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Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges

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Speaker 1: the traditional owners of the land and waters that this

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Speaker 1: podcast is recorded on. I'm Clere Stevens and welcome to

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Speaker 1: part two of my conversation with Olympic gold medalist Arianne Tipmus.

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Speaker 1: In part one, Arianne talked about how people suddenly wanted

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Speaker 1: to be friends with her after her first Olympic Games,

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Speaker 1: her upbringing in Tasmania, the sacrifices her family made to

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Speaker 1: move to Brisbane for better swimming opportunities, and the pressure

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Speaker 1: that placed on her, and the health issue that really

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Speaker 1: clarified what it is that she wants out of life.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't heard part one yet, it's best to

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Speaker 1: start there. There's a link in the show notes. Here's

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Speaker 1: part two. You're in such an interesting position in terms

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Speaker 1: of your sport, in that you train for years, years

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Speaker 1: and years and years for a moment that is a

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Speaker 1: few minutes when you are on that starting block and

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Speaker 1: you're about to jump in the pool. Even when you

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Speaker 1: think about it for the Paris Olympics and you think, okay,

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Speaker 1: I've worked for four years for this moment, how on

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Speaker 1: earth do you keep yourself together and focus just on

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Speaker 1: that and not completely mess with your mind in terms

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Speaker 1: of pressure.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you think about all of that, it can

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Speaker 2: become all consuming. And I think that's what makes people

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Speaker 2: come undone, because they truly think about where they are

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Speaker 2: and what they're doing. But for me, whenever I stand

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Speaker 2: behind the blocks at a major meet or at the

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Speaker 2: last Olympics, I remember I woke up the day of

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Speaker 2: the four hundred, it was the first ay of the Olympics,

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Speaker 2: and I had a text on my phone from my

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Speaker 2: coach Dean, and all it said was just be that

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Speaker 2: little girl. You have eight las, you know how to

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Speaker 2: do it. This should be easy for you compared to

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Speaker 2: anyone else. And all you have to do is swim,

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Speaker 2: and you've been doing it your whole life. And when

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Speaker 2: you really think about what you're doing, it's the same

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Speaker 2: whether I'd be racing at a local meet here in

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Speaker 2: going to give it my best shot either way. And

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Speaker 2: I think you really have to put it into perspective

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Speaker 2: or there's more to life before four hundred. At the

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Speaker 2: last Olympic Steen, and I said, we wanted to for

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Speaker 2: the race, not even talk about the race, to take

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Speaker 2: the pressure off. And he just said to me, go

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Speaker 2: out there, have fun, Go get them, Tiger, and that

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Speaker 2: was it. And I think that's the best way to

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Speaker 3: The world to do this.

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Speaker 2: Imagine if you were behind the block of the Olympic Games,

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Speaker 2: you should be way more nervous.

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Speaker 3: Than I would be.

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Speaker 2: So I think you just have to really forget about

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Speaker 1: Something I find fascinating about you is that you seem

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Speaker 1: to have this incredibly healthy concept of competition and you

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Speaker 1: haven't seen a mindset coach. That seems to be something

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Speaker 1: that's just innate to you. And I've been reading a

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Speaker 1: to professional help, we interrupt our own natural instincts. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and so it seems like you, just from the get

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like you need somebody to talk you

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Speaker 2: We had discussions about whether I would see a sports

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Speaker 3: Success without it, and I know that it works.

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Speaker 2: And I sometimes get, like you said, maybe you want

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Speaker 3: And if anything, I think Dean.

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Speaker 2: Is probably I wouldn't say mindset coach, but I definitely

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Speaker 2: I guess my mind has always been something that I

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Speaker 1: At the moment, you are in an insane training schedule.

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Speaker 1: Can you give me an idea of what your day

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I have a training week.

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Speaker 3: It goes to about lunchtime. So that's my week.

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Speaker 2: I think, all consuming with physio, massage, recovery, you know,

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Speaker 2: I spark and our type of thing. My week's probably

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Speaker 3: So it does a full time job. But I guess

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Speaker 3: it's what you have to do to be the best.

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Speaker 2: Hmmm, Well, actually there's these new things that have come

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Speaker 3: But I actually don't get too bored.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes if we've got a recovery, like this morning, I

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Speaker 3: So like, you get through it easy, but like.

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Speaker 2: You said, when you're in a really important session, your

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Speaker 1: After the break, Arianne shares exactly what it looks like

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Speaker 1: and she opens up about the biggest insecurities she has

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Speaker 1: outside of swimming. You're obviously in such a routine when

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Speaker 1: and you've got everything that you need at your disposal,

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Speaker 1: about to have one of the most significant moments of

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Speaker 2: I feel like we're really lucky as a team. We've

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Speaker 2: for the things you need. And as an athlete, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Like it's just the most chaotic thing you'll ever see

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Speaker 1: When you think about your life so far, and I

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Speaker 1: know you're still so young and there's so much ahead

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Speaker 1: of you, is there anything that you really regret or

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Speaker 2: I think the one thing when I was younger, I

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Speaker 1: Plus is she truly happy? Right now? Stay with us?

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Speaker 1: Have you thought a lot about and this episode will

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Speaker 3: Yourself, Well, if that did happen, which.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie like I would be utterly disappointed,

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Speaker 2: Prepared well, but I think I'm content enough with myself

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Speaker 1: How about the moments where you think about winning everything?

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Speaker 2: I think the word that comes to mind is pride.

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Speaker 1: So, Arianne Titmus, you are currently one of Australia's top athletes.

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Speaker 1: You are one of the best swimmers we've ever seen

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Speaker 2: I'm very happy in my life and if swimming was

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Speaker 2: still be happy. I have a lot going for me

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Speaker 1: Really, soon we are all going to be glued to

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Speaker 1: The pressure of that moment will be intense. She'll have

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Speaker 1: because ultimately, it's not the medals or the awards that

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Speaker 1: they don't bring true happiness. Arianne is far more than

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Speaker 1: a swimmer, and perhaps that's worth remembering when we anxiously

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Speaker 1: watch her on the Starting Blocks. That's our last episode

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Speaker 1: conversations this season, and I would love to hear from

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Speaker 1: continue making this a safe space to have vulnerable conversations

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Speaker 4: Let us have our bands out like we can't just

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Speaker 4: have real chatselor top. It's fucking exhausting. You get compassion

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Speaker 4: that's a good reminder for auokdas know that you might

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Speaker 1: that episode while we make our next season. The feed

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Speaker 1: any episode that you haven't listened to, re listened to

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Speaker 1: the ones that meant something to you. We're always here.

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Speaker 1: You can always find me on Canceled, a comedy podcast

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Speaker 1: I do with my sister Jesse, or The Baby Bubble,

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Speaker 1: which is definitely not a parenting advice podcast. This episode

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Speaker 1: was produced by Tarlie Blackman, with audio production by Scott Stronik.