WEBVTT - Redefining Your Style Through Perimenopause 0:00:10.745 --> 0:00:15.425 You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Mama Mia acknowledges the 0:00:15.465 --> 0:00:18.545 traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast is 0:00:18.585 --> 0:00:19.225 recorded on. 0:00:21.105 --> 0:00:23.945 Whoever said orange is a new pink with seriously disturved 0:00:24.065 --> 0:00:28.065 laurels for spraying groundbreaking? Oh my god, you have to 0:00:28.185 --> 0:00:29.785 do it. You live for fashion. 0:00:31.225 --> 0:00:34.265 Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that 0:00:34.345 --> 0:00:38.345 solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee Campbell, 0:00:38.385 --> 0:00:41.105 and every week I talk to an expert who helps 0:00:41.185 --> 0:00:42.745 us work out how to get more out of the 0:00:42.825 --> 0:00:45.665 clothes we already own and tells us exactly what is 0:00:45.785 --> 0:00:49.825 and importantly what isn't worth adding to our wardrobes. We 0:00:49.865 --> 0:00:55.065 will all face it eventually, perimenopause and menopause. As I 0:00:55.265 --> 0:00:59.825 enter my own experience, I'm learning just how many symptoms 0:00:59.945 --> 0:01:02.985 can come along with the transition for a full rundown 0:01:03.065 --> 0:01:06.145 on perimenopause and menopause and this whole life stage. I 0:01:06.185 --> 0:01:10.145 could not recommend more. Hollywayen WRTS podcast mid deep dive 0:01:10.185 --> 0:01:12.985 on that whole life stage. Here, though, we're focusing on 0:01:13.025 --> 0:01:16.225 how these changes impact our body. Because there's a body 0:01:16.305 --> 0:01:19.105 type and a body shape, and hormones like to mess 0:01:19.145 --> 0:01:21.945 with all of that, and in turn that might change 0:01:21.985 --> 0:01:25.825 our fashion choices. I've brought back stylist and color expert 0:01:25.945 --> 0:01:29.025 Kim Crowley to explain how our body shapes evolve and 0:01:29.025 --> 0:01:32.065 how we can dress in harmony with these changes rather 0:01:32.105 --> 0:01:35.225 than fighting against them. So, Kim, first you came and 0:01:35.265 --> 0:01:37.425 blew our mind with color. Now we're going to talk 0:01:37.465 --> 0:01:40.385 about body shapes, particularly how they relate to dressing for 0:01:40.465 --> 0:01:46.025 perimenopause and menopause. I am at the opening cave of 0:01:46.465 --> 0:01:49.625 tunnel of perity and I'm feeling all kinds of ways. 0:01:50.145 --> 0:01:53.185 So you want to talk about how our bodies change, 0:01:53.265 --> 0:01:55.505 how to understand our body shape, how to dress for that, 0:01:56.025 --> 0:01:58.865 what flattering even means. So when we say flattering, because 0:01:58.905 --> 0:02:01.785 things have changed a lot and language is changing in 0:02:01.865 --> 0:02:05.705 the industry, which is good. Absolutely talk to me about shapes, silhouettes, 0:02:05.985 --> 0:02:06.905 tell me everything you know. 0:02:08.265 --> 0:02:10.785 We might have a hero up. But I do premise 0:02:10.865 --> 0:02:13.265 this chat by saying that I have these conversations with 0:02:13.265 --> 0:02:18.185 menopausal women, but it's all the dressing strategies and concepts 0:02:18.185 --> 0:02:21.505 are relevant for any woman who's struggling to flatter her body, 0:02:21.505 --> 0:02:25.625 to work out what she feels good in she feels exactly. 0:02:25.225 --> 0:02:27.385 Because Maya talks a lot about when she started to 0:02:27.425 --> 0:02:29.465 go through menopause. She said, her body is trying to 0:02:29.505 --> 0:02:30.225 become a circle. 0:02:30.305 --> 0:02:35.025 Yes that, yes, absolutely, that blob, that circle, that rounding, 0:02:35.345 --> 0:02:36.785 that's what we're going to get to. So we're gonna 0:02:36.785 --> 0:02:38.625 hover over that body shape quite a lot. 0:02:38.705 --> 0:02:40.625 Okay, gosh, we've got a lot to look forward to, 0:02:40.745 --> 0:02:44.185 don't we. All right, so can you begin by describing 0:02:44.545 --> 0:02:47.025 the terms or the different body shapes for women, because 0:02:47.025 --> 0:02:48.905 back when I worked in magazines, gosh, there was apples 0:02:48.905 --> 0:02:51.145 and peers, and yeah, you're probably bringing the perspective of 0:02:51.185 --> 0:02:52.825 creating clothes for women. 0:02:52.625 --> 0:02:54.945 Exactly, and the different shapes of women. And that's why 0:02:55.025 --> 0:02:57.745 being able to give some guidelines around body type is 0:02:57.745 --> 0:03:00.105 brilliant because then it helps with the kind of guidelines 0:03:00.145 --> 0:03:03.065 to what will suit one shape versus another, because obviously 0:03:03.105 --> 0:03:06.745 we're all different. Yes, So generally there's five different female 0:03:06.745 --> 0:03:09.585 body types which are often compared to fruit au, geometric 0:03:09.745 --> 0:03:12.305 shapes and all of the beautiful things that we're compared 0:03:12.305 --> 0:03:15.305 to as women. Yes, however, I have a sixth which 0:03:15.305 --> 0:03:17.225 we'll talk about as well as we kind of go through. 0:03:17.385 --> 0:03:19.865 But the way I measure body type is much more 0:03:19.945 --> 0:03:22.905 by I rather than with the tape measure. 0:03:23.145 --> 0:03:26.185 That gets very scientific and also you can sometimes just 0:03:26.225 --> 0:03:28.065 don't feel great getting out the measuring table. 0:03:28.145 --> 0:03:31.025 Yeah, I don't put a measure tacher in a body's body. 0:03:31.145 --> 0:03:33.865 But basically the way I measure is to compare our 0:03:33.865 --> 0:03:37.785 bodies horizontally, Okay, on the horizontal and then on the vertical, 0:03:37.905 --> 0:03:41.745 like as if I was lying down you mean looking, yes, 0:03:41.865 --> 0:03:45.825 looking outside to side, Okay, So horizontally, that's about our 0:03:45.825 --> 0:03:48.385 two widest parts we might have as women. So number 0:03:48.385 --> 0:03:51.625 one is shoulder and orbust, so this upper region as 0:03:51.665 --> 0:03:54.225 I call it, and then number two is hip and 0:03:54.345 --> 0:03:56.545 or thight lower region as I call it, And that's 0:03:56.545 --> 0:03:59.665 how I'll refer to upper region body lower region, Okay. 0:03:59.705 --> 0:04:03.505 And our body type is how balanced or unbalanced those 0:04:03.505 --> 0:04:06.345 two areas are. That's a lot of what basically when 0:04:06.385 --> 0:04:08.425 we're judging it and we're trying to define it, that's 0:04:08.465 --> 0:04:09.585 what we're kind of looking at. 0:04:09.705 --> 0:04:11.785 So women can kind of work this out by looking 0:04:11.785 --> 0:04:14.185 in the mirror and figuring and nickers in the swimmers 0:04:14.265 --> 0:04:14.905 or something. 0:04:15.185 --> 0:04:19.945 No tape measure ideally in your undies ideally because they're 0:04:20.065 --> 0:04:21.945 flatter generally, Yeah, you can get a bit more of 0:04:21.985 --> 0:04:25.585 a kind of understanding, okay, And often we get confused 0:04:25.625 --> 0:04:27.785 because a lot of female body types are a combination 0:04:27.865 --> 0:04:30.785 of two, and that's when it gets complicated. 0:04:30.345 --> 0:04:32.625 And or has changed. So you used to be this, 0:04:33.145 --> 0:04:35.585 now your body's this one, and that's why the clothes 0:04:35.665 --> 0:04:37.345 you used to love don't feel the same. 0:04:37.425 --> 0:04:40.065 And this is why it's hard, because we might have 0:04:40.185 --> 0:04:42.025 nailed what we used to be, but oh yeah, I've 0:04:42.025 --> 0:04:45.065 got this look, and then fashion changes, or our body changes, 0:04:45.145 --> 0:04:48.305 or our likes and dislikes changes, all of them exactly, 0:04:48.385 --> 0:04:50.305 all at the same time. It feels like over the 0:04:50.305 --> 0:04:52.345 same week, and then you're coming out there and going, oh, 0:04:52.465 --> 0:04:55.865 got nothing to wear exactly. That's what you're here for exactly. 0:04:56.185 --> 0:04:59.305 Okay. So we're going to learn how to work out 0:04:59.345 --> 0:05:01.625 our proportions and then work out what makes us feel great. 0:05:01.705 --> 0:05:03.865 Can you kick things off with the first body type? 0:05:03.905 --> 0:05:07.185 So a rectangle slash athletic? Yes, what is this? 0:05:07.265 --> 0:05:09.265 So this is when you're pretty balanced from your top 0:05:09.265 --> 0:05:11.705 region to your bottom region and with very little curved 0:05:11.745 --> 0:05:14.265 through your body, so you resemble more of a rectangle 0:05:14.385 --> 0:05:17.665 basically from shoulder to hip. Generally you're pretty lean. You 0:05:17.665 --> 0:05:20.185 don't tend to put on weight very easily, otherwise known 0:05:20.225 --> 0:05:22.385 as an ectomorph, and this is actually one of the 0:05:22.425 --> 0:05:23.705 most common body types. 0:05:23.825 --> 0:05:28.385 Okay, okay, interesting triangle, rectangle, Sorry, tangle, I'm not very 0:05:28.385 --> 0:05:30.625 good with my shapes. What's number two? Am I getting 0:05:30.625 --> 0:05:31.425 ahead of myself? 0:05:32.865 --> 0:05:35.785 Inverted triangle? That is exactly the next one inverted, So 0:05:36.025 --> 0:05:38.425 inverted triangle, so the point is at the bottom. So 0:05:38.465 --> 0:05:39.865 an upside down capital a. 0:05:40.225 --> 0:05:41.425 Okay, I like it. 0:05:41.585 --> 0:05:44.225 Yeah, So this is when you're broadest at your top region, 0:05:44.305 --> 0:05:46.865 then you taper towards your hip and thigh, otherwise known 0:05:46.865 --> 0:05:48.545 as a mesomorph. You want to get scientific, but we 0:05:48.585 --> 0:05:50.985 don't have to. You can have a tendency to feel 0:05:51.025 --> 0:05:53.985 top heavy because your shoulder and your bust is your 0:05:54.025 --> 0:05:58.025 widest part. Generally your leg's your best feature, so that's 0:05:58.065 --> 0:06:00.065 often what we want to kind of show off. 0:06:00.185 --> 0:06:05.785 Okay, Yeah, that's a upside down triangle. N three A pair. Okay, 0:06:06.545 --> 0:06:08.785 so appair a lot of women appears quite a lot 0:06:08.825 --> 0:06:11.185 of women, Are you know, raproductive stuff happening? 0:06:11.385 --> 0:06:13.345 Yes, But the thing is we're not often as big 0:06:13.425 --> 0:06:15.105 or as heavy down there as often we might think. 0:06:15.185 --> 0:06:17.905 So sometimes we feel heavy down there, but actually when 0:06:17.905 --> 0:06:19.665 we look at ourselves. I'm not actually you're not a 0:06:19.665 --> 0:06:21.265 pair because when you look in front of the mirror, 0:06:21.345 --> 0:06:25.665 your shoulder and your hip or thigh actually balance out beautifully. 0:06:26.145 --> 0:06:26.945 Do you see what I mean? 0:06:27.185 --> 0:06:28.745 Yes, but no, I want to take all my clothes 0:06:28.745 --> 0:06:30.585 off a look in the mirror, but I won't right now. 0:06:30.625 --> 0:06:33.705 But this is interesting. 0:06:34.025 --> 0:06:36.905 Often they can be a lot more balanced than we think. Okay, yeah, 0:06:36.945 --> 0:06:40.785 it's really interesting. Okay, So a pair is more She's 0:06:40.825 --> 0:06:42.985 basically the complete opposite to number two, opposite to the 0:06:43.025 --> 0:06:45.785 inverted triangle. She is more of a capital a shape. 0:06:46.465 --> 0:06:50.865 She is heavier around the thigh and the bottom, and 0:06:50.905 --> 0:06:55.025 then tapers towards the shoulder. Okay, So basically, lots of 0:06:55.065 --> 0:06:57.865 my pear shapes are very slim waists in comparison to 0:06:57.905 --> 0:07:00.945 their widest parts, so they're often emphasizing that waist. And 0:07:00.985 --> 0:07:03.665 then they have a beautiful curve out and over the hip. 0:07:03.945 --> 0:07:05.945 So you see them and they just look very feminine 0:07:05.985 --> 0:07:08.345 and quite gorgeous. We're looking at a horizontal, but we're 0:07:08.345 --> 0:07:10.585 also looking at a vertical. What I mean by that 0:07:10.785 --> 0:07:14.625 when I'm talking vertical is your torso length versus your 0:07:14.745 --> 0:07:15.305 leg length. 0:07:15.705 --> 0:07:18.905 Okay, and kind of cutting out body in half exactly 0:07:19.025 --> 0:07:20.065 the top and then the bottom. 0:07:19.865 --> 0:07:22.145 Exactly, so it's about four had lengths on the top 0:07:22.265 --> 0:07:25.345 and then four on the bottom. Okay. And so basically 0:07:25.425 --> 0:07:27.665 what generally happens as a pair, if you're putting most 0:07:27.705 --> 0:07:29.705 of your weight on on your bottom of body, generally 0:07:29.705 --> 0:07:32.785 that's where you're the shortest. So often my pairs will 0:07:32.785 --> 0:07:36.825 have longer torsos, and then because they have shorter legs, 0:07:36.825 --> 0:07:39.225 that's where they'll put on their weight. Okay, does that 0:07:39.265 --> 0:07:43.105 make sense? And that's often the case. Obviously I'm generalizing. 0:07:42.625 --> 0:07:42.985 A bit, yea. 0:07:44.745 --> 0:07:47.305 If we've got a longer torso we're spreading out our 0:07:47.345 --> 0:07:51.065 weight over a longer space, and our bottom of body 0:07:51.105 --> 0:07:53.545 is our shortest, and that's where we put on weight, 0:07:53.585 --> 0:07:56.745 and we feel heavier in those areas. 0:07:56.985 --> 0:08:00.025 Okay. So what's number four is. 0:07:59.945 --> 0:08:03.785 An hour glass? Okay, because when we're talking about our glass, 0:08:03.825 --> 0:08:06.865 our glasses, when we're basically two triangles, comes in at 0:08:06.865 --> 0:08:09.665 the waist. So basically her top region is a similar 0:08:09.705 --> 0:08:13.105 dress sizes to the bottom region, but curving in considerably 0:08:13.265 --> 0:08:13.825 at the waist. 0:08:13.945 --> 0:08:14.345 Okay. 0:08:14.425 --> 0:08:16.425 So if we use like the old school measurement of 0:08:16.465 --> 0:08:18.065 defining an outlage. You have to be something I think 0:08:18.065 --> 0:08:20.305 it's nine inches or something different between. 0:08:20.505 --> 0:08:25.345 There was like specific measurements. Oh yes, wow, that's very prescriptive. 0:08:25.385 --> 0:08:28.865 Yeah, exactly exactly, and because you know, back along it 0:08:28.945 --> 0:08:31.985 might have been that obviously, you know, we were particular shapes. 0:08:32.025 --> 0:08:34.225 But nowadays, I mean, diet has changed, the way we 0:08:34.265 --> 0:08:36.425 live has changed a lot. So that's why I mean 0:08:36.425 --> 0:08:37.985 more often a combination of two. 0:08:38.105 --> 0:08:42.745 Yeah. Yeah, you know, we're celebrating individuality in exactly fully 0:08:42.785 --> 0:08:45.945 putting everyone in these buckets. But this is a general guide. 0:08:45.905 --> 0:08:48.385 Absolutely, and we kind of need guides in a way 0:08:48.425 --> 0:08:50.665 to be able to put guidelines because a lot of 0:08:50.705 --> 0:08:54.345 my pairs might not feel very comfortable in a pencil skirt, yes, 0:08:54.385 --> 0:08:56.225 but they would feel more happy in an a line 0:08:56.265 --> 0:08:58.545 skirt that works with their beautiful body shapes. 0:08:58.585 --> 0:09:01.105 Sure, does that make sense totally? So it helps cut 0:09:01.145 --> 0:09:02.905 out a lot of the clutter to start with. And 0:09:02.945 --> 0:09:05.065 you start looking for particular shapes and you think you're 0:09:05.065 --> 0:09:05.865 going to feel good in. 0:09:05.945 --> 0:09:09.265 It's all about flipping script. It's about emphasizing and enjoying 0:09:09.305 --> 0:09:11.665 our best bits rather than going, oh my worst bit 0:09:11.785 --> 0:09:14.185 is this, and I'm do you know what I mean, 0:09:14.905 --> 0:09:17.905 we're flipping it and thinking, actually, I love my long 0:09:17.985 --> 0:09:21.065 legs for example, with an inverted triangle for example, And 0:09:21.145 --> 0:09:23.905 so they'll enjoy that and they'll wear and buy garments 0:09:23.945 --> 0:09:25.505 that emphasize that, and it. 0:09:25.425 --> 0:09:27.745 Just helps to go shopping or once you know this information, 0:09:28.265 --> 0:09:30.305 reassess what's in your order and you're like, oh, that's 0:09:30.305 --> 0:09:31.425 why those. 0:09:32.825 --> 0:09:35.105 Exactly, because it's actually putting a bit of science around it, 0:09:35.145 --> 0:09:37.705 and why those geometric shapes. Although I hate, you know, 0:09:37.825 --> 0:09:39.785 using a lot of those fruit and the shapes, it 0:09:39.865 --> 0:09:41.345 kind of does give us a visual and then you 0:09:41.345 --> 0:09:43.705 can kind of understand what you put the science behind it, 0:09:43.745 --> 0:09:46.505 and it will makes sense. Ah, that's why I go. 0:09:46.505 --> 0:09:49.305 For that neckliine exactly. I've avoided that exactly. 0:09:49.425 --> 0:09:51.865 So a lot of my inverted triangles that feel broader 0:09:51.865 --> 0:09:54.145 across their shoulder. I think it is an amazing thing. 0:09:54.345 --> 0:09:55.905 Your look is stronger and all the rest of it. 0:09:56.185 --> 0:09:58.345 But they might not want to look even wider, so 0:09:58.385 --> 0:10:01.905 they avoid puffs in their sleeves, they avoid heavy shoulder. 0:10:01.945 --> 0:10:04.345 But perhaps I haven't really even known why they're drawn 0:10:04.385 --> 0:10:07.985 to certain Okay, yes, because it's important, I guess also 0:10:07.985 --> 0:10:12.105 to point out that these shapes can any size, size 0:10:12.145 --> 0:10:14.505 six can be size twenty six. Size. 0:10:14.785 --> 0:10:16.425 Not about size at all. You know what I do 0:10:16.465 --> 0:10:18.305 here and really upsets me is a lot of women 0:10:18.345 --> 0:10:20.025 come to me and they're like, oh, I'm sorry, but 0:10:20.065 --> 0:10:23.345 I'm a size twenty. I'm like, why are you apologizing 0:10:23.425 --> 0:10:25.105 to me? I don't care what size you are. Don 0:10:25.225 --> 0:10:27.105 I just care that you know how to wear the 0:10:27.105 --> 0:10:29.185 clothes that are meant for you, because certain clothes aren't 0:10:29.185 --> 0:10:30.745 meant for you. It's the same mccolor. 0:10:30.745 --> 0:10:32.145 I just know how to find stuff that makes it 0:10:32.185 --> 0:10:32.985 feel absolutely. 0:10:33.025 --> 0:10:34.345 I want to introduce you to brands. I want to 0:10:34.345 --> 0:10:37.425 introduce to stiles. I want to introduce you to fabrics, cuts, 0:10:37.665 --> 0:10:41.225 and also little design details that mean that you're gonna 0:10:41.265 --> 0:10:43.385 love and wear this garment. 0:10:43.265 --> 0:10:47.145 And look forward to getting rinkly exactly. Not about size. 0:10:47.385 --> 0:11:00.345 I like that size at all. Flattering. We hear this 0:11:00.425 --> 0:11:02.745 is very flattering on this person that person. Flattering is 0:11:02.785 --> 0:11:08.825 an interesting word and it's been evaluated because I could 0:11:08.905 --> 0:11:13.105 wear a jar and puffy balloon shape. That's not quote 0:11:13.185 --> 0:11:16.145 unquote flattering. If it makes me feel fabulous, yep, I 0:11:16.225 --> 0:11:18.425 feel confident. I go about my day or my vent 0:11:18.625 --> 0:11:21.225 or whatever, and that's good. So what are your thoughts 0:11:21.265 --> 0:11:22.585 on the word flattering while we're here. 0:11:22.705 --> 0:11:24.945 I think that's a really really interesting word. The way 0:11:24.985 --> 0:11:27.225 I define two kind of looks that gen and I 0:11:27.225 --> 0:11:30.385 deal with and I encourage women to dress into is 0:11:30.425 --> 0:11:32.745 either flattering, so flattering your body shape. So once you 0:11:32.825 --> 0:11:36.105 understand your best bits, let's emphasize them, let's go for 0:11:36.185 --> 0:11:38.545 it and let's make a real thing of showing them off, 0:11:38.825 --> 0:11:41.825 or we do fashion. Often fashion can be more oversized, 0:11:41.905 --> 0:11:44.745 it can be baggier clothes, it can be for example, 0:11:44.825 --> 0:11:49.105 oversized blazers, right right, Go for fashion or go for flattering. 0:11:48.745 --> 0:11:51.985 So you'll find out what that particular client's trying to achieve, Yes. 0:11:51.985 --> 0:11:54.585 Exactly, and we'll put them on this makeshift barometer, right, 0:11:54.665 --> 0:11:57.585 flattering at one end, fashion at the other. Yeah, but 0:11:57.745 --> 0:12:00.905 when we start playing with clothes and we're creating looks 0:12:00.905 --> 0:12:03.545 that aren't flattering us our shape, you know, they don't 0:12:03.545 --> 0:12:06.705 show off how beautiful, button waste and whatever, and they're 0:12:06.745 --> 0:12:10.025 not fashion either. They're mediocre. They're the ones it's down 0:12:10.065 --> 0:12:12.065 the middle and they're boring. And so it's really easy 0:12:12.065 --> 0:12:12.985 because if you if. 0:12:12.865 --> 0:12:15.305 You're trying to strike both and you're striking nothing or 0:12:15.345 --> 0:12:16.225 you don't really know. 0:12:16.305 --> 0:12:18.945 Yes, exactly exactly, you're not. Yeah, you're trying to strike 0:12:18.985 --> 0:12:22.185 both because sometimes there's things that are flattering and fashion 0:12:22.265 --> 0:12:24.505 like a white sneaker, Right, how has that been in fashion? 0:12:24.585 --> 0:12:28.465 Ye? You're going to use them amately quote unquote cool. 0:12:28.625 --> 0:12:30.465 Yeah, and they work for everybody. You know, we wear 0:12:30.465 --> 0:12:33.145 them daily. They're comfortable, they tick so many boxes. So 0:12:33.225 --> 0:12:36.985 that's something that's flattering and fashionable. Okay, but often things 0:12:37.025 --> 0:12:39.545 are one or the other. And when we're throwing on 0:12:39.585 --> 0:12:42.385 that old gray oversized top that because we're not really 0:12:42.385 --> 0:12:44.065 sure what to wear with, you know, we've often put 0:12:44.065 --> 0:12:46.585 on a bit of weight. That's the time when we're like, oh, 0:12:46.905 --> 0:12:49.225 feel a bit nah in this? Yeh, feel a bit mediocre. 0:12:49.305 --> 0:12:51.305 We look at ourselves in the mirror. And I mentioned 0:12:51.305 --> 0:12:54.265 this on you know, our shopping podcast Spiral, where we 0:12:54.345 --> 0:12:56.465 look in the mirror like, oh, feel a bit nah 0:12:56.505 --> 0:12:58.665 in this? I think I'm putting on weight, And we 0:12:58.665 --> 0:13:00.985 wear the garment that makes us look like we've put 0:13:00.985 --> 0:13:03.505 on weight. So we look at ourselves in the mirror like, oh, 0:13:03.625 --> 0:13:06.385 don't feel great, I'm going to exist on small. It's 0:13:06.505 --> 0:13:10.185 just we shrink back exactly. We cower, we don't wn't 0:13:10.225 --> 0:13:12.065 stand up, We're not you know, and all that internal 0:13:12.145 --> 0:13:14.905 narrative is different because we're looking at ourselves and it's 0:13:14.985 --> 0:13:16.625 validating the fact that we might have put me and 0:13:16.705 --> 0:13:19.625 we might all that's fine, but we'd want to dress 0:13:19.665 --> 0:13:21.825 to enjoy our body rather than cover it in a 0:13:21.825 --> 0:13:25.225 big blanket or sheet that often we do soon as 0:13:25.225 --> 0:13:26.585 we put on a bit of weight. And that's what's 0:13:26.625 --> 0:13:28.945 really interesting about the menopause side of. 0:13:28.905 --> 0:13:32.305 Things, because traditionally women do put on weight, and particularly 0:13:32.465 --> 0:13:32.985 in the middle. 0:13:33.065 --> 0:13:36.585 But putting on something that is so big and swamps 0:13:36.665 --> 0:13:39.865 us is the worst thing you can do for your confidence. Yeah, okay, 0:13:40.025 --> 0:13:40.785 the trouble this. 0:13:40.745 --> 0:13:42.185 Is where I think a lot of women just don't 0:13:42.185 --> 0:13:44.465 know what to do at this live state. Absolutely back 0:13:44.505 --> 0:13:48.505 to our glass. I mean, I'm thinking Marilyn Monroe exactly 0:13:48.505 --> 0:13:51.905 whether or not that's achieved naturally or not. How many 0:13:51.945 --> 0:13:53.705 of us are actual hour glasses? 0:13:54.105 --> 0:13:57.585 A very small amount, so only about nine percent, if 0:13:57.585 --> 0:13:59.385 you get all scientific, is about nine percent. I mean, 0:13:59.425 --> 0:14:01.585 it's ridiculously small. But as I said, I just look 0:14:01.625 --> 0:14:03.625 at a woman. If she's balanced from her top region 0:14:03.745 --> 0:14:06.425 to her bottom, and she curves the significantly at the waist. 0:14:06.625 --> 0:14:08.345 She can't be a size six, shedn't be a size 0:14:08.345 --> 0:14:08.945 twenty six. 0:14:08.825 --> 0:14:12.025 Don't care. But if there's not that curve in them mi, 0:14:12.025 --> 0:14:13.505 while she's a rectangle exactly. 0:14:13.825 --> 0:14:16.665 Well, what's really interesting. Right when I first started spending 0:14:16.665 --> 0:14:19.225 obviously more time in fitting rooms with women, I was 0:14:19.265 --> 0:14:21.905 putting different shapes on different women. Can be tool, you 0:14:21.945 --> 0:14:24.505 can be fritique. That's the other part of this conversation, 0:14:24.705 --> 0:14:28.665 which complicates our body shape and our body type. But 0:14:28.945 --> 0:14:30.505 what I was putting on a lot of the time 0:14:30.585 --> 0:14:33.105 was actually our glass shape. So basically pyramid on the 0:14:33.105 --> 0:14:35.585 bottom and then upside down pyramid on the top. Okay, 0:14:35.945 --> 0:14:38.065 in terms of say a dress, so you've got a 0:14:38.145 --> 0:14:40.385 dressed maybe with a bit of a puff sleeve. You've 0:14:40.385 --> 0:14:42.825 got a beautiful bit of fit under the bust, and 0:14:42.865 --> 0:14:46.505 then it comes out again an a shape at the hem. 0:14:46.545 --> 0:14:48.425 And a lot of my clients, and a lot of 0:14:48.465 --> 0:14:50.225 them don't feel that comfortable with their body, and they're 0:14:50.225 --> 0:14:52.865 really trying to seek out what would work better someone 0:14:52.905 --> 0:14:55.825 more confident. Absolutely, there's a range, But often i'd put 0:14:55.865 --> 0:14:57.905 an hourglass dress shape on a client and they would 0:14:57.945 --> 0:15:00.225 look up and look in the mirror and oh and 0:15:00.345 --> 0:15:05.225 like look themselves up exactly. Oh, I like what I 0:15:05.225 --> 0:15:07.145 look like in this? What have you done? And I'm like, 0:15:07.425 --> 0:15:09.825 I've just put an hourglass shaped dress on you, So 0:15:09.905 --> 0:15:11.425 let me talk you through the science. And I kind 0:15:11.465 --> 0:15:13.185 of talk them through and that oh oh yeah, the 0:15:13.225 --> 0:15:14.785 colors is coming. It might take too. I love it. 0:15:14.785 --> 0:15:16.785 What shoes can I wear? Oh? How can I access? Right? Oh? 0:15:16.785 --> 0:15:19.625 This is great? What's the jacket? And suddenly they're like, 0:15:19.705 --> 0:15:23.065 something fits me, something makes me feel fantastic, And it's 0:15:23.065 --> 0:15:25.585 that old school hourglass shape. And I was really shocked 0:15:26.065 --> 0:15:28.385 to think when you know, because I thought we'd moved 0:15:28.385 --> 0:15:30.185 on from this, but what it feels like we haven't 0:15:30.185 --> 0:15:32.145 with a lot of the women I see that is 0:15:32.185 --> 0:15:35.945 still such a beautiful, powerful shape, is feminine, and it's. 0:15:35.945 --> 0:15:38.745 It's interest terrible fashion so oversize and like kind of 0:15:38.785 --> 0:15:42.185 androgynous at the moment. Yeah, parts of the fashion world that, yes, 0:15:42.345 --> 0:15:45.145 we forget that sometimes going back to something that's quite 0:15:45.225 --> 0:15:48.625 unquite flattering, and by that we mean you feel fabulous 0:15:48.705 --> 0:15:51.825 in it? Absolutely? Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And you know, a 0:15:51.905 --> 0:15:52.825 timeless in a way. 0:15:52.785 --> 0:15:55.545 Because it's always going to fit your body and that's 0:15:55.625 --> 0:15:57.705 always going to make you feel good. Does that make sense? 0:15:57.745 --> 0:15:58.345 Absolutely? 0:15:58.465 --> 0:16:00.425 And so it's interesting with the oversized thing. You know, 0:16:00.425 --> 0:16:02.145 a lot of my cents are right. I'm experimented with 0:16:02.185 --> 0:16:04.305 over sized blazers. They look really cool. But then they 0:16:04.305 --> 0:16:05.785 took a photo of themselves, like, oh my god, I 0:16:05.785 --> 0:16:08.025 look like a tent. Yeah, but your body's not a tent. 0:16:08.225 --> 0:16:09.625 It's the garment that's the tent. 0:16:09.825 --> 0:16:13.545 Yeah, stop, glean, go back to flattering. Yes, yeah, exactly. 0:16:13.585 --> 0:16:17.305 But because they see a tent like thing on themselves, 0:16:17.385 --> 0:16:19.665 they think they've got that big to look more like 0:16:19.665 --> 0:16:21.865 a ten. Ye know, you've got a gorgeous body under there, 0:16:21.985 --> 0:16:23.825 doesn't matter what size is, but it's still gorgeous. 0:16:23.905 --> 0:16:24.065 Yeah. 0:16:24.105 --> 0:16:25.945 But the tent you're putting on, you can take that off. 0:16:25.985 --> 0:16:28.025 You can choose, you see what I mean totally? 0:16:28.305 --> 0:16:30.425 Okay, let's talk about the fifth body type, an apple 0:16:30.545 --> 0:16:32.465 or a circle, because I feel like as we head 0:16:32.465 --> 0:16:34.785 into menopause, this is what a lot of women feel 0:16:34.825 --> 0:16:36.025 like their body is morphing into. 0:16:36.185 --> 0:16:37.985 That's why I put it at the end, because a 0:16:38.025 --> 0:16:40.305 lot of us feel like there is a real rounding 0:16:40.345 --> 0:16:42.265 of the body. And it's so interesting because a lot 0:16:42.305 --> 0:16:44.785 of my clients, regardless of their body type. So body 0:16:44.785 --> 0:16:48.465 type is what our genetics are. Body shape is often 0:16:48.545 --> 0:16:50.345 the shape that we think we are, depending on the 0:16:50.385 --> 0:16:53.345 clothes we're wearing. Interesting, that's the way I define them. 0:16:53.385 --> 0:16:56.385 Body type is one thing. Body shape. Do you see 0:16:56.385 --> 0:16:56.985 what I do? 0:16:57.065 --> 0:16:57.545 I do I do? 0:16:57.705 --> 0:17:01.465 Because you are the shape you put on around. 0:17:00.545 --> 0:17:04.905 Our body critically and trying to hide massively. You see 0:17:05.025 --> 0:17:06.905 you look in the mirror your undis, which sounds daunting, 0:17:06.905 --> 0:17:07.945 and you go, I want to hide. I want to 0:17:07.985 --> 0:17:10.185 hide that instead of actually really like rashold, really like 0:17:11.345 --> 0:17:12.865 I've got a really great rack. 0:17:13.265 --> 0:17:15.785 Exactly, exactly exactly, That's exactly what it's about. 0:17:16.145 --> 0:17:17.505 So the apple, Yes. 0:17:17.345 --> 0:17:19.625 When we're going a bit more rounded, So basically you 0:17:19.625 --> 0:17:22.465 know that's often our bust and our tummy, which, regardless 0:17:22.505 --> 0:17:24.305 of what body top we are, often we are going 0:17:24.305 --> 0:17:25.625 to put on a bit of weight through our middle 0:17:25.625 --> 0:17:27.545 as we age. It's hormones and all those things. 0:17:27.625 --> 0:17:29.905 Yeah, it's going to happen to all of us, yes, 0:17:30.385 --> 0:17:30.985 but it's. 0:17:30.865 --> 0:17:34.385 How we feel about becoming a bit rounder. And what's 0:17:34.425 --> 0:17:36.585 really interesting, A lot of my can't say, Kim help me, 0:17:36.625 --> 0:17:39.625 I've lost my waist. Okay, you haven't lost your waist 0:17:39.665 --> 0:17:41.985 if you're becoming more apple, your waist has just moved 0:17:42.065 --> 0:17:45.225 up under your bust. It's empire line, you know, that 0:17:45.345 --> 0:17:46.625 kind of bit under our bust. 0:17:46.745 --> 0:17:48.825 Yeah, so when. 0:17:48.665 --> 0:17:50.425 A lot of women go I've lost my femininity, I've 0:17:50.465 --> 0:17:51.905 lost my waist, it's like, no, you haven't done. 0:17:51.945 --> 0:17:53.425