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Speaker 3: You ask plenty questions, But first a question from Cassia. Hi, ladies,

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Speaker 3: I've been meaning to email for a long time, but

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Speaker 3: heard you say on the pod that we could DM

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Speaker 3: you our questions. See here I am. My question is

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Speaker 3: how do we support our mouth area to age gently?

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Speaker 3: For some reason, I thought it was the eyes aged first,

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Speaker 3: But I'm in my late thirties and my old hormone

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Speaker 3: latne seems to have weakened the skin around to my mouth,

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Speaker 3: and now I'm getting deep lines, uneven texture, and skin

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Speaker 1: I most wish we could go back to wearing masks.

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Speaker 1: Please help. Oh cass here, Oh yeah, I remember wearing masks.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's true our eyes we often think, oh no,

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Speaker 2: first signs of wrinkles and crows, feeaten, But your mouth

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Speaker 2: is doing just as much moving with just as much

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Speaker 2: muscles as our eyes, if not more.

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Speaker 1: Because your eyes kind of just open and shut.

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Speaker 2: Your mouth chews and smiles and you say you've had

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Speaker 2: hormonal acne around that area, which will definitely weaken the

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Speaker 2: skin and the skin barrier and of course create sensitivity.

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Speaker 1: So you've got a few things going on there.

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Speaker 2: First thing they'll say, if you went to a clinic

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Speaker 2: to look into treatments, they'd say, don't use a straw.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say few vape or smoke, yes, And

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Speaker 2: it's the same thing. A straw is like, you know

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Speaker 2: you're doing that, but come on, I mean straws a

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Speaker 2: band anyway. But there's a few other things that you

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Speaker 2: can do. I think you need barrier support in that

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Speaker 2: can skin. As you say, it sounds like you're very

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Speaker 2: across what's happened. You just don't know how to fix it.

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Speaker 2: Deep lines, nothing really topically is going to help there.

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Speaker 2: Retinol will help a little bit, and that would also

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Speaker 2: help even out your skin tone. It sounds like we're

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Speaker 2: also dealing with some sensitivity. As you say, you're prone

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Speaker 2: to redness. So let's just not worry about the lines

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Speaker 2: because I think it's the area is looking a bit

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Speaker 1: You won't worry too much.

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Speaker 2: I would use sort of a barrier support serum or

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Speaker 2: skincare targeted around that area. It doesn't have to say mouth,

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Speaker 2: but these ones will help. So we've got a Noxa

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Speaker 2: which is all formulated for sensitive skin. They've got the

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Speaker 2: anti wrinkle and Firming Facial serum full price twenty five

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Speaker 2: Noxa is really kind of gentle and formulated for reactive

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Speaker 2: good old TBH Rebound serum is all about strengthening the skin,

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Speaker 2: Fifty dollars. I love that serum. MUGU has another option.

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Speaker 2: It's called the MUGU Amplified Anti Aging Peptide Active Serum

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Speaker 2: It's not gonna work overnight. I would very very very

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Speaker 2: your face. I love the Neo Strata Restore fragrance free

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Speaker 2: mild exfolime and you could use that maybe just once

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Speaker 2: nothing topical is going to correct or erase deep wrinkles.

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Speaker 2: But it's just a beautiful, sort of concentrated think of

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Speaker 2: and the mouth. So everything could be. Everything could be,

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Speaker 2: but a place that has a lot of mobility, and

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Speaker 2: the lines are basically from using those muscles that is

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Speaker 1: So it's a tricky one.

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Speaker 2: I think if you're really concerned about the lines, that's

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Speaker 2: probably a cosmetic procedure in terms of injectables, but just

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Speaker 2: the redness and strengthening and kind of weakened skin, beautiful

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Speaker 3: Do you have any well, and probably guess what I'm

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Speaker 3: going to suggest. I can't ah skin needling.

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Speaker 3: That to Cassier books in for like a bunch of

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Speaker 3: sessions of skin needling, because that is going to help

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Speaker 3: uneven texture. It's generally okay with sensitive and red skin. However,

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Speaker 3: and it's going to be really good just with the

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Speaker 3: needles are basically creating like little micro injuries that the

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Speaker 3: collagen then comes to the surface and so creating more collagen.

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Speaker 3: My skin is strong as shit, Like, yeah, you're strong

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Speaker 3: as I literally used to go red after so many

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Speaker 2: Is like I'm not hurt me. Yeah, and even LED

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Speaker 3: Its well yeah, well they usually will do an LED

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Speaker 3: stuff for home, and yes, there's definitely in clinic things

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Speaker 3: that you can do that will be faster and more effective,

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Speaker 3: but of course a lot more expensive. Yes, But also

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Speaker 3: SBF in that area is so so so important because

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Speaker 3: you're often wiping your mouth or replaying your lippy, and

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Speaker 3: that area doesn't really get a lot, like you'll put

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Speaker 3: it on first thing in the morning, but it's probably

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Speaker 3: the first place that your sunscreen's removed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, unfortunate, but yeah, give those a try.

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Speaker 3: All Right, after the break, we've got a question from

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Speaker 3: nicolesh a little bit of a scandalous question, if you will,

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Speaker 3: about ingredients we don't rate that much.

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Speaker 2: So Nicolette has asked, Okay, so there's so many products

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Speaker 2: and ingredients that it's obviously not possible for one person

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Speaker 2: want to know from my two gurus, are there any

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Speaker 2: ingredients in skin care or haircare you think are overhyped

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Speaker 2: and not as effective as everyone.

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Speaker 3: Do.

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Speaker 2: I haven't put my list in the script because I

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Speaker 3: My first one is topical collagen. It feels nice and

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Speaker 3: it makes your skin like nice. It's fine, but it

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Speaker 3: doesn't actually give your skin more collagen. So the molecule

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Speaker 3: is simply too big to actually be absorbed through your skin.

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Speaker 3: So whenever something's like this is a collagen product, well,

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Speaker 3: what's the point of it?

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Speaker 1: Agreed. I had it on my list too.

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Speaker 2: And it's tricky because the word will often be used

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Speaker 2: in marketing, but it'll be that the ingredient might go

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Speaker 2: through many steps to produce your own collagen, but topical

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Speaker 2: collagen doesn't do anything ingesting collagen. On the other hand,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of promising studies, but it's something that

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Speaker 2: you have to really stick out daily for months and

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Speaker 1: But yeah, topical collagen's kind of just a bit of

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Speaker 2: No, but there's ingredients that will go in and say

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Speaker 2: to your own colligen, wake up, get up, do your job.

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Speaker 2: But that's not collagen. Yes, my first one is beef tallow.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I forgot about that. Continue stop putting

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Speaker 2: take on your face. I'm not putting beef anywhere near

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Speaker 2: my head. Well, you are a vegetarian except when I'm drunk.

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Speaker 1: Cheeseburger's come at me. I love it.

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Speaker 2: There was an article written for Mammeir in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: four that or link to in the show notes, whereby

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Speaker 2: someone spoke to actual experts that said beef tallow is

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Speaker 2: not a good thing to put on your face.

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Speaker 1: It's not shocking, but there is.

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Speaker 2: Far far better, more elegant and well formulated products.

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Speaker 1: It can cause breakout.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of a barrier really, But if it was

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Speaker 2: this kind of newly fan dangled tout and thing all

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Speaker 2: over social media, I mean, beef Thatt's been around for

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Speaker 2: of those things that's come up on social media.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's like then just slapping.

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Speaker 2: Well, everyone was doing it with coconut oil too, you know,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah, it doesn't smell great, doesn't feel great,

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Speaker 2: and there's like specific skincare that I think is better

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Speaker 2: rather than beef fat on your face.

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Speaker 3: Bacucciol I hate it when companies want to market as

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Speaker 3: a retinyl alternative. It's not absolutely not. It's fine, yeah,

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Speaker 3: but would I ever purchase a product because it was like,

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Speaker 3: we've got culchiol in it and it's a retinal alternative.

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Speaker 2: No, I had the exact same thing, So I think

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Speaker 2: bacuccioli is fantastic. It's you know, a naturally derived ingredient.

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Speaker 2: It's very good antioxid and it's got great anti inflammatory properties.

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Speaker 1: Let's not market it as a retinant today. It's just silly.

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Speaker 1: So I've got two more. Okay go. Essential oils, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Oils, but they are a huge irritant for the skin.

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Speaker 2: So we both obviously recently did gradual. I did a

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Speaker 1: Just at home with your potions.

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Speaker 2: But usually what I would do, because there's quite a

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Speaker 1: What's yours? What the actual f Oh? I have nail fungus? Oh,

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Speaker 1: it looks like you've got a smiley face on your finger?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just it doesn't chip, and they sort of ask

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Speaker 1: And I was like, yuck, because that mean I've got

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Speaker 2: got my ale polished back. Why didn't he tell.

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Speaker 1: I just feel my toe hurting because that just.

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Speaker 3: Stops it from breathing exactly. And you need to put

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be four months of my life.

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Speaker 3: Well at least we're going into winter, so you'll be

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Speaker 3: Little little fungus. Like it's not hurting anyone, it's not

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Speaker 2: Why didn't my skin cancer doctor tell me this is

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like this is my pharmacy.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't know. He just knows it wasn't a melanoma.

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Speaker 3: Because I thought mine was a bruise. Anyway, we're disgusting.

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Speaker 3: We are disgusting. Why are we both fungi? So the

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Speaker 1: I did you use that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's called lotteryl. It's an anti fungal nail treatment.

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Speaker 3: Eighty dollars. Oh lord, But you just put it on

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Speaker 1: But like not all the time.

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Speaker 3: But yes, to go out in public, I will be

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Speaker 1: You want to show me.

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Speaker 3: I want to show you my disgusting like, well, god,

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Speaker 2: Anyway, this was a very good medical PSA. As we're

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Speaker 1: Do Please go to a doctor. But it might not

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Speaker 1: At least it's just one.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, on that point, we are two fun guys. Thank

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