WEBVTT - A Dangerous Influencer Trend & Scurrilous Lip-Reading Gossip 0:00:08.193 --> 0:00:10.914 You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. 0:00:16.034 --> 0:00:18.714 Hello and welcome to MoMA Mia out Loud. It's what 0:00:18.754 --> 0:00:22.234 women are actually talking about On Wednesday, the eighteenth of March. 0:00:22.634 --> 0:00:26.314 I'm Holly Wainwright and we have some big news that 0:00:26.474 --> 0:00:30.594 was embargoed until nine am today. Who wants to share it? 0:00:31.514 --> 0:00:33.394 Holly? I kind of think you have to be the 0:00:33.394 --> 0:00:36.714 one to share it. I think you get statistically the 0:00:36.754 --> 0:00:37.754 most credit for it. 0:00:37.833 --> 0:00:41.313 Oh okay, we are, for the second month in a row, 0:00:41.434 --> 0:00:45.354 the most listened to podcast in all of the land. 0:00:45.913 --> 0:00:46.954 In the whole king. 0:00:47.193 --> 0:00:51.034 They have been telling like people who don't need to 0:00:51.074 --> 0:00:53.673 know this fact, this fact Like I was at the 0:00:53.794 --> 0:00:56.314 supermarket and I went into that you know, the line 0:00:56.314 --> 0:00:59.434 where you get to talk to a person versus scanning. 0:01:00.034 --> 0:01:03.594 Like I managed to work it in. I'm Amilia Lasta. 0:01:03.674 --> 0:01:04.313 By the way. 0:01:04.474 --> 0:01:07.274 You may know me from Australia's Number one podcast. It's 0:01:07.274 --> 0:01:09.794 funny because in the office you act very nonchalant about 0:01:09.834 --> 0:01:14.074 it on the number one whatever, I mean number one before. 0:01:14.394 --> 0:01:17.114 Well, I'm not on Fridays, so I feel like I 0:01:17.154 --> 0:01:18.274 can't take full crew. 0:01:18.634 --> 0:01:20.034 Come on now, and who are you? 0:01:20.354 --> 0:01:20.634 Oh? 0:01:20.714 --> 0:01:23.114 I'm clos Stephen definitely taking credit. 0:01:23.234 --> 0:01:25.314 I get a little bit of credit now, Yeah, I 0:01:25.314 --> 0:01:28.794 will be rubbing it in Jesse's face saying we're number 0:01:28.834 --> 0:01:31.234 one without you, even though she was on the episodes. 0:01:31.274 --> 0:01:32.834 But whatever, I'll find a way to read. 0:01:32.954 --> 0:01:34.594 The chart comes out once a month, if you wondered 0:01:34.634 --> 0:01:37.354 what we're talking about, the podcast chart, and for the 0:01:37.394 --> 0:01:39.354 second month in a row, we are at number one. 0:01:39.394 --> 0:01:41.314 Sometimes we're number two, sometimes we're number three, but not 0:01:41.394 --> 0:01:45.034 anymore anyway, let's move on. It's not about us, yes, 0:01:45.674 --> 0:01:49.194 n b D. Here is what's on our agenda for today. 0:01:50.074 --> 0:01:54.154 Queen Mary is touring Australia. Yes, the woman wants known 0:01:54.194 --> 0:01:58.314 as Our Mary is coming to Royal Meat and greets 0:01:58.354 --> 0:02:01.754 near you. So why isn't anybody talking about it? 0:02:02.394 --> 0:02:06.354 Plus you're seeing peptides all over your socials, and we 0:02:06.674 --> 0:02:09.114 went to find out what they actually are and why 0:02:09.314 --> 0:02:12.833 the trend of injecting them is really dangerous. 0:02:12.633 --> 0:02:15.754 And why reference man might be making you cold. 0:02:17.674 --> 0:02:20.474 But first, I'm bringing some scoreless gossips. Some of it 0:02:20.554 --> 0:02:24.234 is oscars related, because you know, we're still mopping. 0:02:23.994 --> 0:02:26.914 Up the little bits. 0:02:26.634 --> 0:02:30.674 Of that poor one out for Timothy Challa may As. 0:02:30.714 --> 0:02:32.754 We have talked about a lot on the show. He 0:02:32.794 --> 0:02:36.513 didn't win the oscar on Monday. In fact, he lost it, 0:02:37.114 --> 0:02:39.794 and forty eight hours after the event, we now know 0:02:40.074 --> 0:02:42.034 just how mad he was about the whole I'm not 0:02:42.074 --> 0:02:44.074 going to win the Oscar today thing, because it was 0:02:44.154 --> 0:02:46.314 kind of clear by the time he sat down. The 0:02:46.354 --> 0:02:49.194 reason we know this is because a lip reader has 0:02:49.354 --> 0:02:51.994 translated what he was saying to Kylie Jenna when he 0:02:52.034 --> 0:02:54.394 was sitting in his seat and he was like, his 0:02:54.514 --> 0:02:57.594 leg was jiggling, he was smiling, but he looked. 0:02:57.874 --> 0:02:59.594 Like, oh kill me now. 0:02:59.714 --> 0:03:02.034 And indeed that's what he said, because according to the 0:03:02.034 --> 0:03:03.194 lip reader, he said. 0:03:03.434 --> 0:03:04.234 I hate this. 0:03:06.314 --> 0:03:09.954 Before Kylie Jenna said to him, We're all right, okay, 0:03:10.354 --> 0:03:13.754 and he goes yeah, and she says, I hope. 0:03:13.794 --> 0:03:17.353 So can I ask a questionion about lip readers? 0:03:17.594 --> 0:03:20.634 Where were they like five years ago, because now they're everywhere. 0:03:20.674 --> 0:03:22.354 Did they have jobs five years ago? 0:03:22.914 --> 0:03:24.994 Well, I think they might have had proper jobs five 0:03:25.074 --> 0:03:27.634 years ago. There are all these influencers, so there are 0:03:27.914 --> 0:03:30.994 lots of like non professional lip readers, but there are 0:03:31.034 --> 0:03:33.354 also quite a lot of influencers who make their content 0:03:33.394 --> 0:03:37.394 on TikTok translating what celebrities are saying to each other. 0:03:37.674 --> 0:03:40.114 And it's now become so much of a big deal 0:03:40.554 --> 0:03:43.834 that celebrities and royals in particular are being warned about 0:03:43.834 --> 0:03:46.514 it and being told by their agents that just treat 0:03:46.554 --> 0:03:49.834 the whole world like a hot mic at all times. 0:03:50.274 --> 0:03:53.034 Taylor Swift has famously been doing this for a while now, 0:03:53.034 --> 0:03:55.834 where she just does not talk in public unless she's 0:03:55.914 --> 0:03:56.634 hiding her mouth. 0:03:57.354 --> 0:04:00.194 I am on the side of TikTok that has all 0:04:00.234 --> 0:04:02.474 the lipreaders, so I love that it will be every 0:04:03.074 --> 0:04:05.994 just event with celebrities and a lipreader telling me what 0:04:06.034 --> 0:04:08.594 they're saying. And then other one I get is psyekicks, 0:04:08.714 --> 0:04:10.754 So I feel like I really know a lot. The 0:04:10.914 --> 0:04:14.674 other thing about Timmy that got lip red was his 0:04:14.794 --> 0:04:17.914 sister comes up to him, Pauline and Kylie sitting behind 0:04:17.993 --> 0:04:20.394 him and the lip reader, and you know, the lip 0:04:20.394 --> 0:04:22.914 reader is one hundred percent accurately. Let's just just put that. 0:04:23.113 --> 0:04:27.474 Science says they're thirty to forty anyway. 0:04:27.113 --> 0:04:31.474 Okay, Timothy says to his sister, could you go easy 0:04:31.513 --> 0:04:35.154 on her, referring to Kylie as supposed to, and Pauline 0:04:35.193 --> 0:04:38.713 says okay. Then Timothy reiterates, I want you to go 0:04:38.834 --> 0:04:39.354 easy on. 0:04:39.313 --> 0:04:40.794 Her, because what was she going to do. 0:04:40.873 --> 0:04:44.193 And I believe it so hard because I'm like, that 0:04:44.474 --> 0:04:47.354 is exactly what my brother would say to me if 0:04:47.354 --> 0:04:48.273 he had a girlfriend. 0:04:48.313 --> 0:04:50.914 By then you might be going up to him being like, 0:04:50.953 --> 0:04:54.753 why are you wearing? Yeah, what's with the keyhole? Am 0:04:54.753 --> 0:04:55.914 I supposed to put something in. 0:04:55.873 --> 0:04:56.474 That key hole? 0:04:57.594 --> 0:05:00.794 Royals are in lots of trouble with the lip readers. Recently, 0:05:00.873 --> 0:05:03.794 King Charles was getting into his carriage and apparently that suck. 0:05:03.674 --> 0:05:07.953 Me after his nation. 0:05:09.633 --> 0:05:13.033 Remember the pin Remember his pen that ran out of 0:05:13.034 --> 0:05:14.954 ink and he was really cranky. I don't even think 0:05:14.993 --> 0:05:16.713 that was lip reading. I think you could hear it. 0:05:17.154 --> 0:05:18.313 He's so cranky. 0:05:18.393 --> 0:05:21.834 He's really cranky. But anyway, pour one out for them, 0:05:21.873 --> 0:05:23.674 because they can't even get drunk and have a good 0:05:23.674 --> 0:05:26.273 time anymore without everybody going I can tell what you're saying. 0:05:27.474 --> 0:05:31.073 I need to talk about some actual scrorellous gossip you 0:05:31.193 --> 0:05:34.313 might be seeing around your feeds. That Nicole Kidman, who 0:05:34.393 --> 0:05:37.993 was definitely relaunching at the Oscars, particularly at the Vanity 0:05:37.993 --> 0:05:41.354 Fair party. She looked unbelievable in that yellow dress at 0:05:41.354 --> 0:05:43.833 the Vanity Fair party after the Oscars, and she was 0:05:44.154 --> 0:05:46.553 very main character. I mean, of course, she is, she's thick. 0:05:46.873 --> 0:05:51.394 She photo bombed Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchezos, which I loved. 0:05:51.354 --> 0:05:53.553 Yeah, because it's like only one of the people in 0:05:53.594 --> 0:05:56.914 this photo should be here star power. 0:05:57.313 --> 0:06:01.834 And the camera just followed her away from Jeff Lawrence. 0:06:01.914 --> 0:06:04.993 Must have been very humbling for them. But anyway, the 0:06:05.073 --> 0:06:07.393 rumors are that she's got a relaunch of another I'm 0:06:07.393 --> 0:06:10.234 going on. You might have seen that she is dating 0:06:10.513 --> 0:06:14.113 our own Simon Baker. Like three people showed this to 0:06:14.154 --> 0:06:16.513 me in the kitchen this morning, showed me an Instagram 0:06:16.594 --> 0:06:18.993 title of her holding hands with Simon Baker on a 0:06:19.034 --> 0:06:21.714 red carpet, and we're going, is this true? Because obviously 0:06:21.714 --> 0:06:22.153 they know that. 0:06:22.234 --> 0:06:23.113 I know you'd know. 0:06:23.714 --> 0:06:28.433 First my close personal friend Nicole Kidman. Woman's Day reports 0:06:29.073 --> 0:06:32.234 they debuted their romance on the scarpeta red carpet and 0:06:32.274 --> 0:06:34.993 it has Nicole's ex husband, Keith Urban. 0:06:35.193 --> 0:06:40.713 Really the tabloid's just like they only flaunt their pins. 0:06:41.234 --> 0:06:55.234 They're looking at it sitting on a stools. 0:06:55.393 --> 0:06:58.113 In terms of whether or not we think this is true, 0:06:58.753 --> 0:07:01.153 they are in a show together at the minute in 0:07:01.154 --> 0:07:03.673 which they play a husband and wife. 0:07:03.714 --> 0:07:04.993 Is this Scarpeader scarpet? 0:07:05.753 --> 0:07:06.353 It's on Prime. 0:07:06.474 --> 0:07:09.474 Have you heard it's yeah, because it's based on the 0:07:09.514 --> 0:07:12.634 Patricia corn Or novels about the forensic psychologists, and I 0:07:12.674 --> 0:07:15.273 love those novels. So I was tracking the reviews closely. 0:07:15.354 --> 0:07:16.593 But are you going to watch it? 0:07:16.754 --> 0:07:17.473 I don't think so. 0:07:17.634 --> 0:07:18.674 The reviews are quite bad. 0:07:18.754 --> 0:07:21.314 That's bad. Anyway. They're in it together, and they were 0:07:21.354 --> 0:07:23.034 at the launch and they're standing next to each other 0:07:23.034 --> 0:07:25.554 in a group of people, and indeed they are holding hands. 0:07:25.794 --> 0:07:28.394 But let's get some context here. A, they're actors. B. 0:07:28.514 --> 0:07:31.514 They've known each other for thirty years. Nicole is the 0:07:31.514 --> 0:07:35.353 godmother of his children. She was Besti's with his ex wife. 0:07:35.834 --> 0:07:37.754 The fact that they are holding hands on a red 0:07:37.754 --> 0:07:41.514 carpet could mean that the popular romantic trope of friends 0:07:41.554 --> 0:07:45.354 to love Us has life, or it could mean that 0:07:45.393 --> 0:07:47.393 they would like to stoke a little bit of rumor 0:07:47.434 --> 0:07:50.713 to get people to watch Keith to reel, get Keith 0:07:50.754 --> 0:07:52.994 to reel, or to get people to watch scarpettit because, 0:07:52.994 --> 0:07:55.434 as Amelia says, the reviewers are not encouraging them to 0:07:56.474 --> 0:07:59.154 or they could just be mates promoting a show. 0:07:59.794 --> 0:08:03.754 Nicole is very I think she's very clever and strategic 0:08:03.754 --> 0:08:06.393 about this stuff. I think she'd be holding Simon Baker's 0:08:06.434 --> 0:08:08.914 hand because she knows it's going to get attention. And 0:08:08.994 --> 0:08:11.034 if I was next to Simon Baker, I'd want to 0:08:11.074 --> 0:08:11.634 hold his hand. 0:08:12.393 --> 0:08:15.393 I have famously talked on the show about the fact 0:08:15.393 --> 0:08:17.714 that he was the most lovely celebrity I've ever met. 0:08:18.314 --> 0:08:20.154 I mean, among the only celebrities I've ever met. 0:08:20.754 --> 0:08:21.354 You met him. 0:08:21.514 --> 0:08:22.914 I met him at a press event. 0:08:23.034 --> 0:08:24.793 He was in the car with me and he introduced 0:08:24.834 --> 0:08:27.234 himself and he said, hello, I'm Simon Baker and put 0:08:27.274 --> 0:08:27.914 his hand up. 0:08:27.953 --> 0:08:30.234 And you said, you don't need to introduce yourself to me. 0:08:30.914 --> 0:08:33.434 He said, if I shake that head, can we hold the. 0:08:34.953 --> 0:08:39.354 He was reeling somewhere. What did the lipretors say? That's 0:08:39.674 --> 0:08:40.394 question true. 0:08:40.434 --> 0:08:42.274 We need to enlist them. I don't think they've been 0:08:42.314 --> 0:08:42.994 on this one. 0:08:43.194 --> 0:08:45.914 Well, look, I want to bring something from the Oscars 0:08:45.914 --> 0:08:48.554 that will make your day. And it's a very short 0:08:48.554 --> 0:08:51.754 clip and it's Ethan Hawk talking to Amelia de Moldenburg 0:08:51.874 --> 0:08:54.514 on the Oscars Red Carpet. No further explanation needed. 0:08:54.794 --> 0:08:57.394 Do you have any advice for someone who also has 0:08:57.674 --> 0:08:59.994 a bit of an unrequited love theme in their life? 0:09:00.074 --> 0:09:01.834 The one who's in love always wins. 0:09:02.034 --> 0:09:04.434 Okay, yeah, it doesn't matter if you get your heart broken. 0:09:04.514 --> 0:09:07.754 You're living when you're when you're feeling, you're alive. You know, 0:09:07.794 --> 0:09:10.914 the sun doesn't care whether the grass appreciates its raise, Right, 0:09:11.674 --> 0:09:12.953 it just keeps unshining. 0:09:13.234 --> 0:09:16.594 I mean actual chills, right, actual chills. 0:09:16.794 --> 0:09:21.074 Sorry, it's the most profound thing, liver, profound like the 0:09:21.154 --> 0:09:26.514 sun doesn't care, It doesn't care. It just like it 0:09:26.554 --> 0:09:29.234 makes me feel so much better about my ears. 0:09:29.234 --> 0:09:35.794 Abounrequired always wins. Mean I am so here for the 0:09:35.794 --> 0:09:38.794 ethan Hawk renaissance. I don't care that he allegedly cheated 0:09:38.794 --> 0:09:40.754 on him with herman, with the nanny who we then married. 0:09:41.074 --> 0:09:42.954 I don't even know if there's an alleged in that 0:09:42.994 --> 0:09:44.194 sentence anymore, but. 0:09:44.314 --> 0:09:45.234 He does deny it. 0:09:45.274 --> 0:09:47.074 Holy, yeah, he's wise. Now. 0:09:47.234 --> 0:09:49.234 I think he's a savior of gen X men, because 0:09:49.274 --> 0:09:50.833 we all know that a lot of gen x heart 0:09:51.634 --> 0:09:56.914 things have not let Johnny. And the thing is is that, yes, 0:09:56.994 --> 0:10:00.954 Ethan Hawk has a few questionable stories in his past, 0:10:01.594 --> 0:10:05.994 but every time he's interviewed, he's real. He drops something wise, 0:10:06.274 --> 0:10:09.554 he's deep sea. He's a bit embarrassing, but he doesn't mind. 0:10:09.954 --> 0:10:12.394 He's aging like a fine, he really is. I think 0:10:12.434 --> 0:10:15.074 he could be, and he kind of has that. He 0:10:15.194 --> 0:10:19.514 has the gen x sort of arty anti establishment he 0:10:19.634 --> 0:10:21.154 thing that was the best of us. 0:10:22.034 --> 0:10:24.194 Did you even know that he writes novels no one 0:10:24.234 --> 0:10:26.754 reads them, but he continues to see them. 0:10:26.594 --> 0:10:30.194 And he makes documentaries about weird shit, and he's Mayahawk's dad. 0:10:30.274 --> 0:10:32.474 I just think he seems like a good dad because 0:10:32.514 --> 0:10:33.274 I like my hook. 0:10:33.394 --> 0:10:35.754 Let's allow him to give us all our wisdom from 0:10:35.794 --> 0:10:36.154 here on in. 0:10:37.154 --> 0:10:40.274 If it sometimes feels like the world just wasn't built 0:10:40.394 --> 0:10:42.794 for you, that's how I feel every single day. You'd 0:10:42.794 --> 0:10:46.034 be right. For example, something that I notice all the 0:10:46.074 --> 0:10:49.554 time is every time I'm on a train, the handholders 0:10:49.594 --> 0:10:53.034 are really high, and even if I can reach it, 0:10:53.194 --> 0:10:56.754 my shirt like rides up, so I'm just exposing my 0:10:56.874 --> 0:10:58.434 belly to everyone on the train. 0:10:58.634 --> 0:11:00.594 Are you not getting offered a seat on the train? 0:11:00.994 --> 0:11:04.154 You're obviously grave and state Okay, I have a whole 0:11:04.154 --> 0:11:06.874 theory about this. People have become too politically correct and 0:11:06.954 --> 0:11:08.394 they don't want to say would. 0:11:08.314 --> 0:11:09.194 So you're not getting it? 0:11:09.874 --> 0:11:12.194 Do not know yet? I don't think I would look 0:11:12.234 --> 0:11:14.674 at you at this moment and go definitely pregnant. I 0:11:14.714 --> 0:11:16.953 would put you in the borderline. I could offend her. 0:11:16.994 --> 0:11:19.474 I offer her the seat category you need to wait 0:11:19.554 --> 0:11:21.554 till really near the end, when no one's going like 0:11:21.674 --> 0:11:22.434 she might hit me. 0:11:22.474 --> 0:11:26.874 And yeah, well anyway, I do have opinions about how 0:11:27.154 --> 0:11:31.354 I wish people would take more consideration. But it turns 0:11:31.394 --> 0:11:34.634 out everything from public transport to cars, to medicines, to 0:11:34.754 --> 0:11:38.594 phones to the temperature of your office was probably designed 0:11:38.634 --> 0:11:41.994 with a specific person in mind. And his name is 0:11:42.114 --> 0:11:45.474 reference Man. He is a white male, twenty five to 0:11:45.514 --> 0:11:48.874 thirty five years old, weighing around seventy kilos and he's 0:11:48.914 --> 0:11:52.794 about one hundred and seventy centimeters tall. In an article 0:11:52.994 --> 0:11:56.834 for ABC titled women are often an afterthought when it 0:11:56.874 --> 0:12:00.674 comes to designing products, Nicole Kharms who is a professor 0:12:00.794 --> 0:12:04.514 in the Department of Design at Monash University and she's 0:12:04.554 --> 0:12:08.234 founding director of the Monash x y X Lab, which 0:12:08.354 --> 0:12:12.994 leads research into gender sensitive design. She tells reporter Amelia 0:12:13.074 --> 0:12:16.514 Moseley reference Man was created in the mid nineteen seventies, 0:12:16.554 --> 0:12:18.714 and he became what I would describe as a kind 0:12:18.714 --> 0:12:22.314 of default or standard human that was the measure for everything. 0:12:22.514 --> 0:12:24.794 I think lots of podcasts have made for reference man. 0:12:24.874 --> 0:12:25.554 I think a lot of. 0:12:27.034 --> 0:12:28.954 I had quite a lot of movies that one. Things 0:12:28.994 --> 0:12:31.394 at the Oscars were also made for reference. 0:12:31.514 --> 0:12:35.034 That's my problem with one battle after another, it was 0:12:35.114 --> 0:12:38.554 the reference man movie. So the problem is that for 0:12:38.594 --> 0:12:41.594 a very long time, women, despite being half the population, 0:12:41.874 --> 0:12:45.194 weren't part of the research studies that informed design. And 0:12:45.234 --> 0:12:48.874 what happened was they'd use men. And I remember learning 0:12:48.874 --> 0:12:52.114 this at UNI. It's also because it would be men 0:12:52.154 --> 0:12:54.714 who were the UNI students who would participate in all 0:12:54.754 --> 0:12:59.154 the studies, but they would then just scale everything down 0:12:59.274 --> 0:13:03.114 thirty or forty percent for women. They were basically saying 0:13:03.154 --> 0:13:06.994 women are just short males, which didn't take into account 0:13:07.154 --> 0:13:11.234 all the differences in women's body shape and bone density 0:13:11.274 --> 0:13:13.474 and body fat and muscle mass and blood pressure and 0:13:13.514 --> 0:13:16.234 resting heart rate and all of that. So here are 0:13:16.314 --> 0:13:19.594 a few of the consequences of reference men that I 0:13:19.634 --> 0:13:23.434 didn't know about. Musical instruments can be more difficult for 0:13:23.514 --> 0:13:28.354 women to play, for example, the flute because they're designed 0:13:28.354 --> 0:13:29.074 for male. 0:13:28.874 --> 0:13:30.074 Hands, big fingers. 0:13:30.314 --> 0:13:33.274 Yeah, and so women sometimes get a flute and they 0:13:33.314 --> 0:13:35.314 can't like separate their fingers enough for the. 0:13:35.314 --> 0:13:36.914 Whole That's definitely why I can't. 0:13:37.194 --> 0:13:39.754 I was gonna say, that's a great excuse for my 0:13:40.034 --> 0:13:43.794 lack of musical skill. Women's clothes will often have no pockets, 0:13:43.914 --> 0:13:47.434 or pockets that are so narrow and small they're almost useless. 0:13:48.234 --> 0:13:51.514 PPE wasn't designed to fit women. Even though women make 0:13:51.594 --> 0:13:56.274 up seventy percent of frontline healthcare workers. Women are up 0:13:56.314 --> 0:13:59.674 to seventy five percent more likely to experience adverse reactions 0:13:59.674 --> 0:14:02.954 to prescription medicines. I reckon, I've had this to be 0:14:02.994 --> 0:14:05.554 a problem. Yes, I reckon, I've had this because they 0:14:05.554 --> 0:14:08.234 give you a dose and they go, oh sorry. We 0:14:08.234 --> 0:14:11.634 should have actually adapted it based on the fact that, like, 0:14:11.994 --> 0:14:16.114 according to this, you're actually half the size of reference man. Anyway, 0:14:16.554 --> 0:14:19.194 in some country, studies show women are more likely to 0:14:19.234 --> 0:14:22.514 be injured in a car crash than men, and air 0:14:22.554 --> 0:14:25.954 conditioning in offices feels really intense to a lot of women, 0:14:26.234 --> 0:14:27.594 except for Holly, which we'll get to. 0:14:27.834 --> 0:14:31.674 I'm turning into reference man. I turn that air cut up. 0:14:32.434 --> 0:14:33.274 I wanted. 0:14:36.074 --> 0:14:38.634 Because it was based on the metabolic activity of a 0:14:38.714 --> 0:14:42.594 forty year old seventy kilo male and women generally have 0:14:42.754 --> 0:14:46.114 lower metabolic rates, which means we generate less heat. Holy 0:14:46.234 --> 0:14:48.314 I'm actually with you on the aircon. I love a 0:14:48.434 --> 0:14:50.474 crispy cold air cold the moment. 0:14:50.274 --> 0:14:52.034 Holly, what other parts of reference? 0:14:52.074 --> 0:14:54.514 Man? Do you think you're going to quiet? You can 0:14:54.594 --> 0:14:57.954 start listening to Carl's podcast. I feel like that's very referenced. 0:14:58.794 --> 0:15:02.074 Yes, what else I could do? 0:15:02.914 --> 0:15:04.994 John Grisham novels, Yes one hundred. 0:15:06.394 --> 0:15:10.034 This is very good advice for me in a moment? 0:15:10.154 --> 0:15:11.594 What is a peptide? 0:15:11.634 --> 0:15:20.634 And why are you suddenly singing them everywhere. 0:15:19.714 --> 0:15:22.154 Out louders? Hey, it's Mia and m Vanam. 0:15:22.354 --> 0:15:26.194 We weren't invited for the Oscars episode where we that 0:15:26.274 --> 0:15:29.274 was really holy. Amelia and Claire did on Monday, so 0:15:29.434 --> 0:15:30.594 we comment did the mics and. 0:15:30.514 --> 0:15:32.594 Did our own Oscars episode. 0:15:32.114 --> 0:15:34.234 But we only wanted to talk about the fashion. Really, 0:15:34.554 --> 0:15:37.074 there was some judgment, but it was done with love, 0:15:37.114 --> 0:15:40.554 I think, and kindness. We not only talked about the 0:15:40.594 --> 0:15:42.994 Oscars Red Carpet but also the Vanity Fair red carpet. 0:15:43.314 --> 0:15:45.594 I had a small rant, but we also did talk 0:15:45.634 --> 0:15:46.874 about our best and worst. 0:15:47.194 --> 0:15:48.794 I'm not quite passionate, sneak peek. 0:15:48.914 --> 0:15:50.874 My worst is all the women who couldn't walk, or 0:15:50.914 --> 0:15:53.314 eat or breathe in their outfits. But there were also 0:15:53.394 --> 0:15:56.394 lots of bests, weren't there so many? So if you 0:15:56.434 --> 0:15:58.794 want to hear us, and you're not already a subscriber, 0:15:58.834 --> 0:16:01.314 there's a link in your show notes and you can 0:16:01.354 --> 0:16:04.034 listen right now. And if you are a subscriber, you've 0:16:04.034 --> 0:16:04.714 probably listened to. 0:16:05.674 --> 0:16:08.954 See you Sam. 0:16:09.674 --> 0:16:12.034 You may have seen this on your social feed recently, 0:16:12.274 --> 0:16:16.434 someone is injecting themselves with something they claim is the fountain. 0:16:16.114 --> 0:16:18.954 Of Youth, which they call a peptide. 0:16:19.194 --> 0:16:22.194 The ABC has reported that kids as young as fourteen 0:16:22.554 --> 0:16:26.034 are ordering what they think are peptides online because of 0:16:26.074 --> 0:16:30.754 reported health benefits. Joe Rogan reference man himself, urged, Matt 0:16:30.834 --> 0:16:32.394 Damon also a reference. 0:16:32.034 --> 0:16:35.074 Man, definitely a reference man. 0:16:36.274 --> 0:16:38.314 Matt Damon and Ben Affleck. He said to them. 0:16:38.194 --> 0:16:42.634 That they should take a so called wolverine peptide on 0:16:42.674 --> 0:16:46.074 his show recently. Joe Rogan. Look, he's not a doctor, 0:16:46.114 --> 0:16:48.514 and neither am I. But we are not here to 0:16:48.634 --> 0:16:52.274 recommend that people do this. Instead, we want to talk 0:16:52.314 --> 0:16:56.234 about what peptides are, why you're seeing them everywhere, and 0:16:56.274 --> 0:16:59.474 why this social media driven trend, because it is very 0:16:59.594 --> 0:17:04.314 much social media driven, why this trend is so dangerous? Okay, FIRS, 0:17:04.394 --> 0:17:07.273 just a tiny bit of science for you. They are 0:17:07.273 --> 0:17:09.154 already peptides in your body. They're already there. 0:17:09.234 --> 0:17:11.634 They are the building blocks of proteins. They do lots 0:17:11.634 --> 0:17:14.073 of different things. They kind of tell the body what 0:17:14.114 --> 0:17:14.434 to do. 0:17:14.634 --> 0:17:17.354 They're in your metabolism, they're in your growth systems, they're 0:17:17.354 --> 0:17:19.914 in your immune system. But the peptides we're talking about 0:17:19.914 --> 0:17:22.794 today are outside of your body, and they are being 0:17:22.834 --> 0:17:23.914 created in labs. 0:17:24.074 --> 0:17:27.434 Some of them are in a really nice looking jar, yes, 0:17:27.914 --> 0:17:30.954 at my favorite beauty shop, which is fine, being sold 0:17:30.954 --> 0:17:33.354 to me by my friend Gwyneth. Yes, is that. 0:17:33.354 --> 0:17:35.994 Okay, I can't speak to those specific ones, but I 0:17:36.034 --> 0:17:39.754 will say that the problem is that there's a whole 0:17:39.794 --> 0:17:43.234 bunch of so called peptides floating around which have not 0:17:43.314 --> 0:17:46.314 been studied, not approved by the TGA, which is the 0:17:46.314 --> 0:17:50.434 Therapeutic Goods Administration which regulates medicines in Australia. It may 0:17:50.434 --> 0:17:53.394 not even be peptides because they're being sold online and 0:17:53.434 --> 0:17:55.394 are not being regulated. And there are lots of people 0:17:55.394 --> 0:17:58.793 on the internet, including our friend Robert F. Kennedy Junior, 0:17:58.994 --> 0:18:00.754 as well as a lot of influencers. There are a 0:18:00.754 --> 0:18:03.754 lot of women talking about this too. They're making wild 0:18:03.794 --> 0:18:06.074 claims about what these peptides can do for you in 0:18:06.114 --> 0:18:08.354 terms of health and well. A stat that blew my 0:18:08.394 --> 0:18:10.234 mind is that the TG says that it took down 0:18:10.274 --> 0:18:13.154 more than thirteen thousand advertisements in the twenty twenty four 0:18:13.154 --> 0:18:19.033 to twenty five financial year online which were including peptide advertisements. 0:18:19.234 --> 0:18:20.114 And the reason they're. 0:18:19.914 --> 0:18:23.234 Online is because none of these are actually approved drugs, 0:18:23.274 --> 0:18:25.714 so they can't be advertised in any form to the 0:18:25.754 --> 0:18:28.834 general public, and experts are pretty unanimous in saying that 0:18:28.874 --> 0:18:32.114 this is extremely dangerous. Before I get into why, I 0:18:32.154 --> 0:18:36.994 want to know, Claire, have you seen this phenomenon online? 0:18:37.314 --> 0:18:41.034 Yes. Luckily I am on the side of the internet 0:18:41.074 --> 0:18:44.434 where the first stuff I saw was people criticizing peptides. 0:18:44.474 --> 0:18:46.954 But then I was like, what are you criticizing? To 0:18:46.954 --> 0:18:50.394 find out more so then I would look at I 0:18:50.434 --> 0:18:53.714 searched it and found some of the influencers who are 0:18:53.754 --> 0:18:58.954 promoting it and was gobsmacked. I just even the idea 0:18:59.114 --> 0:19:03.874 of injecting yourself without having been shown how to do 0:19:03.914 --> 0:19:05.474 that biomedical practitioner. 0:19:05.874 --> 0:19:07.674 I'm not knowing what's in and not. 0:19:07.634 --> 0:19:09.434 Knowing what's in it, and apparently there can be like 0:19:09.514 --> 0:19:11.154 heavy metal. I mean, they can be all sorts of 0:19:11.154 --> 0:19:15.273 things because it's completely unregulated. The other thing that I 0:19:15.314 --> 0:19:18.354 saw was some of the Robert F. Kennedy Junior stuff, 0:19:18.794 --> 0:19:22.674 and I thought, it's very, very fascinating what he is 0:19:23.114 --> 0:19:29.474 apprehensive about injecting versus what he's very means injections. Vaccine, no, 0:19:29.554 --> 0:19:32.994 not crucial for health. Peptides, on the other hand, Oh yes, 0:19:33.074 --> 0:19:33.874 we'll get though. 0:19:34.314 --> 0:19:37.114 And apparently in a lot of these social media posts, 0:19:37.274 --> 0:19:40.874 they point out that the labels on these peptides say 0:19:40.914 --> 0:19:43.394 things like for research purposes only. 0:19:43.274 --> 0:19:44.434 Or not for human use. 0:19:44.794 --> 0:19:47.794 But the TEGA specifically wants people to know that this 0:19:47.874 --> 0:19:49.674 is not some kind of get out of jail free 0:19:49.714 --> 0:19:52.154 card for the people who are producing these peptides or 0:19:52.154 --> 0:19:55.074 so called peptides. It doesn't change the fact that they 0:19:55.074 --> 0:19:57.674 are not approved and should not be used. 0:19:57.714 --> 0:19:59.714