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Speaker 1: These are the yeays of our lives.

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Speaker 2: Busy and happy are not the same thing. We too

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Speaker 2: to hear and explore the stories of those who found

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Speaker 2: your yea. I'm Sarah Davidson or a spoonful of Sarah,

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Speaker 2: a lawyer turned funentrepreneur who swapped the suits and heels

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Speaker 2: to co found Matcha Maiden and Matcha Milk Bark Sez

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Speaker 2: the Ya is a series of conversations on finding a

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Speaker 2: life you love and exploring the self doubt, challenge, joy

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Speaker 1: Hi, Bim, welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 3: Him. I'm going to pretend like not like we just

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Speaker 1: We had an amazing conversation for five whole minutes before

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Speaker 4: At by end.

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Speaker 1: Great start, great start, but we were super scattered like

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Speaker 1: we always are. So I'm kind of like, I'm not

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Speaker 1: that upset about it, Doover, Welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even do an intro.

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Speaker 1: So we haven't spoken all weekend, just a little rap

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Speaker 1: so And has been away from the show for a week,

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to the show, Bim.

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Speaker 1: We speak every single day, but for the past two days,

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Speaker 1: I've just been in a four tex of slot Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I have my second job on Friday. I had a

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Speaker 3: Oh it's so yeah. I just put a piece of

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Speaker 3: I was saying for all my Vietnamese or Southeast Asian

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Speaker 4: Tough love.

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Speaker 3: two is, yeah, everyone's definitely fighting their own battles. And

443
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 3: it's really sad because obviously even working in ind and

444
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 3: you just see a lot of mental health and things

445
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 3: like suicide attempts coming in and it breaks your heart,

446
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,880
Speaker 3: it does. And yeah, because I've been through a bit

447
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 3: of it, it's hard to see and it's I can empathize,

448
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 3: and yeah, you know how debilitating it is and how

449
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 3: hard it is to find any kind of light sometimes,

450
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 3: and you really dark stage or phase of your life,

451
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,479
Speaker 3: it's very hard to find any light. And it is

452
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 3: it's easy to say for something that's not unit to

453
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,400
Speaker 3: say you look forward to the happy things, or they'd

454
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,640
Speaker 3: be grateful for what you have, or right in a journal.

455
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 3: Sometimes people that are really depressed don't want to do that.

456
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 3: They have no energy to put any energy into anything

457
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 3: that is like sometimes you just want to sleep all day,

458
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 3: that's just all you want to do. So, yeah, those

459
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,919
Speaker 3: things are I guess reflections. But I love October for that,

460
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 3: for it being mental health month. And I'm a big advocate.

461
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 1: Family too, so I think that is also one of

462
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 1: the reflections that I have often in October and all

463
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 1: the time is around that idea that it's often like,

464
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 1: I think the two kind of similar points. The first

465
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,679
Speaker 1: I talk about all the time, which is that I

466
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 1: think anxiety, even depression is kind of a misnoma, like

467
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 1: their name aimed in a way that too closely relates

468
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 1: them to parts of emotions that are part of a

469
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 1: normal person who doesn't have any mental illness or mental

470
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 1: health problems in their life. It's normal to have experienced

471
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 1: the feeling of depression or the feeling of anxiousness. So

472
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 1: the fact that the actual conditions depression and anxiety are

473
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 1: called that makes people who have never experienced it think, oh,

474
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 1: that's just like what I've had before, so just get

475
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: a massage or have a bath, or think about happy

476
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: thoughts or listen to music and it'll go away. It

477
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 1: doesn't really acknowledge that those conditions are like a chemical

478
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 1: imbalance in the brain that have often nothing to do

479
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 1: with your circumstances. So gratitude doesn't help because you already

480
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 1: know that logically that you have wonderful things to appreciate,

481
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: but sometimes the chemical state of your brain makes it

482
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: impossible for you to feel any kind of serotonin or

483
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: appreciation or positivity, and That's something that I really I

484
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: didn't understand before i'd experienced it. So when people would

485
00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: be like, I have anxiety, I'd be like, well, just

486
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: don't be anxious, just chill out, just change your lifestyle.

487
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: But what I didn't realize is that even if that

488
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: person quit their job, removed all stresses in their life,

489
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: had all the money in the world, Like those things

490
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: don't necessarily help. You can get the worst mental health

491
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: symptoms in the best objective times of your life. And

492
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 1: I've had that in my life before too, where everything

493
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: was going really well there was actually no stimulus. There's

494
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: actually no reason. It's like an injury, like there's sometimes

495
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: you just have a physical symptom and there's no reason

496
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: why that came on at that particular time of your life.

497
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: And the thing that helped me the most to treat

498
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: my own mental health seriously is when I do get

499
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 1: about of anxiety or a flare of a depressive episode,

500
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 1: is to treat it like a physical illness, Like if

501
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: I broke my leg, would I try and walk on

502
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 1: it straight away?

503
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 2: No?

504
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. And yet if you have depression, you try

505
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 1: and go back to work straight away, you try and

506
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: demand everything of yourself that you normally would and it's

507
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: so strange because it's invisible that we get into those patterns.

508
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: So I think just fundamentally understanding what it is that's

509
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: happening helps me know how to treat it and how

510
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 1: to support other people. If someone says to me they're

511
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: anxiety flaring, the last thing I would ever say is, oh,

512
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: just think positive thoughts or just write in your journal.

513
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: Anxious people don't really have the capacity to do that,

514
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: even thinking like do you know what I mean? Like

515
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: such an interesting area. But I think, yeah, the fact

516
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: that we can even have these conversations without it being

517
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: weird or taboo is so great that that's happening. And

518
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: I was Another one of the statistics I read on

519
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: Beyond Blues website was that support seeking has been growing rapidly.

520
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: So even if the statistics are quite extreme of who's

521
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 1: experiencing mental health, around half of all people with the

522
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: condition are actually getting treatment, which is so wonderful because

523
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 1: I'm sure that ten years ago that wasn't the case.

524
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think something that you said, like, you know,

525
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 3: going back to work Earli this year, I had like

526
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 3: take a day off and I remember messaging my supervisor

527
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 3: being like, this is why I love workplace that I have.

528
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 3: I was like, ah, I am really burnt out or

529
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,479
Speaker 3: I can feel myself being burnt out and tired. I

530
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 3: will always shop to work and do one hundred percent

531
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 3: and I always do deliver, but you just know in

532
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 3: the back of your mind you're like, oh, I'm pretty tired.

533
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 3: And I was like I she was like, take a

534
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 3: day off. And I was like, oh no, Like she

535
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 3: has no take a day off because mental health and

536
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 3: burnout just as important as any other physical sickness. And

537
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 3: she's like, would you take it if you had a cold,

538
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 3: And I was like yeah, she goes, we'll take it off.

539
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 3: So it was amazing and I wish that, like I

540
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 3: was comfortable to say it to my supervisor. However, I

541
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 3: feel like it still was very hard for me to

542
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 3: say I need a day off of mental health. I

543
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 3: just caught it a sick day, and like I even

544
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 3: got like the doctor to write a note that was

545
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 3: a different sickness to like a mental health day, like

546
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 3: you know, I was actually unwell or something, as in

547
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 3: when I say actually, I mean like a sickness that

548
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 3: is physically yeah, like tangible kind of thing, and that's

549
00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 3: the hardest thing. I think a lot of people really

550
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 3: you really need and want mental health days, and the

551
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 3: landscape is changing where managers and bosses really appreciate it,

552
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 3: but it's very hard, I think for employees sometimes to

553
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 3: step up and say I need mental health day, because

554
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 3: it doesn't seem still sadly legitimate, like it's not a legitimate,

555
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 3: and it would really really suck for people to abuse

556
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 3: the mental health sick day and just take it as is.

557
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 3: I think that's what for the rest of people, because

558
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 3: then it's not like you can't trust that it's a

559
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 3: mental health day. Like if people go, you know, partying

560
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 3: or whatever, which is roll, maybe that's what they need

561
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,479
Speaker 3: to do on their day off. But that's fine too.

562
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 3: But I just find that that's the one thing that

563
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 3: I still find tricky is I'd happily talk about it

564
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 3: to the cows, come home, about mine, about how I

565
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 3: strategize about my mental health as well. But when it

566
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 3: comes to putting your hand up and saying, oh, I

567
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 3: need a day off and you sick leave, and my

568
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 3: sick leave is because of mental health, it's so hard

569
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 3: to do still, and I still struggle to figure out

570
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 3: how to do it properly without feeling like are they

571
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 3: judging me? Really? Do they think that I'm that I'm sick?

572
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 3: Like do they think that I'm lying? Or do they

573
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 3: think that all these other things those feelings of it's.

574
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 4: That perception that needs to change.

575
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 3: Still, Yeah, and I like if someone that doesn't really

576
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 3: care what people think of me. But I don't think

577
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 3: the last thing that I want is when my workplace

578
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 3: to think that I was like using it as an excuse.

579
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 3: And that's the last one, even though I know that

580
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 3: I'm not, I think as you just go through that

581
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 3: kind of cycle of I think everyone does it in

582
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 3: a workplace. I'm sure if anyone has has been able

583
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 3: to successfully say I need a day off because of

584
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 3: mental health, I would love for some tips because it's

585
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 3: really tricky and it's not a reflection on the workplace

586
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 3: it or it's a reflection of me. I know that

587
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: if I said it, they'd be like, of course, but

588
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 3: it's say me being like okay with it is another thing.

589
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 3: So that's something that I've realized is tricky to is

590
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 3: making mental health a just as important and as a

591
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 3: physical health concern.

592
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: That's actually like I think equating them in my brain,

593
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: like trying to put them into the same category, has

594
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: been the only way that I treat them with equal seriousness.

595
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: Otherwise I would just always try and push through because

596
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: it's invisible. But the thing that's really interesting is I

597
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: always thought it was invisible completely in that it was

598
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: really just emotional overwhelm or feeling like you know, emotions

599
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: of anxiety, or emotions of sadness, or emotions of flatness.

600
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: But you can feel those and still function. The difference

601
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: with mental illness often is that it actually has physiological

602
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: symptoms as well, which I think people are just starting

603
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: to understand. So anxiety can sometimes manifest in shortness of

604
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: breath or like.

605
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 3: Numbers means, do you remember me vim last year?

606
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: Yeah? And you still sometimes Yeah.

607
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 3: I have this of wacky breathing style that when I

608
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 3: get anxious or and I don't This is me. I

609
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 3: know when I'm anxious, but I was like, don't do

610
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 3: what I'm anxious or stressed. And I'm someone that's like,

611
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 3: I don't get stressed, and I truly still believe that.

612
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 3: But for me, unless it's physical manifestation and those that's

613
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 3: the only way I can figure out that if that

614
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 3: I am anxious, and Sarah Nos and anyone that's really

615
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 3: close to me knows I have this weird, like hickuppy

616
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 3: breathing style that is really evident and loud and really

617
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 3: abnormal when I am anxious. And the other thing is

618
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,479
Speaker 3: that I don't have an appetite. So like the end

619
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 3: of last year, I know, the breathing was so hard,

620
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 3: like I was so short of breath all the time

621
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 3: that I had like a lung function test, I had

622
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 3: an echo, I had like all these cardiology and respiratory

623
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 3: exams because I was like, what is this Like I

624
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 3: don't even know, Like I used to have to bend

625
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 3: over to take a breath, and it was just like

626
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 3: I wasn't doing anything. I was just it was over

627
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 3: Christmas time, I wasn't working.

628
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: It was just it and I lost Like isn't that crazy.

629
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to make sense though, right, Like it

630
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be like a stressful time. I think

631
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: people think stress, stress and anxiety are the same thing.

632
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 1: But you can be stressed in your life and I

633
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: have no mental health symptoms, and you can be relaxed

634
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: in your life and also have mental health symptoms like

635
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: I think, and that's also why we think of it

636
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: as such a worthiness measure, because we're like, oh, well

637
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,239
Speaker 1: I can cope, Like I'm not a non coper. Like

638
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: that's why I think people get so hesitatd.

639
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, And like I lost five kilos over that time,

640
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 3: and then I was like, what the heck is going

641
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 3: on with me? Like I just didn't I know I

642
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 3: have anxiety, like you know I have it. I know

643
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 3: I have it. I just never put the symptoms. I'd

644
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 3: never had that level of physical symptoms before. Like normally

645
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 3: for me, it's like emotional where I'm tired, I'm irritable,

646
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 3: I'm cranky, and I'm like, ah, yeam not in a

647
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 3: good spot. But this time I was like, wow, I've

648
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 3: never experienced it that bad in terms of a physical manifestation.

649
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 3: I was sleeping all the time. Yeah, I lost a

650
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 3: lot of weight. I didn't have an appetite for anything.

651
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 3: I needed an app every single day in the middle

652
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,719
Speaker 3: of the day. I couldn't breathe. I've had put them

653
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 3: on a preventer. I felt it was asthma. All these things.

654
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 3: Then it honestly just turned it. And then one thing

655
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 3: that not cured it, but was changed. Everything was you

656
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 3: guys are like, and you need a holiday, and we

657
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 3: were in lockdown, not not in lockdown, but we couldn't

658
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 3: travel anywhere. And so Nick and Sarah being them, they

659
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 3: were like, Okay, we know we've realized that travel for

660
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 3: you is your reset button. It's how you de stressed,

661
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 3: relax completely.

662
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 4: Oh I forgot about the Yeah.

663
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 3: Like completely get away, reset your brain, reset your soul, everything,

664
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 3: And that is completely true. I travel as a means

665
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 3: of one exploring the world, but to actually using it

666
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 3: as a physical reset button for me, it really refreshes me.

667
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 3: Anyway I had obviously I've been able to travel, and

668
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 3: so they booked me a camper van and we're like, yeah,

669
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 3: we start work in seven days. We've booked this for

670
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 3: five days, take it and come back whenever you want.

671
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 3: And literally it was like I started on Jam eighteen

672
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 3: and I think I came back on jan seventeen or something,

673
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 3: and you guys had booked a quite a few days

674
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 3: with this camper van. And I message my friend who's

675
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 3: in Portland, being like, where can I stay on the

676
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 3: Great Ocean Road that's I won't get arrested. And they

677
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 3: were like, well, we've got a beach lock and I

678
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 3: was like what, Like, yeah, we've got a private spot

679
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 3: on the beach that is vacant land still and I

680
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 3: was like, what the heck? So I drove all the

681
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 3: way to Portland and it ended up being the best

682
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,959
Speaker 3: time ever. It was. I saw the sunrise every day

683
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 3: and the sun set on the water, hung out with

684
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 3: them who hadn't seen for six years. And they were

685
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 3: a couple that I met in Spain who literally looked

686
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 3: after me so much when I was backpacking and we

687
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 3: just met there. But they were like my mom and dad,

688
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 3: and we joke about them being my mom and dad.

689
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 3: But it was so heart while. We could see them

690
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 3: after six years again here in Melbourne and it was

691
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 3: like we saw each other yesterday. They're the best couple.

692
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 4: Casine, Your breathing went back to normal.

693
00:33:59,320 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: By the end of that.

694
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 3: Everything everything I ate normally. I rode my bike, I

695
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 3: could run again. I couldn't run because I couldn't breathe

696
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 3: for ages. I was so less anxious, and then come work,

697
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 3: I was so ready for it, but it took that

698
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 3: much for me to figure out what the hell was

699
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 3: going on. So I think it's really hard to explain

700
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 3: to people that to be like, like, I couldn't tell

701
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 3: Mom and Dad, not because I didn't want it, but

702
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 3: I just couldn't explain it to them, so I just

703
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 3: never told them. So Mom just thinks I have like

704
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 3: weird breathing forever, some respiratory disease, so god like, she

705
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 3: fully believes I have some really chronic asthma, but I don't.

706
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 3: But I just this is the hard thing about mental health,

707
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 3: the stigma, and it's very hard to explain to people

708
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 3: that don't understand it, I e. Sometimes Asian parents, And

709
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 3: so I was like, Mom and Dad don't know. I

710
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 3: never told them it's mental health and that I'm anxious,

711
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 3: and they wouldn't understand it either. They'd be like, well,

712
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 3: how do you have shortness of breath from they being anxious?

713
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 3: And I wouldn't know how to explain it. So I

714
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 3: just have avoided it. That's what I mean. Like, I

715
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 3: think it's hard to explain it to people sometimes, and

716
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 3: it's also hard for people to understand. But I think

717
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 3: at the same time, it's portant for us to talk

718
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 3: about and the important for us like you and I

719
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 3: to be open about because we do live on the

720
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 3: outside looking in this wonderful, wonderful life, which is all true,

721
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 3: still completely true as it is. But yeah, I definitely

722
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 3: go through what many other people also go through also.

723
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Speaker 1: And I think another thing that we haven't spoken about

724
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: yet that you and I also struggle with a little

725
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: bit is that we don't sometimes want to explain it

726
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: because it doesn't always affect our productivity or our capacity

727
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: to manage stress or to manage a really intense workload,

728
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: because it's you know, during some periods of time, it's

729
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 1: totally at bay, and so sometimes I won't even mention

730
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: it because I'm like, well, I don't want anyone to

731
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: tiptoe around me at times when it's not interfering with

732
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Speaker 1: my productivity.

733
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Speaker 4: And then that brings up that whole.

734
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: Interrelationship with your worth and your value, and like if

735
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: you can cope, and you know, if you pride yourself

736
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: in your identity as being a copa, it's like, well,

737
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: that's inconsistent with having anxiety or depression, So you don't

738
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: want to say that, and it's.

739
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 4: Like it's such a tricky area.

740
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: But I think even having conversations like this makes me

741
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: think a lot more about why it's important for me

742
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: to break that down and also to put forward a

743
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: message that you can still be hyper productive and you

744
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: can still have a really busy, active life, you just

745
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: have to manage it. Well, that's what's really important. And

746
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 1: still there are things I find out You've taught.

747
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 3: Me most of what I know about it, because I

748
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 3: think growing up you don't know, like I don't know labels,

749
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 3: I don't know what things are called. I just know

750
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 3: what I feel. And that was it. I was like, Okay,

751
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 3: this is this feeling as there's no name for it.

752
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 3: I doesn't know that. I ain't get angry or whatever.

753
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 3: And you taught me so much about what the anxiety

754
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 3: looks like, what depression looks like, how it can be managed,

755
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 3: and how you can communicate it really effectively, like you

756
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 3: and have a really great communication strategy around when you're

757
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 3: both anxious or tired or sad or Unwell. Yeah, I've

758
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 3: learned a lot being able to kind of identify a

759
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 3: lot of things about myself, Like you know, like I

760
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 3: went through a really dark stage when I was like eighteen,

761
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 3: which comes and comes in ebbs and flows now, but

762
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 3: it's not at all a consistent part of my psyche.

763
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 3: I'm not always like depressed, and I'm not always anxious,

764
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 3: but it still comes back up every now and then.

765
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 3: And then you've taught me all these ways that I

766
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 3: can manage it or strategize around it and be open

767
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 3: about it and be pretty I'm not proud of it,

768
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 3: like I guess proud, but just wear it. I'm asleep,

769
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 3: like I don't care if people know about it or

770
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 3: whatever it is, because had I not known about it

771
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 3: through you, then I wouldn't have learned about it through myself.

772
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 3: And I think there's a lot of young kids out

773
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 3: there that are feeling weights and they don't understand it

774
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 3: and they don't know what it is. Depression can look

775
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 3: like so many things. Depression can look like a dirty

776
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 3: and messy room that's actually a symptom, you know, and

777
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 3: or tiredness or sleepiness or that can all be symptoms

778
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 3: as well. It's not always that you're just I think

779
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 3: people think it's just like a lot of morbid sadness

780
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 3: all the time, and sometimes it doesn't.

781
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 5: Look like that.

782
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 6: Yeah.

783
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Speaker 1: I think that's been one of my biggest breakthroughs in

784
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: understanding it, is that it manifests so differently for everyone,

785
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: and that it's not always just emotions, like the physiological

786
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 1: lifestyle symptoms can be a really telling indicator like breathing,

787
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: like numb arms or tingly legs, or focus, and yeah,

788
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: all that kind of thing has been really really important.

789
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't really know what my point is,

790
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: but I think just talking about it more is such

791
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: a good place to start. And there are so many

792
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,959
Speaker 1: amazing initiatives going on throughout this month, throughout the year.

793
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: If anyone does need help, there are amazing free twenty

794
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: four seven anonymous advice and support lines. Beyond Blue is

795
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 1: one three hundred two two four six three six. I'll

796
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 1: put it in the show notes as well, and Lifeline

797
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: is thirteen or eleven fourteen, and then there are so

798
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: many other targeted help lines as well that I will

799
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: of course put all the links in the show notes.

800
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: And something really lovely in the neighborhood that someone is

801
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: doing our past guest and dear friend Lincoln Eunice, who

802
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: has been on the show. I think it was two

803
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 1: years ago now, oh my gosh, two years.

804
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 3: I love Lincoln.

805
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 4: Ah, he's the greatest.

806
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: So he is currently doing the ten Challenge. He's running

807
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: ten k's every single day of this month, with an

808
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: aim to raise ten thousand dollars that will be split

809
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: between Lifeline and Beyond Blue. So he's raising funds for

810
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: mental health awareness and suicide prevention. I cannot believe he's

811
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: running ten kilometers every single day. I think we made

812
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: of I can't children fifty dollars donation the other day

813
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 1: or something, but I'd love the neighborhood to get around him,

814
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: or even just try and do your own ten challenge.

815
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 1: It's ten thousand step challenge. You can do the ten

816
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: k's if you want, or you can just donate and

817
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: share the challenge to support him. I'll pop the links

818
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: in the show notes as well.

819
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 3: I think it's hard to say about raising awareness is

820
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,959
Speaker 3: such a big part of it to destigmatize things about

821
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 3: mental health. It's really nice to see a lot of

822
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 3: I guess big names get around it. But to be honest,

823
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 3: I think one of the best things we can do

824
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 3: for ourselves and for other people is just be a

825
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 3: little bit more sympathetic and compassionate towards other people, regardless

826
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Speaker 3: regardless of if they have mental health concerns or issues

827
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 3: or problems or illnesses. I think there's a lot to

828
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 3: say just about being a nicer person absolutely, or think

829
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 3: about things that we say, or sometimes apologize. I think

830
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 3: it's okay to apologize. So you say something wrong and

831
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 3: it didn't come out right, it's okay to just be like,

832
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 3: I'm really sorry, I didn't mean it like that, and

833
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 3: that's that'll be more to that person than you think

834
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 3: it does. Or like we said last time, we were

835
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 3: talking about, you know, appreciating your people that around you.

836
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 3: There's so much to say and there's so many benefits

837
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 3: of just telling the people.

838
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: That you love that you loved, oh totally.

839
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 3: It's like they could be they could be struggling, and

840
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 3: they could be, you know, just in a bit of

841
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 3: a rut, and that's all they need to hear is

842
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 3: to feel valued and to feel loved and to feel appreciated,

843
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 3: even if it's by one person. Yeah, and I don't

844
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 3: think there's any day that's there's no day that it's

845
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 3: It doesn't it's not helpful. Even if they are really happy,

846
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 3: in a really good spot, then still tell them that

847
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 3: you love them. Like it's just such a powerful thing

848
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 3: and it's free, it's free, it's easy. Anyone can do it.

849
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 3: It just I don't know. I think it's I think

850
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 3: everyone should go out right now tell someone that they

851
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 3: love that they love them, like that's your project for today.

852
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 3: Do it because I'm sure it will make someone's day,

853
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 3: and the next minute in my inbox, I love you

854
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 3: and I love you.

855
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: An So the two or three neighborhood Watch items for

856
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: this week are actually really closely linked to all of that,

857
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: to telling people you love them, to being a little

858
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: bit kind and always defaulting to extra kindness if you

859
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: have a choice. I think another quote that I love

860
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: is that if you have a choice between being kind

861
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: or being right, choose being kind and you'll always be right,

862
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: which I think is such a lovely one, one of

863
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: them that just right, So well, I'm always right, so

864
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: that's always wonderfault. One really really sweet thing that has

865
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: come out in Dutch supermarket chains is they have opened

866
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: chat registers for elderly or lonely customers who just want

867
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: a friend to chat to or someone to have a

868
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: little conversation with. Isn't that so cute? So you can

869
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: go through the chat register if you just want to

870
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 1: have a chat. Isn't that the sweetest thing you've ever heard?

871
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 3: Every time you go away, every time you go away.

872
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, I have no friends to the lonely aisle.

873
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: How sweet is that, though, Like, what a simple, beautiful

874
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: way to provide a forum for someone to just have

875
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: a quick conversation if they want connection with someone who's

876
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: willing to have a connection and a conversation with them.

877
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 4: I think that is so beautiful.

878
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 3: That's really cute. I'm not being rid. I'm looking for

879
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 3: the meme that you sent to me about having only

880
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 3: two friends, but you can going.

881
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: Next one and the other one was from Denmark.

882
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 6: There.

883
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: I think I've mentioned this one before, but it's the

884
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: libraries where you can borrow a person instead of a book,

885
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: to listen to their life story for thirty minutes. And

886
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: the goal is to fight as we were mentioning, like

887
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: prejudice or judgment or otherness. And each person has a title.

888
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: It's either unemployed or refugee or bipolar or something that is,

889
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: you know, an area that's often misunderstood or stigmatized and

890
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: where people get judged. You know, that whole ethos of

891
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: don't judge a book by its cover. And the project

892
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: is now active in fifty countries. It's called the Human Library,

893
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: which for someone like me who loves Human interest stories

894
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: is like the most amazing library you could ever go

895
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: to to just chat to interesting humans. And apparently there's

896
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: one in Perth and one in Queensland. I did not

897
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: know that it was in Australia.

898
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,919
Speaker 3: That's gonna say. Is it any in Melbourne.

899
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: I don't think there's one in Melbourne yet. And also

900
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: we're in lockdown, so we probably couldn't actually go into

901
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: a library, but it would be really cute if we

902
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: could start it when things open up again.

903
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 4: That would be so lovely.

904
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 3: You really sounds so funny. I thought you said free,

905
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 3: as in the cheese human bri.

906
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: I think that was my Internet. I said human library,

907
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: not human.

908
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 6: Bre humane, and I was like, okay, cool, I can't.

909
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: And the other good news story I found, which is

910
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:24,959
Speaker 1: totally random and not related to any of those things,

911
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: but the w HO just to proved the world's first

912
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: malaria vaccine, which is absolutely extraordinary, and I think we'll

913
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: save so many lives around the world, and it's so exciting,

914
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: and it's so flip and hard to find good news

915
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: stories in amongst all the negative craps. So this Neighborhood

916
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: Watch section is my little protest against all the bad

917
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 1: news that we hear, because I think that was really

918
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: really exciting for humanity.

919
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 3: All my good news stories have just been like my

920
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 3: close friends doing amazing.

921
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 4: And she did a good Todays.

922
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 3: No, but if you said and I did a good

923
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: I'll be like, oh my god, best have my life,

924
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 3: Like I get so excited for other people.

925
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: Well, actually, people love you so much that we will

926
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 1: get to this in a minute. But we have put

927
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: a call out for third anniversary episode questions, and one

928
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: of the questions I got asked was would you rather

929
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: spend Lockdown for a month with Paul only or and only?

930
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 3: Well, Paul wasn't talk so after a day you'd be like,

931
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 3: give me Paul is my child? Yeah, it's might have

932
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 3: That's true.

933
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: That's true.

934
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 3: This was the meme that you sent to Nick and I.

935
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 3: Having a small circle is cool until your two friends

936
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 3: are business one of us.

937
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: But he tried to FaceTime both of us at the

938
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: same time, like eight times, and we're both busy and You're.

939
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 3: Just like and I just like you know that mean

940
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 3: where the dogs sitting on the end of the bed

941
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 3: with the talent head the.

942
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 4: Yeah after he shows and every time you guys did

943
00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 4: pick up.

944
00:45:58,719 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 3: I was like.

945
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 4: That memes so describes Nick.

946
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: They've used that picture for a meme where it's like

947
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: when you get out of the shower, but then you

948
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: sat in your tail, naked on the bed staring at

949
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: the wall for twenty five minutes.

950
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, that's what I do every time I

951
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 4: get other shower. So, oh my gosh, and what do

952
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 4: you have any recommendations?

953
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 3: But I feel like I do, but I wasn't very

954
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 3: prepared today to save them and tell you about them.

955
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 4: So no, it's the answer all those.

956
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 3: I really like squid Game. I think there's a lot

957
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 3: of contention around this. Some people really hated squid Game.

958
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 3: I really love squid Game, and I don't like gore

959
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 3: or gruesomeness, but we love Korea, I mean even infinity

960
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 3: to them. So I'd love to know what people think

961
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 3: about squid Game. I think there should be a forum

962
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 3: in your comments.

963
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 4: Oh wow, let's.

964
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 3: Do that next minute. Your comments section is like all reviews, yes,

965
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 3: squid game.

966
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 1: Everyone's so confused, yeah, says the reviews. I really loved

967
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: squid Game. Korean television is great. I've only watched one episode.

968
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 3: You can't watch it with English. That's not authentic. Authentic,

969
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 3: I can't, but you have to watch it with Korean

970
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 3: and English subtitle.

971
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 1: Okay. I've heard that there's like a lot of uproar

972
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: about how inaccurate the dubbing is compared to the subtitles.

973
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 3: No, it's not. It's not about the inaccuracy. It's just

974
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 3: about the authenticity of watching it. If you watch Kate

975
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 3: Drama ever, you never watch it with English dubbing.

976
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 4: Okay.

977
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 5: It's like when I watch BTS, I just watch so

978
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 5: much cultural education in this episode and very last call out,

979
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 5: So obviously, we had a really great response when we

980
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 5: put out call outs for nominations for the Aborhood two

981
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 5: weeks ago, and then we put out call out last

982
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 5: week for voice recordings of questions for the third anniversary episode.

983
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: Because of every milestone episode, I do a Q and

984
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: A on anything on the podcast on Life, on What's

985
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: Happened in the last three years, Anything, and I thought

986
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: it'd be nice for people if they wanted to have

987
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 1: their voice on the podcast to send their voice recording

988
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: in of the question. We've had a grand total of

989
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: zero submissions of voice notes so far, so so I

990
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: won't force anyone to put their voice on the podcast,

991
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 1: because obviously no one wants to do that, which is

992
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: absolutely fine. It was a lovely idea, but I obviously

993
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 1: understand super awkward. We will just be taking submissions normally

994
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: of written questions of anything.

995
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 4: You would like to ask.

996
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: I've had about fifty so far, and they're all pretty hilarious,

997
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: and most most.

998
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 4: Of them are about and is it fully open fully

999
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 4: open book?

1000
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: I'm always fully open books, except the people just ask

1001
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: like not really open book questions.

1002
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 3: But people people say I'm open book, but then they're

1003
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 3: still filter. So sometimes people think, like, is a truly

1004
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 3: open book? Like can I ask.

1005
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 4: You about turtleheads?

1006
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1007
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: I've just spent like twenty minutes of this episode talking

1008
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 1: about Pooh, so like.

1009
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 3: Even more like you know, I don't know, orphanage life.

1010
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 1: Like oh yeah remember, but really yeah, adoption anything, adoption,

1011
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 1: it's coming up to a two year wedding anniversary, relationship stuff,

1012
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: how I cope with ange, you know, in our relationship,

1013
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: Like it's really hard. You can't demit questions your but

1014
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 1: but Ane's going to have to read me the question.

1015
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: She's going to have to read them out, So you

1016
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: could maybe you could submit them to her, so I

1017
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: won't know that. Yes, please submit them to Oh my god.

1018
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 3: Submit them to me, but please don't please don't put

1019
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 3: too many metaphors.

1020
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 4: She won't understand.

1021
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: And if you're going to ask it in Korean, then

1022
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: say it in Korean, but use English captions.

1023
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 3: Yes, correct matachet.

1024
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love Banoi so much? Can boy

1025
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: be on it? I really want to do an episode with.

1026
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 4: Her one day.

1027
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 1: She would be so amazing.

1028
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you did do one with your mom.

1029
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 3: That's long over due.

1030
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:45,919
Speaker 4: You know I did it.

1031
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: You know I did one with mum. I recorded the

1032
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: entire thing, and then she got really she got like

1033
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: vulnerability hangover and she didn't want to release it.

1034
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 3: I would. I think we should do a vote.

1035
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: We did a vote, which is what made her get

1036
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: on it. She was like, no one wants to hear me.

1037
00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: So I did a vote, and then like, I had

1038
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: five votes for Rizzy to come on the show. So

1039
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: she recorded it and then she you know what she's like,

1040
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: she has such imposter syndrome. She was like, no, I

1041
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: just I feel like I sound silly. She sounded amazing,

1042
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: told the whole adoption story, and then she wouldn't let

1043
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: me release it. So, oh I'm rezy.

1044
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, that's our new smart goal for the end

1045
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 3: of the year.

1046
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's such a sweetie. Maybe she could just answer

1047
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: like individual questions, like one or two questions instead of

1048
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,280
Speaker 1: a full episode, because I thought it'd be so interesting.

1049
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: She grew up in such a different generation. She always

1050
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: tells me stories about it. I was like, I think

1051
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: people would want to know.

1052
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 3: I found an adoption process really interesting, saying I would

1053
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 3: love to adopt one day. So will work?

1054
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: And yeah, amazing, amazing. All right, Bimball, thank you so

1055
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: much for joining for another episode of years of our lives.

1056
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: We always go like so I'm always like, oh, just

1057
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: half an out, so busy, and then an hour later

1058
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: we're still gasbagging about turtleheads.

1059
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 3: Please if you have to do oh my god.

1060
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 4: I'm absolutely leaving it in.

1061
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: If nothing everyone today you learned a new term or

1062
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: you clarified that it wasn't what did you call.

1063
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 3: It to skivvy?

1064
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: Hey, that could be our new COVID skivvy? Like, how's

1065
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 1: it on?

1066
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 4: I love their skivvy on a scale of where are you?

1067
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 4: Oh my god?

1068
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: Well, thanks so much for joining BIM and next week

1069
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 1: to the of Our Lives will be the third anniversary episode,

1070
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: So you have what six, five or six days to

1071
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: submit your questions because we record on the day that

1072
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: we release the episode and don't edit it.

1073
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 4: Maybe we'll try and be a little bit more organized

1074
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 4: next week.

1075
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: Probably not.

1076
00:51:49,719 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 4: Okay, bye bye,