1 00:00:11,064 --> 00:00:11,424 Speaker 1: So much. 2 00:00:11,464 --> 00:00:16,024 Speaker 2: You're listening to a Mamma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges 3 00:00:16,144 --> 00:00:19,624 Speaker 2: the traditional owners of land and borders that this podcast 4 00:00:19,704 --> 00:00:27,264 Speaker 2: is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill 5 00:00:27,304 --> 00:00:30,384 Speaker 2: your daily pop culture fixed. I'm Laura Brodneck and I'm 6 00:00:30,464 --> 00:00:33,904 Speaker 2: m Urnham. Welcome to our special movie themed episode. We're 7 00:00:33,904 --> 00:00:37,024 Speaker 2: obviously in that strange random time of the year between 8 00:00:37,104 --> 00:00:39,104 Speaker 2: Christmas and New Year when you don't know what day 9 00:00:39,104 --> 00:00:41,624 Speaker 2: it is. I hope everyone's drinking wine at nine o'clock 10 00:00:41,664 --> 00:00:43,824 Speaker 2: in the morning and eating leftover pavlova for dinner. 11 00:00:44,104 --> 00:00:45,504 Speaker 3: Yeah, the vibe that we're looking for. 12 00:00:45,864 --> 00:00:48,424 Speaker 2: So we're here to talk through the best new movies 13 00:00:48,424 --> 00:00:50,504 Speaker 2: that have come out over this holiday period. 14 00:00:50,864 --> 00:00:53,424 Speaker 3: We need to talk about the beginning of December because 15 00:00:53,464 --> 00:00:56,544 Speaker 3: we were working over time trying to watch all of 16 00:00:56,584 --> 00:01:00,424 Speaker 3: these films, and I think we've nailed the biggest two 17 00:01:00,544 --> 00:01:03,304 Speaker 3: that we want to talk about, not just because they 18 00:01:03,384 --> 00:01:06,104 Speaker 3: were our favorite one of them was my favorite, but 19 00:01:06,144 --> 00:01:08,824 Speaker 3: also they're like the films that everyone's talking about. They're 20 00:01:08,824 --> 00:01:11,264 Speaker 3: the ones that I'm nominated for Golden Globes, which I'm 21 00:01:11,304 --> 00:01:14,064 Speaker 3: so excited to do that episode. But first I really 22 00:01:14,104 --> 00:01:17,704 Speaker 3: want to talk about a cinematic masterpiece. But I briefly 23 00:01:17,784 --> 00:01:19,744 Speaker 3: mentioned on a previous episode of The Spill. 24 00:01:19,824 --> 00:01:21,504 Speaker 2: There was nothing brief about that mentioned. It was a 25 00:01:21,504 --> 00:01:22,024 Speaker 2: whole segment. 26 00:01:22,024 --> 00:01:23,544 Speaker 3: But continue. The thing is, I didn't really get to 27 00:01:23,584 --> 00:01:25,664 Speaker 3: talk about the plot of movie, so we'll see what 28 00:01:25,704 --> 00:01:28,344 Speaker 3: happens now. But I need to talk about the brilliant 29 00:01:28,384 --> 00:01:32,264 Speaker 3: piece of art that is Paddington in Peru. It is 30 00:01:32,904 --> 00:01:35,104 Speaker 3: one of the best movies I've ever seen. I posted 31 00:01:35,144 --> 00:01:37,104 Speaker 3: it on my Instagram stories as a joke, saying, this 32 00:01:37,104 --> 00:01:42,104 Speaker 3: could be my favorite movie of twenty twenty four, and it's. 33 00:01:41,944 --> 00:01:45,064 Speaker 2: Definitely in the top five of all movies of all time, 34 00:01:45,504 --> 00:01:48,224 Speaker 2: or just Paddington four, or just Paddington movies, just pat 35 00:01:49,344 --> 00:01:50,184 Speaker 2: it's only three. 36 00:01:50,504 --> 00:01:52,904 Speaker 3: It's in the top five of my favorite twenty twenty 37 00:01:52,944 --> 00:01:54,504 Speaker 3: four movies. And I'm kind of in twenty twenty four 38 00:01:54,544 --> 00:01:56,504 Speaker 3: because that's when I watched it, But it actually comes 39 00:01:56,504 --> 00:01:58,144 Speaker 3: out on the first of jen so it could make 40 00:01:58,184 --> 00:02:00,704 Speaker 3: it into your twenty twenty five list. So it is 41 00:02:00,744 --> 00:02:03,904 Speaker 3: a third installation. We've got some big names in there. 42 00:02:03,904 --> 00:02:08,264 Speaker 3: It's Olivia Coleman, it's Antonio Menderas, It's Paddington, which I 43 00:02:08,264 --> 00:02:09,264 Speaker 3: pretend he's a real bit. 44 00:02:09,344 --> 00:02:11,224 Speaker 2: And this is in the voice voices Paddington. 45 00:02:11,584 --> 00:02:15,744 Speaker 3: Paddington is voiced by the brilliant Ben Wishort. I'm watching 46 00:02:15,824 --> 00:02:17,504 Speaker 3: in Black Doves. Have you watched Black Doves? 47 00:02:17,584 --> 00:02:18,984 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's with him and Kary Knightley. 48 00:02:19,104 --> 00:02:22,304 Speaker 3: It's so good when you think of Paddington. I always 49 00:02:22,344 --> 00:02:24,224 Speaker 3: thought of like, this is why I pretend that Paddington's 50 00:02:24,224 --> 00:02:27,024 Speaker 3: a real bad because I picture like an old. 51 00:02:26,864 --> 00:02:27,704 Speaker 2: Man and I'm. 52 00:02:29,904 --> 00:02:30,464 Speaker 3: Illusion for you. 53 00:02:30,584 --> 00:02:32,424 Speaker 2: It's like, you can't tell kids that sand it's not real. 54 00:02:32,504 --> 00:02:33,464 Speaker 2: I can't tell you. 55 00:02:35,464 --> 00:02:35,704 Speaker 3: Sorry. 56 00:02:35,704 --> 00:02:37,184 Speaker 2: Everyone's playing this in the car with their kids. 57 00:02:37,424 --> 00:02:40,864 Speaker 3: Paddington is real. So in this installation, if you haven't 58 00:02:40,864 --> 00:02:42,624 Speaker 3: watched the first two, please watch the first two. But 59 00:02:42,664 --> 00:02:44,864 Speaker 3: you don't need to watch the first two in order 60 00:02:44,904 --> 00:02:47,144 Speaker 3: to watch this one because it is a children's movie 61 00:02:47,184 --> 00:02:52,064 Speaker 3: and there's no real big plot line story. That's my 62 00:02:52,304 --> 00:02:56,544 Speaker 3: story Paddington, except that he's always trying to find his 63 00:02:56,664 --> 00:03:01,544 Speaker 3: way home. His sandwich does sandwich. He knows where a 64 00:03:01,624 --> 00:03:04,464 Speaker 3: sandwich is. His marmalade sandwich is always under his hat 65 00:03:04,504 --> 00:03:05,064 Speaker 3: on his head. 66 00:03:05,144 --> 00:03:06,144 Speaker 2: That's actually so smart. 67 00:03:06,224 --> 00:03:08,544 Speaker 3: It's really efficient because he doesn't have pockets because he 68 00:03:08,584 --> 00:03:12,024 Speaker 3: doesn't wear pants, Okay, has a really long coat and 69 00:03:12,384 --> 00:03:15,984 Speaker 3: a little fred hat. And the whole movie it's like 70 00:03:16,544 --> 00:03:19,344 Speaker 3: he just wants to find his way home, because in 71 00:03:19,424 --> 00:03:21,784 Speaker 3: the first movie you see him like abandoned at a 72 00:03:21,864 --> 00:03:27,424 Speaker 3: train station and the brown the Browns family takes him in. 73 00:03:27,744 --> 00:03:30,944 Speaker 3: And there's always evil people like Nicole Kidman. 74 00:03:30,624 --> 00:03:32,104 Speaker 2: Who tried to take him away. 75 00:03:33,424 --> 00:03:36,784 Speaker 3: Here Grant the Coole Kidman, and here Grant try to 76 00:03:36,824 --> 00:03:39,664 Speaker 3: steal him and take him away. In this new movie, 77 00:03:39,704 --> 00:03:42,624 Speaker 3: there's actually two villains, which makes it quite stressful because 78 00:03:42,624 --> 00:03:45,944 Speaker 3: he's also not only fighting against the villains but fighting 79 00:03:45,944 --> 00:03:49,664 Speaker 3: against the nature of the Amazon, and that's really it 80 00:03:49,664 --> 00:03:52,624 Speaker 3: can be really scary at times. And then he's just 81 00:03:52,664 --> 00:03:55,424 Speaker 3: trying to find his family, like where he belongs, and 82 00:03:55,464 --> 00:03:58,544 Speaker 3: it's quite emotional. I think you should all watch that. 83 00:04:00,624 --> 00:04:03,064 Speaker 3: It's really good. It's really good. The kids in the 84 00:04:03,064 --> 00:04:05,464 Speaker 3: cinema loved it. They were laughing so much, even in 85 00:04:05,464 --> 00:04:07,864 Speaker 3: parts where you shouldn't be laughing. But to each their own, 86 00:04:08,184 --> 00:04:08,624 Speaker 3: I guess. 87 00:04:09,184 --> 00:04:11,624 Speaker 2: I mean, we now devoted to two whole sections within 88 00:04:11,664 --> 00:04:15,064 Speaker 2: a week to this movie. Paddington improved, but it deserves it. 89 00:04:15,184 --> 00:04:16,744 Speaker 3: And then a lot of people are saying they didn't 90 00:04:16,744 --> 00:04:18,144 Speaker 3: like it as much as The Fast two and I 91 00:04:18,184 --> 00:04:20,784 Speaker 3: ton't Okay wait, sorry, okay, okay, moving on. I think 92 00:04:20,824 --> 00:04:22,904 Speaker 3: we should do a really trevi on the whole Paddington series. 93 00:04:23,024 --> 00:04:24,704 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can get another co host in for that one. 94 00:04:24,744 --> 00:04:27,664 Speaker 2: So just some other movies in case you don't want 95 00:04:27,704 --> 00:04:29,704 Speaker 2: to see Paddington, some other movie will want to see 96 00:04:29,704 --> 00:04:31,904 Speaker 2: it that are coming out over the Christmas break. 97 00:04:32,104 --> 00:04:33,624 Speaker 3: So a movie that came out on. 98 00:04:33,584 --> 00:04:36,184 Speaker 2: Boxing Day, December twenty six, if you're looking for something 99 00:04:36,344 --> 00:04:39,184 Speaker 2: new to watch this week is Better Man. You across 100 00:04:39,224 --> 00:04:39,744 Speaker 2: this movie? 101 00:04:39,944 --> 00:04:41,744 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen the trailer for it, but I haven't 102 00:04:41,744 --> 00:04:44,144 Speaker 3: actually watched it, so it's definitely to put it on 103 00:04:44,144 --> 00:04:44,904 Speaker 3: my holiday list. 104 00:04:44,984 --> 00:04:46,584 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like you would be into this. It's 105 00:04:46,624 --> 00:04:50,544 Speaker 2: based on the life of Robbie Williams, pop superstar, so. 106 00:04:50,384 --> 00:04:52,584 Speaker 3: It kind of he's like a monkey. 107 00:04:52,944 --> 00:04:55,824 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I was getting that little plot twist. So 108 00:04:55,984 --> 00:04:57,984 Speaker 2: it's from the same director who did The Greatest Showman, 109 00:04:58,144 --> 00:05:01,304 Speaker 2: so that they'll give you an idea of it, so 110 00:05:01,344 --> 00:05:05,184 Speaker 2: that will give you improvement of the kind of movie 111 00:05:05,184 --> 00:05:08,224 Speaker 2: you're in force. So it's told from Robbi Williams's perspective. 112 00:05:08,304 --> 00:05:10,344 Speaker 2: It is like a fictional lies. It's not a document 113 00:05:10,464 --> 00:05:12,704 Speaker 2: about his life or anything like that, and it kind 114 00:05:12,704 --> 00:05:15,384 Speaker 2: of follows his rides from childhood to being in the 115 00:05:15,464 --> 00:05:18,624 Speaker 2: tart Topping boy band, take that through to him becoming 116 00:05:18,624 --> 00:05:21,224 Speaker 2: a solo artist. But yes, the kind of plot twist 117 00:05:21,264 --> 00:05:24,304 Speaker 2: here is that he is played by a monkey, so 118 00:05:24,344 --> 00:05:26,464 Speaker 2: it's the chimpanzee to be if you're not just any monkey. 119 00:05:26,544 --> 00:05:29,104 Speaker 2: John oy Davis does the motion capture, so it's. 120 00:05:28,984 --> 00:05:31,864 Speaker 3: Like sixty chimpanzees who get like the big roles. 121 00:05:31,864 --> 00:05:36,224 Speaker 2: Hey, yes, cgi chimpanzees. And then Robbie Williams voices him. 122 00:05:36,224 --> 00:05:38,904 Speaker 3: WHOA because I think he said that during that peak 123 00:05:38,904 --> 00:05:41,664 Speaker 3: of fame for him, he always felt like a show monkey. Yes, 124 00:05:41,784 --> 00:05:42,984 Speaker 3: so yeah, I can't wait to see it. 125 00:05:42,984 --> 00:05:44,344 Speaker 2: There was a whole thing behind it. They haven't just 126 00:05:44,344 --> 00:05:46,184 Speaker 2: put a monkey in there because Roby Williams didn't want 127 00:05:46,184 --> 00:05:47,584 Speaker 2: to do it. It's a whole kind of movie. So 128 00:05:47,704 --> 00:05:51,384 Speaker 2: better Man. But we've also got Mufassa The Lion King, 129 00:05:51,544 --> 00:05:54,704 Speaker 2: which came out on the nineteenth of December, so that's 130 00:05:54,744 --> 00:05:57,144 Speaker 2: directed by Barry Jenkins. If you're not sort of across that, 131 00:05:57,304 --> 00:06:01,064 Speaker 2: it is both a prequel and a sequel to the 132 00:06:01,104 --> 00:06:04,904 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen live action remake, if that makes sense. 133 00:06:05,224 --> 00:06:09,784 Speaker 3: Yes, So it's about Mafussa, which is Simba's dad who. 134 00:06:09,504 --> 00:06:12,104 Speaker 2: Spoiler alert in the first line, and the story of 135 00:06:12,144 --> 00:06:14,584 Speaker 2: his life is being told to Kiara. So you're seeing, 136 00:06:14,864 --> 00:06:18,264 Speaker 2: oh soo, Simba's telling Kiara the story of his father. 137 00:06:18,464 --> 00:06:20,144 Speaker 2: There's yeah, there's a kind of that element. So it's 138 00:06:20,144 --> 00:06:22,024 Speaker 2: both a prequel and a sequel. So you have all 139 00:06:22,064 --> 00:06:24,584 Speaker 2: the people from the live action Lion King coming back, 140 00:06:24,624 --> 00:06:27,984 Speaker 2: so Donald Glover's back seth Rogan, Billy Eichner, beyond s 141 00:06:28,304 --> 00:06:31,224 Speaker 2: Noel's Carter, and then also the new cast coming in 142 00:06:31,344 --> 00:06:33,944 Speaker 2: like Blue Ivy Carter to play Kiara. So if you 143 00:06:34,024 --> 00:06:36,264 Speaker 2: love the Lion King universe and you just you know, 144 00:06:36,384 --> 00:06:38,464 Speaker 2: want to see this new story bought to life, it's 145 00:06:38,464 --> 00:06:41,264 Speaker 2: the first time we've really seen also because obviously, like 146 00:06:41,264 --> 00:06:44,144 Speaker 2: the live action Lion King was the same story from 147 00:06:44,184 --> 00:06:47,464 Speaker 2: the animated film, and then the musical sticks quite close 148 00:06:47,464 --> 00:06:49,744 Speaker 2: to the animated film, but this is the first time 149 00:06:49,784 --> 00:06:52,784 Speaker 2: because you're seeing the origin story of Movefassa and him 150 00:06:52,904 --> 00:06:54,744 Speaker 2: when he was like a little lion carb it's a 151 00:06:54,784 --> 00:06:57,064 Speaker 2: really new element to it. So nice little time with 152 00:06:57,104 --> 00:06:57,944 Speaker 2: the movies if you're. 153 00:06:57,824 --> 00:06:58,304 Speaker 3: Looking for that. 154 00:06:58,784 --> 00:07:00,184 Speaker 2: So if you're wanting to stay away from the whole 155 00:07:00,184 --> 00:07:02,664 Speaker 2: animal kingdom over this holiday season, I just want to 156 00:07:02,864 --> 00:07:05,344 Speaker 2: recommend a new drama that has come out in cinemas 157 00:07:05,824 --> 00:07:08,424 Speaker 2: this week. So it was also released on Boxing Day, 158 00:07:08,744 --> 00:07:11,104 Speaker 2: and it's called A Real Pay and it's directed by 159 00:07:11,184 --> 00:07:14,944 Speaker 2: Jesse Eisenberg and it stars Kieran Coulkin and Jesse Eisenberg. 160 00:07:15,584 --> 00:07:17,904 Speaker 2: So they're these two cousins, David and Benji, and they 161 00:07:17,984 --> 00:07:21,504 Speaker 2: reunite for this tour of Poland honor their like beloved grandmother. 162 00:07:21,984 --> 00:07:23,224 Speaker 2: And it's kind of just like they're a bit of 163 00:07:23,224 --> 00:07:25,264 Speaker 2: an odd couple, their cousins, but they have very different 164 00:07:25,264 --> 00:07:28,704 Speaker 2: personalities and lives and all these old tensions come back 165 00:07:28,784 --> 00:07:31,584 Speaker 2: as they go through Poland on this trip. So it's 166 00:07:31,584 --> 00:07:33,704 Speaker 2: one of those, like, you know, smaller dramatic movies, and 167 00:07:33,744 --> 00:07:35,384 Speaker 2: it's a real two hand or it's really just based 168 00:07:35,424 --> 00:07:38,824 Speaker 2: on their performances and their chemistry together and they've known 169 00:07:38,824 --> 00:07:40,424 Speaker 2: each other for such a long time and they're both 170 00:07:40,464 --> 00:07:42,904 Speaker 2: brilliant actors, especially Kieran Colkin, Like I think people just 171 00:07:42,944 --> 00:07:44,984 Speaker 2: loved him so much in succession and he got so 172 00:07:44,984 --> 00:07:47,064 Speaker 2: many accolades for that role, but seeing him in a 173 00:07:47,064 --> 00:07:49,264 Speaker 2: different role and seeing he and Jesse bounce off each other. 174 00:07:49,264 --> 00:07:51,304 Speaker 3: I haven't seen Jesse Eisenberg in ages. 175 00:07:51,664 --> 00:07:53,584 Speaker 2: Yeah, he hasn't really had like a big movie role 176 00:07:53,624 --> 00:07:55,584 Speaker 2: for a while. I mean he's been working fairly solidly, 177 00:07:55,624 --> 00:07:57,224 Speaker 2: but there was a while there he was the leader 178 00:07:57,264 --> 00:07:59,784 Speaker 2: of every movie, like through the mid two thousands, so 179 00:07:59,904 --> 00:08:01,584 Speaker 2: a real pain. It's out in the movies now if 180 00:08:01,584 --> 00:08:03,504 Speaker 2: you just want to see like a nice little drama. Ew. 181 00:08:05,904 --> 00:08:08,384 Speaker 3: So, I want to talk about a film that we 182 00:08:08,504 --> 00:08:12,544 Speaker 3: watched early December, but it's actually our to right now, 183 00:08:12,584 --> 00:08:15,424 Speaker 3: so you can watch it right now. It's called Anora 184 00:08:15,464 --> 00:08:19,384 Speaker 3: and it stars Mikey Madison and Nui Borisov. Both have 185 00:08:19,504 --> 00:08:22,504 Speaker 3: been nominated for Golden Globes. And Anora has had so 186 00:08:22,584 --> 00:08:25,624 Speaker 3: many nominations and the Golden Globes as well. And I 187 00:08:25,664 --> 00:08:28,104 Speaker 3: can tell you why. It's because I think it might 188 00:08:28,184 --> 00:08:29,864 Speaker 3: be like my favorite movie. 189 00:08:30,184 --> 00:08:31,904 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I would say it was definitely one of 190 00:08:31,904 --> 00:08:33,544 Speaker 2: my favorite movies from I guess. We saw it in 191 00:08:33,624 --> 00:08:35,864 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four and it's one of those movies where 192 00:08:36,024 --> 00:08:38,184 Speaker 2: I kept hearing about the hype. I mean, it won 193 00:08:38,224 --> 00:08:40,784 Speaker 2: the Palm Door Can't film festival. As soon as it 194 00:08:40,824 --> 00:08:43,664 Speaker 2: started doing the rounds at smaller film festivals, everyone said, 195 00:08:43,944 --> 00:08:46,344 Speaker 2: this movie is incredible, like, you won't believe it when 196 00:08:46,384 --> 00:08:48,904 Speaker 2: you see it. Sean Baker, who wrote and directed it, 197 00:08:49,264 --> 00:08:51,384 Speaker 2: was getting all the accolades. And by the time we 198 00:08:51,384 --> 00:08:53,264 Speaker 2: got to see it here in Australia, because obviously we 199 00:08:53,304 --> 00:08:54,824 Speaker 2: had to sort of wait for a while until we 200 00:08:54,864 --> 00:08:57,504 Speaker 2: had our like pre screening, I was almost like, oh, 201 00:08:57,544 --> 00:08:59,344 Speaker 2: the build up has been too much, like you know what, 202 00:08:59,384 --> 00:09:01,824 Speaker 2: something is so hyped. Yeah, it's hard to go into 203 00:09:01,864 --> 00:09:03,664 Speaker 2: it with an open mind. But when we saw it, 204 00:09:03,824 --> 00:09:04,864 Speaker 2: we were just blown away. 205 00:09:05,024 --> 00:09:11,464 Speaker 3: It was absolutely brilliant. I am an I'm Annie's got yeah, 206 00:09:13,504 --> 00:09:15,904 Speaker 3: fifteen cash up front? 207 00:09:16,224 --> 00:09:25,624 Speaker 1: You if I get married to an American, I wouldn't 208 00:09:25,664 --> 00:09:26,744 Speaker 1: have to go back to Russian. 209 00:09:28,024 --> 00:09:30,064 Speaker 3: Okay, So whould you marry? 210 00:09:30,864 --> 00:09:33,704 Speaker 4: And you and Nora takes this hands and many or 211 00:09:33,824 --> 00:09:41,464 Speaker 4: what what the fuck is going on here? 212 00:09:41,304 --> 00:09:45,744 Speaker 3: And you know you Sack? 213 00:09:45,744 --> 00:09:46,944 Speaker 5: What do you do to get all this? 214 00:09:49,144 --> 00:09:53,264 Speaker 2: I am telling you you do not know this guy. 215 00:09:54,664 --> 00:09:55,864 Speaker 3: Let me tell you a bit about the plot before 216 00:09:55,864 --> 00:09:59,224 Speaker 3: I go into my feelings. Yes, but Mikey plays Annie, 217 00:09:59,264 --> 00:10:02,064 Speaker 3: who's also known as Anura. But she goes by Annie, 218 00:10:02,144 --> 00:10:04,824 Speaker 3: who's a sex worker in Brooklyn, and she kind of 219 00:10:04,864 --> 00:10:09,464 Speaker 3: gets entangled with a Russian billionaire son and she's thrown 220 00:10:09,584 --> 00:10:11,984 Speaker 3: into that world for a few weeks, and you see 221 00:10:12,024 --> 00:10:14,544 Speaker 3: her trying to navigate that world. You see them kind 222 00:10:14,584 --> 00:10:18,584 Speaker 3: of become into a relationship until his parents find out 223 00:10:18,664 --> 00:10:21,504 Speaker 3: about the relationship and try to split them up, and 224 00:10:21,544 --> 00:10:25,344 Speaker 3: then it's like getting like security involved. There's a part 225 00:10:25,464 --> 00:10:28,744 Speaker 3: of it that made me cry laugh and the parts 226 00:10:28,744 --> 00:10:31,024 Speaker 3: of it that made me cry cry yes, because the 227 00:10:31,064 --> 00:10:32,024 Speaker 3: setup is so good. 228 00:10:32,104 --> 00:10:34,424 Speaker 2: So you have Mikey Madison, who has had a lot 229 00:10:34,464 --> 00:10:36,104 Speaker 2: of big roles before. I mean she's been in the 230 00:10:36,144 --> 00:10:38,704 Speaker 2: screen franchise, she's had smaller roles and like once upon 231 00:10:38,744 --> 00:10:40,544 Speaker 2: a time in Hollywood, but this is really her big 232 00:10:40,584 --> 00:10:43,184 Speaker 2: breakout leading lady role. And I've got to say, I 233 00:10:43,224 --> 00:10:46,024 Speaker 2: know we had this breakdown during an emotional breakdown during 234 00:10:46,064 --> 00:10:49,304 Speaker 2: our Golden Globes Nominations episode, but I honestly think she 235 00:10:49,384 --> 00:10:50,904 Speaker 2: is going to get the Oscar. Well, I think she 236 00:10:50,904 --> 00:10:53,384 Speaker 2: should get the Oscar. She's definitely gonna get nominated, But 237 00:10:53,424 --> 00:10:55,864 Speaker 2: I think her performance just is a real standout. But 238 00:10:55,904 --> 00:10:58,504 Speaker 2: it kind of starts off as almost like a more 239 00:10:58,504 --> 00:11:01,144 Speaker 2: realistic pretty woman. I think some people have said that's 240 00:11:01,184 --> 00:11:02,584 Speaker 2: a bit of truth to that is that she's a 241 00:11:02,664 --> 00:11:03,424 Speaker 2: dancer at this club. 242 00:11:03,504 --> 00:11:04,144 Speaker 3: She's so good. 243 00:11:03,984 --> 00:11:06,824 Speaker 2: At a frontal nudity in like the opening scene. Okay, yes, 244 00:11:06,864 --> 00:11:07,864 Speaker 2: there's that Jake Garrington. 245 00:11:07,904 --> 00:11:09,184 Speaker 3: She's really good at her job. 246 00:11:09,384 --> 00:11:11,944 Speaker 2: She she's a dance in a strip club, and her 247 00:11:11,944 --> 00:11:13,664 Speaker 2: biggest thing is like, yeah, she's good at stripping and 248 00:11:13,744 --> 00:11:15,224 Speaker 2: dancing all sort of stuff, but she's so good at 249 00:11:15,264 --> 00:11:18,784 Speaker 2: working the customers in terms of like making them feel 250 00:11:18,784 --> 00:11:21,424 Speaker 2: so welcome and like she changes her personality a bit 251 00:11:21,464 --> 00:11:23,264 Speaker 2: for each customer, of you know that kind of at 252 00:11:23,304 --> 00:11:25,504 Speaker 2: the beginning, they have this sort of montage of her 253 00:11:25,744 --> 00:11:27,584 Speaker 2: finding different men and taking them up to the room 254 00:11:27,584 --> 00:11:29,624 Speaker 2: where she's dancing, and yeah, and you can see that 255 00:11:29,664 --> 00:11:32,104 Speaker 2: she's like almost wanting that sort of companionship as much 256 00:11:32,144 --> 00:11:34,344 Speaker 2: as she's wanting the money and she's doing a job. Yeah. 257 00:11:34,504 --> 00:11:38,144 Speaker 3: And I think what really was something I never saw 258 00:11:38,184 --> 00:11:43,584 Speaker 3: before in cinema was that character of the billionaire son 259 00:11:43,664 --> 00:11:47,064 Speaker 3: who's played by Mark Idelstein. He did such a brilliant job, 260 00:11:47,624 --> 00:11:51,464 Speaker 3: but the breath with of their personalities is so tortured 261 00:11:51,784 --> 00:11:54,704 Speaker 3: that every time he came on screen. I actually couldn't 262 00:11:54,744 --> 00:11:55,504 Speaker 3: figure him out. 263 00:11:56,224 --> 00:11:58,584 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're such layered characters, and that's like I think 264 00:11:58,584 --> 00:12:00,744 Speaker 2: that it's so interesting because it kind of it takes 265 00:12:00,744 --> 00:12:03,424 Speaker 2: this premise that I think has been presented through movies 266 00:12:03,464 --> 00:12:07,624 Speaker 2: before of like the troubled stripper sex worker and like 267 00:12:07,664 --> 00:12:11,464 Speaker 2: a rich, lovely, slightly naive man will come along and 268 00:12:11,504 --> 00:12:13,064 Speaker 2: fall in love with her and sweep her off her 269 00:12:13,104 --> 00:12:15,584 Speaker 2: feet and they'll get married and all and none. This 270 00:12:15,624 --> 00:12:17,424 Speaker 2: is a spoiler. This all happens in like the beginning 271 00:12:17,424 --> 00:12:19,864 Speaker 2: of the movie. It's like this idea that she's lifted 272 00:12:19,904 --> 00:12:22,344 Speaker 2: out of this kind of drudgery of her life and 273 00:12:22,424 --> 00:12:25,704 Speaker 2: brought into this billionaire kids who seems very much like 274 00:12:25,744 --> 00:12:27,704 Speaker 2: a kid, but it also seems like, you know, to 275 00:12:27,744 --> 00:12:30,144 Speaker 2: really be in love with her. And then after that 276 00:12:30,224 --> 00:12:32,144 Speaker 2: you just sort of see the fallout once his family 277 00:12:32,184 --> 00:12:34,744 Speaker 2: find out and people get involved, and there's henchmen and 278 00:12:34,744 --> 00:12:37,464 Speaker 2: people go missing and there's a hunt for someone. And 279 00:12:37,944 --> 00:12:39,544 Speaker 2: one of the things I think I worked so well 280 00:12:39,584 --> 00:12:41,824 Speaker 2: about this movie, along with the fact that the performance 281 00:12:41,864 --> 00:12:43,824 Speaker 2: is incredible and I know it sounds really boring, but 282 00:12:44,304 --> 00:12:47,224 Speaker 2: pacing and stakes, like so many movies I think, lose 283 00:12:47,624 --> 00:12:50,304 Speaker 2: their edge because you know, they spend too long on 284 00:12:50,304 --> 00:12:51,944 Speaker 2: one scene and all the pacing's too long. This is 285 00:12:51,944 --> 00:12:54,344 Speaker 2: a long movie. It's like three hours, right, I got 286 00:12:54,384 --> 00:12:56,024 Speaker 2: a double poor and it was only just a night 287 00:12:56,064 --> 00:12:58,704 Speaker 2: like Avengers. Yeah, it was like an Avenger's length movie. 288 00:12:58,904 --> 00:13:01,064 Speaker 2: But because the pacing is so good, the story is 289 00:13:01,064 --> 00:13:02,984 Speaker 2: so good, like you're leaning in on your seat the 290 00:13:03,024 --> 00:13:06,544 Speaker 2: whole time to watch these events unfold, and like you're saying, 291 00:13:06,584 --> 00:13:08,624 Speaker 2: it's very physical comedy as well. Like you and I 292 00:13:08,624 --> 00:13:11,584 Speaker 2: were laughing so hard when one of those little boutique cinemas, 293 00:13:11,584 --> 00:13:13,384 Speaker 2: so it was quite small, and we were in those 294 00:13:13,384 --> 00:13:15,744 Speaker 2: little like kind of like cute little almost love seat 295 00:13:15,744 --> 00:13:17,904 Speaker 2: things that are conjoined, and you and I were making 296 00:13:17,944 --> 00:13:20,784 Speaker 2: our seats shape because we were laughing so hard. Yeah, 297 00:13:20,864 --> 00:13:22,864 Speaker 2: that kind of ugly laugh when you're like wheezing and 298 00:13:22,904 --> 00:13:23,544 Speaker 2: doubling over. 299 00:13:23,824 --> 00:13:26,384 Speaker 3: It was so so funny, like some certain parts, but 300 00:13:26,504 --> 00:13:28,824 Speaker 3: even as you said, with the pacing and how well 301 00:13:28,864 --> 00:13:32,144 Speaker 3: the characters developed, like I feel like every single character 302 00:13:32,184 --> 00:13:34,024 Speaker 3: in the first half of the film, I had one 303 00:13:34,144 --> 00:13:37,104 Speaker 3: impression about which completely changed in the second half of 304 00:13:37,144 --> 00:13:40,104 Speaker 3: the film. And it has a very interesting and really 305 00:13:40,184 --> 00:13:42,744 Speaker 3: dramatic plot twist right at the end, and it is 306 00:13:42,744 --> 00:13:45,144 Speaker 3: one of those movies that you couldn't believe you were 307 00:13:45,184 --> 00:13:48,464 Speaker 3: cry laughing in because in the end, you just feel 308 00:13:48,504 --> 00:13:50,424 Speaker 3: so uncomfortable with what you just watched. 309 00:13:50,544 --> 00:13:51,944 Speaker 2: I know it really and I love that it kind 310 00:13:51,944 --> 00:13:53,784 Speaker 2: of doesn't give you this ending wrapped up in a 311 00:13:53,784 --> 00:13:55,944 Speaker 2: bow because halfway through, like it does make me hate 312 00:13:55,984 --> 00:13:57,944 Speaker 2: rich people, I've got to say, which I already did, 313 00:13:57,944 --> 00:14:00,744 Speaker 2: but this movie especially made me really but now I 314 00:14:00,824 --> 00:14:02,664 Speaker 2: really hate them, and it kind of made me I 315 00:14:02,704 --> 00:14:04,664 Speaker 2: wanted some sort of vengeance and I wanted, you know, 316 00:14:04,704 --> 00:14:07,344 Speaker 2: I wanted payback, and I wanted certain characters to get 317 00:14:07,424 --> 00:14:09,744 Speaker 2: different things. And then it kind of just leaves you 318 00:14:09,784 --> 00:14:13,664 Speaker 2: in this really uncomfortable moment, especially without leading Lady and Nora, 319 00:14:13,784 --> 00:14:15,864 Speaker 2: and just kind of end lets you sit with it. 320 00:14:16,104 --> 00:14:18,544 Speaker 2: And I thought, that's like, really quite brave filmmaking to 321 00:14:18,624 --> 00:14:20,544 Speaker 2: kind of just leave you sitting in that moment and 322 00:14:20,624 --> 00:14:22,784 Speaker 2: like say, like, as the audience member, you have to 323 00:14:22,784 --> 00:14:24,304 Speaker 2: deal with that. We're not going to hold your hand 324 00:14:24,304 --> 00:14:25,504 Speaker 2: through the next part of the story. 325 00:14:25,704 --> 00:14:29,144 Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, that's exactly what they did, because I felt uncomfy. 326 00:14:29,544 --> 00:14:31,624 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird that so many of us, maybe you 327 00:14:31,664 --> 00:14:34,304 Speaker 2: didn't grow up with this. Grew up watching movies like 328 00:14:34,344 --> 00:14:37,704 Speaker 2: Pretty Woman, where the idea of like being a strippero 329 00:14:37,784 --> 00:14:40,104 Speaker 2: sex work or anything like that was seen as this 330 00:14:40,224 --> 00:14:42,224 Speaker 2: kind of thing that like a rich man. 331 00:14:42,104 --> 00:14:43,064 Speaker 3: Could pull you out of. 332 00:14:43,304 --> 00:14:45,984 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's this really almost like a fairy tale 333 00:14:46,104 --> 00:14:48,624 Speaker 2: current to it, and I think Anorra kind of takes 334 00:14:48,664 --> 00:14:50,824 Speaker 2: that and says like, oh, we got the fairy tale, 335 00:14:50,864 --> 00:14:53,024 Speaker 2: but here's what would actually happen behind the scene. 336 00:14:53,064 --> 00:14:55,064 Speaker 3: So true, that's exactly what they did. Oh my god, 337 00:14:55,064 --> 00:14:56,904 Speaker 3: I didn't even realize until you said it, because like 338 00:14:56,904 --> 00:14:59,904 Speaker 3: with Pretty Women as well, would Julia Roberts like she 339 00:15:00,064 --> 00:15:02,944 Speaker 3: is such a strong willed character from beginning to end, 340 00:15:02,984 --> 00:15:05,384 Speaker 3: like she always kept that, and then with the Nora, 341 00:15:05,584 --> 00:15:07,504 Speaker 3: you see her start up a strong will, but then 342 00:15:07,544 --> 00:15:10,624 Speaker 3: you see her like slowly feel that getting threatened, and 343 00:15:10,664 --> 00:15:13,504 Speaker 3: like what happens when that does get threatened? Yeah, exactly. 344 00:15:13,584 --> 00:15:15,584 Speaker 2: And also I think with Just again, Mikey Madison is 345 00:15:15,624 --> 00:15:18,064 Speaker 2: so good as Anura, but she's such an interestingly written 346 00:15:18,144 --> 00:15:20,624 Speaker 2: character because they do give backstory to why she's in 347 00:15:20,624 --> 00:15:22,664 Speaker 2: this situation, but she's also just doing it as a job. 348 00:15:22,704 --> 00:15:24,784 Speaker 2: She's like, this is my job. I go and do it. 349 00:15:24,864 --> 00:15:26,344 Speaker 2: I do the best I can. I'm there and then 350 00:15:26,384 --> 00:15:28,984 Speaker 2: I go home and I get paid for it, and 351 00:15:29,344 --> 00:15:31,144 Speaker 2: you know that sort of thing. But she's also not 352 00:15:31,304 --> 00:15:33,384 Speaker 2: love lawn, Like, she's not looking to get married, she's 353 00:15:33,424 --> 00:15:35,864 Speaker 2: not looking for a man to pull her out of 354 00:15:35,904 --> 00:15:38,864 Speaker 2: this situation. But when it does happen, she's kind of 355 00:15:38,904 --> 00:15:40,944 Speaker 2: all in because she's like, no, I'm in this family 356 00:15:40,944 --> 00:15:42,864 Speaker 2: and I'm in love with this guy, and I'm going 357 00:15:42,944 --> 00:15:45,744 Speaker 2: to make this work. So she's a very layered, interesting character, 358 00:15:46,224 --> 00:15:48,544 Speaker 2: but also so like the Again, the physical elements of 359 00:15:48,584 --> 00:15:49,864 Speaker 2: this are so good. 360 00:15:50,104 --> 00:15:53,224 Speaker 3: They're so good, Oh my god, Like I don't know 361 00:15:53,264 --> 00:15:55,624 Speaker 3: how they did it, but I never usually laugh at 362 00:15:55,664 --> 00:15:59,064 Speaker 3: physical comedy, and this made me like laugh so much. 363 00:15:59,344 --> 00:16:01,584 Speaker 2: Basically, when you have these henchmen come through and they 364 00:16:01,584 --> 00:16:02,944 Speaker 2: have to go on this sort of hunt, and they're 365 00:16:02,944 --> 00:16:05,184 Speaker 2: going through New York, but not like the stylized like 366 00:16:05,584 --> 00:16:07,464 Speaker 2: sex and the City New York that we often see 367 00:16:07,504 --> 00:16:10,024 Speaker 2: in movies, kind of like different like little burriers and haunts, 368 00:16:10,024 --> 00:16:12,544 Speaker 2: and that's sort of thing. And it's like so much 369 00:16:12,544 --> 00:16:14,504 Speaker 2: of the movie also just takes place in one night, 370 00:16:14,544 --> 00:16:16,784 Speaker 2: which I always find that such interesting. 371 00:16:16,584 --> 00:16:19,184 Speaker 3: Storytelling kind of reminded me of like the hangover movies. 372 00:16:19,824 --> 00:16:21,424 Speaker 2: Yeah, it did in a way in terms of, like, 373 00:16:21,464 --> 00:16:24,544 Speaker 2: we've got this one huge problem we have to solve tonight. 374 00:16:25,104 --> 00:16:28,144 Speaker 2: And as it gets later and later for the characters 375 00:16:28,624 --> 00:16:32,144 Speaker 2: and the stakes get higher and the disasters keep happening, 376 00:16:32,264 --> 00:16:33,184 Speaker 2: it just shows how like. 377 00:16:33,144 --> 00:16:35,944 Speaker 3: They're not like skipping over the dull moments, Like every 378 00:16:35,944 --> 00:16:37,304 Speaker 3: time I thought it was going to jump to the 379 00:16:37,384 --> 00:16:38,304 Speaker 3: next day, it never did. 380 00:16:38,504 --> 00:16:40,104 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always like they're just back in that car 381 00:16:40,264 --> 00:16:43,464 Speaker 2: going to the next place. So yeah, such a brilliant movie. 382 00:16:43,544 --> 00:16:45,624 Speaker 2: And also, like we said, there are villains to an extent, 383 00:16:45,664 --> 00:16:48,144 Speaker 2: but it's not one of those hero villain stories. It's 384 00:16:48,144 --> 00:16:49,584 Speaker 2: a bit like here's a group of people who have 385 00:16:49,584 --> 00:16:52,464 Speaker 2: found themselves in an absurd situation and this is how 386 00:16:52,464 --> 00:16:54,304 Speaker 2: they're going to get out of it. And it's an 387 00:16:54,344 --> 00:16:56,664 Speaker 2: absurdist movie in terms of like some of the scenes 388 00:16:56,704 --> 00:16:59,904 Speaker 2: and things, but just so good. Okay, we're doing that 389 00:16:59,944 --> 00:17:02,104 Speaker 2: thing that people did to me beforehand. We're hyping it 390 00:17:02,144 --> 00:17:06,104 Speaker 2: up too much. Okay, it's just fine, It's fine, Okaye, 391 00:17:06,264 --> 00:17:06,704 Speaker 2: go see it. 392 00:17:06,704 --> 00:17:08,584 Speaker 3: If you love money, you'll love it. If you hate money, 393 00:17:08,624 --> 00:17:10,024 Speaker 3: you'll love it. Just go. 394 00:17:12,144 --> 00:17:14,664 Speaker 2: Okay, this is a movie we have been very excited 395 00:17:14,704 --> 00:17:16,704 Speaker 2: to discuss, and I'm sure many of you have been 396 00:17:16,704 --> 00:17:19,504 Speaker 2: excited to hear it because the night for yourself, well 397 00:17:19,544 --> 00:17:20,984 Speaker 2: you want to I didn't say you liked the movie. 398 00:17:20,984 --> 00:17:23,344 Speaker 2: I said you wanted to talk about it. Because the 399 00:17:23,464 --> 00:17:26,264 Speaker 2: night you and I went to the premiere of Nosferatu, 400 00:17:26,544 --> 00:17:29,944 Speaker 2: we both for we both put up different Instagram stories. 401 00:17:29,984 --> 00:17:31,824 Speaker 2: Did not plan we did not, and I was I 402 00:17:31,864 --> 00:17:32,824 Speaker 2: put it up with the photo. 403 00:17:32,584 --> 00:17:33,064 Speaker 3: Of the screen. 404 00:17:33,104 --> 00:17:35,824 Speaker 2: I was like, I've been waiting all year for this movie. 405 00:17:35,944 --> 00:17:39,624 Speaker 2: What brilliant storytelling, visual elements. I loved it. I couldn't 406 00:17:39,624 --> 00:17:41,864 Speaker 2: have loved it more. Go and see it. I was 407 00:17:42,024 --> 00:17:45,664 Speaker 2: very earnest and very complimentary. And then so many people 408 00:17:45,744 --> 00:17:48,224 Speaker 2: replied to my story, my Instagram story with your story, 409 00:17:48,264 --> 00:17:49,904 Speaker 2: which is just a close up of your face. 410 00:17:49,944 --> 00:17:51,904 Speaker 3: I think I was sitting on the toilet as well. Okay, 411 00:17:51,904 --> 00:17:52,144 Speaker 3: that's a. 412 00:17:52,144 --> 00:17:53,944 Speaker 2: Detail you didn't That's what I do on my thank 413 00:17:53,984 --> 00:17:57,224 Speaker 2: you closve of Emily's face all the information needed with 414 00:17:57,304 --> 00:17:59,344 Speaker 2: her saying I just saw nos Feratu and I want 415 00:17:59,344 --> 00:17:59,984 Speaker 2: to bleach my. 416 00:17:59,984 --> 00:18:04,504 Speaker 3: Eyes, which is actually the best type of movie premo 417 00:18:04,624 --> 00:18:06,864 Speaker 3: I think we've ever done, sing landedly exactly. 418 00:18:06,904 --> 00:18:09,264 Speaker 2: We really set the stakes for this. So before we 419 00:18:09,304 --> 00:18:11,304 Speaker 2: get into our review of the film, just a bit 420 00:18:11,304 --> 00:18:14,304 Speaker 2: of background on nos Faratu. So it's based on the 421 00:18:14,424 --> 00:18:17,624 Speaker 2: nineteen twenty two silent German expressionist film. 422 00:18:17,864 --> 00:18:19,624 Speaker 3: And you know what, this movie should have been silent 423 00:18:19,664 --> 00:18:20,064 Speaker 3: as well. 424 00:18:20,224 --> 00:18:23,344 Speaker 2: Okay, let me get through this. It was called nos Feratu, 425 00:18:23,504 --> 00:18:26,504 Speaker 2: a symphony of horror. This movie has gone on to 426 00:18:26,504 --> 00:18:28,904 Speaker 2: become an absolute cult classic. It's seen as one of 427 00:18:28,904 --> 00:18:32,064 Speaker 2: the defining not just vampire movies, but horror movies of 428 00:18:32,104 --> 00:18:35,384 Speaker 2: its genre. And so much was done with light and 429 00:18:35,464 --> 00:18:38,344 Speaker 2: space and filming that people just think is so revolutionary. 430 00:18:38,344 --> 00:18:41,064 Speaker 2: And I have seen it. It's incredible. The backstory here 431 00:18:41,224 --> 00:18:44,144 Speaker 2: is is that nos Ferasu, which was made in nineteen 432 00:18:44,224 --> 00:18:48,464 Speaker 2: twenty two, is pretty much a straight grab, a straight 433 00:18:48,584 --> 00:18:51,944 Speaker 2: kind of copy and paste of bram Stoker's iconic novel 434 00:18:51,944 --> 00:18:56,224 Speaker 2: which came out at eighteen ninety seven, Dracula. So when 435 00:18:56,304 --> 00:18:59,224 Speaker 2: nos Faratu came out, bram Stoker had already passed away. 436 00:18:59,264 --> 00:19:03,584 Speaker 3: First, yes, the original Nosfarachi silent, the silent one. 437 00:19:03,664 --> 00:19:06,184 Speaker 2: Yes, when that movie came out, and it was pretty 438 00:19:06,264 --> 00:19:09,384 Speaker 2: much the plot of Dracula, but they had changed Dracula 439 00:19:09,464 --> 00:19:11,864 Speaker 2: to be called Count and there are a few other 440 00:19:11,904 --> 00:19:14,544 Speaker 2: small changes. So the character names had been changed, but 441 00:19:14,704 --> 00:19:16,824 Speaker 2: the plot was still there, and they had changed some 442 00:19:16,944 --> 00:19:19,464 Speaker 2: bits of the ending, but it was basically the same story. 443 00:19:19,824 --> 00:19:22,944 Speaker 2: And bram Stoker's widow saw it and said, hey, you've 444 00:19:23,024 --> 00:19:27,064 Speaker 2: used my husband's story without permission, without credit, without money. 445 00:19:27,104 --> 00:19:30,224 Speaker 2: It went to court, oh, and a judge ruled in 446 00:19:30,384 --> 00:19:33,744 Speaker 2: favor of bram Stoker's family and said, you have to 447 00:19:33,784 --> 00:19:37,544 Speaker 2: destroy every copy of this film because copyright. And then 448 00:19:37,624 --> 00:19:39,504 Speaker 2: I love a lot of yourrections to this. 449 00:19:39,744 --> 00:19:41,224 Speaker 3: But it's such a famous movie. 450 00:19:41,384 --> 00:19:43,024 Speaker 2: Yes, but the thing is. 451 00:19:42,544 --> 00:19:44,904 Speaker 3: Is everyone just pretending they've seen it where they happen really. 452 00:19:44,864 --> 00:19:47,104 Speaker 2: No, no, no, because what happened is a few prints 453 00:19:47,304 --> 00:19:47,984 Speaker 2: had already been. 454 00:19:47,904 --> 00:19:48,824 Speaker 3: Shipped across the world. 455 00:19:48,824 --> 00:19:51,104 Speaker 2: Because this is back in the day you have to physically. 456 00:19:51,224 --> 00:19:53,264 Speaker 3: Count o'lock or ship to the mainland. 457 00:19:54,664 --> 00:19:56,984 Speaker 2: Yes, so a few of the princes did survive, and 458 00:19:57,024 --> 00:19:58,744 Speaker 2: people went on to watch it blu ray. 459 00:19:58,864 --> 00:20:00,984 Speaker 3: Also, I don't if you. 460 00:20:01,024 --> 00:20:02,984 Speaker 2: Get it on blue ray now, So a few of 461 00:20:02,984 --> 00:20:05,904 Speaker 2: the princes did survive. And because in some countries, if 462 00:20:05,904 --> 00:20:07,824 Speaker 2: you don't use a certain character for a certain amount 463 00:20:07,824 --> 00:20:09,624 Speaker 2: of time, it can fall back into the public domain. 464 00:20:09,664 --> 00:20:12,544 Speaker 2: So I do believe it. Some countries where Nosferatu, like 465 00:20:12,584 --> 00:20:15,464 Speaker 2: The Prince survived Dracula was in the public domains, they 466 00:20:15,504 --> 00:20:18,264 Speaker 2: couldn't actually sue, and as time went on, it just 467 00:20:18,304 --> 00:20:20,864 Speaker 2: took on a life of its own. Nosferatu was remade 468 00:20:20,864 --> 00:20:23,344 Speaker 2: many times, Dracula was remade many times. 469 00:20:23,384 --> 00:20:25,944 Speaker 3: So can we still watch the original Nosferatu. 470 00:20:25,464 --> 00:20:27,184 Speaker 2: If you can find it in some places? 471 00:20:27,584 --> 00:20:27,784 Speaker 1: Well? 472 00:20:27,824 --> 00:20:29,984 Speaker 2: I watched a copy when I was in Uni. One 473 00:20:29,984 --> 00:20:31,784 Speaker 2: of my film school friends had a copy, and I've 474 00:20:31,784 --> 00:20:33,984 Speaker 2: seen another copy since then. I think. Actually now someone's 475 00:20:34,024 --> 00:20:38,344 Speaker 2: uploaded it to TikTok so original Nosferatu and TikTok and. 476 00:20:38,344 --> 00:20:40,344 Speaker 3: You probably like part one hundred and one. 477 00:20:40,664 --> 00:20:43,144 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can watch it on there. All that 478 00:20:43,224 --> 00:20:46,464 Speaker 2: to say, Robert Eggers, who is an incredible filmmaker. You 479 00:20:46,544 --> 00:20:48,784 Speaker 2: might know his work from The Witch with Anya Taylor. 480 00:20:48,544 --> 00:20:49,504 Speaker 3: Joy or The Northman. 481 00:20:50,544 --> 00:20:54,824 Speaker 2: He has released his version of nos Ferratu. And what's 482 00:20:54,824 --> 00:20:57,224 Speaker 2: interesting about this is he has put his own creative 483 00:20:57,264 --> 00:20:59,024 Speaker 2: stamp on it, but it's also very much a love 484 00:20:59,064 --> 00:21:00,504 Speaker 2: letter to the original Nosferatu. 485 00:21:00,584 --> 00:21:01,704 Speaker 3: Because I don't want to get sued. 486 00:21:02,024 --> 00:21:03,824 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he did go through the proper checks 487 00:21:03,824 --> 00:21:06,344 Speaker 2: and balances for this no one's coming for him. So 488 00:21:06,984 --> 00:21:10,304 Speaker 2: in Nosferatu, Lily Rose Debt plays a woman called Ella 489 00:21:10,424 --> 00:21:13,944 Speaker 2: and who's always been stalked by this very dark presence, 490 00:21:14,344 --> 00:21:16,744 Speaker 2: but she's kind of pulled her life together and she's 491 00:21:16,784 --> 00:21:18,584 Speaker 2: married Nicholas Holt and the two of. 492 00:21:18,544 --> 00:21:22,464 Speaker 3: Them okay, yes, stalked, right, but in the beginning she 493 00:21:22,544 --> 00:21:23,584 Speaker 3: kind of invites in. 494 00:21:23,984 --> 00:21:26,064 Speaker 2: It's one of those kind of things where she both 495 00:21:26,344 --> 00:21:29,064 Speaker 2: was lonely and called in this dark presence, but now 496 00:21:29,064 --> 00:21:31,464 Speaker 2: he's also being controlled by her, and like she was 497 00:21:31,504 --> 00:21:34,024 Speaker 2: shunned by her family, different people for many years when 498 00:21:34,024 --> 00:21:37,064 Speaker 2: she was like an adolescence because of this these like 499 00:21:37,224 --> 00:21:39,184 Speaker 2: weird turns she was having. So she's had all that, 500 00:21:39,504 --> 00:21:40,064 Speaker 2: but now. 501 00:21:39,904 --> 00:21:41,824 Speaker 3: She's having sex with the ghost. 502 00:21:42,144 --> 00:21:45,744 Speaker 2: Yes again spoilers. So Ellen is married to Thomas Nicholas 503 00:21:45,784 --> 00:21:49,184 Speaker 2: Holt's character, So they're very much in love. It's very sweet. 504 00:21:49,224 --> 00:21:52,424 Speaker 2: They're living in a small German town and Thomas works 505 00:21:52,464 --> 00:21:54,704 Speaker 2: in real estate and so he's wanting to make some 506 00:21:54,744 --> 00:21:56,224 Speaker 2: money because you know, he's a married man. Now he's 507 00:21:56,224 --> 00:21:58,144 Speaker 2: got to buy them a house and he may have 508 00:21:58,144 --> 00:22:01,144 Speaker 2: his kids, yes, and it's all very expensive to be married. 509 00:22:01,424 --> 00:22:06,624 Speaker 2: So he takes this assignment to travel. They never say Transylvania, 510 00:22:06,664 --> 00:22:09,424 Speaker 2: but he travel out to the I kind. 511 00:22:09,224 --> 00:22:11,384 Speaker 3: Of like they never said Pansylvania, because I feel like 512 00:22:11,424 --> 00:22:15,704 Speaker 3: once you say those like words like Transylvania, Dracula kind 513 00:22:15,704 --> 00:22:17,464 Speaker 3: of pulls you out. Yeah, exactly. 514 00:22:17,504 --> 00:22:18,944 Speaker 2: And again that's not nothing that they said in the 515 00:22:18,984 --> 00:22:21,544 Speaker 2: original Nosfa too, so that's different. So he goes on 516 00:22:21,664 --> 00:22:24,824 Speaker 2: a very long voyage to the Karpathian Mountains, like way 517 00:22:24,824 --> 00:22:25,184 Speaker 2: out in. 518 00:22:25,144 --> 00:22:27,104 Speaker 3: Europe and really scary place. 519 00:22:27,544 --> 00:22:30,544 Speaker 2: Yes, to visit this count orlock who is meant to 520 00:22:30,544 --> 00:22:32,664 Speaker 2: be this like eccentric millionaire who lives in a castle. 521 00:22:32,704 --> 00:22:34,264 Speaker 2: Should have been your first clue something was wrong. 522 00:22:34,344 --> 00:22:38,904 Speaker 3: Can I ask a dumb question. It's Transylvania real. Yes, 523 00:22:39,144 --> 00:22:40,664 Speaker 3: it's a real place. It's a real place. 524 00:22:41,344 --> 00:22:42,704 Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? Actually? 525 00:22:43,304 --> 00:22:44,904 Speaker 3: Yes? Do people go there. 526 00:22:45,104 --> 00:22:48,104 Speaker 2: It's a real place. It's in Romania. That's crazy. 527 00:22:48,224 --> 00:22:50,664 Speaker 3: You can go and you can visit there. The people 528 00:22:50,704 --> 00:22:54,824 Speaker 3: there are they scared. Gus A moment really affected me, 529 00:22:54,944 --> 00:22:55,584 Speaker 3: like it really. 530 00:22:55,624 --> 00:22:56,984 Speaker 2: I don't know if I can speak for all people 531 00:22:56,984 --> 00:22:59,544 Speaker 2: who live in Transylvania, but I'm assuming they're I've. 532 00:22:59,464 --> 00:23:00,384 Speaker 3: Been getting nightmares. 533 00:23:00,584 --> 00:23:03,024 Speaker 2: So Transylvania is a really weird place, like we should go. 534 00:23:03,824 --> 00:23:05,744 Speaker 2: I've actually thought of that. I've wanted to go too, 535 00:23:05,784 --> 00:23:07,944 Speaker 2: because I have. Again, not to take us off track, 536 00:23:08,024 --> 00:23:10,304 Speaker 2: but I am a huge Bran Stokers. Dracula the book 537 00:23:10,464 --> 00:23:12,784 Speaker 2: is one of my favorite books of all time. So 538 00:23:12,864 --> 00:23:15,344 Speaker 2: I had actually traveled to his hometown to see some 539 00:23:15,384 --> 00:23:17,544 Speaker 2: of the places he lived, and I went to Sligo, 540 00:23:17,624 --> 00:23:20,264 Speaker 2: which is an island, and that's where he got some 541 00:23:20,304 --> 00:23:22,264 Speaker 2: of the idea for Dracula, not all of it, but 542 00:23:22,344 --> 00:23:25,104 Speaker 2: the graves in Sligo are made from this material that 543 00:23:25,224 --> 00:23:28,064 Speaker 2: couldn't withstand to the weather, and so they've all cracked 544 00:23:28,104 --> 00:23:29,624 Speaker 2: down the middle, and so you can go in. I 545 00:23:29,624 --> 00:23:32,144 Speaker 2: stood next to these cracked graves, and when bram Stoker 546 00:23:32,224 --> 00:23:34,784 Speaker 2: saw that, it gave him the idea of like people 547 00:23:34,904 --> 00:23:37,944 Speaker 2: rising from their coffins and people coming out, so you 548 00:23:37,944 --> 00:23:39,104 Speaker 2: can go and see those graves. 549 00:23:39,184 --> 00:23:41,464 Speaker 3: Oh my god, we should go. I'm so sorry for 550 00:23:41,544 --> 00:23:45,864 Speaker 3: anyone who's from there. I'm clearly uncultured anyway. So this movie, yes, 551 00:23:45,944 --> 00:23:48,624 Speaker 3: I mean back to that movie. So Ellen very much 552 00:23:48,624 --> 00:23:50,704 Speaker 3: doesn't want Thomas to go because she's having visions they're 553 00:23:50,704 --> 00:23:52,864 Speaker 3: all going to die. Of course, no one listens to her. 554 00:23:53,184 --> 00:23:56,944 Speaker 3: Thomas travels to count Orlock's castle. And this is where 555 00:23:56,984 --> 00:23:58,984 Speaker 3: I should say, as much as some of this movie 556 00:23:59,144 --> 00:24:02,744 Speaker 3: is like very visceral and very violent, very hard to watch, God. 557 00:24:02,624 --> 00:24:05,944 Speaker 2: Damn, this is one of the most beautifully shot movies 558 00:24:06,064 --> 00:24:08,544 Speaker 2: I have ever seen. Like, didn't you think I know 559 00:24:08,584 --> 00:24:09,984 Speaker 2: that you didn't like any you thought it was gross, 560 00:24:09,984 --> 00:24:11,504 Speaker 2: But didn't you think it was just beautiful? 561 00:24:11,504 --> 00:24:11,744 Speaker 4: To me? 562 00:24:11,824 --> 00:24:13,344 Speaker 3: It was nice. It was very very nice. It was 563 00:24:13,424 --> 00:24:15,824 Speaker 3: very nostalgic as well, like it reminded me of like 564 00:24:15,864 --> 00:24:17,424 Speaker 3: the classic like horror movies. 565 00:24:17,544 --> 00:24:20,504 Speaker 2: Yes, it's mostly practical effects, which it always works so 566 00:24:20,624 --> 00:24:22,544 Speaker 2: much better. They have this it's an idea of like 567 00:24:22,584 --> 00:24:26,584 Speaker 2: almost claustrophobic horror in some scenes, especially in the castle, 568 00:24:26,624 --> 00:24:29,024 Speaker 2: but the use of like negative space to show fear, 569 00:24:29,064 --> 00:24:32,504 Speaker 2: that the lighting that scene where Nicholas Holt's characters walking 570 00:24:32,504 --> 00:24:35,064 Speaker 2: down those deserted roads after he's been saying that creepy 571 00:24:35,104 --> 00:24:39,264 Speaker 2: village and the driverless carriage comes towards him. 572 00:24:39,344 --> 00:24:41,864 Speaker 3: Yeah, the hallucinations, like you're like, what's real, what's not? 573 00:24:42,064 --> 00:24:44,104 Speaker 2: Honestly, you could just if you're scared of this movie, 574 00:24:44,104 --> 00:24:45,424 Speaker 2: you could probably just watch it with the sound off 575 00:24:45,424 --> 00:24:47,824 Speaker 2: and just take in what it looks like visually, because 576 00:24:47,944 --> 00:24:49,464 Speaker 2: I was just so blown away by that. 577 00:24:53,704 --> 00:25:04,424 Speaker 5: To me, this creature is a force more powerful than evil. 578 00:25:07,504 --> 00:25:15,904 Speaker 5: It's desired is to consume all life on earth. Only 579 00:25:16,064 --> 00:25:18,664 Speaker 5: you can Ridicus. 580 00:25:23,264 --> 00:25:23,624 Speaker 4: Got me? 581 00:25:26,464 --> 00:25:27,824 Speaker 3: So long story short. 582 00:25:27,904 --> 00:25:30,904 Speaker 2: Count Orlock, who let's get it too, plays Count o'lwock actually, 583 00:25:31,304 --> 00:25:32,624 Speaker 2: because this is an actor who. 584 00:25:34,184 --> 00:25:35,344 Speaker 3: It's Bill Scarro's guard. 585 00:25:35,504 --> 00:25:35,584 Speaker 4: No. 586 00:25:35,584 --> 00:25:38,624 Speaker 2: One from the Hot Scars Guard Brothers that family, who 587 00:25:38,984 --> 00:25:40,584 Speaker 2: has had a lot of TV roles. But he also 588 00:25:40,624 --> 00:25:43,304 Speaker 2: played a vampire in a show called Hemlock Grove, which 589 00:25:43,344 --> 00:25:45,464 Speaker 2: I really love. That's like a really kind of creepy 590 00:25:45,824 --> 00:25:48,024 Speaker 2: series vampire. Yeah, he's a hot Vampire's. 591 00:25:47,704 --> 00:25:50,944 Speaker 3: What I wanted him. Okay, he's spoilers. He's not hot here. 592 00:25:51,264 --> 00:25:53,464 Speaker 2: No, so you can't even tell it him. Yes, he's 593 00:25:53,504 --> 00:25:56,864 Speaker 2: really disguised his voice, they've disguised his body. You cannot tell. 594 00:25:56,904 --> 00:26:00,264 Speaker 2: It's bil SCA's guard. And if you thought you couldn't 595 00:26:00,264 --> 00:26:02,984 Speaker 2: te him because he also plays penny Wise in the films. 596 00:26:03,024 --> 00:26:05,304 Speaker 3: But he looks like him, like he looks like Bill 597 00:26:05,464 --> 00:26:08,424 Speaker 3: in Pennywise because Pennywise can kind of get it, so 598 00:26:08,544 --> 00:26:11,064 Speaker 3: he always Count Luck could not get it for me 599 00:26:11,304 --> 00:26:13,064 Speaker 3: or anyone. No, so he is. 600 00:26:13,264 --> 00:26:14,944 Speaker 2: This is why I also really loved at this movie 601 00:26:15,024 --> 00:26:16,904 Speaker 2: is that I think that for such a long time, 602 00:26:17,424 --> 00:26:20,424 Speaker 2: vampires have been maybe co opted a little bit by 603 00:26:20,584 --> 00:26:24,064 Speaker 2: the young adult fantasy romance genre. So I think a 604 00:26:24,064 --> 00:26:26,344 Speaker 2: lot of people have grown up or become accustomed to 605 00:26:26,464 --> 00:26:30,504 Speaker 2: vampires just being sexy creatures of the night, whereas Nosferatu, 606 00:26:30,584 --> 00:26:32,184 Speaker 2: and this is what they did in the original Nosfaratu 607 00:26:32,264 --> 00:26:35,184 Speaker 2: film as well, really takes it back to that idea 608 00:26:35,264 --> 00:26:38,064 Speaker 2: that they are monstrous, that they are demonic, that they 609 00:26:38,104 --> 00:26:41,304 Speaker 2: are these kind of half dead, half living creatures, and 610 00:26:41,344 --> 00:26:44,384 Speaker 2: so they should look like that. So Bill scarisgard as 611 00:26:44,464 --> 00:26:47,624 Speaker 2: Count or o'lock in this movie is he's got this 612 00:26:48,064 --> 00:26:52,344 Speaker 2: animalistic look to him. His body is decaying and falling apart, 613 00:26:52,344 --> 00:26:55,704 Speaker 2: his face is decay. You do get to see him naked, 614 00:26:55,984 --> 00:26:57,664 Speaker 2: but you might not want to. 615 00:26:57,744 --> 00:27:01,064 Speaker 3: You don't want to see that, so Count o'lock. 616 00:27:01,384 --> 00:27:02,464 Speaker 2: Actually, I do think. 617 00:27:02,304 --> 00:27:04,704 Speaker 3: They should have made him a little bit charming or 618 00:27:04,704 --> 00:27:05,704 Speaker 3: handsome when he's trying. 619 00:27:05,584 --> 00:27:08,024 Speaker 2: To seduce her, though, but the whole idea is that 620 00:27:08,064 --> 00:27:10,064 Speaker 2: he's not seducing her because of what he looks like. 621 00:27:10,104 --> 00:27:12,944 Speaker 2: He's reducing her because he has this dark power over 622 00:27:12,984 --> 00:27:16,184 Speaker 2: her and he's no. 623 00:27:16,264 --> 00:27:18,504 Speaker 3: And that's what I wanted from that one moment. I 624 00:27:18,584 --> 00:27:20,744 Speaker 3: just wanted that one moment. My watch The Twilight if 625 00:27:20,824 --> 00:27:22,824 Speaker 3: you want to sex vampire. I just wanted that one 626 00:27:22,824 --> 00:27:25,424 Speaker 3: moment for me to be on Lily Rose dep side 627 00:27:25,424 --> 00:27:26,584 Speaker 3: and be like, I get it. 628 00:27:26,904 --> 00:27:29,744 Speaker 2: Well again, she wasn't to him. She was being driven 629 00:27:29,824 --> 00:27:32,784 Speaker 2: mad by his presence in her head. So he heads 630 00:27:32,784 --> 00:27:34,984 Speaker 2: off to the small German town where they're living, and 631 00:27:35,304 --> 00:27:38,224 Speaker 2: Lily Rose Dep's character is living with Aaron Taylor Johnson's 632 00:27:38,304 --> 00:27:39,784 Speaker 2: character in Emma Corn's character. 633 00:27:40,184 --> 00:27:42,064 Speaker 3: Aaron Taylor Johnson's so hot in this. 634 00:27:42,184 --> 00:27:45,104 Speaker 2: You know who's great in this movie. Emma Corn as Anna. 635 00:27:44,944 --> 00:27:47,104 Speaker 3: She's so good. They're both good. I really like both 636 00:27:47,144 --> 00:27:50,424 Speaker 3: of them. Aaron Taylor Johnson. His role is like playing 637 00:27:50,504 --> 00:27:52,504 Speaker 3: the audience as in like, what the hell's going on? 638 00:27:52,864 --> 00:27:55,264 Speaker 2: I think we should also talking about vampires. That is ridiculous. 639 00:27:55,304 --> 00:27:56,984 Speaker 2: And I was like, sir, in any other time and place, 640 00:27:56,984 --> 00:27:58,864 Speaker 2: I would be on your side, but the vampire is 641 00:27:58,904 --> 00:28:00,504 Speaker 2: in factor real I was still on his sad And 642 00:28:00,544 --> 00:28:03,344 Speaker 2: so when count Orlock arrives in this town, we also 643 00:28:03,384 --> 00:28:06,104 Speaker 2: have Willem Dafoe who's playing kind of the Van Helsing role. 644 00:28:06,184 --> 00:28:10,264 Speaker 3: William Dafoe was the best character in this whole entire 645 00:28:10,864 --> 00:28:12,944 Speaker 3: so he's playing they don't call him van Helsing like 646 00:28:13,024 --> 00:28:15,264 Speaker 3: from the Dracula book, but that's his character of they're 647 00:28:15,264 --> 00:28:18,304 Speaker 3: like kind of eccentric doctor who knows what's going on 648 00:28:18,344 --> 00:28:20,664 Speaker 3: and is trying to sort of help treat Ellen and 649 00:28:20,704 --> 00:28:22,304 Speaker 3: help fight against nors Ferratu. 650 00:28:22,344 --> 00:28:25,504 Speaker 2: Because when Count Orlock arrives in this village, he comes 651 00:28:25,504 --> 00:28:29,784 Speaker 2: in a ship infested with rats, absolutely infested. The rats 652 00:28:29,824 --> 00:28:32,184 Speaker 2: go through the town and people start dying, people start 653 00:28:32,264 --> 00:28:34,584 Speaker 2: sitting into madness, and it's kind of traced back to 654 00:28:34,624 --> 00:28:37,064 Speaker 2: the rats, but it's actually count Orlock feeding on the 655 00:28:37,064 --> 00:28:39,104 Speaker 2: town as he gets closer to Ellen. Do you know 656 00:28:39,104 --> 00:28:41,744 Speaker 2: those rats are real? But actually, just so you know, 657 00:28:41,784 --> 00:28:48,704 Speaker 2: don't see this movie if you have a phobia of rats, darkness, blood, pregnancy, vampires, vampires, 658 00:28:48,984 --> 00:28:52,224 Speaker 2: just anything, any kind of That's the only scene there 659 00:28:52,264 --> 00:28:54,064 Speaker 2: is a scene with a pregnant woman and some rats 660 00:28:54,064 --> 00:28:55,384 Speaker 2: that I did have to look down for a second. 661 00:28:55,424 --> 00:28:57,424 Speaker 2: I was like, oh this is I was like, Robert Eggers, 662 00:28:57,424 --> 00:28:58,824 Speaker 2: I love your work. This is just a bit too 663 00:28:58,904 --> 00:28:59,384 Speaker 2: much for me. 664 00:28:59,824 --> 00:29:04,344 Speaker 3: Even the scene where like she's just having sex like 665 00:29:04,984 --> 00:29:08,664 Speaker 3: with the vampire, but he's not there. It was just 666 00:29:08,744 --> 00:29:10,824 Speaker 3: like a lot of that. There is quite a bit 667 00:29:10,824 --> 00:29:13,104 Speaker 3: of that. I do like William Dafoe though. He's the 668 00:29:13,104 --> 00:29:15,584 Speaker 3: only one who actually understands what's going on right from 669 00:29:15,584 --> 00:29:18,224 Speaker 3: the beginning, and I'm like, finally someone gets it. 670 00:29:18,224 --> 00:29:20,304 Speaker 2: It's so funny because when they're first treating Ellen and 671 00:29:20,304 --> 00:29:22,344 Speaker 2: they have a different doctor come in, it's so of 672 00:29:22,424 --> 00:29:24,344 Speaker 2: the time now too. I was like, nothing has changed 673 00:29:24,384 --> 00:29:26,784 Speaker 2: of like kind of downplaying a woman who's saying like 674 00:29:26,784 --> 00:29:29,344 Speaker 2: I need medical help. She was like, I can't sleep, 675 00:29:29,344 --> 00:29:31,944 Speaker 2: I'm having mania. Help me. And he was like, should 676 00:29:32,024 --> 00:29:33,584 Speaker 2: we get a tighter corset. 677 00:29:33,504 --> 00:29:35,064 Speaker 3: Like maybe tie her down to the bed. 678 00:29:35,264 --> 00:29:37,664 Speaker 2: Yeah, And everyone's like, oh, yeah, we should definitely do that. 679 00:29:37,704 --> 00:29:39,824 Speaker 2: And when William Dafoe's character comes in, he's like. 680 00:29:39,744 --> 00:29:41,744 Speaker 3: What do you mean put her in a different corset. 681 00:29:41,864 --> 00:29:43,704 Speaker 2: She's being haunted by a demon. 682 00:29:44,384 --> 00:29:45,144 Speaker 3: I love again. 683 00:29:45,224 --> 00:29:48,864 Speaker 2: Women's medical issues always downplayed. So yeah, they actually had 684 00:29:48,984 --> 00:29:52,344 Speaker 2: hundreds and hundreds of live rats on the sets, which 685 00:29:52,384 --> 00:29:53,944 Speaker 2: I don't know why. I didn't think even just watching 686 00:29:54,184 --> 00:29:56,224 Speaker 2: they get them from and I don't know rat handlers 687 00:29:56,224 --> 00:29:57,784 Speaker 2: like you have to rats have to be looked after 688 00:29:57,824 --> 00:29:59,224 Speaker 2: on set, the same as like a dog or a 689 00:29:59,304 --> 00:30:01,744 Speaker 2: cat would you have to look after them, which means 690 00:30:01,744 --> 00:30:04,344 Speaker 2: they were just running through these they set up like 691 00:30:04,584 --> 00:30:07,424 Speaker 2: little glass tunnels almost for them. They remove them later 692 00:30:07,464 --> 00:30:09,904 Speaker 2: in post, but you could just see the rats were 693 00:30:09,904 --> 00:30:11,904 Speaker 2: just running all through the set, and every. 694 00:30:11,704 --> 00:30:12,944 Speaker 3: Act there's a lot. 695 00:30:12,864 --> 00:30:14,904 Speaker 2: Of it's so many rats. I've never seen so many 696 00:30:14,984 --> 00:30:17,504 Speaker 2: rats in a movie, and I hate rats. And the 697 00:30:17,704 --> 00:30:19,584 Speaker 2: car said that they just stunk to high hell. And 698 00:30:19,584 --> 00:30:21,744 Speaker 2: then this is also why I think Emma Corn. They 699 00:30:21,784 --> 00:30:23,744 Speaker 2: haven't been nominated for anything yet, but I think they 700 00:30:23,784 --> 00:30:27,544 Speaker 2: should be because Emma Corn said that there are scenes 701 00:30:27,704 --> 00:30:30,944 Speaker 2: where she had so many live rats on her body 702 00:30:31,024 --> 00:30:34,664 Speaker 2: because they had to fulfilming, and so Emma was lying 703 00:30:34,664 --> 00:30:37,344 Speaker 2: there covered in rats, and they said that they were 704 00:30:37,424 --> 00:30:41,624 Speaker 2: burrowing into their hair, burring through their dress, urinating over 705 00:30:41,664 --> 00:30:43,984 Speaker 2: them because obviously rats have no blood of control. 706 00:30:44,144 --> 00:30:46,224 Speaker 3: Oh my god, So all those scenes. 707 00:30:45,984 --> 00:30:48,424 Speaker 2: Where Emma Corran looks terrified, I think they actually were. 708 00:30:48,624 --> 00:30:51,544 Speaker 3: I hope it was worth it. I was terrified. The 709 00:30:51,624 --> 00:30:52,824 Speaker 3: rats scenes are horrible. 710 00:30:52,984 --> 00:30:54,824 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were quite horrific. I was like, bring back 711 00:30:54,824 --> 00:30:58,584 Speaker 2: the creepy Bill Scarrisgard Vampire before I see those rats 712 00:30:58,624 --> 00:31:01,144 Speaker 2: eating the flesh of a human being again, I think again, 713 00:31:01,184 --> 00:31:03,784 Speaker 2: we vampires have been very romanticized through pop culture for 714 00:31:03,784 --> 00:31:05,984 Speaker 2: such a long time, which I love. I love Bram's 715 00:31:05,984 --> 00:31:08,864 Speaker 2: story because Dracula the movie with Ronoa Writer and Keanu Reeves, 716 00:31:08,904 --> 00:31:10,864 Speaker 2: and you have Gary Olwen being like a sex That's 717 00:31:10,864 --> 00:31:12,024 Speaker 2: why keep telling you to watch them, Like, do you 718 00:31:12,024 --> 00:31:14,264 Speaker 2: want to see a sexy vampire? I should watch That's 719 00:31:14,304 --> 00:31:17,544 Speaker 2: the exact same story, but with sexy outfits and no rats. 720 00:31:18,104 --> 00:31:20,904 Speaker 2: We'll run the dream. There's one rat scene okay, the dream, 721 00:31:20,984 --> 00:31:22,824 Speaker 2: but it's quite small, and then the rest of it 722 00:31:22,904 --> 00:31:25,664 Speaker 2: are just really building this very intense horror. But the 723 00:31:25,704 --> 00:31:29,664 Speaker 2: biggest kind of surprise for me of this was Lily Roy's. 724 00:31:29,424 --> 00:31:32,144 Speaker 3: Dep You really like her? I thought she was brilliant. 725 00:31:32,264 --> 00:31:35,104 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's the shocking thing because traditionally I have 726 00:31:35,184 --> 00:31:37,944 Speaker 2: not been a Lily Roy's dep No fam me neither. 727 00:31:38,304 --> 00:31:40,464 Speaker 3: I think a lot of people had a bad taste 728 00:31:40,624 --> 00:31:43,704 Speaker 3: after the idol, and that's not necessarily her, but just 729 00:31:43,824 --> 00:31:45,824 Speaker 3: that whole experience in general. 730 00:31:46,024 --> 00:31:48,104 Speaker 2: Yeah, the idol made me like her a little bit more. No, 731 00:31:48,144 --> 00:31:50,064 Speaker 2: it was that movie Passengers that came out a few 732 00:31:50,104 --> 00:31:52,064 Speaker 2: years ago that she and that was meant her big 733 00:31:52,144 --> 00:31:53,784 Speaker 2: leading role. And I went into that movie with an 734 00:31:53,824 --> 00:31:56,744 Speaker 2: open mind because sometimes you see an EPO baby, especially 735 00:31:56,824 --> 00:31:59,184 Speaker 2: someone with really famous parents, and you see them and 736 00:31:59,224 --> 00:32:01,904 Speaker 2: you're like, oh, I can see this person being famous, 737 00:32:01,944 --> 00:32:03,824 Speaker 2: Like I can see why they got the role, like 738 00:32:03,864 --> 00:32:06,344 Speaker 2: a Kate Hudson or someone like that, even a Jacotah Johnson, 739 00:32:06,384 --> 00:32:08,104 Speaker 2: Like you see them on camera and you're like, oh, yeah, 740 00:32:08,224 --> 00:32:10,304 Speaker 2: this is they would have got the role because they 741 00:32:10,344 --> 00:32:12,704 Speaker 2: would have been the best person in the room auditioning potentially. 742 00:32:12,824 --> 00:32:15,264 Speaker 3: But it is hard not to be extra critical of 743 00:32:15,304 --> 00:32:16,824 Speaker 3: them just because of their position. 744 00:32:16,984 --> 00:32:19,184 Speaker 2: But Lily Roy's Depp was such a bad actress. I 745 00:32:19,184 --> 00:32:20,504 Speaker 2: know she was very young at the time. This is 746 00:32:20,504 --> 00:32:22,384 Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, but she was such a 747 00:32:22,384 --> 00:32:24,704 Speaker 2: bad actress. She was a little bit better in the idol, 748 00:32:25,264 --> 00:32:27,584 Speaker 2: but not much. Like there was a few scenes where 749 00:32:27,624 --> 00:32:29,464 Speaker 2: she kind of made it work. But at that time, 750 00:32:29,504 --> 00:32:31,824 Speaker 2: she really liked this skill to be able to play 751 00:32:31,824 --> 00:32:34,144 Speaker 2: a character without dialogue, which I think is very hard, 752 00:32:34,144 --> 00:32:36,744 Speaker 2: like the camera would be on her and unless she's 753 00:32:36,744 --> 00:32:38,424 Speaker 2: got some sort of big thing to say or she's 754 00:32:38,464 --> 00:32:41,264 Speaker 2: doing something very physical, she can't convey emotion with her face, 755 00:32:41,264 --> 00:32:43,184 Speaker 2: which I feel like is super important for an actor. 756 00:32:43,584 --> 00:32:45,344 Speaker 2: And so when I heard that she was cast in 757 00:32:45,544 --> 00:32:48,704 Speaker 2: nos Feratu, which I was so excited about because again, 758 00:32:48,824 --> 00:32:51,304 Speaker 2: I love vampires. I love Dracula, I love Bram Stoker, 759 00:32:51,384 --> 00:32:52,864 Speaker 2: I love nos Ferrati, even though it was in the 760 00:32:52,984 --> 00:32:54,784 Speaker 2: legal movie. I love all of that. And I was 761 00:32:54,864 --> 00:32:57,104 Speaker 2: so excited that Robert Eggers was making because I love him. 762 00:32:57,144 --> 00:33:00,024 Speaker 2: And then I'm like, Lily Roy's depth as the lead. 763 00:33:00,224 --> 00:33:02,384 Speaker 2: The whole movie hinges on her. She's in pretty much 764 00:33:02,424 --> 00:33:05,784 Speaker 2: every scene, but she was fantastic. She was so good, 765 00:33:05,864 --> 00:33:07,664 Speaker 2: and she's learned how to act, She's learned how to 766 00:33:07,744 --> 00:33:10,944 Speaker 2: carry the storyline with her face, with her performance. So 767 00:33:11,024 --> 00:33:13,824 Speaker 2: much of the storyline hinges on just the camera sitting 768 00:33:13,824 --> 00:33:15,544 Speaker 2: on her and her being able to convey this. 769 00:33:15,704 --> 00:33:18,424 Speaker 3: Horror close ups off her face and like her body 770 00:33:18,424 --> 00:33:20,984 Speaker 3: and that face, but also the movement she had to do, 771 00:33:21,184 --> 00:33:23,064 Speaker 3: like when she's becoming possessed. 772 00:33:22,624 --> 00:33:24,464 Speaker 2: And she's all in in this movie, Like she does 773 00:33:24,504 --> 00:33:28,304 Speaker 2: some pretty very physically horrendous things and some very kind 774 00:33:28,304 --> 00:33:30,664 Speaker 2: of I think, vulnerable things in front of that camera, 775 00:33:31,104 --> 00:33:32,984 Speaker 2: and you can just tell that this woman is all in. 776 00:33:33,104 --> 00:33:35,864 Speaker 3: Yeah, can I say my favorite William Dafoe line. Yeah, 777 00:33:35,944 --> 00:33:38,584 Speaker 3: good god man, he's drinking from your good wife's blood. 778 00:33:39,944 --> 00:33:40,344 Speaker 3: That's the thing. 779 00:33:40,384 --> 00:33:42,104 Speaker 2: As much as we're saying this is horrific and there's 780 00:33:42,184 --> 00:33:44,664 Speaker 2: rats and blood, there are some funny moments in there. 781 00:33:44,784 --> 00:33:46,664 Speaker 3: It's all William to Foe. Yeah, and then maybe a 782 00:33:46,664 --> 00:33:50,264 Speaker 3: bit of Aaron Taylor Johnson. Yeah, questionable remarks exactly. 783 00:33:50,384 --> 00:33:52,144 Speaker 2: He's like, please get out of my house. And I'm like, 784 00:33:52,184 --> 00:33:54,584 Speaker 2: that is a fair call. So not Fara too. It's 785 00:33:54,584 --> 00:33:57,064 Speaker 2: out in cinema's New Year's Day. What a great way 786 00:33:57,104 --> 00:33:59,624 Speaker 2: to start off the new year by going and sitting 787 00:33:59,904 --> 00:34:04,304 Speaker 2: in the cinema and watching this horrific tale, this beautiful, 788 00:34:04,304 --> 00:34:06,744 Speaker 2: horrific tale unfold before you. I'm gonna go see it again. 789 00:34:06,904 --> 00:34:08,864 Speaker 3: Don't do that on Newar's Day. Do it at least 790 00:34:08,864 --> 00:34:09,784 Speaker 3: in the second week of jan. 791 00:34:10,344 --> 00:34:12,224 Speaker 2: Okay, we're going to beg to different that, but not Saratu. 792 00:34:12,264 --> 00:34:13,584 Speaker 2: Please let us know if you go and see it, 793 00:34:13,584 --> 00:34:15,224 Speaker 2: if you're a Laura or an m if you just 794 00:34:15,224 --> 00:34:17,944 Speaker 2: spread fifty, if you were terrified of it, or you 795 00:34:17,984 --> 00:34:20,424 Speaker 2: just because like I know where we have to wrap up. 796 00:34:20,424 --> 00:34:23,544 Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, producer him, but it was horrific and 797 00:34:23,744 --> 00:34:25,344 Speaker 2: the worst thing I've ever seen, and yet I can't 798 00:34:25,344 --> 00:34:26,824 Speaker 2: stop talking about it or thinking about it. 799 00:34:26,864 --> 00:34:29,224 Speaker 3: So take that if you will. Thank you so much 800 00:34:29,264 --> 00:34:32,064 Speaker 3: for listening to the Spill today. Our hot pot summer 801 00:34:32,184 --> 00:34:35,504 Speaker 3: is still ticking along and coming up on Monday, we 802 00:34:35,624 --> 00:34:39,744 Speaker 3: have the wildest celebrity scandals of twenty twenty four. We 803 00:34:39,784 --> 00:34:41,944 Speaker 3: do not hold back on this one. If you haven't 804 00:34:41,984 --> 00:34:43,904 Speaker 3: caught up on all of our episodes, last Monday, we 805 00:34:43,944 --> 00:34:47,664 Speaker 3: also talked about the biggest celebrity breakups and relationship We 806 00:34:47,704 --> 00:34:49,664 Speaker 3: will link that episode in our show notes and we 807 00:34:49,704 --> 00:34:51,464 Speaker 3: will be back here in your podcast wee at three 808 00:34:51,464 --> 00:34:58,464 Speaker 3: pm on Monday. Bye bye, La