WEBVTT - How To Master Matching Sets (Without Looking Like PJs)

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, and welcome to Nothing to It, the podcast that

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<v Speaker 2>solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee Campbell,

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<v Speaker 2>and every week I talk to an expert who helps

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<v Speaker 2>us work out how to get more out of the

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<v Speaker 2>clothes we already own and tells us exactly what is

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<v Speaker 2>and isn't worth adding to our wardrobe.

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<v Speaker 1>What if I told you.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a fashion hack that could simplify your wardrobe, take

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<v Speaker 2>the stress out of planning outfits, and makes shopping feel

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<v Speaker 2>less of at are Well, there is one. It's set dressing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they're called matching coords or just separates or sets,

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<v Speaker 2>but they are back and it's not just about being casual.

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<v Speaker 2>There's options for travel, there's options for going out, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's even options for workwear. So joining me today to

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<v Speaker 2>talk all things co boreds and sets is the Queen

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<v Speaker 2>of effortless style page Carmichael Page is a fashion content

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<v Speaker 2>creator and influencer, and she has a decade of experience

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<v Speaker 2>in marketing for global fashion brands, as well as being

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<v Speaker 2>a hilarious fashion powerhouse on Instagram herself. So this episode,

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<v Speaker 2>Paige and I are going to chat about how to

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<v Speaker 2>mix and match separates, what to look for, how many

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<v Speaker 2>pockets we need in a piece, and everything in between.

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<v Speaker 1>My friend Page, Hi, welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen you for a while, but we've worked

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<v Speaker 2>together many moons ago in different worlds. Yes, past lives,

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<v Speaker 2>past lives, and now you are the best. We've always

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<v Speaker 2>been the best. But your Instagram is so helpful and

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<v Speaker 2>so fun, and we're going to talk about some of

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<v Speaker 2>that in a minute. But first I need you to

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<v Speaker 2>describe your style in three words.

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<v Speaker 1>First word, Lee would be constipated. And I say that

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<v Speaker 1>because style fashion it's not something that comes naturally to me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lie. But continue it doesn't, and it's something

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<v Speaker 1>that when I wake up every day I have to

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<v Speaker 1>push for. I see, I see, And I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>This was the first word that I love it and

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<v Speaker 1>I never I can tell you, in the history of

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast, we've never had this. Okay, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but

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<v Speaker 1>that would be it. And I think since working in

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<v Speaker 1>fashion retail, it's gotten easier. But I really envy those

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<v Speaker 1>people whose word is like effortless. I will never be

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<v Speaker 1>one of those people.

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<v Speaker 2>However, I believe they want to be effortless, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>putting an effort behind the scenes to look effortless.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's what I think.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, so maybe you start constipated, but then you're

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<v Speaker 2>unblocked and.

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<v Speaker 1>You look effortless. Yeah that's the dream.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Wow, we need to invent like a medicine that

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<v Speaker 2>unconstipates your fashion, please do podcast is word number.

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<v Speaker 1>Two number two versatile because my style very much depends

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<v Speaker 1>on where I am in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you travel a lot, you live in Queensland, your

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<v Speaker 2>partner's from the UK.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, always in Sydney. Always in Sydney, and I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like the style is quite different between those three places.

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<v Speaker 1>And then of course it depends on what I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, it's mostly where I am. I've just got

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<v Speaker 1>back from the UK, so style there's very functional, it's

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<v Speaker 1>very cold at the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you say versatile, then you try and make

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<v Speaker 2>your wardrobe work in different places, but it's how you

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<v Speaker 2>put it together for where you go exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And just being in the UK recently it was five

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<v Speaker 1>degrees and I wore a dish dress, but underneath the

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<v Speaker 1>dishtress I had thermals smart so I could still wear

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<v Speaker 1>those pieces. Firstile love, that's second word. I'm intrigued by

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<v Speaker 1>number three. What is it? Number three is comfortable And

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<v Speaker 1>I say that because at the very start of my

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<v Speaker 1>career I worked for a very controversial lingerie company, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>where we were required to wear lingerie under sheer, blousers,

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<v Speaker 1>high heels, and a full face makeup every single day. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And in a corporation of like hundreds of people. I

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<v Speaker 1>sat directly opposite the CEO, so what I wore every

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<v Speaker 1>day was scrutinized. And I remember one day even coming

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<v Speaker 1>in in a Shabbari bra, which is essentially a rope

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<v Speaker 1>oh and after and a top on toop. No, actually no,

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<v Speaker 1>the bra was kind of like the top o, the rope,

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<v Speaker 1>it was all there. Wow, So but you were uncomforted.

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<v Speaker 1>I was uncomfortable. So after I left that job, and

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<v Speaker 1>especially as I've started becoming more freelance life it's comfort

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<v Speaker 1>is something that I won't compromise on. Agreed, everyone's to

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<v Speaker 1>day when you're uncomfortable. It does, Yeah, it really does.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, next question before we get into the topic, is

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<v Speaker 2>ten percent of your ordrobe you wear ninety percent of

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<v Speaker 2>the time. So the stuff that's on high rotation, the

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<v Speaker 2>poor ninety percent sitting in the back. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like you're pretty good at this, But what's in

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<v Speaker 2>your ten percent you're most worn, you're most reached for.

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<v Speaker 1>So ten percent of my wardrobe would be sets coords.

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<v Speaker 1>And I say that because the sets drown in comparison

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<v Speaker 1>to the amount of dresses I own. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>dresses are very easy to buy and impulse buy because

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<v Speaker 1>there's always an occasion, there's always an trend, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>one and done. It's one and done and it's great.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I'm always reaching for are the sets.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, whether that's together, I'll mixed to match exactly, let's

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<v Speaker 2>jump straight into it. So sets, coords, whatever you want

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<v Speaker 2>to call them, matching bits and pieces are more popular

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<v Speaker 2>than ever before.

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<v Speaker 1>Much to me is dismayed. She feels like they're on

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<v Speaker 1>the way out. They are not.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you're a fan, So let's talk about set dressing.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you always loved sets, whatever you want to call them,

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<v Speaker 1>I love them personally because you'll find a set to

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<v Speaker 1>compliment your style, whatever it is. I feel like you'll

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<v Speaker 1>also find a set to match a trend. I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of animal print sets, a lot of buddy

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<v Speaker 1>yellow sets at the moment, buddy yellow, Oh my gosh. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also feel like there is a set for

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<v Speaker 1>every occasion, whether you're just working from home and you

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<v Speaker 1>lounge wess set, or you've got big business meeting and

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<v Speaker 1>you want to dress up a little bit. Suit is

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<v Speaker 1>a set?

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<v Speaker 2>Ah That was basically my next question. It's like you've

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<v Speaker 2>done this before. So I've traditionally thought of sets as, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, relatively affordable brands. It's usually shorts or a

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<v Speaker 2>palazzo pant and a shirt, and they're usually printed. They're

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<v Speaker 2>the sets I traditionally sort of had in my wardrobe

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<v Speaker 2>until recently, and the times I put them on, my

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<v Speaker 2>five year old said, Mummy, you can't take me to

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<v Speaker 2>school on your pajamas.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you wearing your pajamas? So how do we

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<v Speaker 1>avoid that? In that case, you would dress it up

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<v Speaker 1>with a heel, a beautiful hambag. It's all in styling,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>And also maybe if you're not into sets yet and

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want to look like on your pjs, don't

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<v Speaker 2>go for printed because I think sometimes it's the prints

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<v Speaker 2>that can make it feel a bit PJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, yeah, maybe block colors and the material as well.

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<v Speaker 1>The SATs knee set, yeah, that is reminiscent ofjama.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I think of sets, that's what I think

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<v Speaker 2>of straight away. But obviously it's broadened so much lately

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<v Speaker 2>that you can get absolutely everything. What do you look

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<v Speaker 2>for in a colword set? Do you like them to

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<v Speaker 2>literally come in a set with this one price? Do

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<v Speaker 2>you like to buy the top and bottom set set?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you a skirt? Are you a pant? What are

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<v Speaker 2>you looking for? What are your favorite sets at home?

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<v Speaker 2>What's so great about them?

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<v Speaker 1>It depends on the occasion. I have some really extra

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<v Speaker 1>pj's style sets that's great for a special occasion, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>especially with feather trims and all that fun style. A

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<v Speaker 1>help and a heel, but day to day it has

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<v Speaker 1>to be hard working. It has to fit into my lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's one set in particular, the moment that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>literally wearing every second day, not together but as separate. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a pin stripe short and shirt set, like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, very big in summer. But I just love

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<v Speaker 1>with the shorts at the moment. I'm wearing them with

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<v Speaker 1>an oversized tee, a tank with my swimwear when I

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<v Speaker 1>go to the beach, and then with a shirt Nimble,

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<v Speaker 1>Sydney based female founder brand beautiful so great. Yes, And

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<v Speaker 1>the shirt is great because it looks like a regular

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<v Speaker 1>button up shirt, but it is perfect for travel. It's

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<v Speaker 1>crease resistant, this particular shirt that I'm loving. It's got

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<v Speaker 1>little holes under the arms for breatheability. And the step

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<v Speaker 1>combined has five pockets.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say pockets. That's what I look for

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<v Speaker 2>for some reason. I mean, I want pockets in everything.

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<v Speaker 2>But if it's a dress, I'm like, all right, fine.

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<v Speaker 2>But if there's shorts and they don't have pockets, that

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<v Speaker 2>should be illegal.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolute and they need to be d pockets. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>need to be able to put things in there, like

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<v Speaker 1>my lip balm or my keys or I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know what, but I'm on that absolutely. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you buy a set and you wear them separately.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a question I have, which is quite a niche,

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<v Speaker 2>but it came up on another episode. My friend Amy

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<v Speaker 2>Star said, when she wears sets separately, she still washes

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<v Speaker 2>them together, so they wash and wear at the same rate.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's not like the top gets like older. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously the shorts are still brand new.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you do that? No, but I need to do

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<v Speaker 1>that right now because I have that problem that these,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly the shorts, because it's been so hot, I'm wearing

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<v Speaker 1>the shorts more than the shirt, and there's a slight

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<v Speaker 1>color variation. Isn't that clever? That is so clear? So

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<v Speaker 1>she says, wash it like its address. She's smart, I

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<v Speaker 1>know she. That's so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>So obviously the joy of a set is you're getting

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<v Speaker 2>one look at two pieces. How do we get the

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<v Speaker 2>most out of mixing and matching obviously depends on what

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<v Speaker 2>the pieces are. Are they printed, are they whatever? And it's

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<v Speaker 2>obvious to go jeans with the shirt, white tea. Talk

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<v Speaker 2>to me about how you get the absolute most out

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<v Speaker 2>of both pieces.

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<v Speaker 1>Easiest possible way. If you're looking at your own wardrobe

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<v Speaker 1>right now in the warmer months, it's great to mix

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<v Speaker 1>and matches sets with linen. So yesterday I had a

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<v Speaker 1>lunch data Bistro c with my partner and NSA darling

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<v Speaker 1>and I was wearing half of a palm Noosa coored.

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<v Speaker 1>It was beautiful, quite a loud printed pants and I

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<v Speaker 1>just paired it back with just a linen white shirt

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<v Speaker 1>in my wardrobe been there for years.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, I'm going to put you on the spot,

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<v Speaker 2>my friend page, because I bore a cord set for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you would, but that's okay. I have I've

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<v Speaker 1>worn the top of a corn Oh, but I have

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<v Speaker 1>paed back with the denim. Yeah, that does as I

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<v Speaker 1>really like it. Well, see if I wore this with

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<v Speaker 1>the pants, it actually is a pajama top. But all

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<v Speaker 1>the cool girls in London are just wearing them.

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<v Speaker 2>Collar okay, so well for people that aren't in the studio,

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<v Speaker 2>which is everyone, I am wearing a Maxi skirt knitted

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<v Speaker 2>that's kind of ribbed and it's light blue and khaki.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the cardigan. It's a long sleeve cardigan with

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<v Speaker 2>the collar and buttons. Yes, how do we get the

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<v Speaker 2>most out of this guy?

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<v Speaker 1>I think you would have to stay within that fabrication,

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<v Speaker 1>so I would maybe put a knitted like, but stay

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<v Speaker 1>in the neutrals. Yeah, stay within that color family. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>an oversized blazer, oh yeah, exactly cool. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes we overcomplicate things. A pair of jeans exactly and

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<v Speaker 1>a pair of jeans with that, or a trench over

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<v Speaker 1>the top of that set. We both love a trench,

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<v Speaker 1>don't we. I mean, is yeah? Perfect?

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<v Speaker 2>Now I want to talk about your style more broadly

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<v Speaker 2>because I feel like everything I see on Instagram, obviously

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<v Speaker 2>you're over your constipation.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got an outfit on.

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<v Speaker 2>And you always feel very harmonious, which I guess is

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a version of sort of matching. Like I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like it's very thought out. Do you aim for that?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you plan your outfits? How do you get dressed?

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<v Speaker 2>You try and think about it the night before, because

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<v Speaker 2>for the people looking at your Instagram, they don't know

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<v Speaker 2>your fashion constipated. You're always very harmonious.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. That's a huge compliment coming from you. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate it. It's very thought out. Because I travel

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, I actually have a system for packing where

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<v Speaker 1>I get out all of my clothes, I think that,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, and then I try them all on mix

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<v Speaker 1>and match them. I take a photo of that complete look,

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<v Speaker 1>including accessories, and then I save it in an album

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<v Speaker 1>for that trip. So by the time, exactly by the

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<v Speaker 1>time I get there, instead of looking at my suitcase

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<v Speaker 1>overwhelmed and thinking I've nothing to wear, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>go out and buy something, I've already got all of

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<v Speaker 1>my outfits in there. Like clueless comes up on the screen.

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<v Speaker 1>There's when I.

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<v Speaker 2>Lows my mind. I pack like a raging toddle of

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<v Speaker 2>the night before. So well then it's thought out and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm guessing. Back to travel, you take a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>sets because of the versatility.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of sets, a lot of sets because travel

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<v Speaker 1>is my work in a way. I'm constantly in one

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<v Speaker 1>particular set, which is just an elevated lounge were set.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's one set that I have worn for over

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and eighty hours long haul in the past

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen months alone. Okay, wow, and thet I've worn it

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, and apparently it was designed just to be

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<v Speaker 1>worn to and from yoga, and I was like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is so comfortable. I could wreak it to the other

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<v Speaker 1>side of the world and then do yoga. It's another

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<v Speaker 1>nimble number, but okay, you like a nimbo. It's I

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<v Speaker 1>just think it's comfy, but it's stylish. It's just key

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<v Speaker 1>for long haul travel. And then you throw over a

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<v Speaker 1>trench a cat, you know, your beautiful suitcase and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's chic, very comfortable. So when that plane bloat here, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're all good. Totally.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to ask because sets are matching, right, So

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<v Speaker 2>we're wearing a set, But then the whole other world

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<v Speaker 2>of fashion is kind of like clashing or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong shoe theory. Copenhagen Fashion Week is all about

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that doesn't go together, that kind of goes together,

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<v Speaker 2>where as sets very much of the opposite of that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like this is on purpose to all match. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>can someone have both styles? Do you think or how

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<v Speaker 2>do you feel about that?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you? I'm sure some people can. I've seen it,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, I've seen the clashing print. My mom

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<v Speaker 1>the other day just all she didn't mean to. She

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<v Speaker 1>came out of the beach and she was just wearing

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<v Speaker 1>all these different prints. That's cool. It didn't but you

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<v Speaker 1>know cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, but but you know the Copenhagen like the

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<v Speaker 2>sheer skirt with the biker jacket, then the weird shoes.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're kind of two streams happening in fashion right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So are you definitely not that clashing one? No, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's all about confidence, isn't it the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, Like some of these girls you see,

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<v Speaker 1>especially you know, you were just Europlashtar, I was just there.

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<v Speaker 1>If you walk down the street with confidence and you

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<v Speaker 1>are literally wearing pajamas, but two different pajama sets, and

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<v Speaker 1>you've got confidence, then go for it. Yeah me personally, No.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, the harmonious yes, okay. Materials. Do you avoid synthetics?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you try and go for natural fabric?

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<v Speaker 1>I try to, but the heart wants what the heart wants.

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<v Speaker 1>If I see a set that I love that print,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'll make it. I'll sweat, Yeah, totallyat, And

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<v Speaker 1>you might wear, you know, the shorts with the cotton tank.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think, not just sets, but in all my

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<v Speaker 1>clothes for longevity, I always look for natural fabrics your cottons, Lina.

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<v Speaker 1>It's especially living in a hot place. Denim that's best.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>Always that okay, But yeah, I've bought some really cute,

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<v Speaker 2>affordable sets with them.

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<v Speaker 1>The top. I'm like two.

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<v Speaker 2>Shitzy, so I try and look at fabrication, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>the same sets for different occasions. What do you look

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<v Speaker 2>for in a set for travel?

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<v Speaker 1>Travel knitted? What color like? I wouldn't wear black on

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<v Speaker 1>a plane because lint sticks to it. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I love on a plane? I love it's a zip top,

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<v Speaker 1>so that if you need that extra warmth, you can

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<v Speaker 1>zip up. If not, that half zip is really good.

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<v Speaker 1>Take it down.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, good a set for the weekend, what are you

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<v Speaker 2>looking for? Describe it to me?

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<v Speaker 1>Something fun. I might go all out and wear a

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<v Speaker 1>feather trim set girls drinks.

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<v Speaker 2>My next one was going out like that's probably that

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<v Speaker 2>weekend you know markets brunch? Is that like a cute

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<v Speaker 2>little shorts and short sleeve shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have to go for a short and shirt set,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when you just put like a tank underneath,

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<v Speaker 1>just to break it up. I think that's what we

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<v Speaker 1>haven't talked about. Double denim. That's by far again. Another

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorites that I've been wearing on repeat

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<v Speaker 1>is a denim set. But it's made from cotton, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's like denim look, but it's lighter like a chambre almost. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I got one. I don't know how to

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<v Speaker 1>pronounce it. Sarah's Life set.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that, Yes, yes, And it's a short sleeve

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<v Speaker 2>shirt and a shorts but not too short paperbag waist

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<v Speaker 2>and I wear them both separately and I love them, to.

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<v Speaker 1>Love them, and if you just break it up with

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<v Speaker 1>the tank, I feel like we've both got the same

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<v Speaker 1>inner Pelly Tang. Yes, yes, a little logo. I still

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<v Speaker 1>love that. I know that that was big last year,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's just adds a little something.

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<v Speaker 2>Denim's sets are great to pack for travel because they

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<v Speaker 2>just literally go with everything. Okay, you've said going out,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's your like sex and the city stuff. Yes, wow, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so there's sets for more occasions. It's funny because I

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<v Speaker 2>did think straight away, oh sets like yeah, linen shorts

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<v Speaker 2>and a linen shirt, but it's so much more than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I just came from a meeting and both of

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<v Speaker 1>the other girls were wearing one part of a set.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, maybe they got changed in the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very expensive. How wondre the percent? All right?

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<v Speaker 2>My friend paid the best part Foushian budget, So we've

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<v Speaker 2>both brought a set. You're going to do your budget

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<v Speaker 2>set first, so you're wearing the top.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Damse and matter is I've never heard of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a London based slow fashion brand. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is in fact pajamas. Yes, because that big collar is

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<v Speaker 1>very in right now. Yes, the big collar is in.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I love about it is it's quite unique.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if I walk out into the street, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to see anyone else.

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<v Speaker 2>I like it, but it looks like you work at

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<v Speaker 2>a candy store or something because it's like a burgundy

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<v Speaker 2>and white stripe and then it's got a frilly lollypink

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<v Speaker 2>collar and some bows.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very cool. There's a lot going on and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's that sort of Copenhagen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's very fashion. What are the bottoms like, because

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<v Speaker 2>you're wearing jeans at that now.

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<v Speaker 1>The bottoms are straight pajamas. That's the stripe. Yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm wearing jeans now and I've got a gold

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<v Speaker 1>heel on. I think what makes the top pop is

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<v Speaker 1>some gold, chunky jewelry gold shoe. Like the jeans. I

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<v Speaker 1>would not wear the pants out, although I have seen

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<v Speaker 1>London girls wearing the pants with the top that I

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<v Speaker 1>just couldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you wear the pants with like a white tea

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<v Speaker 2>or is that still too no?

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<v Speaker 1>That would literally look like I was getting into bed.

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<v Speaker 1>So for you, the bottoms are pajamas and the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>goinga so I actually wore them on Christmas Day in England.

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<v Speaker 1>So I bought this in December and I've worn it

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<v Speaker 1>at least five or six times in England and in Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's cotton, looks very like it. So do you

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<v Speaker 1>know the price roughly? So it's about eighty five pounds

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<v Speaker 1>for this set, but it's available on the Iconic and

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<v Speaker 1>it's on sale stop the Iconic, Yes, and it's slow

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<v Speaker 1>fashion so they only do limited drops. It's all organic cotton,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just love the ethos behind the brand. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful brand. I love hearing about a brand I've

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<v Speaker 1>not heard of, So thank you, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>My set is sold separately, so the top and the bottoms,

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<v Speaker 2>or you could just buy one or the other. Obviously

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<v Speaker 2>there's no police going to make you buy both. From

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<v Speaker 2>the Cuba, it's the aline embroidered shirt which is one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and twenty bucks, or if you're remember one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and seven and page. Let me show you on my computer.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a.

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<v Speaker 2>Sheer, meshy short sleeve shirt. De Cuba is killing it.

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<v Speaker 2>I bought a set last year to wear like a

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<v Speaker 2>little macrame kind of skirt and shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>I love them both. I wear them separately. I should

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<v Speaker 1>have won that today. That's chea.

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<v Speaker 2>So this has got you know. It's an oversized shirt.

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<v Speaker 2>It's quite sheer and you'd wear like a bra or

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<v Speaker 2>a tank short sleeves, and then like big applicuet flowers

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<v Speaker 2>that's the top. And then if you want to wear

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<v Speaker 2>it together, the lane embroidered pant is a long sheer pants.

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<v Speaker 1>How cool are they?

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<v Speaker 2>So?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that you could mix a match more

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<v Speaker 1>than the set that you're wearing totally.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, this would be so easy to mix

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<v Speaker 2>and match. And so the pants are again one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and twenty dollars and they're just so beautiful. They've got

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<v Speaker 2>little shorts in them, like the shorts lining so that

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<v Speaker 2>you're not sheer showing your bum. It's just such a

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful applice like white looking very resort. But you could

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<v Speaker 2>mix and match it and make it very evening.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And I feel like, that's a good price point

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<v Speaker 1>considering how much detail is in that set.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and we'll just get one or the other. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get both. What's bougie.

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<v Speaker 1>My bougie is the Sleeper set. So if you know

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<v Speaker 1>they're known for their so the brand is called Sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>it's called Sleeper, and they are known for their iconic

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<v Speaker 1>feather trim, so feathers around the cuffs and around the ankles.

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<v Speaker 1>Surely I think I've got a set that I was given.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got to be real silk for that price, or

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<v Speaker 1>is it that it depends? There as silk sets, there's

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<v Speaker 1>cotton sets, there's linen sets. They do a whole race.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not realize. Yes, And I love them because

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<v Speaker 1>they're just really special occasions. So if you've got a

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<v Speaker 1>special event, we don't want to compromise on comfort. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to have a great time, you want to drink.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Like wearing a suit, but it's not a structured it's

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<v Speaker 2>like a bottom, yea bottom and top. How do you

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<v Speaker 2>launder those with the feathers? Are they removable?

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<v Speaker 1>I have not launded them. Surely they just air them

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<v Speaker 1>them A slight champagne smell never hurt anybody. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>And do you know the price of those? I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're expensive. So sets you back around seven hundred, eight

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars. However, said you fifty sales, so currently they

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<v Speaker 1>have a fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Cells and as a thrifter and online shop, I see

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<v Speaker 2>them a lot of time on secondhand website, so there's

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<v Speaker 2>like a good resale value and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, I actually got a feather number from Deep Pop.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually what color? Black? No, this was the thing. So

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<v Speaker 1>Kate Moss has been seen wearing their black set as separates,

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<v Speaker 1>which is bold, so it's like feather pants. And she's

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<v Speaker 1>seen coming out of some business meeting in a blazer

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<v Speaker 1>in the feather pants. Oh that's she, yeah, she. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Margot Robbie has been spotted wearing the pink one

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<v Speaker 1>but as a set. Who when she did when she

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<v Speaker 1>did Barbie? So but me personally, I've got the latest

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<v Speaker 1>mocka moose. I would love one crown at the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm just like it's gorgeous, Okay, my next one

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<v Speaker 1>again all sorts.

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<v Speaker 2>There's three items. Should you like to get a drink?

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<v Speaker 2>I know so Victoria and Woods. I adore quite an

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<v Speaker 2>expensive brand if you're gonna get everything, but you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to. So let's start with the top. It's got

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<v Speaker 2>the Fury top. It's a logo print strapless knit top.

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<v Speaker 2>Children twenty dollars for the top. Wow, it's like a

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<v Speaker 2>boob tube, quite longline, white based with like a navy

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<v Speaker 2>geometric prints.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the top. How is it? Three princes?

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<v Speaker 2>You just wait, my friend. Then the pants are well,

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<v Speaker 2>same print, but they're also a knit, so would be

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<v Speaker 2>really good for travel. The Cirrus Pant logo print, wide

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<v Speaker 2>leg knit pant three hundred and fifty dollars just for

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<v Speaker 2>the but there are knits, so it could be good

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<v Speaker 2>for travel. I mean the print is very out there,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's very much there's those pants, there's that toss, but.

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<v Speaker 1>I very hate blue. Is it blue?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's a white base with like a blue geometric

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<v Speaker 2>shape on it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's very coolly.

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<v Speaker 2>And then if you want to go full look, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a bomber jacket. The Insomnia Cardi logo print cardigan two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and ninety dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I thought you're going to say like a short

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<v Speaker 1>or a there's a whole look bomber.

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<v Speaker 2>So you could always do like the knitted pants and

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<v Speaker 2>bomber for travel if you want it or whatever. And

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<v Speaker 2>then that top is so beautiful, like I imagine that boobtube

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<v Speaker 2>top with a white.

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<v Speaker 1>Linen skirt, linen shorts, denim. I think at this point

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<v Speaker 1>I'd probably just get the top because also, all up,

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<v Speaker 1>that's about one thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>But I love Victorian Woods, and just researching this episode

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<v Speaker 2>really made me realize how many separates as dish calls

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<v Speaker 2>at all coords there are. There's so much more than

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<v Speaker 2>I ever thought.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And I think if you want somewhere to start,

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<v Speaker 1>look to your favorite brands that have the style you like,

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<v Speaker 1>have the fabrications you like, because chances are they do

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<v Speaker 1>a set.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and just go on the website and find that

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<v Speaker 2>category which I've never really looked for.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I love that as a bomber. I've never seen

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<v Speaker 1>a bomber set. I really want that top.

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<v Speaker 2>That's cool page. I love having you here. You're funny,

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<v Speaker 2>you're hilarious. I know you live Anoosa, so maybe we'll

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<v Speaker 2>fly out to record next time. Otherwise, will you come

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<v Speaker 2>back down.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to. It's been a pleasure. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, for joining me.

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