WEBVTT - Anna Kendrick Has A Blake Lively Problem

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<v Speaker 1>So you're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges

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<v Speaker 2>From Mama Mia. Welcome to the Spill your daily pop

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<v Speaker 2>culture fix. I'm em Bernon and I'm Laura Brodney. Cappy

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<v Speaker 2>Monday or It's way too Cheery on a Monday. On

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<v Speaker 2>the show today, we are talking about a premiere for

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<v Speaker 2>a movie that happened over the weekend that we guarantee

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<v Speaker 2>has been all over your social media so much stand

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<v Speaker 2>on your TikTok. We're going to be getting into that.

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<v Speaker 2>But first, a.

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<v Speaker 1>Very exciting trailer dropped over the weekend, the first of

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<v Speaker 1>We've had teaser footage, we've had some photos, but this

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<v Speaker 1>is the first official trailer for the Last of Us

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<v Speaker 1>Season two. The new season's coming out in April, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's very exciting because we've heard a lots of bits

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<v Speaker 1>and pieces about like new characters or like what the

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<v Speaker 1>new kind of clickers are going to look like. And

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<v Speaker 1>this was our first look. And Emily, you haven't watched it, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't watched the trailer. I've watched I've seen some

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<v Speaker 2>of the set images, looks insane. But I actually haven't

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<v Speaker 2>watched the trailer.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Well, here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm gonna be live reacting. So if you guys

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<v Speaker 2>haven't watched it, watched it with me as well.

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<v Speaker 1>We've posted it to the spill Instagram account, so now

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be your time to quickly turn off the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>go and watch it, and then come back.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, she looks so much older. This is

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<v Speaker 2>where we leave that watching shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>People.

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<v Speaker 3>What's your.

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<v Speaker 1>Most Oh, by.

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<v Speaker 3>The time the sun comes up tomorrow, there's a very

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<v Speaker 3>good chance you'll be dead.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, this looks quite intense.

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<v Speaker 1>You look shull shocks like you really just went through something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I feel like season one it was like

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely brilliant, but I think being someone who's watched The

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<v Speaker 2>Walking Dead and things, it was kind of, I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>a slower take on apocalyptic kind of dystopian worlds, Like

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<v Speaker 2>there weren't that many intense, intense scenes, and this whole

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<v Speaker 2>trailer is just full of the intense scenes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, exactly. So we've got Bella Ramsay and Pedro Pascal

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<v Speaker 1>returning to their lead roles.

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<v Speaker 2>They look my shoulder.

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<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, and I also think there's quite a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a time jumping in season two, but also because

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<v Speaker 1>we ended season one with this huge secret between them,

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<v Speaker 1>which is that Ellie would have given up her life

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<v Speaker 1>to help them find a cure for the fungus that's

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<v Speaker 1>spreading through people, and Joel lied to her and said

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<v Speaker 1>that it was impossible to keep her alive. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>all going to come out this season. Plus they're living.

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<v Speaker 2>In a view I forgot that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel like I'm gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>go recap the whole season before you before season two

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<v Speaker 1>comes out. And a lot of new cast members in

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<v Speaker 1>season two, including Caitlyn Diaver, who I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people obviously we loved her before, but after she

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<v Speaker 1>played Belle Gibson in Apple Cider Vinegary, I think she's

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<v Speaker 1>got a much bigger fan base now. So she's joining

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<v Speaker 1>the season as a new survivor named Abby. Lots of

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<v Speaker 1>different things are happening, lots of new kind of clickers. Apparently.

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<v Speaker 1>I was listening to an interview with the showrunners where

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<v Speaker 1>they were saying that there's going to be like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more different creatures and a lot more kind of

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<v Speaker 1>building on that for the first season.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I know there's heaps more different types of creatures

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<v Speaker 2>in the actual video game. Yeah, and we only saw,

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<v Speaker 2>like I guess, a glimpse of what those entailed.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's my favorite thing. They're so beautiful and so creepy.

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite was like the big jumbo giant one that

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<v Speaker 1>came out of the ground that time. God, that was great.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's like even a bigger one that It's just

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<v Speaker 2>like I went through a huge rabbit hole. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>after the first season of like all the potential monsters,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that could come out in season two and the

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<v Speaker 2>ones that we didn't see as yet.

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<v Speaker 1>And excited and I just like my shows that my

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<v Speaker 1>apocalyptic shows are never mainstreams. This is very exciting for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I get to talk about this at work. Well. April thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>Season two is coming. Get excited.

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<v Speaker 2>So south By Southwest took place over the weekend and

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<v Speaker 2>during that a lot of films decide to have their

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<v Speaker 2>premieeres there and one premiere in particular has been all

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<v Speaker 2>over my TikTok and Instagram feed and it is for

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<v Speaker 2>the movie Another Simple favor So starring Anna Kendrick Blake Lively,

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<v Speaker 2>directed by Paul fig It's the sequel to the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen movie A simple favor, which I feel like everyone

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<v Speaker 2>I know has watched that movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh absolutely, because it's a great movie. It's so campy

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<v Speaker 1>and over the top and silly, but both of their

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<v Speaker 1>performances are so great. It's one of those ones. I

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<v Speaker 1>love it on a plane, I've got to say, really

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<v Speaker 1>like Past the Time. But it's one of those ones

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<v Speaker 1>you can just whack on when you want to, like

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<v Speaker 1>an easy movie night.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like Gone Girl if it was a comedy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yea.

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<v Speaker 2>So the reason why this is everywhere is basically just

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<v Speaker 2>everything that's happened on the red carpet for the premiere,

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<v Speaker 2>which was outside by Side West, and people have been

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<v Speaker 2>comparing the interviews that Anna Kendrick was doing on the

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<v Speaker 2>carpet with the interviews that Blake Lively was doing on

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<v Speaker 2>the carpet, in particular with when they were being asked

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<v Speaker 2>about working with each other. So there was this one

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<v Speaker 2>TikTok that I saw where people were saying a reporter

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<v Speaker 2>had asked Anna Kendrick what it was like working with

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<v Speaker 2>Blake Lively. I don't think that was a reporter. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was a fan, like a fan in the audience,

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<v Speaker 2>because I was like just paparazzis and like fans around,

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<v Speaker 2>like asking her to sign things. So I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 2>it was a fan who said, what was it like

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<v Speaker 2>working with Blake Lively?

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<v Speaker 1>And I wanted the needs to be working with blaking It.

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<v Speaker 2>It says on the video in captions where Anna Kendrick says, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and then like kind of trolled off, But

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<v Speaker 2>it's not that clear that that's exactly what she said

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<v Speaker 2>of that's exactly the person she was answering the question too,

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<v Speaker 2>like she was talking to fans in general and just

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<v Speaker 2>taking photos and moving along the line. So a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people are saying that that was kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>dig at Blake Lively, because on the other hand, Blake

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<v Speaker 2>Lively was interviewed what was like working with Anna Kendrick

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<v Speaker 2>and she said, Oh, it's got fast, I'm so happy.

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<v Speaker 2>On the actual red carpet, Anna Kendrick was asked how

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<v Speaker 2>she's feeling about everything that's happened, and this is what

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<v Speaker 2>she said, how does it feel like the movie's being

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<v Speaker 2>impacted kind of by everything happening around going on in

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<v Speaker 2>the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Why what happened? I did Ayahuasca and the last year

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<v Speaker 1>of my life has just gone. But I've heard the

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<v Speaker 1>movies amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>And she like immediately left.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think. I mean, look, there were a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of eyes on this premiere because it's the first time

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<v Speaker 1>that blake Lively has done anything. I mean, she went

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<v Speaker 1>to the SNL event when they had their fifth Deth celebration,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's the first time she's done full press since

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<v Speaker 1>the whole disastrous it ends with Us situation, and so

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of eyes on her of how

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<v Speaker 1>she was going to handle this And why I think

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<v Speaker 1>this one's particularly interesting is that there's always been so

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<v Speaker 1>much history between her and Anna Kendrick, and also the

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<v Speaker 1>initial Simple Favor press tour, so that movie came out

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty eighteen, that press tour played such a big

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<v Speaker 1>part in the hate campaign against Blake Lively, and like

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<v Speaker 1>that online situation around it ends with us because when

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<v Speaker 1>that remains, Yeah, because that so many of those clips

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<v Speaker 1>of her and Anna were pulled and resurfaced, and with

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<v Speaker 1>the first Simple Favor press tour, that was the first

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<v Speaker 1>time there was this online conversation of Blake Lively potentially

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<v Speaker 1>being a mean girl and she's awful and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of those clips were used in that whole campaign against her.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they're doing all those cuts of all the

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<v Speaker 1>different times there was cuts with her in Layton Mista

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<v Speaker 1>where they were on stage together, and depends how you cut.

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<v Speaker 1>The video made it look like Blake Lively was saying

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<v Speaker 1>things about late Mesta, Like she says something about being

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<v Speaker 1>born in a cage, and people thought that she was

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<v Speaker 1>saying that because late Mester was born in prison. And

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<v Speaker 1>then also something that people liking blondes more because she's blonde.

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<v Speaker 1>All these all things that like in the moment weren't

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal, but when they cut up, they seem

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<v Speaker 1>like a big deal. And also they were all the

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<v Speaker 1>interviews with her and Anna Kendrake because there was this

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing they had a feud when they did their

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<v Speaker 1>press to her. But I think it's more that they

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<v Speaker 1>just have very different personalities, and that's why I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of looking worse this time around, because Anna

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<v Speaker 1>Kendrake is very dry, she's very sarcastic, she's very kind

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<v Speaker 1>of biting with her commentary, whereas Blake Lively has always

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<v Speaker 1>been like bubbly and lovely, And that's why when they

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<v Speaker 1>have a conversation it looks like they don't like each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Like there was that really infamous clip where they were

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<v Speaker 1>asking Anna about being a Broadway star and being in

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<v Speaker 1>all these musicals, and she was talking about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it goes over to Blake and she was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sad I can't sing on never be a

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<v Speaker 1>Disney princess. And She's sitting there, is like this beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>blonde movie star, and Anna Kendrick goes, Oh, it's so

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<v Speaker 1>hard to be you, and that kind of went viral.

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<v Speaker 1>Is like they hate each other, But I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>just that their personalities are so different that if you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking for a fight, it looks like they're having an argument.

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<v Speaker 2>And a Kendrick's definitely like that with a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very that with all her co stars, that dry,

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<v Speaker 2>sarcastic sense of humor, and I can only think, like,

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<v Speaker 2>she wouldn't even have that sense of humor with but

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<v Speaker 2>like Lively, if they weren't friends.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I've always thought that I don't think there's

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<v Speaker 1>a huge few there one. I don't think if they

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<v Speaker 1>had such a terrible time on set as everyone's saying

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<v Speaker 1>they did, they would come back for a second movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Because yes, a lot of actors do things for money,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would understand coming back to do like a

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<v Speaker 1>Marvel blockbuster and getting fifty million dollars or something like

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<v Speaker 1>that that you just say, I will put up with

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<v Speaker 1>that person, even though I hate them. But these two,

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<v Speaker 1>like they both have like very lucrative careers or at

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<v Speaker 1>the stage now where they can even Blake Lively with

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<v Speaker 1>like everything that's happened. There's few actors in Hollywood who

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<v Speaker 1>can pick things that they want to do and they

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<v Speaker 1>have choices and have to just keep taking the next

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<v Speaker 1>project that comes along. And both of them have that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of power now they can be a bit more

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<v Speaker 1>cheue with their projects. So I don't think they would

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<v Speaker 1>say yes to going and filming in Italy for months

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<v Speaker 1>and it's such a two handle, Like the two of

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<v Speaker 1>them have so many scenes together, you know, they can't

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<v Speaker 1>separate themselves because their characters are together all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think either of them would sign up for

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<v Speaker 1>that if they hated each other as much as people think.

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<v Speaker 2>So people just kind of like grasping out totilas now

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<v Speaker 2>just because it's Blake Lively doing a new movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think all just kind of coming back to

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<v Speaker 1>this premiere is that there were just so many eyes

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<v Speaker 1>on them for that reason, because everyone wanted to see

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<v Speaker 1>how blake Lively would react. And it's really interesting, Like

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<v Speaker 1>Lee you were saying before, like a few of the

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<v Speaker 1>snippets have just been cut up and put out for

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<v Speaker 1>people to watch, but if you watch like the full

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<v Speaker 1>live stream or the full ray carpet interviews, blake Lively

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<v Speaker 1>is like as she would be, is like fighting for

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<v Speaker 1>her life because she's so aware of everything that she

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<v Speaker 1>has to say and how it's going to be cut

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<v Speaker 1>up and used against her. And she's being so gushy

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<v Speaker 1>and so lovely, which I get if everyone thought I

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<v Speaker 1>was a terrible bully. And all those videos previously of

0:11:06.824 --> 0:11:09.544
<v Speaker 1>her like saying things to fans that were cut up

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<v Speaker 1>of like you know, like when someone gave her a

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<v Speaker 1>friendship bracelet and she's like, oh, it doesn't go with

0:11:13.104 --> 0:11:14.464
<v Speaker 1>my outfit, so I won't put it on now, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'll wear it later. If that's someone you like, you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh it's so sweet. She was like, yeah, I'll take it.

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<v Speaker 1>But because people hated her, that really got blown up,

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<v Speaker 1>was like she told that woman she hated her bracelet.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you watch Blake Lively go down that interview line,

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<v Speaker 1>she's being so gushy and so lovely, and she's smiling

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<v Speaker 1>like almost manically, and like being really intense because I

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<v Speaker 1>think she's so aware that if she does anything out

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<v Speaker 1>of line, it's going to be blown up. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you've got Anna walking along being her kind of normal self.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is why I think like at this point

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<v Speaker 1>in time, Anna Kendrick has a bit of a Blake

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<v Speaker 1>Lively problem in two senses. One is that their whole

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<v Speaker 1>movie is now tainted with this story of it ends

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<v Speaker 1>with us and the court case and the accusations and

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<v Speaker 1>all that sort of stuff, So they can't do any

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<v Speaker 1>press and events without it, and and I can't do

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<v Speaker 1>any interviews without this subject being brought up. But the

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<v Speaker 1>other thing is that their personalities are so different that

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<v Speaker 1>if you're looking for a few, it's very easy to

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<v Speaker 1>see one because they contrast against each other so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I would also think with Anna Kendrick with everything going on,

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<v Speaker 2>because I feel like if I was in her situation,

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<v Speaker 2>I would try to not make it so obvious because

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<v Speaker 2>I would know that people would construe what I've been saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I do think they all went in

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<v Speaker 1>with quite a big game plan, and like one of

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<v Speaker 1>that is Blake to be like very bubbly and lovely.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think Anna had like some jokes ready, like

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<v Speaker 1>when the Variety reporter asked her, how does this impact you?

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<v Speaker 1>And she was like, wait, what do you mean? What happened?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's like kind of a funny way.

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<v Speaker 2>It also the exact same joke that Ryan Reynolds said

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<v Speaker 2>on this and now, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>How's it going great? Why what have you heard? No,

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<v Speaker 1>they're all peddling that out because it's kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>safe way. Also on that Variety interview, so it was

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<v Speaker 1>a variety reporter who is on the red carpet and

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<v Speaker 1>who asked how that it ends with us lawsuit is

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<v Speaker 1>impacting the movie? And I do feel for her because

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of those moments where like if you listen

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<v Speaker 1>to her ask the question, she kind of fumbles a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit and her voice is shaking, and then she

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<v Speaker 1>says it really quickly. She's scared. I would equally be

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<v Speaker 1>sc I've been in that situation so many times when

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<v Speaker 1>you're having an interview with someone and there's this elephant

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<v Speaker 1>in the room. You like, I have to ask about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm a bit nervous, And then.

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<v Speaker 2>You do some publication would be expecting it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and then you kind of almost overcompensate by

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<v Speaker 1>saying too much and saying it too quickly. I've done

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<v Speaker 1>that so many times before. And the Variety reporter is

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<v Speaker 1>getting like a bit slammed of people saying, like, why

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<v Speaker 1>would you ask that? And leave her alone and something

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<v Speaker 1>to do with her. But I feel for both the

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<v Speaker 1>Variety reporter and Anna Kendrick in that moment because it

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<v Speaker 1>just it's like a situation that just has to happen, essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>because you cannot be interviewing someone about a movie when

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<v Speaker 1>this huge legal case that's been so public is attached

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<v Speaker 1>to the person you're working with. And I think the

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<v Speaker 1>way she asked it, do you think this will impact

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<v Speaker 1>the movie? Is like quite a fair question. But then

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<v Speaker 1>I also feel for Anna Kendrake because she's signed on

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<v Speaker 1>to do press for this movie, like it's part of

0:14:04.144 --> 0:14:06.024
<v Speaker 1>the job that when you sign up for it, and

0:14:06.024 --> 0:14:09.824
<v Speaker 1>now she's contractually obligated to do all these interviews about

0:14:09.824 --> 0:14:12.064
<v Speaker 1>a legal case that she's not involved in and have

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of like find these funny answers, so they're

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<v Speaker 1>both in a bit of a shit situation. But also,

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<v Speaker 1>how could you not bring that up?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's no way everyone would have been expecting it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's the amplification of that video. Like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure if it needed to be cut from the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of the interview and just like led with that

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<v Speaker 2>to be like, I guess for the social amplification because

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<v Speaker 2>we know we work in like the media and in industries,

0:14:36.944 --> 0:14:38.864
<v Speaker 2>but you can tell, like you could say something so

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<v Speaker 2>so controversial on a podcast, for example, and if that

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<v Speaker 2>part doesn't get put on social media, a lot of

0:14:45.264 --> 0:14:47.464
<v Speaker 2>people would dis miss it. It's the stuff that gets

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<v Speaker 2>kind of amplified on social media that everyone just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of hones in on.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh. Absolutely, As you said, they've been walking down the

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<v Speaker 1>red carpet and they've been asked about working with each

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<v Speaker 1>other so many times, and they both give a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of different answers, but the one that's being cut up

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<v Speaker 1>and circulated is Blake Lively gushing about Anna Kendrick and

0:15:06.304 --> 0:15:09.344
<v Speaker 1>then Anna Kendrick going, oh, you know, as she works away.

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<v Speaker 1>But also I feel like that's her personality. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying their personalities are at odds, and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the time that would work really well for this

0:15:16.544 --> 0:15:19.384
<v Speaker 1>kind of like one to be very dry and self deprecating,

0:15:19.424 --> 0:15:21.624
<v Speaker 1>one to be very bubbly like that would work really well.

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<v Speaker 1>But just in this instance, it's making it look like

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<v Speaker 1>they have drama alongside each other, which a lot of

0:15:28.304 --> 0:15:32.944
<v Speaker 1>people also think is a part of the movie's marketing,

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<v Speaker 1>But I just don't think it is. Like Blake Lively

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<v Speaker 1>is in a massive lawsuit trying to prove that she's

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<v Speaker 1>not a terrible person, So why would you then base

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<v Speaker 1>a marketing campaign for another movie, Like it's not worth

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<v Speaker 1>the money.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's a good, like, I guess thing to

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<v Speaker 2>think about. If you're them, they'll be like, yeah, let's

0:15:47.624 --> 0:15:49.904
<v Speaker 2>just go with that. It's not like they were interviewed together.

0:15:49.904 --> 0:15:52.064
<v Speaker 2>They were interviewed separately, and those videos were cut together,

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<v Speaker 2>so you can see the stark difference of their applies

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<v Speaker 2>others that never would have happened when they were together.

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<v Speaker 2>And also just the like insidious rumors that are coming

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<v Speaker 2>out of this, Like there was a tweet that has

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<v Speaker 2>now been deleted that went absolutely viral of someone saying

0:16:06.424 --> 0:16:09.064
<v Speaker 2>that they were there and that Anna Kendrick didn't want

0:16:09.064 --> 0:16:11.224
<v Speaker 2>to walk the carpet with Blake Lively and they were

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<v Speaker 2>saying it was so awkward. That's now been deleted because

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<v Speaker 2>the director of the film, who was also a director

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<v Speaker 2>of the first film, Paul fig just like reposted that

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<v Speaker 2>and said this is total bs. Sorry, the movie is

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<v Speaker 2>finished and coming out soon. Don't believe anything you read

0:16:24.624 --> 0:16:27.624
<v Speaker 2>on social media these days. And I think Paul's had enough.

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<v Speaker 2>He's had enough, and he's such a big fan of

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<v Speaker 2>both of these women, and he even like talked about

0:16:32.304 --> 0:16:34.464
<v Speaker 2>Blake Lively and how much he respects her during the

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<v Speaker 2>whole case before the big New York Times expos saying

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<v Speaker 2>that the hate against her was not just and it's

0:16:41.824 --> 0:16:44.304
<v Speaker 2>just funny that, like the director of your film has

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<v Speaker 2>to come out and like show your support.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and interesting because he had to do that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot during the first movie too, when all of those

0:16:50.824 --> 0:16:52.824
<v Speaker 1>rumors were saying they hated each other and he had

0:16:52.824 --> 0:16:55.024
<v Speaker 1>to jump in then. Back then, I think it maybe

0:16:55.064 --> 0:16:58.264
<v Speaker 1>did work in the movies favor a slight bit, because

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<v Speaker 1>it was this intrigue of these two you know, Hollywood

0:17:00.864 --> 0:17:03.104
<v Speaker 1>women coming together and having this interesting press to you.

0:17:03.224 --> 0:17:04.704
<v Speaker 2>And we didn't know what the movie was going to

0:17:04.744 --> 0:17:07.504
<v Speaker 2>be about, Like the trailer didn't lead on to anything.

0:17:07.664 --> 0:17:09.904
<v Speaker 1>And Blake Lively was all in on the marketing that time.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember she deleted her entire Instagram account, she archived

0:17:13.384 --> 0:17:15.064
<v Speaker 1>it and then she brought it back and she was

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<v Speaker 1>just posting hints to the movie. And then she unfollowed

0:17:17.504 --> 0:17:20.064
<v Speaker 1>everyone and only followed people who had the same name

0:17:20.144 --> 0:17:22.784
<v Speaker 1>as her character, So she was all in. It was

0:17:22.824 --> 0:17:23.464
<v Speaker 1>fun at the time.

0:17:23.624 --> 0:17:26.104
<v Speaker 2>I know, I didn't make the car. She changed my

0:17:26.144 --> 0:17:26.584
<v Speaker 2>last name.

0:17:26.624 --> 0:17:28.944
<v Speaker 1>I know, oh, you're so close to being Emily Nelson.

0:17:29.184 --> 0:17:30.864
<v Speaker 1>And then this time around, I think that just because

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<v Speaker 1>of everything that's happened, they've had to be a little

0:17:32.944 --> 0:17:35.304
<v Speaker 1>bit more careful. But I think Paul in particular is

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting. We've had him on this podcast before. It's

0:17:38.184 --> 0:17:40.344
<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite interviews I've ever done. The last

0:17:40.344 --> 0:17:41.784
<v Speaker 1>time he was on the Spill, we were talking about

0:17:41.824 --> 0:17:44.064
<v Speaker 1>what it was like to have these big female lead movies,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was saying, like, you cannot imagine the eyes

0:17:47.664 --> 0:17:50.424
<v Speaker 1>that are on your project more so than any other movie.

0:17:50.424 --> 0:17:52.344
<v Speaker 1>Like he said, when he was making Bridesmaids, he was

0:17:52.384 --> 0:17:55.024
<v Speaker 1>getting calls from all these different studios saying we're just

0:17:55.064 --> 0:17:57.864
<v Speaker 1>gonna see how people react to your movie, how the

0:17:57.864 --> 0:18:00.344
<v Speaker 1>box office is, but also how people wreck to the

0:18:00.584 --> 0:18:02.504
<v Speaker 1>characters and the press too, and then we'll see for

0:18:02.624 --> 0:18:05.944
<v Speaker 1>green lights and female movies. And so it's this weird

0:18:05.944 --> 0:18:08.104
<v Speaker 1>thing of like all the pressure being on this one

0:18:08.184 --> 0:18:11.184
<v Speaker 1>movie because female led movies will still seen as like

0:18:11.184 --> 0:18:12.824
<v Speaker 1>a bit of a gamble at that time.

0:18:12.904 --> 0:18:15.784
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy. Yeah, and now I feel like now he's

0:18:15.824 --> 0:18:16.824
<v Speaker 2>just like owning the way.

0:18:17.344 --> 0:18:19.304
<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly, And so this time around he says like

0:18:19.344 --> 0:18:22.024
<v Speaker 1>I'm not having it. So what's interesting, It's like, shut up,

0:18:22.184 --> 0:18:24.944
<v Speaker 1>watch my movie. So what's interesting is once they went inside.

0:18:25.024 --> 0:18:26.304
<v Speaker 1>Do you know how when we go to these premieres

0:18:26.424 --> 0:18:28.104
<v Speaker 1>is like the big red carpet. They do all the

0:18:28.144 --> 0:18:31.184
<v Speaker 1>press outside, then the characters come inside and they stand

0:18:31.184 --> 0:18:33.864
<v Speaker 1>on the stage with microphones and they do a lot

0:18:33.864 --> 0:18:37.144
<v Speaker 1>more kind of preset questions because they have control over

0:18:37.184 --> 0:18:40.784
<v Speaker 1>what's being said. And in there a lot of photos

0:18:40.784 --> 0:18:43.304
<v Speaker 1>are circulating from that that I think look really damning

0:18:43.384 --> 0:18:45.424
<v Speaker 1>to Anna and Blake. But again it's just in that

0:18:45.544 --> 0:18:48.384
<v Speaker 1>moment because Blake's standing out really straight, and she's smiling

0:18:48.384 --> 0:18:50.784
<v Speaker 1>and she looks happy, whereas the photos they've chosen to

0:18:50.784 --> 0:18:53.664
<v Speaker 1>put of Anna next to her is Anna looking down,

0:18:54.184 --> 0:18:56.944
<v Speaker 1>kind of like looking, you know, like she's disassociating from

0:18:56.984 --> 0:19:00.344
<v Speaker 1>the whole situation. And that also looks like Blake is

0:19:00.384 --> 0:19:02.744
<v Speaker 1>having the time of her life and Anna's hating being there.

0:19:02.904 --> 0:19:04.904
<v Speaker 1>But it's just the photos. If you actually go into

0:19:04.944 --> 0:19:06.824
<v Speaker 1>Getty or anything like that and you click through the

0:19:06.864 --> 0:19:09.624
<v Speaker 1>two hundred photos that are there, there's plenty of photos

0:19:09.624 --> 0:19:12.464
<v Speaker 1>of them smiling together on stage, but they're just not

0:19:12.504 --> 0:19:14.944
<v Speaker 1>the photos being circulated souse of.

0:19:14.864 --> 0:19:16.664
<v Speaker 2>The photos that will get the click exactly.

0:19:16.744 --> 0:19:18.664
<v Speaker 1>So it does look like they hate each other. And

0:19:18.704 --> 0:19:20.864
<v Speaker 1>what's interesting too is Blake Lively saying this is her

0:19:20.864 --> 0:19:23.504
<v Speaker 1>favorite character she's ever played, which I would believe because

0:19:23.544 --> 0:19:27.104
<v Speaker 1>she hates people talking about Sorry Evander Woodson, come on, well,

0:19:27.184 --> 0:19:29.224
<v Speaker 1>I think it's kind of almost fair because she's like,

0:19:29.224 --> 0:19:31.784
<v Speaker 1>that's a caricature. It's not and people think it's her,

0:19:32.264 --> 0:19:33.904
<v Speaker 1>and she was like, no, it's like a really heightened

0:19:33.984 --> 0:19:35.744
<v Speaker 1>version of like this New York girl. It's not me.

0:19:35.864 --> 0:19:38.864
<v Speaker 1>But it's also not a great character to play. So

0:19:38.944 --> 0:19:41.464
<v Speaker 1>whereas Emily is like very layered and villainous and she

0:19:41.504 --> 0:19:43.304
<v Speaker 1>has a lot of fun with her, and then there's

0:19:43.304 --> 0:19:45.184
<v Speaker 1>a lot of clips of Anna saying nice stuff too,

0:19:45.264 --> 0:19:47.624
<v Speaker 1>but they just haven't been circulated. So the point of

0:19:47.624 --> 0:19:49.704
<v Speaker 1>this is like they could hate each other. Yeah, we

0:19:49.784 --> 0:19:51.624
<v Speaker 1>just don't know they could hate each other. What I'm

0:19:51.664 --> 0:19:55.904
<v Speaker 1>saying is the information that has been presented is very

0:19:55.944 --> 0:19:57.664
<v Speaker 1>strongly pushing in a different way.

0:19:57.984 --> 0:19:58.544
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:19:58.584 --> 0:20:00.744
<v Speaker 1>And also I'm interested to see how the rest of

0:20:00.784 --> 0:20:03.144
<v Speaker 1>their press tour goes before this movie comes out in

0:20:03.184 --> 0:20:04.464
<v Speaker 1>May or So I'm freaking excited for this.

0:20:04.624 --> 0:20:06.304
<v Speaker 2>I'm excited. I hope we get tickets.

0:20:06.424 --> 0:20:08.904
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Prime Video if you're listening, well it's coming to Prime,

0:20:08.944 --> 0:20:10.024
<v Speaker 1>so we can watch it at home. Maybe we have

0:20:10.064 --> 0:20:12.024
<v Speaker 1>a little movie night. But it's, like Ex said, in Italy,

0:20:12.464 --> 0:20:15.264
<v Speaker 1>it's these two villainous women coming back together. I'm just

0:20:15.304 --> 0:20:17.944
<v Speaker 1>I'm so freaking getting a white lotus vibes. Yeah, yeah,

0:20:17.984 --> 0:20:19.504
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that. Maybe that's why they decided to

0:20:19.544 --> 0:20:21.504
<v Speaker 1>film in Italy. But yeah, I just think I'd be

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<v Speaker 1>interested to see the rest of their press tour because

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<v Speaker 1>of their personality mismatch, of how much that's gonna look

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<v Speaker 1>like they hate each other and how much that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>kind of impact Blake Lively's like online persona leading into

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<v Speaker 1>her court case.

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