WEBVTT - Did Someone Get Engaged? Oh Look, Mia Just Barged In 0:00:10.622 --> 0:00:13.342 You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. 0:00:13.822 --> 0:00:17.182 Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and warders 0:00:17.222 --> 0:00:22.381 that this podcast is recorded on Hello and welcome to 0:00:22.422 --> 0:00:25.182 MoMA Mia. Out loud what women are actually talking about 0:00:25.222 --> 0:00:27.382 on Wednesday, the twenty seventh of August. 0:00:27.462 --> 0:00:30.382 It's a hard day to put the show together, isn't it, Hallywayen. 0:00:30.062 --> 0:00:32.302 Right, it really is. I am Holly Wayne Right. 0:00:32.262 --> 0:00:35.501 I'm Jesse Stevens, and I'm Amelia Lester and friends. 0:00:35.902 --> 0:00:40.262 Today little girls everywhere got a reminder on blast that 0:00:40.382 --> 0:00:43.262 no matter what greatness you achieve in your life, nothing 0:00:43.382 --> 0:00:46.222 will be more celebrated than the moment a man choose. 0:00:46.302 --> 0:00:52.462 Oh Holly, come on, is that notthing? Sorry, let me buffer, 0:00:52.542 --> 0:00:53.942 let me try that again, Okay. 0:00:53.862 --> 0:00:54.582 Squire. 0:00:56.742 --> 0:01:01.182 Taylor Swift and Travis Kelc a engaged twenty five exclamation marks. 0:01:01.262 --> 0:01:01.622 Woot. 0:01:01.862 --> 0:01:04.462 Of course, we've been up since dawn curating all the 0:01:04.462 --> 0:01:08.261 hot takes for you. If only Infamous Swifty Mia Friedman 0:01:08.382 --> 0:01:10.182 was here for this historic man I'd. 0:01:09.941 --> 0:01:14.142 See only we unpacked the shocking news from Canberra about 0:01:14.182 --> 0:01:16.982 state sanctioned terrorism in Australia. 0:01:16.382 --> 0:01:18.862 And Northwest went out for a lovely dinner with her 0:01:18.862 --> 0:01:20.422 mother Kim Kardashian in Rome. 0:01:20.742 --> 0:01:22.021 But all anyone can talk. 0:01:21.862 --> 0:01:24.542 About is what North chose to wear and how it's 0:01:24.542 --> 0:01:25.622 all Kim's fault. 0:01:26.782 --> 0:01:32.542 But first, people, Taylor Swift is getting married. It's a 0:01:32.582 --> 0:01:39.702 love story. And she said, yes, Etta, I thought we've 0:01:39.742 --> 0:01:42.462 got rid of you. 0:01:42.822 --> 0:01:46.142 That might be Taylor's sweating dress. 0:01:46.182 --> 0:01:47.022 What you're wearing. 0:01:46.982 --> 0:01:50.342 Because this to her concert. And I actually thought that 0:01:50.422 --> 0:01:53.502 this was like an NFL jersey. Apparently it's baseball. 0:01:54.542 --> 0:01:57.181 I think it's ice hockey. Yeah, some kind of hockey 0:01:57.262 --> 0:01:57.822 is thing. 0:01:58.022 --> 0:02:03.862 Ladies and the very few gentlemen want me. Hello, she 0:02:04.022 --> 0:02:06.542 was gonna sit this in. You didn't even know. 0:02:06.782 --> 0:02:10.022 Happy Taylor Engagement Day for those who celebrate you and 0:02:10.061 --> 0:02:10.782 me pretty. 0:02:10.542 --> 0:02:13.862 Much how she feel, not really me? This morning at 0:02:13.942 --> 0:02:19.502 three a high school. This morning, at three am Eastern 0:02:19.582 --> 0:02:23.341 Standard time, an Instagram post appeared on the accounts of 0:02:23.382 --> 0:02:27.061 both Taylor Swift and someone called Killer Trav. The imagery 0:02:27.181 --> 0:02:30.422 is peak flower arch and amid the blooms stands Taylor 0:02:30.462 --> 0:02:35.182 Swift with American Football's titust end Travis Kelcey kneeling before 0:02:35.222 --> 0:02:39.462 her as he should, with four other gorgeously smiling kissy 0:02:39.462 --> 0:02:42.822 pictures to follow. And the caption that simply reads, your 0:02:42.902 --> 0:02:47.422 English teacher and your gym teacher are getting married Stick 0:02:47.462 --> 0:02:50.221 of dynamite and the world imploded. 0:02:50.982 --> 0:02:52.862 Go Maya, how do you feel today? 0:02:53.062 --> 0:02:54.022 I feel good. I knew. 0:02:54.022 --> 0:02:55.902 I'm not surprised. I knew this was happening. 0:02:55.982 --> 0:02:59.181 I think it is a good thing. I always thought 0:02:59.222 --> 0:03:02.342 they were endgame. Really yeah, yeah, I think they are 0:03:02.422 --> 0:03:04.901 so perfectly suited. And if there was ever any doubt 0:03:05.062 --> 0:03:07.782 I think it was very much locked and loaded when 0:03:07.862 --> 0:03:10.822 they rolled out formally rolled out there. I don't want 0:03:10.822 --> 0:03:13.942 to say brand because that sounds cynical. They rolled out 0:03:14.422 --> 0:03:16.781 themselves as a couple on the podcast a couple of 0:03:16.862 --> 0:03:19.661 weeks ago, on the Kelsey Brothers podcast, and I looked 0:03:19.662 --> 0:03:22.222 at it and I just thought, oh, they are so perfect. 0:03:22.502 --> 0:03:25.022 And what did you think of the actual announcement? She 0:03:25.222 --> 0:03:27.222 appears to be in a forest. I mean it is 0:03:27.262 --> 0:03:30.502 in August, which is allegedly a song that hard. 0:03:30.622 --> 0:03:32.462 Does anyone know what the stick of dynamite? 0:03:32.462 --> 0:03:37.622 I know what it means? Oh good, TNT Travis. 0:03:37.342 --> 0:03:41.222 And Taylor, Yeah yeah, yeah, Travis and Taylor give us 0:03:41.222 --> 0:03:42.182 an analysis of that. 0:03:42.262 --> 0:03:43.342 They're in the flowers. 0:03:43.422 --> 0:03:46.422 Yeah, so the thing to understand I have a friend 0:03:46.662 --> 0:03:50.702 who is a swiftie who has never liked Travis for 0:03:50.822 --> 0:03:54.582 Taylor and has always thought that he was too basic, 0:03:54.702 --> 0:03:58.582 too much of a buffhead. The thing about Travis and 0:03:58.622 --> 0:04:00.502 the reason that I think he's so perfect for her 0:04:00.542 --> 0:04:03.062 on so many levels, the most important thing is how 0:04:03.142 --> 0:04:05.102 much they've got in common. I mean, as he said 0:04:05.142 --> 0:04:07.702 on the podcast, they're both stadium entertainers. Now, who else 0:04:07.702 --> 0:04:09.662 in the world can really understand what that's like. A 0:04:09.702 --> 0:04:12.022 few people, not many people we've played. 0:04:13.462 --> 0:04:15.582 I think we can call it of those places state. 0:04:15.782 --> 0:04:20.502 So they're both incredibly successful and competitive in their own fields. 0:04:20.741 --> 0:04:23.462 They're not in the same field, which is interesting, and 0:04:23.502 --> 0:04:26.021 she's obviously on a whole other level. But family is 0:04:26.061 --> 0:04:27.701 incredibly important to both of them. 0:04:29.582 --> 0:04:31.301 And they're both daggy. 0:04:31.421 --> 0:04:34.782 And I say that with the greatest respect and affection, 0:04:34.941 --> 0:04:37.662 because Taylor has always been a bit cringe and cheese 0:04:37.741 --> 0:04:40.581 and she's owned that like that's part of her charm. 0:04:40.702 --> 0:04:43.541 I always remember, after what we believed to be their 0:04:43.541 --> 0:04:45.581 first date, or the first public date, because their first 0:04:45.621 --> 0:04:47.101 date may have been before that, when she went to 0:04:47.101 --> 0:04:49.222 see him play football. He took her for a ride 0:04:49.301 --> 0:04:52.742 afterwards in his convertible. Do you remember this detail? And 0:04:52.821 --> 0:04:55.621 on the roof of the convertible it has the stars 0:04:55.702 --> 0:04:58.462 because he wanted a reminder to always reach for them. Now, 0:04:58.501 --> 0:05:01.301 if that's Taylor coded, I don't know. 0:05:01.582 --> 0:05:05.621 They're both very earnest in their way, but also very goofy, 0:05:05.741 --> 0:05:08.222 Like she's always really embraced the daggy dancing. 0:05:08.301 --> 0:05:12.501 She's not she's not Beyonce, she's not incredibly slip. 0:05:12.621 --> 0:05:15.782 She's very relatable and so is he today as everybody's 0:05:15.821 --> 0:05:17.782 losing their minds. There's lots of narrative that you know, 0:05:17.861 --> 0:05:19.421 I have a problem with, but we'll get to that later. 0:05:19.462 --> 0:05:22.141 That Like, we've seen her through all these relationships that 0:05:22.222 --> 0:05:24.021 weren't right and this is the right one. Do you 0:05:24.101 --> 0:05:26.502 think that the tortured poets, all that stuff, all those 0:05:26.541 --> 0:05:28.421 bad boys she was dating, all the ones who wanted 0:05:28.421 --> 0:05:30.662 to go under the radar, or do you think she 0:05:30.782 --> 0:05:33.342 was pretending or do you think she's evolved into this 0:05:33.541 --> 0:05:36.262 version of herself. Like I don't mean pretending for the audience, 0:05:36.301 --> 0:05:38.821 I mean you know how sometimes you bury bits of 0:05:38.861 --> 0:05:41.341 yourself in relationships. So what you're saying is they're perfect 0:05:41.381 --> 0:05:43.381 for each other because they meet each other in ambition 0:05:43.501 --> 0:05:47.742 and she yeah, and like all American dagginess. Do you 0:05:47.821 --> 0:05:49.942 think that's who she's always been? But she was trying 0:05:49.941 --> 0:05:53.021 to convince herself, Oh no, I'm like, I'm more Maddy. Heally, 0:05:53.181 --> 0:05:53.502 I'm more. 0:05:53.741 --> 0:05:54.702 That's interesting. 0:05:54.821 --> 0:05:57.981 I think that we all visit different versions of ourselves 0:05:58.022 --> 0:05:59.941 depending on I don't know if guys do this, but 0:06:00.262 --> 0:06:02.462 I know I did it depending on who I've dated. 0:06:03.061 --> 0:06:06.662 And I think that the most important thing about Travis 0:06:06.782 --> 0:06:11.942 is that for the first time since I've she hasn't 0:06:11.941 --> 0:06:15.021 had to dim her light because she hasn't had to 0:06:15.061 --> 0:06:18.821 worry about emasculating a man. And I completely understand, you know, 0:06:18.902 --> 0:06:21.422 Joe awhen which was a really formative relationship for her, 0:06:21.501 --> 0:06:24.701 And certainly thank you Joe for some amazing music, even 0:06:24.782 --> 0:06:27.061 to Jake Gillenhole, Harry Styles, all of those we got 0:06:27.142 --> 0:06:30.741 John Maye, We've got some great music Travis, because she's happy, 0:06:31.181 --> 0:06:33.421 you know, he's so high School's probably not Taylor's best 0:06:33.941 --> 0:06:37.941 but as someone who thinks she's an amazing artist, but 0:06:38.022 --> 0:06:40.902 she's also just a person, She's also just a woman who's. 0:06:40.621 --> 0:06:43.501 What's around my age. There are some concerns in the 0:06:43.541 --> 0:06:47.382 office by single girls that they're going, I don't want 0:06:47.421 --> 0:06:50.101 an album about a joint mortgage. I don't want an 0:06:50.101 --> 0:06:54.541 album about yeah, you know, little petty fights. Like hasn't 0:06:54.541 --> 0:06:58.342 her best music been during those tumultuous years. But I 0:06:58.342 --> 0:07:00.822 think that two thousand and eight Love Story came out, 0:07:00.902 --> 0:07:03.301 which was for the basic among us, that was kind 0:07:03.301 --> 0:07:06.301 of when Taylor Swift burst onto the scene. That was 0:07:06.301 --> 0:07:08.702 the year that I graduated high school. It was everywhere. 0:07:08.741 --> 0:07:10.942 It was Romeo and Juliet, and it's her coming out 0:07:11.022 --> 0:07:15.622 just basically professing her position as a hopeless romantic, which 0:07:15.702 --> 0:07:17.662 kind of wasn't the vibe then. And she was a 0:07:17.782 --> 0:07:22.422 very earnest millennial figure, right, And so to watch her now, 0:07:22.782 --> 0:07:27.182 seventeen years later, having finally it feels like there's this 0:07:27.381 --> 0:07:30.982 arc or this plot that's very I don't know, I 0:07:30.982 --> 0:07:32.662 feel like we have been rooting for her and she 0:07:32.702 --> 0:07:35.341 had these really low moments with the awful Jake Jillenhole. 0:07:35.502 --> 0:07:36.941 You're upsetting me, Jesse. 0:07:37.102 --> 0:07:39.701 What I think you're saying here, which is something that 0:07:39.742 --> 0:07:42.662 I've been feeling today. For millennials, this is the end 0:07:42.702 --> 0:07:44.502 of an arc. It's the end of an era. And 0:07:44.702 --> 0:07:46.742 I know that Holly will tell us that the happy 0:07:46.862 --> 0:07:49.062 ending is the whole rest of your life, and that 0:07:49.062 --> 0:07:51.782 that's the work in progress. But for millennials in particular, 0:07:51.862 --> 0:07:54.862 it does feel like this is the moment that we 0:07:54.941 --> 0:07:57.261 see the culmination of our youth. 0:07:57.381 --> 0:07:59.381 And we all know the feeling of watching a friend 0:07:59.381 --> 0:08:02.622 who has dated total duds and has had really difficult 0:08:02.622 --> 0:08:04.062 moments finding their person. 0:08:04.182 --> 0:08:06.822 And I will lie you upset. I just think that's 0:08:06.862 --> 0:08:07.702 a lovely thing. 0:08:08.062 --> 0:08:08.902 Why are you reigning on. 0:08:08.862 --> 0:08:10.582 Taylor's pat I don't want to rain on her parade. 0:08:10.622 --> 0:08:12.502 I'm very happy for her, But I want to say 0:08:12.582 --> 0:08:15.622 to all the single girls crying in their lattes this morning, 0:08:15.782 --> 0:08:17.781 and there are some, there are some in this office 0:08:17.821 --> 0:08:21.062 who are like, fuck another fucking happy couple, Like here 0:08:21.142 --> 0:08:24.302 we go. This isn't the ending of anything. Weddings and 0:08:24.342 --> 0:08:27.462 engagements are not the endings of anything. There's no happy ending. 0:08:27.462 --> 0:08:30.822 Almost done, now, well done, dusting her hands. Ask anyone 0:08:30.862 --> 0:08:33.142 who's been married for more than five minutes if the 0:08:33.182 --> 0:08:35.462 wedding and the marriage is the end. There is a 0:08:35.502 --> 0:08:37.342 lot to go. Taylor's got a lot of life left 0:08:37.342 --> 0:08:40.102 to live. We all know people whose marriages didn't work out, 0:08:40.342 --> 0:08:42.982 So let's not get too caught up in the happy 0:08:43.062 --> 0:08:43.462 ending of it. 0:08:43.462 --> 0:08:44.262 That's romantic. 0:08:44.662 --> 0:08:48.822 She's not up here for me, not someone who's ever 0:08:49.542 --> 0:08:51.782 been like I need a man to complete me. 0:08:52.102 --> 0:08:52.222 Like. 0:08:52.462 --> 0:08:53.622 I don't think there's anything wrong. 0:08:53.742 --> 0:08:55.622 Isn't every single one of her songs about that? 0:08:55.822 --> 0:09:00.062 No? I think that looking for great love is not 0:09:00.542 --> 0:09:03.942 retro or something to be embarrassed about or ashamed about. 0:09:04.742 --> 0:09:06.622 But it doesn't have to define you, Like she's been 0:09:06.702 --> 0:09:09.782 very clear that, Yeah, she's pretty complete. 0:09:09.662 --> 0:09:12.062 Her own, and she's got goals to kick, and she's 0:09:12.222 --> 0:09:13.902 kicked all all of the ones that you can think of, 0:09:13.942 --> 0:09:15.381 and she continues to kick more. 0:09:16.302 --> 0:09:18.302 And what she always wanted, like even from that two 0:09:18.342 --> 0:09:20.342 thousand and eight thing, which which I don't relate with 0:09:20.382 --> 0:09:22.902 but I respect, is a loud love. She wanted someone 0:09:22.942 --> 0:09:26.182 who professed their love for her and this, yeah, Travis 0:09:26.262 --> 0:09:26.782 is loud live. 0:09:27.022 --> 0:09:29.422 But me, I do have to say that her greatest 0:09:29.502 --> 0:09:32.262 music has been about looking for love. Are you worried 0:09:32.302 --> 0:09:35.062 that her music now is going to suffer with happiness? 0:09:35.382 --> 0:09:38.862 No, because what we saw with Folklore and Evermore and 0:09:38.902 --> 0:09:40.462 she said she's going to do this again. Not with 0:09:40.582 --> 0:09:42.261 Life of a Show God, because that's about behind the 0:09:42.302 --> 0:09:43.902 scenes of when she was doing the ears tool, but 0:09:44.262 --> 0:09:47.862 she said with those two albums she really enjoyed writing 0:09:47.902 --> 0:09:50.462 songs from the perspective of characters, and that was the 0:09:50.462 --> 0:09:52.582 first time she'd done that because you know, before that 0:09:52.622 --> 0:09:54.782 she'd always mind her life and often her love life. 0:09:54.782 --> 0:09:57.502 But some of her greatest songs are about being betrayed 0:09:57.542 --> 0:10:01.582 in business, you know as well and being betrayed. You know. 0:10:01.622 --> 0:10:04.342 The whole Reputation album was extraordinary, and that wasn't about love. 0:10:04.502 --> 0:10:06.222 That was about being canceled. 0:10:06.302 --> 0:10:09.262 Can I ask you Mia as a resident you know, 0:10:09.542 --> 0:10:12.262 obviously swifty but also pr expert. 0:10:12.742 --> 0:10:14.582 Oh tree Pain, Big day for tree Pain. 0:10:14.862 --> 0:10:17.142 One of the things that marks this relationship very much, 0:10:17.142 --> 0:10:18.942 as we've already touched on, is how public it is. 0:10:19.022 --> 0:10:22.142 It's very public, this relationship and this engagement announcement is 0:10:22.222 --> 0:10:24.542 very public. The way that it was said it was 0:10:24.582 --> 0:10:26.742 for the fans, like the English teacher and the gym teacher. 0:10:26.742 --> 0:10:29.742 It's gorgeous, but it's for the fans. Right, what's the 0:10:29.742 --> 0:10:33.142 wedding going to be? Like, I am obsessed now about it. 0:10:33.182 --> 0:10:35.702 This is a royal wedding. This is America's royal wedding, 0:10:35.742 --> 0:10:38.302 and I am now obsessed that maybe they should lean 0:10:38.342 --> 0:10:41.102 into that and down the streets of Kansas City. We 0:10:41.142 --> 0:10:44.222 should have an open topped rainbow carriage pulled by unicorns, 0:10:44.262 --> 0:10:45.902 and all the girls and the gays can be out 0:10:45.902 --> 0:10:48.662 applauding it. That would be brilliant. Donald Trump has made 0:10:48.702 --> 0:10:49.062 a stake. 0:10:54.902 --> 0:10:57.062 A lot of fans are saying, I'll buy tickets. They 0:10:57.102 --> 0:10:59.222 went to the Eras tour. This is their Eras tour. 0:10:59.262 --> 0:11:01.542 They'll watch well they get married at the Super Bowl. 0:11:01.782 --> 0:11:04.302 Is it possible to have a private wedding if you're 0:11:04.302 --> 0:11:05.502 the most famous woman in the world. 0:11:05.702 --> 0:11:08.462 I think so, because when Taylor Swift wants to disappear, 0:11:08.542 --> 0:11:10.462 she disappears, knows how to disappear. 0:11:10.662 --> 0:11:12.102 She's disappeared for years at a time. 0:11:12.662 --> 0:11:15.742 So I think that sharing this with the world is 0:11:15.822 --> 0:11:18.742 lovely and it's in large part of service to her fans, 0:11:18.782 --> 0:11:22.902 who were very, very invested. But she has always done 0:11:22.942 --> 0:11:25.182 things on her terms. I don't think we should be 0:11:25.342 --> 0:11:26.262 worried about her. 0:11:26.302 --> 0:11:26.782 I must say. 0:11:26.862 --> 0:11:28.342 Part of me was like, oh, we should have kept 0:11:28.342 --> 0:11:31.742 this private, But then I'm like why, like for the 0:11:31.782 --> 0:11:35.102 first time she's with someone who's not emasculated, or like, oh, 0:11:35.142 --> 0:11:37.702 we mustn't be seen together on a red carpet. We 0:11:37.782 --> 0:11:40.262 mustn't be seen in public, Like for six or seven 0:11:40.342 --> 0:11:42.422 years with Joe Alvin, she had to hide, she had 0:11:42.422 --> 0:11:43.782 to like sneak in and out. 0:11:43.622 --> 0:11:46.382 Of cars, and like, how would that make you feel? 0:11:46.782 --> 0:11:48.982 There's a theory which I think you'll really like that 0:11:49.022 --> 0:11:52.382 the announcement was a homage to tree pain because she 0:11:52.422 --> 0:11:53.862 was surrounded by train trees. 0:11:54.462 --> 0:11:54.702 See. 0:11:54.702 --> 0:11:55.222 I loved that. 0:11:55.382 --> 0:11:58.022 I think about your proposal, Jesse, because I had a 0:11:58.022 --> 0:12:00.502 friend who's like, he was wearing shorts and loafers with 0:12:00.542 --> 0:12:02.342 new socks and ooh and yuck, And. 0:12:02.822 --> 0:12:04.222 I was like, is that about that? 0:12:04.622 --> 0:12:08.022 You know what your betrothed was wearing when he proposed 0:12:08.022 --> 0:12:10.822 to you, what you were wearing. None of that matters, 0:12:11.462 --> 0:12:12.342 None of it matters. 0:12:12.422 --> 0:12:13.622 And there was something. 0:12:13.342 --> 0:12:17.182 Really daggy about it in the most over the top way, 0:12:17.182 --> 0:12:19.382 of course, which I absolutely loved, which made it feel 0:12:19.422 --> 0:12:20.022 very real to me. 0:12:20.102 --> 0:12:22.462 They're a world in which, you know how you said, 0:12:22.462 --> 0:12:24.382 Taylor does everything on her terms, and we all know 0:12:24.702 --> 0:12:27.982 that she loves to trick us, Queen of the missed direction. 0:12:29.022 --> 0:12:31.142 Is it possible that they're already married? 0:12:31.502 --> 0:12:33.222 No, but I do think this happened a couple of 0:12:33.222 --> 0:12:35.462 weeks ago like, I think that there's been time. I 0:12:35.462 --> 0:12:37.582 don't think it happened yesterday. 0:12:37.582 --> 0:12:40.062 And there were hints over the weekend, quotes from Travis 0:12:40.142 --> 0:12:41.902 Kelsey's parents that suggested they knew. 0:12:42.142 --> 0:12:44.462 Oh yeah, absolutely, I think you know, just like with 0:12:44.542 --> 0:12:48.142 your proposal, there were people around them that were clued in, 0:12:48.182 --> 0:12:49.302 and I'm sure Tree knew. 0:12:49.502 --> 0:12:49.702 Yes. 0:12:50.342 --> 0:12:53.182 Theory among just the Out Loud team is that Travis 0:12:53.262 --> 0:12:56.462 Kelcey did ask Tree pain one hundred percent Taylor's. 0:12:56.302 --> 0:12:58.702 For Scott, her father, he would have had to go 0:12:58.742 --> 0:13:00.182 and ask Tree and fair enough. 0:13:00.382 --> 0:13:03.262 One more tidbit I need to share, please, Blake Lively 0:13:03.302 --> 0:13:05.502 has not at the time of recording lying to the post. 0:13:05.702 --> 0:13:06.702 I'm very upset about that. 0:13:06.742 --> 0:13:07.662 And what does that tell us? 0:13:07.822 --> 0:13:09.782 No, I just think she's not going to be made 0:13:09.782 --> 0:13:10.102 of honor. 0:13:10.182 --> 0:13:11.302 I think it's messy. 0:13:11.622 --> 0:13:13.862 I think that we all have friendships that we've left 0:13:13.902 --> 0:13:17.822 behind for various reasons, usually not as high profile as 0:13:18.022 --> 0:13:21.782 lawsuits and things like that, but we all do. And 0:13:21.822 --> 0:13:23.662 it's kind of a bittersweet when someone that you were 0:13:23.702 --> 0:13:27.422 super close to has this life milestone, whether it's a 0:13:27.462 --> 0:13:29.542 happy one like this or a sad one like losing 0:13:29.542 --> 0:13:32.822 a parent, you sort of feel like you should reach out. 0:13:32.862 --> 0:13:34.502 Just because she didn't like it on Instagram does not 0:13:34.542 --> 0:13:37.342 mean she didn't necessarily text. But I think probably her 0:13:37.422 --> 0:13:39.422 number is blocked. I think Tree would have seen to that. 0:13:39.782 --> 0:13:41.142 Guys, there's so much to talk about. 0:13:41.142 --> 0:13:45.262 There's the ring, There's whether or not she was surprised, 0:13:45.422 --> 0:13:46.182 There's a lot. 0:13:45.982 --> 0:13:48.822 Of There was the nearly twelve months ago to the day, 0:13:48.982 --> 0:13:51.462 there was a leaked breakup plan, which was a big 0:13:51.502 --> 0:13:53.381 topic of discussion, and I just want to go back 0:13:53.382 --> 0:13:54.662 to that, revisit what we said. 0:13:54.502 --> 0:13:55.662 And there are a lot of clues. 0:13:55.742 --> 0:13:58.102 I've been diving deeper. We shocked to hear about a 0:13:58.142 --> 0:14:01.022 lot of clues. The Swifties have done their work, and 0:14:01.382 --> 0:14:03.422 there are a lot of clues in the announcement, in 0:14:03.462 --> 0:14:06.102 the photo. There's a lot still to talk about. So 0:14:06.302 --> 0:14:08.342 I'm sure you've probably got other topics to talk about. 0:14:08.342 --> 0:14:10.302 I don't know what they are, sure they'll be great. 0:14:10.702 --> 0:14:12.662 I don't really want to talk about anything else today, Okay, 0:14:12.902 --> 0:14:15.702 So I think I'll excuse myself and go do some 0:14:15.742 --> 0:14:18.262 more research and maybe see you in a subs episode. 0:14:18.302 --> 0:14:20.702 Oh my god, I that would be amazing. 0:14:20.902 --> 0:14:21.382 Sounds good. 0:14:21.462 --> 0:14:23.102 I have one more thing to say about the announcement 0:14:23.902 --> 0:14:24.542 Kill a Trav. 0:14:25.542 --> 0:14:27.702 So the first thing I thought I won't. 0:14:27.742 --> 0:14:30.262 I checked Instagram because that's how it goes, and I 0:14:30.302 --> 0:14:32.662 saw kill a Trav and I went home follow Killer Trav. 0:14:32.662 --> 0:14:35.462 Who the hell is that she can't marry kill a Trap? 0:14:35.622 --> 0:14:39.302 He has to change his Instagram handle and then maybe 0:14:39.302 --> 0:14:41.182 she will follow him, because she still doesn't follow him 0:14:41.182 --> 0:14:41.782 on Instagram. 0:14:42.222 --> 0:14:43.342 Change it to Travis Kelsey. 0:14:43.422 --> 0:14:45.782 It just screams he made it when he was twelve, 0:14:46.222 --> 0:14:49.342 didn't realize he'd become so famoure. Now he's marrying Taylor 0:14:49.342 --> 0:14:51.062 Swift and he is Killer Trav on Instagram. 0:14:51.102 --> 0:14:55.022 I'm horrified over to a different kind of Royalty. I 0:14:55.142 --> 0:14:59.342 have generously been given one whole minute. This is very 0:14:59.342 --> 0:15:01.382 troubling for me to bring you up to speed on 0:15:01.422 --> 0:15:04.822 what's been happening in princess business this week. Okay, which, 0:15:04.862 --> 0:15:07.582 to be honest, since this week one of my tailors, 0:15:07.742 --> 0:15:11.462 Megan Markle, launched an show and did a whole, big, 0:15:11.462 --> 0:15:14.862 long form interview. This is very cruel, but I understand 0:15:14.942 --> 0:15:19.102 we've been usurped by the way at Royalty. So here's 0:15:19.142 --> 0:15:21.782 my quick rundown of what's been happening in Princess business 0:15:21.822 --> 0:15:25.502 this week? Season two as ever, Sorry with love, Megan, 0:15:25.542 --> 0:15:28.662 Why isn't it called the same thing? It's bad for? 0:15:28.782 --> 0:15:31.662 Brand has dropped? And what's weird about it? Considering that 0:15:31.742 --> 0:15:33.782 season one we had to sit through lots of people 0:15:33.822 --> 0:15:36.822 we've never met before making candles, is that this season 0:15:37.022 --> 0:15:40.542 it's got cred right. Episode one has got David Chang 0:15:40.542 --> 0:15:41.942 on it. Now, you might not know who he is 0:15:42.022 --> 0:15:43.782 Jesse because you don't like food, but here is a 0:15:43.782 --> 0:15:46.662 big deal. He's the momo fuku guy. He is a 0:15:46.662 --> 0:15:47.222 big deal. 0:15:47.302 --> 0:15:47.502 Right? 0:15:47.542 --> 0:15:49.502 Is he the one who makes a lobster? I've seen 0:15:49.542 --> 0:15:50.622 a clip no no no. 0:15:51.022 --> 0:15:54.062 Episode two has Chrissy Tagan and episode eight with the lobster, 0:15:54.142 --> 0:15:57.102 that's jose Andres. He is massively famous and he's the 0:15:57.102 --> 0:16:00.542 founder of World Central Kitchen. Like he is a massive deal. 0:16:00.822 --> 0:16:02.622 So why did she keep all the good people for 0:16:02.662 --> 0:16:06.222 the second season? I am very confused about that. Same day, 0:16:06.942 --> 0:16:09.502 Meg sits down for a long form interview with Bloomberg 0:16:09.702 --> 0:16:13.022 Emily Chang in a bookstore. Presumably this is where she 0:16:13.102 --> 0:16:15.782 chose to be interviewed in a bookstore. You like books, 0:16:15.822 --> 0:16:18.702 says Emily Chang, looking around. What are you reading right now? 0:16:19.102 --> 0:16:22.462 Reading says Megan. Oh, I read to my kids. I 0:16:22.542 --> 0:16:25.982 read self help, but mostly Emily. She says this, and 0:16:25.982 --> 0:16:26.822 then my late. 0:16:26.742 --> 0:16:29.302 Night indulgence now is just a lot of duolingo? 0:16:30.142 --> 0:16:30.942 Do you ever do know? 0:16:31.262 --> 0:16:33.862 That's great when I could find the time. What are 0:16:33.862 --> 0:16:35.982 you do olingoing? I'm dual lingering French. 0:16:36.502 --> 0:16:38.222 Yeah, I committed to relearning it. 0:16:38.302 --> 0:16:41.422 And so yeah, me too, megs me too. As you know, 0:16:41.542 --> 0:16:46.942 I'm naturally we are basically the same person. Meanwhile, over 0:16:47.102 --> 0:16:49.262 in that place that Megan's not allowed to go to anymore, 0:16:49.302 --> 0:16:53.622 Princess Catherine got the world momentarily obsessed with the fact 0:16:53.742 --> 0:16:57.902 that she had dyed her hair blonde. Now, I can't 0:16:57.942 --> 0:17:00.702 really explain to you how I know, deep in my 0:17:00.902 --> 0:17:04.782 soul she did not dye her hair blonde. Princess Catherine 0:17:04.821 --> 0:17:07.822 is no more allowed to dye her hair blonde than 0:17:07.862 --> 0:17:10.182 she is to pick her undie's out of her But. 0:17:10.422 --> 0:17:12.861 I saw those pictures of her in the limousine or something, 0:17:12.902 --> 0:17:13.861 and they think that it's blonde. 0:17:13.942 --> 0:17:15.622 Is it just light the lighting? 0:17:15.861 --> 0:17:18.581 It's a pat picture right through a car window that 0:17:18.661 --> 0:17:22.502 looks like she's gone proper blonde blonde. But a strategic 0:17:22.621 --> 0:17:26.502 leak has already been placed with the Daily Mail that says, 0:17:26.542 --> 0:17:30.661 this is just yacht tad. She has spent the summer 0:17:30.702 --> 0:17:34.542 in Greece and she's slowly been lightning her brown from 0:17:34.782 --> 0:17:38.262 chestnut to more caramelli and there's just a bit of 0:17:38.262 --> 0:17:41.782 summer sun on it. And that is worth a thousand headlines? 0:17:42.022 --> 0:17:45.581 Did I do well on my princess update? I updated 0:17:45.821 --> 0:17:46.262 very well. 0:17:46.422 --> 0:17:49.941 You missed the part where I saw that Meghan got 0:17:50.061 --> 0:17:52.621 gifted by Harry the big portrait. 0:17:52.661 --> 0:17:53.181 Have you seen this? 0:17:53.422 --> 0:17:53.622 Yeah? 0:17:53.702 --> 0:17:55.861 Yeah, on her Instagram today, a big black and white 0:17:55.861 --> 0:17:58.702 portrait of her laying in a field with her dog. 0:17:58.782 --> 0:18:00.101 I think it might be her late dog. 0:18:00.861 --> 0:18:03.941 One more thing too. You missed something else We learned 0:18:04.141 --> 0:18:07.901 from the season two of this TV show that for 0:18:07.982 --> 0:18:13.222