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Speaker 1: You're listening to a mother with mea podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hey you bes, that's Molly here from the Beauty Edit

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Speaker 2: bringing you an episode of Nothing to Wear. Even though

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Speaker 2: you're a beauty lover, you might.

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Speaker 3: Also be a fashion lover like me. So have a

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Speaker 3: listen and let us know what you think. Whoever said

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Speaker 3: orange is a new pink with seriously.

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Speaker 2: To Syrup Laurels for spraying groundbreaking. Oh my god, you have.

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Speaker 3: To do it.

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Speaker 2: You live for fashion.

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Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that

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Speaker 3: solves fashion.

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Speaker 1: Problems and levels up your wardrobe.

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Speaker 3: I'm Tamara Holland and each week we talk about all

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Speaker 3: things style and how to get more out of the

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Speaker 3: worth adding to our wardrobes. This week I am joined

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Speaker 3: by a very exciting return guest. It's the one and

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Speaker 3: only Grace Lamb. She is a fashion powerhouse. She is

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Speaker 3: a stylist who's worked with some of the biggest names

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Speaker 3: in the industry. Name is celebrity, She's probably been styling them.

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Speaker 3: She is a force of fashion. She's also a fountain

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Speaker 3: of style advice and inspiration for how to express yourself

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Speaker 3: through clothes. She has an inimitable personal style and she's

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Speaker 3: just a funny, funny lady. She is one of the

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Speaker 3: hosts of Mamma Mer's brand new podcast, Unleashed, which is

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Speaker 3: a podcast for women of the gen X persuasion. It's fun,

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Speaker 3: a funny listen. It's all about adding a bit of

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Speaker 3: So we're very excited that that show has just rolled out.

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Speaker 3: But today Grace and I are going to be talking

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Speaker 3: about Valentine's Day. And I know not everyone celebrates Valentine's

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Speaker 3: Day in the same way. You might be single, you

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Speaker 3: that is really where Grace shines. So I'm welcoming Grace

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Speaker 3: back to the show today and I hope you enjoy. Grace,

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the show. I am such a big

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Speaker 3: fan of yours. Thank you for joining us again to

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Speaker 3: share some more of your amazing style wisdom with us.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for inviting me again. I'm surprised you inviting

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Speaker 2: me again with this motormouth.

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Speaker 3: Now we love it. The more, the more, the merrier. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So let's before we get into the topic. There's two

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Speaker 3: the first one is what has been like your biggest

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Speaker 2: I mean a girl like hoping. You know, I love

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Speaker 2: this French brand. Cause is a jewelry brand. Yes, and

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Speaker 1: It's high end jewelry, high and jewelry.

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Speaker 2: I mean, not that I can afford like those princess

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Speaker 1: I mean where are we wearing a tiara these days?

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Speaker 2: So I love the necklaces, you know, the the little

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Speaker 2: And so I have a lot of necklaces and like

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Speaker 3: So that's where you like to invest your money. Exactly,

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Speaker 3: exactly beautiful and okay, talk to us about is there

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Speaker 2: Mean there's so many I have my notes here because

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Speaker 3: What do you like to call yourself?

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Speaker 2: I think first and first, you have to be more

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Speaker 2: even though if you've got a really sick outfit, it's

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Speaker 1: So how do we use confidence in something as simple

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Speaker 2: I think cohesive outfit is really key. When you look

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Speaker 2: Yes? Pairing worth something maybe your shoes or your jewelry,

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Speaker 1: And what does that do like for the someone who's

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Speaker 1: You know what? Why is repeating an accent so important?

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Speaker 2: Because it looks like you've thought about it, uh huh

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Speaker 1: You've squirreled away half an hour.

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Speaker 3: We've all had a wardrobe melt down before, we've had

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Speaker 3: Well, well, I know, feeling good in your outfit that

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Speaker 1: We're going to pull it out, so you have clarity.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, I love that idea of packaging up the

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Speaker 2: I mean, think about it like prepet meals.

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Speaker 3: Talk to me about accessories. So if we just hear

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Speaker 2: Are these lifts? There's now them? Honestly? Love it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's such a good lesson, especially kind

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Speaker 1: That's the man to all we're taking into twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. Okay, it's a new year. As we said, I

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Speaker 3: How do we do that? Talk to me about building

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, kind of for that year. Yes.

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Speaker 3: First of all, I play them on me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I also asked last time when I came on

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Speaker 2: So let's say the slip dress, right, you've got a

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Speaker 2: Most women will go for high heels, right, Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: Very cute, loads of cute choices. I think people find

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Speaker 3: But I love the idea of peering it back with pink.

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00:19:34,994 --> 00:19:36,714
Speaker 3: I know that's a combination. I do a lot but

438
00:19:36,834 --> 00:19:39,194
Speaker 3: sometimes just like with an oversized pink shirt with a

439
00:19:39,274 --> 00:19:40,114
Speaker 3: red loose pan.

440
00:19:41,074 --> 00:19:43,674
Speaker 2: So, speaking of pink shirt, I bought a pre love

441
00:19:43,754 --> 00:19:46,634
Speaker 2: shirt from a charity shop in Perth while I was

442
00:19:46,674 --> 00:19:49,834
Speaker 2: living there, and because there's nothing to buy in perfectly.

443
00:19:50,434 --> 00:19:52,474
Speaker 3: There's a few luxury boutiques and then there's just like

444
00:19:52,554 --> 00:19:54,874
Speaker 3: nothing else right then and then I'm sure the Perth

445
00:19:54,954 --> 00:19:56,834
Speaker 3: listners would have something to say about that, but maybe

446
00:19:56,874 --> 00:19:57,594
Speaker 3: they can guide us.

447
00:19:57,754 --> 00:19:59,914
Speaker 2: What I find myself doing is that I would just

448
00:19:59,954 --> 00:20:02,354
Speaker 2: buy something that I don't normally buy because because I

449
00:20:02,554 --> 00:20:04,674
Speaker 2: want to buy something there anyway. It's not about perf

450
00:20:04,914 --> 00:20:07,874
Speaker 2: It is so oversized that I love, so I wear

451
00:20:07,954 --> 00:20:10,834
Speaker 2: it like a dress and then I will put a

452
00:20:10,874 --> 00:20:13,634
Speaker 2: belt in the middle and a pair of a lidive

453
00:20:13,794 --> 00:20:17,954
Speaker 2: kitten heel cute. Always for socks, even in a summer,

454
00:20:18,034 --> 00:20:21,594
Speaker 2: I will suffer for fashion. I will have athlete foods

455
00:20:21,634 --> 00:20:25,434
Speaker 2: because of that. Socks elevate and so much. I can't

456
00:20:25,514 --> 00:20:28,434
Speaker 2: stress that enough because even if you wear something all

457
00:20:28,474 --> 00:20:31,234
Speaker 2: black and you have a bright part of yellow socks,

458
00:20:31,354 --> 00:20:33,594
Speaker 2: it just pops out with a yellow back or good

459
00:20:33,634 --> 00:20:33,794
Speaker 2: to go.

460
00:20:43,274 --> 00:20:45,194
Speaker 3: You've mentioned a few times that you you know when

461
00:20:45,234 --> 00:20:47,474
Speaker 3: you go into women's wardrobes. And I know that you're offering,

462
00:20:47,674 --> 00:20:51,074
Speaker 3: you offer personalized styling services for women with different lifestyles

463
00:20:51,114 --> 00:20:54,034
Speaker 3: and different needs, But what does that actually look like?

464
00:20:54,154 --> 00:20:56,194
Speaker 3: If I booked you to come in, come to my

465
00:20:56,314 --> 00:20:58,954
Speaker 3: house and come into my wardrobe, what is the process

466
00:20:59,034 --> 00:20:59,434
Speaker 3: from there?

467
00:20:59,474 --> 00:21:00,074
Speaker 1: How does it work?

468
00:21:00,154 --> 00:21:02,594
Speaker 2: So normally I will ask my client, you know, please

469
00:21:02,634 --> 00:21:04,354
Speaker 2: put aside of things that you don't know how to

470
00:21:04,434 --> 00:21:07,434
Speaker 2: wear and you don't wear anymore, because you need to

471
00:21:07,474 --> 00:21:09,994
Speaker 2: tackle those things that you always wear. Of course I'll

472
00:21:09,994 --> 00:21:12,594
Speaker 2: look at it, but those are not the problem. The

473
00:21:12,714 --> 00:21:14,914
Speaker 2: problem is things that you don't wear and you don't

474
00:21:14,954 --> 00:21:17,794
Speaker 2: know how to put it together. Okay, So I will

475
00:21:17,874 --> 00:21:20,034
Speaker 2: do that first, and then I will go in and

476
00:21:20,234 --> 00:21:22,074
Speaker 2: just kind of sus out straight because you know, everyone

477
00:21:22,154 --> 00:21:24,354
Speaker 2: I meet, I don't really know them right, so within

478
00:21:24,474 --> 00:21:26,834
Speaker 2: the first ten to fifteen minutes, I need to suck

479
00:21:26,874 --> 00:21:30,074
Speaker 2: them out. I mean it's kind of stressful, but also

480
00:21:30,114 --> 00:21:32,754
Speaker 2: the same time really fun because it's so interesting to

481
00:21:32,794 --> 00:21:35,914
Speaker 2: look at people's wardrobe. And then I'm quite blunt, as

482
00:21:35,954 --> 00:21:37,554
Speaker 2: you can tell, so I'll be like, what the fuck

483
00:21:37,554 --> 00:21:40,474
Speaker 2: are you thinking? beIN? You know, stuff like that, and

484
00:21:41,154 --> 00:21:44,594
Speaker 2: they sometimes get so horrified or they go, oh, yeah,

485
00:21:45,314 --> 00:21:46,274
Speaker 2: I see what you're saying.

486
00:21:46,474 --> 00:21:46,834
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

487
00:21:47,074 --> 00:21:49,234
Speaker 2: So when they have that moment, that ding moment I

488
00:21:49,354 --> 00:21:51,754
Speaker 2: call it, it makes me so happy when they start

489
00:21:51,834 --> 00:21:57,314
Speaker 2: realizing that the creativity opens up and it's so fun

490
00:21:57,394 --> 00:22:00,914
Speaker 2: to watch. And I think going through people's wardrobe, I

491
00:22:00,994 --> 00:22:04,354
Speaker 2: don't really encourage buying straight away. I really like the

492
00:22:04,434 --> 00:22:08,194
Speaker 2: sustainable fashion ethos. But at the same time, who doesn't

493
00:22:08,234 --> 00:22:11,833
Speaker 2: like to have new things? I also encourage my clients,

494
00:22:11,874 --> 00:22:13,994
Speaker 2: Oh are you so you have to fill out a

495
00:22:14,034 --> 00:22:17,034
Speaker 2: questionnaire when you book me whether you are willing to

496
00:22:17,114 --> 00:22:19,354
Speaker 2: go pre love or not, because some people don't. I

497
00:22:19,434 --> 00:22:22,994
Speaker 2: mean my Chinese mother, bless her, she will never buy

498
00:22:23,034 --> 00:22:26,474
Speaker 2: anything secondhand because a ghost is in the top.

499
00:22:26,754 --> 00:22:29,273
Speaker 3: Clothing holds energy, doesn't it, and some people might be

500
00:22:29,394 --> 00:22:31,594
Speaker 3: less comfortable with that. I suppose yes, And.

501
00:22:31,674 --> 00:22:34,554
Speaker 2: You know Chinese people were very suspstitious. Yeah, I'm like, Ma,

502
00:22:35,434 --> 00:22:37,554
Speaker 2: that's like a vintage, like you know, a liar. What

503
00:22:37,594 --> 00:22:38,434
Speaker 2: are you talking about it?

504
00:22:39,194 --> 00:22:40,914
Speaker 3: And yeah, cop, the ghost, it's a liar.

505
00:22:41,154 --> 00:22:42,034
Speaker 2: She doesn't understand.

506
00:22:42,114 --> 00:22:44,274
Speaker 3: But okay, So whether we're buying you or or we're

507
00:22:44,274 --> 00:22:47,674
Speaker 3: buying secondhand, we're still introducing new styles to our wardrobes.

508
00:22:47,754 --> 00:22:49,954
Speaker 3: So do you like to go shopping with them or

509
00:22:50,114 --> 00:22:52,154
Speaker 3: shopping for them or do you take them along? Do

510
00:22:52,234 --> 00:22:53,754
Speaker 3: you like do they get in the change room and

511
00:22:53,794 --> 00:22:55,194
Speaker 3: try things on in front of you? How does that?

512
00:22:55,274 --> 00:22:57,353
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean I always say

513
00:22:57,394 --> 00:22:58,714
Speaker 2: to them, they get a bitch. I'm like, you've got Tis,

514
00:22:58,794 --> 00:23:01,033
Speaker 2: I've got Tis, I've got Pronini. It's fine, we're all

515
00:23:01,074 --> 00:23:04,273
Speaker 2: the same. Let's open up. Otherwise, relationship it's going to

516
00:23:04,354 --> 00:23:08,114
Speaker 2: answeron you know. So they I love going shopping with

517
00:23:08,194 --> 00:23:10,074
Speaker 2: them because I get to hang out with them. And

518
00:23:10,194 --> 00:23:12,594
Speaker 2: hopefully these are return clients, right, I need to get

519
00:23:12,634 --> 00:23:15,474
Speaker 2: to know them. Yeah, And for example, we're going to

520
00:23:15,514 --> 00:23:18,074
Speaker 2: a shop and I will tell them, please go and

521
00:23:18,154 --> 00:23:19,674
Speaker 2: pick up what you normally pick up because I need

522
00:23:19,714 --> 00:23:21,754
Speaker 2: to understand you. So I had one client who was

523
00:23:21,754 --> 00:23:26,434
Speaker 2: a professional, very I wouldn't want to call her boring,

524
00:23:26,514 --> 00:23:31,594
Speaker 2: but very safe. How she dresses like conservative, very conservative.

525
00:23:32,074 --> 00:23:34,954
Speaker 2: And then and I'm quite surprised she found me because

526
00:23:34,994 --> 00:23:36,594
Speaker 2: she was like, I want to change everything, you know,

527
00:23:36,634 --> 00:23:39,274
Speaker 2: I look at your Instagram blah blah. So then when

528
00:23:39,314 --> 00:23:41,714
Speaker 2: we went to the shop, she said, oh, I thought

529
00:23:42,314 --> 00:23:43,914
Speaker 2: the reason I hire you so you can pick up

530
00:23:43,914 --> 00:23:46,074
Speaker 2: stuff for me. I'm like, yes, at the same time,

531
00:23:46,234 --> 00:23:48,114
Speaker 2: I need to understand you. I need to get to

532
00:23:48,234 --> 00:23:49,714
Speaker 2: know you. How am I going to know you if

533
00:23:49,714 --> 00:23:51,634
Speaker 2: you don't pick up things and just see what you

534
00:23:51,714 --> 00:23:52,234
Speaker 2: pick normally.

535
00:23:52,314 --> 00:23:54,474
Speaker 3: And I suppose there's no point you just picking for

536
00:23:54,634 --> 00:23:56,994
Speaker 3: her because then they might not necessarily be the things

537
00:23:57,034 --> 00:23:59,033
Speaker 3: that she would reach for in her own wardrobe. If

538
00:23:59,074 --> 00:24:02,194
Speaker 3: she's got discomfort around them or doesn't understand why she

539
00:24:02,234 --> 00:24:04,313
Speaker 3: would wear those things, you need to kind of guide her,

540
00:24:04,394 --> 00:24:06,954
Speaker 3: and that starts with her showing you where she grabbed

541
00:24:07,394 --> 00:24:11,554
Speaker 3: towards right, You're someone who's always experimenting with your own

542
00:24:11,634 --> 00:24:15,154
Speaker 3: looks and that comes really naturally to you. Obviously you're

543
00:24:15,154 --> 00:24:17,674
Speaker 3: always adding interesting things to your wardrobe. You were saying

544
00:24:17,674 --> 00:24:19,314
Speaker 3: you were just in Japan and we had a little

545
00:24:19,354 --> 00:24:21,034
Speaker 3: powwow before our chat, and you said, you bought a

546
00:24:21,034 --> 00:24:23,833
Speaker 3: lot of stuff over there. What are some key pieces

547
00:24:23,914 --> 00:24:25,874
Speaker 3: that you're particularly loving at the moment.

548
00:24:26,674 --> 00:24:30,914
Speaker 2: When I went to Tokyo, I deliberately didn't buy anything

549
00:24:31,394 --> 00:24:33,914
Speaker 2: international designers, because that's not the reason why I went

550
00:24:33,954 --> 00:24:37,073
Speaker 2: to Tokyo. So I only bought things from Tokyo. Buy

551
00:24:37,234 --> 00:24:40,794
Speaker 2: Japanese designers, Japanese brand. So what I'm wearing today is

552
00:24:40,874 --> 00:24:43,754
Speaker 2: a really cool Japanese brand called and Real h A

553
00:24:44,074 --> 00:24:46,514
Speaker 2: N R E A l Age.

554
00:24:46,914 --> 00:24:50,554
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's the shirt you're wearing, the whole outfit shirt.

555
00:24:50,634 --> 00:24:52,874
Speaker 3: Such a cool Can you describe the shirt because it's

556
00:24:52,874 --> 00:24:55,274
Speaker 3: a bit of a twist on a traditional button down.

557
00:24:55,474 --> 00:24:58,674
Speaker 2: Yes, so it's a blue shirt with white buttons all

558
00:24:58,714 --> 00:25:01,594
Speaker 2: the way down. But how they designed a shirt, there's

559
00:25:01,594 --> 00:25:05,114
Speaker 2: a story behind it. This shirt can wrap. If you

560
00:25:05,194 --> 00:25:09,114
Speaker 2: wrap around this shirt huge round sphere like a bore,

561
00:25:09,554 --> 00:25:11,914
Speaker 2: it will fit because they designed it through like a

562
00:25:11,994 --> 00:25:15,674
Speaker 2: big gigantic board which they have hanging as a display

563
00:25:15,754 --> 00:25:16,234
Speaker 2: in the shop.

564
00:25:16,434 --> 00:25:18,034
Speaker 1: Oh wow, And what's the reason for that?

565
00:25:18,154 --> 00:25:20,754
Speaker 3: Because it's kind of like it's a sculptural sort of

566
00:25:20,874 --> 00:25:22,274
Speaker 3: design through the back of this shirt.

567
00:25:22,314 --> 00:25:24,114
Speaker 1: There's a lot of extra volume through it.

568
00:25:24,354 --> 00:25:27,594
Speaker 2: Yes, there's the big drape at the back, which is

569
00:25:27,914 --> 00:25:30,354
Speaker 2: a really nice detail as well as it's not like

570
00:25:30,394 --> 00:25:33,513
Speaker 2: a normal straight down button up shirt. It goes out

571
00:25:33,554 --> 00:25:35,634
Speaker 2: in the middle and it's like a circular. It's just

572
00:25:35,714 --> 00:25:39,354
Speaker 2: basically a new way of looking at a boring shirt.

573
00:25:39,234 --> 00:25:39,874
Speaker 1: A button down.

574
00:25:39,994 --> 00:25:40,354
Speaker 3: Yeseah.

575
00:25:40,434 --> 00:25:42,194
Speaker 1: I love that it's got that point of difference.

576
00:25:42,314 --> 00:25:43,034
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.

577
00:25:43,274 --> 00:25:43,474
Speaker 1: Yeah.

578
00:25:43,674 --> 00:25:47,354
Speaker 2: So when I bought this shirt, of course straight away

579
00:25:47,394 --> 00:25:49,354
Speaker 2: the next day I wore it, and I wore it

580
00:25:49,434 --> 00:25:51,994
Speaker 2: with the trousers I bought from the same brand, and

581
00:25:52,074 --> 00:25:55,394
Speaker 2: there's basically oversized trousers, but you can fold the side

582
00:25:55,954 --> 00:25:59,114
Speaker 2: in it looks like there's another layer of Trouser's so cool.

583
00:25:59,474 --> 00:26:01,794
Speaker 2: Real The amount of people that were looking at me, like,

584
00:26:01,834 --> 00:26:03,314
Speaker 2: you know, they thought I was Japanese and I was like,

585
00:26:03,354 --> 00:26:04,634
Speaker 2: oh my god, I've been validated as.

586
00:26:05,394 --> 00:26:09,154
Speaker 1: That day looks very mental. Tailoring is very Japanese.

587
00:26:09,314 --> 00:26:11,914
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, and what anything else that you're loving in

588
00:26:11,994 --> 00:26:13,794
Speaker 3: your wardrobe or that you've recently acquired.

589
00:26:13,834 --> 00:26:17,794
Speaker 2: Because of that trip, I was never like a tall

590
00:26:18,714 --> 00:26:22,714
Speaker 2: skirt person. And after that trip, I went to my

591
00:26:22,834 --> 00:26:25,114
Speaker 2: one of my favorite shops in Melbourne, Goodbyes. It's a

592
00:26:25,194 --> 00:26:27,954
Speaker 2: pre love shop, and there was like a long skirt

593
00:26:28,034 --> 00:26:31,434
Speaker 2: which is like a tall skirt and it's got ruffles

594
00:26:31,474 --> 00:26:33,914
Speaker 2: on top. To me, if you asked me five years ago,

595
00:26:33,954 --> 00:26:35,314
Speaker 2: I was like, no way, I'm going to buy that

596
00:26:35,674 --> 00:26:40,874
Speaker 2: rule exactly so not me. Yeah, however, I said to myself,

597
00:26:41,194 --> 00:26:44,194
Speaker 2: buy it, push yourself, so I did, so I will

598
00:26:44,234 --> 00:26:46,194
Speaker 2: wear it with my jeans that I'm wearing now, it's

599
00:26:46,234 --> 00:26:50,834
Speaker 2: that you know, oversized unicloth underneath the skirt. Oh wow.

600
00:26:51,034 --> 00:26:53,914
Speaker 2: And I pair it with like a black and white

601
00:26:54,394 --> 00:26:56,834
Speaker 2: a top I got from Conde Gaza. It's all distressed,

602
00:26:57,674 --> 00:27:00,354
Speaker 2: so it's a black and white top worth the black

603
00:27:00,394 --> 00:27:04,114
Speaker 2: toiled skirt, so that color already goes together, right, got it?

604
00:27:04,594 --> 00:27:06,714
Speaker 2: But normally you'll wear nothing underneath and you wear a

605
00:27:06,754 --> 00:27:09,314
Speaker 2: pair of here, that's what normal people do. I'm abnormal.

606
00:27:09,474 --> 00:27:11,874
Speaker 2: So I want to pair it with a really cool

607
00:27:11,914 --> 00:27:15,754
Speaker 2: pair of jeans, oversize worth you know what, I'm wearing,

608
00:27:15,794 --> 00:27:18,634
Speaker 2: the Merry Jane or something more chunky.

609
00:27:19,114 --> 00:27:21,274
Speaker 1: Okay, it's again that contrast.

610
00:27:21,354 --> 00:27:23,514
Speaker 3: Yeah, the contract talk to me about the dress over jeans,

611
00:27:23,514 --> 00:27:25,114
Speaker 3: because I feel like this is I know you're like,

612
00:27:25,234 --> 00:27:27,794
Speaker 3: you're not super into following trends, but I feel like

613
00:27:27,874 --> 00:27:30,634
Speaker 3: for our audience, if this is a trend, perhaps that's

614
00:27:30,714 --> 00:27:32,874
Speaker 3: emerging that they want to want to try themselves. And

615
00:27:32,954 --> 00:27:34,754
Speaker 3: even when you're going out, I feel like we're seeing

616
00:27:34,794 --> 00:27:37,793
Speaker 3: a lot more like long tunics to wear over jeans

617
00:27:37,874 --> 00:27:40,434
Speaker 3: or wear over pants. How would you suggest going about

618
00:27:40,514 --> 00:27:43,114
Speaker 3: just dipping a toe into that trend? If you're not

619
00:27:43,154 --> 00:27:44,793
Speaker 3: ready for a tool skirt over jeans.

620
00:27:45,074 --> 00:27:47,994
Speaker 2: So a lot of women will have probably have like

621
00:27:48,034 --> 00:27:51,154
Speaker 2: a slip dress or like a lace dress. I wear

622
00:27:51,274 --> 00:27:55,554
Speaker 2: my lingerie dress out, yeah, to go out as well,

623
00:27:55,954 --> 00:27:58,114
Speaker 2: So I will pair it worth, you know, a pair

624
00:27:58,154 --> 00:28:02,394
Speaker 2: of jeans underneath so it looks more street style trainers,

625
00:28:02,594 --> 00:28:05,354
Speaker 2: and then I'll throwing like my oversized dwnim jacket just

626
00:28:05,394 --> 00:28:08,114
Speaker 2: to make it a bit more cool. I think for

627
00:28:08,274 --> 00:28:12,834
Speaker 2: people who are not used to challenging themselves, just try

628
00:28:12,994 --> 00:28:15,714
Speaker 2: something or pick something we don't want. My favorite thing

629
00:28:15,754 --> 00:28:17,434
Speaker 2: to do now is to pick something from my husband's

630
00:28:17,474 --> 00:28:19,714
Speaker 2: boring wardrobe and show him what I can do with it.

631
00:28:19,914 --> 00:28:21,874
Speaker 3: Ah, that's so cool. Where you start?

632
00:28:21,914 --> 00:28:24,954
Speaker 1: What are the pieces you gravitate towards from his water shirts?

633
00:28:25,154 --> 00:28:28,114
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of shirts. I mean he is, He's

634
00:28:28,234 --> 00:28:31,434
Speaker 2: not a huge guy. He's quite slim built. But at

635
00:28:31,474 --> 00:28:33,273
Speaker 2: the same time, you know, he wears that Mitza in

636
00:28:33,474 --> 00:28:36,354
Speaker 2: medium or like large sized shirts, and I love borrowing

637
00:28:36,434 --> 00:28:39,994
Speaker 2: his shirts because it looks so big on me. But

638
00:28:40,114 --> 00:28:40,834
Speaker 2: it's intentional.

639
00:28:41,074 --> 00:28:43,274
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so I go back to intention You're not

640
00:28:43,354 --> 00:28:45,434
Speaker 3: just throwing on an oversized shirt with no sort of

641
00:28:45,514 --> 00:28:46,114
Speaker 3: thought behind it.

642
00:28:46,274 --> 00:28:48,834
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So I will wear like an oversized shirt.

643
00:28:48,834 --> 00:28:51,034
Speaker 2: I mean for Valentine's So why not just pick something

644
00:28:51,074 --> 00:28:54,354
Speaker 2: from your husband's or your partner's wardrobe and change it

645
00:28:54,554 --> 00:28:55,354
Speaker 2: and make it yours.

646
00:28:55,514 --> 00:28:56,274
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's cool.

647
00:28:56,554 --> 00:28:57,714
Speaker 2: I think that's really cool.

648
00:28:57,834 --> 00:28:59,914
Speaker 3: You're inspiring me. I want to do like an oversized

649
00:28:59,914 --> 00:29:01,994
Speaker 3: shirt with a little short, like a little tiny short,

650
00:29:02,074 --> 00:29:05,074
Speaker 3: big chunky heel that kind oftly Okay. Let's talk about

651
00:29:05,114 --> 00:29:08,234
Speaker 3: maybe the styles that you're not into, if you feel

652
00:29:08,274 --> 00:29:12,154
Speaker 3: comfortable going there, what are like the Nogo at the time.

653
00:29:12,194 --> 00:29:15,634
Speaker 2: I don't know why people love a cutout. I mean

654
00:29:15,874 --> 00:29:18,234
Speaker 2: it's my pet peeve. I mean, is it because they

655
00:29:18,234 --> 00:29:20,394
Speaker 2: don't have enough material to finish the dress? Or what?

656
00:29:20,634 --> 00:29:22,714
Speaker 3: Is it like a little window in your dress? Is

657
00:29:22,754 --> 00:29:23,394
Speaker 3: that what you're talking?

658
00:29:25,674 --> 00:29:28,074
Speaker 2: I mean, why why? I just don't get it.

659
00:29:28,354 --> 00:29:32,714
Speaker 3: Okay, that's a good one. Let's talk about brands, you know, when,

660
00:29:32,954 --> 00:29:34,954
Speaker 3: especially when it comes to dressing up. What are some

661
00:29:35,114 --> 00:29:37,914
Speaker 3: brands that you know, you feel maybe in this market

662
00:29:38,074 --> 00:29:39,474
Speaker 3: are really nailing it right now?

663
00:29:39,634 --> 00:29:41,674
Speaker 1: Or you can go with international brands as well.

664
00:29:42,474 --> 00:29:45,754
Speaker 2: So the Japanese brand I spoke about before and Real Age,

665
00:29:46,074 --> 00:29:47,954
Speaker 2: really check them out. They also have quite a lot

666
00:29:47,994 --> 00:29:51,594
Speaker 2: of high technology pieces, which is very interesting. Check out

667
00:29:51,634 --> 00:29:55,634
Speaker 2: the fashion show is really great. Watch and another designer

668
00:29:55,674 --> 00:30:00,154
Speaker 2: brand which is it's not overly pricey, is just maybe

669
00:30:00,314 --> 00:30:04,514
Speaker 2: mid range called Prank Project from Tokyo. Okay, Oh my god.

670
00:30:04,554 --> 00:30:07,514
Speaker 2: When I went to that shop, I spent an hour

671
00:30:07,554 --> 00:30:10,794
Speaker 2: and a half there just to like browse for everything.

672
00:30:11,034 --> 00:30:13,554
Speaker 2: Tried everything prank as in like P A n K.

673
00:30:14,714 --> 00:30:17,754
Speaker 2: Very fun pieces and I love how they style, like

674
00:30:17,874 --> 00:30:22,674
Speaker 2: the lacey dress with baggy jeans and a T shirt underneath? Cool,

675
00:30:22,914 --> 00:30:23,314
Speaker 2: very cool?

676
00:30:23,394 --> 00:30:25,234
Speaker 3: Can we get that here or would you have to?

677
00:30:25,314 --> 00:30:26,394
Speaker 2: They have an online shop.

678
00:30:26,434 --> 00:30:27,114
Speaker 3: Okay, good to know.

679
00:30:27,434 --> 00:30:29,994
Speaker 2: So now that I live in Melbourne, let's talk about

680
00:30:29,994 --> 00:30:32,474
Speaker 2: a Melbourne brand, Daring d E E R I G.

681
00:30:32,674 --> 00:30:36,994
Speaker 2: They're very cool brand and they have a matching outfit

682
00:30:37,194 --> 00:30:42,114
Speaker 2: of like plaid checked shirt, tie pans. Is a lot

683
00:30:42,194 --> 00:30:44,714
Speaker 2: to look at, but it is so cool. So you

684
00:30:44,794 --> 00:30:45,514
Speaker 2: check out that brand.

685
00:30:45,834 --> 00:30:48,514
Speaker 3: I love Deering, I love what she's doing erin Daring

686
00:30:48,554 --> 00:30:51,354
Speaker 3: the designer. I just think she's got that edge to

687
00:30:51,474 --> 00:30:55,914
Speaker 3: her styling, particularly like she seems to style her clothes

688
00:30:56,594 --> 00:30:58,914
Speaker 3: the way that she dresses and it really comes through.

689
00:30:59,034 --> 00:31:02,954
Speaker 3: And I love watching her Instagram for inspiration as well. Yeah,

690
00:31:03,074 --> 00:31:05,274
Speaker 3: like the design is really inspired by her own way

691
00:31:05,354 --> 00:31:08,994
Speaker 3: of dressing, and the pieces have that edge to them

692
00:31:09,034 --> 00:31:12,754
Speaker 3: where they're like tailored classics but with a twist totally,

693
00:31:12,914 --> 00:31:13,154
Speaker 3: and I.

694
00:31:13,194 --> 00:31:14,954
Speaker 2: Think she of course she has some like you know,

695
00:31:15,114 --> 00:31:19,834
Speaker 2: like some sexy dresses as well, but her masculine outfits

696
00:31:20,434 --> 00:31:21,234
Speaker 2: she's got a spot on.

697
00:31:21,634 --> 00:31:22,074
Speaker 3: That's cool.

698
00:31:22,114 --> 00:31:22,874
Speaker 1: I've got to check out that.

699
00:31:23,034 --> 00:31:26,474
Speaker 2: Check look. Yes, So another brand which is great from London,

700
00:31:26,754 --> 00:31:30,714
Speaker 2: my peeps, rixel Axol. They have very nice dresses but

701
00:31:31,834 --> 00:31:33,674
Speaker 2: you can say they're very girly, but at the same

702
00:31:33,714 --> 00:31:37,034
Speaker 2: time they have like vintage handpainted prints. Yeah, so it's

703
00:31:37,114 --> 00:31:39,834
Speaker 2: very special. They just have very nice style when you

704
00:31:39,914 --> 00:31:40,954
Speaker 2: want to go a bit romantic.

705
00:31:41,034 --> 00:31:42,914
Speaker 3: But like, so is the coolest, isn't it. It's like

706
00:31:43,074 --> 00:31:45,754
Speaker 3: for me, that's like the epitome of like cool girl. Yeah,

707
00:31:45,914 --> 00:31:50,114
Speaker 3: romantic London dressing. Yes, it's like slightly vintage inspired, but

708
00:31:50,234 --> 00:31:53,034
Speaker 3: the prince are so on point, yes, and really interesting

709
00:31:53,154 --> 00:31:53,514
Speaker 3: as well.

710
00:31:53,754 --> 00:31:55,034
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just such a good share.

711
00:31:55,074 --> 00:31:57,194
Speaker 2: It's very Londoner style. I love it.

712
00:31:57,474 --> 00:32:02,074
Speaker 3: Okay, Grace, you are the host of Mumu MEA's new podcast, Unleashed.

713
00:32:02,554 --> 00:32:05,594
Speaker 3: I'm so excited for this show. It's a podcast for

714
00:32:05,954 --> 00:32:09,114
Speaker 3: gen X women who want a laugh. They want helpful

715
00:32:09,674 --> 00:32:11,634
Speaker 3: but slightly unhinged advice.

716
00:32:12,794 --> 00:32:14,834
Speaker 1: Talk to us about that. How excited are you to

717
00:32:15,034 --> 00:32:15,594
Speaker 1: join the show?

718
00:32:15,834 --> 00:32:18,434
Speaker 2: I mean people that when I got invited to co

719
00:32:18,554 --> 00:32:21,914
Speaker 2: host a show with five other women, I'm like, did

720
00:32:21,994 --> 00:32:25,714
Speaker 2: I Is this a scam? Did I get to write email?

721
00:32:25,874 --> 00:32:28,154
Speaker 2: You know? Like, what do you mean? You want this? Motormouth?

722
00:32:28,954 --> 00:32:29,794
Speaker 3: It's not going to stop.

723
00:32:30,234 --> 00:32:34,034
Speaker 2: So the Unleashed pod came out last week. Woo. It's

724
00:32:34,234 --> 00:32:37,234
Speaker 2: just a bunch of Gene's women bantering, having a laugh,

725
00:32:38,274 --> 00:32:40,634
Speaker 2: renting a little bit, you know, we'll need a good

726
00:32:40,674 --> 00:32:42,554
Speaker 2: rent and just having fun.

727
00:32:42,874 --> 00:32:43,434
Speaker 3: I love it.

728
00:32:43,554 --> 00:32:46,074
Speaker 1: We need a bit more fun. Everything's so serious.

729
00:32:46,394 --> 00:32:49,394
Speaker 2: And I also think that people keep banging about youth

730
00:32:49,594 --> 00:32:52,074
Speaker 2: and young and all that. You know what, we're gene X.

731
00:32:52,114 --> 00:32:54,514
Speaker 2: We're also fabulous in your power. Yeah.

732
00:32:54,594 --> 00:32:57,634
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'm so inspired by you. I'm so excited, Grace.

733
00:32:57,674 --> 00:32:58,474
Speaker 3: It's such a fun.

734
00:32:58,634 --> 00:32:58,914
Speaker 2: Listen.

735
00:32:59,074 --> 00:33:00,954
Speaker 3: Everyone needs to check it out. I want to ask

736
00:33:01,034 --> 00:33:03,394
Speaker 3: you one more thing. You have this Instagram series that

737
00:33:03,514 --> 00:33:06,434
Speaker 3: I am addicted to. I hope I get the name right,

738
00:33:06,594 --> 00:33:10,554
Speaker 3: Grace may not pause. Yes, I play on the on

739
00:33:10,714 --> 00:33:14,914
Speaker 3: the menopause. Yes, talk to me about the intention behind

740
00:33:14,954 --> 00:33:16,794
Speaker 3: that series and why it's so important to you.

741
00:33:17,794 --> 00:33:21,874
Speaker 2: So I'm going through perimenopause and it's been three years,

742
00:33:22,314 --> 00:33:26,634
Speaker 2: entering four years. It has kicked my ass completely and

743
00:33:27,074 --> 00:33:29,794
Speaker 2: I had no idea what was going through my body.

744
00:33:30,394 --> 00:33:32,354
Speaker 2: And I had no idea what you know, but anything

745
00:33:32,394 --> 00:33:35,754
Speaker 2: about menopause from my mother telling me, you know, oh yeah,

746
00:33:35,794 --> 00:33:37,834
Speaker 2: I went. I sell through it really, you know, smooth,

747
00:33:37,874 --> 00:33:41,754
Speaker 2: And I'm like, no, you didn't. So I didn't even

748
00:33:41,794 --> 00:33:44,834
Speaker 2: know the word peri menopause until I went into a

749
00:33:44,954 --> 00:33:49,674
Speaker 2: deep research in your rabbit hole about menopause. And the

750
00:33:49,754 --> 00:33:52,434
Speaker 2: reason I started that mini series on my Instagram is

751
00:33:52,474 --> 00:33:55,314
Speaker 2: that I when I first went through menopause, I had

752
00:33:55,354 --> 00:33:57,594
Speaker 2: so many symptoms in so many what's the worst, you know,

753
00:33:57,714 --> 00:33:59,594
Speaker 2: brain fall? I still have brain fall. That's why I

754
00:33:59,634 --> 00:34:01,914
Speaker 2: need my notes. There were so many things I was

755
00:34:01,994 --> 00:34:03,994
Speaker 2: going through, and I was talking to women. Some woman

756
00:34:04,154 --> 00:34:07,514
Speaker 2: very open to talk about it, but most women, especially

757
00:34:07,594 --> 00:34:10,274
Speaker 2: in my industry fashion people did not want people to know.

758
00:34:10,873 --> 00:34:13,433
Speaker 2: And I thought, why not, It's so normal. So I

759
00:34:13,554 --> 00:34:18,154
Speaker 2: invited a few fashion insiders to come on the miniseries,

760
00:34:18,514 --> 00:34:21,634
Speaker 2: all of them that know, and I was shaved because

761
00:34:21,674 --> 00:34:24,873
Speaker 2: I thought I'm a very like sisterhood. Don't call my

762
00:34:24,914 --> 00:34:27,994
Speaker 2: sisterhood people. You know, I have you back, And I

763
00:34:28,114 --> 00:34:30,714
Speaker 2: just thought I didn't understand why you would't want to talk.

764
00:34:30,634 --> 00:34:33,914
Speaker 3: Why shrouded in secrecy and why fashion people in particular.

765
00:34:33,994 --> 00:34:35,794
Speaker 3: Do you think is there a certain image that they

766
00:34:35,874 --> 00:34:37,074
Speaker 3: want to maintain.

767
00:34:36,914 --> 00:34:38,594
Speaker 2: Yes, because they don't want to seem old or they

768
00:34:38,634 --> 00:34:40,473
Speaker 2: don't want to seem like they a certain age group.

769
00:34:40,514 --> 00:34:42,714
Speaker 2: I'm like, I mean, I mean, I know I don't

770
00:34:42,754 --> 00:34:45,194
Speaker 2: look fifty two. People keep saying you do not know.

771
00:34:45,954 --> 00:34:48,393
Speaker 2: My first question is what am I supposed to look like?

772
00:34:48,594 --> 00:34:51,274
Speaker 2: You know, It's just such a weird compliment to me

773
00:34:51,674 --> 00:34:53,954
Speaker 2: because when someone looks old you say, you know, oh

774
00:34:54,034 --> 00:34:56,354
Speaker 2: you look too old, or you know, if someone looks young,

775
00:34:56,394 --> 00:34:58,154
Speaker 2: you go, oh, you don't look your age. I'm like, okay, whatever.

776
00:34:58,914 --> 00:35:01,434
Speaker 2: So this is a series that I want to shine

777
00:35:01,434 --> 00:35:04,034
Speaker 2: and light and share people's stories where whether you're a

778
00:35:04,074 --> 00:35:09,914
Speaker 2: lift experienced woman or I interfeel of like scientif, doctors, nurses, researchers, psychologists,

779
00:35:09,954 --> 00:35:13,674
Speaker 2: because it's all interlinked. And I just don't want women

780
00:35:13,754 --> 00:35:16,034
Speaker 2: to feel ashamed about this because it's so normal.

781
00:35:16,634 --> 00:35:17,834
Speaker 1: Amen, I love it.

782
00:35:29,194 --> 00:35:30,554
Speaker 2: It's very expensive.

783
00:35:31,434 --> 00:35:35,994
Speaker 3: I want you all right, let's get into our next section.

784
00:35:36,234 --> 00:35:38,514
Speaker 3: Let's do bougie and budget. I would love you to

785
00:35:38,594 --> 00:35:43,034
Speaker 3: hit me first with your bougie, so let me give you.

786
00:35:43,554 --> 00:35:47,473
Speaker 2: My secret weapon. So, since it's Valentine's Day, we all

787
00:35:47,594 --> 00:35:50,394
Speaker 2: need a bit of loving, whether it's on my body,

788
00:35:50,834 --> 00:35:54,154
Speaker 2: especially down there. So High Tide. Have you heard of

789
00:35:54,234 --> 00:35:57,794
Speaker 2: this brand from Melbourne. It's basically an intimate sex shop.

790
00:35:57,874 --> 00:35:59,433
Speaker 3: I have heard of it, but I want to hear

791
00:35:59,514 --> 00:36:01,234
Speaker 3: how this relates to fashion.

792
00:36:01,474 --> 00:36:05,074
Speaker 2: So I mean, if you feel good, I mean it's

793
00:36:05,154 --> 00:36:06,674
Speaker 2: Valentine's soay, let's have a bit of fun. You know

794
00:36:06,754 --> 00:36:08,994
Speaker 2: you look looking fine, you know you're looking great with

795
00:36:09,114 --> 00:36:12,433
Speaker 2: your partner. You go for a nice meal, you get home,

796
00:36:12,474 --> 00:36:13,714
Speaker 2: what are you going to do? You know, get some

797
00:36:13,834 --> 00:36:16,554
Speaker 2: loving it. So I want you to be happy down

798
00:36:16,594 --> 00:36:20,433
Speaker 2: there too. So High Tide is a Melbourne brand by

799
00:36:20,514 --> 00:36:24,553
Speaker 2: two couple, Paige and Soreen. And trust me to find

800
00:36:24,594 --> 00:36:26,913
Speaker 2: this shop the second way I moved to Melbourne. Yeah,

801
00:36:27,274 --> 00:36:30,074
Speaker 2: it just I would drawing you in it, lure me in.

802
00:36:30,554 --> 00:36:32,953
Speaker 2: And I went inside with my son who was then

803
00:36:33,074 --> 00:36:35,994
Speaker 2: like eleven, and he got kicked out and I'm like,

804
00:36:36,234 --> 00:36:37,354
Speaker 2: why what is this shop?

805
00:36:37,594 --> 00:36:40,354
Speaker 3: Oh? Oh my god, I've seen it. It looks like

806
00:36:40,394 --> 00:36:43,473
Speaker 3: a normal boutique, but it's like, really, yes, it looks

807
00:36:43,754 --> 00:36:45,834
Speaker 3: so I just had the aha moment. It's really The

808
00:36:45,914 --> 00:36:48,514
Speaker 3: branding is really on point and it looks sexual wellness,

809
00:36:48,554 --> 00:36:49,874
Speaker 3: but it looks like a high end booty.

810
00:36:49,914 --> 00:36:55,314
Speaker 2: It looks like a cool boutique shop. Basically, very well created,

811
00:36:55,514 --> 00:36:59,314
Speaker 2: very well designed. Everything's on display, you can touch, and

812
00:37:00,154 --> 00:37:02,834
Speaker 2: they are so knowledgeable. There's so many cool things there

813
00:37:02,914 --> 00:37:07,194
Speaker 2: and they are all very curated and the design of

814
00:37:07,434 --> 00:37:09,513
Speaker 2: every single object is so damn cool.

815
00:37:09,754 --> 00:37:12,234
Speaker 3: So it's esthetically pleasing, it's wests.

816
00:37:11,794 --> 00:37:15,674
Speaker 2: Pleasing, and just definitely check out. They have online shop

817
00:37:15,714 --> 00:37:19,594
Speaker 2: and they run classes, they run events. I mean, it's

818
00:37:19,674 --> 00:37:20,914
Speaker 2: one of my favorite shops in Melbourne.

819
00:37:20,914 --> 00:37:23,274
Speaker 3: Okay, I absolutely love that recommendation. It came out of

820
00:37:23,354 --> 00:37:26,354
Speaker 3: left field, but I see how it synchronizes with the topic.

821
00:37:26,514 --> 00:37:26,873
Speaker 3: I love it.

822
00:37:27,154 --> 00:37:30,074
Speaker 2: Yes, it's Valentine's Day people, so don't you know genius.

823
00:37:30,194 --> 00:37:33,954
Speaker 2: Another brand that I really like is called j W.

824
00:37:34,194 --> 00:37:39,954
Speaker 2: P Pei is from la They are very experimental in

825
00:37:39,994 --> 00:37:42,674
Speaker 2: the way they style the collection, so you get a

826
00:37:42,714 --> 00:37:46,433
Speaker 2: lot of inspiration and if you like dresses, check out

827
00:37:46,434 --> 00:37:49,594
Speaker 2: their dresses section because they have some three D embroidery

828
00:37:49,674 --> 00:37:52,514
Speaker 2: dress dresses, which is a little bit different than your

829
00:37:52,554 --> 00:37:55,434
Speaker 2: normal cut out. I mean, did your cut up. So

830
00:37:55,514 --> 00:37:58,473
Speaker 2: they're very comma. So they're very bougie. They're not cheap.

831
00:37:58,994 --> 00:38:02,234
Speaker 1: Okay, I only know JW pay from the handbags.

832
00:38:02,714 --> 00:38:07,794
Speaker 2: Oh you should check. Very funny the reasons well, their

833
00:38:07,794 --> 00:38:12,034
Speaker 2: ASCESSTERI is also quite a little bit hint of ghetto style,

834
00:38:12,234 --> 00:38:14,714
Speaker 2: like very New York ghetto styles with some gold pieces,

835
00:38:14,794 --> 00:38:16,794
Speaker 2: statement pieces. Very fun brand.

836
00:38:16,914 --> 00:38:18,953
Speaker 3: All right, now hit me with your budget, your more

837
00:38:18,994 --> 00:38:20,754
Speaker 3: affordable style recommendation.

838
00:38:21,434 --> 00:38:24,274
Speaker 2: So I'm really into shoes, and I recently bought this

839
00:38:24,354 --> 00:38:26,314
Speaker 2: pair of Marry Jane and I'm wearing now. I'm going

840
00:38:26,394 --> 00:38:30,034
Speaker 2: to show you Charles and Keith, a Singaporean brand. A

841
00:38:30,114 --> 00:38:33,114
Speaker 2: lot of people know. Some people might not know very

842
00:38:33,194 --> 00:38:35,794
Speaker 2: affordable prices. I mean my Marria Jane costs eight eight

843
00:38:35,914 --> 00:38:36,354
Speaker 2: dollars on.

844
00:38:36,434 --> 00:38:38,994
Speaker 1: Cell amazing Christmas. They look so expensive.

845
00:38:39,474 --> 00:38:41,834
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got stopped so many times on the street

846
00:38:41,994 --> 00:38:43,634
Speaker 2: people women ask me where did I get there?

847
00:38:43,754 --> 00:38:47,953
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're really cool, like a strappy patent leather, Yeah,

848
00:38:48,794 --> 00:38:49,714
Speaker 3: leather Mary Jane with.

849
00:38:49,714 --> 00:38:51,474
Speaker 2: A little black heel yes, and a pair of with

850
00:38:51,554 --> 00:38:54,194
Speaker 2: yellow socks. To make it more fun. But I bought

851
00:38:54,234 --> 00:38:56,154
Speaker 2: so many pair of socks here, you know, this trip.

852
00:38:56,154 --> 00:38:57,154
Speaker 2: I'm only here for like two.

853
00:38:57,074 --> 00:38:58,714
Speaker 3: Days in Sydney.

854
00:38:58,874 --> 00:39:01,194
Speaker 2: In Sydney because I couldn't decide whether whether I go

855
00:39:01,354 --> 00:39:04,994
Speaker 2: playing yellow or like some pattern color or like poker dots.

856
00:39:05,554 --> 00:39:07,434
Speaker 3: I mean, try it, please, you could do it different

857
00:39:07,474 --> 00:39:10,114
Speaker 3: version tomorrow. You look, look you've inspired me.

858
00:39:10,634 --> 00:39:12,274
Speaker 1: I might buy some socks.

859
00:39:12,354 --> 00:39:13,714
Speaker 2: Yes, I'll send you links.

860
00:39:14,434 --> 00:39:15,314
Speaker 3: So Charles and kids.

861
00:39:15,394 --> 00:39:18,594
Speaker 2: They have you know, they have bags from one hundred

862
00:39:18,594 --> 00:39:20,754
Speaker 2: dollars to one hundred and forty very reasonable, and they're

863
00:39:20,834 --> 00:39:23,554
Speaker 2: very cute. Shoes one hundred dollars to two hundred dollars,

864
00:39:23,994 --> 00:39:24,433
Speaker 2: very cute.

865
00:39:24,434 --> 00:39:26,474
Speaker 1: It's a really good price point, isn't it. It's like

866
00:39:26,554 --> 00:39:27,434
Speaker 1: on point stuff.

867
00:39:27,514 --> 00:39:30,594
Speaker 3: Like the designs are great, they're on trend, but they're

868
00:39:30,594 --> 00:39:33,074
Speaker 3: also like I feel like, designed to be quite timeless.

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00:39:33,274 --> 00:39:36,194
Speaker 2: And they have kits shoes, the little Ballerina kisshoes so

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00:39:36,434 --> 00:39:39,794
Speaker 2: cute that eighteen dollars good to know, very gay, okay,

871
00:39:40,074 --> 00:39:42,953
Speaker 2: and jewel read twenty nine dollars to sixty six. I mean,

872
00:39:42,994 --> 00:39:43,954
Speaker 2: come on, you know I.

873
00:39:43,994 --> 00:39:44,994
Speaker 1: Didn't know they did jewelry.

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00:39:45,154 --> 00:39:47,994
Speaker 3: I've just lurked. The shoes mostly good to know, yes,

875
00:39:48,794 --> 00:39:52,473
Speaker 3: all right, let's get into mine. So, my bougie, it's

876
00:39:52,514 --> 00:39:55,154
Speaker 3: also a shoe. It's something I've been thinking about for

877
00:39:55,394 --> 00:39:58,954
Speaker 3: months since I first clocked them in the Bonda boutique.

878
00:39:58,994 --> 00:40:02,674
Speaker 3: It's the Saint Agny thong heel. I wear a lot

879
00:40:02,714 --> 00:40:05,554
Speaker 3: of thongs unashamedly. I don't know what your view on

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00:40:05,634 --> 00:40:07,714
Speaker 3: that is, Grace, but I do love a and I'm

881
00:40:07,914 --> 00:40:10,314
Speaker 3: really into the thong heel trend. I know it's a

882
00:40:10,554 --> 00:40:12,354
Speaker 3: a Y two K throwback, but I just feel like

883
00:40:12,394 --> 00:40:14,834
Speaker 3: they make sense for me because I wear flats all

884
00:40:14,874 --> 00:40:17,034
Speaker 3: the time, thongs all the time, and just a slightly

885
00:40:17,114 --> 00:40:20,514
Speaker 3: more elevated version of that really minimal kind of you

886
00:40:20,594 --> 00:40:23,874
Speaker 3: can wear everything. Okay, good to know I have approval.

887
00:40:24,314 --> 00:40:28,194
Speaker 3: So these for me are the perfect square toe leather

888
00:40:28,514 --> 00:40:29,073
Speaker 3: thong heel.

889
00:40:29,114 --> 00:40:29,994
Speaker 2: I know exactly what you do.

890
00:40:31,354 --> 00:40:34,474
Speaker 3: They are so chic. Unfortunately the black is all but

891
00:40:34,634 --> 00:40:37,274
Speaker 3: sold out except my black. No. Well, okay, so they

892
00:40:37,274 --> 00:40:38,953
Speaker 3: also I want to get your thoughts. They have red,

893
00:40:39,114 --> 00:40:41,033
Speaker 3: which I they're the ones I saw and I fell

894
00:40:41,074 --> 00:40:43,434
Speaker 3: in love with. They have silver, and they have white.

895
00:40:44,154 --> 00:40:45,554
Speaker 3: I'm thinking the red.

896
00:40:45,754 --> 00:40:48,914
Speaker 2: White because right reminds me of like someone called Tracy

897
00:40:48,954 --> 00:40:51,034
Speaker 2: Will wear it all right.

898
00:40:51,274 --> 00:40:55,194
Speaker 3: Apologies to Tracy. White heels are more tricky. Would you

899
00:40:55,354 --> 00:40:57,234
Speaker 3: go the silver which are very cute?

900
00:40:57,274 --> 00:41:00,194
Speaker 2: All the reds depends what you have in your wardrobe.

901
00:41:00,194 --> 00:41:02,234
Speaker 3: I'm more of a gold jewelry wearer, so I feel

902
00:41:02,274 --> 00:41:03,873
Speaker 3: like the silver would be a little bit harder for

903
00:41:03,954 --> 00:41:06,034
Speaker 3: me to I think the red is the answer. I

904
00:41:06,074 --> 00:41:06,873
Speaker 3: think I already know that.

905
00:41:07,114 --> 00:41:09,314
Speaker 2: I think if you, I think if you have a

906
00:41:09,394 --> 00:41:12,913
Speaker 2: lot of gold accessories, the metallic also goes.

907
00:41:12,954 --> 00:41:14,674
Speaker 3: Well, it doesn't have to be gold and gold, so

908
00:41:14,714 --> 00:41:16,754
Speaker 3: you could do gold with silvers. That's fine.

909
00:41:17,114 --> 00:41:19,433
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you feel like you don't have anything red,

910
00:41:19,674 --> 00:41:22,834
Speaker 2: then go for the red. Okay, Okay, don't buy don't

911
00:41:22,954 --> 00:41:24,474
Speaker 2: repeat wardrobe stuff.

912
00:41:24,594 --> 00:41:25,954
Speaker 1: Yeah you don't need to buy the same one you

913
00:41:25,994 --> 00:41:26,393
Speaker 1: already have.

914
00:41:26,754 --> 00:41:26,953
Speaker 2: Yeah.

915
00:41:27,154 --> 00:41:28,714
Speaker 1: I have red thongs that I wear all the time,

916
00:41:28,794 --> 00:41:29,674
Speaker 1: so maybe that's a sign.

917
00:41:30,074 --> 00:41:32,354
Speaker 3: So look, these shoes are four hundred and twenty nine,

918
00:41:32,434 --> 00:41:35,634
Speaker 3: so it's a decent investment. But it's not like luxury

919
00:41:35,714 --> 00:41:37,674
Speaker 3: shoe prices, and I know I'll wear them with everything,

920
00:41:37,954 --> 00:41:40,994
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's a no brainer for me. Okay, so

921
00:41:41,194 --> 00:41:43,994
Speaker 3: my budget. I wrote an article for Mma Meir recently

922
00:41:44,074 --> 00:41:46,994
Speaker 3: about this sort of styling trick I've been noticing on

923
00:41:47,114 --> 00:41:50,194
Speaker 3: my socials, which is all the stylish women I follow

924
00:41:50,314 --> 00:41:54,434
Speaker 3: are wearing like chunky gold ear rings, like real statement

925
00:41:54,594 --> 00:41:58,234
Speaker 3: doorknocket earrings back with black shades. And for me, it's

926
00:41:58,354 --> 00:42:01,913
Speaker 3: like a real shortcut to making your outfit look more expensive.

927
00:42:02,474 --> 00:42:05,434
Speaker 3: So I'm really keen to try this myself. I'm really inspired.

928
00:42:05,754 --> 00:42:08,433
Speaker 3: There's a brand called Heaven. I'm not sure if you've

929
00:42:08,474 --> 00:42:11,994
Speaker 3: heard heard of them. Yeah, they do really great statement

930
00:42:12,194 --> 00:42:15,074
Speaker 3: chunky earrings in gold and silver, but particularly shine with

931
00:42:15,154 --> 00:42:18,114
Speaker 3: the gold. And the earrings that I'm drawn to are

932
00:42:18,194 --> 00:42:22,154
Speaker 3: called the Clemmy earrings, and they're like a long, rectangular

933
00:42:22,514 --> 00:42:27,194
Speaker 3: stud there's sort of that eighties glam vibe, really sculptural.

934
00:42:27,594 --> 00:42:29,994
Speaker 3: They're one hundred and seventy nine dollars, which is, you know,

935
00:42:30,234 --> 00:42:32,994
Speaker 3: like it's not high end prices. It's a small investment

936
00:42:33,074 --> 00:42:34,834
Speaker 3: for earrings, but I feel like there's such a statement

937
00:42:34,914 --> 00:42:36,194
Speaker 3: piece that I'm going to love them.

938
00:42:36,434 --> 00:42:39,954
Speaker 2: I really like chunky jewelry, yeah, because there's such a

939
00:42:40,034 --> 00:42:44,154
Speaker 2: statement that you sometimes don't need anything else, so true.

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00:42:44,434 --> 00:42:46,873
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a really minimal outfit just with a bold

941
00:42:46,954 --> 00:42:47,234
Speaker 1: ear ring.

942
00:42:47,394 --> 00:42:49,354
Speaker 2: Yeah, love that. I mean because I'm a gene X

943
00:42:49,394 --> 00:42:52,994
Speaker 2: you know, and I'm going on Unleashed Pod. Reference iced

944
00:42:52,994 --> 00:42:55,674
Speaker 2: tea if you if you run up ideas, reference iced

945
00:42:55,674 --> 00:42:56,913
Speaker 2: tea another day.

946
00:42:56,994 --> 00:42:58,634
Speaker 3: I never thought would come up in this podcast, but

947
00:42:58,674 --> 00:42:59,154
Speaker 3: I'm here for.

948
00:43:00,634 --> 00:43:03,114
Speaker 2: You know, icye jewelry influence. You know why not?

949
00:43:03,274 --> 00:43:04,874
Speaker 3: You know they're heavy, chunky gold.

950
00:43:06,154 --> 00:43:07,634
Speaker 2: If you love it. You know what. I'm just one

951
00:43:07,674 --> 00:43:09,194
Speaker 2: of those people. If I'm going to do something, I'm

952
00:43:09,234 --> 00:43:09,873
Speaker 2: going to go all out.

953
00:43:10,034 --> 00:43:11,913
Speaker 1: I know that about you just from this chat.

954
00:43:11,994 --> 00:43:14,314
Speaker 3: Grace. It has been so much fun having you on

955
00:43:14,394 --> 00:43:16,953
Speaker 3: the show. Thank you so much for joining us. Best

956
00:43:16,994 --> 00:43:19,994
Speaker 3: of luck with Unleashed. I am so excited about this shows.

957
00:43:20,434 --> 00:43:24,314
Speaker 3: It's a really really fun listen. That's all we have

958
00:43:24,434 --> 00:43:26,953
Speaker 3: time for today. Thank you for listening to Nothing to Wear.

959
00:43:27,114 --> 00:43:29,354
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Speaker 3: There's a link in the show notes and in the

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00:43:31,234 --> 00:43:34,154
Speaker 3: show notes you'll also find all the amazing brands that

962
00:43:34,394 --> 00:43:36,794
Speaker 3: Grace talked about on the show. You can watch us

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Speaker 3: on YouTube and follow us on Instagram at Nothing to

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Speaker 3: Wear Pod, and tune into our brand new podcast for

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Speaker 3: gen X women, Unleashed on the MoMA Mea network wherever

966
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Speaker 3: you get your podcasts, we'll be back soon Bye.