1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:16,474 Speaker 1: You're listening to a mom with mea podcast. Whoever said 2 00:00:16,553 --> 00:00:19,753 Speaker 1: orange is a new pink with seriously disturbed laurels for 3 00:00:19,834 --> 00:00:23,354 Speaker 1: spraying groundbreaking? Oh my god, you have to do it. 4 00:00:23,394 --> 00:00:27,994 Speaker 1: You live for fashion. Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, 5 00:00:28,114 --> 00:00:31,354 Speaker 1: the podcast that solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. 6 00:00:31,554 --> 00:00:34,034 Speaker 1: I'm Lee Campbell and I'm in an exceptionally good mood, 7 00:00:34,034 --> 00:00:36,114 Speaker 1: which I was not in a little while ago. You 8 00:00:36,193 --> 00:00:37,674 Speaker 1: might hear a bit of a croak in my voice. 9 00:00:37,714 --> 00:00:40,833 Speaker 1: I've been sick. And then I sat down with today's guest. 10 00:00:41,193 --> 00:00:44,193 Speaker 1: It is Jules Robertson. You might know that name from maths. However, 11 00:00:44,233 --> 00:00:46,834 Speaker 1: I have never watched Married at First Sight in my life. 12 00:00:47,153 --> 00:00:49,074 Speaker 1: Jaws and I talk about so much in this episode 13 00:00:49,114 --> 00:00:51,233 Speaker 1: about how she founded a brand in the middle of 14 00:00:51,273 --> 00:00:54,273 Speaker 1: lockdown and how it is absolutely killing it today. They 15 00:00:54,434 --> 00:00:56,714 Speaker 1: just won a major reward and they have a copyright 16 00:00:56,794 --> 00:00:59,634 Speaker 1: on part of the garment that nobody else has, which 17 00:00:59,674 --> 00:01:02,514 Speaker 1: is pretty clever. It's all about inclusivity. But that's not 18 00:01:02,594 --> 00:01:04,834 Speaker 1: just a term that she's throwing around. She lives it, 19 00:01:04,914 --> 00:01:06,754 Speaker 1: She breathes that, she walks it, and she has one 20 00:01:06,794 --> 00:01:09,354 Speaker 1: hundred of thousands of women telling her so every day. 21 00:01:09,514 --> 00:01:12,914 Speaker 1: So let's get into it. Jules, welcome to nothing to wear. Now. 22 00:01:12,954 --> 00:01:15,514 Speaker 1: For people that aren't familiar with you, I don't know 23 00:01:15,594 --> 00:01:17,794 Speaker 1: why they wouldn't be. But what have you been up 24 00:01:17,834 --> 00:01:19,594 Speaker 1: to lately? Who are you? And what do you do? 25 00:01:20,074 --> 00:01:22,554 Speaker 2: What have I been up to lately today? Or in general? 26 00:01:22,714 --> 00:01:26,354 Speaker 3: I know it's in a nutshell. Married at first sight 27 00:01:26,394 --> 00:01:28,834 Speaker 3: will be on my tombstone. I've we've been married eight 28 00:01:28,914 --> 00:01:32,594 Speaker 3: years this year. Yeah, so season season. 29 00:01:32,354 --> 00:01:35,594 Speaker 1: Six, it's been going a long time. Yes, it has 30 00:01:35,754 --> 00:01:36,474 Speaker 1: the best success. 31 00:01:36,914 --> 00:01:37,834 Speaker 2: There's a few of us. 32 00:01:37,714 --> 00:01:39,754 Speaker 3: Now, I mean the stats aren't great, but there is 33 00:01:39,794 --> 00:01:41,594 Speaker 3: a few of us, so that it would be how 34 00:01:41,674 --> 00:01:45,594 Speaker 3: people originally know me. But from moving on from Mass, 35 00:01:45,634 --> 00:01:49,434 Speaker 3: I founded Figure, which is an inclusive shapewear brand, and 36 00:01:49,914 --> 00:01:53,794 Speaker 3: founded more Amused, which is inclusive fashion content creator, war 37 00:01:53,874 --> 00:01:58,714 Speaker 3: winning content creator, warmanning entrepreneur. And I guess everything that 38 00:01:58,794 --> 00:02:02,954 Speaker 3: I have done since then is really rooted in inclusion, 39 00:02:03,114 --> 00:02:07,394 Speaker 3: authenticity and just championing women. So I think, think, but 40 00:02:07,434 --> 00:02:09,633 Speaker 3: what have I been up to? Oh my god, it's 41 00:02:09,674 --> 00:02:10,714 Speaker 3: always mama. 42 00:02:10,874 --> 00:02:12,794 Speaker 1: And I'll never ask about the juggle because you know 43 00:02:12,874 --> 00:02:15,154 Speaker 1: Dad's juggle too, But you do fit a lot in 44 00:02:15,594 --> 00:02:15,953 Speaker 1: I do. 45 00:02:16,114 --> 00:02:18,834 Speaker 2: I do fit a lot in that. Definitely. I have 46 00:02:18,954 --> 00:02:21,314 Speaker 2: help my husband. I absolutely co parent. 47 00:02:21,554 --> 00:02:23,554 Speaker 3: You know, we have times where it's my time to 48 00:02:23,594 --> 00:02:25,434 Speaker 3: shine and it's his and we just do that dance 49 00:02:25,474 --> 00:02:26,154 Speaker 3: back and forth. 50 00:02:26,634 --> 00:02:27,474 Speaker 2: But yeah, I do. 51 00:02:27,434 --> 00:02:29,634 Speaker 3: Fit a lot in having two kids. I don't think 52 00:02:29,674 --> 00:02:31,394 Speaker 3: there is such thing as balance. You just got to 53 00:02:31,594 --> 00:02:33,794 Speaker 3: You've got your glass balls right, and yep, your kids 54 00:02:33,834 --> 00:02:35,594 Speaker 3: are glass and the others are plastic, and you. 55 00:02:35,634 --> 00:02:37,674 Speaker 1: Just sometimes they have to be plastic because they're not 56 00:02:37,754 --> 00:02:39,514 Speaker 1: sick and they can watch a movie for an hour. 57 00:02:39,714 --> 00:02:42,394 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like over time, I've got better at it. 58 00:02:42,914 --> 00:02:45,034 Speaker 3: And I know that if I wanted to sustain everything 59 00:02:45,034 --> 00:02:46,354 Speaker 3: I've been doing for the last few years, I had 60 00:02:46,354 --> 00:02:47,954 Speaker 3: to learn how to hold everything a bit differently. 61 00:02:48,114 --> 00:02:50,633 Speaker 2: So that took time, that took through burnout. 62 00:02:50,914 --> 00:02:53,714 Speaker 3: But I'm definitely in a good place right now of 63 00:02:53,834 --> 00:02:55,554 Speaker 3: in just managing it all a little bit better. 64 00:02:55,594 --> 00:02:57,834 Speaker 1: Okay, we need to do a separate, not fashion podcast 65 00:02:57,834 --> 00:02:59,554 Speaker 1: about how you do that, because that's amazing and some 66 00:02:59,634 --> 00:03:02,594 Speaker 1: days I'm sure we're better than others. So to set 67 00:03:02,594 --> 00:03:04,514 Speaker 1: the scene and people might not be watching and you 68 00:03:04,514 --> 00:03:08,234 Speaker 1: look fabulous today, but how do you describe your personal style. 69 00:03:08,994 --> 00:03:10,074 Speaker 2: I would say it. 70 00:03:10,114 --> 00:03:13,394 Speaker 3: Is classic but with a big personality, because I do. 71 00:03:13,514 --> 00:03:15,554 Speaker 3: I do like the classic look, but I'm not afraid 72 00:03:15,594 --> 00:03:18,954 Speaker 3: of having a little play. I don't fall too deeply 73 00:03:18,954 --> 00:03:21,594 Speaker 3: into trans I don't. I'm not that girl where I'm like, oh, 74 00:03:21,594 --> 00:03:23,714 Speaker 3: that's trendy, I've got to wear it. I definitely feel. 75 00:03:23,794 --> 00:03:27,714 Speaker 3: I feel my clothes, and I definitely use my wardrobe 76 00:03:27,794 --> 00:03:30,314 Speaker 3: to step into how I want to feel for that day, 77 00:03:30,434 --> 00:03:32,793 Speaker 3: like if I'm speaking, if I'm doing a keynote, like 78 00:03:32,834 --> 00:03:35,154 Speaker 3: I love wearing colors and patty like that makes me 79 00:03:35,234 --> 00:03:37,834 Speaker 3: feel powerful today. I don't know, I just felt like 80 00:03:38,234 --> 00:03:40,034 Speaker 3: Emily emparison. 81 00:03:39,514 --> 00:03:41,874 Speaker 1: I look amazing. So you're wearing it like a duck 82 00:03:41,914 --> 00:03:46,474 Speaker 1: egg blue beret almost identical color, like a cool like croc. 83 00:03:47,594 --> 00:03:50,514 Speaker 2: This is just from a like a secondhand, oh my 84 00:03:50,554 --> 00:03:52,354 Speaker 2: god shirt. 85 00:03:52,394 --> 00:03:55,834 Speaker 1: It's phenomenal, white tank leathered pet like, you look amazing, 86 00:03:56,114 --> 00:03:59,314 Speaker 1: thank you, And yeah, it's interesting. Classic can sometimes read 87 00:03:59,874 --> 00:04:02,634 Speaker 1: people think boring, but it's no. I think you're playful 88 00:04:02,674 --> 00:04:04,194 Speaker 1: from you know, watching you over the years. 89 00:04:04,394 --> 00:04:05,754 Speaker 2: Play Yeah, definitely. 90 00:04:05,954 --> 00:04:08,434 Speaker 3: I shared a picture last night and it was a 91 00:04:08,474 --> 00:04:11,034 Speaker 3: picture of myself in a photo shoot and it was 92 00:04:11,274 --> 00:04:13,434 Speaker 3: My outfit was all over the place and it was 93 00:04:13,474 --> 00:04:15,074 Speaker 3: something that I probably wouldn't wear down the street, but 94 00:04:15,074 --> 00:04:16,754 Speaker 3: it was a photo shoot and there were so many 95 00:04:16,794 --> 00:04:19,114 Speaker 3: comments of people saying, I usually love what you wear, 96 00:04:19,113 --> 00:04:21,153 Speaker 3: but this is a hard note. And I'm like, fashion 97 00:04:21,234 --> 00:04:23,633 Speaker 3: is fun, Like I don't think you should be restricted 98 00:04:23,633 --> 00:04:25,794 Speaker 3: to be Oh, this is my style and this is it. 99 00:04:25,993 --> 00:04:29,034 Speaker 3: Like I love wearing clothes that like I wore when 100 00:04:29,073 --> 00:04:30,794 Speaker 3: I was twenty, Like, I don't feel like we have 101 00:04:30,873 --> 00:04:32,274 Speaker 3: to restrict ourselves just because. 102 00:04:32,034 --> 00:04:33,873 Speaker 2: Of our age as well about what we're going to wear. 103 00:04:34,113 --> 00:04:36,474 Speaker 2: It's a feeling and I love the way that clothes 104 00:04:36,513 --> 00:04:36,994 Speaker 2: give you that. 105 00:04:37,274 --> 00:04:37,433 Speaker 1: You know. 106 00:04:37,594 --> 00:04:39,234 Speaker 2: They said the power of an outfit. 107 00:04:39,073 --> 00:04:41,514 Speaker 1: Is on the MEI character almost and yeah, it's not 108 00:04:41,553 --> 00:04:44,474 Speaker 1: a tattoo, it's for a day, you know. Totally strong opinion. 109 00:04:44,553 --> 00:04:44,753 Speaker 1: I know. 110 00:04:44,873 --> 00:04:47,273 Speaker 3: It was like I'd broken the law. I was like, chill, guys, 111 00:04:47,274 --> 00:04:48,034 Speaker 3: I can take it off. 112 00:04:48,794 --> 00:04:51,513 Speaker 1: I love it. So let's talk about evolution, because we 113 00:04:51,594 --> 00:04:54,753 Speaker 1: you know, we mature and we change, and how has 114 00:04:54,753 --> 00:04:57,234 Speaker 1: that affected your fashion, Say from your twenties to now 115 00:04:57,274 --> 00:04:59,914 Speaker 1: you know, reality TV or TV in the spotlight and 116 00:04:59,914 --> 00:05:02,433 Speaker 1: then becoming a mum, You've had a lot going on 117 00:05:02,474 --> 00:05:04,073 Speaker 1: in your life, as we do over the decades, But 118 00:05:04,154 --> 00:05:05,914 Speaker 1: how is your style changed throughout that? 119 00:05:06,553 --> 00:05:08,594 Speaker 2: I think I was saying, like, what is your style? 120 00:05:08,753 --> 00:05:11,674 Speaker 3: I think that evolving your style as you evolve as well, 121 00:05:11,714 --> 00:05:14,914 Speaker 3: like motherhood absolutely changes your style. I always a like, 122 00:05:15,154 --> 00:05:17,274 Speaker 3: love to show the bump girl, like not everyone is, 123 00:05:17,313 --> 00:05:19,474 Speaker 3: but I'm like, get me in a tight dress, love it. 124 00:05:19,553 --> 00:05:23,193 Speaker 3: I really embrace that change of my body. But I 125 00:05:23,234 --> 00:05:25,354 Speaker 3: think that you know, you do change over time. And 126 00:05:25,393 --> 00:05:27,073 Speaker 3: it's also it's like you change your makeup, Like I 127 00:05:27,154 --> 00:05:29,433 Speaker 3: was a black eyeliner girl for so many years and 128 00:05:29,474 --> 00:05:31,034 Speaker 3: I work up one day and I went, I look 129 00:05:31,073 --> 00:05:32,354 Speaker 3: like I've got the beady of siyes in the world 130 00:05:32,354 --> 00:05:34,593 Speaker 3: because my face has changed. So I think, you know, 131 00:05:34,633 --> 00:05:36,953 Speaker 3: my face is evolving, my body is evolving, so you 132 00:05:36,993 --> 00:05:40,033 Speaker 3: should change with that. I've been many sizes in the 133 00:05:40,034 --> 00:05:41,993 Speaker 3: public eye. I've been from a twelve to an eighteen 134 00:05:42,034 --> 00:05:44,833 Speaker 3: after giving birth. And one thing that I do credit 135 00:05:44,873 --> 00:05:47,713 Speaker 3: myself if I've never really changed my style in that sense, 136 00:05:47,753 --> 00:05:50,393 Speaker 3: like no matter what size I've been, I've always been like, 137 00:05:50,474 --> 00:05:52,433 Speaker 3: I love fashion and I'll find things that suit my 138 00:05:52,433 --> 00:05:55,593 Speaker 3: body in this moment. So I think that you know, 139 00:05:56,393 --> 00:05:58,953 Speaker 3: your life changes and evolves and your wardrobe should change 140 00:05:59,034 --> 00:05:59,354 Speaker 3: with that. 141 00:05:59,633 --> 00:06:01,634 Speaker 1: Yes, but I also like before you reference something that 142 00:06:01,674 --> 00:06:04,074 Speaker 1: you might have worn a decade ago. I have pieces 143 00:06:04,073 --> 00:06:06,633 Speaker 1: that I hang on to and regardless of trends, and 144 00:06:06,633 --> 00:06:08,474 Speaker 1: I love trend but I try not to follow trends 145 00:06:08,474 --> 00:06:10,313 Speaker 1: too much. But sometimes you're like, oh, I just bloody 146 00:06:10,313 --> 00:06:12,193 Speaker 1: love that, and that is personal style because you've had 147 00:06:12,234 --> 00:06:14,234 Speaker 1: it for so long and you still love it, and 148 00:06:14,234 --> 00:06:15,193 Speaker 1: that's true to you. 149 00:06:15,433 --> 00:06:16,154 Speaker 2: Yeah. 150 00:06:16,193 --> 00:06:18,234 Speaker 3: I love a bit of Leopard, actually, and it always 151 00:06:18,274 --> 00:06:20,714 Speaker 3: evolves and it comes back. And I've got a suit 152 00:06:20,753 --> 00:06:23,873 Speaker 3: that I have had for years, like years and years, 153 00:06:23,873 --> 00:06:25,753 Speaker 3: and I'm like, I love it and I still feel 154 00:06:25,753 --> 00:06:26,633 Speaker 3: great when I put it on. 155 00:06:26,794 --> 00:06:29,993 Speaker 1: Leopard's a neutral, I reckon, Yeah, it's a neutral. So 156 00:06:30,034 --> 00:06:31,873 Speaker 1: you're not a massive trend follower. You won't just go 157 00:06:31,953 --> 00:06:34,153 Speaker 1: Bizara and buy the trend because everyone else is. But 158 00:06:34,193 --> 00:06:37,154 Speaker 1: you definitely have unique style and you always look very 159 00:06:37,154 --> 00:06:39,953 Speaker 1: well put together. So how do you kind of marry 160 00:06:39,953 --> 00:06:42,233 Speaker 1: the two in that you definitely are someone to look 161 00:06:42,474 --> 00:06:46,113 Speaker 1: to and be inspired by fashion, but you're not really 162 00:06:46,193 --> 00:06:48,873 Speaker 1: I guess too much looking at what everyone else is doing. 163 00:06:48,914 --> 00:06:51,234 Speaker 1: Do you just follow your heart you go to the shops, 164 00:06:51,274 --> 00:06:52,593 Speaker 1: you just look at the website. 165 00:06:52,714 --> 00:06:55,593 Speaker 3: I think probably in my case, I think it's probably 166 00:06:55,993 --> 00:06:58,354 Speaker 3: confidence shines through more than anything else. And I think 167 00:06:58,393 --> 00:07:01,234 Speaker 3: that if you feel confident what you're wearing, even if 168 00:07:01,274 --> 00:07:02,514 Speaker 3: it's not for everyone. 169 00:07:02,313 --> 00:07:04,154 Speaker 2: You look good. And if you're comfortable, you look good. 170 00:07:04,154 --> 00:07:05,433 Speaker 2: If you're confident, you look good. 171 00:07:05,873 --> 00:07:10,234 Speaker 3: So I think that comes with time of knowing my body, 172 00:07:10,314 --> 00:07:12,234 Speaker 3: knowing what I feel good in, knowing how to dress it, 173 00:07:12,274 --> 00:07:17,074 Speaker 3: and knowing that whatever size that I am, it doesn't 174 00:07:17,234 --> 00:07:19,714 Speaker 3: define my purpose on my happiness. I've been many sizes 175 00:07:19,754 --> 00:07:22,474 Speaker 3: and I and I really hope that message gets to 176 00:07:22,514 --> 00:07:24,834 Speaker 3: women that it really doesn't. You know, absolutely we can 177 00:07:24,834 --> 00:07:27,994 Speaker 3: make health goals and whatever, but it's about appreciating where 178 00:07:28,034 --> 00:07:28,514 Speaker 3: you are in. 179 00:07:28,474 --> 00:07:31,114 Speaker 1: That time and shrinking just exactly. 180 00:07:31,354 --> 00:07:32,954 Speaker 2: Yeah, like just go for it. 181 00:07:32,994 --> 00:07:35,354 Speaker 3: Like stop waiting is my message in the sense of 182 00:07:35,393 --> 00:07:38,153 Speaker 3: like feel sometimes you know I've done it in the past, 183 00:07:38,274 --> 00:07:39,994 Speaker 3: be like, oh I'll wait twelve loss weight, or I'll 184 00:07:39,994 --> 00:07:41,714 Speaker 3: wait till my skin clears up, or I'll wait till 185 00:07:41,754 --> 00:07:45,554 Speaker 3: I fit into that dress. No, like celebrate yourself right now. 186 00:07:45,634 --> 00:07:47,794 Speaker 3: And I think that's something I've been a real advocate 187 00:07:47,874 --> 00:07:50,594 Speaker 3: for that you know, I really try and walk the 188 00:07:50,634 --> 00:07:52,874 Speaker 3: talk with that message, and I think it's a really 189 00:07:52,914 --> 00:07:53,754 Speaker 3: important message. 190 00:07:53,794 --> 00:07:55,473 Speaker 1: And I think that's always been that way. Do you 191 00:07:55,474 --> 00:07:57,234 Speaker 1: think it's or is it like something that you've had 192 00:07:57,234 --> 00:07:58,234 Speaker 1: to really sort of go in? 193 00:07:58,474 --> 00:08:01,034 Speaker 2: And I think it's a practice. I think people go like, hey, 194 00:08:01,034 --> 00:08:01,954 Speaker 2: where's confidence from it? 195 00:08:01,914 --> 00:08:04,234 Speaker 3: And I think you know, any advice to anyone listening, 196 00:08:04,234 --> 00:08:06,434 Speaker 3: if you're going through that would be it is not 197 00:08:06,474 --> 00:08:07,594 Speaker 3: something that you just at. 198 00:08:07,674 --> 00:08:08,834 Speaker 2: It is a practice that. 199 00:08:08,834 --> 00:08:12,074 Speaker 3: You consistently do and you consistently say to yourself, and 200 00:08:12,114 --> 00:08:14,833 Speaker 3: eventually it becomes your way of thinking and the way 201 00:08:14,834 --> 00:08:17,674 Speaker 3: that you are absolutely heavy days where you feel like shitty. 202 00:08:17,714 --> 00:08:19,074 Speaker 2: Yeah, we all do. 203 00:08:19,194 --> 00:08:19,713 Speaker 1: Sometimes. 204 00:08:19,714 --> 00:08:22,754 Speaker 3: It's something that I've worked really hard at. And I 205 00:08:22,794 --> 00:08:24,794 Speaker 3: think being the public eye, you have to really step 206 00:08:24,834 --> 00:08:26,714 Speaker 3: into yourself and be like, I actually like who I am. 207 00:08:26,754 --> 00:08:28,994 Speaker 3: I'm okay with me. If you don't, that's all right. 208 00:08:29,034 --> 00:08:32,234 Speaker 3: We all can't like each other. But I think, you know, 209 00:08:32,474 --> 00:08:34,234 Speaker 3: going back to the question about fashion, I think that 210 00:08:34,314 --> 00:08:37,194 Speaker 3: if you you know, nothing shines better than someone's confident 211 00:08:37,194 --> 00:08:39,154 Speaker 3: with a big heart, you know, so, but when it 212 00:08:39,154 --> 00:08:41,274 Speaker 3: comes to the clothes, and you know, I enjoy that 213 00:08:41,314 --> 00:08:44,554 Speaker 3: people look to me for fashion and becoming big w 214 00:08:44,794 --> 00:08:47,514 Speaker 3: style consultant, Like that's a huge honor, and that's making 215 00:08:48,074 --> 00:08:51,114 Speaker 3: an everyday brand be accessible for all women. 216 00:08:51,514 --> 00:08:53,914 Speaker 1: Well, speaking of confidence, after the break, we're going to 217 00:08:53,994 --> 00:08:56,994 Speaker 1: talk about keeping it real in a world of peptides 218 00:08:57,034 --> 00:09:00,114 Speaker 1: and rib remodeling, and also how Jules has created two 219 00:09:00,274 --> 00:09:14,434 Speaker 1: amazing brands that are surviving somehow in this market. So 220 00:09:19,074 --> 00:09:23,194 Speaker 1: two fashion businesses, I mean, congratulations, that's amazing. Let's talk 221 00:09:23,234 --> 00:09:25,634 Speaker 1: about the Shapeway brand because I think most people would 222 00:09:25,674 --> 00:09:27,514 Speaker 1: know you for that, and I feel like in a 223 00:09:27,554 --> 00:09:29,634 Speaker 1: market when there wasn't that much room to play, you 224 00:09:29,674 --> 00:09:31,994 Speaker 1: did really make a difference. So tell me about how 225 00:09:31,994 --> 00:09:33,114 Speaker 1: that started and what you do. 226 00:09:33,834 --> 00:09:36,994 Speaker 3: So Figures started actually from off the back of Maths. 227 00:09:37,074 --> 00:09:40,154 Speaker 3: I was obviously on television filming sorry for three months, 228 00:09:40,714 --> 00:09:42,634 Speaker 3: and the dinner parties I'd have my sheep were on 229 00:09:42,674 --> 00:09:44,713 Speaker 3: and it would roll down and it'd be so uncomfortable. 230 00:09:44,754 --> 00:09:46,434 Speaker 3: I'd take my whole dress off to go to toilet 231 00:09:46,954 --> 00:09:50,274 Speaker 3: and it was just like the most unseamless thing ever. 232 00:09:50,914 --> 00:09:54,754 Speaker 3: So coming off the show and then obviously overnight being 233 00:09:54,754 --> 00:09:57,754 Speaker 3: in the public eye, I received so many messages from 234 00:09:57,794 --> 00:10:00,914 Speaker 3: women who I guess I'd learned a really big thing then, 235 00:10:00,954 --> 00:10:03,594 Speaker 3: which I took into my business was that representation matters. 236 00:10:03,954 --> 00:10:07,594 Speaker 3: And women saw me and then they saw themselves reflected 237 00:10:07,594 --> 00:10:10,034 Speaker 3: in me because I was curvy or whatever, and they 238 00:10:10,154 --> 00:10:13,154 Speaker 3: just came to me saying things like, where do you 239 00:10:13,194 --> 00:10:15,514 Speaker 3: get your confidence from? I look like you, but I 240 00:10:15,554 --> 00:10:18,194 Speaker 3: didn't dress like you, and all these things that were 241 00:10:18,194 --> 00:10:19,914 Speaker 3: said to me. It was very clear that women didn't 242 00:10:19,914 --> 00:10:22,114 Speaker 3: feel like they're enough because of their body. And then 243 00:10:22,154 --> 00:10:24,834 Speaker 3: on the flip side of that, the comments and body 244 00:10:24,834 --> 00:10:28,114 Speaker 3: shaming and the trolling for being a healthy, confident, courvageous. 245 00:10:27,634 --> 00:10:29,834 Speaker 1: Woman, and overnight too when you weren't in the public 246 00:10:29,874 --> 00:10:32,074 Speaker 1: eye before that would Yeah, well. 247 00:10:31,954 --> 00:10:33,474 Speaker 3: We had a bit of prep for that because on 248 00:10:33,474 --> 00:10:35,474 Speaker 3: our honeymoon a friend send us a link to Daily 249 00:10:35,514 --> 00:10:37,514 Speaker 3: Mail and obviously it never had been in Daily Mail before. 250 00:10:37,554 --> 00:10:38,034 Speaker 2: It was all. 251 00:10:37,954 --> 00:10:40,434 Speaker 3: Exciting, and you know, of course went straight to the comments, 252 00:10:40,434 --> 00:10:42,874 Speaker 3: as you do when you're a rookie, and it was 253 00:10:42,994 --> 00:10:45,194 Speaker 3: all about not even before anyone had spoken to me 254 00:10:45,274 --> 00:10:47,674 Speaker 3: or heard me talk or anything. It was just judgment 255 00:10:47,714 --> 00:10:50,434 Speaker 3: for the way that I looked. And so we had 256 00:10:50,434 --> 00:10:52,154 Speaker 3: a bit of six months of prepping for that. Okay, 257 00:10:52,154 --> 00:10:54,954 Speaker 3: this is what's going to happen. So and to be honest, 258 00:10:54,954 --> 00:10:56,714 Speaker 3: I've done enough work on myself that I was actually 259 00:10:56,754 --> 00:10:59,074 Speaker 3: okay with that. I was like, that's okay, that's about you, 260 00:10:59,114 --> 00:11:02,434 Speaker 3: not about me. But then having that and I never 261 00:11:02,514 --> 00:11:04,154 Speaker 3: did I go on there or think I'm going to 262 00:11:04,154 --> 00:11:06,714 Speaker 3: be a shapewear designer, But I walked off that experience 263 00:11:06,754 --> 00:11:09,114 Speaker 3: and then from all of that noise and thought, if 264 00:11:09,154 --> 00:11:10,634 Speaker 3: I could do one thing in this world, I can 265 00:11:10,674 --> 00:11:13,274 Speaker 3: make a kick ass pair of shapewear. So that's where 266 00:11:13,274 --> 00:11:15,794 Speaker 3: the brand came. That came from that listening to the 267 00:11:15,874 --> 00:11:18,554 Speaker 3: Australian women of just like feeling that they needed to 268 00:11:18,554 --> 00:11:21,194 Speaker 3: be fixed, and shapewear has always been boxed as it's 269 00:11:21,234 --> 00:11:23,634 Speaker 3: to fix you, not to support the body that you have. 270 00:11:24,274 --> 00:11:26,554 Speaker 2: And so that's where the root of Figure came. 271 00:11:26,634 --> 00:11:29,394 Speaker 3: With its messaging, and I wanted to always use the 272 00:11:29,434 --> 00:11:31,554 Speaker 3: general public as my models, which I still to do 273 00:11:31,634 --> 00:11:34,394 Speaker 3: this day and all my campaigns are with their messaging 274 00:11:34,434 --> 00:11:36,314 Speaker 3: because at the end of the day, we're all the same, 275 00:11:36,354 --> 00:11:38,274 Speaker 3: no matter what shape or size, We're all battling our 276 00:11:38,274 --> 00:11:40,594 Speaker 3: own things. We all want to be seen and heard, 277 00:11:41,114 --> 00:11:44,274 Speaker 3: and that's where that has come from. And because for me, 278 00:11:44,354 --> 00:11:46,074 Speaker 3: it was like if women saw themselves in me, I 279 00:11:46,114 --> 00:11:48,794 Speaker 3: wanted them to see themselves in the women that I'm 280 00:11:48,874 --> 00:11:50,794 Speaker 3: using to go, Oh, I wish I look like her. 281 00:11:50,994 --> 00:11:52,074 Speaker 2: Oh she reminds me of me. 282 00:11:52,314 --> 00:11:54,074 Speaker 3: And that's what I've to do it too, and I 283 00:11:54,074 --> 00:11:55,794 Speaker 3: can do it too. Or I look like that and 284 00:11:55,834 --> 00:11:57,874 Speaker 3: look how confidence she looks, you know, and some of 285 00:11:57,874 --> 00:12:00,274 Speaker 3: the models that you know, models I say that I have, 286 00:12:00,434 --> 00:12:02,954 Speaker 3: like they're not super confident, but they're doing this to 287 00:12:03,114 --> 00:12:07,914 Speaker 3: become confident. So yeah, and that's always been you know, inclusion. 288 00:12:07,994 --> 00:12:10,354 Speaker 3: It's not like a tick box for me. It's actually 289 00:12:10,794 --> 00:12:14,074 Speaker 3: the soul of the brand. And it's been amazing. You know, 290 00:12:14,154 --> 00:12:17,434 Speaker 3: launching through covid, you know, that was really hard. And 291 00:12:17,474 --> 00:12:20,154 Speaker 3: I launched two weeks before Covid hit and you know, 292 00:12:20,234 --> 00:12:22,874 Speaker 3: I did really fantastic first twelve months. And that was 293 00:12:22,914 --> 00:12:26,834 Speaker 3: because we're getting behind the brand, that's totally, and we're 294 00:12:26,834 --> 00:12:30,234 Speaker 3: getting behind the messaging which is hopefully going to help, 295 00:12:30,474 --> 00:12:32,674 Speaker 3: you know, reshape the next generation of like we were 296 00:12:32,714 --> 00:12:34,994 Speaker 3: never a problem to begin with. Where just you know, 297 00:12:35,234 --> 00:12:37,434 Speaker 3: as I said, I just there's nothing that someone can 298 00:12:37,434 --> 00:12:39,314 Speaker 3: come at me that I know, it's shape where but 299 00:12:39,434 --> 00:12:41,434 Speaker 3: is it a tool. It's like lipstick is a tool. 300 00:12:41,474 --> 00:12:43,994 Speaker 3: It's a tool to the vehicle to step you into 301 00:12:43,994 --> 00:12:47,434 Speaker 3: feeling confident. And it's a fashion staple as well. Certain 302 00:12:47,474 --> 00:12:49,234 Speaker 3: materials need shape or underneath it. 303 00:12:49,514 --> 00:12:51,114 Speaker 1: But talk to me more about the product then, because 304 00:12:51,114 --> 00:12:53,514 Speaker 1: that's intriguing because obviously you war shape where there was 305 00:12:53,554 --> 00:12:56,034 Speaker 1: brands out there. How is yours different? I mean I 306 00:12:56,034 --> 00:12:58,594 Speaker 1: think from reading a lot about it, it's the comfort. 307 00:12:58,874 --> 00:13:00,674 Speaker 1: Yeah that still you know it works, but you don't 308 00:13:00,674 --> 00:13:02,314 Speaker 1: feel like to the point where you're so restricted and 309 00:13:02,394 --> 00:13:03,514 Speaker 1: uncomfortable that you want to take it. 310 00:13:03,434 --> 00:13:04,034 Speaker 2: Off or got home. 311 00:13:04,714 --> 00:13:07,114 Speaker 1: So how did you approach that differently? Was that feedback 312 00:13:07,114 --> 00:13:08,234 Speaker 1: from Australian women as well? 313 00:13:08,434 --> 00:13:11,634 Speaker 3: I've always done polls and I realized over the years 314 00:13:11,714 --> 00:13:13,634 Speaker 3: that people love to come with the journey, they love 315 00:13:13,674 --> 00:13:15,074 Speaker 3: to be a part of it. Like I've just brought 316 00:13:15,114 --> 00:13:17,634 Speaker 3: out Elevate, which has two different levels, so it's and 317 00:13:17,714 --> 00:13:20,154 Speaker 3: I never thought about doing two different levels. And I 318 00:13:20,274 --> 00:13:22,474 Speaker 3: always try never to design for myself. I find a 319 00:13:22,474 --> 00:13:25,874 Speaker 3: lot of designers designed for themselves, and then I really 320 00:13:25,954 --> 00:13:28,674 Speaker 3: want to have everyone And even with this Elevate, I 321 00:13:28,674 --> 00:13:30,794 Speaker 3: if a size twenty four women buys it, I'll be 322 00:13:30,914 --> 00:13:32,833 Speaker 3: very surprised, but I've still got it there because I 323 00:13:32,834 --> 00:13:33,874 Speaker 3: don't want to leave anyone out. 324 00:13:34,434 --> 00:13:35,674 Speaker 2: But with that, I went online. 325 00:13:35,714 --> 00:13:37,194 Speaker 3: I said this is what I'm thinking of doing, and 326 00:13:37,234 --> 00:13:41,154 Speaker 3: then I honestly, I had twenty five thousand votes. I 327 00:13:41,194 --> 00:13:44,434 Speaker 3: had about six hundred DM. Everyone was so invested in this, 328 00:13:45,034 --> 00:13:47,274 Speaker 3: and I was like, sure, I'll do two. That's like, 329 00:13:47,554 --> 00:13:49,194 Speaker 3: that's hundreds of thousands of dollars. 330 00:13:49,194 --> 00:13:50,114 Speaker 1: That way totally. 331 00:13:50,194 --> 00:13:52,514 Speaker 3: But I did it because I was like, people, you're right, 332 00:13:52,594 --> 00:13:54,874 Speaker 3: like you do need the different level because fashion now 333 00:13:54,874 --> 00:13:57,034 Speaker 3: there's so many cutouts with in dresses and the games, 334 00:13:57,074 --> 00:13:59,674 Speaker 3: and you know the different level. So I did it, 335 00:13:59,714 --> 00:14:01,394 Speaker 3: and this has got an elevate that just lifts up 336 00:14:01,394 --> 00:14:03,754 Speaker 3: your bomb naturally and it's really great. But that was 337 00:14:03,754 --> 00:14:06,474 Speaker 3: from listening and said, I've always listened to what women want, 338 00:14:06,554 --> 00:14:08,953 Speaker 3: and my product is different because I've got a patent 339 00:14:08,994 --> 00:14:11,634 Speaker 3: design of the crutch which no one can copy, which 340 00:14:11,714 --> 00:14:13,874 Speaker 3: I went to all the factories and I worked with 341 00:14:13,954 --> 00:14:14,954 Speaker 3: them to nail it. 342 00:14:14,954 --> 00:14:16,834 Speaker 2: And it actually works. I always say it works unless 343 00:14:16,874 --> 00:14:17,714 Speaker 2: you've had ten drinks. 344 00:14:18,074 --> 00:14:20,074 Speaker 1: I tell me, what does it do? 345 00:14:20,274 --> 00:14:21,634 Speaker 2: You can go to the toilet wearing it, so you 346 00:14:21,634 --> 00:14:22,434 Speaker 2: know have to pull it down. 347 00:14:22,834 --> 00:14:25,034 Speaker 1: Oh my god, thank god, because yeah, I've got a 348 00:14:25,034 --> 00:14:26,794 Speaker 1: pair that's a g streamine and I would pull that aside, 349 00:14:26,834 --> 00:14:28,234 Speaker 1: but that was too hard. But then if you weren't, 350 00:14:28,274 --> 00:14:29,994 Speaker 1: yeah for a short figure to get it. 351 00:14:30,034 --> 00:14:32,194 Speaker 3: And it's got gentle boning so it doesn't roll, it's 352 00:14:32,194 --> 00:14:34,634 Speaker 3: got the seamless leg, it's got mesh technology where I've 353 00:14:34,674 --> 00:14:37,234 Speaker 3: placed in it to not suffocate you just support the 354 00:14:37,274 --> 00:14:40,634 Speaker 3: areas that women like to feel supported in. So yeah, 355 00:14:40,634 --> 00:14:42,594 Speaker 3: I really like a made skirt that took me two 356 00:14:42,674 --> 00:14:45,234 Speaker 3: years to make. So I put a lot into every 357 00:14:45,234 --> 00:14:47,714 Speaker 3: single design, and I really take my audience with me 358 00:14:47,834 --> 00:14:48,994 Speaker 3: to be like, well, what do you want to know 359 00:14:49,034 --> 00:14:51,354 Speaker 3: what I want? So my next thing that I'll be 360 00:14:51,434 --> 00:14:54,914 Speaker 3: launching for summer is a backless with the figure crutch. 361 00:14:54,954 --> 00:14:57,514 Speaker 3: So it's really low, it can go hold tight. It's 362 00:14:57,514 --> 00:14:58,394 Speaker 3: got a good brayer. 363 00:14:58,194 --> 00:15:00,434 Speaker 1: In itsh like it's engineering. 364 00:15:00,514 --> 00:15:02,194 Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is. Like I'm on my eighth rain 365 00:15:02,274 --> 00:15:03,274 Speaker 2: of samples. 366 00:15:03,314 --> 00:15:05,634 Speaker 3: Like last week, I was drawing chalk on it, like 367 00:15:05,674 --> 00:15:07,394 Speaker 3: I was like, okay, let's move the cup down here. 368 00:15:07,794 --> 00:15:08,794 Speaker 2: And that's a lot of research. 369 00:15:08,834 --> 00:15:08,954 Speaker 1: You know. 370 00:15:08,994 --> 00:15:10,594 Speaker 3: I spent a lot of money buying other brands and 371 00:15:10,634 --> 00:15:12,314 Speaker 3: be like what are they doing? Like what can I do? 372 00:15:12,594 --> 00:15:15,514 Speaker 3: And it's all to make something like better I feel, 373 00:15:15,514 --> 00:15:17,714 Speaker 3: and make it for every you know, you can't make 374 00:15:17,754 --> 00:15:19,794 Speaker 3: something for everybody, but you can give it a good shot. 375 00:15:20,074 --> 00:15:21,474 Speaker 3: And that's why I have a tall body in a 376 00:15:21,474 --> 00:15:23,034 Speaker 3: petique because everyone has different torsos. 377 00:15:23,074 --> 00:15:24,994 Speaker 2: So I'm really proud of it. 378 00:15:25,074 --> 00:15:26,994 Speaker 3: And I think that, you know, as I said, like 379 00:15:27,034 --> 00:15:28,874 Speaker 3: your product is the body and your brain is the soul, 380 00:15:28,954 --> 00:15:31,154 Speaker 3: and people believe in it. And you know, I never 381 00:15:31,554 --> 00:15:34,634 Speaker 3: I guess scale myself on you know, how much I've 382 00:15:34,674 --> 00:15:35,754 Speaker 3: scaled or how many awards. 383 00:15:35,794 --> 00:15:36,114 Speaker 2: It's one. 384 00:15:36,154 --> 00:15:39,474 Speaker 3: It's it's what women say to me about what you 385 00:15:39,474 --> 00:15:41,514 Speaker 3: know it's made them feel, or just. 386 00:15:41,514 --> 00:15:44,274 Speaker 2: To see themselves, because I do think that how can. 387 00:15:44,154 --> 00:15:46,274 Speaker 3: You kind of feel like you belong if you never 388 00:15:46,274 --> 00:15:48,434 Speaker 3: see yourself right? And it's been you know, we're from 389 00:15:48,474 --> 00:15:50,754 Speaker 3: a generation of nineties girls. We will told we're going 390 00:15:50,794 --> 00:15:52,674 Speaker 3: to make it, We're never going to make it unless 391 00:15:52,674 --> 00:15:55,514 Speaker 3: we're super thin, and you know, I think that that's 392 00:15:55,594 --> 00:15:58,834 Speaker 3: not true anymore. It's not true, but we're still working 393 00:15:58,874 --> 00:16:02,714 Speaker 3: on that mentality to be like absolutely it's not. So yeah, 394 00:16:02,754 --> 00:16:05,354 Speaker 3: I love it and it's evolving to more than just 395 00:16:05,514 --> 00:16:06,354 Speaker 3: obviously shapewear. 396 00:16:06,354 --> 00:16:07,114 Speaker 2: We've got other product. 397 00:16:07,274 --> 00:16:10,074 Speaker 3: We've done events, which is all back into confidence and 398 00:16:10,114 --> 00:16:12,914 Speaker 3: backing yourself. We do the Feel Fun so we every 399 00:16:12,994 --> 00:16:15,394 Speaker 3: quarter we give five thousand dollars to a new female 400 00:16:15,714 --> 00:16:18,154 Speaker 3: founder who's got an idea. So that's all about just 401 00:16:18,234 --> 00:16:19,954 Speaker 3: going for it. So there's a lot of, I guess 402 00:16:20,074 --> 00:16:21,794 Speaker 3: layers to it because I think I put a lot 403 00:16:21,794 --> 00:16:23,034 Speaker 3: of myself into the brand. 404 00:16:23,194 --> 00:16:25,274 Speaker 1: You can tell your energy is like very authentic, and 405 00:16:25,274 --> 00:16:27,234 Speaker 1: I think also you know, it's not just a brand 406 00:16:27,274 --> 00:16:29,514 Speaker 1: with a name, it's you, and so you do I 407 00:16:29,514 --> 00:16:31,314 Speaker 1: can tell you take it so seriously in care so 408 00:16:31,354 --> 00:16:34,194 Speaker 1: much because they are coming to you not just a brand, 409 00:16:34,234 --> 00:16:36,714 Speaker 1: but jewels who made them feel good. And he's listening 410 00:16:36,714 --> 00:16:38,874 Speaker 1: to me. So there's a lot of responsibility, but you're 411 00:16:38,914 --> 00:16:39,394 Speaker 1: nailing it. 412 00:16:39,474 --> 00:16:41,554 Speaker 3: Yeah, I really like it's really humbling, you know, and 413 00:16:41,594 --> 00:16:43,714 Speaker 3: I think that's my thing when people come up and go, 414 00:16:43,754 --> 00:16:45,554 Speaker 3: you're doing so much for women and that makes me 415 00:16:45,634 --> 00:16:48,154 Speaker 3: really proud. So and that's you know, always say, good 416 00:16:48,154 --> 00:16:50,274 Speaker 3: things happen when you're just yourself and when you're comfortable 417 00:16:50,314 --> 00:16:53,434 Speaker 3: and confident in yourself and you you know, speak up 418 00:16:53,434 --> 00:16:55,034 Speaker 3: for yourself and you do things how you want to 419 00:16:55,074 --> 00:16:57,754 Speaker 3: do them and have conviction with that. Then you know, 420 00:16:57,834 --> 00:16:59,834 Speaker 3: if you don't hurting anyone along the way, I think 421 00:16:59,874 --> 00:17:00,754 Speaker 3: you can't really go wrong. 422 00:17:00,914 --> 00:17:03,114 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. So talk to me about the 423 00:17:03,154 --> 00:17:05,234 Speaker 1: models in your campaigns, and we do say models, but 424 00:17:05,273 --> 00:17:08,313 Speaker 1: there it's funny in media, especially in magazines, you'd call 425 00:17:08,314 --> 00:17:10,394 Speaker 1: them real women, like everyone is a real woman. 426 00:17:10,194 --> 00:17:11,874 Speaker 2: And I always stay try and get away from that. 427 00:17:11,954 --> 00:17:14,313 Speaker 3: I totally agree and say, like someone's come back with 428 00:17:14,354 --> 00:17:16,074 Speaker 3: the pressing and I always go, can you change that 429 00:17:16,114 --> 00:17:16,914 Speaker 3: to all totally? 430 00:17:16,914 --> 00:17:18,034 Speaker 2: Because all women are real? 431 00:17:18,314 --> 00:17:20,834 Speaker 1: How do you find these women? You mentioned how it's 432 00:17:20,834 --> 00:17:23,793 Speaker 1: so important to include them, but obviously they're not professional 433 00:17:23,794 --> 00:17:26,674 Speaker 1: models most of the time. Where do you find them? 434 00:17:26,674 --> 00:17:28,194 Speaker 1: What does it do to them after the street? What 435 00:17:28,234 --> 00:17:29,274 Speaker 1: do you see the change in them? 436 00:17:29,394 --> 00:17:31,553 Speaker 2: Oh, it's been amazing. Actually. 437 00:17:31,634 --> 00:17:34,434 Speaker 3: So my first campaign I ever did in two thousand 438 00:17:34,514 --> 00:17:37,194 Speaker 3: and twenty. What year was it, It was just before COVID. Yeah, 439 00:17:37,514 --> 00:17:39,834 Speaker 3: so I spent a year coming up with the idea. 440 00:17:39,954 --> 00:17:41,994 Speaker 3: I had about two and a half thousand applicants and 441 00:17:42,034 --> 00:17:46,154 Speaker 3: I read every single one. I cried, I laughed, I 442 00:17:46,234 --> 00:17:47,553 Speaker 3: you know, and that's when I was like this is 443 00:17:47,594 --> 00:17:49,474 Speaker 3: so important. Women want to be seen, women want to 444 00:17:49,514 --> 00:17:51,594 Speaker 3: share their story, and then for women to see themselves 445 00:17:51,634 --> 00:17:54,474 Speaker 3: in reflection. But my last campaign, I just did the 446 00:17:54,514 --> 00:17:57,114 Speaker 3: reshaping expectation and it was in my head it was, 447 00:17:57,754 --> 00:18:00,114 Speaker 3: you know, if we were young girls playing with dolls, 448 00:18:00,194 --> 00:18:01,594 Speaker 3: imagine that we did have a Barbie. 449 00:18:01,594 --> 00:18:03,434 Speaker 2: I mean, Barbie is amazing. Now let's get a credit 450 00:18:03,474 --> 00:18:05,154 Speaker 2: that actually has a childhood. 451 00:18:05,274 --> 00:18:07,474 Speaker 3: If there was one that was just like ups and 452 00:18:07,554 --> 00:18:09,513 Speaker 3: so that's why I made the figure dollhouse. So all 453 00:18:09,514 --> 00:18:12,354 Speaker 3: the women were all different shapes and sizes, and their 454 00:18:12,394 --> 00:18:15,154 Speaker 3: props inside were their story of what made them. Then 455 00:18:15,274 --> 00:18:17,634 Speaker 3: you know, one woman had hiking boots and then like 456 00:18:17,754 --> 00:18:19,754 Speaker 3: a pair of heels. It was like, well, I don't 457 00:18:19,794 --> 00:18:23,033 Speaker 3: fit the mold because I love doing like traditionally boy things, 458 00:18:23,474 --> 00:18:25,674 Speaker 3: but I like being a female really feminine as well. 459 00:18:25,754 --> 00:18:27,474 Speaker 3: So it was all these different and one woman has 460 00:18:27,474 --> 00:18:29,634 Speaker 3: a stonema, so she had like a you know, a 461 00:18:29,674 --> 00:18:32,434 Speaker 3: doctor's kind of script with her and so yeah, it 462 00:18:32,474 --> 00:18:35,314 Speaker 3: was really great in the sense and we read all 463 00:18:35,314 --> 00:18:38,754 Speaker 3: of them. This part of my work really matters. You know, 464 00:18:38,794 --> 00:18:40,114 Speaker 3: the girl with the stomach, she got asked to do 465 00:18:40,154 --> 00:18:42,154 Speaker 3: a speaking event last week. One of my girls in England. 466 00:18:42,234 --> 00:18:44,794 Speaker 3: She went from three hundred followers that she had when 467 00:18:44,834 --> 00:18:47,313 Speaker 3: she joined Figure, she's now got sixty thousand. She's been 468 00:18:47,354 --> 00:18:50,154 Speaker 3: signed with an agency, and I know that people go 469 00:18:50,274 --> 00:18:53,074 Speaker 3: there to find those women, you know, for different things. 470 00:18:53,154 --> 00:18:55,634 Speaker 2: Yeah, my alopecia girl, she's gone. 471 00:18:55,474 --> 00:18:58,594 Speaker 3: On to start her own you know, bald retreat and 472 00:18:58,634 --> 00:19:01,114 Speaker 3: it's given them the confidence to do that and that's 473 00:19:01,194 --> 00:19:04,554 Speaker 3: been incredible. So and that's how we find them literally 474 00:19:04,634 --> 00:19:07,714 Speaker 3: just doing callouts and we keep everyone on file and 475 00:19:07,754 --> 00:19:10,554 Speaker 3: I just keep sometimes call them up ourselves and remember 476 00:19:10,554 --> 00:19:12,754 Speaker 3: when you set that application and you'll always stand out. 477 00:19:13,034 --> 00:19:14,714 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's been really great and that something will 478 00:19:14,714 --> 00:19:16,514 Speaker 3: continue to do. And we do get some girls who 479 00:19:16,914 --> 00:19:19,034 Speaker 3: you know, loved doubling into a bit of social media. 480 00:19:19,514 --> 00:19:21,714 Speaker 1: That's incredible an overwhelming response. 481 00:19:21,834 --> 00:19:22,874 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been great. 482 00:19:23,354 --> 00:19:27,514 Speaker 1: You've had incredible moments many what's your proudest moment in 483 00:19:27,834 --> 00:19:31,914 Speaker 1: your fashion? I guess career? Oh what pops straight to 484 00:19:31,954 --> 00:19:34,514 Speaker 1: your head? There's always one little teeny tiny thought, Like. 485 00:19:34,594 --> 00:19:37,554 Speaker 3: My first thought is being in like the first edition 486 00:19:37,714 --> 00:19:40,074 Speaker 3: of Forbes Australia. Like that was a moment. But tell 487 00:19:40,114 --> 00:19:43,714 Speaker 3: us about that, Oh it was amazing, So was it. It was, yeah, 488 00:19:43,834 --> 00:19:47,794 Speaker 3: just for I guess what I do. So it was, yeah, 489 00:19:47,834 --> 00:19:50,073 Speaker 3: the first edition of the Australian Forbes magazine and I 490 00:19:50,154 --> 00:19:52,434 Speaker 3: was one of the ten creators in there. 491 00:19:52,834 --> 00:19:54,154 Speaker 2: So that was a moment. 492 00:19:54,514 --> 00:19:56,954 Speaker 3: Yeah, like I've actually framed the letter that I got 493 00:19:56,954 --> 00:19:57,714 Speaker 3: to say you'd be in it. 494 00:19:58,034 --> 00:19:59,634 Speaker 1: That was ad on my forehead. If that was me, 495 00:20:00,234 --> 00:20:00,874 Speaker 1: that's amazing. 496 00:20:00,914 --> 00:20:03,634 Speaker 3: But to like in the last you know, like this 497 00:20:03,714 --> 00:20:06,434 Speaker 3: year for me would be winning campaign of the year 498 00:20:06,754 --> 00:20:09,634 Speaker 3: actually com last week, like I was up for Founder 499 00:20:09,714 --> 00:20:12,313 Speaker 3: and I didn't care about I didn't win that one 500 00:20:12,474 --> 00:20:16,434 Speaker 3: most Inclusive Brand, Best Undergarment, and then campaign and that 501 00:20:16,514 --> 00:20:18,634 Speaker 3: was what was really important to me was winning that 502 00:20:18,754 --> 00:20:21,154 Speaker 3: because it's really a really important message. 503 00:20:21,194 --> 00:20:23,714 Speaker 2: So that I was like really really touched by. 504 00:20:23,834 --> 00:20:25,594 Speaker 1: And that's the campaign you were referring to the adults. 505 00:20:25,634 --> 00:20:28,954 Speaker 3: That's clever, creative, Yeah, because to be honest, you know 506 00:20:29,234 --> 00:20:31,154 Speaker 3: you're saying before like being kind of the face, it 507 00:20:31,194 --> 00:20:32,914 Speaker 3: was never meant to be about me. It was it 508 00:20:32,994 --> 00:20:35,114 Speaker 3: meant to be about other women. And I really try 509 00:20:35,154 --> 00:20:37,714 Speaker 3: and do that, but you know, unfortunately, like you know, 510 00:20:37,754 --> 00:20:39,514 Speaker 3: the ads, you get the algorithm, it does best when 511 00:20:39,514 --> 00:20:41,274 Speaker 3: I'm in it, and I get that because I live 512 00:20:41,274 --> 00:20:42,553 Speaker 3: it and I breathe it and I love it and 513 00:20:42,594 --> 00:20:44,434 Speaker 3: I really share the message of it. 514 00:20:44,794 --> 00:20:48,474 Speaker 2: But it is actually about the women in Australia. 515 00:20:47,994 --> 00:20:50,513 Speaker 1: Really but also shape where can look quite vanilla in 516 00:20:50,594 --> 00:20:52,434 Speaker 1: a campaign if it's just like he's a nude thing 517 00:20:52,474 --> 00:20:54,313 Speaker 1: on a nude body. You know, how clever to do 518 00:20:54,354 --> 00:20:55,434 Speaker 1: such a creative campaign? 519 00:20:55,634 --> 00:20:58,074 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's been great fun. There's a fun part 520 00:20:58,114 --> 00:20:59,154 Speaker 2: of it that's amazing. 521 00:20:59,914 --> 00:21:02,793 Speaker 1: Okay, So the world at the moment, I mean, I 522 00:21:02,834 --> 00:21:05,834 Speaker 1: think body confidence and body inclusivity came so far, but 523 00:21:05,914 --> 00:21:08,033 Speaker 1: now there's a thing called skinny. I don't even know 524 00:21:08,074 --> 00:21:11,194 Speaker 1: what that is. People are having body parts moved for, 525 00:21:11,594 --> 00:21:14,874 Speaker 1: you know, to overall look smaller. You remain very confident, 526 00:21:14,874 --> 00:21:16,994 Speaker 1: which is very refreshing and thank goodness. But what's your 527 00:21:17,034 --> 00:21:18,954 Speaker 1: take on all of that and what do you think 528 00:21:19,114 --> 00:21:20,834 Speaker 1: why is this happening to the industry when we've come 529 00:21:20,874 --> 00:21:21,234 Speaker 1: so far? 530 00:21:22,114 --> 00:21:24,754 Speaker 2: Firstly, I think, most importantly, a woman's body should never 531 00:21:24,794 --> 00:21:27,674 Speaker 2: be a trend to begin with. And you know, one minute, 532 00:21:27,714 --> 00:21:30,353 Speaker 2: we're celebrating the curve, you know, like the booty, like 533 00:21:30,514 --> 00:21:32,594 Speaker 2: you know, the kimmique trend that happened, and now we're 534 00:21:32,634 --> 00:21:36,834 Speaker 2: celebrating the super thin. I think it's it's so damaging 535 00:21:36,914 --> 00:21:38,634 Speaker 2: the messaging of it. 536 00:21:38,714 --> 00:21:41,114 Speaker 1: I know, it's a tree is a trend. It's just 537 00:21:41,194 --> 00:21:44,314 Speaker 1: that tree, Like you shouldn't the shape like we're big 538 00:21:44,314 --> 00:21:45,194 Speaker 1: boobs or small boobs. 539 00:21:45,234 --> 00:21:47,554 Speaker 3: I'm always like, what do you mean you? You know, 540 00:21:47,874 --> 00:21:50,834 Speaker 3: and as you know spoken about before, we're not a trend. 541 00:21:50,954 --> 00:21:54,313 Speaker 3: And it's about being comfortable as you are and not 542 00:21:54,354 --> 00:21:56,874 Speaker 3: placing so much value on your body or the size 543 00:21:56,914 --> 00:21:58,274 Speaker 3: of what you are or the shape that you are. 544 00:21:58,594 --> 00:22:00,914 Speaker 2: It literally is celebrating the. 545 00:22:00,834 --> 00:22:02,754 Speaker 3: Body that you've got and being like I'm alive, I'm well, 546 00:22:02,834 --> 00:22:04,793 Speaker 3: you know, and you can find something for you, you know. 547 00:22:04,834 --> 00:22:08,634 Speaker 3: And I think it's just so unhealthy. It's such an 548 00:22:08,714 --> 00:22:11,274 Speaker 3: unhealthy image to look at that and think, oh I. 549 00:22:11,194 --> 00:22:13,234 Speaker 1: Aspire to be like that physically and mentally. 550 00:22:13,314 --> 00:22:13,594 Speaker 2: Yees. 551 00:22:13,754 --> 00:22:16,313 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tricky, isn't it. I thought we came so 552 00:22:16,394 --> 00:22:18,394 Speaker 1: far and maybe we live in our own little ecosystems 553 00:22:18,394 --> 00:22:21,154 Speaker 1: and algorithms. But it's an interesting world to be in 554 00:22:21,194 --> 00:22:23,994 Speaker 1: a woman, and social media and fashion it definitely ebbs 555 00:22:23,994 --> 00:22:25,954 Speaker 1: and flows. So I think having people like you for 556 00:22:25,994 --> 00:22:27,594 Speaker 1: women to look up to to go, hey, you know, 557 00:22:27,994 --> 00:22:29,513 Speaker 1: oh I mean genuinely happy. 558 00:22:29,634 --> 00:22:32,994 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I I got offered hundreds of thousands of 559 00:22:32,994 --> 00:22:35,394 Speaker 3: dollars to sign up with a big brand for the pen, 560 00:22:35,514 --> 00:22:38,474 Speaker 3: and I was like, absolutely not. Anyway, it is a 561 00:22:38,514 --> 00:22:41,114 Speaker 3: really interesting time, and I don't think the answers. 562 00:22:41,674 --> 00:22:43,194 Speaker 1: I don't think there's been I g that I can 563 00:22:43,234 --> 00:22:47,674 Speaker 1: think of such a seismic shift in like wellness, health, fashion, everything. 564 00:22:47,994 --> 00:22:50,073 Speaker 1: I guess at the moment, so it's interesting to see 565 00:22:50,554 --> 00:22:53,114 Speaker 1: which way it goes. But I think you're obviously unwavering 566 00:22:53,114 --> 00:22:55,594 Speaker 1: and staying true to yourself, which is awesome because it's hard, 567 00:22:55,874 --> 00:22:57,794 Speaker 1: you know, especially if someone's throwing hundreds of thousands of 568 00:22:57,834 --> 00:23:00,833 Speaker 1: dollars at you, but that shows your long term you know, 569 00:23:00,954 --> 00:23:03,354 Speaker 1: it would be alienating your audience perhaps, so it just 570 00:23:03,354 --> 00:23:04,074 Speaker 1: doesn't align with you. 571 00:23:04,554 --> 00:23:07,474 Speaker 2: Yeah, it just I was like, hard, No, I think it. 572 00:23:08,834 --> 00:23:11,833 Speaker 1: Okay, your confidence is clear, it shines through and you know, 573 00:23:11,954 --> 00:23:13,674 Speaker 1: you said it is a practice. But a lot of 574 00:23:13,714 --> 00:23:17,194 Speaker 1: people you haven't been on that practice or just don't 575 00:23:17,194 --> 00:23:19,154 Speaker 1: have it as naturally or aren't there right now. So 576 00:23:19,154 --> 00:23:21,434 Speaker 1: what's your advice to those people that want to be 577 00:23:21,514 --> 00:23:23,434 Speaker 1: more confident and look up to you, but they just 578 00:23:23,474 --> 00:23:25,754 Speaker 1: their internal dialogue You know when they get dressed, they 579 00:23:25,794 --> 00:23:26,834 Speaker 1: just don't have it at the moment. 580 00:23:27,834 --> 00:23:30,674 Speaker 3: I think, as I said, it's not like a destination, 581 00:23:30,794 --> 00:23:33,634 Speaker 3: is definitely a practice. And I think just those small 582 00:23:33,714 --> 00:23:36,914 Speaker 3: things of just talking kind to yourself, like I honestly 583 00:23:37,234 --> 00:23:39,114 Speaker 3: as ranky as it sad, I all get ready and 584 00:23:39,634 --> 00:23:41,914 Speaker 3: you look great today, Like I just tell myself like 585 00:23:41,994 --> 00:23:45,354 Speaker 3: why not? And once you start thinking like that, it 586 00:23:45,474 --> 00:23:48,554 Speaker 3: just becomes your program of how you talk to yourself. 587 00:23:48,554 --> 00:23:51,034 Speaker 3: And that is such a big part of being confident 588 00:23:51,074 --> 00:23:54,033 Speaker 3: and feeling good. I think with your body, look at 589 00:23:54,034 --> 00:23:56,554 Speaker 3: yourself and be like, what do I like about my body? 590 00:23:56,594 --> 00:23:59,714 Speaker 3: You've all got to like something, go with that, find 591 00:23:59,754 --> 00:24:02,033 Speaker 3: that part and show that part off, or you know, 592 00:24:02,114 --> 00:24:04,274 Speaker 3: dress that part up. Like I think that's a really 593 00:24:04,554 --> 00:24:07,714 Speaker 3: simple way of a first step to find you know, 594 00:24:07,754 --> 00:24:09,994 Speaker 3: what suits you or what you feel, what you feel like, 595 00:24:10,034 --> 00:24:11,154 Speaker 3: you feel more confident in. 596 00:24:11,274 --> 00:24:13,634 Speaker 1: Yeah, just focuses on the positive. Yeah, don't keep telling 597 00:24:13,674 --> 00:24:15,273 Speaker 1: yourself the negative. Oh god, I need that for so 598 00:24:15,314 --> 00:24:18,874 Speaker 1: many reasons, honestly. That is it's so simple but hard. 599 00:24:18,994 --> 00:24:20,634 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's why I don't think, you. 600 00:24:20,594 --> 00:24:22,874 Speaker 3: Know, there's I don't you know, I have those days like, 601 00:24:22,874 --> 00:24:24,514 Speaker 3: oh my god, I'm covered in so like if someone 602 00:24:24,554 --> 00:24:26,394 Speaker 3: gave me a magic pill, I'll be gone. 603 00:24:26,434 --> 00:24:28,674 Speaker 2: I would take it, but I don't dwell on it. It 604 00:24:28,634 --> 00:24:30,994 Speaker 2: doesn't stop me from putting a bikini on. I don't 605 00:24:31,154 --> 00:24:33,834 Speaker 2: stop me from you know, like, it doesn't hold me back. 606 00:24:33,874 --> 00:24:37,154 Speaker 3: And I think that that's where our mindset has to 607 00:24:37,234 --> 00:24:39,194 Speaker 3: reframe to be like, oh my god, it's. 608 00:24:39,074 --> 00:24:39,514 Speaker 1: Just a leg. 609 00:24:39,714 --> 00:24:43,754 Speaker 3: You know, it's okay. You know it's okay, and that's 610 00:24:43,794 --> 00:24:46,154 Speaker 3: you know, in figure. That's why I never edit. I 611 00:24:46,194 --> 00:24:48,914 Speaker 3: always leave my cilu light there. I always leave everyone 612 00:24:49,034 --> 00:24:52,394 Speaker 3: stretch marks and scars because it's real. And as I said, 613 00:24:52,754 --> 00:24:55,234 Speaker 3: when you see that come back, it makes women go, 614 00:24:55,634 --> 00:24:56,594 Speaker 3: I'm okay. 615 00:24:56,314 --> 00:24:58,314 Speaker 1: It's just a leg. That's my favorite quote. It's so true. 616 00:24:58,314 --> 00:25:00,034 Speaker 1: It's just a like this other stuff to worry about. 617 00:25:00,634 --> 00:25:03,513 Speaker 1: Your campaigns are beautiful because there's so much diversity in 618 00:25:03,634 --> 00:25:06,634 Speaker 1: body size and body shape. Talk to about the age 619 00:25:06,674 --> 00:25:08,754 Speaker 1: of the women that come to you, and that your feature. Sure. 620 00:25:08,794 --> 00:25:12,154 Speaker 3: So my oldest ambassador, unfortunately she passed last year. She 621 00:25:12,274 --> 00:25:16,273 Speaker 3: was nearly ninety, and she just had a twinkle in 622 00:25:16,314 --> 00:25:17,793 Speaker 3: her eye. You and you're just like I want to 623 00:25:17,794 --> 00:25:19,434 Speaker 3: be you when I'm older. She's one of those women. 624 00:25:19,754 --> 00:25:22,513 Speaker 3: She was so fabulous. Her daughter in law applied her 625 00:25:22,514 --> 00:25:23,434 Speaker 3: and when I called her. 626 00:25:23,394 --> 00:25:25,714 Speaker 2: She was like, what, who is there? You know, so 627 00:25:25,794 --> 00:25:26,554 Speaker 2: she was amazing. 628 00:25:26,594 --> 00:25:28,354 Speaker 3: I've got a lady at the moment who's sixty, and 629 00:25:28,514 --> 00:25:32,154 Speaker 3: she was called the unedited doll, like unedited icon. That's 630 00:25:32,194 --> 00:25:35,234 Speaker 3: because she's gone like no filler, no botox, natural hair, 631 00:25:35,314 --> 00:25:36,354 Speaker 3: she is beautiful. 632 00:25:36,554 --> 00:25:38,034 Speaker 2: So everyone had a message in that regard. 633 00:25:38,314 --> 00:25:41,273 Speaker 3: My youngest is in her early twenties, but it's always 634 00:25:41,274 --> 00:25:42,474 Speaker 3: just been any age group. 635 00:25:42,514 --> 00:25:43,834 Speaker 2: We did a mother and daughter. 636 00:25:43,714 --> 00:25:46,114 Speaker 3: Campaign a couple of years ago, and that was to 637 00:25:46,234 --> 00:25:48,954 Speaker 3: show like the similarity in their bodies or the difference 638 00:25:49,034 --> 00:25:49,994 Speaker 3: or how different they look. 639 00:25:50,234 --> 00:25:52,794 Speaker 2: But also because I sometimes think as women, our. 640 00:25:52,674 --> 00:25:54,434 Speaker 3: Relationship times with my mother can be some of the 641 00:25:54,594 --> 00:25:56,553 Speaker 3: one of our most complicated ones. So I wanted to 642 00:25:56,634 --> 00:25:59,474 Speaker 3: highlight that to say, like, you know, they're not all 643 00:25:59,514 --> 00:26:01,553 Speaker 3: the same. Like, you know, everyone has like a bit 644 00:26:01,554 --> 00:26:03,434 Speaker 3: of like two of my girlfriends, their mum is like 645 00:26:03,474 --> 00:26:05,314 Speaker 3: they're bestie and they go out together and you know, 646 00:26:05,354 --> 00:26:06,793 Speaker 3: and I was always being like like, oh, so I 647 00:26:06,794 --> 00:26:09,834 Speaker 3: wanted to show that too, like everyone has different relationships, 648 00:26:10,114 --> 00:26:13,674 Speaker 3: but all ages literally all ages and up to you know, 649 00:26:13,834 --> 00:26:17,154 Speaker 3: size twenty four from size six and showing that. I said, 650 00:26:17,194 --> 00:26:19,994 Speaker 3: like shapewear is not just for you know, the curvy 651 00:26:19,994 --> 00:26:21,194 Speaker 3: girl to pour herself into. 652 00:26:20,994 --> 00:26:23,754 Speaker 2: A Microsoft skinny. It's not about that. It's a feeling. 653 00:26:24,234 --> 00:26:26,154 Speaker 2: And you know the size eight women love it too. 654 00:26:26,274 --> 00:26:28,754 Speaker 2: So that little peach pop that elevate gifts. 655 00:26:29,154 --> 00:26:32,154 Speaker 1: To our Scots, I love that. Okay, So tell me 656 00:26:32,194 --> 00:26:34,434 Speaker 1: how do you get dressed? What are your favorite Australian brands? 657 00:26:34,434 --> 00:26:35,914 Speaker 1: Where do you shop? What do you wear? 658 00:26:36,954 --> 00:26:38,634 Speaker 2: I'm a real mix really. 659 00:26:38,834 --> 00:26:40,674 Speaker 3: I've got my go tos that I love, for like 660 00:26:40,754 --> 00:26:44,154 Speaker 3: Red Carpet for you know speaking, I love wearing colors 661 00:26:44,194 --> 00:26:47,714 Speaker 3: and Patty. I love wearing Elliott dresses for like I 662 00:26:47,714 --> 00:26:49,834 Speaker 3: don't know, they just make me feel really feminine and beautiful. 663 00:26:50,314 --> 00:26:54,154 Speaker 3: I honestly, I have no If I see something I 664 00:26:54,234 --> 00:26:55,714 Speaker 3: like it, Like I said, I'm wearing something from the 665 00:26:55,754 --> 00:26:58,514 Speaker 3: op shop right now. Like I'm not a brand person. 666 00:26:58,634 --> 00:27:01,434 Speaker 3: I don't have like that's all I wear. But with 667 00:27:01,634 --> 00:27:05,754 Speaker 3: shopping in Australia, I do find that, you know, there's 668 00:27:05,794 --> 00:27:08,994 Speaker 3: certain brands that go, oh, we're inclusive, and then you 669 00:27:09,034 --> 00:27:11,074 Speaker 3: go into the shop and they don't have your size 670 00:27:11,234 --> 00:27:14,474 Speaker 3: they will do it online, but that also doesn't feel 671 00:27:14,514 --> 00:27:16,394 Speaker 3: inclusive because it's like, oh, we only go up to 672 00:27:16,474 --> 00:27:19,714 Speaker 3: a size sixteen, but it's on our website. So that's annoying. 673 00:27:19,754 --> 00:27:24,314 Speaker 3: And I think that when it's inconsistent sizing across brands, 674 00:27:24,474 --> 00:27:26,354 Speaker 3: and I think it's something we could do better because 675 00:27:26,874 --> 00:27:31,874 Speaker 3: unfortunately us women women, we then I guess when the 676 00:27:31,914 --> 00:27:35,114 Speaker 3: tag is different, we kind of blame ourself, not the dress, right, 677 00:27:35,754 --> 00:27:38,033 Speaker 3: And I think that's a really important point, is like 678 00:27:38,474 --> 00:27:41,313 Speaker 3: that tag does not define you at all, but we 679 00:27:41,354 --> 00:27:43,033 Speaker 3: do tend to do that if you try something and 680 00:27:43,074 --> 00:27:44,914 Speaker 3: you're like, oh but I am that size, No, it's 681 00:27:44,914 --> 00:27:48,354 Speaker 3: just the brand's different. So I think that's an important 682 00:27:48,434 --> 00:27:50,954 Speaker 3: thing in Australian fashion. I know that when I bring 683 00:27:51,034 --> 00:27:53,474 Speaker 3: out something new, I do try and go to another 684 00:27:53,594 --> 00:27:55,954 Speaker 3: like the big names and be like what are they doing? 685 00:27:55,954 --> 00:27:57,954 Speaker 3: And you can see there's a consistency when it comes 686 00:27:57,994 --> 00:28:00,474 Speaker 3: to things like that, especially with bras and stuff that 687 00:28:00,514 --> 00:28:02,834 Speaker 3: you try and get it all the same. But with clothes, 688 00:28:02,874 --> 00:28:06,794 Speaker 3: I don't think we've done that. I learned very quickly 689 00:28:06,794 --> 00:28:10,194 Speaker 3: that we'men and don't like letters. Like when I first launched, 690 00:28:10,194 --> 00:28:13,593 Speaker 3: I was like m l X yeah, and I got 691 00:28:13,594 --> 00:28:14,274 Speaker 3: a lot of feedback. 692 00:28:14,554 --> 00:28:15,474 Speaker 1: Numbers are better now. 693 00:28:15,594 --> 00:28:17,154 Speaker 3: Yeah, It's just they didn't like if it was like 694 00:28:17,354 --> 00:28:19,474 Speaker 3: XXL or it was like a psychological thing. 695 00:28:19,954 --> 00:28:21,394 Speaker 2: So I've changed to numbers. 696 00:28:21,434 --> 00:28:23,874 Speaker 3: Like my next round, like round two was like, okay, 697 00:28:23,914 --> 00:28:25,674 Speaker 3: we're now numbers. 698 00:28:25,194 --> 00:28:27,314 Speaker 1: So interesting to navigate from the brand side as well 699 00:28:27,354 --> 00:28:29,674 Speaker 1: as this, well, I think Australi can do better. We 700 00:28:29,714 --> 00:28:31,754 Speaker 1: can always do better. So let's hope that people you're 701 00:28:31,794 --> 00:28:34,754 Speaker 1: leading the way and people follow Thanks. Coming up after 702 00:28:34,754 --> 00:28:37,234 Speaker 1: the break, everyone's favorite segment and Jewels is keeping us 703 00:28:37,234 --> 00:28:59,154 Speaker 1: warm with some delicious coats. It's very expensive. How much 704 00:28:59,234 --> 00:29:04,634 Speaker 1: are these jewels? Bey to budget? It's cold, it's not 705 00:29:04,754 --> 00:29:07,114 Speaker 1: cold in this studio and I'm pery, so I'm always 706 00:29:07,474 --> 00:29:10,034 Speaker 1: but she's having a flush. I'm always having a flush. 707 00:29:10,194 --> 00:29:12,954 Speaker 1: Talk to me about these coats. Let's start with your budget. 708 00:29:13,074 --> 00:29:17,674 Speaker 3: Okay, Budget is a bigw It is on sale right now. 709 00:29:18,034 --> 00:29:20,474 Speaker 3: It was originally only forty nine dollars. It is gray, 710 00:29:20,594 --> 00:29:24,314 Speaker 3: it is oversized, it's lined, and now it's only thirty 711 00:29:24,474 --> 00:29:26,834 Speaker 3: and honestly, it is a hero piece. 712 00:29:27,034 --> 00:29:29,314 Speaker 2: And it also comes in a beautiful aubergine. 713 00:29:29,594 --> 00:29:35,154 Speaker 3: Oh aubergine, like really dark, beautiful yeah, really beautiful. 714 00:29:35,234 --> 00:29:37,354 Speaker 1: Do you get lots of samples because you're the ambassador, Like, 715 00:29:37,354 --> 00:29:39,354 Speaker 1: do you get to have every color? No? 716 00:29:39,554 --> 00:29:41,674 Speaker 3: I literally I got the gray because it was part 717 00:29:41,674 --> 00:29:43,674 Speaker 3: of my edits were put together and I was in 718 00:29:43,794 --> 00:29:45,354 Speaker 3: store the other week and I was like, oh my god, 719 00:29:45,354 --> 00:29:46,834 Speaker 3: why did I not get the aubergine one. 720 00:29:46,874 --> 00:29:49,274 Speaker 1: I will start a campaign. You need it. Honestly, if 721 00:29:49,274 --> 00:29:50,474 Speaker 1: you wear the Mountain about. 722 00:29:51,154 --> 00:29:51,954 Speaker 2: It's really great. 723 00:29:51,994 --> 00:29:54,114 Speaker 3: And I'm like for the thirty dollars now, like they're 724 00:29:54,154 --> 00:29:55,074 Speaker 3: literally giving it to you. 725 00:29:55,114 --> 00:29:56,274 Speaker 2: It is such a great coat. 726 00:29:56,514 --> 00:29:58,354 Speaker 1: I bought a fancy sandwich at a cafe the other 727 00:29:58,434 --> 00:30:00,954 Speaker 1: da't It was twenty four dollars. You say a sandwich, 728 00:30:01,034 --> 00:30:05,754 Speaker 1: yes's like a fancy toasted sandwich. Hello, coach, all right, 729 00:30:05,754 --> 00:30:07,114 Speaker 1: tell me about your bootie. 730 00:30:07,194 --> 00:30:10,394 Speaker 3: It's a cook eyed coat. It's darker gray. It's a 731 00:30:10,394 --> 00:30:13,674 Speaker 3: little bit more straight cut. But it's four hundred and 732 00:30:13,714 --> 00:30:14,314 Speaker 3: eighty dollars. 733 00:30:14,434 --> 00:30:16,834 Speaker 1: And I'm like, kneeling no long as well long? 734 00:30:16,914 --> 00:30:19,674 Speaker 3: Okay, So I mean, I'm sure it's like beautifully made, 735 00:30:20,074 --> 00:30:22,634 Speaker 3: but I'm also like thirty dollars, Like I get over 736 00:30:22,714 --> 00:30:24,154 Speaker 3: my coats, right, I like to wear them for one 737 00:30:24,194 --> 00:30:26,594 Speaker 3: season and then give them to dress for success. 738 00:30:27,114 --> 00:30:28,754 Speaker 1: I accidentally always put them on the floor and they 739 00:30:28,794 --> 00:30:30,674 Speaker 1: get grossy you put them on the floor. I'm a 740 00:30:30,714 --> 00:30:33,354 Speaker 1: floor person. Look, I've got some really expensive coats and 741 00:30:33,434 --> 00:30:34,994 Speaker 1: coats and then I've got some really affordable ones and 742 00:30:34,994 --> 00:30:37,994 Speaker 1: I love them equally. Yes, I agree, why we do 743 00:30:37,994 --> 00:30:41,034 Speaker 1: bruche you to budget? Okay, my item is quite a 744 00:30:41,114 --> 00:30:43,034 Speaker 1: unique thing to bring, but I'm obsessed and I wear 745 00:30:43,034 --> 00:30:46,034 Speaker 1: them all the time. It's a sheer V neck cardigan. 746 00:30:46,114 --> 00:30:48,554 Speaker 1: I'm not wearing one today, but it's what I always 747 00:30:48,554 --> 00:30:50,474 Speaker 1: reach for. But I don't know what to wear or 748 00:30:50,514 --> 00:30:54,074 Speaker 1: I don't know the dressiness level. I've got one from Uniclo. 749 00:30:54,354 --> 00:30:56,114 Speaker 1: I want, I say sheer. It's like I'm wearing a 750 00:30:56,194 --> 00:30:58,394 Speaker 1: very sheer top today. I just mean sort of that 751 00:30:58,474 --> 00:31:01,914 Speaker 1: more slinky knit, not really kind of a chunky knit, 752 00:31:02,594 --> 00:31:04,274 Speaker 1: and I wear you know, it's a V neck and 753 00:31:04,314 --> 00:31:05,914 Speaker 1: so you can kind of have a little bit of 754 00:31:05,914 --> 00:31:07,914 Speaker 1: cleavage or a little bit of skin if you want 755 00:31:07,954 --> 00:31:09,554 Speaker 1: to dress it up. I've got two black ones that 756 00:31:09,594 --> 00:31:11,914 Speaker 1: I love, Wanta Boogie, want to Budget, and I sometimes 757 00:31:11,954 --> 00:31:13,554 Speaker 1: wear them with like a suit pant or then just 758 00:31:13,634 --> 00:31:16,314 Speaker 1: like a gene you could just wear them everywhere so 759 00:31:16,354 --> 00:31:18,994 Speaker 1: I brought colors today because you know, I'm trying to 760 00:31:18,994 --> 00:31:21,954 Speaker 1: branch out my budget. Is from cotton on. It is 761 00:31:21,994 --> 00:31:25,194 Speaker 1: called the Cotton Feather Button cardigan. There's two colors, but 762 00:31:25,274 --> 00:31:28,714 Speaker 1: I like the porcelain, which is like a creamy, creamy, yeah, 763 00:31:28,714 --> 00:31:31,314 Speaker 1: porcelain V neck and if you look very closely, it 764 00:31:31,394 --> 00:31:34,794 Speaker 1: kind of looks fluffy, but it's it's still a semisheer 765 00:31:34,794 --> 00:31:36,314 Speaker 1: at the top and then it's kind of a bit 766 00:31:36,394 --> 00:31:37,994 Speaker 1: ribbed at the waist. But I've tried it on in 767 00:31:38,034 --> 00:31:39,674 Speaker 1: store and I just sized up because I like it 768 00:31:39,794 --> 00:31:41,794 Speaker 1: just to be a little bit kind of I don't know, 769 00:31:41,794 --> 00:31:43,714 Speaker 1: I don't want that. I don't want. I don't wear 770 00:31:43,714 --> 00:31:46,594 Speaker 1: cardigans because I want to be restricted. Forty nine ninety five. 771 00:31:46,874 --> 00:31:49,994 Speaker 1: And then another one that I've not tried this brand. 772 00:31:50,034 --> 00:31:51,674 Speaker 1: I must say, I haven't tried this brand, but I've 773 00:31:51,714 --> 00:31:53,314 Speaker 1: wanted you for a really long time, and people always 774 00:31:53,314 --> 00:31:55,034 Speaker 1: said to me, is it a scam? Have you tried it? 775 00:31:55,274 --> 00:31:58,474 Speaker 1: Haven't tried it? Reviews are good. It's called United Arrows 776 00:31:58,514 --> 00:32:01,714 Speaker 1: and it's a really popular Japanese brand, but it's expensive. Sorry. 777 00:32:01,914 --> 00:32:05,874 Speaker 1: So it's the United Arrow sheer V neck cardigan in brackets, washable. 778 00:32:06,314 --> 00:32:08,674 Speaker 1: I think the Japanese really like things to wash and wear, 779 00:32:08,754 --> 00:32:10,354 Speaker 1: and when you think of you like Unigo as well. 780 00:32:10,394 --> 00:32:13,114 Speaker 1: And I really appreciate that because I'm like, great, tumble 781 00:32:13,194 --> 00:32:15,274 Speaker 1: dry it, see you later two hundred and fifty five dollars. 782 00:32:15,314 --> 00:32:18,034 Speaker 1: So let me show it to you. For a cardigan, yes, 783 00:32:18,154 --> 00:32:19,754 Speaker 1: but it's really nice. I mean, I'm sure you can 784 00:32:19,754 --> 00:32:22,394 Speaker 1: get it elsewhere. That's the gray. It comes in a 785 00:32:22,434 --> 00:32:23,474 Speaker 1: million different colors. 786 00:32:23,674 --> 00:32:25,474 Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever seen a cardigan like her. 787 00:32:25,714 --> 00:32:28,194 Speaker 1: It's hard to find shit, and also v neck. 788 00:32:28,234 --> 00:32:29,394 Speaker 2: It's sheek, isn't it. 789 00:32:29,634 --> 00:32:32,114 Speaker 1: Well it's and you know travel, they're really handy. I 790 00:32:32,154 --> 00:32:34,434 Speaker 1: remember when I went to Italy once and I was 791 00:32:34,474 --> 00:32:36,394 Speaker 1: just stuck with my shoulders out. And it's funny I 792 00:32:36,474 --> 00:32:38,314 Speaker 1: mentioned that because yesterday I helped a girlfriend put her 793 00:32:38,554 --> 00:32:39,834 Speaker 1: and I'm going, are you going to the vatic? Are 794 00:32:39,874 --> 00:32:41,914 Speaker 1: going anywhere? You need to cover your shoulders And so 795 00:32:41,954 --> 00:32:44,874 Speaker 1: a cardigan like this is just handy for travel, and 796 00:32:45,314 --> 00:32:47,074 Speaker 1: they go on the floor well because they're not numbily 797 00:32:47,314 --> 00:32:50,554 Speaker 1: I just love. I'm just very clumsy and lazy. So yeah, 798 00:32:50,554 --> 00:32:52,914 Speaker 1: it just sort of a trans seasonal v nexhear cardigan 799 00:32:53,154 --> 00:32:55,674 Speaker 1: very not in the zeitgeist right now, not a trend, 800 00:32:55,914 --> 00:32:57,754 Speaker 1: but I always reach for them and the people are like, oh, 801 00:32:57,754 --> 00:33:00,994 Speaker 1: I like your cardigan. There you go, so fifty bucks 802 00:33:01,114 --> 00:33:02,354 Speaker 1: or nearly three hundred. 803 00:33:03,154 --> 00:33:05,554 Speaker 2: A bit of a difference, guys, difference. 804 00:33:05,194 --> 00:33:07,634 Speaker 1: And that's why we call it boushi in budget. Honestly, 805 00:33:07,834 --> 00:33:10,874 Speaker 1: I feel lighter talking to you. I know it was 806 00:33:10,914 --> 00:33:12,594 Speaker 1: about fashion, but it's so much more than that, because 807 00:33:12,594 --> 00:33:14,834 Speaker 1: you can genuinely feel your energy and that you're not 808 00:33:14,954 --> 00:33:17,674 Speaker 1: just you know, saying something, and that you you work 809 00:33:17,754 --> 00:33:19,554 Speaker 1: really hard on yourself and you're creating amazing things for 810 00:33:19,594 --> 00:33:22,474 Speaker 1: the women out there. So congratulations and thank you for 811 00:33:22,594 --> 00:33:23,034 Speaker 1: joining me. 812 00:33:23,114 --> 00:33:25,194 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, guys, thank you welcome. 813 00:33:25,554 --> 00:33:27,154 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining me. 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