1 00:00:10,365 --> 00:00:15,005 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mama Maya acknowledges 2 00:00:15,045 --> 00:00:17,685 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast 3 00:00:17,765 --> 00:00:18,485 Speaker 1: is recorded on. 4 00:00:18,685 --> 00:00:22,565 Speaker 2: I'm just really grateful, Like it's just getting a job 5 00:00:22,605 --> 00:00:25,365 Speaker 2: as an actor is like winning the lottery. So getting 6 00:00:25,365 --> 00:00:29,085 Speaker 2: one that resonates with people and that I would watch 7 00:00:29,125 --> 00:00:32,805 Speaker 2: and be entertained by myself is I don't know, winning 8 00:00:32,845 --> 00:00:35,765 Speaker 2: the triple lottery or something. So I would be happy 9 00:00:35,805 --> 00:00:39,605 Speaker 2: to shake Ron's hand and serve him mistake if he showed. 10 00:00:39,405 --> 00:00:48,325 Speaker 3: Up for Mama Maya. 11 00:00:48,485 --> 00:00:52,605 Speaker 1: I'm kateline Brook and you're listening to No Filter. There 12 00:00:52,605 --> 00:00:56,045 Speaker 1: are some roles that transcend the actors who portray them, 13 00:00:56,325 --> 00:01:00,205 Speaker 1: Characters who are so well acted, so funny or groundbreaking, 14 00:01:00,645 --> 00:01:04,045 Speaker 1: who brings something new and exciting to our screens that 15 00:01:04,125 --> 00:01:09,245 Speaker 1: they become in the process iconic. Nick Offerman and Meghan 16 00:01:09,365 --> 00:01:13,725 Speaker 1: Malally are both screen icons for so many people all 17 00:01:13,765 --> 00:01:17,125 Speaker 1: around the world. Nick will always be Ron Swanson from 18 00:01:17,165 --> 00:01:18,205 Speaker 1: Parks and Reck. 19 00:01:18,525 --> 00:01:20,565 Speaker 4: Shut up and look at me. 20 00:01:21,325 --> 00:01:25,605 Speaker 5: Welcome Divisions of Nature. This room has several paintings in it. 21 00:01:25,725 --> 00:01:28,605 Speaker 5: Some are big, some are small. People did them and 22 00:01:28,645 --> 00:01:31,365 Speaker 5: they are here now. Please do not misinterpret the fact 23 00:01:31,405 --> 00:01:34,445 Speaker 5: that I am talking right now as genuine interest in 24 00:01:34,685 --> 00:01:37,885 Speaker 5: art and attempt to discuss it with me further. End 25 00:01:37,885 --> 00:01:38,445 Speaker 5: of speech. 26 00:01:38,845 --> 00:01:43,365 Speaker 1: Megan Malally will always be Karen Walker from Will and 27 00:01:43,405 --> 00:01:44,925 Speaker 1: Grace booked Jack. 28 00:01:45,365 --> 00:01:50,245 Speaker 6: There goes my world, There goes my everything. Just stop worrying. 29 00:01:50,485 --> 00:01:54,925 Speaker 3: Just a maid, Just a maid, Just like saying. 30 00:01:54,605 --> 00:02:00,565 Speaker 6: That Pradas or just shoes or Vodcas, just a morning beverage. 31 00:02:01,245 --> 00:02:03,645 Speaker 1: But there's a shadow side to being so well known 32 00:02:03,685 --> 00:02:05,925 Speaker 1: for one thing you've done as an artist. It can 33 00:02:06,085 --> 00:02:09,685 Speaker 1: eclipse all of the other incredible work you do and 34 00:02:09,725 --> 00:02:12,645 Speaker 1: the art that you create. And that's the thing about 35 00:02:12,725 --> 00:02:17,325 Speaker 1: Nick and Meghan. They are true artists in love and 36 00:02:17,405 --> 00:02:21,285 Speaker 1: in life and in their work. Nick and Meghan met 37 00:02:21,325 --> 00:02:24,725 Speaker 1: on stage twenty five years ago and have been married 38 00:02:24,805 --> 00:02:29,165 Speaker 1: for over two decades. No small feat in Hollywood, in fact, 39 00:02:29,325 --> 00:02:34,205 Speaker 1: nearly impossible, And in these years they have independently produced 40 00:02:34,205 --> 00:02:39,445 Speaker 1: some incredible work. Meghan has graced Broadway stages and is 41 00:02:39,485 --> 00:02:42,885 Speaker 1: one half of a very cool indie band called Nancy 42 00:02:42,965 --> 00:02:54,005 Speaker 1: and Bee. Nick has played searing roles in the Last 43 00:02:54,045 --> 00:02:56,685 Speaker 1: of US and Civil War. Together. They've written a book 44 00:02:56,685 --> 00:03:00,365 Speaker 1: about their marriage and life together called The Greatest Love 45 00:03:00,485 --> 00:03:05,045 Speaker 1: Story Ever Told. And soon they're coming to Australia to 46 00:03:05,085 --> 00:03:07,965 Speaker 1: perform together on stage again in a show they've called 47 00:03:08,325 --> 00:03:12,685 Speaker 1: unscripted and unfiltered. So it's fitting that they'd sit down 48 00:03:12,725 --> 00:03:16,365 Speaker 1: with the executive producer of this show, Naima Brown, for 49 00:03:16,445 --> 00:03:20,725 Speaker 1: a No Filter chat. And you can't say it, but 50 00:03:20,885 --> 00:03:25,125 Speaker 1: Nick apparently joined the call shirtless, much to naim A 51 00:03:25,205 --> 00:03:25,765 Speaker 1: is delight. 52 00:03:27,205 --> 00:03:29,685 Speaker 3: I am so happy to see you both. Nick. 53 00:03:29,725 --> 00:03:31,925 Speaker 7: I feel like, you know, maybe we should all take 54 00:03:31,925 --> 00:03:34,605 Speaker 7: our shirts off and have a really unfiltered conversation. 55 00:03:35,285 --> 00:03:38,445 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, let's make Sitney vivid. 56 00:03:39,045 --> 00:03:43,565 Speaker 7: Let's make Sydney vivid. Megan Molalley, Nick Offerman, welcome to 57 00:03:43,645 --> 00:03:46,485 Speaker 7: No Filter. It is my greatest joy to have you 58 00:03:46,565 --> 00:03:48,325 Speaker 7: here with us today. Thank you. 59 00:03:48,445 --> 00:03:50,725 Speaker 3: We're so happy to be here now. 60 00:03:51,285 --> 00:03:54,485 Speaker 7: Yours is a marriage and a partnership that is really 61 00:03:54,765 --> 00:03:58,325 Speaker 7: forged in creativity. You met a couple decades ago on 62 00:03:58,525 --> 00:04:02,205 Speaker 7: stage together working together in a play. Since that time, 63 00:04:02,285 --> 00:04:06,445 Speaker 7: you have collaborated in so many different ways, and I 64 00:04:06,525 --> 00:04:10,565 Speaker 7: really wanted to begin by asking you each to introduce 65 00:04:10,765 --> 00:04:14,365 Speaker 7: or describe each other creatively. What is it that you 66 00:04:14,445 --> 00:04:17,765 Speaker 7: most admire about each other as an artist? What's your 67 00:04:17,765 --> 00:04:20,205 Speaker 7: favorite work? That each other has done. Nick, I'll start 68 00:04:20,245 --> 00:04:22,245 Speaker 7: with you, tell me what kind of artist Megan is. 69 00:04:23,005 --> 00:04:25,605 Speaker 2: Wow, this is the best question I've ever had in 70 00:04:25,645 --> 00:04:26,285 Speaker 2: an interview. 71 00:04:26,325 --> 00:04:26,685 Speaker 4: Thank you. 72 00:04:28,605 --> 00:04:32,885 Speaker 2: I You know, it would be easy to list what 73 00:04:33,045 --> 00:04:37,845 Speaker 2: Mother Nature has has showered Meghan with by way of gifts. 74 00:04:38,365 --> 00:04:44,845 Speaker 2: Physical beauty, incredible singing voice, ridiculous comedy chops, great intelligence, 75 00:04:45,365 --> 00:04:46,965 Speaker 2: incredible taste. 76 00:04:47,165 --> 00:04:50,765 Speaker 4: In all things with one obvious exception. But I won't. 77 00:04:51,285 --> 00:04:54,725 Speaker 2: I won't rely on the easy laurels of all of 78 00:04:54,765 --> 00:04:58,685 Speaker 2: those attributes because early on, when when I met Meghan 79 00:04:58,725 --> 00:05:03,285 Speaker 2: and began living with her and saw her work in 80 00:05:03,365 --> 00:05:07,805 Speaker 2: her various different mediums, what struck me the most about 81 00:05:07,805 --> 00:05:12,525 Speaker 2: her was her incredible work ethic. Now, you know, if 82 00:05:12,565 --> 00:05:15,245 Speaker 2: you were given the gifts that she was born with, 83 00:05:16,005 --> 00:05:19,405 Speaker 2: I would assume I'd rest easy on my laurels and 84 00:05:19,445 --> 00:05:23,285 Speaker 2: just let people feed me caviar all day. But Megan 85 00:05:23,965 --> 00:05:27,685 Speaker 2: works harder than anyone I've ever seen. Whether she's preparing 86 00:05:27,725 --> 00:05:31,045 Speaker 2: an evening of songs with her band or she's rehearsing 87 00:05:31,085 --> 00:05:32,125 Speaker 2: like a comedy scene. 88 00:05:33,205 --> 00:05:38,285 Speaker 4: She works every spare minute. She keeps working on things. 89 00:05:38,965 --> 00:05:40,965 Speaker 2: You know, when she used to do will and grace, 90 00:05:41,085 --> 00:05:45,125 Speaker 2: she would go into her secret laboratory and work those 91 00:05:45,165 --> 00:05:49,605 Speaker 2: scenes until each one played like an incredible piece of music. 92 00:05:50,125 --> 00:05:54,685 Speaker 2: And so that's my favorite thing about her talents. And 93 00:05:54,765 --> 00:05:58,685 Speaker 2: so we both agree, of all the many great things 94 00:05:58,765 --> 00:06:03,645 Speaker 2: that she's worked at, her performance in the movie from 95 00:06:03,645 --> 00:06:08,125 Speaker 2: a couple of years ago called Dix the Musical is 96 00:06:08,365 --> 00:06:13,365 Speaker 2: the greatest achant known to mankind in the field of entertainment. 97 00:06:13,965 --> 00:06:15,925 Speaker 7: I have this sense he could go on and on 98 00:06:16,365 --> 00:06:19,045 Speaker 7: for even longer. Nick talking about the incredible Megan and 99 00:06:19,085 --> 00:06:20,645 Speaker 7: it's I have to say, I. 100 00:06:20,525 --> 00:06:22,925 Speaker 6: Mean, I wish you had lunch first, because I'm not 101 00:06:22,925 --> 00:06:23,925 Speaker 6: gonna be able to top that. 102 00:06:24,045 --> 00:06:26,565 Speaker 7: Those are hard, that's a hard act to follow. But 103 00:06:26,605 --> 00:06:28,045 Speaker 7: why don't you give it a crack, Meghan? 104 00:06:28,805 --> 00:06:29,005 Speaker 2: Yeah? 105 00:06:29,325 --> 00:06:33,365 Speaker 6: Well, Nick also has so many natural talents. I don't 106 00:06:33,405 --> 00:06:36,405 Speaker 6: know who he thinks he's kidding, trying to pretend otherwise, 107 00:06:36,525 --> 00:06:38,445 Speaker 6: But you know, I think one of the things that's 108 00:06:38,445 --> 00:06:40,445 Speaker 6: so great about Nick too is from the first time 109 00:06:40,485 --> 00:06:43,565 Speaker 6: I met him, he was so different from not just 110 00:06:43,885 --> 00:06:47,005 Speaker 6: other actors, but any men i'd met, because he's so 111 00:06:47,165 --> 00:06:52,765 Speaker 6: centered and secure himself and kind of knew who he was. 112 00:06:53,445 --> 00:06:57,485 Speaker 6: And I think he brings that to his acting and 113 00:06:58,405 --> 00:07:02,285 Speaker 6: he's always like the most popular. I have people, you know, 114 00:07:02,365 --> 00:07:05,525 Speaker 6: like I'll go do a job somewhere and I'll have 115 00:07:05,645 --> 00:07:08,485 Speaker 6: people from the crew coming up to me saying, I 116 00:07:08,525 --> 00:07:11,445 Speaker 6: worked with your husban been on a different project, you know, 117 00:07:11,725 --> 00:07:14,845 Speaker 6: eleven years ago, And I'll never forget how he knew 118 00:07:14,885 --> 00:07:16,925 Speaker 6: every single person on the crew, and he knew all 119 00:07:16,965 --> 00:07:19,605 Speaker 6: of their first and last names, and how many kids 120 00:07:19,685 --> 00:07:22,685 Speaker 6: they have, and you know, all of that stuff. And 121 00:07:22,725 --> 00:07:27,365 Speaker 6: I do think I know that that's that is a 122 00:07:27,525 --> 00:07:30,525 Speaker 6: huge thing. Like I don't know if you understand, but 123 00:07:30,605 --> 00:07:34,285 Speaker 6: a lot of actors don't really pay attention to They 124 00:07:34,325 --> 00:07:37,165 Speaker 6: only pay attention to maybe the other actors and the director, 125 00:07:37,285 --> 00:07:40,045 Speaker 6: but not to everyone. And I think Nick is very 126 00:07:40,085 --> 00:07:44,645 Speaker 6: beloved by all, including me, in addition to his incredible 127 00:07:44,725 --> 00:07:48,045 Speaker 6: gifts as an actor. And he's got that face, he's 128 00:07:48,045 --> 00:07:49,925 Speaker 6: got those eyebrows, let's face. 129 00:07:49,725 --> 00:07:51,965 Speaker 7: It, he's also. 130 00:07:53,645 --> 00:07:56,085 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so it's so delightful. 131 00:07:56,125 --> 00:07:58,245 Speaker 7: I'm so happy to have started and kind of anchored 132 00:07:58,245 --> 00:08:02,165 Speaker 7: this conversation there, because I'm really curious when you are 133 00:08:02,205 --> 00:08:04,805 Speaker 7: in a marriage that is also a creative partnership, but 134 00:08:04,845 --> 00:08:07,005 Speaker 7: then it's also a marriage, and those come with all 135 00:08:07,085 --> 00:08:11,365 Speaker 7: kinds of different things do you have to create And 136 00:08:11,445 --> 00:08:13,925 Speaker 7: over the years, maybe have you gotten better at creating 137 00:08:14,845 --> 00:08:17,725 Speaker 7: boundaries or a kind of separation of church and state, 138 00:08:17,845 --> 00:08:21,165 Speaker 7: you know, when you're creating something together, like your vivid production, 139 00:08:21,965 --> 00:08:24,245 Speaker 7: but then there's still dishes to be done, whatever those 140 00:08:24,285 --> 00:08:28,805 Speaker 7: dishes might be. Metaphorically, how do you kind of tie 141 00:08:28,885 --> 00:08:32,085 Speaker 7: together all the different strands of your relationship. 142 00:08:32,565 --> 00:08:36,285 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I'll jump in and say that we've 143 00:08:36,325 --> 00:08:40,685 Speaker 2: been pretty lucky that organically, you know, it's not like 144 00:08:40,725 --> 00:08:43,485 Speaker 2: we're both working at Wall Street or something where we 145 00:08:43,605 --> 00:08:47,685 Speaker 2: just have a daily, consistent grind and we're like you 146 00:08:48,525 --> 00:08:51,725 Speaker 2: drop the kids off the pool, and you know that 147 00:08:52,445 --> 00:08:56,405 Speaker 2: we have some kind of conflict in that direction because 148 00:08:56,885 --> 00:09:01,645 Speaker 2: we're lucky enough to have different, organic, sporadic jobs. So 149 00:09:02,605 --> 00:09:04,485 Speaker 2: it's you know, one of us will work for a 150 00:09:04,485 --> 00:09:06,525 Speaker 2: few months, one of us will work for a weekend, 151 00:09:06,565 --> 00:09:07,405 Speaker 2: and then we'll switch. 152 00:09:08,085 --> 00:09:10,725 Speaker 4: One of us will work in Europe, one. 153 00:09:10,565 --> 00:09:15,085 Speaker 2: Of us will work at home, and so generally we 154 00:09:15,365 --> 00:09:17,405 Speaker 2: do a good job of just kind of handing off 155 00:09:17,445 --> 00:09:20,765 Speaker 2: and passing the baton back and forth. And sometimes when 156 00:09:20,805 --> 00:09:25,365 Speaker 2: we do something together and collaborate on a show, then 157 00:09:25,605 --> 00:09:29,845 Speaker 2: we have to be a little more conscientious about you know, 158 00:09:30,205 --> 00:09:33,365 Speaker 2: when do we clock out, because we're working on it 159 00:09:33,485 --> 00:09:37,005 Speaker 2: at home in our living space, when do we get 160 00:09:37,005 --> 00:09:41,805 Speaker 2: off the clock and say, okay, let's let's change our 161 00:09:41,805 --> 00:09:43,965 Speaker 2: hats and just watch some TV now. 162 00:09:44,165 --> 00:09:47,125 Speaker 3: A bit like severance, hey, kind of walking walking you're 163 00:09:47,165 --> 00:09:48,405 Speaker 3: Inny and your outing. 164 00:09:49,605 --> 00:09:51,485 Speaker 6: Exactly exactly. 165 00:09:51,805 --> 00:09:56,005 Speaker 7: That's a bit Ana And you've collaborated on so many 166 00:09:56,085 --> 00:09:58,445 Speaker 7: different kinds of things together. You've written one of my 167 00:09:58,485 --> 00:10:01,725 Speaker 7: favorite books, the greatest love story ever told, a bit 168 00:10:01,725 --> 00:10:05,085 Speaker 7: of a it's so great, it is so fantastic. The 169 00:10:05,085 --> 00:10:08,325 Speaker 7: the photography, which I know, Megan, you aren't directed, and 170 00:10:08,365 --> 00:10:11,245 Speaker 7: you know you were the vision and visionary behind just 171 00:10:11,405 --> 00:10:15,125 Speaker 7: the tactile object of the book itself, and it's masterful. 172 00:10:16,085 --> 00:10:17,685 Speaker 3: I will pop links in the show notes. 173 00:10:17,725 --> 00:10:21,325 Speaker 7: It's obviously it's got all of your humor, both of you, 174 00:10:21,565 --> 00:10:23,805 Speaker 7: and a bit of a memoir of your marriage. But 175 00:10:23,845 --> 00:10:26,725 Speaker 7: it's also I think you know, our roadmap for how 176 00:10:26,765 --> 00:10:31,005 Speaker 7: to for people who want to have an empathetic, creative, 177 00:10:31,485 --> 00:10:35,645 Speaker 7: humor filled partnership with somebody. You've also got your podcast 178 00:10:35,685 --> 00:10:39,085 Speaker 7: in Bed with Nick and Meghan, and obviously the production 179 00:10:39,125 --> 00:10:42,525 Speaker 7: that you're bringing to Australia soon I'm curious to know 180 00:10:42,565 --> 00:10:46,365 Speaker 7: how you resolve creative differences when you are in that 181 00:10:46,405 --> 00:10:48,885 Speaker 7: collaborative space together. And Megan, I'll start with you. 182 00:10:50,045 --> 00:10:52,885 Speaker 6: Sometimes I just have to trick Nick into doing things 183 00:10:53,685 --> 00:10:57,165 Speaker 6: like our book. Our book is a good example, because 184 00:10:58,165 --> 00:11:01,765 Speaker 6: we would wrap it up for the day and I'd 185 00:11:01,765 --> 00:11:04,485 Speaker 6: be like, hey, let's do a chapter of our book 186 00:11:04,485 --> 00:11:08,085 Speaker 6: and it could be like you know, and then so 187 00:11:08,165 --> 00:11:11,085 Speaker 6: we recorded the book so by chapter by chapter, so 188 00:11:11,845 --> 00:11:16,765 Speaker 6: family is, you know, career, whatever. Each subject was a 189 00:11:16,805 --> 00:11:21,165 Speaker 6: different chapter, and so I would just say, oh, it'll 190 00:11:21,165 --> 00:11:23,685 Speaker 6: be fun, and he would be resistant. 191 00:11:23,725 --> 00:11:24,605 Speaker 3: I feel like they're. 192 00:11:24,805 --> 00:11:27,205 Speaker 6: They're forgetting what. But I feel like there have been 193 00:11:27,485 --> 00:11:31,045 Speaker 6: a lot of some other times when you are a 194 00:11:31,085 --> 00:11:37,565 Speaker 6: little resistant, and I just kind of sweet talk and 195 00:11:37,605 --> 00:11:42,085 Speaker 6: then trustful once he does it, and once he's doing it, 196 00:11:42,245 --> 00:11:44,045 Speaker 6: he loves it and it's fun. 197 00:11:44,165 --> 00:11:48,085 Speaker 2: I mean, there are many things you like Meghan has. 198 00:11:48,525 --> 00:11:52,405 Speaker 2: There are things if I'm not as experienced or as practiced, 199 00:11:52,565 --> 00:11:55,925 Speaker 2: then then I don't want to do those things. And 200 00:11:55,965 --> 00:11:59,205 Speaker 2: Meghan is a great and gentle teacher and life coach. 201 00:11:59,925 --> 00:12:04,365 Speaker 2: And a good example of that is I am. I'm 202 00:12:04,405 --> 00:12:10,205 Speaker 2: a pretty mediocre singer, but Meghan encouraged me to practice 203 00:12:10,525 --> 00:12:14,925 Speaker 2: and strengthen my voice, and now I'm a slightly less 204 00:12:15,005 --> 00:12:20,565 Speaker 2: mediocre singer, but I have a confidence now to sing 205 00:12:20,605 --> 00:12:23,565 Speaker 2: in front of an audience. And so there are many 206 00:12:23,605 --> 00:12:26,285 Speaker 2: things like that. I mean, we have a real student 207 00:12:26,365 --> 00:12:29,285 Speaker 2: teacher dynamic that I think I would be a fool 208 00:12:29,645 --> 00:12:31,645 Speaker 2: not to be crazy about. 209 00:12:37,805 --> 00:12:40,005 Speaker 7: After this short break, Nick and Meghan talked to us 210 00:12:40,005 --> 00:12:43,205 Speaker 7: about how they maintain curiosity about each other after so 211 00:12:43,365 --> 00:12:46,805 Speaker 7: many years together and how they feel about the characters 212 00:12:46,845 --> 00:12:50,405 Speaker 7: that shut them into the stratosphere. Ron Swanson and Karen 213 00:12:50,445 --> 00:12:58,765 Speaker 7: Walker stay with us. You've been married for over twenty years, 214 00:12:58,805 --> 00:13:01,885 Speaker 7: which is no small feat that takes a lot of 215 00:13:01,925 --> 00:13:05,925 Speaker 7: work and a lot of presence and clarity. And again, 216 00:13:06,165 --> 00:13:10,765 Speaker 7: given the depth and breadth of your many collaborations, and 217 00:13:10,805 --> 00:13:14,845 Speaker 7: that you're so entwined in each other's lives in ways 218 00:13:14,845 --> 00:13:18,405 Speaker 7: that lots of couples aren't. Really, I'm very curious to 219 00:13:18,445 --> 00:13:21,525 Speaker 7: know what you're still discovering about each other and if 220 00:13:21,565 --> 00:13:24,325 Speaker 7: that has to be a kind of deliberate act to 221 00:13:25,205 --> 00:13:27,965 Speaker 7: maintain a kind of curiosity about each other at this 222 00:13:28,165 --> 00:13:31,765 Speaker 7: time and phase, after so many wonderful years Already in 223 00:13:31,805 --> 00:13:32,685 Speaker 7: the camp. 224 00:13:33,165 --> 00:13:35,885 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's been pretty easy really. I mean, 225 00:13:36,085 --> 00:13:40,245 Speaker 6: we don't have children. We have dogs, if that makes 226 00:13:40,245 --> 00:13:45,045 Speaker 6: a difference. We don't have children, but we've always, i think, 227 00:13:45,325 --> 00:13:49,565 Speaker 6: just liked each other, which I know that sounds kind 228 00:13:49,605 --> 00:13:52,805 Speaker 6: of obvious, but I'm not sure that every married couple does, 229 00:13:53,085 --> 00:13:56,125 Speaker 6: or maybe they do. But I think we've been really 230 00:13:56,205 --> 00:14:01,205 Speaker 6: lucky in being we're both very romantic, but we're also 231 00:14:01,685 --> 00:14:06,925 Speaker 6: really good friends. And so I think that recently we 232 00:14:07,125 --> 00:14:09,645 Speaker 6: kind of looked at each other within the law, like 233 00:14:09,685 --> 00:14:14,045 Speaker 6: six months or so, and just sided that we thought 234 00:14:14,125 --> 00:14:18,125 Speaker 6: our relationship was better now than it ever happened. What 235 00:14:18,205 --> 00:14:24,205 Speaker 6: do you attribute to right twenty five years. Well, I'm 236 00:14:24,245 --> 00:14:26,965 Speaker 6: not really sure. Maybe, I mean, we do we've gotten 237 00:14:27,205 --> 00:14:30,685 Speaker 6: a lot better at communicating. We're always pretty good at communicating. 238 00:14:31,405 --> 00:14:34,685 Speaker 4: But what do you think, Conny, I don't know. 239 00:14:34,765 --> 00:14:38,125 Speaker 2: I mean, we had the good fortune to, you know, 240 00:14:38,285 --> 00:14:42,405 Speaker 2: to ride through these two and a half decades together. 241 00:14:43,965 --> 00:14:48,645 Speaker 2: As you know, as good listeners, we understand the simple 242 00:14:48,725 --> 00:14:51,205 Speaker 2: truth that if you make a promise to a person 243 00:14:51,365 --> 00:14:53,445 Speaker 2: that you're going to spend the rest of your lives together, 244 00:14:53,965 --> 00:14:58,165 Speaker 2: you can either make it difficult or when things do 245 00:14:58,205 --> 00:15:01,005 Speaker 2: get difficult. If we have disagreements, if we if we 246 00:15:01,045 --> 00:15:03,685 Speaker 2: shake our fists at each other, we can say, okay, 247 00:15:03,765 --> 00:15:06,405 Speaker 2: well listen, we're I still want to be live in 248 00:15:06,405 --> 00:15:10,245 Speaker 2: this house with you tomorrow, So I can either compromise 249 00:15:10,525 --> 00:15:13,205 Speaker 2: and find a resolution here. And so I think we 250 00:15:13,325 --> 00:15:16,165 Speaker 2: just have the wherewithal to be open and keep growing. 251 00:15:17,005 --> 00:15:20,045 Speaker 2: And I think one thing that really keeps me invested 252 00:15:20,325 --> 00:15:23,845 Speaker 2: is that Megan has not yet allowed me to perform 253 00:15:23,965 --> 00:15:25,645 Speaker 2: the full sex act upon her. 254 00:15:27,805 --> 00:15:30,245 Speaker 4: And so that's kind of a carrot that's dangling. 255 00:15:31,965 --> 00:15:32,125 Speaker 7: John. 256 00:15:33,965 --> 00:15:39,205 Speaker 2: I mean, another twenty five years and I could strugge 257 00:15:39,245 --> 00:15:39,645 Speaker 2: how you go. 258 00:15:40,285 --> 00:15:41,285 Speaker 3: We're rooting for you. 259 00:15:41,725 --> 00:15:45,165 Speaker 7: I want to ask when you've become so iconic and 260 00:15:45,165 --> 00:15:50,485 Speaker 7: beloved to so many audiences across the world for kind 261 00:15:50,485 --> 00:15:54,925 Speaker 7: of one big role that you've played. And yet I 262 00:15:54,925 --> 00:15:58,645 Speaker 7: imagine you get most of your creative fulfillment, especially these days, 263 00:15:58,685 --> 00:16:00,925 Speaker 7: from all of the other incredible things that you both 264 00:16:01,005 --> 00:16:05,885 Speaker 7: do together and separately. And as time passes, does that 265 00:16:05,925 --> 00:16:10,005 Speaker 7: become a burden or something you celebrate with grace? Megan, 266 00:16:10,085 --> 00:16:12,205 Speaker 7: I'll start with you. I'm curious to know what your 267 00:16:12,205 --> 00:16:14,525 Speaker 7: relationship to Karen Walker is now. 268 00:16:15,765 --> 00:16:18,245 Speaker 6: Oh well, I'm grateful to have been able to play 269 00:16:18,245 --> 00:16:22,245 Speaker 6: that role, and it was such a fun part to play, 270 00:16:22,725 --> 00:16:26,645 Speaker 6: of course, and so well written, and they really let 271 00:16:26,685 --> 00:16:30,925 Speaker 6: me bring you know, it was very collaborative, I would say, 272 00:16:31,005 --> 00:16:34,245 Speaker 6: in the way that the part was created, because it 273 00:16:34,325 --> 00:16:37,205 Speaker 6: wasn't written that way at the very beginning. It evolved. 274 00:16:37,805 --> 00:16:41,165 Speaker 6: So it was really really amazing to be able to 275 00:16:41,205 --> 00:16:44,325 Speaker 6: do that. And I sometimes see little clips of it 276 00:16:44,365 --> 00:16:48,125 Speaker 6: and I'm like, wow, how did I do that? But now, 277 00:16:48,285 --> 00:16:53,485 Speaker 6: you know, as the years go on, I always I'm 278 00:16:53,485 --> 00:16:56,045 Speaker 6: not sure that acting was ever like my number one 279 00:16:56,045 --> 00:16:58,805 Speaker 6: thing I wanted to do, Like I always loved singing 280 00:16:58,885 --> 00:17:04,205 Speaker 6: and music. So but that aside, I've I've put less 281 00:17:04,245 --> 00:17:09,165 Speaker 6: emphasis on acting maybe and more emphasis on other things 282 00:17:09,205 --> 00:17:11,805 Speaker 6: like I have a band called Nancy and Beth that 283 00:17:11,925 --> 00:17:16,885 Speaker 6: I love, and I'm starting an interior design company with 284 00:17:16,965 --> 00:17:18,725 Speaker 6: my friend and I love that. 285 00:17:19,285 --> 00:17:20,325 Speaker 3: It's so fun to do. 286 00:17:20,685 --> 00:17:25,485 Speaker 6: And you know, I think I have another a project, 287 00:17:26,125 --> 00:17:28,845 Speaker 6: like a long term project I'm working on that is 288 00:17:29,805 --> 00:17:33,765 Speaker 6: more of a podcast situation, but like a written podcast scripted. 289 00:17:34,205 --> 00:17:38,245 Speaker 6: But yeah, so I think that I want. I like 290 00:17:38,365 --> 00:17:41,405 Speaker 6: things where I feel that I can have more autonomy. 291 00:17:42,165 --> 00:17:45,565 Speaker 6: And that movie that Nick mentioned, Dick's The Musical, I 292 00:17:45,565 --> 00:17:50,245 Speaker 6: felt like it was so collaborative and I was really 293 00:17:50,245 --> 00:17:52,885 Speaker 6: treated as an equal, and you know, you'd be surprised, 294 00:17:52,885 --> 00:17:56,565 Speaker 6: but that's not always the case. So I think things 295 00:17:56,565 --> 00:17:58,245 Speaker 6: where I have a little more autonomy are the things 296 00:17:58,245 --> 00:18:00,365 Speaker 6: I'm a little more drawn to right now. 297 00:18:00,485 --> 00:18:03,365 Speaker 3: Nick, what's your relationship to ron sponson these days? 298 00:18:04,005 --> 00:18:08,085 Speaker 2: You know, I'll always be incredibly grateful for that role. 299 00:18:08,645 --> 00:18:11,805 Speaker 2: I mean, it took me from obscurity to putting me 300 00:18:11,885 --> 00:18:14,765 Speaker 2: sort of on the map and led to so many 301 00:18:14,765 --> 00:18:21,285 Speaker 2: other opportunities, from acting roles to writing books and touring 302 00:18:21,325 --> 00:18:23,005 Speaker 2: as a humorist, and so. 303 00:18:24,485 --> 00:18:28,485 Speaker 4: You know, there are much worse problems. 304 00:18:27,925 --> 00:18:31,085 Speaker 2: To have than to be like associated with one huge, 305 00:18:32,045 --> 00:18:36,285 Speaker 2: overarching role. I'm very grateful that the world allows me 306 00:18:36,445 --> 00:18:41,165 Speaker 2: to play other things and continue to to sort of 307 00:18:41,245 --> 00:18:46,605 Speaker 2: discover and flex whatever muscles I can come across as 308 00:18:46,645 --> 00:18:47,125 Speaker 2: an actor. 309 00:18:47,485 --> 00:18:51,005 Speaker 4: But ultimately, you know, I'm just really grateful. 310 00:18:51,165 --> 00:18:54,205 Speaker 2: Like it's just getting a job as an actor is 311 00:18:54,245 --> 00:18:57,325 Speaker 2: like winning the lottery. So getting one that resonates with 312 00:18:57,445 --> 00:19:01,125 Speaker 2: people and that I would watch and be entertained by 313 00:19:01,725 --> 00:19:05,685 Speaker 2: myself is I don't know, winning the triple lottery or something, 314 00:19:05,805 --> 00:19:09,085 Speaker 2: So I would I would be happy to shake Ron's 315 00:19:09,125 --> 00:19:11,445 Speaker 2: hand and then serve him mistake. 316 00:19:11,325 --> 00:19:12,165 Speaker 4: If he showed up? 317 00:19:16,165 --> 00:19:18,005 Speaker 3: Aren't Nick and Meghan wonderful? 318 00:19:18,885 --> 00:19:21,405 Speaker 7: Look If Parks and Recreation and Will and Grace are 319 00:19:21,405 --> 00:19:25,045 Speaker 7: the only exposure you've had to them, you are really 320 00:19:25,085 --> 00:19:27,565 Speaker 7: in for a treat when you start to explore the 321 00:19:27,765 --> 00:19:31,125 Speaker 7: great breadth of their work. And Nick and Meghan will 322 00:19:31,125 --> 00:19:34,205 Speaker 7: be performing together in Australia in June. Will pop all 323 00:19:34,245 --> 00:19:36,645 Speaker 7: the links that you need to book tickets and other 324 00:19:36,685 --> 00:19:39,965 Speaker 7: little bits and bobs in the show notes. The executive 325 00:19:40,005 --> 00:19:42,645 Speaker 7: producer of No Filter is me Naima Brown. 326 00:19:43,045 --> 00:19:46,965 Speaker 3: Our senior producer is Grace Rufrey. Sound design is by 327 00:19:47,045 --> 00:19:49,485 Speaker 3: Jacob Brown and Kate ling Brook. Will be back in 328 00:19:49,485 --> 00:19:51,605 Speaker 3: your ears on Monday. Thank you for listening.