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Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast from Mamma Mia. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to this bill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura

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Speaker 1: Brodnick and I'm Tinaverr and coming up on the show today,

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Speaker 1: we woke up to some beautiful wedding photos from one

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Speaker 1: of our very favorite NEPO babies. But there's a bit

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Speaker 1: of a torrid love story that was unfolding, or at

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Speaker 1: least that came back into the spotlight at her wedding,

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Speaker 1: So we're going to get into that. Plus, Britney Spears

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Speaker 1: has sold her entire music catalog, which is something a

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Speaker 1: lot of artists have done lately. But there's a few

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Speaker 1: kind of theories around some bad stuff that's happening to

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Speaker 1: her that has pushed her into that. We're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about that, but first we are still riding high

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Speaker 1: off our little trip to the Australian premiere of Wuthering

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Speaker 1: Heights last week. This is the first time you and

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Speaker 1: I had been on a pod since we went.

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Speaker 2: And sorry, no, that doesn't mean Laura hasn't heard like

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Speaker 2: fifty thousand thoughts from me in the meantime.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I did have to shut off my phone over

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Speaker 1: the weekend. She was done with, so we're saving all

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Speaker 1: of our movie chat for a hot guys. We have

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Speaker 1: so much to say about this movie, so a really

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Speaker 1: honest review is coming later in the week. We want

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Speaker 1: to talk a little about the premiere because it turned

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Speaker 1: into quite the star studded affairs. So we had Margot,

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Speaker 1: Robbie and Jacob Alordie in attendance there plus a whole

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Speaker 1: bunch of other celebs that we didn't know were coming.

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Speaker 2: I know, it was so like la of us to

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Speaker 2: have other celebrities who aren't involved in the movie.

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Speaker 1: And an Australian premiere it's usually whatever star they've flown

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Speaker 1: in for the day and us, yeah, non celebs, which

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Speaker 1: is fair enough. And then a bunch of other like influencers,

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Speaker 1: Austrange TV presenters, a few Home and Away stars all great,

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Speaker 1: all great, love them, but we don't really get like

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Speaker 1: the tinseltown vibes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah premiere, Yeah, we just get whoever gets flown in.

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Speaker 2: But because there's a few things happening here at the moment.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys heard, but Road launched

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Speaker 1: in Australia, so Hailey Bieber was there looking great. She

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Speaker 1: actually shares a stylist with Margot Robbie. So that was

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Speaker 1: kind of cute. Yeah, it makes his job easy, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: And so she Yeah, she was in Australia for the launch,

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Speaker 1: and then it was a surprise that she was coming

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Speaker 1: to event. That night she was spotted. She wasn't sitting

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Speaker 1: near us, even though we were like in the second Road,

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Speaker 1: we had great seats, she wasn't near us. She must

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Speaker 1: have beat up in that little friends and family section

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Speaker 1: that's above the balcony. So I didn't see her. I

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Speaker 1: saw her like doing the red carpet out the front,

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Speaker 1: imposing up a storm, and they were clearing the carpet

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Speaker 1: for her to take her pictures in her amazing like

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Speaker 1: black Lacey Siree ensemble. Yeah, very very wuthering heights. And

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Speaker 1: I think she did come in and watch the movie

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Speaker 1: with us. I wonder if she.

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Speaker 2: Cried something to think about. I don't know that she

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Speaker 2: would have. I don't know, I don't know anything. I

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Speaker 2: don't know enough about Hailey to say whether or not

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Speaker 2: she would have cried.

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Speaker 1: Probably not right well, which is interesting. Were we crying

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Speaker 1: in a similar with Haley be But I would just

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Speaker 1: like to know that, not for my own. Was she

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Speaker 1: also gasping at certains maybe? Or was she like counting

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Speaker 1: just would be interested in what her reaction to such

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Speaker 1: an intense thing. Could you imagine me and her watching

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Speaker 1: a movie together, because I was, I was very like,

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Speaker 1: I try not to be vocal because I'm not trying

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Speaker 1: to annoy people, but this was a film in which

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Speaker 1: at one point she spilt up on me. Later it's fine,

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Speaker 1: but how would Haley have responded to that? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: And then we had a few others laid guests there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Taron Edgerton, Oh my god, my fade. Oh that's your favorite.

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Speaker 1: I love filming something here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's filming in Australia. And then also we had

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Speaker 2: Sarah Snook Diava of Succession, Yes, yes, yeah. And then

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Speaker 2: there were reports, well she was here to that.

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Speaker 1: Right on your Gold Coast, so she's jet setting around.

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Speaker 2: There were reports of Rosie Huntington Whitely, but I did

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Speaker 1: So she was on the guest list. That so when

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Speaker 1: watched the movie and left. Maybe, but you would.

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Speaker 2: We wouldn't like that, you'd want to do the Red carpet.

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Speaker 2: So maybe she realized she was a bit too tired

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Speaker 1: Maybe she couldn't get through that traffic jam. Maybe it

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Speaker 1: was wild, I will say, like obviously for anyone not

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Speaker 1: the fans who I know I talk about in the

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Speaker 1: pod a lot about the people who line up, but

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Speaker 1: I'm so endlessly fascinated by them. Like people fly in

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Speaker 1: or drive, take time off work. They start lining up

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Speaker 1: hours before. Sometimes I've seen them line up twenty four

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Speaker 1: the stars across the red carpet. So there was a

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Speaker 1: lot happening, and Margot and Jacob both went across and

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Speaker 1: did some fans signing Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of stars now are like very

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Speaker 2: aware of the fact that those people have waited a

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Speaker 2: long time and make it a point to go speak

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Speaker 2: And it does also give us some of our funniest

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So Jacob Alordie rocked up looking very dapper and

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Speaker 2: And very gold toothed. May I say, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of the gold tooth that he

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't expect you really really fond of it.

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Speaker 1: So he he popped out of the car looking Dappa,

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Speaker 1: And I've been trapped behind him on a red cart before.

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Speaker 1: I know. He takes his time. You were saying that

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Speaker 1: you've seen videos of him telling security not to like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Venice Film Festival last year, there were quite

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Speaker 2: They often try to like hustle them along, and he

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Speaker 2: there's a clip that like that was obviously lip red

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Speaker 2: he's very committed to the fans signing and he's done

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Speaker 2: it at every single one in London. One fan asked

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Speaker 1: Because he had all his school friends from Queensland surprise him,

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Speaker 1: heard Margo get out of her We saw her go

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was deeply Australian watching them all because then

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Speaker 1: Being in a premiere is both very fun. I thought,

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Speaker 1: the near death experiences I've had at premiere's in the past.

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Speaker 1: And that's not even a joke. No, Sometimes I have

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Speaker 1: And that's just not how I want to die. For

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Speaker 1: a number of reasons. One is that it would be

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Speaker 1: a nameless woman trampled to death on red carpet, Margot Robbie,

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Speaker 1: you know, in a safe condition, that, which is it

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Speaker 1: would all be about her, Margot Robbie's trauma, not about

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Speaker 1: my death. Okay, so that's how I don't want to

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Speaker 1: go down. Well that's something. So we were taking into

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Speaker 1: the cinema and then Margot and Jacob came out on stage. Yes,

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Speaker 1: right in front of us, Right in.

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Speaker 2: Front of us, I'm so close to close to the

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Speaker 2: I'm actually like, this is so creepy.

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Speaker 1: I've touched both of them before, consentually. I've shaken both

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Speaker 1: of their hands, Like when, now, what did you do?

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Speaker 1: I've met an interviewed Margot. I haven't touched her because

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Speaker 1: I'm normal. She didn't shake your hand. No, Well, well

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Speaker 1: that's a special to be Laura.

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Speaker 2: Mine was a red carpet for Antonia, though you don't

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Speaker 2: really handshake on a red carp Oh.

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Speaker 1: Mine was a drinks thing before bar. I'm specially had

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Speaker 1: that i'd come across. I don't want to get in

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Speaker 1: a watch list anywhere. I touched them both consentually, but

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Speaker 1: they were very close to us. Could have touched him again, yes,

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Speaker 1: didn't would have been unprofessional. So they came out on

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Speaker 1: just like ran through the snowy streets of New York

433
00:17:29,834 --> 00:17:32,314
Speaker 1: to get married. Yeah, someone make a ten part series

434
00:17:32,314 --> 00:17:34,954
Speaker 1: about this. Honestly, it was a rom com looking when yes,

435
00:17:35,114 --> 00:17:36,513
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, yes, that's what I was trying to

436
00:17:36,514 --> 00:17:38,394
Speaker 1: say before when I said iconic, I actually want to say,

437
00:17:38,434 --> 00:17:40,234
Speaker 1: it looks like it's been pulled from a rom com.

438
00:17:40,554 --> 00:17:42,354
Speaker 1: Like if you told me she was filming, I would

439
00:17:42,434 --> 00:17:43,994
Speaker 1: believed a new big Like if you told me she

440
00:17:44,034 --> 00:17:45,754
Speaker 1: was like filming a no Efron movie or something, I'd

441
00:17:45,754 --> 00:17:47,394
Speaker 1: be like, yes, obviously. Yeah.

442
00:17:47,434 --> 00:17:50,994
Speaker 2: Another like very famous, very fashion famous woman who's been

443
00:17:51,034 --> 00:17:53,794
Speaker 2: talked about at the moment, Carolyn Bessett Kennedy, who obviously

444
00:17:53,914 --> 00:17:56,234
Speaker 2: like very different because hers was very like relaxed in

445
00:17:56,274 --> 00:17:58,674
Speaker 2: paper and all of those things. But the boat next

446
00:17:58,674 --> 00:18:01,714
Speaker 2: style and like just like the casual yet.

447
00:18:01,514 --> 00:18:05,154
Speaker 1: Beautifulness of it. Yes, yes, so clussy. So once someone

448
00:18:05,154 --> 00:18:07,754
Speaker 1: could dream one then he was just in a suit. Yes, Okay,

449
00:18:07,754 --> 00:18:09,114
Speaker 1: that's what I was gonna say. So once I devourt

450
00:18:09,154 --> 00:18:11,914
Speaker 1: all the pictures of her in the wintery streets, I

451
00:18:11,954 --> 00:18:14,313
Speaker 1: thought to myself. Now, look the wedding, you don't need

452
00:18:14,354 --> 00:18:15,874
Speaker 1: to know about the man, Like, he doesn't need to

453
00:18:15,874 --> 00:18:18,074
Speaker 1: be there. It doesn't really matter who he is. Like,

454
00:18:18,154 --> 00:18:19,914
Speaker 1: but I guess we should just say, for like historical

455
00:18:20,074 --> 00:18:21,594
Speaker 1: other people, who is that man?

456
00:18:21,874 --> 00:18:24,874
Speaker 2: That man Christian Lee Hudson going to repeat his name.

457
00:18:25,154 --> 00:18:28,754
Speaker 2: So apparently they met around or were first pictured around

458
00:18:28,794 --> 00:18:32,234
Speaker 2: February twenty twenty two. So he is also a singer songwriter.

459
00:18:32,274 --> 00:18:35,034
Speaker 2: If you don't know, Mayle Hawk also releases music. I

460
00:18:35,354 --> 00:18:37,434
Speaker 2: know that you know, Yeah, of course you would. She's

461
00:18:37,474 --> 00:18:40,194
Speaker 2: a cool Girl's a cool girl. She's got a very

462
00:18:40,194 --> 00:18:42,714
Speaker 2: cool album. Loved the song ter Rees, that's a great one.

463
00:18:42,994 --> 00:18:44,634
Speaker 2: And he used to be in a band and then

464
00:18:44,634 --> 00:18:46,874
Speaker 2: now he's a solo artist. He's previously like worked with

465
00:18:46,874 --> 00:18:47,834
Speaker 2: like Phoebe Bridges.

466
00:18:47,914 --> 00:18:49,314
Speaker 1: Do you think he got kicked out of the band.

467
00:18:49,514 --> 00:18:54,154
Speaker 1: I don't know, contra, Yeah, actually I just don't know

468
00:18:54,274 --> 00:18:56,354
Speaker 1: enough about him to like know the band. I think

469
00:18:56,394 --> 00:18:59,394
Speaker 1: he chose to leave from what I've seen, but also

470
00:18:59,714 --> 00:19:01,514
Speaker 1: who knows. There can be a drama there for sure.

471
00:19:01,714 --> 00:19:04,274
Speaker 1: But yeah, he used too with like Phoebe Bridges. He's

472
00:19:04,314 --> 00:19:08,194
Speaker 1: been featured on Mayers music before Yah it's just like

473
00:19:08,234 --> 00:19:12,154
Speaker 1: a nice guy. Okay, great, I'm going to get it.

474
00:19:12,194 --> 00:19:14,194
Speaker 1: Doesn't really we don't know too much.

475
00:19:14,354 --> 00:19:17,154
Speaker 2: But when Stranger Things season five came out, that's when

476
00:19:17,234 --> 00:19:19,714
Speaker 2: also like people started talking again about like are they engaged,

477
00:19:19,754 --> 00:19:22,033
Speaker 2: what's going on? People didn't They're quite low key as

478
00:19:22,034 --> 00:19:23,553
Speaker 2: a couple, even though she's on one of the biggest

479
00:19:23,554 --> 00:19:24,434
Speaker 2: shows in the world.

480
00:19:25,034 --> 00:19:26,994
Speaker 1: It's not like they're a couple that gets talked about

481
00:19:27,034 --> 00:19:29,434
Speaker 1: in the same way. I guess. Yeah, I guess people

482
00:19:29,434 --> 00:19:32,154
Speaker 1: feel like surprised today because a lot of people, like

483
00:19:32,194 --> 00:19:34,114
Speaker 1: I didn't even know she was dating someone or there

484
00:19:34,154 --> 00:19:36,513
Speaker 1: was again, you know, surprise wedding. It kind of just

485
00:19:36,514 --> 00:19:38,634
Speaker 1: feels like it came out of nowhere. Again, not for them.

486
00:19:39,034 --> 00:19:40,954
Speaker 1: That dress looks like it's been in a custom fitting

487
00:19:41,034 --> 00:19:43,513
Speaker 1: for over a year. But she never talks about him

488
00:19:43,514 --> 00:19:46,314
Speaker 1: in interviews that I've seen at all, or like mentions him.

489
00:19:46,634 --> 00:19:49,394
Speaker 1: They don't like walk red carpets together. I've never really

490
00:19:49,434 --> 00:19:51,793
Speaker 1: seen them post each other on socials or anything like that.

491
00:19:51,874 --> 00:19:53,553
Speaker 2: But all bits here and there, But it's not like

492
00:19:53,594 --> 00:19:55,074
Speaker 2: they're like a super public couple.

493
00:19:55,194 --> 00:19:57,394
Speaker 1: No, yeah, not like all those celebrity couples that like

494
00:19:57,474 --> 00:19:59,554
Speaker 1: hits over the head with their relationships. When you get married,

495
00:19:59,594 --> 00:20:01,394
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, yeahs.

496
00:20:00,794 --> 00:20:03,354
Speaker 2: Actually quite like her co stars like Natalia Dyer and

497
00:20:03,434 --> 00:20:06,034
Speaker 2: Charlie heat where like sometimes they'll be in a picture

498
00:20:06,034 --> 00:20:07,794
Speaker 2: together and then they won't post any thing of each

499
00:20:07,834 --> 00:20:10,354
Speaker 2: other because they're very private and rarely post anyway, same

500
00:20:10,394 --> 00:20:13,514
Speaker 2: as Maya like don't talk about their relationship that much publicly.

501
00:20:13,714 --> 00:20:16,514
Speaker 2: It's just like here we are, here, we are now

502
00:20:16,514 --> 00:20:19,794
Speaker 2: we're married, being famous, being famous. So obviously, yes they

503
00:20:19,794 --> 00:20:22,354
Speaker 2: got married. It's beautiful and like the guest List because

504
00:20:22,354 --> 00:20:25,154
Speaker 2: she is a celebrity, also star studed, also an EPO baby,

505
00:20:25,234 --> 00:20:28,074
Speaker 2: so her lovely parents who I do love dearly, Uma

506
00:20:28,074 --> 00:20:30,394
Speaker 2: Thurman and Ethan Hawk were obviously there. And there's like

507
00:20:30,434 --> 00:20:32,674
Speaker 2: a really beautiful photo of like Ethan walking arm in

508
00:20:32,794 --> 00:20:33,954
Speaker 2: arm with her down the street.

509
00:20:34,074 --> 00:20:37,674
Speaker 1: Yeah, that set me over the edge like nothing else.

510
00:20:37,794 --> 00:20:40,154
Speaker 1: Like I knew that they weren't like these toxic celeb

511
00:20:40,234 --> 00:20:42,793
Speaker 1: ex's who hated each other. Yeah, but I don't think

512
00:20:42,794 --> 00:20:46,434
Speaker 1: I've seen them together for like what decades, Yeah, not

513
00:20:46,514 --> 00:20:48,593
Speaker 1: that I've seen, And like I obviously like as a

514
00:20:48,594 --> 00:20:50,354
Speaker 1: fan of Maya, and also I do a lot for

515
00:20:50,434 --> 00:20:52,554
Speaker 1: parents as well, Like I watch a lot of her

516
00:20:52,634 --> 00:20:55,114
Speaker 1: interviews about them because she she doesn't really shy away

517
00:20:55,114 --> 00:20:56,834
Speaker 1: from being an effer baby. Like she's done a movie

518
00:20:56,834 --> 00:20:59,154
Speaker 1: with her dad, she speaks about his influence on her

519
00:20:59,234 --> 00:21:02,874
Speaker 1: artistically like they do talk about it. Okay, I know

520
00:21:03,194 --> 00:21:06,714
Speaker 1: everyone denies it a little bit. I'm of my hawk too,

521
00:21:06,794 --> 00:21:09,154
Speaker 1: and I think she's maybe curbed her the way she

522
00:21:09,194 --> 00:21:12,114
Speaker 1: spoke about because when she first started getting rolls, she

523
00:21:12,194 --> 00:21:14,194
Speaker 1: talked about the fact that her parents like had only

524
00:21:14,194 --> 00:21:15,634
Speaker 1: helped her in the way that they had talked to

525
00:21:15,674 --> 00:21:18,474
Speaker 1: her about creativity. But then when she auditioned for Once

526
00:21:18,554 --> 00:21:20,914
Speaker 1: upon a Time in Hollywood, she said she hugged Quentin

527
00:21:20,954 --> 00:21:23,674
Speaker 1: Tarantino afterwards, and he was like, good job, kid. I'm like, yeah,

528
00:21:23,674 --> 00:21:26,434
Speaker 1: because he's practically I mean, he's weirdly because your mom.

529
00:21:26,754 --> 00:21:30,034
Speaker 1: He's also like your kind of your weird stepfather, obsessed

530
00:21:30,234 --> 00:21:32,914
Speaker 1: with your mum's feet, but also kind of a father figure.

531
00:21:34,594 --> 00:21:37,313
Speaker 1: Very creepy. No, it's only a Hollywood life could be.

532
00:21:37,394 --> 00:21:39,553
Speaker 1: But not many people go into their first big audition

533
00:21:39,634 --> 00:21:41,714
Speaker 1: and have the movie director hug them and tell them

534
00:21:41,754 --> 00:21:44,034
Speaker 1: they did a good job and potentially kind of give

535
00:21:44,074 --> 00:21:45,714
Speaker 1: them a bit of a not even a bit of

536
00:21:45,714 --> 00:21:47,754
Speaker 1: a like completely give them a leg into the industry,

537
00:21:47,874 --> 00:21:50,194
Speaker 1: but always like, don't take your shoes off.

538
00:21:50,234 --> 00:21:54,514
Speaker 2: Okay, I like a huge that's fine, but she doesn't

539
00:21:54,554 --> 00:21:56,354
Speaker 2: seen her and come around a bit more now to

540
00:21:56,434 --> 00:21:57,714
Speaker 2: like acknowledging and.

541
00:21:57,674 --> 00:21:59,514
Speaker 1: We love her in stranger things and if someone comes

542
00:21:59,514 --> 00:22:01,394
Speaker 1: on and creates a character I love. I don't care

543
00:22:01,714 --> 00:22:03,674
Speaker 1: who their parents are, truly don't if they're good at

544
00:22:03,714 --> 00:22:07,394
Speaker 1: their job, kind of care who her parents are just

545
00:22:07,434 --> 00:22:09,634
Speaker 1: because of their crazy love story. So if anyone's on

546
00:22:09,674 --> 00:22:12,394
Speaker 1: a cross in the Thermon and Ethan Hawke both huge,

547
00:22:12,474 --> 00:22:16,034
Speaker 1: huge movie stars, especially in the like the nineties, early

548
00:22:16,074 --> 00:22:18,354
Speaker 1: two thousands, but they met on the set of the

549
00:22:18,434 --> 00:22:21,114
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven movie Gataka. Who's seen Gaheka? I haven't

550
00:22:21,114 --> 00:22:24,674
Speaker 1: seen Gataka. No, it's a great movie. Okay, ten out

551
00:22:24,674 --> 00:22:26,313
Speaker 1: of ten, you didn't watch that in science class when

552
00:22:26,354 --> 00:22:27,954
Speaker 1: New year ten we went to different schools.

553
00:22:27,994 --> 00:22:30,553
Speaker 2: We did go to different schools. My science class was

554
00:22:30,554 --> 00:22:31,513
Speaker 2: not showing me a film.

555
00:22:32,114 --> 00:22:34,834
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a Hollywood version of cells and it's

556
00:22:34,874 --> 00:22:37,394
Speaker 1: like them going into space. But they have to like,

557
00:22:37,394 --> 00:22:40,234
Speaker 1: like I vaguely yes, go watch Guttiger. Don't go off

558
00:22:40,274 --> 00:22:42,714
Speaker 1: that example, because that was terrible, but they fell like

559
00:22:42,914 --> 00:22:45,593
Speaker 1: head over heels in love. And Ethan Hawke when he

560
00:22:45,634 --> 00:22:47,514
Speaker 1: was asked about their romance at the time, he said

561
00:22:47,514 --> 00:22:49,114
Speaker 1: to a reporter, I think it was like for GQ

562
00:22:49,394 --> 00:22:51,674
Speaker 1: phrase the cover story to promote the movie. He was like,

563
00:22:51,834 --> 00:22:54,234
Speaker 1: have you ever played Spin the Bottle? Because there's a

564
00:22:54,234 --> 00:22:57,314
Speaker 1: certain intimacy at work that we do and it's such

565
00:22:57,314 --> 00:23:00,274
Speaker 1: a high. It feels dangerous and thrilling, and it turns

566
00:23:00,314 --> 00:23:02,354
Speaker 1: up the temperature in your life and it's like falling

567
00:23:02,354 --> 00:23:04,474
Speaker 1: in love at summer camp and there's no connection. So

568
00:23:04,594 --> 00:23:07,994
Speaker 1: basically like they had this torrid romance, got married, they

569
00:23:07,994 --> 00:23:10,354
Speaker 1: had two kids, one of them is Maya and their

570
00:23:10,394 --> 00:23:12,954
Speaker 1: other son Levin. Yeah, and it was also obviously at

571
00:23:12,954 --> 00:23:17,314
Speaker 1: the wedding looking and so were their other sisters because

572
00:23:17,314 --> 00:23:20,234
Speaker 1: I think she's also got three half sisters. And this

573
00:23:20,274 --> 00:23:23,914
Speaker 1: is because Uma Thurman and Ethan Hawke broke up in

574
00:23:23,954 --> 00:23:27,234
Speaker 1: two thousand and three, and there were all of these

575
00:23:27,514 --> 00:23:29,754
Speaker 1: stories at the time because this was like peak peak

576
00:23:29,914 --> 00:23:34,234
Speaker 1: tabloid culture that he had been having an affair with

577
00:23:34,274 --> 00:23:37,674
Speaker 1: the couple's nanny, which is a very late nineties early

578
00:23:37,714 --> 00:23:40,154
Speaker 1: two thousands thing. The Jude law of it all, you know,

579
00:23:42,034 --> 00:23:43,714
Speaker 1: I'm sure it happens now, but just then it was

580
00:23:43,794 --> 00:23:45,794
Speaker 1: like and also there were so many stories. Every time

581
00:23:45,834 --> 00:23:49,154
Speaker 1: you saw a hot young Hollywood couple getting trailed through

582
00:23:49,154 --> 00:23:50,714
Speaker 1: the streets, there was always a nanny with them. There

583
00:23:50,794 --> 00:23:53,714
Speaker 1: was always a story that the famous dad was getting

584
00:23:53,754 --> 00:23:56,554
Speaker 1: together with the nanny. At the time when Umer and

585
00:23:56,714 --> 00:23:59,674
Speaker 1: Ethan broke up, he denied Ryan's her name, that nanny.

586
00:23:59,954 --> 00:24:01,994
Speaker 1: That's really burnt into my brain because there was like

587
00:24:02,034 --> 00:24:04,114
Speaker 1: pictures of him out with the kids a lot as well,

588
00:24:04,274 --> 00:24:06,394
Speaker 1: and there were all of these stories that they were

589
00:24:06,394 --> 00:24:08,594
Speaker 1: having an affair and Uma had like come home and

590
00:24:08,634 --> 00:24:11,593
Speaker 1: found them together, and that like they had been sleeping

591
00:24:11,594 --> 00:24:13,674
Speaker 1: together for a long time. All of these crazy stories

592
00:24:13,954 --> 00:24:16,234
Speaker 1: which will never know exactly what happened. But what we

593
00:24:16,314 --> 00:24:19,434
Speaker 1: do know is that after Ethan and Uma divorced, he

594
00:24:19,634 --> 00:24:22,874
Speaker 1: started dating Ryan than nanny now not the nanny. Yeah,

595
00:24:22,874 --> 00:24:25,994
Speaker 1: and then they got married and then they have children together.

596
00:24:26,074 --> 00:24:29,754
Speaker 1: Now they're still together. That's like deeply shocking celebrity behavior.

597
00:24:30,034 --> 00:24:30,274
Speaker 2: Yeah.

598
00:24:30,354 --> 00:24:32,154
Speaker 1: I mean again, maybe not the time. It was I

599
00:24:32,234 --> 00:24:34,674
Speaker 1: think shocking at the time when he came out and said, like,

600
00:24:35,234 --> 00:24:37,353
Speaker 1: I wasn't dating the nanny, I'm dating the nanny. Now

601
00:24:37,394 --> 00:24:39,674
Speaker 1: I wasn't before, but I am now, and I guess

602
00:24:39,674 --> 00:24:41,434
Speaker 1: there's no way for us to say whether that's true

603
00:24:41,474 --> 00:24:43,674
Speaker 1: or not. But then they went on to have kids together,

604
00:24:43,754 --> 00:24:46,274
Speaker 1: and then Uma later on had another daughter as well,

605
00:24:46,354 --> 00:24:48,354
Speaker 1: who And I think they were all the girls with

606
00:24:48,394 --> 00:24:50,914
Speaker 1: the flowers on their heads walking behind her, which is

607
00:24:51,034 --> 00:24:54,354
Speaker 1: very sweet. Yeah, but yeah, they had a crazy Hollywood

608
00:24:54,354 --> 00:24:56,634
Speaker 1: love story. And so seeing them walk arm in arm

609
00:24:56,674 --> 00:24:59,634
Speaker 1: to their daughter's wedding was I think a very important

610
00:24:59,634 --> 00:25:02,394
Speaker 1: pop culture moment that like deserved a minute of silence. Yeah.

611
00:25:02,394 --> 00:25:05,553
Speaker 2: Absolutely so, Like I obviously was a child when that happened.

612
00:25:05,674 --> 00:25:07,593
Speaker 1: Okay, I was a child too, I know you were,

613
00:25:07,994 --> 00:25:11,754
Speaker 1: But I just like to get the tabloids from I used.

614
00:25:11,594 --> 00:25:13,074
Speaker 2: To read them all the time. I was obsessed with

615
00:25:13,114 --> 00:25:14,754
Speaker 2: celebrity gossip when I was a little kid. I know

616
00:25:14,834 --> 00:25:15,834
Speaker 2: so many things in that time.

617
00:25:15,954 --> 00:25:19,474
Speaker 1: I know anything weirdly evaded me. I don't know this. Also,

618
00:25:19,554 --> 00:25:21,594
Speaker 1: my childhood brain at the time could not I mean

619
00:25:21,754 --> 00:25:24,114
Speaker 1: I still struggle with this fact from fiction. So when

620
00:25:24,154 --> 00:25:25,594
Speaker 1: I saw that on the front of like New Idea

621
00:25:25,634 --> 00:25:27,794
Speaker 1: and WHO, and that was like peak those magazines. And

622
00:25:27,794 --> 00:25:30,474
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they just ran whatever they wanted, and

623
00:25:30,514 --> 00:25:32,874
Speaker 1: they had the photos to back it up, the crazy photos.

624
00:25:32,914 --> 00:25:35,593
Speaker 1: So it was Yeah, it was like a huge tabloid storm.

625
00:25:35,954 --> 00:25:38,674
Speaker 1: And Uma Thurman has been asked about it so many times,

626
00:25:38,914 --> 00:25:40,554
Speaker 1: and every time she gets asked about it, she never

627
00:25:40,554 --> 00:25:42,674
Speaker 1: goes into details, and she always says, I will never

628
00:25:42,714 --> 00:25:44,714
Speaker 1: say a bad thing about the father of my children.

629
00:25:45,954 --> 00:25:48,674
Speaker 1: Oh so classy. I can't I don't imagine being like that,

630
00:25:48,834 --> 00:25:52,394
Speaker 1: like the restraint that that would take. When this all

631
00:25:52,474 --> 00:25:54,874
Speaker 1: played out very publicly and for a while there she

632
00:25:54,994 --> 00:25:57,674
Speaker 1: was seen as like a scorned woman and also Ethan

633
00:25:57,714 --> 00:26:00,234
Speaker 1: hawk around then got nominated for an OSCAR for training

634
00:26:00,314 --> 00:26:03,194
Speaker 1: day and he talked about the fact that his marriage

635
00:26:03,234 --> 00:26:04,954
Speaker 1: was breaking down and he's like, it should have been

636
00:26:04,994 --> 00:26:06,793
Speaker 1: the best moment of my life and my career, but

637
00:26:06,794 --> 00:26:09,033
Speaker 1: instead it was kind of ruined by this thing that

638
00:26:09,074 --> 00:26:11,194
Speaker 1: was happening behind the scenes in my marriage. Then people

639
00:26:11,274 --> 00:26:13,674
Speaker 1: also blaming Uma actually had ruined his moment. There was

640
00:26:13,714 --> 00:26:16,114
Speaker 1: a whole thing. Yeah, it was a whole thing. That's

641
00:26:16,154 --> 00:26:18,914
Speaker 1: crazy not to turn their daughter's beautiful wedding day. But

642
00:26:19,234 --> 00:26:21,634
Speaker 1: it's so nice to actually see them together and like

643
00:26:21,674 --> 00:26:24,994
Speaker 1: to see them walking into those snowy streets of New

644
00:26:25,074 --> 00:26:28,394
Speaker 1: York into Yeah, it's just like it's like the pop

645
00:26:28,434 --> 00:26:31,474
Speaker 1: culture circle came all came back, circle came back around.

646
00:26:31,194 --> 00:26:32,994
Speaker 2: Because yeah, I started deep diving on this as soon

647
00:26:33,034 --> 00:26:35,074
Speaker 2: as you tell me, and now I'm just like flabbergasted

648
00:26:35,114 --> 00:26:37,914
Speaker 2: and shocked because they go, yeah, as well as like

649
00:26:37,914 --> 00:26:39,594
Speaker 2: the fact that it's just I know that he's denied

650
00:26:39,634 --> 00:26:41,314
Speaker 2: that anything happened, and like you said, we can never

651
00:26:41,354 --> 00:26:43,674
Speaker 2: know that for realsies. But he's like, by the time

652
00:26:43,714 --> 00:26:45,793
Speaker 2: we started dating, he says, I hadn't it been a

653
00:26:45,794 --> 00:26:46,994
Speaker 2: while since I employed her.

654
00:26:47,794 --> 00:26:51,274
Speaker 1: Still a little bit intriguing. Even again, I don't also

655
00:26:51,314 --> 00:26:54,074
Speaker 1: think that's ever been proven because my again, I'm just

656
00:26:54,114 --> 00:26:56,434
Speaker 1: going off tableaud photos. That's not very pictures of them.

657
00:26:56,474 --> 00:26:58,794
Speaker 1: There were pictures of her still like nannying the kids

658
00:26:58,794 --> 00:27:00,793
Speaker 1: and stuff while they were going through the divorce. And

659
00:27:00,794 --> 00:27:03,354
Speaker 1: then there's pictures of them like him and her hand

660
00:27:03,394 --> 00:27:05,314
Speaker 1: in hand in a park like with the kids, which

661
00:27:05,354 --> 00:27:08,914
Speaker 1: was kind of there like on a official announcement situation,

662
00:27:09,194 --> 00:27:10,354
Speaker 1: so so silatious.

663
00:27:10,354 --> 00:27:12,994
Speaker 2: So to turn that around to both being so so

664
00:27:13,234 --> 00:27:15,434
Speaker 2: like classy Uma, My god, I didn't know what that

665
00:27:15,554 --> 00:27:18,954
Speaker 2: deva was working with, Like what girl, I mean like

666
00:27:18,994 --> 00:27:21,794
Speaker 2: I love her, but weirdly, they're the only celebrities.

667
00:27:21,794 --> 00:27:24,394
Speaker 1: Apparently I didn't care to investigate her. Chill now now,

668
00:27:24,594 --> 00:27:26,514
Speaker 1: like I need to know. Now their daughter's beautiful wedding

669
00:27:26,554 --> 00:27:28,074
Speaker 1: day has just brought that up.

670
00:27:28,074 --> 00:27:30,154
Speaker 2: Has brought it up. But yeah, so obviously they were

671
00:27:30,194 --> 00:27:32,794
Speaker 2: there together. You know what I'd love to be what

672
00:27:32,954 --> 00:27:35,754
Speaker 2: a fly on the wall, shocking wedding. I'd love to

673
00:27:35,754 --> 00:27:38,394
Speaker 2: hear their speeches. I just think like Ethan Hawk delivers

674
00:27:38,474 --> 00:27:41,274
Speaker 2: really good speeches. Yeah, he has the most interesting things

675
00:27:41,274 --> 00:27:43,674
Speaker 2: to say about like art and his family and all

676
00:27:43,754 --> 00:27:45,513
Speaker 2: kinds of things. Can you imagine the beautiful speech she

677
00:27:45,514 --> 00:27:47,314
Speaker 2: would have given on if I could be.

678
00:27:47,314 --> 00:27:49,034
Speaker 1: At a celebrity wedding, don't. I don't know if that's

679
00:27:49,034 --> 00:27:50,834
Speaker 1: the only one I'd picked. But you're a much nicer

680
00:27:50,874 --> 00:27:52,554
Speaker 1: person than me. You just want to hear a beautiful vow.

681
00:27:53,074 --> 00:27:55,954
Speaker 1: I don't know, something scandalous like Jennifer and Ben when

682
00:27:55,954 --> 00:27:59,553
Speaker 1: they were getting filmed deleted obviously the wedding Harry and

683
00:27:59,594 --> 00:28:02,314
Speaker 1: Meghan's wedding for like I was happening. I just want

684
00:28:02,314 --> 00:28:03,954
Speaker 1: to see a fight. But you're a better person than me.

685
00:28:04,314 --> 00:28:05,394
Speaker 1: Well that's so true.

686
00:28:05,514 --> 00:28:09,273
Speaker 2: Everyone's talking but obviously outside of the parents, there was

687
00:28:09,314 --> 00:28:11,354
Speaker 2: also the Stranger Things cast, well some of the Stranger

688
00:28:11,394 --> 00:28:14,033
Speaker 2: Things cast, So one drama that came up today was

689
00:28:14,114 --> 00:28:16,313
Speaker 2: the backstory of Huber and Ethan. But the other the

690
00:28:16,314 --> 00:28:18,394
Speaker 2: people are talking about is like who isn't isn't there?

691
00:28:18,794 --> 00:28:23,474
Speaker 2: So Finn Wolfhard, Gayton Matterazzo, Caleb McLachlan, Sadie Sink, Natalia Dayer,

692
00:28:23,634 --> 00:28:26,154
Speaker 2: Charlie Heaton, and Joe Kiery are reported as all having

693
00:28:26,234 --> 00:28:27,794
Speaker 2: been there, and we've seen a couple of photos of

694
00:28:27,834 --> 00:28:28,434
Speaker 2: them this morning.

695
00:28:28,474 --> 00:28:30,354
Speaker 1: It only matters that Joe Kiery was there, right, It

696
00:28:30,394 --> 00:28:32,354
Speaker 1: matters so much to me that he was there just

697
00:28:32,354 --> 00:28:34,714
Speaker 1: because of their friendship on Stranger Things is the thing

698
00:28:34,794 --> 00:28:36,514
Speaker 1: that fans would care the most. Absolutely.

699
00:28:36,594 --> 00:28:38,394
Speaker 2: I care so much that he was there to support

700
00:28:38,394 --> 00:28:40,554
Speaker 2: her on her big day. And it's nice, like, yeah,

701
00:28:40,594 --> 00:28:42,834
Speaker 2: the adult four were there to support her on her

702
00:28:42,834 --> 00:28:44,994
Speaker 2: big day and some of the kids as well. Obviously

703
00:28:45,034 --> 00:28:48,034
Speaker 2: people are like, where's Millie, Where's Noah, where's the you know,

704
00:28:48,034 --> 00:28:51,154
Speaker 2: Wenna of it all? But Millie's waiting to Jake bon Jovi, like,

705
00:28:51,234 --> 00:28:54,754
Speaker 2: only Matthew Modine who plays Papa, was there and it

706
00:28:54,834 --> 00:28:57,474
Speaker 2: was the celebrant and he's see now that I think

707
00:28:57,474 --> 00:28:59,554
Speaker 2: about it, right, Like, so you know, at the end

708
00:28:59,554 --> 00:29:01,834
Speaker 2: of the day, sometimes stranger things stars are just coworkers,

709
00:29:02,194 --> 00:29:05,154
Speaker 2: and that's sad for fans. But like, it looks like

710
00:29:05,194 --> 00:29:06,634
Speaker 2: a lot of her costars were there and they were

711
00:29:06,634 --> 00:29:08,554
Speaker 2: happy to be and they love her and support her,

712
00:29:08,634 --> 00:29:10,674
Speaker 2: and who knows why the others weren't there.

713
00:29:10,834 --> 00:29:12,834
Speaker 1: Yeah, I say it, maybe they were busy. Who I'm

714
00:29:12,834 --> 00:29:14,714
Speaker 1: going to say when Noah was definitely invited because they're

715
00:29:14,714 --> 00:29:16,994
Speaker 1: obsessed with her, and fairly so she must have been busy.

716
00:29:17,314 --> 00:29:19,194
Speaker 1: David Harbor, as we know, is kind of having a

717
00:29:19,194 --> 00:29:21,514
Speaker 1: nervous breakdown right now. I don't say that lightly. He

718
00:29:21,594 --> 00:29:23,914
Speaker 1: just pulled out of filming a movie like mid movie,

719
00:29:24,034 --> 00:29:26,354
Speaker 1: pulled out of all his press, like gone to ground.

720
00:29:26,434 --> 00:29:29,394
Speaker 1: So something's happening there. So that's fair enough that he

721
00:29:29,434 --> 00:29:32,474
Speaker 1: wasn't there. Yeah, And like Maya has spoken so much

722
00:29:32,474 --> 00:29:34,114
Speaker 1: in the last press round about how much she loved

723
00:29:34,114 --> 00:29:36,274
Speaker 1: actually getting to work with Noah this time around. So

724
00:29:36,274 --> 00:29:38,914
Speaker 1: I'm willing to bet some you know, someone came up

725
00:29:38,914 --> 00:29:41,474
Speaker 1: who could say, maybe he had Valentine's Day plans, Maybe

726
00:29:41,514 --> 00:29:43,274
Speaker 1: maybe he got stuck in the snow. Yeah, maybe it

727
00:29:43,314 --> 00:29:47,354
Speaker 1: was a surprise wedding after all. Okay, on to some

728
00:29:47,474 --> 00:29:50,274
Speaker 1: Britney Spears news. It has broken over the last couple

729
00:29:50,314 --> 00:29:51,994
Speaker 1: of days, and that is the fact that she has

730
00:29:52,034 --> 00:29:56,514
Speaker 1: sold her entire music catalog to an independent music publisher

731
00:29:56,554 --> 00:30:00,274
Speaker 1: called Primary Wave for around one hundred and forty six

732
00:30:00,474 --> 00:30:04,154
Speaker 1: million dollars. That's in pounds two hundred million apparently in

733
00:30:04,314 --> 00:30:06,634
Speaker 1: it will put it into your own currency. Yeah, a

734
00:30:07,194 --> 00:30:09,314
Speaker 1: huge amount of money. But when I looked at that,

735
00:30:09,354 --> 00:30:11,674
Speaker 1: I thought not enough. Well, I thought, can you put

736
00:30:11,674 --> 00:30:14,474
Speaker 1: a price on the Britney Spears back catalog of music,

737
00:30:14,634 --> 00:30:17,474
Speaker 1: like all the incredible songs, all the pop hits, all

738
00:30:17,514 --> 00:30:20,114
Speaker 1: the chart topping albums, like she is one of the

739
00:30:20,114 --> 00:30:22,314
Speaker 1: most successful artists of all times and not just like

740
00:30:22,394 --> 00:30:26,154
Speaker 1: pop artist female artists, just artists in music makers of

741
00:30:26,274 --> 00:30:29,834
Speaker 1: all time, and to sell her music catalog, to sell

742
00:30:29,834 --> 00:30:31,634
Speaker 1: all the rights to it, obviously she got a huge

743
00:30:31,634 --> 00:30:33,874
Speaker 1: amount of money, but it is a pretty big day

744
00:30:33,874 --> 00:30:37,394
Speaker 1: in the music industry. And I don't think it was enough. Yeah, no,

745
00:30:37,434 --> 00:30:39,474
Speaker 1: I'm going I don't even think that's a hot take.

746
00:30:39,554 --> 00:30:41,394
Speaker 2: I don't think that anyone should be giving her that

747
00:30:41,474 --> 00:30:43,594
Speaker 2: little for the catalog that she has.

748
00:30:43,794 --> 00:30:45,234
Speaker 1: Well, I also think maybe that should have been the

749
00:30:45,234 --> 00:30:47,594
Speaker 1: cost of baby one more time, but not all of them. Yes,

750
00:30:47,794 --> 00:30:50,474
Speaker 1: so Primary Wave who bought it are obviously thinking that

751
00:30:50,514 --> 00:30:53,034
Speaker 1: they're maybe just gonna lay low because they have not

752
00:30:53,074 --> 00:30:56,794
Speaker 1: been responding to any request to comment. Obviously they're getting

753
00:30:56,914 --> 00:31:00,434
Speaker 1: an influx of questions from media. Also, Britney Spears hasn't

754
00:31:00,434 --> 00:31:02,834
Speaker 1: spoken on it because she allegedly sold it like the

755
00:31:02,954 --> 00:31:05,674
Speaker 1: end of last year, right, but it's just coming out now, Yeah,

756
00:31:05,714 --> 00:31:08,754
Speaker 1: like something about like the company being made public. You

757
00:31:08,834 --> 00:31:12,074
Speaker 1: how that stuff always reservices apparently, though this same company

758
00:31:12,154 --> 00:31:16,234
Speaker 1: has also acquired the rights to Prince and Whitney Houston.

759
00:31:16,474 --> 00:31:19,354
Speaker 1: So really in the music buying, yes.

760
00:31:19,274 --> 00:31:22,954
Speaker 2: Okay, it obviously is profitable. But then also like okay,

761
00:31:22,994 --> 00:31:25,074
Speaker 2: so Brittany, and we'll get into this, like probably not

762
00:31:25,114 --> 00:31:27,874
Speaker 2: going to release any new music, I think when she's

763
00:31:27,874 --> 00:31:30,314
Speaker 2: also said it too, she's said it when someone does,

764
00:31:30,434 --> 00:31:33,154
Speaker 2: like say, like Justin Bieber sold his music that catalog.

765
00:31:33,234 --> 00:31:35,074
Speaker 2: Are you also selling the rights to your future No,

766
00:31:35,194 --> 00:31:37,634
Speaker 2: you're just selling the rights to the music that you.

767
00:31:37,714 --> 00:31:40,954
Speaker 1: Have previously released. Yes, yes, so it's not like no,

768
00:31:41,034 --> 00:31:42,794
Speaker 1: I'm sure she could. I mean, obviously we don't know

769
00:31:42,834 --> 00:31:44,834
Speaker 1: the exact ins and outs of this contract. From what

770
00:31:44,834 --> 00:31:46,794
Speaker 1: I understand from selling your back catalog is that you

771
00:31:46,794 --> 00:31:49,834
Speaker 1: were selling the rights that music. You're selling the usage

772
00:31:49,954 --> 00:31:51,914
Speaker 1: you're selling like who can re record it, who can

773
00:31:52,034 --> 00:31:54,514
Speaker 1: use it for like movies and TV shows, and like

774
00:31:54,674 --> 00:31:56,794
Speaker 1: who can use the lyrics and who can even use

775
00:31:56,834 --> 00:31:58,914
Speaker 1: like if you've copyrighted like the name and all that.

776
00:31:58,914 --> 00:32:01,394
Speaker 1: Sort of Basically you sell the entire thing. It doesn't

777
00:32:01,434 --> 00:32:03,794
Speaker 1: mean that you can't go and make new music. I

778
00:32:03,834 --> 00:32:05,834
Speaker 1: think in some cases also means that you would have

779
00:32:05,914 --> 00:32:08,474
Speaker 1: to pay to perform your own songs if you're getting

780
00:32:08,474 --> 00:32:10,234
Speaker 1: paid for it and a copyright thing, but you can

781
00:32:10,394 --> 00:32:12,914
Speaker 1: just sing it live. It's a whole backstory.

782
00:32:12,514 --> 00:32:14,314
Speaker 2: Because that was part of the thing. I remember when

783
00:32:14,354 --> 00:32:16,954
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift won I don't know if they call it

784
00:32:16,994 --> 00:32:21,834
Speaker 2: the Vanguard Award, but when she went to do her performance,

785
00:32:21,874 --> 00:32:23,314
Speaker 2: part of the issue was that they didn't want to

786
00:32:23,354 --> 00:32:26,154
Speaker 2: let her perform because Scooter Braun had obviously like ownership

787
00:32:26,234 --> 00:32:29,154
Speaker 2: of her music, her past catalog. They didn't want her

788
00:32:29,194 --> 00:32:31,754
Speaker 2: to perform parts of her songs without her either like

789
00:32:31,794 --> 00:32:33,914
Speaker 2: paying for it or negotiating with them over it.

790
00:32:33,994 --> 00:32:36,354
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, crazy, it's your song, but you turn over

791
00:32:36,354 --> 00:32:38,314
Speaker 1: the rights to it. So now if Britney Spears wanted

792
00:32:38,354 --> 00:32:41,194
Speaker 1: to go and do world too or anything like that,

793
00:32:41,314 --> 00:32:43,394
Speaker 1: or performing of her hits, she would have to I'm

794
00:32:43,394 --> 00:32:46,874
Speaker 1: assuming pay usage rights or get permission. So which is

795
00:32:46,914 --> 00:32:49,834
Speaker 1: again why Taylor Swift did the whole re recording to

796
00:32:49,954 --> 00:32:51,834
Speaker 1: be able to own her music again. I can't see

797
00:32:51,834 --> 00:32:53,994
Speaker 1: Britney Spears doing that. But also she's been really open

798
00:32:53,994 --> 00:32:56,154
Speaker 1: about the fact that she's done with music. She doesn't

799
00:32:56,154 --> 00:32:58,434
Speaker 1: want to perform anymore, she doesn't want to choose, so

800
00:32:58,514 --> 00:33:02,514
Speaker 1: she'd never perform again in the US, right and fair enough.

801
00:33:03,114 --> 00:33:04,594
Speaker 1: Like if I could have one thing, it would be

802
00:33:04,634 --> 00:33:07,434
Speaker 1: to see Britney Spears like live and concert. But Britney

803
00:33:07,434 --> 00:33:10,674
Speaker 1: Spears not when she was being like held prisoner in

804
00:33:10,674 --> 00:33:13,874
Speaker 1: that Las Vegas residency and like pushed out on stage

805
00:33:13,954 --> 00:33:16,754
Speaker 1: like out of her mind, didn't know where she was. Oh,

806
00:33:16,794 --> 00:33:19,114
Speaker 1: this is all her own words now hearing as someone

807
00:33:19,114 --> 00:33:22,674
Speaker 1: who devoured her audiobook read by Michelle Williams, I'm very

808
00:33:22,674 --> 00:33:25,834
Speaker 1: across the situation. I mean, peekue Britney when she was

809
00:33:25,834 --> 00:33:28,554
Speaker 1: like choosing to be there and like one of the

810
00:33:28,554 --> 00:33:31,634
Speaker 1: greatest performers of all time, but now I think she's

811
00:33:31,674 --> 00:33:34,794
Speaker 1: just been like so broken by the industry, so broken

812
00:33:34,834 --> 00:33:37,874
Speaker 1: by like her family and her personal life, so broken

813
00:33:37,914 --> 00:33:40,634
Speaker 1: by being in that conservative ship for over a decade.

814
00:33:41,234 --> 00:33:43,314
Speaker 1: That and we've talked about this before. When she came

815
00:33:43,354 --> 00:33:45,714
Speaker 1: out of the Conservative ship, a lot of people thought

816
00:33:45,754 --> 00:33:47,354
Speaker 1: it would be kind of like a fairy tale, like

817
00:33:47,394 --> 00:33:49,714
Speaker 1: a princess being led out of a castle, and that

818
00:33:49,954 --> 00:33:51,754
Speaker 1: a switch would flip and she would just go back

819
00:33:51,794 --> 00:33:53,474
Speaker 1: to being the old Britney Spears and she'd be on

820
00:33:53,514 --> 00:33:56,794
Speaker 1: stage tearing, and she'd be posting a very like Instagram

821
00:33:56,874 --> 00:33:59,554
Speaker 1: friendly life, and she'd be doing press tours and things,

822
00:33:59,874 --> 00:34:01,914
Speaker 1: and a lot of people kind of I think have

823
00:34:01,994 --> 00:34:04,794
Speaker 1: sort of dropped away from the free Britney Spears cause

824
00:34:04,874 --> 00:34:07,794
Speaker 1: now because the reality of what they which is her

825
00:34:07,834 --> 00:34:11,114
Speaker 1: locked up in her home a lot, posting rambling videos

826
00:34:11,234 --> 00:34:14,393
Speaker 1: or having like big fights with her family, with her

827
00:34:14,433 --> 00:34:17,514
Speaker 1: sister Jamie Lyne, author, with her ex husband Kevin Fedline,

828
00:34:17,554 --> 00:34:20,354
Speaker 1: who released a book about her. It's been a very

829
00:34:20,434 --> 00:34:24,074
Speaker 1: messy situation. And so when this situation came to a

830
00:34:24,114 --> 00:34:26,514
Speaker 1: head of people finding out that she sold her music catalog,

831
00:34:26,794 --> 00:34:28,393
Speaker 1: it was kind of like this final nail in the

832
00:34:28,394 --> 00:34:30,553
Speaker 1: coffin of like we're not going to see Britney Spears again.

833
00:34:30,834 --> 00:34:34,393
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean I would love nothing more obviously

834
00:34:34,634 --> 00:34:36,914
Speaker 2: than to have had the chance to go see Britney

835
00:34:36,954 --> 00:34:40,554
Speaker 2: Spears perform like in the early two thousands or late nineties,

836
00:34:40,594 --> 00:34:42,554
Speaker 2: like when it was still a gas to an extent

837
00:34:42,634 --> 00:34:44,953
Speaker 2: her own creative direction and decision to be doing it.

838
00:34:45,074 --> 00:34:47,473
Speaker 2: But I also just now would love nothing more than

839
00:34:47,474 --> 00:34:50,873
Speaker 2: to see Brittany like take this money and like disappear

840
00:34:50,954 --> 00:34:53,433
Speaker 2: a bit and like live a life or figure out

841
00:34:53,794 --> 00:34:55,954
Speaker 2: how she wants to live her life. Like I just think,

842
00:34:56,394 --> 00:34:58,034
Speaker 2: like you said, it obviously dropped off a bit where

843
00:34:58,034 --> 00:34:59,834
Speaker 2: people thought she was just going to suddenly be like

844
00:35:00,034 --> 00:35:02,554
Speaker 2: quote unquote the old Brittany again after being in a

845
00:35:02,594 --> 00:35:05,554
Speaker 2: conservative ship, and it's like I think people maybe discounted

846
00:35:05,594 --> 00:35:08,554
Speaker 2: how damaging the last twenty of her life was to her.

847
00:35:08,874 --> 00:35:10,834
Speaker 2: And now I just want to see her happy or

848
00:35:10,874 --> 00:35:12,874
Speaker 2: not see her, like yes, let the girl be happy.

849
00:35:12,954 --> 00:35:14,834
Speaker 2: I mean not seeing her would be the dream.

850
00:35:14,834 --> 00:35:16,714
Speaker 1: And I say that as a fan because I think

851
00:35:16,754 --> 00:35:19,674
Speaker 1: one of the saddest things about this whole Britney Spears

852
00:35:19,714 --> 00:35:21,994
Speaker 1: career moment where we find ourselves in and where we

853
00:35:22,034 --> 00:35:24,473
Speaker 1: find her selling her music and not touring. Is that

854
00:35:24,874 --> 00:35:27,114
Speaker 1: coming across from how she speaks. It feels like she's

855
00:35:27,114 --> 00:35:31,234
Speaker 1: given up a lot of the fame, the performance, the

856
00:35:31,274 --> 00:35:35,314
Speaker 1: cachet of her name for privacy. But because she's done that,

857
00:35:35,394 --> 00:35:38,514
Speaker 1: now she's getting less privacy than she had before, because

858
00:35:38,714 --> 00:35:41,034
Speaker 1: in the same last two weeks, this information has come

859
00:35:41,074 --> 00:35:44,314
Speaker 1: out about she's selling her music, that she's made this deal,

860
00:35:44,354 --> 00:35:47,554
Speaker 1: she's taken this money. She's also being followed by paparazzi

861
00:35:47,634 --> 00:35:50,594
Speaker 1: so much. There's photos of her driving in her car

862
00:35:50,674 --> 00:35:53,154
Speaker 1: and like answering the phone and doing other things that

863
00:35:53,194 --> 00:35:55,754
Speaker 1: could be perceived as illegal, and so those are being

864
00:35:55,794 --> 00:35:58,194
Speaker 1: blown up and people are saying, like, now she's gone

865
00:35:58,194 --> 00:36:00,513
Speaker 1: off the rails again, she's a danger to herself because

866
00:36:00,514 --> 00:36:04,033
Speaker 1: they're pulling all of these past examples when she first

867
00:36:04,034 --> 00:36:06,954
Speaker 1: started going through the public breakdown and she jumped in

868
00:36:06,994 --> 00:36:09,234
Speaker 1: the with her son on her lap, which she later

869
00:36:09,274 --> 00:36:11,913
Speaker 1: said she only did because she was like fearing for

870
00:36:11,954 --> 00:36:14,554
Speaker 1: his safety because she was getting chased by paparazzi. But

871
00:36:14,594 --> 00:36:16,714
Speaker 1: there were videos at the time of her like driving

872
00:36:16,714 --> 00:36:19,954
Speaker 1: a radically. Again, I'm not excusing her behavior because obviously

873
00:36:19,994 --> 00:36:21,953
Speaker 1: that's not great, but also she was being followed by

874
00:36:21,954 --> 00:36:24,874
Speaker 1: like cars full of men screaming at her with their cameras.

875
00:36:25,074 --> 00:36:27,274
Speaker 2: And I think the thing that like obviously everyone used

876
00:36:27,314 --> 00:36:29,114
Speaker 2: to see and still now would be seen with this

877
00:36:29,234 --> 00:36:31,954
Speaker 2: content is like close up imagery. Right, they're seeing a

878
00:36:31,954 --> 00:36:33,834
Speaker 2: close up photo of Brittany in a car. It's a

879
00:36:33,874 --> 00:36:36,234
Speaker 2: close up of her looking a certain way. They're not

880
00:36:36,314 --> 00:36:38,993
Speaker 2: showing you is a zoomed out picture of like at

881
00:36:38,994 --> 00:36:40,834
Speaker 2: that point in time when it first all started to

882
00:36:40,874 --> 00:36:43,634
Speaker 2: happen for her, she would be followed by hundreds of

883
00:36:43,754 --> 00:36:45,754
Speaker 2: paps and then crazy fans.

884
00:36:45,794 --> 00:36:46,914
Speaker 1: You couldn't drive a car.

885
00:36:47,154 --> 00:36:49,433
Speaker 2: There are so many clips of famous people absolutely like

886
00:36:49,514 --> 00:36:53,034
Speaker 2: losing it at paparazzi. Yeah, because their lives are being

887
00:36:53,034 --> 00:36:55,993
Speaker 2: put in danger because it is a safety risk to them.

888
00:36:56,354 --> 00:36:58,953
Speaker 2: And that seems like it's coming back around for her again,

889
00:36:58,954 --> 00:37:01,074
Speaker 2: where people are treating her like this, where it's like

890
00:37:01,154 --> 00:37:04,234
Speaker 2: this zoo animal mentality of like more perhaps following her

891
00:37:04,314 --> 00:37:06,194
Speaker 2: because they can get a headline out of it, and

892
00:37:06,194 --> 00:37:08,994
Speaker 2: then that spirals and obviously makes her feel unsafe, and

893
00:37:09,034 --> 00:37:10,114
Speaker 2: then she might do things.

894
00:37:09,954 --> 00:37:11,594
Speaker 1: That people are like, oh, it's illegal.

895
00:37:11,674 --> 00:37:14,433
Speaker 2: She touched her phone, like I don't know, just like

896
00:37:14,634 --> 00:37:16,354
Speaker 2: it's very concerning to me to be heading back to

897
00:37:16,354 --> 00:37:18,234
Speaker 2: that point and for people to still have no like

898
00:37:18,394 --> 00:37:21,154
Speaker 2: understanding or literacy around it. Yeah, Like, why do we

899
00:37:21,194 --> 00:37:23,754
Speaker 2: think she might be looking scared or feeling scared in

900
00:37:23,794 --> 00:37:26,194
Speaker 2: public if she's being followed by hundreds of people?

901
00:37:26,234 --> 00:37:28,953
Speaker 1: Of course she and she keeps putting videos out on

902
00:37:28,994 --> 00:37:30,674
Speaker 1: her Instagram, which I know when she was in the

903
00:37:30,674 --> 00:37:34,274
Speaker 1: Conservative Ship, people thought she was being like forced to

904
00:37:34,314 --> 00:37:36,114
Speaker 1: put the videos out, or that she was trying to

905
00:37:36,114 --> 00:37:39,834
Speaker 1: send secret signals to people to help her escape, because

906
00:37:39,834 --> 00:37:41,714
Speaker 1: there was that whole thing, like all the fan forums

907
00:37:41,754 --> 00:37:46,114
Speaker 1: from the Save Brittany would say things like yeah, yellow

908
00:37:46,194 --> 00:37:48,433
Speaker 1: if you need help, and then like later on she

909
00:37:48,434 --> 00:37:50,194
Speaker 1: wears yellow. It's all these things that like, obviously that

910
00:37:50,234 --> 00:37:52,434
Speaker 1: could have been like a coincidence, but people really built

911
00:37:52,474 --> 00:37:54,314
Speaker 1: up this thing. But now they're seeing the videos of

912
00:37:54,354 --> 00:37:56,994
Speaker 1: her just in her home, still acting a little erratically,

913
00:37:57,434 --> 00:37:59,114
Speaker 1: and it's like a lot of that fandom has turned

914
00:37:59,154 --> 00:38:02,514
Speaker 1: against her. Sometimes when a musician sells their back catalog,

915
00:38:02,874 --> 00:38:05,074
Speaker 1: its kind of seen like a bit of a celebration

916
00:38:05,234 --> 00:38:07,913
Speaker 1: because they get this huge when of money and they're

917
00:38:07,994 --> 00:38:11,154
Speaker 1: very successful, and it's this whole thing. But the last time,

918
00:38:11,154 --> 00:38:14,314
Speaker 1: we sort of saw fans be like quite devastated by it,

919
00:38:14,594 --> 00:38:16,794
Speaker 1: Like a musician selling their back catalog was as you

920
00:38:16,794 --> 00:38:20,394
Speaker 1: were saying before, Justin Bieber, Yeah, selling his music because

921
00:38:20,474 --> 00:38:22,873
Speaker 1: again we don't one hundred percent know, but there were

922
00:38:22,914 --> 00:38:25,354
Speaker 1: a lot of financial records that came out that because

923
00:38:25,394 --> 00:38:28,154
Speaker 1: he had not gone on that big worldwide tour and

924
00:38:28,234 --> 00:38:30,714
Speaker 1: because maybe he had spent crazy when he was a kid.

925
00:38:30,794 --> 00:38:32,154
Speaker 1: I would have done the same thing if I was

926
00:38:32,234 --> 00:38:35,154
Speaker 1: sixteen and a multimillionaire. That he had got himself into

927
00:38:35,194 --> 00:38:36,834
Speaker 1: such a huge amount of debt that if he had

928
00:38:36,874 --> 00:38:39,354
Speaker 1: waited longer, his music would have been worth more. But

929
00:38:39,394 --> 00:38:42,114
Speaker 1: he had to sell it now in order to keep

930
00:38:42,154 --> 00:38:45,433
Speaker 1: his head above water. Millionaire water, not no millionaire water.

931
00:38:45,594 --> 00:38:48,794
Speaker 2: But yeah, the lifestyle, theat to be comfortable, the lifestyle

932
00:38:48,834 --> 00:38:51,154
Speaker 2: of which they have become a customer. Yes, yeah, And

933
00:38:51,234 --> 00:38:52,794
Speaker 2: I mean, like obviously a lot of people have done it,

934
00:38:52,834 --> 00:38:55,114
Speaker 2: like Springsteen sold he is for five hundred million in

935
00:38:55,154 --> 00:38:55,794
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one.

936
00:38:55,794 --> 00:38:56,634
Speaker 1: A lot of people do it.

937
00:38:56,754 --> 00:38:59,274
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's when it seems like it's out of

938
00:38:59,434 --> 00:39:02,154
Speaker 2: an active desperation that I think fans get upset, which

939
00:39:02,154 --> 00:39:04,274
Speaker 2: is probably why there's been a reaction to Brittany because

940
00:39:04,274 --> 00:39:06,354
Speaker 2: it feels like something she could be doing and we

941
00:39:06,394 --> 00:39:09,354
Speaker 2: don't obviously know because she hasn't told us, but seems

942
00:39:09,354 --> 00:39:11,953
Speaker 2: like something she might be doing out of desperation for

943
00:39:12,634 --> 00:39:15,433
Speaker 2: needing money to fund being alife and safe and all

944
00:39:15,474 --> 00:39:16,114
Speaker 2: of the yeahings.

945
00:39:16,154 --> 00:39:18,834
Speaker 1: And that's sad. And that's the hard thing with this

946
00:39:18,874 --> 00:39:21,634
Speaker 1: story about her selling her music and the tabloid stories

947
00:39:21,674 --> 00:39:23,634
Speaker 1: around her at the moment running side by side, is

948
00:39:23,674 --> 00:39:26,234
Speaker 1: that you've got this story that she's sold her music

949
00:39:26,434 --> 00:39:28,434
Speaker 1: and whether it was worth the amount like that. I

950
00:39:28,434 --> 00:39:31,074
Speaker 1: guess it's up to her business managers to look into.

951
00:39:31,434 --> 00:39:34,393
Speaker 1: But at the same time, videos and photos of her

952
00:39:34,554 --> 00:39:37,594
Speaker 1: like people saying she's acting erratically. A lot of sources

953
00:39:38,034 --> 00:39:40,194
Speaker 1: are talking to tabloids like the Daily Mails. To take

954
00:39:40,194 --> 00:39:42,274
Speaker 1: that with a pinch of salt, but they're saying she's

955
00:39:42,314 --> 00:39:44,314
Speaker 1: hit rock bottom. She doesn't know what she's doing. This

956
00:39:44,354 --> 00:39:46,594
Speaker 1: is an act of desperation. Things are really bad, her

957
00:39:46,594 --> 00:39:49,393
Speaker 1: mental health is terrible, she's in danger, and now those

958
00:39:49,434 --> 00:39:52,994
Speaker 1: stories are out there to such an extreme way. I

959
00:39:53,034 --> 00:39:54,514
Speaker 1: just don't think we'll ever get out of cycle with

960
00:39:54,554 --> 00:39:56,674
Speaker 1: Britney Spears. Like I feel like this week we're kind

961
00:39:56,674 --> 00:40:00,393
Speaker 1: of like watching her legacy burn down even more. And

962
00:40:00,434 --> 00:40:03,433
Speaker 1: it's a really awful thing to watch because I don't

963
00:40:03,474 --> 00:40:06,314
Speaker 1: know how she'll cycle back out of this. Not that

964
00:40:06,394 --> 00:40:08,794
Speaker 1: she should. I think that woman should just be left alone,

965
00:40:09,074 --> 00:40:11,433
Speaker 1: but at the same time, she's now one. But it's

966
00:40:11,434 --> 00:40:11,954
Speaker 1: like she's.

967
00:40:11,874 --> 00:40:14,474
Speaker 2: Left alone alone. It's like what it feels like a

968
00:40:14,474 --> 00:40:16,474
Speaker 2: little bit because remember like when she got married and

969
00:40:16,514 --> 00:40:18,514
Speaker 2: they just like rolled out all these celebrities to go

970
00:40:18,554 --> 00:40:20,754
Speaker 2: to her wedding, and like she was supported by like

971
00:40:20,834 --> 00:40:23,034
Speaker 2: Drew Barrymore, Selena Gome's paras Like there was all of

972
00:40:23,074 --> 00:40:26,474
Speaker 2: these people there and they've fallen away. Like obviously that

973
00:40:26,554 --> 00:40:27,873
Speaker 2: was a bit of a like, hey, we're here to

974
00:40:27,874 --> 00:40:30,474
Speaker 2: support her and show love for this person that we love.

975
00:40:30,394 --> 00:40:33,354
Speaker 1: Like was so on the side. Anyone who sided with

976
00:40:33,394 --> 00:40:36,514
Speaker 1: Brittany then was seen as like to helping save the princess.

977
00:40:36,594 --> 00:40:39,154
Speaker 1: But now that's all messy and complicated. People don't want

978
00:40:39,194 --> 00:40:41,074
Speaker 1: to so she's celebrities don't want to be involved in it.

979
00:40:41,234 --> 00:40:43,994
Speaker 2: Yeah, and obviously, like celebrities were never her closest friends.

980
00:40:43,994 --> 00:40:46,314
Speaker 2: Obviously in that circumstance, they were there to show support,

981
00:40:46,394 --> 00:40:48,234
Speaker 2: but it does seem from the yeah, the outside in

982
00:40:48,354 --> 00:40:50,754
Speaker 2: you worry is she supported and who does she have

983
00:40:50,834 --> 00:40:52,954
Speaker 2: when her whole family already turned as.

984
00:40:53,154 --> 00:40:54,513
Speaker 1: I guess that there's the whole thing of a few

985
00:40:54,514 --> 00:40:56,274
Speaker 1: people who went to that wedding, like Drew Barrymore and

986
00:40:56,314 --> 00:40:58,754
Speaker 1: Selena Goromez did say like we'd never met Brittany before.

987
00:40:58,914 --> 00:41:01,114
Speaker 1: I will say, like I'll give Paris Hilton her jew

988
00:41:01,194 --> 00:41:03,994
Speaker 1: that I think that she's been quite there in the middle.

989
00:41:04,594 --> 00:41:08,274
Speaker 1: She's still pictured with Britney Spears Soften. I think Britney

990
00:41:08,274 --> 00:41:10,514
Speaker 1: Spears is like evening picture going into her home and

991
00:41:10,554 --> 00:41:13,513
Speaker 1: like her kid's birthdays. They've been typed for a long time.

992
00:41:13,594 --> 00:41:16,674
Speaker 1: Parry Silton has always talked really in the lovely, lovely

993
00:41:16,714 --> 00:41:18,554
Speaker 1: way of Brittany, and I feel like she was really

994
00:41:18,554 --> 00:41:22,554
Speaker 1: on the forefront of like that originally, yeah, what was happening? Yeah,

995
00:41:22,594 --> 00:41:24,154
Speaker 1: But and then at the same time, there was that

996
00:41:24,234 --> 00:41:26,553
Speaker 1: kind of Britney Spears outreach, like there was that whole

997
00:41:26,554 --> 00:41:29,034
Speaker 1: thing of like Kim Kardashian had a sleepover with her,

998
00:41:29,514 --> 00:41:31,594
Speaker 1: and Chloe and Kim were talking about in their podcast

999
00:41:31,634 --> 00:41:33,514
Speaker 1: and saying like everyone thought it was so crazy, but

1000
00:41:33,554 --> 00:41:36,474
Speaker 1: it was like they're like, but Britney's Spears manager just

1001
00:41:36,514 --> 00:41:38,154
Speaker 1: called us up to have a girl's night, and you

1002
00:41:38,154 --> 00:41:40,074
Speaker 1: guys are making it weird, and I was like, it

1003
00:41:40,194 --> 00:41:42,354
Speaker 1: is a little bit weird though, like it's a little

1004
00:41:42,354 --> 00:41:44,274
Speaker 1: bit weird that she was. So the story that came

1005
00:41:44,314 --> 00:41:45,634
Speaker 1: out of that was that she was kind of so

1006
00:41:45,754 --> 00:41:48,314
Speaker 1: lonely and craving attention that she got her business manager

1007
00:41:48,394 --> 00:41:50,873
Speaker 1: to call Kim's business manager so that she could have

1008
00:41:50,874 --> 00:41:53,393
Speaker 1: a sleepover. Yeah, and obviously it was all documented for

1009
00:41:53,434 --> 00:41:56,913
Speaker 1: socials and stuff, and I'm sure I had a lovely time, yeah,

1010
00:41:56,954 --> 00:41:58,634
Speaker 1: and just all reads a little weird, I guess, but

1011
00:41:58,674 --> 00:42:01,114
Speaker 1: that's to me that was kind of like more of

1012
00:42:01,154 --> 00:42:04,393
Speaker 1: like a point of sadness and isolation for a celebrity

1013
00:42:04,794 --> 00:42:07,114
Speaker 1: that you have a girl's night, but it's with another

1014
00:42:07,194 --> 00:42:09,953
Speaker 1: famous woman that your manager connected you with. And then

1015
00:42:09,994 --> 00:42:11,953
Speaker 1: it was kind of done for social And I don't

1016
00:42:11,954 --> 00:42:15,433
Speaker 1: imagine that Britney Spears now calls Kim cut Ashian when

1017
00:42:15,474 --> 00:42:19,274
Speaker 1: she needs something, So again, it's all very It's again,

1018
00:42:19,314 --> 00:42:20,914
Speaker 1: it's a whole thing of everyone just dipping into the

1019
00:42:20,954 --> 00:42:23,554
Speaker 1: Britney Spears like train when it's like interesting and right

1020
00:42:23,634 --> 00:42:25,953
Speaker 1: for them to yeah, and then dipping back out when

1021
00:42:26,314 --> 00:42:28,954
Speaker 1: now tableaus are saying like she's losing her mind and

1022
00:42:29,034 --> 00:42:30,234
Speaker 1: needs help and everything.

1023
00:42:30,354 --> 00:42:32,234
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean she did post on Instagram with

1024
00:42:32,274 --> 00:42:34,834
Speaker 2: one of her sons recently, and I'm not sure if

1025
00:42:34,874 --> 00:42:36,594
Speaker 2: it was like an old photo or like what was

1026
00:42:36,634 --> 00:42:38,554
Speaker 2: going on, but like I'd like to think that maybe

1027
00:42:38,554 --> 00:42:39,913
Speaker 2: those boys start.

1028
00:42:39,674 --> 00:42:41,834
Speaker 1: To, I don't know, be a support to their mom

1029
00:42:41,834 --> 00:42:43,074
Speaker 1: again if they cannot.

1030
00:42:43,074 --> 00:42:44,954
Speaker 2: We don't know their dynamic, we don't know their relationship.

1031
00:42:44,994 --> 00:42:47,234
Speaker 2: We only know what Kevin Federline says in your book.

1032
00:42:47,314 --> 00:42:49,034
Speaker 1: And I guess the kids have given interviews now.

1033
00:42:49,034 --> 00:42:49,154
Speaker 2: Well.

1034
00:42:49,194 --> 00:42:50,954
Speaker 1: The other thing is too that she doesn't have to

1035
00:42:50,994 --> 00:42:53,794
Speaker 1: pay child support for them, Yeah, which is kind of

1036
00:42:53,834 --> 00:42:57,194
Speaker 1: when they Dutch around life. I know, it's really concerned.

1037
00:42:57,234 --> 00:42:59,594
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean I would love to be rich

1038
00:42:59,634 --> 00:43:01,953
Speaker 1: and famous, except when I hear stories like this, and

1039
00:43:01,994 --> 00:43:04,394
Speaker 1: sometimes I think like, oh, it's it's like the worst.

1040
00:43:04,394 --> 00:43:06,314
Speaker 2: It's just one of the biggest and worst examples of

1041
00:43:06,354 --> 00:43:08,234
Speaker 2: like all the ways of can go wrong and like

1042
00:43:08,274 --> 00:43:09,954
Speaker 2: where it can leave you. And I just I just

1043
00:43:10,034 --> 00:43:11,994
Speaker 2: love Britney, and I just like I do think a

1044
00:43:11,994 --> 00:43:13,873
Speaker 2: lot of the discourse say around her videos. I know

1045
00:43:13,914 --> 00:43:15,514
Speaker 2: that sometimes they can look a bit of radic, but

1046
00:43:15,554 --> 00:43:17,914
Speaker 2: also you watch videos of her at twenty dancing in

1047
00:43:17,994 --> 00:43:20,434
Speaker 2: the studio. She's doing the same dance moves, the same stuff.

1048
00:43:20,474 --> 00:43:22,274
Speaker 2: The girl just likes to dance. She believes to do

1049
00:43:22,314 --> 00:43:24,234
Speaker 2: that same kind of stuff too. But yes, like there's

1050
00:43:24,234 --> 00:43:26,274
Speaker 2: a lot of concerning behavior. But I'm also like, well,

1051
00:43:26,314 --> 00:43:27,834
Speaker 2: can someone get involved?

1052
00:43:27,834 --> 00:43:30,234
Speaker 1: Then I know someone who's not just using her for

1053
00:43:30,274 --> 00:43:33,473
Speaker 1: a photo on their Instagram. Yeah. Yeah, so that's where

1054
00:43:33,474 --> 00:43:35,754
Speaker 1: we're at. She just told her music catalog and hoping

1055
00:43:35,794 --> 00:43:37,754
Speaker 1: the money helps, and like that's kind of like a

1056
00:43:37,754 --> 00:43:39,873
Speaker 1: positive step for her if she doesn't want to be

1057
00:43:39,914 --> 00:43:42,114
Speaker 1: in the music industry anymore. But I just hope that

1058
00:43:42,634 --> 00:43:46,234
Speaker 1: this whole like the next downfall of Britney Spears Combs

1059
00:43:46,274 --> 00:43:47,714
Speaker 1: and then someone steps into help.

1060
00:43:48,354 --> 00:43:50,394
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1061
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Speaker 1: the traditional owners of the land. We have recorded this

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Speaker 1: podcast on the Gadigol people of the Orination. We pay

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Speaker 1: our respects to their elders past and present, and extend

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Speaker 1: that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.