1 00:00:11,384 --> 00:00:14,104 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:14,744 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 3 00:00:18,704 --> 00:00:20,584 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. 4 00:00:31,264 --> 00:00:31,904 Speaker 1: Good Morning. 5 00:00:32,024 --> 00:00:34,624 Speaker 3: Darling spillers, I have missed you in the last twenty 6 00:00:34,624 --> 00:00:36,064 Speaker 3: four hours since we've been a partner. 7 00:00:36,064 --> 00:00:38,384 Speaker 1: My god, what a huge twenty four hours it's been. 8 00:00:38,544 --> 00:00:40,224 Speaker 3: If you're not a teit list, we've found that I'd 9 00:00:40,264 --> 00:00:42,344 Speaker 3: go ahead and like fast forward the next two minutes. 10 00:00:42,384 --> 00:00:44,704 Speaker 1: But even if you're not a huge tata found. 11 00:00:44,504 --> 00:00:47,304 Speaker 3: This might help you understand why the rest of the 12 00:00:47,304 --> 00:00:49,224 Speaker 3: world is losing their mind, or at least give you 13 00:00:49,664 --> 00:00:52,344 Speaker 3: enough information to keep up with the crazies at work. 14 00:00:52,384 --> 00:00:54,544 Speaker 3: And I can say that because I am one of 15 00:00:54,544 --> 00:00:57,584 Speaker 3: those crazies at work. But not only that, we've gotten 16 00:00:57,624 --> 00:01:00,464 Speaker 3: new stuff from the Duchess of Sussex, I mean, and 17 00:01:00,624 --> 00:01:02,264 Speaker 3: a big birthday for Dua Lipa. 18 00:01:02,464 --> 00:01:03,664 Speaker 1: Let's spill some tea, babe. 19 00:01:04,064 --> 00:01:06,504 Speaker 3: Okay, so obviously we're going to dedicate at least half 20 00:01:06,544 --> 00:01:09,784 Speaker 3: of today's episode to our Queen Tete, who yesterday announced 21 00:01:09,784 --> 00:01:13,264 Speaker 3: her twelve album, The Life of a show Girl. In 22 00:01:13,304 --> 00:01:16,144 Speaker 3: case you missed it, she used her Man's podcast to 23 00:01:16,184 --> 00:01:18,624 Speaker 3: make the big announcement with the full interview coming later 24 00:01:18,664 --> 00:01:19,064 Speaker 3: this week. 25 00:01:19,344 --> 00:01:20,704 Speaker 4: So I wanted to show you something. 26 00:01:21,144 --> 00:01:22,544 Speaker 3: Okay, what we got. 27 00:01:22,864 --> 00:01:25,984 Speaker 1: We got a briefcase. 28 00:01:26,224 --> 00:01:31,264 Speaker 4: Yep, Mick Green, Yep. This is my brand new album, 29 00:01:31,784 --> 00:01:32,824 Speaker 4: The Life of a Show Girl. 30 00:01:36,064 --> 00:01:38,584 Speaker 3: Now, before I share some of my favorite memories of 31 00:01:38,624 --> 00:01:42,064 Speaker 3: interviewing Taylor Swift over the years. Here is Mummy's entertainment 32 00:01:42,144 --> 00:01:45,824 Speaker 3: editor and more importantly, Huge Swifty Tina Burke, with her 33 00:01:45,904 --> 00:01:48,664 Speaker 3: in depth commentary on the latest developments. 34 00:01:49,024 --> 00:01:51,264 Speaker 2: If you look back at Taylor Swift's history, there are 35 00:01:51,384 --> 00:01:54,624 Speaker 2: so many different Easter eggs and hints and clues at 36 00:01:54,784 --> 00:01:57,264 Speaker 2: what this album would be called when it would be announced. 37 00:01:57,304 --> 00:01:59,184 Speaker 2: And that's actually one of my favorite things about being 38 00:01:59,224 --> 00:02:01,544 Speaker 2: a swiftye is that I love the Easter eggs. 39 00:02:01,544 --> 00:02:02,144 Speaker 1: I love the clues. 40 00:02:02,184 --> 00:02:03,944 Speaker 2: I don't always catch them, but I do love to 41 00:02:03,944 --> 00:02:06,424 Speaker 2: go back and look once we know the answer. And 42 00:02:06,464 --> 00:02:08,544 Speaker 2: it's been a lot of fun. So Taylor Swift was 43 00:02:08,624 --> 00:02:11,064 Speaker 2: hinting for a really long time that the color orange 44 00:02:11,104 --> 00:02:13,664 Speaker 2: would signify her new era. She was dropping hints at 45 00:02:13,664 --> 00:02:15,784 Speaker 2: the end of the era's tour that something would be 46 00:02:15,824 --> 00:02:18,784 Speaker 2: coming after this and now we know, you know, the 47 00:02:18,784 --> 00:02:23,424 Speaker 2: thematic color of TS twelve, her twelve studio album is Orange, 48 00:02:24,024 --> 00:02:25,904 Speaker 2: and it's also a Winter Green a bit of a combo, 49 00:02:25,944 --> 00:02:27,784 Speaker 2: both of which she's been hinting at. There's also a 50 00:02:27,784 --> 00:02:31,544 Speaker 2: lot of stars featured again, lots of hints previously, from 51 00:02:31,704 --> 00:02:34,184 Speaker 2: the anti Hero music video to a font change on 52 00:02:34,224 --> 00:02:36,784 Speaker 2: her website. There's so many little things that hinted what 53 00:02:36,904 --> 00:02:39,584 Speaker 2: was coming, and then you know, the biggest one being 54 00:02:39,664 --> 00:02:42,184 Speaker 2: the sort of stage production for her song I Can 55 00:02:42,224 --> 00:02:43,944 Speaker 2: Do It with a Broken Heart at the Era's tour. 56 00:02:44,024 --> 00:02:46,424 Speaker 2: It was like a full showgirl production. And the name 57 00:02:46,464 --> 00:02:49,104 Speaker 2: of the new album is the Life of a show Girl. 58 00:02:49,264 --> 00:02:52,024 Speaker 2: And so what we know so far is that Max Martin, 59 00:02:52,264 --> 00:02:54,264 Speaker 2: who has previously worked with Taylor and a lot of 60 00:02:54,264 --> 00:02:57,304 Speaker 2: her biggest hits, seems to be involved as the producer 61 00:02:57,344 --> 00:02:59,384 Speaker 2: of these songs. We know this because she made a 62 00:02:59,424 --> 00:03:02,504 Speaker 2: Spotify playlist and the only songs she's put on it 63 00:03:02,544 --> 00:03:05,504 Speaker 2: are ones that they've worked on together. So it does 64 00:03:05,504 --> 00:03:07,224 Speaker 2: seem like this album might not have been made with 65 00:03:07,304 --> 00:03:10,304 Speaker 2: Jack Antonoff, one of her other longtime producers in Club, 66 00:03:10,824 --> 00:03:13,464 Speaker 2: but he might be involved in some way. So we 67 00:03:13,544 --> 00:03:15,464 Speaker 2: know that Max Martin is involved, we know the name 68 00:03:15,504 --> 00:03:18,704 Speaker 2: of the album. It's looking like an October release, because 69 00:03:19,224 --> 00:03:21,704 Speaker 2: the vinyl that you can purchase and like the cassettes 70 00:03:21,744 --> 00:03:24,624 Speaker 2: that you can pre order to purchase now, they say 71 00:03:24,624 --> 00:03:29,464 Speaker 2: that they'll be shipped by October thirteen, So weird, but 72 00:03:29,704 --> 00:03:31,504 Speaker 2: that's what it says they will be shipped by. So 73 00:03:31,784 --> 00:03:34,784 Speaker 2: we know that around October this is probably coming. And 74 00:03:34,824 --> 00:03:36,624 Speaker 2: we also know that Taylor's going to go on Travis 75 00:03:36,704 --> 00:03:39,864 Speaker 2: Kelsey's podcast New Heights later this week to talk more 76 00:03:39,904 --> 00:03:42,704 Speaker 2: about the album. So it's kind of like she's treating 77 00:03:42,744 --> 00:03:44,744 Speaker 2: this as what she used to do was like these 78 00:03:44,864 --> 00:03:46,864 Speaker 2: fan sessions where she'd have fans come to her home 79 00:03:46,904 --> 00:03:48,544 Speaker 2: and she would tell them all about her new albums, 80 00:03:48,544 --> 00:03:50,984 Speaker 2: tell them the songs, play them a couple. They'd have 81 00:03:50,984 --> 00:03:53,464 Speaker 2: these really intimate experiences. So it kind of seems like 82 00:03:53,504 --> 00:03:55,784 Speaker 2: now she might be entering her podcast era and she's 83 00:03:55,824 --> 00:03:58,184 Speaker 2: going to do that with the Kelsey Brothers this week, 84 00:03:58,264 --> 00:04:00,304 Speaker 2: run them through the album, let us know what's to come. 85 00:04:00,344 --> 00:04:02,544 Speaker 2: But yeah, there's lots and lots of theories out there, 86 00:04:02,624 --> 00:04:06,864 Speaker 2: especially a couple involving Sabrina Carpenter, her close friend and 87 00:04:06,944 --> 00:04:10,504 Speaker 2: you know, someone who's also releasing music this year. It 88 00:04:10,504 --> 00:04:13,344 Speaker 2: seems like that might be something that's coming. It's also like, 89 00:04:13,424 --> 00:04:15,304 Speaker 2: you know, this is taylor'swoof we're talking about. We're sure 90 00:04:15,304 --> 00:04:18,184 Speaker 2: to get so many more clues and puzzles, hopefully a 91 00:04:18,264 --> 00:04:21,304 Speaker 2: couple of lead singles before the album drops. But it's 92 00:04:21,344 --> 00:04:23,384 Speaker 2: just exciting to know that she's working on something new. 93 00:04:23,704 --> 00:04:25,904 Speaker 2: It's you know, it's what the Swifties love and want. 94 00:04:25,984 --> 00:04:28,744 Speaker 2: We are absolutely losing our minds in the best way possible. 95 00:04:28,904 --> 00:04:31,464 Speaker 3: So we're counting down the seconds until October and the 96 00:04:31,464 --> 00:04:34,024 Speaker 3: fact that she's working with Max Martin and Shellback might 97 00:04:34,064 --> 00:04:36,264 Speaker 3: be indicated. And this is going back to the big 98 00:04:36,624 --> 00:04:39,184 Speaker 3: pop bangers. Of course, Max is responsible for some of 99 00:04:39,224 --> 00:04:42,264 Speaker 3: the biggest pop songs of our lifetime, working with everyone 100 00:04:42,304 --> 00:04:45,384 Speaker 3: from Backstreet Boys to Britney Kesher ari Yah Na Avril. 101 00:04:45,944 --> 00:04:46,104 Speaker 1: Now. 102 00:04:46,104 --> 00:04:48,664 Speaker 3: I've been very lucky over the years to have interviewed 103 00:04:48,704 --> 00:04:51,184 Speaker 3: Taylor a couple of times, the first being ten years 104 00:04:51,184 --> 00:04:54,024 Speaker 3: ago when we bonded over a communal love of j Z. 105 00:04:54,304 --> 00:04:55,864 Speaker 3: The fact that I know the words so that it 106 00:04:55,904 --> 00:04:56,984 Speaker 3: makes me feel so bad. 107 00:04:57,024 --> 00:04:58,664 Speaker 2: You know every word to that too Moke. 108 00:04:58,944 --> 00:05:00,024 Speaker 1: You probably know more than me. 109 00:05:00,224 --> 00:05:02,344 Speaker 4: It's a really important song to know all the words too. 110 00:05:02,424 --> 00:05:04,584 Speaker 4: It is okay, it tells a brilliant tale. 111 00:05:04,704 --> 00:05:11,464 Speaker 1: Highlight it. But it's like tabulais. I am passed the bar. 112 00:05:11,704 --> 00:05:13,664 Speaker 3: But I know a little bit enough that you on 113 00:05:13,824 --> 00:05:18,584 Speaker 3: legal search my yeah see yeah, classy lady, None of 114 00:05:18,584 --> 00:05:20,224 Speaker 3: that filth's coming out of these mouths. 115 00:05:20,264 --> 00:05:20,784 Speaker 1: I don't think so. 116 00:05:21,064 --> 00:05:23,744 Speaker 3: And then, more recently, for her Love launch in Paris, 117 00:05:23,784 --> 00:05:27,144 Speaker 3: we bonded over the idea of turning thirty and the 118 00:05:27,224 --> 00:05:29,744 Speaker 3: idea that you, as a woman can reject the need 119 00:05:29,944 --> 00:05:30,744 Speaker 3: to be likable. 120 00:05:31,064 --> 00:05:34,784 Speaker 4: You know, women in music, you really see how so 121 00:05:34,904 --> 00:05:38,384 Speaker 4: much of our career success is hinges on likability and 122 00:05:38,464 --> 00:05:41,184 Speaker 4: male artists can you know they don't have to be 123 00:05:41,264 --> 00:05:43,384 Speaker 4: likable all the time because people just focus on what 124 00:05:43,424 --> 00:05:47,184 Speaker 4: they make. So reputation was really an exercise in me realizing, 125 00:05:47,304 --> 00:05:53,304 Speaker 4: like I can reject that likability, Amen still really enjoy 126 00:05:53,384 --> 00:05:53,904 Speaker 4: my life. 127 00:05:54,064 --> 00:05:55,664 Speaker 3: Do you know what's going to be even great if 128 00:05:55,744 --> 00:05:57,864 Speaker 3: you and I know this because I have come before 129 00:05:57,904 --> 00:05:59,904 Speaker 3: you tail us with, is that you get to turn 130 00:05:59,944 --> 00:06:00,504 Speaker 3: thirty soon. 131 00:06:00,904 --> 00:06:03,144 Speaker 1: I thought you were younger than me. No, no, I'm thirty. 132 00:06:03,784 --> 00:06:06,584 Speaker 1: Sorry I thought you were. I thought you were younger. 133 00:06:06,424 --> 00:06:08,664 Speaker 3: Already and I made it. No, I'm eighty six. Amazing 134 00:06:08,824 --> 00:06:12,504 Speaker 3: And when I turned thirty. Damn, that's like a whole. 135 00:06:12,544 --> 00:06:14,904 Speaker 1: So it's going to get even more like, Oh, you 136 00:06:14,944 --> 00:06:17,624 Speaker 1: think I'm an idiot. You are wrong about that. I'm 137 00:06:17,664 --> 00:06:20,304 Speaker 1: not rare even than I so little. 138 00:06:20,504 --> 00:06:24,104 Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's amazing, so liberating, Like if someone 139 00:06:24,144 --> 00:06:26,424 Speaker 3: tells you something about yourself that you know is not true, 140 00:06:26,704 --> 00:06:29,184 Speaker 3: you don't take it off. Tata is an absolute queen, 141 00:06:29,224 --> 00:06:30,784 Speaker 3: and the thing I love about her is that she 142 00:06:30,904 --> 00:06:32,824 Speaker 3: goes over and above when she doesn't even have to. 143 00:06:32,904 --> 00:06:35,464 Speaker 3: She could just drop albums without all the fanfare, but 144 00:06:35,504 --> 00:06:38,184 Speaker 3: she plays into the drama, the excitement and all of 145 00:06:38,224 --> 00:06:39,944 Speaker 3: those Easter eggs to make it something that we can 146 00:06:39,984 --> 00:06:41,464 Speaker 3: all feel a part of, which I think is so 147 00:06:41,464 --> 00:06:42,024 Speaker 3: so lovely. 148 00:06:42,384 --> 00:06:43,264 Speaker 1: Bring it on, Tata. 149 00:06:43,504 --> 00:06:45,544 Speaker 3: The life of a show girl is on the way 150 00:06:45,584 --> 00:06:48,544 Speaker 3: and we are all absolutely gagging for it. 151 00:06:48,864 --> 00:06:50,224 Speaker 1: But for now, a stick around. 152 00:06:50,384 --> 00:06:52,864 Speaker 3: Dua Lipa's had a big birthday and oh my goodness, 153 00:06:52,904 --> 00:06:59,384 Speaker 3: I don't know whether to be depressed or impressed. Meghan 154 00:06:59,424 --> 00:07:02,344 Speaker 3: Markle has unveiled the first look at season two of 155 00:07:02,384 --> 00:07:07,704 Speaker 3: her Netflix lifestyle series with Love Comma Megan, the Duchess 156 00:07:07,704 --> 00:07:09,704 Speaker 3: of Sussex, who is forty four years old at premier 157 00:07:09,784 --> 00:07:13,784 Speaker 3: the new season trailer Overnight, revealing the next lot of guests. 158 00:07:14,264 --> 00:07:17,304 Speaker 3: Chrissy Teagan, Antane France from Queer Eye are going to 159 00:07:17,384 --> 00:07:21,424 Speaker 3: be on their plus Spiritual Quasi Guru Jayshetty all jumping 160 00:07:21,464 --> 00:07:22,864 Speaker 3: around to make some pies. 161 00:07:23,184 --> 00:07:28,104 Speaker 1: I love the idea of spending time together and finding 162 00:07:28,184 --> 00:07:30,784 Speaker 1: new ways to show with people you care. Look at that. 163 00:07:31,264 --> 00:07:33,104 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I could do this every day. 164 00:07:33,424 --> 00:07:35,544 Speaker 1: Let's get creative and you learn something new. 165 00:07:35,784 --> 00:07:36,664 Speaker 4: Thanks and done. 166 00:07:36,824 --> 00:07:39,784 Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening, and I'm so glad you 167 00:07:39,864 --> 00:07:42,784 Speaker 1: came to show me how to do this. It's working. 168 00:07:43,024 --> 00:07:44,784 Speaker 3: Today's like getting out of your comfort zone. 169 00:07:44,904 --> 00:07:47,784 Speaker 1: I have no idea how to start. Everybody should have 170 00:07:47,784 --> 00:07:49,224 Speaker 1: one of those home see. 171 00:07:49,224 --> 00:07:52,064 Speaker 3: And finally, happy birthday is in order for Dua Lipa, 172 00:07:52,104 --> 00:07:55,624 Speaker 3: who turns thirty celebrating in Ibitha with friends and her 173 00:07:55,624 --> 00:07:58,944 Speaker 3: fiance Callum Turner. I can't believe she's only thirty. In 174 00:07:59,024 --> 00:08:00,904 Speaker 3: my mind, she's a lot older because she's done so much. 175 00:08:00,944 --> 00:08:01,784 Speaker 1: But more power to her. 176 00:08:01,944 --> 00:08:04,224 Speaker 3: I wonder if she ran into Chris Hemsworth, they could 177 00:08:04,224 --> 00:08:06,104 Speaker 3: have had a joint birthday party sail in the Seas 178 00:08:06,104 --> 00:08:08,864 Speaker 3: of Abitha like the rich, beautiful people that they are. 179 00:08:09,024 --> 00:08:11,944 Speaker 3: Happy Birthday, do a Well, that is it for me, sweethearts. 180 00:08:11,944 --> 00:08:14,304 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for tuning in to Morning Tea today. 181 00:08:14,384 --> 00:08:16,304 Speaker 3: Don't forget to check back in your feed at three 182 00:08:16,344 --> 00:08:19,184 Speaker 3: pm for today's episode of the Spill. 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