WEBVTT - Word Of The Year 0:00:09.506 --> 0:00:12.697 If you're missing your weekly Outloud routine over the break, 0:00:12.977 --> 0:00:15.866 we wanted to let you know we're still dropping episodes 0:00:15.866 --> 0:00:20.646 for M+ subscribers. To get full access to Outloud, including 0:00:20.646 --> 0:00:25.226 the back catalog of over 50 subscriber-only episodes, head to 0:00:25.226 --> 0:00:32.187 Mamma Mia.com.au/Mplus. That's M P L U S or follow 0:00:32.187 --> 0:00:33.906 the link in the episode description. 0:00:40.896 --> 0:00:44.857 Hi Mamma Mia Outloud, it's Susannah from Melbourne. My word 0:00:44.857 --> 0:00:49.366 for 2022 is flow. If I've learned anything this year, 0:00:49.627 --> 0:00:52.656 things just do not always go to plan, so for 0:00:52.656 --> 0:00:56.436 this coming year, I am just going to go with it. Alright, 0:00:56.537 --> 0:00:59.026 so my word of the year is fun. 0:00:59.366 --> 0:01:02.026 I'm going to have so much fun in my life 0:01:02.026 --> 0:01:05.526 because if we don't have fun, then life is pretty 0:01:05.526 --> 0:01:08.967 damn boring and it's been a really tough year. 0:01:09.487 --> 0:01:13.166 Hi there Outlouders. My name's Alicia. I'm from Melbourne and 0:01:13.166 --> 0:01:16.927 I wanted to share my word for 2022, which is light. 0:01:17.206 --> 0:01:18.026 It's been, 0:01:18.927 --> 0:01:22.306 A crazy two years for everyone and I really feel 0:01:22.306 --> 0:01:24.566 that 2022 is going to be the year of expansion, 0:01:24.766 --> 0:01:28.287 of possibility, of joy, and of life. So let there 0:01:28.287 --> 0:01:29.806 be light. Happy New Year. 0:01:31.287 --> 0:01:35.937 Hello out louders and happy New Year to you. We 0:01:35.937 --> 0:01:38.376 got there, we got there. 0:01:38.836 --> 0:01:41.416 Well, actually, as we're recording this, we're not certain we 0:01:41.416 --> 0:01:44.757 got there, but we're recording this early, so we're hoping 0:01:44.757 --> 0:01:47.797 we got there, but if you're listening to this we're 0:01:47.797 --> 0:01:51.196 being too confident. I know. If you're listening to this, 0:01:51.357 --> 0:01:56.717 we got there, yay! Happy New Year everybody. I'm Holly Wainwright. 0:01:56.797 --> 0:02:01.196 I'm Mia Freedman, I'm Jessie Stevens. Today's the day regular 0:02:01.196 --> 0:02:04.157 Outlouders will know, and our new, our beloved. 0:02:04.336 --> 0:02:06.687 New Outlouders might need a little bit of guidance, but 0:02:06.687 --> 0:02:09.316 today is the day when every year, for the past, 0:02:09.376 --> 0:02:12.367 I don't know, like 5 years, I reckon at least 5, 0:02:12.736 --> 0:02:16.497 we jump on our, our microphones to share with you 0:02:16.497 --> 0:02:19.526 our words of the year and to hear some of yours, 0:02:19.817 --> 0:02:23.616 because we did away with resolutions, New Year's resolutions, ages 0:02:23.616 --> 0:02:26.416 ago at Mamma Mia Outloud because they're a bit mean, 0:02:26.497 --> 0:02:28.896 they're about stopping doing things you love, starting doing things 0:02:28.896 --> 0:02:29.836 you don't really want to do. 0:02:30.196 --> 0:02:33.086 Instead, we choose a word. I think my daughter, my 0:02:33.086 --> 0:02:35.717 11 year old daughter would call it a vibe. Yeah, 0:02:35.926 --> 0:02:40.207 it is a vibe. We were on the vibe. You 0:02:40.207 --> 0:02:43.487 pick a vibe for 2022. We choose a word that 0:02:43.487 --> 0:02:45.467 is gonna be our vibe for the year. 0:02:45.577 --> 0:02:49.717 It acts sometimes as a, a filter to uh sift 0:02:50.256 --> 0:02:54.457 decisions through. It's like a mantra, yep, sometimes you remind yourself, 0:02:54.817 --> 0:02:57.097 sometimes you get it tattooed on your wrist in Sanskrit, 0:02:57.136 --> 0:03:00.237 although that hasn't happened lately. Not yet. Mia might do 0:03:00.237 --> 0:03:00.976 it this year. 0:03:01.457 --> 0:03:05.176 So, before we reveal our words of the year for 0:03:05.176 --> 0:03:06.776 the year, which in my case is gonna be a 0:03:06.776 --> 0:03:08.607 little challenging, cos I don't know what it is yet, 0:03:08.857 --> 0:03:11.536 it's gonna come to me during the show, we're going 0:03:11.536 --> 0:03:14.256 to look back on the words that we did choose 0:03:14.256 --> 0:03:19.097 for 2021. Mia Freedman, what was your word of the 0:03:19.097 --> 0:03:22.116 year last year? My word of the year was friendship. 0:03:22.847 --> 0:03:28.327 And it's not been a great year. It was the 0:03:28.327 --> 0:03:30.336 longest period of your entire life where you weren't allowed 0:03:30.336 --> 0:03:34.457 to see your friends, so that's cool. Exactly, but at 0:03:34.457 --> 0:03:37.577 the same time it was a time when my group 0:03:37.577 --> 0:03:41.097 chats got me through a very long lockdown, but I 0:03:41.097 --> 0:03:44.806 haven't been able to see my closest friends for a 0:03:44.806 --> 0:03:48.997 really long time. One lives in Washington, one lives in Melbourne, 0:03:49.176 --> 0:03:51.817 one lives in Brisbane, actually a couple live in Melbourne. 0:03:52.207 --> 0:03:55.536 And so I felt very far from my friends this year. 0:03:55.696 --> 0:03:58.297 So I don't know if I could say that it's 0:03:58.297 --> 0:04:02.896 gone great. Did you change any of your, like, lockdown aside, 0:04:03.017 --> 0:04:05.976 which I know is a pretty big aside, did you 0:04:05.976 --> 0:04:09.967 change any of your friendship behaviors? That's a great question. 0:04:10.776 --> 0:04:13.817 I don't think I did, and I think I probably 0:04:13.817 --> 0:04:17.136 need to, because I remember feeling this time last year 0:04:17.136 --> 0:04:17.476 that 0:04:17.916 --> 0:04:22.517 Texting wasn't enough and that I needed to prioritize actually 0:04:22.517 --> 0:04:26.396 seeing my friends and so I was looking at on 0:04:26.396 --> 0:04:31.796 Instagram three sort of friends of mine, Bronwyn McCann, Zoe 0:04:31.796 --> 0:04:34.597 Foster Blake, and Justine Cullen, they're like best friends and 0:04:34.597 --> 0:04:36.706 they do this thing where they get together every so 0:04:36.706 --> 0:04:38.426 often and have a staycation and they hadn't done it 0:04:38.426 --> 0:04:40.377 for ages and they posted all these photos of them. 0:04:40.947 --> 0:04:42.866 You know, without their children, just, I don't know if 0:04:42.866 --> 0:04:44.387 they shared a room. It looked like they were sharing 0:04:44.387 --> 0:04:46.866 a bed, but I'm not sure. I know, but it 0:04:46.866 --> 0:04:48.507 just made it look like a slumber party and it 0:04:48.507 --> 0:04:51.826 just reminded me that so much of the fun of 0:04:51.826 --> 0:04:54.967 friendship is that hanging out time. It's not like sitting 0:04:54.967 --> 0:04:58.106 down at a restaurant where it's quite intense. It's just 0:04:58.106 --> 0:05:00.146 the sort of the incidental time when you're just hanging 0:05:00.146 --> 0:05:01.986 around on your phones and you just go, hey, look 0:05:01.986 --> 0:05:02.646 at this and 0:05:02.887 --> 0:05:04.947 And then Sally Hepworth told me that she went on 0:05:04.947 --> 0:05:06.727 a yoga retreat with a couple of her friends, and 0:05:06.727 --> 0:05:08.646 none of them even do yoga, but it was just 0:05:08.646 --> 0:05:12.787 a way of having that quantity time rather than these 0:05:12.787 --> 0:05:15.157 small bursts. So I thought, hm, I wanna try to 0:05:15.157 --> 0:05:17.137 do that more. Are you gonna carry a bit of 0:05:17.137 --> 0:05:19.766 friendship into your new one? Yeah, I think I should. 0:05:19.877 --> 0:05:23.276 Jessie Stevens, it's been a big year for you. 2021, 0:05:23.396 --> 0:05:26.197 big year for Jessie Stevens. Uh, you weren't the next 0:05:26.197 --> 0:05:29.236 big thing in January 2021. No. Yeah, we're sitting here 0:05:29.236 --> 0:05:32.146 in January 2022 as the next big thing, as the 0:05:32.146 --> 0:05:34.616 next big thing. Remind us of what your word was 0:05:34.616 --> 0:05:36.817 so that we can decide if it helped. 0:05:37.276 --> 0:05:40.486 It was kindness. Oh that's I don't remember it having 0:05:40.486 --> 0:05:42.956 anything to do with that, but I what I remember 0:05:42.956 --> 0:05:45.727 is all our words were very feely. They were very 0:05:45.727 --> 0:05:49.317 feely and I can't quite remember, I think I was 0:05:49.317 --> 0:05:55.037 just feeling like I wasn't doing enough to be kind. 0:05:56.347 --> 0:05:59.356 Go out of my way, exactly, it's like I feel 0:05:59.356 --> 0:06:02.437 as though often I think of something really kind to 0:06:02.437 --> 0:06:03.836 do and then I don't do it. 0:06:04.637 --> 0:06:07.197 So the thoughts are there, which is good for your brain. Exactly, 0:06:07.306 --> 0:06:11.317 which is I'm halfway there, but then I get embarrassed, 0:06:11.396 --> 0:06:16.276 I get shy or busy, and I don't do it. 0:06:16.516 --> 0:06:20.116 So I really wanted to focus more on that. In 0:06:20.116 --> 0:06:24.877 some ways, I suppose there were moments, not really. 0:06:26.137 --> 0:06:28.986 OK, um, during, see this isn't even kind of, this 0:06:28.986 --> 0:06:31.637 is gonna sound so petty, but, um, when I was 0:06:33.546 --> 0:06:36.266 when I was in lockdown, I would be sent the 0:06:36.266 --> 0:06:37.227 odd PR thing. 0:06:37.646 --> 0:06:40.116 And so one day I sent all these like snacks 0:06:40.116 --> 0:06:41.727 and stuff, and I knew that I wasn't gonna eat 0:06:41.727 --> 0:06:44.197 them all, so I chopped it all up and put 0:06:44.197 --> 0:06:46.567 them in different things and left them on the doorsteps 0:06:46.567 --> 0:06:48.697 of everyone on my level in my building cause I 0:06:48.697 --> 0:06:51.646 was like, oh, they'd like that. Anyway, I didn't think 0:06:51.646 --> 0:06:53.887 it was a big deal because it was also a 0:06:53.887 --> 0:06:55.247 bit selfish cause I was like, I don't want this 0:06:55.247 --> 0:06:56.667 going off in my house, so I'm just gonna give 0:06:56.667 --> 0:06:59.336 it to other people. The man across from me, who's 0:06:59.336 --> 0:07:02.526 maybe 70 and lives alone, came to my door. 0:07:02.822 --> 0:07:06.622 24 hours later with this incredible bottle of sparkling wine 0:07:06.622 --> 0:07:08.822 and was like, that was just the kindest thing, thank 0:07:08.822 --> 0:07:10.741 you so much, that meant so much to me a 0:07:10.741 --> 0:07:12.901 lovely thing to do because it's not like you said 0:07:12.901 --> 0:07:15.731 it's not a big thing, but it's thoughtful and thoughtful 0:07:15.731 --> 0:07:19.211 is important. Yeah, so that's been quite like there's been 0:07:19.211 --> 0:07:22.981 sort of moments that I did that one thing, yeah, 0:07:23.102 --> 0:07:25.581 but I definitely need to do more of it. I 0:07:25.581 --> 0:07:27.521 think about being kind a lot, I just. 0:07:28.287 --> 0:07:31.296 I know, I wanna volunteer or something, I don't know. Whole, 0:07:31.486 --> 0:07:34.086 my word was family and I nailed it because I 0:07:34.086 --> 0:07:37.366 think you actually jinxed all of us. My word was family. 0:07:37.407 --> 0:07:39.116 I was like, go spend more time with the family. 0:07:39.287 --> 0:07:41.646 And then I moved to a place where my family 0:07:41.646 --> 0:07:43.806 were the only people I knew and we got locked 0:07:43.806 --> 0:07:47.917 in our houses for, yes, 3 months. So, you know, 0:07:48.086 --> 0:07:51.306 that really sorted that out for me, I think, and now. 0:07:51.451 --> 0:07:54.122 Job well done. Yeah, job well done. The universe had 0:07:54.122 --> 0:07:56.072 more to do with it than me. Did you know, 0:07:56.201 --> 0:07:58.431 when you chose that word, had you already decided you 0:07:58.431 --> 0:08:00.641 were gonna move, or was it still like getting a fringe, 0:08:00.752 --> 0:08:02.681 something that you would talk about a lot, but you 0:08:02.681 --> 0:08:06.042 didn't think would happen? We were, we wanted to, but 0:08:06.042 --> 0:08:09.602 we had not made a decision and we hadn't found 0:08:09.602 --> 0:08:12.122 anywhere to move to and all those things, so no. 0:08:12.947 --> 0:08:16.706 And it's interesting because, I mean, as anyone who listens 0:08:16.706 --> 0:08:18.747 to the show knows, lockdown, well it's not any of 0:08:18.747 --> 0:08:23.146 our favorite state, let's remember. But last lockdown, the one 0:08:23.146 --> 0:08:27.247 previous lockdown in Sydney, I was quite unwell in my mind. 0:08:27.627 --> 0:08:31.026 And then this one we had more space and although 0:08:31.026 --> 0:08:33.306 it was very challenging because I thought, oh my God, 0:08:33.426 --> 0:08:35.947 we've cut as a family, we've cut ourselves off from 0:08:35.947 --> 0:08:38.366 family of other kinds, like friends and family. 0:08:38.787 --> 0:08:41.627 I think what I realized halfway through is one day 0:08:41.627 --> 0:08:43.986 I'm gonna look back at this time, that time we 0:08:43.986 --> 0:08:47.067 moved to the country and went into lockdown and only 0:08:47.067 --> 0:08:47.846 had each other. 0:08:48.137 --> 0:08:50.116 I'm gonna look back at it and think it was special, 0:08:50.697 --> 0:08:53.296 and I think I realized that halfway through, so I 0:08:53.296 --> 0:08:56.137 probably appreciated it more. Now I'm worried I've made a 0:08:56.137 --> 0:08:59.096 rod for my back because, now that I have moved 0:08:59.096 --> 0:09:01.096 and I come up to Sydney for work quite a lot, 0:09:01.216 --> 0:09:06.216 my family, they want me around. Whereas previously I had 0:09:06.216 --> 0:09:09.916 trained them all that mummy isn't here. Oh, so now 0:09:09.916 --> 0:09:12.856 there's pushback about you leaving. They were used to mummy 0:09:12.856 --> 0:09:15.976 not being around very much, and well mummy's riding now, 0:09:16.017 --> 0:09:17.257 and now it's like, 0:09:17.877 --> 0:09:20.346 What do you mean you're going away again? I need 0:09:20.346 --> 0:09:22.656 you here so that I can tell you every boring 0:09:22.656 --> 0:09:25.397 thing that happened to me the dog. The dogs who 0:09:25.397 --> 0:09:27.067 suddenly like, what do you mean you're leaving the house? 0:09:27.147 --> 0:09:29.796 Where are you going? So I think I can say 0:09:29.796 --> 0:09:31.817 I nailed it, but I can't take all the credit 0:09:31.916 --> 0:09:32.356 for it. 0:09:36.377 --> 0:09:39.577 Hi, Mamma Mia Outloud. This is Haley from Arkansas in 0:09:39.577 --> 0:09:43.116 the United States, and my word of the year is me, 0:09:43.457 --> 0:09:46.486 and it's me for two reasons. One, because of the 0:09:46.486 --> 0:09:48.817 typical mom things. I've been a stay at home mom 0:09:48.817 --> 0:09:52.577 for 4 years now, and I've completely lost my sense 0:09:52.577 --> 0:09:55.976 of self and identity outside of being a mom, and 0:09:55.976 --> 0:09:58.596 this year I want to focus on finding me again. 0:09:59.406 --> 0:10:01.966 The other thing is that I am losing my sight. 0:10:02.027 --> 0:10:05.226 I have a condition called retinitis pigmentosa, and I'm going blind, 0:10:05.236 --> 0:10:07.627 and I'm at the point where I need to use 0:10:07.627 --> 0:10:10.627 a cane and all the other things, and I've always 0:10:10.627 --> 0:10:14.257 been hyper-conscious of how that makes other people around me uncomfortable. 0:10:14.587 --> 0:10:19.166 No more. Me, me first. If it makes other people, 0:10:20.007 --> 0:10:22.676 Uncomfortable, they are the problem, not me, and I've got 0:10:22.676 --> 0:10:24.606 to keep reminding myself that, and this year I want 0:10:24.606 --> 0:10:25.387 to focus on that. 0:10:28.277 --> 0:10:31.077 We've heard a lot of the out louder's words. We're 0:10:31.077 --> 0:10:33.666 coming to the point where we have to declare our words. 0:10:33.796 --> 0:10:35.517 Now we all, the way we do this out loud 0:10:35.517 --> 0:10:37.596 is so you know, is none of us know what 0:10:37.596 --> 0:10:40.226 the other word is, not least because we hadn't decided 0:10:40.226 --> 0:10:41.837 before we walked into the room, so if we did 0:10:41.837 --> 0:10:43.517 try to tell each other, it would have been an 0:10:43.517 --> 0:10:44.096 interesting conversation. 0:10:46.416 --> 0:10:50.277 Holly still doesn't know. She's gonna develop her word. I 0:10:50.277 --> 0:10:52.777 love how we pitched this whole thing as this very 0:10:52.777 --> 0:10:58.416 thought process with so much care. It's, I just can't decide. Alright, 0:10:58.616 --> 0:11:02.616 Jessie Stevens, go first. What is your word for 2022, go. 0:11:03.166 --> 0:11:06.577 It's an ugly one, but it's a necessary one for Jessie. 0:11:06.846 --> 0:11:11.676 It's discipline. Now I've chosen discipline. It's not unlike my 0:11:11.676 --> 0:11:14.806 2020 word, which was productivity, which I knew that I 0:11:14.806 --> 0:11:17.806 needed to get better at. This is different. And in 0:11:17.806 --> 0:11:20.767 fact this is related to something that Mia was talking 0:11:20.767 --> 0:11:24.726 about recently, which was your theory about how in the 0:11:24.726 --> 0:11:28.687 wake of the pandemic, we all have a desire for 0:11:28.687 --> 0:11:32.327 tighter control over what we can control than ever before. 0:11:33.887 --> 0:11:36.306 My thing pointless, exactly. 0:11:36.916 --> 0:11:39.457 And my thing with discipline is that I've shifted at 0:11:39.457 --> 0:11:42.137 work to doing 3 days, so that on the other 0:11:42.137 --> 0:11:45.257 2 days, I can do projects, I'm writing a new book, 0:11:45.377 --> 0:11:47.377 I've got, you know, certain things that I need to 0:11:47.377 --> 0:11:47.897 get done. 0:11:48.567 --> 0:11:53.337 Self-discipline has never been more important, and it can be 0:11:53.337 --> 0:11:58.986 very hard, yes, very, very hard, because the thing is 0:11:58.986 --> 0:12:01.216 as well, you're like, I might just jump on see 0:12:01.216 --> 0:12:04.067 what work's doing, I might check my email, and then 0:12:04.067 --> 0:12:07.296 the day's gone, and that can be very, very dangerous. 0:12:07.337 --> 0:12:09.976 And you also go, oh well, I'm not at work 0:12:09.976 --> 0:12:11.976 on Tuesdays and Thursdays, so I'll 0:12:12.129 --> 0:12:16.309 Schedule my hair appointments and my doctor and I'm actually 0:12:16.309 --> 0:12:19.470 gonna change the way I say the word, uh, I, 0:12:19.540 --> 0:12:21.729 I talk about those days because I often say, oh, 0:12:21.749 --> 0:12:24.100 that's my day off, and it's not my day off. 0:12:26.439 --> 0:12:27.830 So I'm like that's not my day off, it might 0:12:27.830 --> 0:12:29.910 be the day that I am at home, but I 0:12:29.910 --> 0:12:33.309 need that day to be incredibly structured in order to form, 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:35.549 we've talked a lot this year about uh habit. 0:12:36.283 --> 0:12:38.803 And so even in terms of, I wanna take the 0:12:38.803 --> 0:12:40.723 thinking out of every day. I don't wanna decide whether 0:12:40.723 --> 0:12:42.673 I'm exercising or decide what I'm having for lunch. Like, 0:12:42.682 --> 0:12:46.562 I just want self-discipline that it sort of becomes easy 0:12:46.562 --> 0:12:48.283 cause the foundations are all set, so I don't feel 0:12:48.283 --> 0:12:51.923 guilty every minute. So my, my theory on this is 0:12:51.923 --> 0:12:57.082 that routine eliminates the need for discipline, cause I don't 0:12:57.082 --> 0:12:59.283 have discipline, but I am. 0:12:59.986 --> 0:13:04.986 Routine obsessed. I lean into routine heavily, so I can't, 0:13:05.067 --> 0:13:07.707 like I've been having the same thing for breakfast for many, 0:13:07.786 --> 0:13:10.137 many years, and I've been having the same thing for lunch. 0:13:10.187 --> 0:13:13.627 It started during the pandemic and I can't stop, and 0:13:13.627 --> 0:13:16.466 even on weekends, it's two pieces of peanut butter toast 0:13:16.466 --> 0:13:17.806 and a cup of tea and an apple. 0:13:18.517 --> 0:13:21.966 And I can't stop and because the more I, so 0:13:21.966 --> 0:13:26.207 I'm noticing since coming out of lockdown, I've become more 0:13:26.207 --> 0:13:29.447 and more structured with my routine and I think that 0:13:29.447 --> 0:13:33.846 is about discipline. And it's about control. It's about feeling 0:13:33.846 --> 0:13:34.846 to make a decision what should I have for breakfast, 0:13:34.937 --> 0:13:37.096 should I work, should I not, it's like no, these 0:13:37.096 --> 0:13:38.926 are and that's where it comes back to that. 0:13:39.033 --> 0:13:41.543 You know, your I don't list. I was listening to 0:13:41.543 --> 0:13:44.332 a podcast with Sally Hepworth where she was talking about 0:13:44.582 --> 0:13:48.632 how she has certain rules around like she doesn't meet 0:13:48.632 --> 0:13:52.153 people for lunch or breakfast or coffee during the week. 0:13:52.353 --> 0:13:54.872 She just doesn't. Because people can be like, Oh, Tuesday, 0:13:54.923 --> 0:13:57.153 oh yeah, let's catch up. It's like treating it a 0:13:57.153 --> 0:13:59.332 bit like a, a sort of a weekend. 0:13:59.658 --> 0:14:01.978 Tuesdays and Thursdays, it's like a little bit of a 0:14:01.978 --> 0:14:06.278 pretend weekend. And I think it's also about spending time intentionally, 0:14:06.338 --> 0:14:09.179 and that's when I talked about productivity in 2020. It 0:14:09.179 --> 0:14:13.059 was like, there is no worse feeling than realizing hours 0:14:13.059 --> 0:14:16.018 just went and you didn't spend it intentionally, which is 0:14:16.018 --> 0:14:18.379 whether you were scrolling through your phone or just doing 0:14:18.379 --> 0:14:20.119 something to pass the time. I just, 0:14:20.767 --> 0:14:23.007 Yeah, I wanna know what I'm, I'm wanna do and 0:14:23.007 --> 0:14:26.286 then just get it done. Discipline. Jessie Stevens, let it 0:14:26.286 --> 0:14:30.966 enter the record. Mia. My word is a word that 0:14:30.966 --> 0:14:33.166 you two will laugh at because you've heard me say 0:14:33.166 --> 0:14:35.447 it so much, but we'll be new to Outlouders, and 0:14:35.447 --> 0:14:36.587 my word is juice. 0:14:37.606 --> 0:14:41.846 Oh, you're obsessed. This is our new, if, if anyone 0:14:41.846 --> 0:14:44.726 who works at Mamma Mia and is in Mia's orbit. 0:14:45.637 --> 0:14:50.747 Has been hearing. So there's a saying about, and it's 0:14:50.747 --> 0:14:54.507 around productivity I think, but it's around, is the juice 0:14:54.507 --> 0:14:58.666 worth the squeeze, right? So that's basically saying the effort 0:14:58.666 --> 0:15:00.947 you put into something is what you get out of 0:15:00.947 --> 0:15:01.906 it worth it. 0:15:02.596 --> 0:15:04.837 And that's how you decide, well, am I putting my 0:15:04.837 --> 0:15:06.877 effort in the right places, or am I, is my 0:15:06.877 --> 0:15:09.356 effort the right kind of effort? And I've sort of 0:15:09.356 --> 0:15:12.716 twisted that, cause everyone that I work with, and me 0:15:12.716 --> 0:15:14.747 and everyone I know puts in huge effort. That's not 0:15:14.747 --> 0:15:18.476 a question, but it's like, are we getting enough juice? 0:15:18.637 --> 0:15:22.077 How do we get more juice from the squeeze? So 0:15:22.077 --> 0:15:22.676 it's about work. 0:15:22.777 --> 0:15:26.457 Working smarter and not harder. Correct. Correct, cause my lord, 0:15:26.726 --> 0:15:30.017 everybody's working hard enough. But I think about what I do, 0:15:30.137 --> 0:15:32.517 and if I create a piece of content, for example, 0:15:33.176 --> 0:15:35.137 how can I get more juice out of it than 0:15:35.137 --> 0:15:38.856 just that one thing that goes on Instagram? Can it 0:15:38.856 --> 0:15:41.497 be a piece of written content that also I make 0:15:41.497 --> 0:15:42.986 into a video, that also we talk 0:15:43.106 --> 0:15:46.156 About on out loud, that maybe I do in my newsletter. 0:15:46.327 --> 0:15:49.476 And I don't mean repeating things, but I mean, we're 0:15:49.476 --> 0:15:51.926 all spread, certainly if you work in the media, you 0:15:51.926 --> 0:15:55.306 spread it across so many different platforms that you think 0:15:55.476 --> 0:15:58.116 there's not really, because of the demands, you, as you've 0:15:58.116 --> 0:16:00.997 said many times, Jessie, it's table stakes, and you've said 0:16:00.997 --> 0:16:03.176 hold to. It's, you gotta be everywhere. 0:16:03.877 --> 0:16:08.247 But how can you, instead of making individual things for everyone, 0:16:08.366 --> 0:16:12.327 how can you make like a batch of cupcakes rather 0:16:12.327 --> 0:16:16.247 than like one cake for one person? Um, scaling up. 0:16:16.366 --> 0:16:18.687 So I've just mixed juice and cake, which is making 0:16:18.687 --> 0:16:21.716 me very hungry. Are there any other applications to this, 0:16:21.726 --> 0:16:24.257 do you think, like in your personal life? Oh, I 0:16:24.257 --> 0:16:27.087 don't like are there other areas where you know you 0:16:27.087 --> 0:16:30.127 could like, in the family world or in friendship world 0:16:30.127 --> 0:16:31.067 you could include, 0:16:32.317 --> 0:16:36.317 Squeeze. Every time your child tells you a story, just 0:16:36.317 --> 0:16:40.077 be like, is this juice worth the squeeze? Like, is 0:16:40.077 --> 0:16:43.397 the time that you're taking to tell me this story 0:16:43.397 --> 0:16:45.957 about your day, interesting enough. Actually, did you see, I 0:16:45.957 --> 0:16:47.957 think it was Michelle Laurie on Instagram this week said 0:16:47.957 --> 0:16:50.216 I've told my kids they've gotta lift their chat game. 0:16:52.546 --> 0:16:55.666 It's so true. You pick them up sometimes and they're 0:16:55.666 --> 0:16:58.197 like blah blah blah. You're like, is this worth my time? 0:16:59.187 --> 0:17:02.226 That's so true, I love that. You should have implement 0:17:02.226 --> 0:17:04.426 it at home and see what happens. Is this squeeze 0:17:04.426 --> 0:17:07.236 worth the juice that is not juice trickling out of it. 0:17:07.306 --> 0:17:10.866 Now I would like to put some money on the 0:17:10.866 --> 0:17:13.427 fact that in 3 months when we tell Mia her 0:17:13.427 --> 0:17:15.846 word is juice, she will have forgotten what it means. 0:17:16.346 --> 0:17:19.177 Yes, yeah, you'll think you endeavored to drink more juice 0:17:20.816 --> 0:17:24.017 really confused. Yeah, it's true. I've worked it out. I've 0:17:24.017 --> 0:17:29.557 worked it out. What is it? It's big. I want 0:17:29.627 --> 0:17:32.907 to have a big fucking year. 0:17:34.136 --> 0:17:36.805 That's interesting cos it wasn't 2020, can you remember what 0:17:36.805 --> 0:17:37.955 your word was? Less. 0:17:39.397 --> 0:17:44.716 So you've gone from we went too little. It was 0:17:44.716 --> 0:17:50.017 less family big, right? I want it to be big 0:17:50.677 --> 0:17:54.157 in lots of ways, because, so we've made this big 0:17:54.157 --> 0:17:58.076 decision in our family to relocate and I'm recalibrating things 0:17:58.076 --> 0:17:59.997 and that's great, but that doesn't mean life has to 0:17:59.997 --> 0:18:03.517 be small. Like life can be big because what I 0:18:03.517 --> 0:18:06.277 was thinking is, so this year I've struggled a lot 0:18:06.277 --> 0:18:08.657 with confidence, right? That sounds quite defensive. 0:18:10.527 --> 0:18:13.767 I've struggled a lot with confidence this year. I'm writing 0:18:13.767 --> 0:18:15.557 a book, hopefully by the time you listen to this, 0:18:15.606 --> 0:18:19.216 I've nearly finished it, and I'm like, oh, I don't go, 0:18:20.287 --> 0:18:22.287 and I've talked to some people about it and they've 0:18:22.287 --> 0:18:23.326 all said the same thing. 0:18:24.277 --> 0:18:27.877 You've gotta believe that it can be big. What's the point? 0:18:27.946 --> 0:18:30.206 It's a bit like juice and squeeze. What's the point? 0:18:31.196 --> 0:18:33.476 And not necessarily that that means that the book has 0:18:33.476 --> 0:18:35.956 to be big, but even then, see, I'm talking myself 0:18:35.956 --> 0:18:38.476 out of it already. But like, not that the book 0:18:38.476 --> 0:18:40.316 necessarily has to be big, but that if anything is 0:18:40.316 --> 0:18:42.726 worth doing, it's worth doing big. Like we're gonna go 0:18:42.726 --> 0:18:47.716 on tour, right? In 2022 we're going. If we're gonna 0:18:47.716 --> 0:18:49.387 go on tour and I'm gonna be away from my 0:18:49.387 --> 0:18:52.116 family and we're gonna go then it's gonna be big dance. 0:18:52.586 --> 0:18:59.047 It's gonna be the biggest. I want back-up dancers. Also, uh, fireworks, machines, pyrotechnics, 0:18:59.057 --> 0:19:03.116 costumes what you wish for. Like, and it can be 0:19:03.116 --> 0:19:05.777 big in personal ways too, like I wanna see my family, 0:19:05.797 --> 0:19:08.116 for fuck's sake, I wanna see my family. I wanna 0:19:08.116 --> 0:19:11.076 leave the country. I wanna leave the country. I want 0:19:11.076 --> 0:19:14.637 big dreams, big plans plans. Like people, I've met some 0:19:14.637 --> 0:19:16.997 people lately who you go, you know, they're the people 0:19:16.997 --> 0:19:18.797 who run at life, it doesn't necessarily mean they've got 0:19:18.797 --> 0:19:20.356 a big career or whatever, it means that maybe, 0:19:20.517 --> 0:19:23.797 In their personal life, their family life, whatever, they go hard, 0:19:23.877 --> 0:19:27.277 they do it right, big this year, big. I love that. 0:19:27.356 --> 0:19:31.517 Enter the record. Look at her 2022. I feel as 0:19:31.517 --> 0:19:34.497 Holly's been speaking, she's kind of like sat up and she's, 0:19:34.716 --> 0:19:38.257 she's become bigger in her presence. I feel like Holly's 0:19:38.257 --> 0:19:40.547 in a mood. She's now having a hot flush and she's, 0:19:40.596 --> 0:19:44.596 she's excited herself too much. She overexcited herself. She needs 0:19:44.596 --> 0:19:48.557 a fan. Big birthday, birthday, so big hormone. 0:19:48.757 --> 0:19:51.716 2022, I think we all need a big year after 0:19:51.716 --> 0:19:54.677 a couple of very weird years. One of the best 0:19:54.677 --> 0:19:58.297 words I've heard recently was my twin sister Claire had 0:19:58.297 --> 0:20:02.356 her word for 2021 was risk. And every decision she made, 0:20:02.476 --> 0:20:06.517 she is a very safe, calculated person. Every decision she 0:20:06.517 --> 0:20:09.277 made was through that prism. It's been so exciting to 0:20:09.277 --> 0:20:13.557 watch her grow by taking a series of risks. So 0:20:13.557 --> 0:20:15.147 I think that that's also a good one to put 0:20:15.147 --> 0:20:16.576 in the mix if you're trying to find a word. 0:20:17.627 --> 0:20:20.757 That's it, we've got our words for 2022. Thank you 0:20:20.757 --> 0:20:24.997 for helping us along out loud as we hope, we 0:20:24.997 --> 0:20:27.997 can't predict anything. We said last year, let's hope it's 0:20:28.196 --> 0:20:30.956 different to the one before. Who knows what's gonna happen, 0:20:31.037 --> 0:20:32.677 but it was different, it was worse. 0:20:34.767 --> 0:20:37.167 Let's not hope it's different. That's not what we. One 0:20:37.167 --> 0:20:40.017 thing is for sure, we're gonna be here. This is 0:20:40.017 --> 0:20:43.116 who we are, we're gonna do it together, we love you. 0:20:43.287 --> 0:20:46.287 Thank you for starting the new year with us. Thank 0:20:46.287 --> 0:20:49.206 you to Emma Gillespie, our incredible producer. Thank you to 0:20:49.206 --> 0:20:54.686 Eliza Ratliff, our amazing EP. Please share your, please share 0:20:54.686 --> 0:20:57.606