1 00:00:09,506 --> 00:00:12,697 Speaker 1: If you're missing your weekly Outloud routine over the break, 2 00:00:12,977 --> 00:00:15,866 Speaker 1: we wanted to let you know we're still dropping episodes 3 00:00:15,866 --> 00:00:20,646 Speaker 1: for M+ subscribers. To get full access to Outloud, including 4 00:00:20,646 --> 00:00:25,226 Speaker 1: the back catalog of over 50 subscriber-only episodes, head to 5 00:00:25,226 --> 00:00:32,187 Speaker 1: Mamma Mia.com.au/Mplus. That's M P L U S or follow 6 00:00:32,187 --> 00:00:33,906 Speaker 1: the link in the episode description. 7 00:00:40,896 --> 00:00:44,857 Speaker 2: Hi Mamma Mia Outloud, it's Susannah from Melbourne. My word 8 00:00:44,857 --> 00:00:49,366 Speaker 2: for 2022 is flow. If I've learned anything this year, 9 00:00:49,627 --> 00:00:52,656 Speaker 2: things just do not always go to plan, so for 10 00:00:52,656 --> 00:00:56,436 Speaker 2: this coming year, I am just going to go with it. Alright, 11 00:00:56,537 --> 00:00:59,026 Speaker 2: so my word of the year is fun. 12 00:00:59,366 --> 00:01:02,026 Speaker 2: I'm going to have so much fun in my life 13 00:01:02,026 --> 00:01:05,526 Speaker 2: because if we don't have fun, then life is pretty 14 00:01:05,526 --> 00:01:08,967 Speaker 2: damn boring and it's been a really tough year. 15 00:01:09,487 --> 00:01:13,166 Speaker 1: Hi there Outlouders. My name's Alicia. I'm from Melbourne and 16 00:01:13,166 --> 00:01:16,927 Speaker 1: I wanted to share my word for 2022, which is light. 17 00:01:17,206 --> 00:01:18,026 Speaker 1: It's been, 18 00:01:18,927 --> 00:01:22,306 Speaker 1: A crazy two years for everyone and I really feel 19 00:01:22,306 --> 00:01:24,566 Speaker 1: that 2022 is going to be the year of expansion, 20 00:01:24,766 --> 00:01:28,287 Speaker 1: of possibility, of joy, and of life. So let there 21 00:01:28,287 --> 00:01:29,806 Speaker 1: be light. Happy New Year. 22 00:01:31,287 --> 00:01:35,937 Speaker 1: Hello out louders and happy New Year to you. We 23 00:01:35,937 --> 00:01:38,376 Speaker 1: got there, we got there. 24 00:01:38,836 --> 00:01:41,416 Speaker 1: Well, actually, as we're recording this, we're not certain we 25 00:01:41,416 --> 00:01:44,757 Speaker 1: got there, but we're recording this early, so we're hoping 26 00:01:44,757 --> 00:01:47,797 Speaker 1: we got there, but if you're listening to this we're 27 00:01:47,797 --> 00:01:51,196 Speaker 1: being too confident. I know. If you're listening to this, 28 00:01:51,357 --> 00:01:56,717 Speaker 1: we got there, yay! Happy New Year everybody. I'm Holly Wainwright. 29 00:01:56,797 --> 00:02:01,196 Speaker 1: I'm Mia Freedman, I'm Jessie Stevens. Today's the day regular 30 00:02:01,196 --> 00:02:04,157 Speaker 1: Outlouders will know, and our new, our beloved. 31 00:02:04,336 --> 00:02:06,687 Speaker 1: New Outlouders might need a little bit of guidance, but 32 00:02:06,687 --> 00:02:09,316 Speaker 1: today is the day when every year, for the past, 33 00:02:09,376 --> 00:02:12,367 Speaker 1: I don't know, like 5 years, I reckon at least 5, 34 00:02:12,736 --> 00:02:16,497 Speaker 1: we jump on our, our microphones to share with you 35 00:02:16,497 --> 00:02:19,526 Speaker 1: our words of the year and to hear some of yours, 36 00:02:19,817 --> 00:02:23,616 Speaker 1: because we did away with resolutions, New Year's resolutions, ages 37 00:02:23,616 --> 00:02:26,416 Speaker 1: ago at Mamma Mia Outloud because they're a bit mean, 38 00:02:26,497 --> 00:02:28,896 Speaker 1: they're about stopping doing things you love, starting doing things 39 00:02:28,896 --> 00:02:29,836 Speaker 1: you don't really want to do. 40 00:02:30,196 --> 00:02:33,086 Speaker 1: Instead, we choose a word. I think my daughter, my 41 00:02:33,086 --> 00:02:35,717 Speaker 1: 11 year old daughter would call it a vibe. Yeah, 42 00:02:35,926 --> 00:02:40,207 Speaker 1: it is a vibe. We were on the vibe. You 43 00:02:40,207 --> 00:02:43,487 Speaker 1: pick a vibe for 2022. We choose a word that 44 00:02:43,487 --> 00:02:45,467 Speaker 1: is gonna be our vibe for the year. 45 00:02:45,577 --> 00:02:49,717 Speaker 1: It acts sometimes as a, a filter to uh sift 46 00:02:50,256 --> 00:02:54,457 Speaker 1: decisions through. It's like a mantra, yep, sometimes you remind yourself, 47 00:02:54,817 --> 00:02:57,097 Speaker 1: sometimes you get it tattooed on your wrist in Sanskrit, 48 00:02:57,136 --> 00:03:00,237 Speaker 1: although that hasn't happened lately. Not yet. Mia might do 49 00:03:00,237 --> 00:03:00,976 Speaker 1: it this year. 50 00:03:01,457 --> 00:03:05,176 Speaker 1: So, before we reveal our words of the year for 51 00:03:05,176 --> 00:03:06,776 Speaker 1: the year, which in my case is gonna be a 52 00:03:06,776 --> 00:03:08,607 Speaker 1: little challenging, cos I don't know what it is yet, 53 00:03:08,857 --> 00:03:11,536 Speaker 1: it's gonna come to me during the show, we're going 54 00:03:11,536 --> 00:03:14,256 Speaker 1: to look back on the words that we did choose 55 00:03:14,256 --> 00:03:19,097 Speaker 1: for 2021. Mia Freedman, what was your word of the 56 00:03:19,097 --> 00:03:22,116 Speaker 1: year last year? My word of the year was friendship. 57 00:03:22,847 --> 00:03:28,327 Speaker 1: And it's not been a great year. It was the 58 00:03:28,327 --> 00:03:30,336 Speaker 1: longest period of your entire life where you weren't allowed 59 00:03:30,336 --> 00:03:34,457 Speaker 1: to see your friends, so that's cool. Exactly, but at 60 00:03:34,457 --> 00:03:37,577 Speaker 1: the same time it was a time when my group 61 00:03:37,577 --> 00:03:41,097 Speaker 1: chats got me through a very long lockdown, but I 62 00:03:41,097 --> 00:03:44,806 Speaker 1: haven't been able to see my closest friends for a 63 00:03:44,806 --> 00:03:48,997 Speaker 1: really long time. One lives in Washington, one lives in Melbourne, 64 00:03:49,176 --> 00:03:51,817 Speaker 1: one lives in Brisbane, actually a couple live in Melbourne. 65 00:03:52,207 --> 00:03:55,536 Speaker 1: And so I felt very far from my friends this year. 66 00:03:55,696 --> 00:03:58,297 Speaker 1: So I don't know if I could say that it's 67 00:03:58,297 --> 00:04:02,896 Speaker 1: gone great. Did you change any of your, like, lockdown aside, 68 00:04:03,017 --> 00:04:05,976 Speaker 1: which I know is a pretty big aside, did you 69 00:04:05,976 --> 00:04:09,967 Speaker 1: change any of your friendship behaviors? That's a great question. 70 00:04:10,776 --> 00:04:13,817 Speaker 1: I don't think I did, and I think I probably 71 00:04:13,817 --> 00:04:17,136 Speaker 1: need to, because I remember feeling this time last year 72 00:04:17,136 --> 00:04:17,476 Speaker 1: that 73 00:04:17,916 --> 00:04:22,517 Speaker 1: Texting wasn't enough and that I needed to prioritize actually 74 00:04:22,517 --> 00:04:26,396 Speaker 1: seeing my friends and so I was looking at on 75 00:04:26,396 --> 00:04:31,796 Speaker 1: Instagram three sort of friends of mine, Bronwyn McCann, Zoe 76 00:04:31,796 --> 00:04:34,597 Speaker 1: Foster Blake, and Justine Cullen, they're like best friends and 77 00:04:34,597 --> 00:04:36,706 Speaker 1: they do this thing where they get together every so 78 00:04:36,706 --> 00:04:38,426 Speaker 1: often and have a staycation and they hadn't done it 79 00:04:38,426 --> 00:04:40,377 Speaker 1: for ages and they posted all these photos of them. 80 00:04:40,947 --> 00:04:42,866 Speaker 1: You know, without their children, just, I don't know if 81 00:04:42,866 --> 00:04:44,387 Speaker 1: they shared a room. It looked like they were sharing 82 00:04:44,387 --> 00:04:46,866 Speaker 1: a bed, but I'm not sure. I know, but it 83 00:04:46,866 --> 00:04:48,507 Speaker 1: just made it look like a slumber party and it 84 00:04:48,507 --> 00:04:51,826 Speaker 1: just reminded me that so much of the fun of 85 00:04:51,826 --> 00:04:54,967 Speaker 1: friendship is that hanging out time. It's not like sitting 86 00:04:54,967 --> 00:04:58,106 Speaker 1: down at a restaurant where it's quite intense. It's just 87 00:04:58,106 --> 00:05:00,146 Speaker 1: the sort of the incidental time when you're just hanging 88 00:05:00,146 --> 00:05:01,986 Speaker 1: around on your phones and you just go, hey, look 89 00:05:01,986 --> 00:05:02,646 Speaker 1: at this and 90 00:05:02,887 --> 00:05:04,947 Speaker 1: And then Sally Hepworth told me that she went on 91 00:05:04,947 --> 00:05:06,727 Speaker 1: a yoga retreat with a couple of her friends, and 92 00:05:06,727 --> 00:05:08,646 Speaker 1: none of them even do yoga, but it was just 93 00:05:08,646 --> 00:05:12,787 Speaker 1: a way of having that quantity time rather than these 94 00:05:12,787 --> 00:05:15,157 Speaker 1: small bursts. So I thought, hm, I wanna try to 95 00:05:15,157 --> 00:05:17,137 Speaker 1: do that more. Are you gonna carry a bit of 96 00:05:17,137 --> 00:05:19,766 Speaker 1: friendship into your new one? Yeah, I think I should. 97 00:05:19,877 --> 00:05:23,276 Speaker 1: Jessie Stevens, it's been a big year for you. 2021, 98 00:05:23,396 --> 00:05:26,197 Speaker 1: big year for Jessie Stevens. Uh, you weren't the next 99 00:05:26,197 --> 00:05:29,236 Speaker 1: big thing in January 2021. No. Yeah, we're sitting here 100 00:05:29,236 --> 00:05:32,146 Speaker 1: in January 2022 as the next big thing, as the 101 00:05:32,146 --> 00:05:34,616 Speaker 1: next big thing. Remind us of what your word was 102 00:05:34,616 --> 00:05:36,817 Speaker 1: so that we can decide if it helped. 103 00:05:37,276 --> 00:05:40,486 Speaker 1: It was kindness. Oh that's I don't remember it having 104 00:05:40,486 --> 00:05:42,956 Speaker 1: anything to do with that, but I what I remember 105 00:05:42,956 --> 00:05:45,727 Speaker 1: is all our words were very feely. They were very 106 00:05:45,727 --> 00:05:49,317 Speaker 1: feely and I can't quite remember, I think I was 107 00:05:49,317 --> 00:05:55,037 Speaker 1: just feeling like I wasn't doing enough to be kind. 108 00:05:56,347 --> 00:05:59,356 Speaker 1: Go out of my way, exactly, it's like I feel 109 00:05:59,356 --> 00:06:02,437 Speaker 1: as though often I think of something really kind to 110 00:06:02,437 --> 00:06:03,836 Speaker 1: do and then I don't do it. 111 00:06:04,637 --> 00:06:07,197 Speaker 1: So the thoughts are there, which is good for your brain. Exactly, 112 00:06:07,306 --> 00:06:11,317 Speaker 1: which is I'm halfway there, but then I get embarrassed, 113 00:06:11,396 --> 00:06:16,276 Speaker 1: I get shy or busy, and I don't do it. 114 00:06:16,516 --> 00:06:20,116 Speaker 1: So I really wanted to focus more on that. In 115 00:06:20,116 --> 00:06:24,877 Speaker 1: some ways, I suppose there were moments, not really. 116 00:06:26,137 --> 00:06:28,986 Speaker 1: OK, um, during, see this isn't even kind of, this 117 00:06:28,986 --> 00:06:31,637 Speaker 1: is gonna sound so petty, but, um, when I was 118 00:06:33,546 --> 00:06:36,266 Speaker 1: when I was in lockdown, I would be sent the 119 00:06:36,266 --> 00:06:37,227 Speaker 1: odd PR thing. 120 00:06:37,646 --> 00:06:40,116 Speaker 1: And so one day I sent all these like snacks 121 00:06:40,116 --> 00:06:41,727 Speaker 1: and stuff, and I knew that I wasn't gonna eat 122 00:06:41,727 --> 00:06:44,197 Speaker 1: them all, so I chopped it all up and put 123 00:06:44,197 --> 00:06:46,567 Speaker 1: them in different things and left them on the doorsteps 124 00:06:46,567 --> 00:06:48,697 Speaker 1: of everyone on my level in my building cause I 125 00:06:48,697 --> 00:06:51,646 Speaker 1: was like, oh, they'd like that. Anyway, I didn't think 126 00:06:51,646 --> 00:06:53,887 Speaker 1: it was a big deal because it was also a 127 00:06:53,887 --> 00:06:55,247 Speaker 1: bit selfish cause I was like, I don't want this 128 00:06:55,247 --> 00:06:56,667 Speaker 1: going off in my house, so I'm just gonna give 129 00:06:56,667 --> 00:06:59,336 Speaker 1: it to other people. The man across from me, who's 130 00:06:59,336 --> 00:07:02,526 Speaker 1: maybe 70 and lives alone, came to my door. 131 00:07:02,822 --> 00:07:06,622 Speaker 1: 24 hours later with this incredible bottle of sparkling wine 132 00:07:06,622 --> 00:07:08,822 Speaker 1: and was like, that was just the kindest thing, thank 133 00:07:08,822 --> 00:07:10,741 Speaker 1: you so much, that meant so much to me a 134 00:07:10,741 --> 00:07:12,901 Speaker 1: lovely thing to do because it's not like you said 135 00:07:12,901 --> 00:07:15,731 Speaker 1: it's not a big thing, but it's thoughtful and thoughtful 136 00:07:15,731 --> 00:07:19,211 Speaker 1: is important. Yeah, so that's been quite like there's been 137 00:07:19,211 --> 00:07:22,981 Speaker 1: sort of moments that I did that one thing, yeah, 138 00:07:23,102 --> 00:07:25,581 Speaker 1: but I definitely need to do more of it. I 139 00:07:25,581 --> 00:07:27,521 Speaker 1: think about being kind a lot, I just. 140 00:07:28,287 --> 00:07:31,296 Speaker 1: I know, I wanna volunteer or something, I don't know. Whole, 141 00:07:31,486 --> 00:07:34,086 Speaker 1: my word was family and I nailed it because I 142 00:07:34,086 --> 00:07:37,366 Speaker 1: think you actually jinxed all of us. My word was family. 143 00:07:37,407 --> 00:07:39,116 Speaker 1: I was like, go spend more time with the family. 144 00:07:39,287 --> 00:07:41,646 Speaker 1: And then I moved to a place where my family 145 00:07:41,646 --> 00:07:43,806 Speaker 1: were the only people I knew and we got locked 146 00:07:43,806 --> 00:07:47,917 Speaker 1: in our houses for, yes, 3 months. So, you know, 147 00:07:48,086 --> 00:07:51,306 Speaker 1: that really sorted that out for me, I think, and now. 148 00:07:51,451 --> 00:07:54,122 Speaker 1: Job well done. Yeah, job well done. The universe had 149 00:07:54,122 --> 00:07:56,072 Speaker 1: more to do with it than me. Did you know, 150 00:07:56,201 --> 00:07:58,431 Speaker 1: when you chose that word, had you already decided you 151 00:07:58,431 --> 00:08:00,641 Speaker 1: were gonna move, or was it still like getting a fringe, 152 00:08:00,752 --> 00:08:02,681 Speaker 1: something that you would talk about a lot, but you 153 00:08:02,681 --> 00:08:06,042 Speaker 1: didn't think would happen? We were, we wanted to, but 154 00:08:06,042 --> 00:08:09,602 Speaker 1: we had not made a decision and we hadn't found 155 00:08:09,602 --> 00:08:12,122 Speaker 1: anywhere to move to and all those things, so no. 156 00:08:12,947 --> 00:08:16,706 Speaker 1: And it's interesting because, I mean, as anyone who listens 157 00:08:16,706 --> 00:08:18,747 Speaker 1: to the show knows, lockdown, well it's not any of 158 00:08:18,747 --> 00:08:23,146 Speaker 1: our favorite state, let's remember. But last lockdown, the one 159 00:08:23,146 --> 00:08:27,247 Speaker 1: previous lockdown in Sydney, I was quite unwell in my mind. 160 00:08:27,627 --> 00:08:31,026 Speaker 1: And then this one we had more space and although 161 00:08:31,026 --> 00:08:33,306 Speaker 1: it was very challenging because I thought, oh my God, 162 00:08:33,426 --> 00:08:35,947 Speaker 1: we've cut as a family, we've cut ourselves off from 163 00:08:35,947 --> 00:08:38,366 Speaker 1: family of other kinds, like friends and family. 164 00:08:38,787 --> 00:08:41,627 Speaker 1: I think what I realized halfway through is one day 165 00:08:41,627 --> 00:08:43,986 Speaker 1: I'm gonna look back at this time, that time we 166 00:08:43,986 --> 00:08:47,067 Speaker 1: moved to the country and went into lockdown and only 167 00:08:47,067 --> 00:08:47,846 Speaker 1: had each other. 168 00:08:48,137 --> 00:08:50,116 Speaker 1: I'm gonna look back at it and think it was special, 169 00:08:50,697 --> 00:08:53,296 Speaker 1: and I think I realized that halfway through, so I 170 00:08:53,296 --> 00:08:56,137 Speaker 1: probably appreciated it more. Now I'm worried I've made a 171 00:08:56,137 --> 00:08:59,096 Speaker 1: rod for my back because, now that I have moved 172 00:08:59,096 --> 00:09:01,096 Speaker 1: and I come up to Sydney for work quite a lot, 173 00:09:01,216 --> 00:09:06,216 Speaker 1: my family, they want me around. Whereas previously I had 174 00:09:06,216 --> 00:09:09,916 Speaker 1: trained them all that mummy isn't here. Oh, so now 175 00:09:09,916 --> 00:09:12,856 Speaker 1: there's pushback about you leaving. They were used to mummy 176 00:09:12,856 --> 00:09:15,976 Speaker 1: not being around very much, and well mummy's riding now, 177 00:09:16,017 --> 00:09:17,257 Speaker 1: and now it's like, 178 00:09:17,877 --> 00:09:20,346 Speaker 1: What do you mean you're going away again? I need 179 00:09:20,346 --> 00:09:22,656 Speaker 1: you here so that I can tell you every boring 180 00:09:22,656 --> 00:09:25,397 Speaker 1: thing that happened to me the dog. The dogs who 181 00:09:25,397 --> 00:09:27,067 Speaker 1: suddenly like, what do you mean you're leaving the house? 182 00:09:27,147 --> 00:09:29,796 Speaker 1: Where are you going? So I think I can say 183 00:09:29,796 --> 00:09:31,817 Speaker 1: I nailed it, but I can't take all the credit 184 00:09:31,916 --> 00:09:32,356 Speaker 1: for it. 185 00:09:36,377 --> 00:09:39,577 Speaker 1: Hi, Mamma Mia Outloud. This is Haley from Arkansas in 186 00:09:39,577 --> 00:09:43,116 Speaker 1: the United States, and my word of the year is me, 187 00:09:43,457 --> 00:09:46,486 Speaker 1: and it's me for two reasons. One, because of the 188 00:09:46,486 --> 00:09:48,817 Speaker 1: typical mom things. I've been a stay at home mom 189 00:09:48,817 --> 00:09:52,577 Speaker 1: for 4 years now, and I've completely lost my sense 190 00:09:52,577 --> 00:09:55,976 Speaker 1: of self and identity outside of being a mom, and 191 00:09:55,976 --> 00:09:58,596 Speaker 1: this year I want to focus on finding me again. 192 00:09:59,406 --> 00:10:01,966 Speaker 1: The other thing is that I am losing my sight. 193 00:10:02,027 --> 00:10:05,226 Speaker 1: I have a condition called retinitis pigmentosa, and I'm going blind, 194 00:10:05,236 --> 00:10:07,627 Speaker 1: and I'm at the point where I need to use 195 00:10:07,627 --> 00:10:10,627 Speaker 1: a cane and all the other things, and I've always 196 00:10:10,627 --> 00:10:14,257 Speaker 1: been hyper-conscious of how that makes other people around me uncomfortable. 197 00:10:14,587 --> 00:10:19,166 Speaker 1: No more. Me, me first. If it makes other people, 198 00:10:20,007 --> 00:10:22,676 Speaker 1: Uncomfortable, they are the problem, not me, and I've got 199 00:10:22,676 --> 00:10:24,606 Speaker 1: to keep reminding myself that, and this year I want 200 00:10:24,606 --> 00:10:25,387 Speaker 1: to focus on that. 201 00:10:28,277 --> 00:10:31,077 Speaker 1: We've heard a lot of the out louder's words. We're 202 00:10:31,077 --> 00:10:33,666 Speaker 1: coming to the point where we have to declare our words. 203 00:10:33,796 --> 00:10:35,517 Speaker 1: Now we all, the way we do this out loud 204 00:10:35,517 --> 00:10:37,596 Speaker 1: is so you know, is none of us know what 205 00:10:37,596 --> 00:10:40,226 Speaker 1: the other word is, not least because we hadn't decided 206 00:10:40,226 --> 00:10:41,837 Speaker 1: before we walked into the room, so if we did 207 00:10:41,837 --> 00:10:43,517 Speaker 1: try to tell each other, it would have been an 208 00:10:43,517 --> 00:10:44,096 Speaker 1: interesting conversation. 209 00:10:46,416 --> 00:10:50,277 Speaker 1: Holly still doesn't know. She's gonna develop her word. I 210 00:10:50,277 --> 00:10:52,777 Speaker 1: love how we pitched this whole thing as this very 211 00:10:52,777 --> 00:10:58,416 Speaker 1: thought process with so much care. It's, I just can't decide. Alright, 212 00:10:58,616 --> 00:11:02,616 Speaker 1: Jessie Stevens, go first. What is your word for 2022, go. 213 00:11:03,166 --> 00:11:06,577 Speaker 1: It's an ugly one, but it's a necessary one for Jessie. 214 00:11:06,846 --> 00:11:11,676 Speaker 1: It's discipline. Now I've chosen discipline. It's not unlike my 215 00:11:11,676 --> 00:11:14,806 Speaker 1: 2020 word, which was productivity, which I knew that I 216 00:11:14,806 --> 00:11:17,806 Speaker 1: needed to get better at. This is different. And in 217 00:11:17,806 --> 00:11:20,767 Speaker 1: fact this is related to something that Mia was talking 218 00:11:20,767 --> 00:11:24,726 Speaker 1: about recently, which was your theory about how in the 219 00:11:24,726 --> 00:11:28,687 Speaker 1: wake of the pandemic, we all have a desire for 220 00:11:28,687 --> 00:11:32,327 Speaker 1: tighter control over what we can control than ever before. 221 00:11:33,887 --> 00:11:36,306 Speaker 1: My thing pointless, exactly. 222 00:11:36,916 --> 00:11:39,457 Speaker 1: And my thing with discipline is that I've shifted at 223 00:11:39,457 --> 00:11:42,137 Speaker 1: work to doing 3 days, so that on the other 224 00:11:42,137 --> 00:11:45,257 Speaker 1: 2 days, I can do projects, I'm writing a new book, 225 00:11:45,377 --> 00:11:47,377 Speaker 1: I've got, you know, certain things that I need to 226 00:11:47,377 --> 00:11:47,897 Speaker 1: get done. 227 00:11:48,567 --> 00:11:53,337 Speaker 1: Self-discipline has never been more important, and it can be 228 00:11:53,337 --> 00:11:58,986 Speaker 1: very hard, yes, very, very hard, because the thing is 229 00:11:58,986 --> 00:12:01,216 Speaker 1: as well, you're like, I might just jump on see 230 00:12:01,216 --> 00:12:04,067 Speaker 1: what work's doing, I might check my email, and then 231 00:12:04,067 --> 00:12:07,296 Speaker 1: the day's gone, and that can be very, very dangerous. 232 00:12:07,337 --> 00:12:09,976 Speaker 1: And you also go, oh well, I'm not at work 233 00:12:09,976 --> 00:12:11,976 Speaker 1: on Tuesdays and Thursdays, so I'll 234 00:12:12,129 --> 00:12:16,309 Speaker 1: Schedule my hair appointments and my doctor and I'm actually 235 00:12:16,309 --> 00:12:19,470 Speaker 1: gonna change the way I say the word, uh, I, 236 00:12:19,540 --> 00:12:21,729 Speaker 1: I talk about those days because I often say, oh, 237 00:12:21,749 --> 00:12:24,100 Speaker 1: that's my day off, and it's not my day off. 238 00:12:26,439 --> 00:12:27,830 Speaker 1: So I'm like that's not my day off, it might 239 00:12:27,830 --> 00:12:29,910 Speaker 1: be the day that I am at home, but I 240 00:12:29,910 --> 00:12:33,309 Speaker 1: need that day to be incredibly structured in order to form, 241 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,549 Speaker 1: we've talked a lot this year about uh habit. 242 00:12:36,283 --> 00:12:38,803 Speaker 1: And so even in terms of, I wanna take the 243 00:12:38,803 --> 00:12:40,723 Speaker 1: thinking out of every day. I don't wanna decide whether 244 00:12:40,723 --> 00:12:42,673 Speaker 1: I'm exercising or decide what I'm having for lunch. Like, 245 00:12:42,682 --> 00:12:46,562 Speaker 1: I just want self-discipline that it sort of becomes easy 246 00:12:46,562 --> 00:12:48,283 Speaker 1: cause the foundations are all set, so I don't feel 247 00:12:48,283 --> 00:12:51,923 Speaker 1: guilty every minute. So my, my theory on this is 248 00:12:51,923 --> 00:12:57,082 Speaker 1: that routine eliminates the need for discipline, cause I don't 249 00:12:57,082 --> 00:12:59,283 Speaker 1: have discipline, but I am. 250 00:12:59,986 --> 00:13:04,986 Speaker 1: Routine obsessed. I lean into routine heavily, so I can't, 251 00:13:05,067 --> 00:13:07,707 Speaker 1: like I've been having the same thing for breakfast for many, 252 00:13:07,786 --> 00:13:10,137 Speaker 1: many years, and I've been having the same thing for lunch. 253 00:13:10,187 --> 00:13:13,627 Speaker 1: It started during the pandemic and I can't stop, and 254 00:13:13,627 --> 00:13:16,466 Speaker 1: even on weekends, it's two pieces of peanut butter toast 255 00:13:16,466 --> 00:13:17,806 Speaker 1: and a cup of tea and an apple. 256 00:13:18,517 --> 00:13:21,966 Speaker 1: And I can't stop and because the more I, so 257 00:13:21,966 --> 00:13:26,207 Speaker 1: I'm noticing since coming out of lockdown, I've become more 258 00:13:26,207 --> 00:13:29,447 Speaker 1: and more structured with my routine and I think that 259 00:13:29,447 --> 00:13:33,846 Speaker 1: is about discipline. And it's about control. It's about feeling 260 00:13:33,846 --> 00:13:34,846 Speaker 1: to make a decision what should I have for breakfast, 261 00:13:34,937 --> 00:13:37,096 Speaker 1: should I work, should I not, it's like no, these 262 00:13:37,096 --> 00:13:38,926 Speaker 1: are and that's where it comes back to that. 263 00:13:39,033 --> 00:13:41,543 Speaker 1: You know, your I don't list. I was listening to 264 00:13:41,543 --> 00:13:44,332 Speaker 1: a podcast with Sally Hepworth where she was talking about 265 00:13:44,582 --> 00:13:48,632 Speaker 1: how she has certain rules around like she doesn't meet 266 00:13:48,632 --> 00:13:52,153 Speaker 1: people for lunch or breakfast or coffee during the week. 267 00:13:52,353 --> 00:13:54,872 Speaker 1: She just doesn't. Because people can be like, Oh, Tuesday, 268 00:13:54,923 --> 00:13:57,153 Speaker 1: oh yeah, let's catch up. It's like treating it a 269 00:13:57,153 --> 00:13:59,332 Speaker 1: bit like a, a sort of a weekend. 270 00:13:59,658 --> 00:14:01,978 Speaker 1: Tuesdays and Thursdays, it's like a little bit of a 271 00:14:01,978 --> 00:14:06,278 Speaker 1: pretend weekend. And I think it's also about spending time intentionally, 272 00:14:06,338 --> 00:14:09,179 Speaker 1: and that's when I talked about productivity in 2020. It 273 00:14:09,179 --> 00:14:13,059 Speaker 1: was like, there is no worse feeling than realizing hours 274 00:14:13,059 --> 00:14:16,018 Speaker 1: just went and you didn't spend it intentionally, which is 275 00:14:16,018 --> 00:14:18,379 Speaker 1: whether you were scrolling through your phone or just doing 276 00:14:18,379 --> 00:14:20,119 Speaker 1: something to pass the time. I just, 277 00:14:20,767 --> 00:14:23,007 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanna know what I'm, I'm wanna do and 278 00:14:23,007 --> 00:14:26,286 Speaker 1: then just get it done. Discipline. Jessie Stevens, let it 279 00:14:26,286 --> 00:14:30,966 Speaker 1: enter the record. Mia. My word is a word that 280 00:14:30,966 --> 00:14:33,166 Speaker 1: you two will laugh at because you've heard me say 281 00:14:33,166 --> 00:14:35,447 Speaker 1: it so much, but we'll be new to Outlouders, and 282 00:14:35,447 --> 00:14:36,587 Speaker 1: my word is juice. 283 00:14:37,606 --> 00:14:41,846 Speaker 1: Oh, you're obsessed. This is our new, if, if anyone 284 00:14:41,846 --> 00:14:44,726 Speaker 1: who works at Mamma Mia and is in Mia's orbit. 285 00:14:45,637 --> 00:14:50,747 Speaker 1: Has been hearing. So there's a saying about, and it's 286 00:14:50,747 --> 00:14:54,507 Speaker 1: around productivity I think, but it's around, is the juice 287 00:14:54,507 --> 00:14:58,666 Speaker 1: worth the squeeze, right? So that's basically saying the effort 288 00:14:58,666 --> 00:15:00,947 Speaker 1: you put into something is what you get out of 289 00:15:00,947 --> 00:15:01,906 Speaker 1: it worth it. 290 00:15:02,596 --> 00:15:04,837 Speaker 1: And that's how you decide, well, am I putting my 291 00:15:04,837 --> 00:15:06,877 Speaker 1: effort in the right places, or am I, is my 292 00:15:06,877 --> 00:15:09,356 Speaker 1: effort the right kind of effort? And I've sort of 293 00:15:09,356 --> 00:15:12,716 Speaker 1: twisted that, cause everyone that I work with, and me 294 00:15:12,716 --> 00:15:14,747 Speaker 1: and everyone I know puts in huge effort. That's not 295 00:15:14,747 --> 00:15:18,476 Speaker 1: a question, but it's like, are we getting enough juice? 296 00:15:18,637 --> 00:15:22,077 Speaker 1: How do we get more juice from the squeeze? So 297 00:15:22,077 --> 00:15:22,676 Speaker 1: it's about work. 298 00:15:22,777 --> 00:15:26,457 Speaker 1: Working smarter and not harder. Correct. Correct, cause my lord, 299 00:15:26,726 --> 00:15:30,017 Speaker 1: everybody's working hard enough. But I think about what I do, 300 00:15:30,137 --> 00:15:32,517 Speaker 1: and if I create a piece of content, for example, 301 00:15:33,176 --> 00:15:35,137 Speaker 1: how can I get more juice out of it than 302 00:15:35,137 --> 00:15:38,856 Speaker 1: just that one thing that goes on Instagram? Can it 303 00:15:38,856 --> 00:15:41,497 Speaker 1: be a piece of written content that also I make 304 00:15:41,497 --> 00:15:42,986 Speaker 1: into a video, that also we talk 305 00:15:43,106 --> 00:15:46,156 Speaker 1: About on out loud, that maybe I do in my newsletter. 306 00:15:46,327 --> 00:15:49,476 Speaker 1: And I don't mean repeating things, but I mean, we're 307 00:15:49,476 --> 00:15:51,926 Speaker 1: all spread, certainly if you work in the media, you 308 00:15:51,926 --> 00:15:55,306 Speaker 1: spread it across so many different platforms that you think 309 00:15:55,476 --> 00:15:58,116 Speaker 1: there's not really, because of the demands, you, as you've 310 00:15:58,116 --> 00:16:00,997 Speaker 1: said many times, Jessie, it's table stakes, and you've said 311 00:16:00,997 --> 00:16:03,176 Speaker 1: hold to. It's, you gotta be everywhere. 312 00:16:03,877 --> 00:16:08,247 Speaker 1: But how can you, instead of making individual things for everyone, 313 00:16:08,366 --> 00:16:12,327 Speaker 1: how can you make like a batch of cupcakes rather 314 00:16:12,327 --> 00:16:16,247 Speaker 1: than like one cake for one person? Um, scaling up. 315 00:16:16,366 --> 00:16:18,687 Speaker 1: So I've just mixed juice and cake, which is making 316 00:16:18,687 --> 00:16:21,716 Speaker 1: me very hungry. Are there any other applications to this, 317 00:16:21,726 --> 00:16:24,257 Speaker 1: do you think, like in your personal life? Oh, I 318 00:16:24,257 --> 00:16:27,087 Speaker 1: don't like are there other areas where you know you 319 00:16:27,087 --> 00:16:30,127 Speaker 1: could like, in the family world or in friendship world 320 00:16:30,127 --> 00:16:31,067 Speaker 1: you could include, 321 00:16:32,317 --> 00:16:36,317 Speaker 1: Squeeze. Every time your child tells you a story, just 322 00:16:36,317 --> 00:16:40,077 Speaker 1: be like, is this juice worth the squeeze? Like, is 323 00:16:40,077 --> 00:16:43,397 Speaker 1: the time that you're taking to tell me this story 324 00:16:43,397 --> 00:16:45,957 Speaker 1: about your day, interesting enough. Actually, did you see, I 325 00:16:45,957 --> 00:16:47,957 Speaker 1: think it was Michelle Laurie on Instagram this week said 326 00:16:47,957 --> 00:16:50,216 Speaker 1: I've told my kids they've gotta lift their chat game. 327 00:16:52,546 --> 00:16:55,666 Speaker 1: It's so true. You pick them up sometimes and they're 328 00:16:55,666 --> 00:16:58,197 Speaker 1: like blah blah blah. You're like, is this worth my time? 329 00:16:59,187 --> 00:17:02,226 Speaker 1: That's so true, I love that. You should have implement 330 00:17:02,226 --> 00:17:04,426 Speaker 1: it at home and see what happens. Is this squeeze 331 00:17:04,426 --> 00:17:07,236 Speaker 1: worth the juice that is not juice trickling out of it. 332 00:17:07,306 --> 00:17:10,866 Speaker 1: Now I would like to put some money on the 333 00:17:10,866 --> 00:17:13,427 Speaker 1: fact that in 3 months when we tell Mia her 334 00:17:13,427 --> 00:17:15,846 Speaker 1: word is juice, she will have forgotten what it means. 335 00:17:16,346 --> 00:17:19,177 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, you'll think you endeavored to drink more juice 336 00:17:20,816 --> 00:17:24,017 Speaker 1: really confused. Yeah, it's true. I've worked it out. I've 337 00:17:24,017 --> 00:17:29,557 Speaker 1: worked it out. What is it? It's big. I want 338 00:17:29,627 --> 00:17:32,907 Speaker 1: to have a big fucking year. 339 00:17:34,136 --> 00:17:36,805 Speaker 1: That's interesting cos it wasn't 2020, can you remember what 340 00:17:36,805 --> 00:17:37,955 Speaker 1: your word was? Less. 341 00:17:39,397 --> 00:17:44,716 Speaker 1: So you've gone from we went too little. It was 342 00:17:44,716 --> 00:17:50,017 Speaker 1: less family big, right? I want it to be big 343 00:17:50,677 --> 00:17:54,157 Speaker 1: in lots of ways, because, so we've made this big 344 00:17:54,157 --> 00:17:58,076 Speaker 1: decision in our family to relocate and I'm recalibrating things 345 00:17:58,076 --> 00:17:59,997 Speaker 1: and that's great, but that doesn't mean life has to 346 00:17:59,997 --> 00:18:03,517 Speaker 1: be small. Like life can be big because what I 347 00:18:03,517 --> 00:18:06,277 Speaker 1: was thinking is, so this year I've struggled a lot 348 00:18:06,277 --> 00:18:08,657 Speaker 1: with confidence, right? That sounds quite defensive. 349 00:18:10,527 --> 00:18:13,767 Speaker 1: I've struggled a lot with confidence this year. I'm writing 350 00:18:13,767 --> 00:18:15,557 Speaker 1: a book, hopefully by the time you listen to this, 351 00:18:15,606 --> 00:18:19,216 Speaker 1: I've nearly finished it, and I'm like, oh, I don't go, 352 00:18:20,287 --> 00:18:22,287 Speaker 1: and I've talked to some people about it and they've 353 00:18:22,287 --> 00:18:23,326 Speaker 1: all said the same thing. 354 00:18:24,277 --> 00:18:27,877 Speaker 1: You've gotta believe that it can be big. What's the point? 355 00:18:27,946 --> 00:18:30,206 Speaker 1: It's a bit like juice and squeeze. What's the point? 356 00:18:31,196 --> 00:18:33,476 Speaker 1: And not necessarily that that means that the book has 357 00:18:33,476 --> 00:18:35,956 Speaker 1: to be big, but even then, see, I'm talking myself 358 00:18:35,956 --> 00:18:38,476 Speaker 1: out of it already. But like, not that the book 359 00:18:38,476 --> 00:18:40,316 Speaker 1: necessarily has to be big, but that if anything is 360 00:18:40,316 --> 00:18:42,726 Speaker 1: worth doing, it's worth doing big. Like we're gonna go 361 00:18:42,726 --> 00:18:47,716 Speaker 1: on tour, right? In 2022 we're going. If we're gonna 362 00:18:47,716 --> 00:18:49,387 Speaker 1: go on tour and I'm gonna be away from my 363 00:18:49,387 --> 00:18:52,116 Speaker 1: family and we're gonna go then it's gonna be big dance. 364 00:18:52,586 --> 00:18:59,047 Speaker 1: It's gonna be the biggest. I want back-up dancers. Also, uh, fireworks, machines, pyrotechnics, 365 00:18:59,057 --> 00:19:03,116 Speaker 1: costumes what you wish for. Like, and it can be 366 00:19:03,116 --> 00:19:05,777 Speaker 1: big in personal ways too, like I wanna see my family, 367 00:19:05,797 --> 00:19:08,116 Speaker 1: for fuck's sake, I wanna see my family. I wanna 368 00:19:08,116 --> 00:19:11,076 Speaker 1: leave the country. I wanna leave the country. I want 369 00:19:11,076 --> 00:19:14,637 Speaker 1: big dreams, big plans plans. Like people, I've met some 370 00:19:14,637 --> 00:19:16,997 Speaker 1: people lately who you go, you know, they're the people 371 00:19:16,997 --> 00:19:18,797 Speaker 1: who run at life, it doesn't necessarily mean they've got 372 00:19:18,797 --> 00:19:20,356 Speaker 1: a big career or whatever, it means that maybe, 373 00:19:20,517 --> 00:19:23,797 Speaker 1: In their personal life, their family life, whatever, they go hard, 374 00:19:23,877 --> 00:19:27,277 Speaker 1: they do it right, big this year, big. I love that. 375 00:19:27,356 --> 00:19:31,517 Speaker 1: Enter the record. Look at her 2022. I feel as 376 00:19:31,517 --> 00:19:34,497 Speaker 1: Holly's been speaking, she's kind of like sat up and she's, 377 00:19:34,716 --> 00:19:38,257 Speaker 1: she's become bigger in her presence. I feel like Holly's 378 00:19:38,257 --> 00:19:40,547 Speaker 1: in a mood. She's now having a hot flush and she's, 379 00:19:40,596 --> 00:19:44,596 Speaker 1: she's excited herself too much. She overexcited herself. She needs 380 00:19:44,596 --> 00:19:48,557 Speaker 1: a fan. Big birthday, birthday, so big hormone. 381 00:19:48,757 --> 00:19:51,716 Speaker 1: 2022, I think we all need a big year after 382 00:19:51,716 --> 00:19:54,677 Speaker 1: a couple of very weird years. One of the best 383 00:19:54,677 --> 00:19:58,297 Speaker 1: words I've heard recently was my twin sister Claire had 384 00:19:58,297 --> 00:20:02,356 Speaker 1: her word for 2021 was risk. And every decision she made, 385 00:20:02,476 --> 00:20:06,517 Speaker 1: she is a very safe, calculated person. Every decision she 386 00:20:06,517 --> 00:20:09,277 Speaker 1: made was through that prism. It's been so exciting to 387 00:20:09,277 --> 00:20:13,557 Speaker 1: watch her grow by taking a series of risks. So 388 00:20:13,557 --> 00:20:15,147 Speaker 1: I think that that's also a good one to put 389 00:20:15,147 --> 00:20:16,576 Speaker 1: in the mix if you're trying to find a word. 390 00:20:17,627 --> 00:20:20,757 Speaker 1: That's it, we've got our words for 2022. Thank you 391 00:20:20,757 --> 00:20:24,997 Speaker 1: for helping us along out loud as we hope, we 392 00:20:24,997 --> 00:20:27,997 Speaker 1: can't predict anything. We said last year, let's hope it's 393 00:20:28,196 --> 00:20:30,956 Speaker 1: different to the one before. Who knows what's gonna happen, 394 00:20:31,037 --> 00:20:32,677 Speaker 1: but it was different, it was worse. 395 00:20:34,767 --> 00:20:37,167 Speaker 1: Let's not hope it's different. That's not what we. One 396 00:20:37,167 --> 00:20:40,017 Speaker 1: thing is for sure, we're gonna be here. This is 397 00:20:40,017 --> 00:20:43,116 Speaker 1: who we are, we're gonna do it together, we love you. 398 00:20:43,287 --> 00:20:46,287 Speaker 1: Thank you for starting the new year with us. Thank 399 00:20:46,287 --> 00:20:49,206 Speaker 1: you to Emma Gillespie, our incredible producer. Thank you to 400 00:20:49,206 --> 00:20:54,686 Speaker 1: Eliza Ratliff, our amazing EP. Please share your, please share 401 00:20:54,686 --> 00:20:57,606 Speaker 1: your words in the group. We want some info, we 402 00:20:57,606 --> 00:20:59,846 Speaker 1: want everyone to decide what their word is, tell us 403 00:20:59,846 --> 00:21:03,566 Speaker 1: why it's your word, we wanna know. Let us know. Bye, bye.