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Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast.

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Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters

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Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded.

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Speaker 1: On Makeup is My Therapy. I'm obsessed and I don't

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Speaker 1: even feel guilty a body.

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Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to you Beauty, the daily podcast for

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Speaker 2: Your Face. I'm Lee Camp, I'm Kelly McCarran, And as

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Speaker 2: we do every Monday, we come to the studio, we

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Speaker 2: talk about products, we answer your very excellent questions.

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Speaker 3: And then at the very end we have a host

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Speaker 3: tac or are we reminder if you will?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 3: And lately Kelly had some zingers. I went into a

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Speaker 3: shop the other day and saw that they sold bobby pins. See,

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Speaker 3: and it made you think of me, didn't it. Well,

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Speaker 3: today I've got another little shopping reminder for you.

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Speaker 2: Before we get to that, we've got two wonderful questions.

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Speaker 2: The ubi's have submitted one about recommending expensive.

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Speaker 3: Products over affordable products, and Lee had a bit of

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Speaker 3: a giggle about my response in the show notes, and

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Speaker 3: I just wrote loll and I wrote, haha.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't help, but wonder asked me anything you ask

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Speaker 1: cleaning questions?

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Speaker 3: Emma has asked Hello, longtime listener, first time questioner and

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Speaker 3: skincare virgin. I just turned thirty and I'm getting married

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Speaker 3: in October this year. I've never had a skincare routine,

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Speaker 3: something I can continue into my thirties. If I do anything,

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Speaker 3: it's a double cleans in the shower to remove my

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Speaker 3: makeup with MC beauty Everyday Ultra Clean cleansing balm, and

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Speaker 3: then a second cleanse with set of feel Gentle skin cleanser.

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Speaker 3: Then a dollop of Veno Daily moisturizing fragrance free body

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Speaker 3: lotion on my face. Oh my gosh, this could be

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Speaker 3: my girlfriend. I think I'm a combo girlie, but I

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Speaker 3: honestly have no idea. If I'm wearing makeup, my nose

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Speaker 3: and foreheads sometimes get oily. I also wear glasses twenty

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Speaker 3: can get really dry, and if I'm not wearing makeup,

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Speaker 3: my entire face gets oily. Can you point me in

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Speaker 3: the right direction on where to start? Obviously, something low

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Speaker 3: budget friendly would be amazing. People do say I have

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Speaker 3: great skins, so that is what I like to keep.

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Speaker 3: Please help a girly and please continue to be amazing people.

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Speaker 2: Well, Emma, we can continue to be amazing people.

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Speaker 3: I was nodding along like she's doing fine until I

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Speaker 1: Although I mean, if it's working for you, Emma, great.

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Speaker 2: It's March and you've gotten to October, and I don't

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Speaker 2: A couple of things I would changed. But people are

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Speaker 2: saying you've got great skin. I'm assuming you're in agreeance

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Speaker 1: Just wants to make sure she's got the best skin totally.

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Speaker 2: You know, weddings are expensive, so you probably don't have

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Speaker 2: good excuse to steal a few little treats for yourself

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Speaker 2: if you combo or oily. I reckon with your skin

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Speaker 2: if you're wearing sunscreen. I mean, firstly, sunscreen on your face.

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Speaker 1: She's wearing body lotion on a face.

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Speaker 2: She might not be true, and a lot of people

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Speaker 2: and they will. Okay, so we're adding sunscreen, that's fine.

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Speaker 2: What I reckon you should do just for some plumpness

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Speaker 2: My recommendations are a delicious hydrating serrum that's not going

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Speaker 2: Because yeah, like I'm combo oily, I feel like you

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Speaker 3: This feels like applying jelly to your face. I always

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Speaker 2: Price is thirty eight dollars the time of recording. I'm

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Speaker 2: looking on Chemists Warehouse and it is eighteen ninety nine,

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Speaker 2: Another great one to try would be, you know, if

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Speaker 2: oil Control moisturizing gel cream also delicious twenty six bucks

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Speaker 3: I agree with everything Lee said. It is very hard,

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Speaker 3: You're on your Adore beautys or I've been doing a

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Speaker 3: I was just fine chemists warehouses always travel products.

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Speaker 3: Want you to add sunscreen please, even like, forget the wedding,

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I'm really excited for you, and I

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Speaker 3: just yeah, it does kind of show sometimes less is more, exactly,

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Speaker 2: So anonymous asked, and I am not sure if there's

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Speaker 3: It's just like, this product is outstanding and it's one

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Speaker 3: We take it very seriously. We're not going to no

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Speaker 3: recommend rubbish products. But you know, you can't be everything

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Speaker 3: to everyone. So five dollars is a bargain to someone.

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Speaker 3: Fifty dollars is a bargain to someone. And that's why

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Speaker 3: We're kind of catering to all budgets. And I think,

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Speaker 3: might be, you know, a makeup girly, like Kelly's more

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Speaker 3: of a makeup girly than me. I spend two hundred

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Speaker 3: And so some people also might want to know the

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Speaker 1: And if you want to draw on a mustache.

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Speaker 3: She does belong in France, Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: On that note, thanks so much for listening.

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Speaker 3: If you have a question for us to answer, please

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Speaker 2: Asab Your Beauty is produced by Cassie Merritt, with audio

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Speaker 2: production by Tig and Saddler and video production by Marlena Cacciotti.

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Speaker 1: And we will see you on Friday. Bye,