WEBVTT - INBOX: Can I Date My Co-Worker?

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to a MoMA Mea podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, and welcome back to biz Inbox. I'm m Ven.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a podcaster and writer here at Mama Mia. And look,

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<v Speaker 2>I do have a toxic work behavior that I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I need to confess right now, and it's that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm constantly stealing pens from other people's desks. I am

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<v Speaker 2>making eyes with our producer Taylor because I stole this pen.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm holling right now from her desk and I'm here

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<v Speaker 2>joined with.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm so pursed. Wait are you stealing them from

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<v Speaker 1>other people's desk?

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<v Speaker 3>Correct personal pens?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? Do you give them back at the end.

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<v Speaker 2>It depends on my day. Like sometimes I forget and

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're all my pens. So if anyone who

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<v Speaker 2>works on me just wants to do like a little

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<v Speaker 2>go past my desk, you can pick up your.

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<v Speaker 1>Land on the way bird for bias.

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<v Speaker 3>They're just there. I need one. I need one.

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<v Speaker 2>So biz Inbox, every week, we're going to be answering

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<v Speaker 2>do have.

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<v Speaker 1>Today we're dealing with matters of the heart, work experience,

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<v Speaker 1>and also just how sacred your lunch hour actually is.

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<v Speaker 2>I am very excited for that question, in particular because

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<v Speaker 2>I have very strong feelings about my lunch hour.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 2>So our very first question of the week is our

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<v Speaker 2>very first voicemail as well. It's from an anonymous submission.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what they said.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, I've just got a question for the pod.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you guys think about dating coworkers?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it weird? No wonder? This was anonymous. Yeah, totally.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you dated a co worker?

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<v Speaker 3>I have not.

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<v Speaker 2>I would if there was options to date coworkers working

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<v Speaker 2>on MIA. There's a very small pool of single men

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<v Speaker 2>that come through here.

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<v Speaker 1>So true. I think going into the office when you

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<v Speaker 1>have a crush on someone just makes it so much

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<v Speaker 1>more fun to go into work.

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<v Speaker 2>I get excited to go to work, but I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like it would also be super risky.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it is.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually wanted to look up how many people have

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<v Speaker 1>data a coworker?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what the number is surely like forty percent.

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<v Speaker 1>It's half. Half of people who responded said they've actually

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<v Speaker 1>dated a co worker, which was way higher than I expected.

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<v Speaker 3>Most of them successful.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I didn't work, I'd chat GPTA, it's me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, two seconds. But at bigger companies there are

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<v Speaker 1>actually guidelines around this, and I think especially in like

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<v Speaker 1>a post me too world, probably more companies have guidelines

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<v Speaker 1>and they're probably a little bit more clear. So at Google,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, if you were having a relationship with someone,

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<v Speaker 1>you actually had to declare it if they were in

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<v Speaker 1>your team or if you were in the same reporting line.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you were in the same reporting line, that

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't actually allowed to be a thing, so you either

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<v Speaker 1>had to change teams or you couldn't have the relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>But there was actually like a formal process for it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>What if you didn't know what your relationship even, what

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<v Speaker 2>if you're like in a situationship That would actually be

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<v Speaker 2>good for people who are scared of situationship of dating.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to be like, well, we have to confirm

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<v Speaker 2>it to the workplace, so true, maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>You should just be in as a process around this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that kind of leads to some of my

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<v Speaker 1>points around timing. But the other thing I think was

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<v Speaker 1>really funny. When I was working in New York, there

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<v Speaker 1>was a creative agency who actually had a benefits policy

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<v Speaker 1>where if two co workers got engaged, they would pay

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<v Speaker 1>for the wedding.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, how good? Is that insane?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's because they were based in like Colorado, and

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<v Speaker 1>they really wanted to attract good talents. So like, if

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<v Speaker 1>you move here and you hook up with, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>someone else who's in the team, then we'll pay for

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<v Speaker 1>the wedding. I thought that was pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, a Christmas parties must be wild.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally, but you know what she would actually do? Like

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<v Speaker 1>is it okay? Is weird? I think one, just make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you do understand your company policy around it. But

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<v Speaker 1>to your point around timing and sort of like the

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<v Speaker 1>flow of communication, so it can obviously be so much fun,

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<v Speaker 1>but then you know at some point people are going

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<v Speaker 1>to find out or you're going to need to tell

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<v Speaker 1>people maybe, And like do you want to be in

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<v Speaker 1>control of that flow of information or do you want

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<v Speaker 1>it to happen for you? Yeah, what do you think?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's so true.

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<v Speaker 2>I also feel like there's no way it wouldn't affect

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<v Speaker 2>my work, especially if it doesn't work out and then

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<v Speaker 2>you're just seeing this person every day who like you've

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<v Speaker 2>both broken each other's heart maybe, and I think that

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<v Speaker 2>would just be really hard, especially if you love your job.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think you have to definitely think about your

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<v Speaker 1>reputation because it's like it's a funny thing, right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like your personal life. It really shouldn't be anything to

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<v Speaker 1>do with work, but it kind of is because it

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<v Speaker 1>can change the way that you're actually showing up at work.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think maybe even possibly for women, it can

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<v Speaker 1>affect your reputation more than men. I'm not sure. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's different now in a post me to world. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's very hard for men. But once you know that

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<v Speaker 1>it is serious, maybe have a think about letting a

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<v Speaker 1>manager know and just showing up and saying like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't actually going to affect me and my role.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm committed whatever it is, So maybe think about that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think it's tricky if you're just dating

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<v Speaker 1>someone or hooking up, like.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, either a relationship or nothing, no situationships,

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<v Speaker 2>no casual sex. Sorry, I know I sound like a nanna,

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<v Speaker 2>but don't do it, it's not worth it. So this

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<v Speaker 2>next question comes in from Sarah. Here's what she says.

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<v Speaker 2>I just graduated from UNI and I'm looking for an

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<v Speaker 2>entry level job, but all the jobs want someone with

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<v Speaker 2>experience and I don't have any because I just left UNI.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so confused.

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<v Speaker 1>What do I do?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Sarah. I feel like, especially with young people coming

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<v Speaker 2>into the workforce, it feels like every single generation gets

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<v Speaker 2>hit with the same obstacle. And I got hit with

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<v Speaker 2>it as well when I joined the workforce full time

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<v Speaker 2>straight after UNI. Because every job I went to apply for,

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<v Speaker 2>they just had these requirements that I was nowhere close

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<v Speaker 2>to meeting. Like it was always three to six years

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<v Speaker 2>of experience, or you had to have this certain degree,

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<v Speaker 2>or you had to do this. No one told me

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<v Speaker 2>that I could still apply even though I didn't meet

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<v Speaker 2>all the requirements. And it was only when so I

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<v Speaker 2>was actually scattered for this job I started as a

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<v Speaker 2>social media as system PHR actually messaged me on LinkedIn

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<v Speaker 2>and was like, Hey, we'd love for you to.

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<v Speaker 3>Apply to this role.

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<v Speaker 2>And I looked at the job description and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't meet any of these like any of these

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<v Speaker 2>at all. And I told my mom and my mom

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<v Speaker 2>was like, yeah, you probably won't get it, but you've

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<v Speaker 2>never interviewed before, so why didn't you just give it

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<v Speaker 2>a go?

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, okay, and then I got the job.

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<v Speaker 2>No way, And I just hate that so many especially,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it's mainly young women who if they

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<v Speaker 2>don't meet like one hundred percent of the requirement, they

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<v Speaker 2>just won't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I totally agreat I think there's this thing where you

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<v Speaker 1>think you don't have the skills and experience but you

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<v Speaker 1>actually do. So don't think about what you don't have,

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<v Speaker 1>think about what you do have, but it's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>about how you package it up and showcase it interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>So I remember this so deeply as well. So I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up in regional New South Wales. My dad was

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<v Speaker 1>a trainee, my mom is a preschool teacher, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one from the world of business. I go to Sydney

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<v Speaker 1>Union get a marketing degree. I feel like I have

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<v Speaker 1>no practical skills on knowledge. I went for one internship,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get it. I was like, that was embarrassing. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>never trying that again. And I just remember feeling so lost.

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<v Speaker 1>I was working at a bar, met this customer and

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<v Speaker 1>she worked in marketing. I remember leaving my side of

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<v Speaker 1>the bar and just clutching her hands and being like,

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<v Speaker 1>help me. Can I take you for coffe? Can I

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<v Speaker 1>learn about your job? Like I just don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>to do. There's two things that I want to say

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<v Speaker 1>if I was sort of like starting out again twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five, I'm in this death loop of no experience

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<v Speaker 1>but can't get the job, need the job to get

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<v Speaker 1>the experience. Here's what I'm going to say. One, go

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<v Speaker 1>and meet people who are doing the job that you

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<v Speaker 1>want to do and just ask them, you know, what's

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<v Speaker 1>your job, Like, what are the skills that you need

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<v Speaker 1>for someone who doesn't have experience in that actual job?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what are some of the transferable skills? And what

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to find comes up all the time is

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<v Speaker 1>things like project management, writing, events design, like knowing how

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<v Speaker 1>to use cam or whatever. There's all these kind of

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<v Speaker 1>skills that you actually do have. You know, have you

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<v Speaker 1>worked in retail, have you trained other people up before

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<v Speaker 1>in a team? Do you have salese skills? So there's

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<v Speaker 1>probably skills that you do have, And then it's just

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<v Speaker 1>about how you actually showcase those. So what I think

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<v Speaker 1>people need this is not about just having like a

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<v Speaker 1>LinkedIn profile kind of like build something or make something,

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<v Speaker 1>create something that can live a little bit online to

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<v Speaker 1>show that you've got these skills and you can do

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<v Speaker 1>that outside your job. So I'll give you some examples.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's like you build your own substack and you

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<v Speaker 1>have like your substack newsletter. Maybe it's like you start

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<v Speaker 1>a little online community and you do meetups and then

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<v Speaker 1>you're like having some little place online where you show

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<v Speaker 1>what you're doing there. Like maybe it is that you're

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<v Speaker 1>involved in clubs and societies at UNI and we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>event organization whatever. You need to be doing some stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that shows you know, you can manage your project, you

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<v Speaker 1>can like do things, and there needs to be a

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<v Speaker 1>place online where people can go and see that. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think just like packaging up and showcasing some of

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff, you can do that regardless of whether you

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<v Speaker 1>have a job or not, and then meeting people point

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<v Speaker 1>them to that and show them that, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's the better way to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's so smart.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, I think what's really important is figuring out the

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<v Speaker 2>values of the company that you kind of want to

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<v Speaker 2>work for and what they appreciate. Like here at MAMEI

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<v Speaker 2>we really appreciate creativity. And I remember one of my

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<v Speaker 2>colleagues and this when I was working in the social

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<v Speaker 2>media team, Mattie King. She got her job because she

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<v Speaker 2>created an Instagram page saying why Mummy should hire me?

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<v Speaker 3>And she did like.

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<v Speaker 2>All these posts about her whole life story and we

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<v Speaker 2>were like immediately yes, like it was just so Mumma Mia,

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<v Speaker 2>and was so perfect and she was brilliant and she

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<v Speaker 2>nailed the interview.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so good.

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<v Speaker 1>I absolutely love that, like massive inspiration. I actually got

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<v Speaker 1>my job at Google because I had a music blog.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you think that's nothing to do with tech marketing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but it actually is because the transferable skill there is

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<v Speaker 1>creativity and like being able to create a brand. So

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<v Speaker 1>I had this little music blog. It was called the

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<v Speaker 1>Perfect Five. It was just five songs every week. It

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<v Speaker 1>was really cute. This is like back in the day.

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<v Speaker 3>I find it.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to post it on the business some.

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<v Speaker 1>Screenshots of it and we will post it on the

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<v Speaker 1>on the grund for shore. But I remember like showing

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<v Speaker 1>this in the interview and talking about how I was

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<v Speaker 1>really resourceful because they were like, did you pay someone

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<v Speaker 1>to build this? And this is back in the day

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<v Speaker 1>when it was pretty hard. It's like, no, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>pay someone. I like traded some of my friends, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I did some stuff with them. They did this, so

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, oh, you're resourceful. You know you got this

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<v Speaker 1>done for free. You've got influence because you're getting friends

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<v Speaker 1>to do stuff, and you've got creativity. So all these

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<v Speaker 1>transferable skills that I was showcasing just because I had

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<v Speaker 1>a music blog and it wasn't even that successful. It's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I had people following me, but it was just like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you've got something online where you're showing people

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<v Speaker 1>like I can do something.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so good, So just like get creative with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Just put yourself out there and yes, yeah, don't rely

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<v Speaker 2>on your LinkedIn profile. Actually like message people on LinkedIn,

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<v Speaker 2>like follow the people that you want to work with

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<v Speaker 2>and work for and message them and just be like

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<v Speaker 2>can I take you that for a coffee?

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent? Can I give you one more thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I would do? Yeah, I was doing this now.

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<v Speaker 1>I would find people who have the jobs I want.

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<v Speaker 1>I would offer to take myth coffee or even just

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<v Speaker 1>like a fifteen minute chat on the phone if you've

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<v Speaker 1>got a vibe with them. I would actually offer, can

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<v Speaker 1>I shadow you when you go to industry events and

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<v Speaker 1>like write up some insights of what you learned at

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<v Speaker 1>that event and post for LinkedIn for you or a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people struggle with having nicely designed slides, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so I would offer, Hey, I'm pretty candy on camber.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna design some slide templates for you to use

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<v Speaker 1>for your presentations, and I would like sort of do

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff for people to show you've got skills and

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<v Speaker 1>build a relationship like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so smart. Okay, So we're coming up to a break.

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<v Speaker 2>So after the break, we're gonna be talking about a

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<v Speaker 2>very serious question that involves my all.

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<v Speaker 3>Important lunch break.

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<v Speaker 2>So this next question comes from Bridget and she actually

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<v Speaker 2>sent this through our Instagram dms. You can follow us

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<v Speaker 2>on Instagram at Bisbye Mama Mia. We do heaps of

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<v Speaker 2>posts on there, and please slide into our DMS with

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<v Speaker 2>any questions you have. She wanted to know what are

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<v Speaker 2>some reasonable things she could do during her lunch break,

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<v Speaker 2>Like she wanted to know is okay to take her

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<v Speaker 2>our lunch break to go to the gym or to

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<v Speaker 2>go shopping.

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<v Speaker 3>So what do you.

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<v Speaker 1>Reckon, Well, bridget on my lunch break. I ed gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get botox.

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<v Speaker 3>That's smart.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the short answer is it's your life lunch break,

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<v Speaker 1>so do whatever the hell you want with it. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some caveats to this. So yeah, like at bigger companies,

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<v Speaker 1>they might actually have guidance around this. You might say

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<v Speaker 1>something in your contract about how long your lunch trek is,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know it's going to be different with different

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<v Speaker 1>roles if you're doing shift work or whatever. But let's

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<v Speaker 1>just say like a normal office job, right, it's really

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<v Speaker 1>a question around team norms and company norms and how

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<v Speaker 1>much you have your shit together. If you are doing

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<v Speaker 1>your job and you've got your shit together, you should

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<v Speaker 1>be able to do whatever you want with that time.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to rebrand the lunch hour, the lunch lunchtime, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to rebrand this.

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<v Speaker 3>I love a rebrand.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's not your lunch time, it is your reset time.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think it's a really important part actually

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<v Speaker 1>of the day. We can't just work for eight hours

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<v Speaker 1>straight like you actually need that time in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the day to properly reset. So it's your reset

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<v Speaker 1>time and you should be protecting it, and people are

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<v Speaker 1>going to try and steal that time from you, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think you should protect it. Just a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>things proactively communicate around like that is your time. So

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<v Speaker 1>I would always make sure and I would tell my

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<v Speaker 1>team just like block your lunch hour out in your calendar,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would even set mine. There's a thing you

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<v Speaker 1>can do in Gmail where you set it to out

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<v Speaker 1>of office, so it would just order a decline if

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<v Speaker 1>people try to book meetings over it.

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<v Speaker 2>But let me write that down auto the client.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the culture we had to Google. I maybe

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<v Speaker 1>don't try that if that's not you.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't going to call that producers out, but we

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<v Speaker 2>are recording this at twelve forty five pm.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is I think just around kind of proactively communicating,

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're a manager, I think you should be

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<v Speaker 1>having conversations with your team around like what is normal

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<v Speaker 1>to do on your lunch break? Right. I remember there

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<v Speaker 1>was a manager at Google who actually used to just

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<v Speaker 1>put gon surfing kind of thing and block that time

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<v Speaker 1>if it wasn't even in this lunch break. But the

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<v Speaker 1>reason that worked is if you proactively communicate like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>out of the office at this time, he's obviously getting

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<v Speaker 1>his work done, he's on top of your shit. You

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<v Speaker 1>sort of should be in control of your own time.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to think about your reputation and how you're

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<v Speaker 1>showing up and not to be taking the piss. So

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<v Speaker 1>one thing to watch out for is I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people will say, can I eat my lunch

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<v Speaker 1>at my desk during my lunch hour and then take

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<v Speaker 1>off like two to three to go and do yoga,

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<v Speaker 1>And like, technically you should. If you have a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with your manager and they're cool with that and like

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<v Speaker 1>there's no other important meetings, then technically that's okay. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think there can be a bit of creep sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>where it's like you kind of aren't really doing your

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<v Speaker 1>work during that lunchtime because you're eating, and then you're

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<v Speaker 1>just taking off this time as well, and it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of interior afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I think it's dependent on the person. Are

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<v Speaker 2>you able to question do you have to be transparent

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<v Speaker 2>of what you're doing in your lunch break? Like what

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<v Speaker 2>if I want to go see my therapist.

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<v Speaker 1>Do not need to tell anyone. I mean, it is

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<v Speaker 1>your lunch again. It comes around to companies and teams

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<v Speaker 1>should be talking about this and check you contract. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not an HI expert, so check your contract. But you

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have to tell anyone what you're doing in your

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<v Speaker 1>lunch hour, like that is your time. The one thing

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<v Speaker 1>that you should be doing is letting people know that

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<v Speaker 1>you're not contactable so like because sometimes people need stuff

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<v Speaker 1>right or like it's really hard to book time with

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<v Speaker 1>people into book meetings if you're not having that in

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<v Speaker 1>your calendar and someone does see that as a free

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<v Speaker 1>slot and then they want to book something there and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, actually, I was planning to go do like

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<v Speaker 1>a hairdresser appointment. It can just be really hard for people,

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<v Speaker 1>so block it out in advance. I would always have

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<v Speaker 1>that hour blocked out in my calendar and yeah, just

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<v Speaker 1>communicate around. If someone tries to booker meeting and that

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<v Speaker 1>you can just say like, hey, this is my reset time.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this meeting important? Can we do it another time or.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, lunchtime's out reset times again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>So much for helping us clear our little biz in box.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have a work question, please send it our way.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll find exactly how to do that in our show notes,

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<v Speaker 1>If you missed it earlier. This week, Michelle and I

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<v Speaker 1>taught you how to be more productive while doing less

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<v Speaker 1>at work.

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<v Speaker 1>Head back into the feed to hear our two ultimate

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