35:51,744
Speaker 2: He got interrupted, and he forgot to finish that sentence. Jesse,

643
00:35:52,424 --> 00:35:56,744
Speaker 2: I just want you to read a few reviews of Wonka. Yes,

644
00:35:57,264 --> 00:36:01,544
Speaker 2: I was in hysterics, but I think I'm unhinged when

645
00:36:01,624 --> 00:36:04,984
Speaker 2: it comes to Wonka. All Right, here we go. Hated

646
00:36:05,024 --> 00:36:09,184
Speaker 2: this movie. Wasn't expecting for a musical typo only like

647
00:36:09,304 --> 00:36:14,064
Speaker 2: the hugres mbumba. I don't see nothing special on Timothy Chalomey.

648
00:36:14,144 --> 00:36:16,184
Speaker 2: It's nice that they did the pronunciation, even in their

649
00:36:16,224 --> 00:36:19,704
Speaker 2: trolling review. I don't see anything special in Timothy Shalomet acting.

650
00:36:19,904 --> 00:36:22,944
Speaker 2: They could have chosen someone else, waste of time. Lost

651
00:36:23,064 --> 00:36:26,104
Speaker 2: the concept of chocolate factory, which is clearly that person's

652
00:36:26,144 --> 00:36:30,224
Speaker 2: favor that I just find it so funny people analyzing like, yeah,

653
00:36:30,344 --> 00:36:33,744
Speaker 2: well I liked up Bompa, but you are lost on

654
00:36:33,784 --> 00:36:36,784
Speaker 2: the contract. You lost the concept of chocolate factor. Wasn't

655
00:36:36,864 --> 00:36:40,224
Speaker 2: enough chocolate factory? Where was Chocolate River? The only good

656
00:36:40,264 --> 00:36:42,384
Speaker 2: parts were the bits that reference the old Willy Wonk

657
00:36:42,704 --> 00:36:48,664
Speaker 2: and the chocolate factory really made me lose it. Continue Okay,

658
00:36:49,104 --> 00:36:52,064
Speaker 2: could have been more, could have had more catchy songs,

659
00:36:52,264 --> 00:37:05,904
Speaker 2: and this is in capitals needed more dem Obama Upama lumpas. Overall,

660
00:37:05,984 --> 00:37:07,864
Speaker 2: the cast was a mixed bag, with the weight of

661
00:37:07,904 --> 00:37:11,544
Speaker 2: the entire movie basically being carried by Keek and Michael Keat.

662
00:37:11,664 --> 00:37:14,664
Speaker 2: I don't know no no no, but continue, and surprisingly enough,

663
00:37:14,784 --> 00:37:18,984
Speaker 2: you Grant, who was oddly natural in the disgruntled roll.

664
00:37:19,504 --> 00:37:22,344
Speaker 2: Who would have thought me? I think he've been waiting

665
00:37:22,424 --> 00:37:24,264
Speaker 2: for that. I think Hugh Grant. I'm pretty sure he

666
00:37:24,344 --> 00:37:26,184
Speaker 2: said this. He checked out ages ago. He's just he

667
00:37:26,304 --> 00:37:27,824
Speaker 2: just needs a paycheck. And I think he saw that

668
00:37:27,944 --> 00:37:30,904
Speaker 2: come along and he was like, I can't feel more shame,

669
00:37:31,424 --> 00:37:44,104
Speaker 2: no hate me and put me in a jar. I

670
00:37:44,224 --> 00:37:47,464
Speaker 2: had to battle to finish watching Wonka. Every time characters

671
00:37:47,504 --> 00:37:52,584
Speaker 2: burst into song, I screamed at the screen. Stop bloody,

672
00:37:52,624 --> 00:37:57,864
Speaker 2: stop bloody sing here's another one. The story is strange

673
00:37:58,184 --> 00:38:00,504
Speaker 2: and it's hard to follow. It is we do you

674
00:38:00,704 --> 00:38:05,984
Speaker 2: know the story? Come on, it's I also wanted to

675
00:38:06,024 --> 00:38:07,984
Speaker 2: watch this movie because I thought it would be about

676
00:38:08,024 --> 00:38:16,224
Speaker 2: Wonka giving away the factory. Even about that, such strong feelings.

677
00:38:18,384 --> 00:38:24,144
Speaker 2: I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed on the projects. Georgie, who hosts,

678
00:38:24,184 --> 00:38:26,864
Speaker 2: sometimes had to interview Timothy and I don't know, maybe

679
00:38:26,904 --> 00:38:29,704
Speaker 2: Michael Keegan, something someone else. And she went to ask

680
00:38:29,744 --> 00:38:31,864
Speaker 2: the first question and they sung to her for like

681
00:38:31,984 --> 00:38:34,664
Speaker 2: three minutes. They made a song that was like Georgie,

682
00:38:35,344 --> 00:38:38,064
Speaker 2: but they just kept seeing and it was like they

683
00:38:38,104 --> 00:38:41,744
Speaker 2: were on had drugs. It was like they had become

684
00:38:41,984 --> 00:38:44,504
Speaker 2: so delusional. But I think she was their last interview

685
00:38:44,904 --> 00:38:47,144
Speaker 2: and they were like George, it was like an ump

686
00:38:47,264 --> 00:38:49,264
Speaker 2: Wonka song. Okay, it was like the whole interview and

687
00:38:49,304 --> 00:38:51,304
Speaker 2: then she was like, so Wonker, and they were clearly like,

688
00:38:51,424 --> 00:38:53,024
Speaker 2: don't want to talk about.

689
00:38:55,984 --> 00:38:56,544
Speaker 6: This is.

690
00:38:59,224 --> 00:39:09,864
Speaker 2: That's the best introduction I have this. I don't want

691
00:39:09,904 --> 00:39:13,184
Speaker 2: to talk Wonka. It was a weird thing. It was

692
00:39:13,344 --> 00:39:17,864
Speaker 2: a weird time. Wonka. He's strange. A telling Twitter thread, Jesse,

693
00:39:17,984 --> 00:39:22,144
Speaker 2: there's a viral Twitter thread titled problematic Things. Timothy Schallamay

694
00:39:22,224 --> 00:39:25,464
Speaker 2: has done a much needed thread and I read this

695
00:39:25,624 --> 00:39:28,824
Speaker 2: on everyone who hits a certain prefile. YEP. I need

696
00:39:28,944 --> 00:39:31,744
Speaker 2: you to read out the first few and try and

697
00:39:31,944 --> 00:39:34,904
Speaker 2: kind of just summarize where sage. All right, here we go,

698
00:39:35,184 --> 00:39:37,464
Speaker 2: just the overall vibe. But these people do God's work.

699
00:39:37,464 --> 00:39:40,824
Speaker 2: They should win a Walkley. All right, cannibalism ate your

700
00:39:40,904 --> 00:39:44,064
Speaker 2: faves up. And then it's pictures of him in nice clothes.

701
00:39:44,264 --> 00:39:47,824
Speaker 2: Oh he's so sexy, murder his looks can kill. I

702
00:39:47,944 --> 00:39:51,024
Speaker 2: love this thread. Oh he's so hot. Sorry, I'm looking

703
00:39:51,024 --> 00:39:55,424
Speaker 2: at the pictures, all right. Robbery stolen many hearts? Is

704
00:39:55,584 --> 00:39:58,304
Speaker 2: this the most canceled this man has ever been? Here

705
00:39:58,384 --> 00:40:03,144
Speaker 2: we go, broken bones from carrying industry on his back.

706
00:40:03,384 --> 00:40:06,664
Speaker 2: I agree with that Wonka has passed five hundred million

707
00:40:06,704 --> 00:40:10,304
Speaker 2: dollars worldwide and has become the highest grossing film feature.

708
00:40:10,344 --> 00:40:14,104
Speaker 2: Bring Willie Wonka. How about the other one, Charlie in

709
00:40:14,144 --> 00:40:19,064
Speaker 2: the Chocolate Factory with Violet. Yes, that was a brilliant film, Jess.

710
00:40:19,544 --> 00:40:23,744
Speaker 2: It's because he's not canceled, he's not problematic. He's never

711
00:40:24,064 --> 00:40:28,344
Speaker 2: committed a crime. No, so they're like robbery stole your heart? Yeah,

712
00:40:28,584 --> 00:40:39,304
Speaker 2: did well, well, said Jesse. It's time for charges and sentences. Jesse.

713
00:40:39,464 --> 00:40:44,784
Speaker 2: My charge. It is clear that Timothy, with his performances

714
00:40:45,384 --> 00:40:47,584
Speaker 2: which are amazing, and everyone should go and have a look.

715
00:40:48,224 --> 00:40:50,264
Speaker 2: He was a precocious teenager.

716
00:40:50,704 --> 00:40:50,904
Speaker 1: Yep.

717
00:40:51,464 --> 00:40:56,104
Speaker 2: He was very very out there. Yep. He backed himself.

718
00:40:56,304 --> 00:40:59,224
Speaker 2: He backed himself. And I charged him honestly with being

719
00:40:59,304 --> 00:41:02,584
Speaker 2: a lot. Oh wow. Yeah it was a lot which

720
00:41:02,664 --> 00:41:06,224
Speaker 2: has manifested in one car. Yeah, he has manifested in

721
00:41:06,264 --> 00:41:08,704
Speaker 2: great things. But he was a lot as a teenager. Yeah,

722
00:41:08,744 --> 00:41:10,744
Speaker 2: and I think it was just a lot to handle. Okay,

723
00:41:11,064 --> 00:41:13,984
Speaker 2: my sentences. He needs to bring back a little Timmy,

724
00:41:14,064 --> 00:41:21,184
Speaker 2: tim please, Honestly, his rap career would go nuts, and

725
00:41:21,264 --> 00:41:23,944
Speaker 2: looking at those video it brings him immense joy. And

726
00:41:23,984 --> 00:41:26,624
Speaker 2: there are so many celebrities I mean, we've got Robert Pattinson.

727
00:41:26,744 --> 00:41:30,544
Speaker 2: I would like to see Timothy have a failed musical

728
00:41:30,624 --> 00:41:34,384
Speaker 2: career because I think that kind of makes you more Hollywood.

729
00:41:34,784 --> 00:41:38,704
Speaker 2: He talks about Scarala, your handsome recently failed music career,

730
00:41:38,944 --> 00:41:41,224
Speaker 2: and she's quite good. Yeah, we've talked about Russell kra

731
00:41:41,384 --> 00:41:44,464
Speaker 2: but it's more relatable. Yeah, there's something very relatable about

732
00:41:44,504 --> 00:41:46,144
Speaker 2: because I don't think he's going to fail in the

733
00:41:46,184 --> 00:41:49,824
Speaker 2: whole acting thing. But i'd like to see myself more

734
00:41:49,864 --> 00:41:52,824
Speaker 2: in Timothy, which I will see if he does have

735
00:41:53,144 --> 00:41:56,544
Speaker 2: a very imperfect music career. Yeah, I want little tim

736
00:41:56,624 --> 00:41:59,984
Speaker 2: meet him back. The thing is, I actually don't think

737
00:42:00,024 --> 00:42:03,824
Speaker 2: he'd fail because he's an excellent dancer. He's an excellent rapper,

738
00:42:03,864 --> 00:42:06,784
Speaker 2: and he can sing. He's a triple threat. I think

739
00:42:06,824 --> 00:42:08,984
Speaker 2: he could be kind of a Justin Bieber mm hmm,

740
00:42:09,424 --> 00:42:10,944
Speaker 2: like you know when Justin bie But did kind of

741
00:42:10,984 --> 00:42:13,784
Speaker 2: a bit of wrapping and always a bit hip hop. Yeah,

742
00:42:13,864 --> 00:42:16,944
Speaker 2: I think he could do that. I want it back, Jessee.

743
00:42:17,064 --> 00:42:21,384
Speaker 2: What's your charge? In sentence? My charge is the Kylie

744
00:42:21,464 --> 00:42:25,344
Speaker 2: and Timothy thing. To me, it's like an optical illusion

745
00:42:25,424 --> 00:42:27,984
Speaker 2: that I can't stop looking at. It's a vortex that

746
00:42:28,064 --> 00:42:31,064
Speaker 2: I fall into and I try and understand. I try

747
00:42:31,144 --> 00:42:33,664
Speaker 2: and unscramble, and the more I try to unscramble, the

748
00:42:33,784 --> 00:42:37,744
Speaker 2: more lost I become. It's sucking up my time energy.

749
00:42:38,424 --> 00:42:41,744
Speaker 2: It is taking me away from my husband and child. Yeah,

750
00:42:42,064 --> 00:42:46,704
Speaker 2: because I'm in my home environment trying to understand the ununderstandable.

751
00:42:46,944 --> 00:42:48,424
Speaker 2: And I go to bed at night and I think

752
00:42:48,464 --> 00:42:49,904
Speaker 2: I'll go to sleep, I'll go. I go to sleep,

753
00:42:49,944 --> 00:42:53,264
Speaker 2: and then I go, I don't see it. No, I

754
00:42:53,384 --> 00:42:56,944
Speaker 2: don't see it. And is it a pr romance or

755
00:42:57,064 --> 00:42:59,424
Speaker 2: did it start that way? And now they've fallen in love?

756
00:42:59,664 --> 00:43:02,224
Speaker 2: Is it true love? Is it true love? And I

757
00:43:02,344 --> 00:43:04,504
Speaker 2: don't know. I can't get my head. I'm going to

758
00:43:04,584 --> 00:43:07,184
Speaker 2: be a child that's a mixture of Kylie Jenner and

759
00:43:07,224 --> 00:43:10,824
Speaker 2: Timothy Shalloway. And you know what it requires fires of

760
00:43:10,984 --> 00:43:14,304
Speaker 2: me a hot take. I feel like at the lunch

761
00:43:15,304 --> 00:43:17,984
Speaker 2: I need to have something to say, a little quit.

762
00:43:18,264 --> 00:43:20,144
Speaker 2: I don't have allus. I can't sum it up in

763
00:43:20,224 --> 00:43:22,984
Speaker 2: a sentence because I can't sum it up other than

764
00:43:23,024 --> 00:43:27,824
Speaker 2: I'm confused. It's bizarre. It's a mess. I have questions.

765
00:43:27,904 --> 00:43:32,704
Speaker 2: I have no answers. I exclusively have questions, which brings

766
00:43:32,744 --> 00:43:36,744
Speaker 2: me to my sentence, which is love that Kylie's leaking.

767
00:43:37,384 --> 00:43:41,904
Speaker 2: Love that it provides more evidence and more places for

768
00:43:42,024 --> 00:43:43,984
Speaker 2: my brain to go when I'm ruminating at three am.

769
00:43:44,624 --> 00:43:47,824
Speaker 2: What I need, what we need, the world needs, is

770
00:43:47,864 --> 00:43:50,464
Speaker 2: for timoth haying. We need his side, We need his side,

771
00:43:50,504 --> 00:43:52,624
Speaker 2: We need him to start leaking. He can leak to

772
00:43:52,664 --> 00:43:56,784
Speaker 2: his own magazines. I'm sure there's a French magazine called Monsieur.

773
00:43:58,144 --> 00:44:02,904
Speaker 2: Go to Monsieur and say things like, Kylie thinks Timothy

774
00:44:03,064 --> 00:44:05,944
Speaker 2: is a sexy rapper. Kylie's liked him ever since, a

775
00:44:05,984 --> 00:44:10,304
Speaker 2: little Timmy tim Yeah, exactly right. Kylie says he's performed

776
00:44:10,624 --> 00:44:15,224
Speaker 2: in Wonka, was once in a century performance. Just start laking.

777
00:44:15,344 --> 00:44:17,184
Speaker 2: She thinks he'd be a great father. Oh, I love it,

778
00:44:17,544 --> 00:44:19,464
Speaker 2: love it, yep. I want more of that. We do

779
00:44:19,624 --> 00:44:21,824
Speaker 2: need more of Timothy's perspective. By getting a lot of

780
00:44:21,944 --> 00:44:24,864
Speaker 2: Kylie Yep, yep, Jesse, that is all we have time

781
00:44:24,944 --> 00:44:28,944
Speaker 2: for on today's episode. Canceled is produced by Tilisipizzazz with

782
00:44:29,184 --> 00:44:32,904
Speaker 2: audio by Tom Lyon four receipts of today's episode, and

783
00:44:33,024 --> 00:44:35,744
Speaker 2: we will put up the videos, the dancing you can

784
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Speaker 2: go to, the twins and the school thoughts on Instagram

785
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Speaker 2: and we will be back next week. Bye bye,