1 00:00:10,705 --> 00:00:13,425 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. 2 00:00:13,945 --> 00:00:17,465 Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 3 00:00:17,505 --> 00:00:21,265 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. Hello, Lee, here dropping 4 00:00:21,305 --> 00:00:23,945 Speaker 2: into your nothing to wear feed on this Easter Monday 5 00:00:23,985 --> 00:00:27,585 Speaker 2: with a little beauty bonus. This air proves that less 6 00:00:27,585 --> 00:00:30,425 Speaker 2: can be more because we solve the dilemma of vanishing 7 00:00:30,465 --> 00:00:33,265 Speaker 2: fragrance and we talk through retinal strengths. 8 00:00:33,345 --> 00:00:34,865 Speaker 3: So it's a goodie. Enjoy. 9 00:00:36,585 --> 00:00:38,105 Speaker 1: Makeup is my therapy. 10 00:00:38,305 --> 00:00:41,305 Speaker 3: I'm in love, I'm obsessed and I don't even feel 11 00:00:41,345 --> 00:00:42,105 Speaker 3: guilty of body. 12 00:00:44,745 --> 00:00:47,865 Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to You Beauty, the daily podcast for 13 00:00:47,905 --> 00:00:49,745 Speaker 2: Your Face. My name is Lee Campbell. 14 00:00:49,785 --> 00:00:53,305 Speaker 3: I'm Kelly McCarran, and you are listening to Your Beauty, 15 00:00:53,305 --> 00:00:53,665 Speaker 3: which I. 16 00:00:53,625 --> 00:00:55,985 Speaker 1: Already heard you. Wow. 17 00:00:56,145 --> 00:00:58,305 Speaker 4: Can someone tell that Lee has not had her coffee 18 00:00:58,345 --> 00:00:59,465 Speaker 4: yet this Monday morning? 19 00:00:59,545 --> 00:01:01,305 Speaker 3: But I must say it is a daily show. 20 00:01:01,305 --> 00:01:03,505 Speaker 2: So what I'm meant to say is it's a Monday 21 00:01:03,505 --> 00:01:06,025 Speaker 2: a vote of you beauty, where we answer you be questions. 22 00:01:06,105 --> 00:01:08,425 Speaker 2: You submit them, we talk about them, we bring them 23 00:01:08,425 --> 00:01:11,385 Speaker 2: to the show, and we're hope very helpful. 24 00:01:11,025 --> 00:01:14,105 Speaker 4: Hopefully especially our host tags, which is always later in 25 00:01:14,145 --> 00:01:14,785 Speaker 4: the episode. 26 00:01:15,105 --> 00:01:17,225 Speaker 2: Yeah, Now listen if you want to ask us one 27 00:01:17,385 --> 00:01:19,425 Speaker 2: to shoot us a damn on Instagram, pop it in 28 00:01:19,425 --> 00:01:22,065 Speaker 2: the Facebook group, or you can email you beauty podcast 29 00:01:22,105 --> 00:01:24,345 Speaker 2: at mamamea dot com dot are you Today. 30 00:01:24,345 --> 00:01:27,865 Speaker 4: We've got a question about perfume, which I'm so excited 31 00:01:28,305 --> 00:01:31,705 Speaker 4: I can finally contribute to without just going yack everything. 32 00:01:31,785 --> 00:01:33,345 Speaker 1: Hence my nose because. 33 00:01:33,025 --> 00:01:36,545 Speaker 4: It's finally three years it took to settle postpartum. 34 00:01:36,665 --> 00:01:37,745 Speaker 3: Yeah, you hated fragrance. 35 00:01:37,865 --> 00:01:39,545 Speaker 1: I could not tolerate it. 36 00:01:39,585 --> 00:01:41,865 Speaker 4: I'm finally back on the fragrance trying, and I'm very 37 00:01:41,905 --> 00:01:42,825 Speaker 4: excited too too. 38 00:01:43,425 --> 00:01:47,225 Speaker 1: But first I couldn't help but wonder ask me anything. 39 00:01:47,305 --> 00:01:48,425 Speaker 3: You ask many questions. 40 00:01:49,945 --> 00:01:53,625 Speaker 1: Katie has asked Elda millennial here. I love that term. 41 00:01:54,025 --> 00:01:57,145 Speaker 4: I've been using prescription retinal pretty consistently for a few years, 42 00:01:57,345 --> 00:01:59,745 Speaker 4: never reaching for it more than once a week. Every 43 00:01:59,745 --> 00:02:02,145 Speaker 4: time I increase the frequency, I get very dry and 44 00:02:02,225 --> 00:02:04,385 Speaker 4: have to cut back. I believe I could probably use 45 00:02:04,385 --> 00:02:06,825 Speaker 4: a more mild over the counter retinal every single day 46 00:02:06,825 --> 00:02:09,825 Speaker 4: without too much irritation. I know I'm losing college and 47 00:02:09,865 --> 00:02:11,545 Speaker 4: by the day, and I don't have the luxury of 48 00:02:11,625 --> 00:02:13,785 Speaker 4: years and years of testing. The different outcomes of these 49 00:02:13,825 --> 00:02:17,145 Speaker 4: two approaches My question is for the aging benefits as 50 00:02:17,145 --> 00:02:19,945 Speaker 4: I approach forty, is it better to use mild retinal often, 51 00:02:20,025 --> 00:02:22,585 Speaker 4: such as every day, or a more powerful retinal once 52 00:02:22,585 --> 00:02:22,945 Speaker 4: a week. 53 00:02:23,185 --> 00:02:25,385 Speaker 1: Thank you Ladies for being such a trusted source for 54 00:02:25,465 --> 00:02:26,425 Speaker 1: my skincare question. 55 00:02:26,905 --> 00:02:27,385 Speaker 3: Katie. 56 00:02:27,465 --> 00:02:29,465 Speaker 2: Look, I think Kelly and I will have similar answers 57 00:02:29,465 --> 00:02:31,745 Speaker 2: that are somewhat skewed because of our jobs. 58 00:02:31,825 --> 00:02:35,145 Speaker 3: I don't think either of us use prescription retinoal. I don't. 59 00:02:35,505 --> 00:02:37,225 Speaker 4: It just means that we wouldn't be able to use 60 00:02:37,465 --> 00:02:38,745 Speaker 4: a lot of other stuff. 61 00:02:38,825 --> 00:02:41,145 Speaker 2: Yeah, because we test a lot of over the counter 62 00:02:41,185 --> 00:02:44,225 Speaker 2: retinals for our job. But also I do not have 63 00:02:44,345 --> 00:02:47,705 Speaker 2: time for the purging no phase. So if you are 64 00:02:47,745 --> 00:02:50,785 Speaker 2: starting a retinol, particularly a strong one, it's called purging. 65 00:02:50,825 --> 00:02:55,265 Speaker 2: You go through dryness, flakiness, reddness, tightness, sometimes breakouts when 66 00:02:55,305 --> 00:02:58,705 Speaker 2: you push through. Eventually, apparently it's great and for everyone. 67 00:02:58,785 --> 00:03:00,865 Speaker 4: I'm part of this retinal group on Facebook just to 68 00:03:00,905 --> 00:03:02,865 Speaker 4: see what people say, and some people are like, it's 69 00:03:02,905 --> 00:03:04,905 Speaker 4: been six months, I still not seeing anything. 70 00:03:04,945 --> 00:03:05,745 Speaker 3: Well, that's Katie. 71 00:03:05,745 --> 00:03:07,945 Speaker 2: And the thing is any type of vitamin A product 72 00:03:08,025 --> 00:03:10,425 Speaker 2: is a long game to see. The doesn't matter if 73 00:03:10,465 --> 00:03:14,745 Speaker 2: it's prescription or over the counter. I feel like ten 74 00:03:14,865 --> 00:03:17,945 Speaker 2: years ago, prescription was the og, and you know a 75 00:03:17,945 --> 00:03:21,745 Speaker 2: lot of dermatologists still really rave about it. But for me, 76 00:03:22,465 --> 00:03:24,025 Speaker 2: I don't want to go through the purge and I 77 00:03:24,065 --> 00:03:26,465 Speaker 2: want to chop and change products, and I get really 78 00:03:26,465 --> 00:03:29,265 Speaker 2: great results from brands that sell them without a prescription. 79 00:03:29,785 --> 00:03:33,825 Speaker 4: When you use an over the counter retinal or different products, 80 00:03:33,865 --> 00:03:36,425 Speaker 4: you're actually also getting skin care benefits from the other 81 00:03:36,585 --> 00:03:39,065 Speaker 4: ingredients that they put yes in them, yeah, that you 82 00:03:39,145 --> 00:03:40,425 Speaker 4: aren't getting just with retino. 83 00:03:40,585 --> 00:03:40,745 Speaker 1: Yeah. 84 00:03:40,745 --> 00:03:42,305 Speaker 2: So when you get a script from the doctor and 85 00:03:42,305 --> 00:03:44,145 Speaker 2: you get a retinal we can't name them by names, 86 00:03:44,145 --> 00:03:46,625 Speaker 2: but there's a couple and they're pretty well known. You 87 00:03:46,665 --> 00:03:48,505 Speaker 2: then have to sort of buffer it or it's like 88 00:03:48,625 --> 00:03:51,105 Speaker 2: literally just a drug in a tube, whereas over the 89 00:03:51,145 --> 00:03:53,905 Speaker 2: counter have used a form of vitamin eight might be retinal, 90 00:03:54,025 --> 00:03:56,745 Speaker 2: might be retinal, and then put it with other stuff 91 00:03:56,745 --> 00:03:59,065 Speaker 2: that will soften the blow or also help with this, 92 00:03:59,225 --> 00:04:01,785 Speaker 2: to help with that or whatever. So I'm very much 93 00:04:01,825 --> 00:04:04,625 Speaker 2: in the over the counter camp because I know it 94 00:04:04,705 --> 00:04:07,425 Speaker 2: takes a long time to really see results on kind 95 00:04:07,465 --> 00:04:10,825 Speaker 2: of malasma or pigmentation, but iwhere I'm going after a 96 00:04:10,825 --> 00:04:12,465 Speaker 2: few weeks when I try a new consistent. 97 00:04:12,705 --> 00:04:13,465 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 98 00:04:13,545 --> 00:04:15,225 Speaker 2: So I've got a few to recommend, But do you 99 00:04:15,265 --> 00:04:18,705 Speaker 2: want to recommend yours first? Well, I've just got three 100 00:04:18,745 --> 00:04:22,385 Speaker 2: to recommend that are really good for sensitive skin as well, 101 00:04:22,745 --> 00:04:25,385 Speaker 2: because I do have I don't have sensitive skin, but 102 00:04:25,425 --> 00:04:28,745 Speaker 2: I've got reactive skin. So I've talked about this so 103 00:04:28,825 --> 00:04:31,905 Speaker 2: much ever since it launched. The Elizabeth Arden Retino and 104 00:04:32,225 --> 00:04:36,025 Speaker 2: HPR Seramid Rapid Skin Renewing Water Cream. It's one hundred 105 00:04:36,025 --> 00:04:39,265 Speaker 2: and sixty five dollars. I've never tried a retino that 106 00:04:39,425 --> 00:04:41,665 Speaker 2: is so nurishing. 107 00:04:41,465 --> 00:04:43,505 Speaker 3: Like you almost wouldn't know it was a vitamin A product. 108 00:04:43,505 --> 00:04:45,665 Speaker 4: If you wouldn't know, you would not know if you 109 00:04:45,665 --> 00:04:49,545 Speaker 4: didn't read the label. It is just such a beautiful cream. 110 00:04:50,185 --> 00:04:52,305 Speaker 4: Is it enough by itself? I don't think so. Like 111 00:04:52,345 --> 00:04:54,065 Speaker 4: I would always have to put something on over the 112 00:04:54,065 --> 00:04:56,825 Speaker 4: top of it for moisture, but that's because I also 113 00:04:56,865 --> 00:04:58,585 Speaker 4: do have quite dry skin. 114 00:04:59,105 --> 00:05:01,905 Speaker 1: And then, you know, I love a Reddit thread. I 115 00:05:01,945 --> 00:05:02,465 Speaker 1: was having a. 116 00:05:02,425 --> 00:05:04,785 Speaker 4: Look at what a lot of other people said for 117 00:05:05,025 --> 00:05:09,785 Speaker 4: really sensitive skin when they're not tolerating general retinols. So 118 00:05:10,225 --> 00:05:14,665 Speaker 4: First Aid Beauty from Sephora Skin Lab Retinyl Serum point 119 00:05:14,665 --> 00:05:19,385 Speaker 4: two five pure concentrate is specifically made for sensitive skin, 120 00:05:19,465 --> 00:05:22,545 Speaker 4: so that one's seventy nine dollars and twenty cents at 121 00:05:22,545 --> 00:05:25,185 Speaker 4: the time of recording because it's on special And then 122 00:05:25,265 --> 00:05:29,745 Speaker 4: the Keels Retinal Skin Renewing daily microdose serum one hundred 123 00:05:29,745 --> 00:05:32,665 Speaker 4: and sixty one dollars. That one has also been formulated 124 00:05:32,745 --> 00:05:35,265 Speaker 4: for sensitive skin, and the Rattit users have seen a 125 00:05:35,265 --> 00:05:39,145 Speaker 4: lot of success with it and no irritation. So I'd 126 00:05:39,145 --> 00:05:41,785 Speaker 4: have a look at those ones. I don't have anything affordable. 127 00:05:42,105 --> 00:05:42,865 Speaker 3: I do, Oh you do? 128 00:05:42,985 --> 00:05:45,705 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I've got some spendies and some savors. So 129 00:05:46,305 --> 00:05:47,905 Speaker 2: most brands, actually, I think all of the brands. I'm 130 00:05:47,905 --> 00:05:50,425 Speaker 2: about directmend. We will do clinical studies to prove that over 131 00:05:50,465 --> 00:05:52,385 Speaker 2: a period of time, and like I said, biamin is 132 00:05:52,425 --> 00:05:54,865 Speaker 2: a long game that these products work. Are they the 133 00:05:54,865 --> 00:05:59,465 Speaker 2: same results as prescription? Can't say, but are you stopping 134 00:05:59,465 --> 00:06:00,585 Speaker 2: and starting and getting irritation? 135 00:06:00,865 --> 00:06:01,945 Speaker 3: No? So happy days you? 136 00:06:02,185 --> 00:06:05,305 Speaker 4: Well, well, we're actually going to see more results faster because 137 00:06:05,305 --> 00:06:06,385 Speaker 4: you're using it more consented. 138 00:06:06,745 --> 00:06:10,465 Speaker 2: So this is a spendy, it's the Medicaid crystal retin. Yes, 139 00:06:10,865 --> 00:06:12,945 Speaker 2: this is a whole system. So they're ninety nine dollars 140 00:06:12,985 --> 00:06:16,585 Speaker 2: per urum, but you go up in grade, so there's three, six, nine, 141 00:06:16,745 --> 00:06:19,505 Speaker 2: and you kind of graduate to the stronger one. It's 142 00:06:19,665 --> 00:06:21,945 Speaker 2: very clever. I've used those before. I love the I 143 00:06:22,105 --> 00:06:22,985 Speaker 2: cream version of this. 144 00:06:23,065 --> 00:06:23,545 Speaker 3: They're great. 145 00:06:23,625 --> 00:06:28,345 Speaker 2: You can get that at Adoor Beauty. Nutrogena is fantastic. 146 00:06:28,385 --> 00:06:30,505 Speaker 2: They've got a whole bunch of actual retinal products, but 147 00:06:30,545 --> 00:06:32,705 Speaker 2: the one I like the most is the Neutrogena Rapid 148 00:06:32,705 --> 00:06:36,385 Speaker 2: Wrinkle Repair Retinol Pro Plus night Cream. It's four price 149 00:06:36,385 --> 00:06:38,745 Speaker 2: sixty five dollars at the time of recording. Chemist Warehouse 150 00:06:38,745 --> 00:06:39,185 Speaker 2: has it on. 151 00:06:39,265 --> 00:06:42,225 Speaker 4: Sale, and they've got the different levels as well with Neutrogena, 152 00:06:42,305 --> 00:06:42,665 Speaker 4: don't they. 153 00:06:42,745 --> 00:06:45,025 Speaker 2: And they also have serums. They've got something for the day, 154 00:06:45,065 --> 00:06:47,065 Speaker 2: they've got an eye I just like this night cream 155 00:06:47,105 --> 00:06:49,465 Speaker 2: because oftentimes, when I'm really tired, I just want to 156 00:06:49,465 --> 00:06:52,265 Speaker 2: slap on a cream that's kind of moisturizing enough and 157 00:06:52,345 --> 00:06:53,385 Speaker 2: also anti aging. 158 00:06:53,585 --> 00:06:55,785 Speaker 3: That one's really good. One I have. 159 00:06:55,825 --> 00:06:58,545 Speaker 2: Used probably six tubes of I love so much is 160 00:06:58,665 --> 00:07:02,065 Speaker 2: Ola Hendrickson double a Wine pro Grade zero point three 161 00:07:02,105 --> 00:07:05,385 Speaker 2: percent retinal serum. It's expensive, sorry, it's from a Door Beauty. 162 00:07:05,425 --> 00:07:07,065 Speaker 2: I think you can also get it at Sephora one 163 00:07:07,145 --> 00:07:10,465 Speaker 2: hundred and five dollars. Never had any irritation. I swear 164 00:07:10,505 --> 00:07:13,265 Speaker 2: my skin is glowing from the next morning because as 165 00:07:13,265 --> 00:07:15,625 Speaker 2: a reminder, we use these products at night. 166 00:07:15,545 --> 00:07:17,905 Speaker 3: Only, and then the next day and every day. 167 00:07:17,945 --> 00:07:20,625 Speaker 2: We are super diligent with sunscreen because it can make 168 00:07:20,665 --> 00:07:21,505 Speaker 2: your skin a little bit more. 169 00:07:21,505 --> 00:07:24,145 Speaker 4: Even if a product says can be used twice a day, no, 170 00:07:24,265 --> 00:07:25,185 Speaker 4: just use it at nighttime. 171 00:07:25,465 --> 00:07:27,465 Speaker 2: I've used this before, I'd like to use it again. 172 00:07:27,505 --> 00:07:30,825 Speaker 2: I should buy it again. The go to very amazing retinal. 173 00:07:30,985 --> 00:07:35,225 Speaker 2: It's a Vitner manas favorite. Actually, he loves it. Eighty 174 00:07:35,225 --> 00:07:38,425 Speaker 2: five dollars. It has got five hundred and seventy one 175 00:07:38,585 --> 00:07:41,385 Speaker 2: five star reviews on their website. Probably a little bit 176 00:07:41,385 --> 00:07:43,385 Speaker 2: because sol is amazing, but also because it's a really 177 00:07:43,385 --> 00:07:47,265 Speaker 2: great product and she took a long time to launch it. Lastly, 178 00:07:47,305 --> 00:07:49,625 Speaker 2: another Savy which is also really excellent. I think Aaron 179 00:07:49,665 --> 00:07:51,945 Speaker 2: loves this one, and she's sensitive. It's a Sarah V 180 00:07:52,185 --> 00:07:53,065 Speaker 2: Skin renewing round. 181 00:07:53,225 --> 00:07:53,625 Speaker 1: She does. 182 00:07:53,745 --> 00:07:55,945 Speaker 2: Yes, I've heard her talk about this forty three bucks 183 00:07:55,945 --> 00:07:59,745 Speaker 2: sometimes on sale, so I would pick an over the counter, 184 00:08:00,105 --> 00:08:02,105 Speaker 2: give it three months. Still, don't use it every night, 185 00:08:02,145 --> 00:08:03,425 Speaker 2: because he said you want to use it every night. 186 00:08:03,545 --> 00:08:06,225 Speaker 2: Start twice a week, build up to three times a week. 187 00:08:06,465 --> 00:08:08,785 Speaker 2: After a couple of weeks, you could probably use it 188 00:08:08,825 --> 00:08:11,545 Speaker 2: six nights a week. You forget a hydration step, but 189 00:08:11,665 --> 00:08:14,785 Speaker 2: I reckon you're going to have less frustration and more results. 190 00:08:14,865 --> 00:08:16,145 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's. 191 00:08:16,065 --> 00:08:17,065 Speaker 3: How we feel about that. 192 00:08:17,425 --> 00:08:19,425 Speaker 4: Coming up after the break, we're going to chat about 193 00:08:19,425 --> 00:08:21,465 Speaker 4: fragrances we are loving at the moment. 194 00:08:28,745 --> 00:08:29,825 Speaker 1: So gotya, Katia. 195 00:08:29,905 --> 00:08:33,745 Speaker 2: You have a beautiful name. You said, Hi, you be queens. 196 00:08:34,145 --> 00:08:37,425 Speaker 2: My question is about perfume. No matter which perfume I wear, 197 00:08:37,505 --> 00:08:39,785 Speaker 2: it just doesn't last on me. The smell is gone 198 00:08:39,865 --> 00:08:41,745 Speaker 2: in a few hours, and it doesn't seem to matter 199 00:08:41,785 --> 00:08:43,625 Speaker 2: which type or how much I put on. 200 00:08:43,985 --> 00:08:45,705 Speaker 3: Am I doing something wrong? Also? 201 00:08:45,745 --> 00:08:47,865 Speaker 2: Can you please tell me some of your favorite perfumes 202 00:08:47,905 --> 00:08:48,545 Speaker 2: I can try? 203 00:08:49,025 --> 00:08:54,025 Speaker 4: All right, Cardia, perfume strength. It's quite hard if you're 204 00:08:54,065 --> 00:08:57,265 Speaker 4: just like the average punter going into a shop. Perfume 205 00:08:57,305 --> 00:08:59,185 Speaker 4: can be quite hard to understand because you're like, that 206 00:08:59,265 --> 00:09:01,105 Speaker 4: just smells beautiful. Why does it not last all day? 207 00:09:01,105 --> 00:09:04,025 Speaker 4: And why does it only last for a cent amount 208 00:09:04,025 --> 00:09:06,185 Speaker 4: of time on me? Or smell differently? Firstly, though, I 209 00:09:06,225 --> 00:09:08,425 Speaker 4: do want to say that it probably is lasting longer 210 00:09:08,425 --> 00:09:11,345 Speaker 4: than you think. If you can smell your own perfume 211 00:09:11,425 --> 00:09:13,745 Speaker 4: after an hour, you've got too much on. That's like 212 00:09:13,785 --> 00:09:15,345 Speaker 4: a general rule of some of course, you smell it 213 00:09:15,385 --> 00:09:18,065 Speaker 4: when you first put it on, but I reckon if 214 00:09:18,065 --> 00:09:21,825 Speaker 4: you ask other people around you, they can smell your perfume. 215 00:09:21,425 --> 00:09:23,305 Speaker 2: And before you give us the grades of the strengths, 216 00:09:23,305 --> 00:09:25,665 Speaker 2: because you're a pro that can. I just further on 217 00:09:25,705 --> 00:09:28,105 Speaker 2: that point. It's a thing it's called olfactory aduption, So 218 00:09:28,705 --> 00:09:32,105 Speaker 2: your nose gets used to the smell that's right near it. 219 00:09:32,185 --> 00:09:34,465 Speaker 2: So like say how you walk into someone's house and 220 00:09:34,465 --> 00:09:36,145 Speaker 2: it has a distinct smell. It might be they can't 221 00:09:36,185 --> 00:09:38,425 Speaker 2: smell it. It might be pets or their home fragrance 222 00:09:38,505 --> 00:09:40,665 Speaker 2: or whatever. It's not pets, no, but they walk home 223 00:09:40,705 --> 00:09:42,865 Speaker 2: and they can't smell it because they're around it all 224 00:09:42,905 --> 00:09:46,425 Speaker 2: the time. So it's very likely that your nose has 225 00:09:46,505 --> 00:09:49,225 Speaker 2: just got so familiar with it that your brain doesn't register. 226 00:09:49,305 --> 00:09:51,385 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if your chop and change fragrances. It's 227 00:09:51,425 --> 00:09:53,145 Speaker 2: just like after three hours, it's like, oh, yeah, I 228 00:09:53,185 --> 00:09:56,385 Speaker 2: know that smells here. I need to be available to 229 00:09:56,425 --> 00:09:59,665 Speaker 2: smell other things, So I reckon it still laughs, it's 230 00:09:59,665 --> 00:10:00,905 Speaker 2: just that your nose doesn't know. 231 00:10:01,505 --> 00:10:04,225 Speaker 3: But then it depends on what you're choosing. Where Kelly 232 00:10:04,345 --> 00:10:05,545 Speaker 3: will talk us through the grades. 233 00:10:05,785 --> 00:10:09,905 Speaker 4: So the perfume strength is determined by the concentration of 234 00:10:09,905 --> 00:10:12,585 Speaker 4: different fragrance oils that are in a formula. So the 235 00:10:12,665 --> 00:10:15,265 Speaker 4: higher concentration, the longer it lasts, and then the stronger 236 00:10:15,305 --> 00:10:18,425 Speaker 4: it smells. So I'll give you a very quick breakdown 237 00:10:18,465 --> 00:10:21,185 Speaker 4: if you haven't heard us talking about this before. So 238 00:10:21,305 --> 00:10:24,265 Speaker 4: a paf fum, which is generally the most expensive, that 239 00:10:24,385 --> 00:10:28,505 Speaker 4: has twenty to forty percent of the fragrance oil concentration 240 00:10:28,625 --> 00:10:33,585 Speaker 4: in it. The EDP has fifteen to twenty percent, EDT 241 00:10:34,305 --> 00:10:38,385 Speaker 4: five to fifteen percent, and then EDC two to five percent. 242 00:10:38,625 --> 00:10:40,905 Speaker 3: You ever heard of an EDC A cologne? Oh, a 243 00:10:40,945 --> 00:10:42,785 Speaker 3: cologne very short? 244 00:10:44,345 --> 00:10:47,465 Speaker 4: And then there's a frush which is basically just a mist, 245 00:10:47,545 --> 00:10:51,185 Speaker 4: and then that's one percent. So the longevity of your 246 00:10:51,225 --> 00:10:55,025 Speaker 4: fragrance will depend on where it is in that and 247 00:10:55,065 --> 00:10:57,265 Speaker 4: also then on the base notes, as they are the 248 00:10:57,305 --> 00:10:59,945 Speaker 4: heaviest and slowest to evaporate in your fragrance. So if 249 00:10:59,985 --> 00:11:02,585 Speaker 4: you want something long lasting, you need to look for 250 00:11:02,665 --> 00:11:07,025 Speaker 4: things with like woody musky Gormandi bass notes rather than 251 00:11:07,505 --> 00:11:08,665 Speaker 4: fruity florals. 252 00:11:08,745 --> 00:11:10,465 Speaker 3: Yeah, fresh as are you usually quite light. 253 00:11:10,585 --> 00:11:13,185 Speaker 4: Which is, you know, unfortunate because they're often the ones 254 00:11:13,225 --> 00:11:14,025 Speaker 4: that I love. 255 00:11:14,705 --> 00:11:16,025 Speaker 3: I still smell them, don't put more. 256 00:11:16,145 --> 00:11:17,545 Speaker 1: All hilarious, very funny. 257 00:11:18,545 --> 00:11:20,585 Speaker 4: So as a starting point, I would have a look 258 00:11:20,585 --> 00:11:25,185 Speaker 4: at what fragrances you're wearing, and I personally use a puffum. 259 00:11:25,745 --> 00:11:28,345 Speaker 4: They're so expensive though, look for eedps to begin with. 260 00:11:28,385 --> 00:11:30,465 Speaker 4: They're still more expensive, but you're not going to be 261 00:11:30,465 --> 00:11:31,225 Speaker 4: spraying them as much. 262 00:11:31,225 --> 00:11:33,505 Speaker 3: But you need one to two sprays. Yeah, Max, I 263 00:11:33,545 --> 00:11:34,065 Speaker 3: would say one. 264 00:11:34,065 --> 00:11:36,145 Speaker 4: I always say to Luke one please on your neck, 265 00:11:36,625 --> 00:11:39,105 Speaker 4: and then look at what the bass notes are. 266 00:11:39,825 --> 00:11:41,585 Speaker 1: So that's where I would start. 267 00:11:41,705 --> 00:11:45,385 Speaker 4: And then I've got two current recommendations that I would 268 00:11:45,425 --> 00:11:45,985 Speaker 4: love to give you. 269 00:11:46,025 --> 00:11:47,945 Speaker 1: But first, Lee, do you have anything to add to that? 270 00:11:48,185 --> 00:11:50,865 Speaker 2: I totally agree with that, And because you have worked 271 00:11:51,105 --> 00:11:53,145 Speaker 2: very closely with fragrance in a past life, I love 272 00:11:53,145 --> 00:11:53,865 Speaker 2: that you know all that. 273 00:11:53,985 --> 00:11:55,625 Speaker 3: I agree with everything. Kelly says. 274 00:11:55,705 --> 00:11:58,585 Speaker 2: I'm going to recommend a few perfume oils because oils 275 00:11:58,585 --> 00:12:01,425 Speaker 2: tend to last longer. They usually don't have any alcohol 276 00:12:01,465 --> 00:12:03,465 Speaker 2: in it, and it's the alcohol that evaporates. That then 277 00:12:03,545 --> 00:12:06,145 Speaker 2: kind of makes the fragrance settle. So let me just 278 00:12:06,185 --> 00:12:08,545 Speaker 2: share a couple and then Kelly will talk to you 279 00:12:08,585 --> 00:12:10,825 Speaker 2: about her favorites also. So you need a tiny bit 280 00:12:10,865 --> 00:12:13,905 Speaker 2: of oil and they are generally like cost per ware, 281 00:12:13,945 --> 00:12:17,025 Speaker 2: more affordable. Five years ago I spoke about this fragrance, 282 00:12:17,065 --> 00:12:19,705 Speaker 2: the fig and olive fragrance from a small Australian business 283 00:12:19,745 --> 00:12:23,145 Speaker 2: called Perfume Skincare Company. Still love it, Still wear it. 284 00:12:23,225 --> 00:12:25,305 Speaker 2: You can get the little roll on ten mel roll 285 00:12:25,345 --> 00:12:27,345 Speaker 2: on to try and trust me. That will last you 286 00:12:27,425 --> 00:12:31,185 Speaker 2: forever for twenty seven dollars and fifty cents. It is lush. 287 00:12:31,225 --> 00:12:32,985 Speaker 2: It's the one that I ran up to a woman 288 00:12:33,025 --> 00:12:34,905 Speaker 2: in the shopping center and said, tell me what you're marrying? 289 00:12:34,945 --> 00:12:37,025 Speaker 2: What on earth do you have on? Another one I 290 00:12:37,025 --> 00:12:39,185 Speaker 2: love is. The brand is called Gentle Habits. These bottles 291 00:12:39,185 --> 00:12:41,465 Speaker 2: are beautiful. They've got a whole bunch of different ones. 292 00:12:41,505 --> 00:12:44,385 Speaker 2: My favorite perfume oil from them is called Tasmania. It's 293 00:12:44,465 --> 00:12:48,705 Speaker 2: notes of leather. It's kind of masculine and sexy. It's 294 00:12:48,705 --> 00:12:51,545 Speaker 2: a woody one. These are all unisex. That's fifty dollars 295 00:12:51,585 --> 00:12:54,505 Speaker 2: that is also going to last you forever. You know 296 00:12:54,585 --> 00:12:57,665 Speaker 2: the candle brand more you would know it has. Yeah, yeah, 297 00:12:57,745 --> 00:13:00,225 Speaker 2: they do really beautiful ones. There's one admire I never 298 00:13:00,305 --> 00:13:02,385 Speaker 2: have expected that. Well, you're gonna want this. It's called 299 00:13:02,385 --> 00:13:05,105 Speaker 2: snow Gardinia. It's a perfume oil. It's a little roll 300 00:13:05,145 --> 00:13:07,065 Speaker 2: on that's nine meal. Most of these are ten meal 301 00:13:07,585 --> 00:13:10,065 Speaker 2: full price twenty two ninety five at the time recording 302 00:13:10,065 --> 00:13:13,145 Speaker 2: at my it's on sale and it is just so beautiful. 303 00:13:13,145 --> 00:13:15,705 Speaker 2: It's guardenia and fresh, but because it's an oil, it 304 00:13:15,785 --> 00:13:18,025 Speaker 2: lasts longer. One more and then I'll hand over to 305 00:13:18,105 --> 00:13:21,585 Speaker 2: Kelly a Yu. That's quite like literally how I would 306 00:13:21,585 --> 00:13:22,905 Speaker 2: say it, But I don't know if that's right. They've 307 00:13:22,905 --> 00:13:26,025 Speaker 2: got a bunch of them. The Roomy is my favorite one. 308 00:13:26,105 --> 00:13:31,105 Speaker 2: So this is Jasmine orange blossom, Tonka Bean. It's so beautiful. 309 00:13:31,385 --> 00:13:34,265 Speaker 3: Um. Yeah, So you can get the fifteen meal rollerball 310 00:13:34,545 --> 00:13:35,665 Speaker 3: for sixty five dollars. 311 00:13:36,105 --> 00:13:38,225 Speaker 2: Oh okay, and then they're good to have in your bag. Yeah, 312 00:13:38,425 --> 00:13:40,065 Speaker 2: you know, whatever, what are you going to say? 313 00:13:40,225 --> 00:13:43,785 Speaker 4: So I have two new ones that I've recently discovered 314 00:13:43,785 --> 00:13:45,145 Speaker 4: because I was like, I'm not going to go through 315 00:13:45,185 --> 00:13:47,305 Speaker 4: all of every single one that I've ever loved. 316 00:13:47,345 --> 00:13:48,825 Speaker 1: That would fit into this category. 317 00:13:48,865 --> 00:13:51,225 Speaker 4: But it's just like look at the notes and make 318 00:13:51,265 --> 00:13:54,985 Speaker 4: sure that it's an EDP and it's got something heady 319 00:13:55,185 --> 00:13:57,945 Speaker 4: at the base. But the two that I'm loving at 320 00:13:57,945 --> 00:14:02,425 Speaker 4: the moment is nest Vanilla, bourbon EDP. 321 00:14:02,825 --> 00:14:04,585 Speaker 2: You brought that strawberry one the other week that was 322 00:14:04,585 --> 00:14:07,785 Speaker 2: also was a perfume oil because it's strawberry the way. 323 00:14:07,945 --> 00:14:11,425 Speaker 4: Just don't think very specific person is looking for now. 324 00:14:11,545 --> 00:14:14,905 Speaker 4: Usually with vanilla, I absolutely not. I'm not really a 325 00:14:14,945 --> 00:14:16,025 Speaker 4: Gormand girl. 326 00:14:15,825 --> 00:14:20,065 Speaker 2: But this is Goman means an edible note, so something 327 00:14:20,105 --> 00:14:22,065 Speaker 2: that you could eat in real life, like a vanilla 328 00:14:22,305 --> 00:14:23,505 Speaker 2: or urban bourbon. 329 00:14:23,665 --> 00:14:27,145 Speaker 4: Yeah, but this one, it just smells expensive and it 330 00:14:27,185 --> 00:14:29,545 Speaker 4: doesn't smell cheap and foody. 331 00:14:29,705 --> 00:14:31,305 Speaker 3: You're really get to meet internet, which is. 332 00:14:31,265 --> 00:14:32,625 Speaker 1: What I Yeah. 333 00:14:32,745 --> 00:14:36,665 Speaker 4: So it's got vanilla, brown sugar, jasmine musk. It's the 334 00:14:36,745 --> 00:14:39,305 Speaker 4: jasmine that brings it home, brings it home without it 335 00:14:39,345 --> 00:14:42,945 Speaker 4: being then it's still like really deep and sexy and hot. 336 00:14:43,305 --> 00:14:45,225 Speaker 4: So you get eight meals from Sephora, like a little 337 00:14:45,345 --> 00:14:47,705 Speaker 4: rollable one for fifty five dollars. If you want to 338 00:14:47,705 --> 00:14:49,425 Speaker 4: try it, I mean, go in and never just buy 339 00:14:49,425 --> 00:14:51,065 Speaker 4: a fragrance based on someone's recommendation. 340 00:14:51,225 --> 00:14:54,625 Speaker 1: It's so personal. Well, don't listen toly about that. And 341 00:14:54,665 --> 00:14:57,185 Speaker 1: then the Chloe Atlier de Fleur. 342 00:14:59,025 --> 00:15:03,985 Speaker 4: So this is their range of like really intense beautiful perfumes, 343 00:15:04,025 --> 00:15:07,385 Speaker 4: and this one isn't my favorite, but it's definitely beautiful 344 00:15:07,385 --> 00:15:08,345 Speaker 4: and sits. 345 00:15:08,105 --> 00:15:11,025 Speaker 2: In this wooty tanily. Yeah, because there's a normal version 346 00:15:11,105 --> 00:15:12,905 Speaker 2: than intense. See, I like the intense. 347 00:15:13,105 --> 00:15:15,905 Speaker 4: No no, no, I just mean like in the family. Oh, 348 00:15:16,025 --> 00:15:18,625 Speaker 4: the Atalier. This isn't my favorite, but I think that 349 00:15:18,705 --> 00:15:22,265 Speaker 4: it's really great for cuddier because it's so woody and deep. 350 00:15:22,305 --> 00:15:25,625 Speaker 4: So it's got the veta air, moss, sand wood cardamen. 351 00:15:25,865 --> 00:15:26,425 Speaker 3: I love it. 352 00:15:26,425 --> 00:15:27,545 Speaker 1: It's oh, I love it. 353 00:15:28,145 --> 00:15:31,185 Speaker 4: I just the Lang Lang one. It has my heart anyway, 354 00:15:31,305 --> 00:15:35,545 Speaker 4: So have a sniff. But yeah, just remember edp. Nothing 355 00:15:35,625 --> 00:15:37,825 Speaker 4: fruity or floral too floral. 356 00:15:37,545 --> 00:15:39,865 Speaker 2: Yes, go Kelly. So after the break, we have some 357 00:15:39,905 --> 00:15:42,585 Speaker 2: host hacks. One is a little thing that I did 358 00:15:42,585 --> 00:15:44,905 Speaker 2: this morning. And oh don't think I've told you guys before, 359 00:15:44,945 --> 00:15:56,265 Speaker 2: but if I have, it's a reminder what a you 360 00:15:56,745 --> 00:16:02,345 Speaker 2: makeup hacks. So this is for my dark hair gurlies 361 00:16:02,345 --> 00:16:04,025 Speaker 2: and my gray hair girlies. 362 00:16:04,705 --> 00:16:07,065 Speaker 3: I'm always in a rush I used to be so organized. 363 00:16:07,105 --> 00:16:08,345 Speaker 3: I think it's having children. 364 00:16:08,425 --> 00:16:11,945 Speaker 2: Anyway, My gray roots are about a centimeter each side. 365 00:16:11,985 --> 00:16:14,225 Speaker 2: I have a center part, are they yes? 366 00:16:14,465 --> 00:16:16,505 Speaker 4: Okay, well you need to tell us what you've done, 367 00:16:16,505 --> 00:16:18,905 Speaker 4: because you have got not one little bit of gray. 368 00:16:18,945 --> 00:16:20,905 Speaker 2: Well I do, but I have very dark hair, so 369 00:16:20,945 --> 00:16:23,305 Speaker 2: I literally have a stripe. Normally, when I've got time, 370 00:16:23,345 --> 00:16:25,745 Speaker 2: I prefer to use one of those powders or just 371 00:16:25,745 --> 00:16:28,625 Speaker 2: a very dark brown matte eyeshadow. 372 00:16:28,945 --> 00:16:31,585 Speaker 3: And I this morning I had minus an hour. 373 00:16:31,625 --> 00:16:33,185 Speaker 2: I was running so late, so I get one of 374 00:16:33,185 --> 00:16:36,425 Speaker 2: those shake shake spray cans, you know, like not spray 375 00:16:36,425 --> 00:16:39,505 Speaker 2: can paint like root cover up. I go, and I'd 376 00:16:39,505 --> 00:16:41,665 Speaker 2: put so much on that you couldn't see my part, 377 00:16:42,025 --> 00:16:43,505 Speaker 2: so it looked like I was wearing a helmet. So 378 00:16:43,665 --> 00:16:45,025 Speaker 2: what I do is I get a cue tip a 379 00:16:45,025 --> 00:16:47,065 Speaker 2: bit of my cellar water, and I gosh and run 380 00:16:47,105 --> 00:16:50,345 Speaker 2: it along my part. Yeah, it takes away the root 381 00:16:50,345 --> 00:16:52,705 Speaker 2: cover up and then you look like you have a 382 00:16:52,745 --> 00:16:53,385 Speaker 2: scalp with. 383 00:16:53,385 --> 00:16:55,505 Speaker 4: Not one gray because I can't see any. So she's 384 00:16:55,545 --> 00:16:56,225 Speaker 4: done a great job. 385 00:16:56,505 --> 00:16:58,265 Speaker 3: I like those raids, but most of them, I mean 386 00:16:58,305 --> 00:16:59,505 Speaker 3: the Orbay one. I love. 387 00:16:59,585 --> 00:17:02,145 Speaker 2: It's so expensive and I run out, I was using 388 00:17:02,145 --> 00:17:03,865 Speaker 2: a more refortable one is really good, but your hair 389 00:17:03,865 --> 00:17:06,025 Speaker 2: does look a bit chalky, but hey, it gets you through, 390 00:17:06,065 --> 00:17:07,745 Speaker 2: because who has time to color their hair every ten 391 00:17:07,785 --> 00:17:10,985 Speaker 2: day exactly? So ce tip, cellar water, what can't you do? 392 00:17:12,145 --> 00:17:14,185 Speaker 1: What's yours? I've got another makeup pack? 393 00:17:15,465 --> 00:17:18,425 Speaker 4: So this is for anyone as we once again move 394 00:17:18,505 --> 00:17:22,185 Speaker 4: into the colder season. If you love playing with black 395 00:17:22,265 --> 00:17:25,785 Speaker 4: tones in winter, so black eye shadow, black eyeliner generally, 396 00:17:25,865 --> 00:17:29,025 Speaker 4: when you put it on, you might be like, why 397 00:17:29,225 --> 00:17:31,105 Speaker 4: is it throwing so much blue? 398 00:17:31,145 --> 00:17:33,585 Speaker 1: So say you put black all over your eyelid. 399 00:17:33,945 --> 00:17:35,585 Speaker 3: That happens to me with some products. 400 00:17:35,825 --> 00:17:38,385 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're like, why is this happening? 401 00:17:38,465 --> 00:17:41,425 Speaker 4: It looks a little bit trashy, a little bit washed 402 00:17:41,465 --> 00:17:42,625 Speaker 4: out and cheap. 403 00:17:42,665 --> 00:17:43,465 Speaker 1: It's just not good. 404 00:17:43,545 --> 00:17:46,385 Speaker 4: And yeah, it could be the most beautiful product, but 405 00:17:46,585 --> 00:17:49,265 Speaker 4: if it washes out to a sad blue, it doesn't. 406 00:17:49,345 --> 00:17:52,545 Speaker 2: It happens with one of my favorite textured black eyeliners. 407 00:17:52,585 --> 00:17:53,305 Speaker 3: It's expensive. 408 00:17:53,425 --> 00:17:58,905 Speaker 4: Why because in black products, the undertones are generally blue, 409 00:17:59,385 --> 00:18:02,625 Speaker 4: which is why once it's been sort of like buffed 410 00:18:02,625 --> 00:18:04,785 Speaker 4: out or worn for a little while, it's going to 411 00:18:04,865 --> 00:18:07,145 Speaker 4: look like a blue color. So what you need to 412 00:18:07,145 --> 00:18:11,345 Speaker 4: do is actually use brown as the base to neutralize. 413 00:18:11,745 --> 00:18:13,585 Speaker 4: So if you want to wear a black eye shadow 414 00:18:13,585 --> 00:18:16,665 Speaker 4: as an example, I want you to put brown down underneath. 415 00:18:17,025 --> 00:18:18,265 Speaker 3: Oh makes sense. 416 00:18:18,385 --> 00:18:20,825 Speaker 4: And you are going to have the same thing with 417 00:18:21,225 --> 00:18:24,225 Speaker 4: arms eyeliner if you do a brown first, if you 418 00:18:24,225 --> 00:18:27,545 Speaker 4: want it to really pop and be super pigmented, it 419 00:18:27,665 --> 00:18:29,745 Speaker 4: is not going to wash out at all after that. 420 00:18:29,745 --> 00:18:30,345 Speaker 3: That's so clever. 421 00:18:30,345 --> 00:18:32,425 Speaker 2: I wonder if the opposite could be true, because oftentimes 422 00:18:32,425 --> 00:18:33,825 Speaker 2: my brow products throw warmth. 423 00:18:33,905 --> 00:18:36,825 Speaker 3: Could I put cool anyway? Let me explore that in my. 424 00:18:36,825 --> 00:18:39,185 Speaker 1: Head before try that at home, because I'm not sure. 425 00:18:39,465 --> 00:18:41,505 Speaker 3: Maybe it will be my hostack next week. Yeah won't. 426 00:18:41,785 --> 00:18:42,545 Speaker 2: That is so clever. 427 00:18:42,865 --> 00:18:44,625 Speaker 4: Yes, So if you just do it at home, you 428 00:18:44,745 --> 00:18:47,025 Speaker 4: put like a little bit of brown on your hand 429 00:18:47,145 --> 00:18:49,825 Speaker 4: first and then put black over the top, or just 430 00:18:49,825 --> 00:18:51,825 Speaker 4: put black straight on your skin tone? 431 00:18:51,945 --> 00:18:52,425 Speaker 1: Yes you? 432 00:18:52,705 --> 00:18:53,905 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm going to try it on my hand 433 00:18:53,905 --> 00:18:55,425 Speaker 2: first before I ruined my eyes one day, not that 434 00:18:55,425 --> 00:18:55,705 Speaker 2: it would. 435 00:18:55,705 --> 00:18:59,305 Speaker 3: I just if you don't trust me, you're a makeup. 436 00:18:59,025 --> 00:19:01,425 Speaker 1: With Oh listen, I've just got some hacks that must slave. 437 00:19:02,185 --> 00:19:03,865 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to your beauty And 438 00:19:03,865 --> 00:19:05,865 Speaker 2: if you have a question, send us a dm at 439 00:19:05,865 --> 00:19:08,625 Speaker 2: you Beauty podcast and our produce will send it through 440 00:19:08,665 --> 00:19:09,505 Speaker 2: to us asap. 441 00:19:10,145 --> 00:19:13,105 Speaker 4: You Beauty is produced by Steph McPhee and Lee Stamps, 442 00:19:13,105 --> 00:19:16,185 Speaker 4: with audio production by Tigan Sadler and video production by 443 00:19:16,265 --> 00:19:17,505 Speaker 4: Marlena Cacciotti. 444 00:19:17,585 --> 00:19:28,905 Speaker 2: See You Friday by