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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Taylor Strano. This is Mumma MEA's twice daily

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Speaker 2: news podcast, The Quickie. With just over a month till

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Speaker 2: we head to the polls, both Anthony Albaninsi and Peter

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Speaker 2: suggest one of them might be running out of time. Plus,

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Speaker 2: it's the college murder case that's grouped America and left

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Speaker 2: a community shattered. Let's unpack the latest developments in the

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Speaker 2: Idaho sharehouse killings before we get there. Here is Clare

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Speaker 2: Murphy with the latest from the QUICKI newsroom for Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: April one.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Taylor. Survivors are still being pulled from the rubble

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Speaker 1: left behind by Friday seven point seven magnitude earthquake in Myanmar.

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Speaker 1: The number of lives lost to the natural disaster has

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Speaker 1: After four people were pulled free from the crumbled remains

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Speaker 1: The quake has piled more misery onto the people of Myanmar,

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Speaker 1: The woman who accused the late Jeffrey Epstein and Prince

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Speaker 1: just four days to live. Virginia Giffrey shared a photo

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Speaker 1: She says she's now in renal failure and has been

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Speaker 1: one last time. She then thanked her supporters for being

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Speaker 1: wonderful people. Giffrey claims she was trafficked by Epstein and

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Speaker 1: his partner Glene Maxwell when she was just a teenager,

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Speaker 1: long awaited appeal over the lawyer X scandal. The fifty

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Speaker 1: lifted in twenty eighteen. From today, health warnings won't just

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Speaker 1: Cancer Council Victorious Sarah Dirkins saying the updated imagery was

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Speaker 1: The new warnings will include messaging that smoking can contribute

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Speaker 1: impact children's lung capacity when inhaling secondhand smoke. Some of

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Speaker 1: the messages on the actual cigarettes will say smoking causes

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Speaker 1: sixteen cancers, damages your lungs and damages DNA. King Charles

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Speaker 2: If you haven't been paying attention to the federal election

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Speaker 2: We're just four weeks out from the election day on

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Speaker 2: major polls show Labor maintaining its lead over the coalition,

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Speaker 2: but it's the generational divide that's getting all the attention.

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Speaker 2: Young voters, particularly those under forty, are emerging as a

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Speaker 2: Something else that's been really interesting in this election cycle

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Speaker 3: They're saying, now, come on, you satisfy me with your policies.

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Speaker 2: So if we're seeing less died in the will labor

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Speaker 2: big topics this cycle will be cost of living. It's

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Speaker 3: Both for going at it hard. The cost of living

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Speaker 3: It's an umbrella for Anthony ALBINIZI just announcing his policy

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Speaker 3: to find big supermarkets millions of dollars for price gouging.

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Speaker 3: It's also a coverall for Peter Dutton this morning and

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Speaker 3: The argument that Peter Dutton raises there is well, rising

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Speaker 2: So why is Albot taking such a hard line on it.

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Speaker 2: Peter Dutton has been peddling the coalition's energy policy and

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Speaker 2: but his gas policy has been facing questions how significant

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Speaker 2: Tim four weeks is a very long time in politics.

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Speaker 2: What are some of the key moments we should be

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Speaker 3: I mean very often the key moments are unusual. They're

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Speaker 3: the things you can't see. They capture the imagination. Very interesting,

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Speaker 3: I think, to see when they hold the fates and

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Speaker 3: how they go. We're different to America, but remember how

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Speaker 3: the Australian context, maybe not, but there's still a potential

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Speaker 2: It's the story that sent shock waves through America's college system.

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Speaker 2: The brutal murders of four University of Idaho students in

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Speaker 2: in the case against Frank Coburger, the former criminology student

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Speaker 2: charged with the murders. Mumama's newswriter Eilish Delaney has been

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Speaker 2: following the case. Elish, take us back to the beginning.

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Speaker 2: What happened in Moscow, Idaho.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's first shocking one, this one, Taylor. There

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Speaker 4: was four university students from the University of Idaho and

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Speaker 4: they were all killed in the off campus home of

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Speaker 4: November thirteen, back in twenty twenty two. And it started

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Speaker 4: they all got home just before two am, and sometime

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Speaker 4: their murder weapon still hasn't been found.

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Speaker 2: This particular case has captured America's attention. Is it the

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Speaker 2: fact that it was twenty twenty two and we're only

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Speaker 2: now sort of really getting more updates what's my particularly shocking, Well.

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Speaker 4: I think personally, it's the fact that they were so young,

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Speaker 4: two or twenty one. And the autopsy showed that the

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Speaker 4: it was the city's first murder in seven years, which

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Speaker 4: that it was a targeted attack, but there was no

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Speaker 2: Now, talk us through the investigation. How did they eventually

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Speaker 2: identify Brian Coberger as a suspect.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so the mystery box thousands of hip hops to

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Speaker 4: the FBI. Obviously, like you said, it got a lot

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Speaker 4: like seven weeks before they made an arrest. That the

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Speaker 2: So we know that this has been now an ongoing

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Speaker 2: Why are we seeing in the headlines this week?

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Speaker 4: So there's been a few updates in recent weeks. The

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Speaker 4: taken six hours after the students were killed. They want

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Speaker 2: Another layer that's added to this story is the fact

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Speaker 2: that Coburger was a criminology student as the murders were

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Speaker 4: Prosecutors actually want a college essay of his to be

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Speaker 4: allowed as evidence in the trial. There's something that he

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Speaker 4: list the steps for a crime scene investigator and what

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Speaker 4: kind of a link to his criminology degree. And then

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Speaker 4: his defensing that he actually has autism and that his

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Speaker 2: So where are we at now then, ailst Is it

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Speaker 2: just a matter of waiting as the proceedings continue.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So the jury selection is set to begin in July,

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