1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:16,024 Speaker 1: So you're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges 2 00:00:16,104 --> 00:00:19,584 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of land and borders that this podcast 3 00:00:19,704 --> 00:00:20,504 Speaker 1: is recorded on. 4 00:00:25,344 --> 00:00:28,584 Speaker 2: From Mama Mia. Welcome to the Spill your daily pop 5 00:00:28,624 --> 00:00:32,344 Speaker 2: culture fix. I'm em Bernon and I'm Laura Brodney. Cappy 6 00:00:32,464 --> 00:00:36,024 Speaker 2: Monday or It's way too Cheery on a Monday. On 7 00:00:36,144 --> 00:00:39,664 Speaker 2: the show today, we are talking about a premiere for 8 00:00:39,864 --> 00:00:43,264 Speaker 2: a movie that happened over the weekend that we guarantee 9 00:00:43,304 --> 00:00:45,904 Speaker 2: has been all over your social media so much stand 10 00:00:45,984 --> 00:00:48,064 Speaker 2: on your TikTok. We're going to be getting into that. 11 00:00:48,264 --> 00:00:49,344 Speaker 2: But first, a. 12 00:00:49,424 --> 00:00:52,504 Speaker 1: Very exciting trailer dropped over the weekend, the first of 13 00:00:52,584 --> 00:00:55,704 Speaker 1: We've had teaser footage, we've had some photos, but this 14 00:00:55,824 --> 00:00:58,944 Speaker 1: is the first official trailer for the Last of Us 15 00:00:58,984 --> 00:01:02,344 Speaker 1: Season two. The new season's coming out in April, and 16 00:01:02,744 --> 00:01:05,024 Speaker 1: it's very exciting because we've heard a lots of bits 17 00:01:05,024 --> 00:01:07,744 Speaker 1: and pieces about like new characters or like what the 18 00:01:07,784 --> 00:01:09,624 Speaker 1: new kind of clickers are going to look like. And 19 00:01:09,664 --> 00:01:12,624 Speaker 1: this was our first look. And Emily, you haven't watched it, right. 20 00:01:12,864 --> 00:01:15,384 Speaker 2: I haven't watched the trailer. I've watched I've seen some 21 00:01:15,504 --> 00:01:19,384 Speaker 2: of the set images, looks insane. But I actually haven't 22 00:01:19,424 --> 00:01:20,224 Speaker 2: watched the trailer. 23 00:01:20,584 --> 00:01:21,464 Speaker 1: Right, Well, here we go. 24 00:01:21,664 --> 00:01:24,224 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna be live reacting. So if you guys 25 00:01:24,264 --> 00:01:26,344 Speaker 2: haven't watched it, watched it with me as well. 26 00:01:26,384 --> 00:01:28,664 Speaker 1: We've posted it to the spill Instagram account, so now 27 00:01:28,704 --> 00:01:30,664 Speaker 1: it'll be your time to quickly turn off the podcast, 28 00:01:30,784 --> 00:01:32,184 Speaker 1: go and watch it, and then come back. 29 00:01:37,504 --> 00:01:43,744 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, she looks so much older. This is 30 00:01:43,744 --> 00:01:50,184 Speaker 2: where we leave that watching shirt. 31 00:01:52,504 --> 00:01:52,864 Speaker 1: People. 32 00:01:55,504 --> 00:01:56,024 Speaker 3: What's your. 33 00:02:02,184 --> 00:02:13,144 Speaker 1: Most Oh, by. 34 00:02:12,944 --> 00:02:19,624 Speaker 3: The time the sun comes up tomorrow, there's a very 35 00:02:19,664 --> 00:02:26,864 Speaker 3: good chance you'll be dead. 36 00:02:28,824 --> 00:02:31,024 Speaker 2: Oh my god, this looks quite intense. 37 00:02:31,064 --> 00:02:33,544 Speaker 1: You look shull shocks like you really just went through something. 38 00:02:33,944 --> 00:02:36,544 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I feel like season one it was like 39 00:02:36,744 --> 00:02:42,144 Speaker 2: absolutely brilliant, but I think being someone who's watched The 40 00:02:42,224 --> 00:02:45,344 Speaker 2: Walking Dead and things, it was kind of, I guess, 41 00:02:45,344 --> 00:02:50,504 Speaker 2: a slower take on apocalyptic kind of dystopian worlds, Like 42 00:02:50,504 --> 00:02:54,784 Speaker 2: there weren't that many intense, intense scenes, and this whole 43 00:02:54,824 --> 00:02:56,784 Speaker 2: trailer is just full of the intense scenes. 44 00:02:56,944 --> 00:03:00,024 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. So we've got Bella Ramsay and Pedro Pascal 45 00:03:00,184 --> 00:03:01,504 Speaker 1: returning to their lead roles. 46 00:03:01,544 --> 00:03:02,504 Speaker 2: They look my shoulder. 47 00:03:02,824 --> 00:03:04,344 Speaker 1: Well yeah, and I also think there's quite a bit 48 00:03:04,344 --> 00:03:07,224 Speaker 1: of a time jumping in season two, but also because 49 00:03:07,224 --> 00:03:10,144 Speaker 1: we ended season one with this huge secret between them, 50 00:03:10,424 --> 00:03:12,504 Speaker 1: which is that Ellie would have given up her life 51 00:03:12,544 --> 00:03:15,464 Speaker 1: to help them find a cure for the fungus that's 52 00:03:15,464 --> 00:03:18,704 Speaker 1: spreading through people, and Joel lied to her and said 53 00:03:18,744 --> 00:03:21,304 Speaker 1: that it was impossible to keep her alive. So that's 54 00:03:21,344 --> 00:03:23,504 Speaker 1: all going to come out this season. Plus they're living. 55 00:03:23,384 --> 00:03:24,784 Speaker 2: In a view I forgot that. 56 00:03:24,944 --> 00:03:26,384 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel like I'm gonna have to 57 00:03:26,384 --> 00:03:28,584 Speaker 1: go recap the whole season before you before season two 58 00:03:28,584 --> 00:03:30,944 Speaker 1: comes out. And a lot of new cast members in 59 00:03:31,024 --> 00:03:34,104 Speaker 1: season two, including Caitlyn Diaver, who I think a lot 60 00:03:34,104 --> 00:03:36,904 Speaker 1: of people obviously we loved her before, but after she 61 00:03:37,064 --> 00:03:40,424 Speaker 1: played Belle Gibson in Apple Cider Vinegary, I think she's 62 00:03:40,464 --> 00:03:43,144 Speaker 1: got a much bigger fan base now. So she's joining 63 00:03:43,144 --> 00:03:45,984 Speaker 1: the season as a new survivor named Abby. Lots of 64 00:03:45,984 --> 00:03:49,104 Speaker 1: different things are happening, lots of new kind of clickers. Apparently. 65 00:03:49,104 --> 00:03:51,104 Speaker 1: I was listening to an interview with the showrunners where 66 00:03:51,104 --> 00:03:53,144 Speaker 1: they were saying that there's going to be like a 67 00:03:53,144 --> 00:03:55,584 Speaker 1: lot more different creatures and a lot more kind of 68 00:03:55,624 --> 00:03:57,344 Speaker 1: building on that for the first season. 69 00:03:57,424 --> 00:04:00,304 Speaker 2: Because I know there's heaps more different types of creatures 70 00:04:00,344 --> 00:04:03,064 Speaker 2: in the actual video game. Yeah, and we only saw, 71 00:04:03,184 --> 00:04:06,384 Speaker 2: like I guess, a glimpse of what those entailed. 72 00:04:06,384 --> 00:04:10,464 Speaker 1: And that's my favorite thing. They're so beautiful and so creepy. 73 00:04:10,704 --> 00:04:13,664 Speaker 1: My favorite was like the big jumbo giant one that 74 00:04:13,784 --> 00:04:15,984 Speaker 1: came out of the ground that time. God, that was great. 75 00:04:16,344 --> 00:04:18,704 Speaker 2: And there's like even a bigger one that It's just 76 00:04:18,744 --> 00:04:20,624 Speaker 2: like I went through a huge rabbit hole. I remember 77 00:04:20,664 --> 00:04:23,584 Speaker 2: after the first season of like all the potential monsters, 78 00:04:23,664 --> 00:04:25,904 Speaker 2: Yeah that could come out in season two and the 79 00:04:25,904 --> 00:04:27,584 Speaker 2: ones that we didn't see as yet. 80 00:04:27,504 --> 00:04:29,984 Speaker 1: And excited and I just like my shows that my 81 00:04:30,184 --> 00:04:32,944 Speaker 1: apocalyptic shows are never mainstreams. This is very exciting for me. 82 00:04:34,344 --> 00:04:36,904 Speaker 1: I get to talk about this at work. Well. April thirteen, 83 00:04:37,264 --> 00:04:39,144 Speaker 1: Season two is coming. Get excited. 84 00:04:40,384 --> 00:04:44,344 Speaker 2: So south By Southwest took place over the weekend and 85 00:04:44,504 --> 00:04:46,944 Speaker 2: during that a lot of films decide to have their 86 00:04:46,984 --> 00:04:51,144 Speaker 2: premieeres there and one premiere in particular has been all 87 00:04:51,424 --> 00:04:55,024 Speaker 2: over my TikTok and Instagram feed and it is for 88 00:04:55,304 --> 00:04:59,384 Speaker 2: the movie Another Simple favor So starring Anna Kendrick Blake Lively, 89 00:04:59,464 --> 00:05:03,064 Speaker 2: directed by Paul fig It's the sequel to the twenty 90 00:05:03,184 --> 00:05:06,864 Speaker 2: eighteen movie A simple favor, which I feel like everyone 91 00:05:06,904 --> 00:05:08,224 Speaker 2: I know has watched that movie. 92 00:05:08,424 --> 00:05:11,184 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, because it's a great movie. It's so campy 93 00:05:11,224 --> 00:05:13,304 Speaker 1: and over the top and silly, but both of their 94 00:05:13,304 --> 00:05:16,264 Speaker 1: performances are so great. It's one of those ones. I 95 00:05:16,304 --> 00:05:18,144 Speaker 1: love it on a plane, I've got to say, really 96 00:05:18,184 --> 00:05:19,784 Speaker 1: like Past the Time. But it's one of those ones 97 00:05:19,824 --> 00:05:21,264 Speaker 1: you can just whack on when you want to, like 98 00:05:21,304 --> 00:05:22,144 Speaker 1: an easy movie night. 99 00:05:22,384 --> 00:05:24,184 Speaker 2: It's like Gone Girl if it was a comedy. 100 00:05:24,424 --> 00:05:24,544 Speaker 1: Yea. 101 00:05:26,104 --> 00:05:28,824 Speaker 2: So the reason why this is everywhere is basically just 102 00:05:28,904 --> 00:05:32,064 Speaker 2: everything that's happened on the red carpet for the premiere, 103 00:05:32,104 --> 00:05:35,144 Speaker 2: which was outside by Side West, and people have been 104 00:05:35,184 --> 00:05:38,824 Speaker 2: comparing the interviews that Anna Kendrick was doing on the 105 00:05:38,864 --> 00:05:41,744 Speaker 2: carpet with the interviews that Blake Lively was doing on 106 00:05:41,784 --> 00:05:44,744 Speaker 2: the carpet, in particular with when they were being asked 107 00:05:44,784 --> 00:05:47,984 Speaker 2: about working with each other. So there was this one 108 00:05:48,024 --> 00:05:50,904 Speaker 2: TikTok that I saw where people were saying a reporter 109 00:05:51,104 --> 00:05:54,104 Speaker 2: had asked Anna Kendrick what it was like working with 110 00:05:54,104 --> 00:05:56,824 Speaker 2: Blake Lively. I don't think that was a reporter. I 111 00:05:56,824 --> 00:05:58,944 Speaker 2: think it was a fan, like a fan in the audience, 112 00:05:58,944 --> 00:06:02,504 Speaker 2: because I was like just paparazzis and like fans around, 113 00:06:02,544 --> 00:06:04,264 Speaker 2: like asking her to sign things. So I'm pretty sure 114 00:06:04,264 --> 00:06:05,984 Speaker 2: it was a fan who said, what was it like 115 00:06:06,064 --> 00:06:07,464 Speaker 2: working with Blake Lively? 116 00:06:07,824 --> 00:06:12,424 Speaker 1: And I wanted the needs to be working with blaking It. 117 00:06:12,424 --> 00:06:16,144 Speaker 2: It says on the video in captions where Anna Kendrick says, oh, 118 00:06:16,264 --> 00:06:19,064 Speaker 2: you know, and then like kind of trolled off, But 119 00:06:19,984 --> 00:06:22,704 Speaker 2: it's not that clear that that's exactly what she said 120 00:06:22,864 --> 00:06:26,104 Speaker 2: of that's exactly the person she was answering the question too, 121 00:06:26,224 --> 00:06:28,144 Speaker 2: like she was talking to fans in general and just 122 00:06:28,304 --> 00:06:31,264 Speaker 2: taking photos and moving along the line. So a lot 123 00:06:31,264 --> 00:06:32,784 Speaker 2: of people are saying that that was kind of a 124 00:06:32,824 --> 00:06:35,184 Speaker 2: dig at Blake Lively, because on the other hand, Blake 125 00:06:35,224 --> 00:06:38,104 Speaker 2: Lively was interviewed what was like working with Anna Kendrick 126 00:06:38,184 --> 00:06:40,824 Speaker 2: and she said, Oh, it's got fast, I'm so happy. 127 00:06:41,464 --> 00:06:45,344 Speaker 2: On the actual red carpet, Anna Kendrick was asked how 128 00:06:45,344 --> 00:06:47,664 Speaker 2: she's feeling about everything that's happened, and this is what 129 00:06:47,704 --> 00:06:49,904 Speaker 2: she said, how does it feel like the movie's being 130 00:06:49,944 --> 00:06:52,424 Speaker 2: impacted kind of by everything happening around going on in 131 00:06:52,424 --> 00:06:52,704 Speaker 2: the world. 132 00:06:52,744 --> 00:06:55,464 Speaker 1: Why what happened? I did Ayahuasca and the last year 133 00:06:55,504 --> 00:06:57,144 Speaker 1: of my life has just gone. But I've heard the 134 00:06:57,184 --> 00:06:59,024 Speaker 1: movies amazing. 135 00:06:58,744 --> 00:07:00,904 Speaker 2: And she like immediately left. 136 00:07:01,544 --> 00:07:03,104 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. I mean, look, there were a lot 137 00:07:03,144 --> 00:07:05,464 Speaker 1: of eyes on this premiere because it's the first time 138 00:07:05,504 --> 00:07:08,344 Speaker 1: that blake Lively has done anything. I mean, she went 139 00:07:08,384 --> 00:07:11,104 Speaker 1: to the SNL event when they had their fifth Deth celebration, 140 00:07:11,184 --> 00:07:13,664 Speaker 1: but it's the first time she's done full press since 141 00:07:13,744 --> 00:07:17,184 Speaker 1: the whole disastrous it ends with Us situation, and so 142 00:07:17,304 --> 00:07:19,304 Speaker 1: there was a lot of eyes on her of how 143 00:07:19,344 --> 00:07:20,944 Speaker 1: she was going to handle this And why I think 144 00:07:20,984 --> 00:07:23,584 Speaker 1: this one's particularly interesting is that there's always been so 145 00:07:23,664 --> 00:07:27,584 Speaker 1: much history between her and Anna Kendrick, and also the 146 00:07:27,624 --> 00:07:30,424 Speaker 1: initial Simple Favor press tour, so that movie came out 147 00:07:30,424 --> 00:07:33,744 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, that press tour played such a big 148 00:07:33,784 --> 00:07:36,584 Speaker 1: part in the hate campaign against Blake Lively, and like 149 00:07:36,624 --> 00:07:41,584 Speaker 1: that online situation around it ends with us because when 150 00:07:41,624 --> 00:07:44,144 Speaker 1: that remains, Yeah, because that so many of those clips 151 00:07:44,144 --> 00:07:47,504 Speaker 1: of her and Anna were pulled and resurfaced, and with 152 00:07:47,744 --> 00:07:50,464 Speaker 1: the first Simple Favor press tour, that was the first 153 00:07:50,464 --> 00:07:54,344 Speaker 1: time there was this online conversation of Blake Lively potentially 154 00:07:54,424 --> 00:07:57,384 Speaker 1: being a mean girl and she's awful and a lot 155 00:07:57,384 --> 00:08:00,144 Speaker 1: of those clips were used in that whole campaign against her. 156 00:08:00,144 --> 00:08:01,624 Speaker 1: You know, they're doing all those cuts of all the 157 00:08:01,664 --> 00:08:04,264 Speaker 1: different times there was cuts with her in Layton Mista 158 00:08:04,784 --> 00:08:07,664 Speaker 1: where they were on stage together, and depends how you cut. 159 00:08:07,704 --> 00:08:10,504 Speaker 1: The video made it look like Blake Lively was saying 160 00:08:10,544 --> 00:08:13,424 Speaker 1: things about late Mesta, Like she says something about being 161 00:08:13,464 --> 00:08:15,304 Speaker 1: born in a cage, and people thought that she was 162 00:08:15,344 --> 00:08:18,664 Speaker 1: saying that because late Mester was born in prison. And 163 00:08:18,664 --> 00:08:22,304 Speaker 1: then also something that people liking blondes more because she's blonde. 164 00:08:22,344 --> 00:08:24,144 Speaker 1: All these all things that like in the moment weren't 165 00:08:24,144 --> 00:08:25,784 Speaker 1: a big deal, but when they cut up, they seem 166 00:08:25,864 --> 00:08:28,184 Speaker 1: like a big deal. And also they were all the 167 00:08:28,504 --> 00:08:31,224 Speaker 1: interviews with her and Anna Kendrake because there was this 168 00:08:31,264 --> 00:08:32,824 Speaker 1: whole thing they had a feud when they did their 169 00:08:32,824 --> 00:08:34,664 Speaker 1: press to her. But I think it's more that they 170 00:08:34,704 --> 00:08:37,784 Speaker 1: just have very different personalities, and that's why I think 171 00:08:37,824 --> 00:08:40,944 Speaker 1: it's kind of looking worse this time around, because Anna 172 00:08:41,024 --> 00:08:44,224 Speaker 1: Kendrake is very dry, she's very sarcastic, she's very kind 173 00:08:44,264 --> 00:08:47,464 Speaker 1: of biting with her commentary, whereas Blake Lively has always 174 00:08:47,504 --> 00:08:51,104 Speaker 1: been like bubbly and lovely, And that's why when they 175 00:08:51,144 --> 00:08:53,744 Speaker 1: have a conversation it looks like they don't like each other. 176 00:08:54,104 --> 00:08:56,144 Speaker 1: Like there was that really infamous clip where they were 177 00:08:56,184 --> 00:08:58,184 Speaker 1: asking Anna about being a Broadway star and being in 178 00:08:58,184 --> 00:09:00,064 Speaker 1: all these musicals, and she was talking about it, and 179 00:09:00,104 --> 00:09:01,664 Speaker 1: then it goes over to Blake and she was like, 180 00:09:01,984 --> 00:09:04,064 Speaker 1: I'm so sad I can't sing on never be a 181 00:09:04,104 --> 00:09:06,344 Speaker 1: Disney princess. And She's sitting there, is like this beautiful 182 00:09:06,384 --> 00:09:08,904 Speaker 1: blonde movie star, and Anna Kendrick goes, Oh, it's so 183 00:09:08,944 --> 00:09:11,744 Speaker 1: hard to be you, and that kind of went viral. 184 00:09:11,824 --> 00:09:13,544 Speaker 1: Is like they hate each other, But I think it's 185 00:09:13,584 --> 00:09:16,224 Speaker 1: just that their personalities are so different that if you're 186 00:09:16,264 --> 00:09:19,424 Speaker 1: looking for a fight, it looks like they're having an argument. 187 00:09:19,784 --> 00:09:22,744 Speaker 2: And a Kendrick's definitely like that with a lot of people. 188 00:09:22,744 --> 00:09:24,864 Speaker 2: It's very that with all her co stars, that dry, 189 00:09:24,944 --> 00:09:28,424 Speaker 2: sarcastic sense of humor, and I can only think, like, 190 00:09:28,464 --> 00:09:30,624 Speaker 2: she wouldn't even have that sense of humor with but 191 00:09:30,784 --> 00:09:32,384 Speaker 2: like Lively, if they weren't friends. 192 00:09:32,584 --> 00:09:35,024 Speaker 1: That's what I've always thought that I don't think there's 193 00:09:35,024 --> 00:09:37,264 Speaker 1: a huge few there one. I don't think if they 194 00:09:37,304 --> 00:09:41,104 Speaker 1: had such a terrible time on set as everyone's saying 195 00:09:41,104 --> 00:09:42,984 Speaker 1: they did, they would come back for a second movie. 196 00:09:43,024 --> 00:09:45,304 Speaker 1: Because yes, a lot of actors do things for money, 197 00:09:45,304 --> 00:09:47,264 Speaker 1: and I would understand coming back to do like a 198 00:09:47,304 --> 00:09:50,464 Speaker 1: Marvel blockbuster and getting fifty million dollars or something like 199 00:09:50,504 --> 00:09:51,944 Speaker 1: that that you just say, I will put up with 200 00:09:51,944 --> 00:09:54,384 Speaker 1: that person, even though I hate them. But these two, 201 00:09:54,544 --> 00:09:57,384 Speaker 1: like they both have like very lucrative careers or at 202 00:09:57,384 --> 00:09:59,624 Speaker 1: the stage now where they can even Blake Lively with 203 00:09:59,664 --> 00:10:02,344 Speaker 1: like everything that's happened. There's few actors in Hollywood who 204 00:10:02,344 --> 00:10:03,864 Speaker 1: can pick things that they want to do and they 205 00:10:03,904 --> 00:10:05,704 Speaker 1: have choices and have to just keep taking the next 206 00:10:05,744 --> 00:10:08,424 Speaker 1: project that comes along. And both of them have that 207 00:10:08,504 --> 00:10:10,064 Speaker 1: kind of power now they can be a bit more 208 00:10:10,104 --> 00:10:12,704 Speaker 1: cheue with their projects. So I don't think they would 209 00:10:12,704 --> 00:10:15,224 Speaker 1: say yes to going and filming in Italy for months 210 00:10:15,624 --> 00:10:17,344 Speaker 1: and it's such a two handle, Like the two of 211 00:10:17,384 --> 00:10:19,744 Speaker 1: them have so many scenes together, you know, they can't 212 00:10:19,864 --> 00:10:22,624 Speaker 1: separate themselves because their characters are together all the time. 213 00:10:22,824 --> 00:10:24,464 Speaker 1: I don't think either of them would sign up for 214 00:10:24,504 --> 00:10:26,704 Speaker 1: that if they hated each other as much as people think. 215 00:10:26,824 --> 00:10:29,184 Speaker 2: So people just kind of like grasping out totilas now 216 00:10:29,264 --> 00:10:32,304 Speaker 2: just because it's Blake Lively doing a new movie. 217 00:10:32,624 --> 00:10:34,504 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think all just kind of coming back to 218 00:10:34,544 --> 00:10:36,544 Speaker 1: this premiere is that there were just so many eyes 219 00:10:36,584 --> 00:10:38,824 Speaker 1: on them for that reason, because everyone wanted to see 220 00:10:38,984 --> 00:10:41,784 Speaker 1: how blake Lively would react. And it's really interesting, Like 221 00:10:41,864 --> 00:10:43,304 Speaker 1: Lee you were saying before, like a few of the 222 00:10:43,424 --> 00:10:45,784 Speaker 1: snippets have just been cut up and put out for 223 00:10:45,824 --> 00:10:47,664 Speaker 1: people to watch, but if you watch like the full 224 00:10:47,704 --> 00:10:51,064 Speaker 1: live stream or the full ray carpet interviews, blake Lively 225 00:10:51,224 --> 00:10:53,184 Speaker 1: is like as she would be, is like fighting for 226 00:10:53,224 --> 00:10:56,184 Speaker 1: her life because she's so aware of everything that she 227 00:10:56,304 --> 00:10:57,904 Speaker 1: has to say and how it's going to be cut 228 00:10:57,944 --> 00:11:01,144 Speaker 1: up and used against her. And she's being so gushy 229 00:11:01,184 --> 00:11:03,744 Speaker 1: and so lovely, which I get if everyone thought I 230 00:11:03,784 --> 00:11:06,784 Speaker 1: was a terrible bully. And all those videos previously of 231 00:11:06,824 --> 00:11:09,544 Speaker 1: her like saying things to fans that were cut up 232 00:11:09,584 --> 00:11:10,944 Speaker 1: of like you know, like when someone gave her a 233 00:11:10,984 --> 00:11:13,104 Speaker 1: friendship bracelet and she's like, oh, it doesn't go with 234 00:11:13,104 --> 00:11:14,464 Speaker 1: my outfit, so I won't put it on now, but 235 00:11:14,504 --> 00:11:17,144 Speaker 1: I'll wear it later. If that's someone you like, you're like, 236 00:11:17,144 --> 00:11:19,024 Speaker 1: oh it's so sweet. She was like, yeah, I'll take it. 237 00:11:19,064 --> 00:11:22,264 Speaker 1: But because people hated her, that really got blown up, 238 00:11:22,384 --> 00:11:24,744 Speaker 1: was like she told that woman she hated her bracelet. 239 00:11:25,064 --> 00:11:28,384 Speaker 1: So when you watch Blake Lively go down that interview line, 240 00:11:28,464 --> 00:11:31,384 Speaker 1: she's being so gushy and so lovely, and she's smiling 241 00:11:31,464 --> 00:11:34,944 Speaker 1: like almost manically, and like being really intense because I 242 00:11:34,984 --> 00:11:38,384 Speaker 1: think she's so aware that if she does anything out 243 00:11:38,384 --> 00:11:40,064 Speaker 1: of line, it's going to be blown up. And then 244 00:11:40,104 --> 00:11:43,024 Speaker 1: you've got Anna walking along being her kind of normal self. 245 00:11:43,304 --> 00:11:45,264 Speaker 1: And this is why I think like at this point 246 00:11:45,304 --> 00:11:47,104 Speaker 1: in time, Anna Kendrick has a bit of a Blake 247 00:11:47,144 --> 00:11:50,864 Speaker 1: Lively problem in two senses. One is that their whole 248 00:11:50,904 --> 00:11:55,584 Speaker 1: movie is now tainted with this story of it ends 249 00:11:55,584 --> 00:11:57,824 Speaker 1: with us and the court case and the accusations and 250 00:11:57,864 --> 00:11:59,984 Speaker 1: all that sort of stuff, So they can't do any 251 00:12:00,024 --> 00:12:02,424 Speaker 1: press and events without it, and and I can't do 252 00:12:02,464 --> 00:12:05,664 Speaker 1: any interviews without this subject being brought up. But the 253 00:12:05,744 --> 00:12:08,984 Speaker 1: other thing is that their personalities are so different that 254 00:12:09,144 --> 00:12:11,424 Speaker 1: if you're looking for a few, it's very easy to 255 00:12:11,464 --> 00:12:14,384 Speaker 1: see one because they contrast against each other so much. 256 00:12:15,944 --> 00:12:20,184 Speaker 2: I would also think with Anna Kendrick with everything going on, 257 00:12:20,544 --> 00:12:22,264 Speaker 2: because I feel like if I was in her situation, 258 00:12:22,624 --> 00:12:25,504 Speaker 2: I would try to not make it so obvious because 259 00:12:25,504 --> 00:12:28,784 Speaker 2: I would know that people would construe what I've been saying. 260 00:12:28,624 --> 00:12:30,624 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I do think they all went in 261 00:12:30,664 --> 00:12:32,744 Speaker 1: with quite a big game plan, and like one of 262 00:12:32,784 --> 00:12:34,904 Speaker 1: that is Blake to be like very bubbly and lovely. 263 00:12:34,944 --> 00:12:36,944 Speaker 1: But I think Anna had like some jokes ready, like 264 00:12:36,984 --> 00:12:40,304 Speaker 1: when the Variety reporter asked her, how does this impact you? 265 00:12:40,344 --> 00:12:42,184 Speaker 1: And she was like, wait, what do you mean? What happened? 266 00:12:42,184 --> 00:12:43,424 Speaker 1: Because it's like kind of a funny way. 267 00:12:43,424 --> 00:12:45,944 Speaker 2: It also the exact same joke that Ryan Reynolds said 268 00:12:45,944 --> 00:12:47,744 Speaker 2: on this and now, yeah, exactly. 269 00:12:48,184 --> 00:12:50,984 Speaker 1: How's it going great? Why what have you heard? No, 270 00:12:51,024 --> 00:12:52,744 Speaker 1: they're all peddling that out because it's kind of a 271 00:12:52,744 --> 00:12:55,304 Speaker 1: safe way. Also on that Variety interview, so it was 272 00:12:55,304 --> 00:12:57,544 Speaker 1: a variety reporter who is on the red carpet and 273 00:12:57,584 --> 00:13:00,424 Speaker 1: who asked how that it ends with us lawsuit is 274 00:13:00,504 --> 00:13:03,384 Speaker 1: impacting the movie? And I do feel for her because 275 00:13:03,384 --> 00:13:05,384 Speaker 1: it's one of those moments where like if you listen 276 00:13:05,384 --> 00:13:07,784 Speaker 1: to her ask the question, she kind of fumbles a 277 00:13:07,784 --> 00:13:09,304 Speaker 1: little bit and her voice is shaking, and then she 278 00:13:09,304 --> 00:13:12,144 Speaker 1: says it really quickly. She's scared. I would equally be 279 00:13:12,184 --> 00:13:15,544 Speaker 1: sc I've been in that situation so many times when 280 00:13:15,584 --> 00:13:18,104 Speaker 1: you're having an interview with someone and there's this elephant 281 00:13:18,104 --> 00:13:20,024 Speaker 1: in the room. You like, I have to ask about it, 282 00:13:20,104 --> 00:13:21,304 Speaker 1: but I'm a bit nervous, And then. 283 00:13:21,184 --> 00:13:23,224 Speaker 2: You do some publication would be expecting it. 284 00:13:23,224 --> 00:13:25,984 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and then you kind of almost overcompensate by 285 00:13:26,144 --> 00:13:28,184 Speaker 1: saying too much and saying it too quickly. I've done 286 00:13:28,224 --> 00:13:31,424 Speaker 1: that so many times before. And the Variety reporter is 287 00:13:31,424 --> 00:13:33,344 Speaker 1: getting like a bit slammed of people saying, like, why 288 00:13:33,384 --> 00:13:35,384 Speaker 1: would you ask that? And leave her alone and something 289 00:13:35,424 --> 00:13:37,704 Speaker 1: to do with her. But I feel for both the 290 00:13:37,744 --> 00:13:41,344 Speaker 1: Variety reporter and Anna Kendrick in that moment because it 291 00:13:41,504 --> 00:13:45,024 Speaker 1: just it's like a situation that just has to happen, essentially, 292 00:13:45,104 --> 00:13:48,704 Speaker 1: because you cannot be interviewing someone about a movie when 293 00:13:48,704 --> 00:13:52,984 Speaker 1: this huge legal case that's been so public is attached 294 00:13:53,024 --> 00:13:55,064 Speaker 1: to the person you're working with. And I think the 295 00:13:55,104 --> 00:13:57,424 Speaker 1: way she asked it, do you think this will impact 296 00:13:57,464 --> 00:13:59,384 Speaker 1: the movie? Is like quite a fair question. But then 297 00:13:59,424 --> 00:14:02,144 Speaker 1: I also feel for Anna Kendrake because she's signed on 298 00:14:02,184 --> 00:14:04,104 Speaker 1: to do press for this movie, like it's part of 299 00:14:04,144 --> 00:14:06,024 Speaker 1: the job that when you sign up for it, and 300 00:14:06,024 --> 00:14:09,824 Speaker 1: now she's contractually obligated to do all these interviews about 301 00:14:09,824 --> 00:14:12,064 Speaker 1: a legal case that she's not involved in and have 302 00:14:12,144 --> 00:14:14,344 Speaker 1: to kind of like find these funny answers, so they're 303 00:14:14,344 --> 00:14:16,824 Speaker 1: both in a bit of a shit situation. But also, 304 00:14:16,904 --> 00:14:18,104 Speaker 1: how could you not bring that up? 305 00:14:18,384 --> 00:14:21,224 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no way everyone would have been expecting it. 306 00:14:21,504 --> 00:14:25,544 Speaker 2: I think it's the amplification of that video. Like I'm 307 00:14:25,544 --> 00:14:29,104 Speaker 2: not sure if it needed to be cut from the 308 00:14:29,144 --> 00:14:31,224 Speaker 2: rest of the interview and just like led with that 309 00:14:31,624 --> 00:14:33,944 Speaker 2: to be like, I guess for the social amplification because 310 00:14:33,944 --> 00:14:36,904 Speaker 2: we know we work in like the media and in industries, 311 00:14:36,944 --> 00:14:38,864 Speaker 2: but you can tell, like you could say something so 312 00:14:38,864 --> 00:14:42,784 Speaker 2: so controversial on a podcast, for example, and if that 313 00:14:42,864 --> 00:14:45,264 Speaker 2: part doesn't get put on social media, a lot of 314 00:14:45,264 --> 00:14:47,464 Speaker 2: people would dis miss it. It's the stuff that gets 315 00:14:47,544 --> 00:14:50,424 Speaker 2: kind of amplified on social media that everyone just kind 316 00:14:50,424 --> 00:14:51,184 Speaker 2: of hones in on. 317 00:14:51,504 --> 00:14:54,264 Speaker 1: Oh. Absolutely, As you said, they've been walking down the 318 00:14:54,304 --> 00:14:56,904 Speaker 1: red carpet and they've been asked about working with each 319 00:14:56,944 --> 00:14:59,744 Speaker 1: other so many times, and they both give a lot 320 00:14:59,744 --> 00:15:03,304 Speaker 1: of different answers, but the one that's being cut up 321 00:15:03,304 --> 00:15:06,264 Speaker 1: and circulated is Blake Lively gushing about Anna Kendrick and 322 00:15:06,304 --> 00:15:09,344 Speaker 1: then Anna Kendrick going, oh, you know, as she works away. 323 00:15:09,384 --> 00:15:11,784 Speaker 1: But also I feel like that's her personality. That's what 324 00:15:11,824 --> 00:15:14,144 Speaker 1: I'm saying their personalities are at odds, and a lot 325 00:15:14,184 --> 00:15:16,424 Speaker 1: of the time that would work really well for this 326 00:15:16,544 --> 00:15:19,384 Speaker 1: kind of like one to be very dry and self deprecating, 327 00:15:19,424 --> 00:15:21,624 Speaker 1: one to be very bubbly like that would work really well. 328 00:15:21,664 --> 00:15:24,824 Speaker 1: But just in this instance, it's making it look like 329 00:15:24,904 --> 00:15:28,264 Speaker 1: they have drama alongside each other, which a lot of 330 00:15:28,304 --> 00:15:32,944 Speaker 1: people also think is a part of the movie's marketing, 331 00:15:33,224 --> 00:15:35,504 Speaker 1: But I just don't think it is. Like Blake Lively 332 00:15:35,544 --> 00:15:37,504 Speaker 1: is in a massive lawsuit trying to prove that she's 333 00:15:37,544 --> 00:15:39,984 Speaker 1: not a terrible person, So why would you then base 334 00:15:40,024 --> 00:15:43,224 Speaker 1: a marketing campaign for another movie, Like it's not worth 335 00:15:43,224 --> 00:15:43,664 Speaker 1: the money. 336 00:15:43,784 --> 00:15:45,664 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a good, like, I guess thing to 337 00:15:45,664 --> 00:15:47,584 Speaker 2: think about. If you're them, they'll be like, yeah, let's 338 00:15:47,624 --> 00:15:49,904 Speaker 2: just go with that. It's not like they were interviewed together. 339 00:15:49,904 --> 00:15:52,064 Speaker 2: They were interviewed separately, and those videos were cut together, 340 00:15:52,184 --> 00:15:54,904 Speaker 2: so you can see the stark difference of their applies 341 00:15:55,144 --> 00:15:57,184 Speaker 2: others that never would have happened when they were together. 342 00:15:57,424 --> 00:16:00,784 Speaker 2: And also just the like insidious rumors that are coming 343 00:16:00,864 --> 00:16:02,864 Speaker 2: out of this, Like there was a tweet that has 344 00:16:02,904 --> 00:16:06,344 Speaker 2: now been deleted that went absolutely viral of someone saying 345 00:16:06,424 --> 00:16:09,064 Speaker 2: that they were there and that Anna Kendrick didn't want 346 00:16:09,064 --> 00:16:11,224 Speaker 2: to walk the carpet with Blake Lively and they were 347 00:16:11,224 --> 00:16:13,744 Speaker 2: saying it was so awkward. That's now been deleted because 348 00:16:14,144 --> 00:16:16,184 Speaker 2: the director of the film, who was also a director 349 00:16:16,224 --> 00:16:19,024 Speaker 2: of the first film, Paul fig just like reposted that 350 00:16:19,184 --> 00:16:21,944 Speaker 2: and said this is total bs. Sorry, the movie is 351 00:16:21,984 --> 00:16:24,544 Speaker 2: finished and coming out soon. Don't believe anything you read 352 00:16:24,624 --> 00:16:27,624 Speaker 2: on social media these days. And I think Paul's had enough. 353 00:16:27,664 --> 00:16:29,704 Speaker 2: He's had enough, and he's such a big fan of 354 00:16:29,744 --> 00:16:32,304 Speaker 2: both of these women, and he even like talked about 355 00:16:32,304 --> 00:16:34,464 Speaker 2: Blake Lively and how much he respects her during the 356 00:16:34,544 --> 00:16:38,384 Speaker 2: whole case before the big New York Times expos saying 357 00:16:38,424 --> 00:16:41,744 Speaker 2: that the hate against her was not just and it's 358 00:16:41,824 --> 00:16:44,304 Speaker 2: just funny that, like the director of your film has 359 00:16:44,304 --> 00:16:46,064 Speaker 2: to come out and like show your support. 360 00:16:46,264 --> 00:16:48,304 Speaker 1: Yeah, and interesting because he had to do that a 361 00:16:48,304 --> 00:16:50,504 Speaker 1: lot during the first movie too, when all of those 362 00:16:50,824 --> 00:16:52,824 Speaker 1: rumors were saying they hated each other and he had 363 00:16:52,824 --> 00:16:55,024 Speaker 1: to jump in then. Back then, I think it maybe 364 00:16:55,064 --> 00:16:58,264 Speaker 1: did work in the movies favor a slight bit, because 365 00:16:58,384 --> 00:17:00,824 Speaker 1: it was this intrigue of these two you know, Hollywood 366 00:17:00,864 --> 00:17:03,104 Speaker 1: women coming together and having this interesting press to you. 367 00:17:03,224 --> 00:17:04,704 Speaker 2: And we didn't know what the movie was going to 368 00:17:04,744 --> 00:17:07,504 Speaker 2: be about, Like the trailer didn't lead on to anything. 369 00:17:07,664 --> 00:17:09,904 Speaker 1: And Blake Lively was all in on the marketing that time. 370 00:17:09,944 --> 00:17:13,384 Speaker 1: I remember she deleted her entire Instagram account, she archived 371 00:17:13,384 --> 00:17:15,064 Speaker 1: it and then she brought it back and she was 372 00:17:15,104 --> 00:17:17,504 Speaker 1: just posting hints to the movie. And then she unfollowed 373 00:17:17,504 --> 00:17:20,064 Speaker 1: everyone and only followed people who had the same name 374 00:17:20,144 --> 00:17:22,784 Speaker 1: as her character, So she was all in. It was 375 00:17:22,824 --> 00:17:23,464 Speaker 1: fun at the time. 376 00:17:23,624 --> 00:17:26,104 Speaker 2: I know, I didn't make the car. She changed my 377 00:17:26,144 --> 00:17:26,584 Speaker 2: last name. 378 00:17:26,624 --> 00:17:28,944 Speaker 1: I know, oh, you're so close to being Emily Nelson. 379 00:17:29,184 --> 00:17:30,864 Speaker 1: And then this time around, I think that just because 380 00:17:30,864 --> 00:17:32,944 Speaker 1: of everything that's happened, they've had to be a little 381 00:17:32,944 --> 00:17:35,304 Speaker 1: bit more careful. But I think Paul in particular is 382 00:17:35,344 --> 00:17:37,984 Speaker 1: really interesting. We've had him on this podcast before. It's 383 00:17:38,184 --> 00:17:40,344 Speaker 1: one of my favorite interviews I've ever done. The last 384 00:17:40,344 --> 00:17:41,784 Speaker 1: time he was on the Spill, we were talking about 385 00:17:41,824 --> 00:17:44,064 Speaker 1: what it was like to have these big female lead movies, 386 00:17:44,424 --> 00:17:47,624 Speaker 1: and he was saying, like, you cannot imagine the eyes 387 00:17:47,664 --> 00:17:50,424 Speaker 1: that are on your project more so than any other movie. 388 00:17:50,424 --> 00:17:52,344 Speaker 1: Like he said, when he was making Bridesmaids, he was 389 00:17:52,384 --> 00:17:55,024 Speaker 1: getting calls from all these different studios saying we're just 390 00:17:55,064 --> 00:17:57,864 Speaker 1: gonna see how people react to your movie, how the 391 00:17:57,864 --> 00:18:00,344 Speaker 1: box office is, but also how people wreck to the 392 00:18:00,584 --> 00:18:02,504 Speaker 1: characters and the press too, and then we'll see for 393 00:18:02,624 --> 00:18:05,944 Speaker 1: green lights and female movies. And so it's this weird 394 00:18:05,944 --> 00:18:08,104 Speaker 1: thing of like all the pressure being on this one 395 00:18:08,184 --> 00:18:11,184 Speaker 1: movie because female led movies will still seen as like 396 00:18:11,184 --> 00:18:12,824 Speaker 1: a bit of a gamble at that time. 397 00:18:12,904 --> 00:18:15,784 Speaker 2: That's crazy. Yeah, and now I feel like now he's 398 00:18:15,824 --> 00:18:16,824 Speaker 2: just like owning the way. 399 00:18:17,344 --> 00:18:19,304 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, And so this time around he says like 400 00:18:19,344 --> 00:18:22,024 Speaker 1: I'm not having it. So what's interesting, It's like, shut up, 401 00:18:22,184 --> 00:18:24,944 Speaker 1: watch my movie. So what's interesting is once they went inside. 402 00:18:25,024 --> 00:18:26,304 Speaker 1: Do you know how when we go to these premieres 403 00:18:26,424 --> 00:18:28,104 Speaker 1: is like the big red carpet. They do all the 404 00:18:28,144 --> 00:18:31,184 Speaker 1: press outside, then the characters come inside and they stand 405 00:18:31,184 --> 00:18:33,864 Speaker 1: on the stage with microphones and they do a lot 406 00:18:33,864 --> 00:18:37,144 Speaker 1: more kind of preset questions because they have control over 407 00:18:37,184 --> 00:18:40,784 Speaker 1: what's being said. And in there a lot of photos 408 00:18:40,784 --> 00:18:43,304 Speaker 1: are circulating from that that I think look really damning 409 00:18:43,384 --> 00:18:45,424 Speaker 1: to Anna and Blake. But again it's just in that 410 00:18:45,544 --> 00:18:48,384 Speaker 1: moment because Blake's standing out really straight, and she's smiling 411 00:18:48,384 --> 00:18:50,784 Speaker 1: and she looks happy, whereas the photos they've chosen to 412 00:18:50,784 --> 00:18:53,664 Speaker 1: put of Anna next to her is Anna looking down, 413 00:18:54,184 --> 00:18:56,944 Speaker 1: kind of like looking, you know, like she's disassociating from 414 00:18:56,984 --> 00:19:00,344 Speaker 1: the whole situation. And that also looks like Blake is 415 00:19:00,384 --> 00:19:02,744 Speaker 1: having the time of her life and Anna's hating being there. 416 00:19:02,904 --> 00:19:04,904 Speaker 1: But it's just the photos. If you actually go into 417 00:19:04,944 --> 00:19:06,824 Speaker 1: Getty or anything like that and you click through the 418 00:19:06,864 --> 00:19:09,624 Speaker 1: two hundred photos that are there, there's plenty of photos 419 00:19:09,624 --> 00:19:12,464 Speaker 1: of them smiling together on stage, but they're just not 420 00:19:12,504 --> 00:19:14,944 Speaker 1: the photos being circulated souse of. 421 00:19:14,864 --> 00:19:16,664 Speaker 2: The photos that will get the click exactly. 422 00:19:16,744 --> 00:19:18,664 Speaker 1: So it does look like they hate each other. And 423 00:19:18,704 --> 00:19:20,864 Speaker 1: what's interesting too is Blake Lively saying this is her 424 00:19:20,864 --> 00:19:23,504 Speaker 1: favorite character she's ever played, which I would believe because 425 00:19:23,544 --> 00:19:27,104 Speaker 1: she hates people talking about Sorry Evander Woodson, come on, well, 426 00:19:27,184 --> 00:19:29,224 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of almost fair because she's like, 427 00:19:29,224 --> 00:19:31,784 Speaker 1: that's a caricature. It's not and people think it's her, 428 00:19:32,264 --> 00:19:33,904 Speaker 1: and she was like, no, it's like a really heightened 429 00:19:33,984 --> 00:19:35,744 Speaker 1: version of like this New York girl. It's not me. 430 00:19:35,864 --> 00:19:38,864 Speaker 1: But it's also not a great character to play. So 431 00:19:38,944 --> 00:19:41,464 Speaker 1: whereas Emily is like very layered and villainous and she 432 00:19:41,504 --> 00:19:43,304 Speaker 1: has a lot of fun with her, and then there's 433 00:19:43,304 --> 00:19:45,184 Speaker 1: a lot of clips of Anna saying nice stuff too, 434 00:19:45,264 --> 00:19:47,624 Speaker 1: but they just haven't been circulated. So the point of 435 00:19:47,624 --> 00:19:49,704 Speaker 1: this is like they could hate each other. Yeah, we 436 00:19:49,784 --> 00:19:51,624 Speaker 1: just don't know they could hate each other. What I'm 437 00:19:51,664 --> 00:19:55,904 Speaker 1: saying is the information that has been presented is very 438 00:19:55,944 --> 00:19:57,664 Speaker 1: strongly pushing in a different way. 439 00:19:57,984 --> 00:19:58,544 Speaker 2: Yeah. 440 00:19:58,584 --> 00:20:00,744 Speaker 1: And also I'm interested to see how the rest of 441 00:20:00,784 --> 00:20:03,144 Speaker 1: their press tour goes before this movie comes out in 442 00:20:03,184 --> 00:20:04,464 Speaker 1: May or So I'm freaking excited for this. 443 00:20:04,624 --> 00:20:06,304 Speaker 2: I'm excited. I hope we get tickets. 444 00:20:06,424 --> 00:20:08,904 Speaker 1: Yeah, Prime Video if you're listening, well it's coming to Prime, 445 00:20:08,944 --> 00:20:10,024 Speaker 1: so we can watch it at home. Maybe we have 446 00:20:10,064 --> 00:20:12,024 Speaker 1: a little movie night. But it's, like Ex said, in Italy, 447 00:20:12,464 --> 00:20:15,264 Speaker 1: it's these two villainous women coming back together. I'm just 448 00:20:15,304 --> 00:20:17,944 Speaker 1: I'm so freaking getting a white lotus vibes. Yeah, yeah, 449 00:20:17,984 --> 00:20:19,504 Speaker 1: I feel like that. Maybe that's why they decided to 450 00:20:19,544 --> 00:20:21,504 Speaker 1: film in Italy. But yeah, I just think I'd be 451 00:20:21,544 --> 00:20:23,504 Speaker 1: interested to see the rest of their press tour because 452 00:20:23,624 --> 00:20:27,304 Speaker 1: of their personality mismatch, of how much that's gonna look 453 00:20:27,864 --> 00:20:30,424 Speaker 1: like they hate each other and how much that's gonna 454 00:20:30,464 --> 00:20:34,664 Speaker 1: kind of impact Blake Lively's like online persona leading into 455 00:20:34,664 --> 00:20:35,344 Speaker 1: her court case. 456 00:20:36,224 --> 00:20:38,544 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today. 457 00:20:38,704 --> 00:20:41,384 Speaker 2: If you love listening to these episodes, we recently did 458 00:20:41,424 --> 00:20:44,784 Speaker 2: a broodly honest review on with Love Meghan. 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