WEBVTT - The Embarrassing Reason I'm In Therapy Now

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to I'm am a MIA podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello and welcome to Unleashed, the podcast for gen X

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<v Speaker 2>women who need a laugh. If you remember waiting for

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<v Speaker 2>a specific day of the week to watch the next

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<v Speaker 2>episode of the show that you loved, then you found

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<v Speaker 2>your people. Okay, who is on the sofa this week?

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<v Speaker 3>Grace bam bam lamb fashion stylers, Welcome to Unleashed.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi. I'm Sally Hitworth and i am an author.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm Jinny Mersberg, I'm a GP and I'm Kath Mahony,

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<v Speaker 5>a comedian.

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<v Speaker 2>So wherever you're listening, unclench you your clench your pelvic

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<v Speaker 2>floor and get ready to unleash who. Okay, who is busting?

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<v Speaker 2>Busting busting to start us off?

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<v Speaker 4>That's me? Okay, I have news.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, Sally Hapwors. What have you got?

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<v Speaker 4>I presented to manage and our idea to have a

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<v Speaker 4>spring fling? Well, just calm down, yes, okay, if you

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<v Speaker 4>were just catching up on this at home, unleashes Cath,

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<v Speaker 4>our darling. Cath has never been to a form and

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<v Speaker 4>we think that's unacceptable. Yes, and so we've decided to

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<v Speaker 4>throw her one called the spring Fling. Now we decided

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<v Speaker 4>that without checking with management, and so we found ourselves

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<v Speaker 4>in a position. Well, I found myself in a position

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<v Speaker 4>that I was going to have to do that.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>I have never worked in an office, that's true. I've

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<v Speaker 4>never presented anything at a boardroom before. Okay, but I

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<v Speaker 4>have been on the view and I've told a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of stories to people. So I thought, you know what,

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<v Speaker 4>I've got this nailed. So I made my PowerPoint. Oh

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<v Speaker 4>it was two slides.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>More importantly, I decided to go in costume, Yes, addressed

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<v Speaker 4>as Madonna. Yes, in desperate seeking Susan. I did a

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<v Speaker 4>power pot. I walked in. I had my two cheerleaders

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<v Speaker 4>here beside me, Calf and Grace, and you guys stood

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<v Speaker 4>outside when I went into the lions Den. And here

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<v Speaker 4>is how it went. I am about to walk in

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<v Speaker 4>to a very intense office space, a boardroom full of

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<v Speaker 4>swinging chairs. Okay, I am an author. I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>much about that. So I've worn my best outfit, my

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<v Speaker 4>ra ra skirt, very big eighties hair, lots of pearls,

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<v Speaker 4>and I have prepared by listening to Tony Robbins and

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<v Speaker 4>mel Robins and you know all of the Robins. So

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<v Speaker 4>I am going to go in there and I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to get a spring fling for my girl CAF. Thank

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<v Speaker 4>you everyone for meeting with me today. I've got something

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<v Speaker 4>very serious to discuss with you about one about unleaded posts.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll cut right to the chase.

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<v Speaker 1>Cat has never been to a formal.

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<v Speaker 5>What's that got to do with that?

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<v Speaker 4>We should throw calf a formal?

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<v Speaker 1>So we don't have time or budget to.

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<v Speaker 4>Be throwing a fIF you're a woman. Just think of

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<v Speaker 4>the frocks, think of the decorations, the sequence, Think of

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<v Speaker 4>the fun. So don't just throw frogs in to get

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<v Speaker 4>mea on board, think spring slem.

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<v Speaker 3>Just don't have the budget for this, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Hack has never had a formal. Let's give us something

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<v Speaker 1>fun to do.

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<v Speaker 3>She's saying she's out for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go co.

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<v Speaker 6>So proud.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So we haven't got a firm yes at this point?

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<v Speaker 1>Why not?

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<v Speaker 4>The response I found was not underwhelmed exactly. It wasn't overwhelmed.

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<v Speaker 4>I probably put it in the whelmed kind of category.

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<v Speaker 4>I may have got maya across the line when I

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<v Speaker 4>mentioned sequence. Yes, nothing yet has been finalized. So look

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not giving up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's not a no, right if it's not a no, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>it's about yes.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've waited for fifty one years for a formal

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<v Speaker 2>I can wait another week.

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<v Speaker 4>I have got my hyper focus on this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>I can already see the streamers, I can see the balloons,

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<v Speaker 4>I can see the taffeta. This is the only thing

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<v Speaker 4>I care about.

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<v Speaker 3>For kind, I think we need to put some pressure

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<v Speaker 3>on them.

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<v Speaker 4>I think so too, So I would say any Unleashes

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<v Speaker 4>at home who are listening and who loved the idea

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<v Speaker 4>of coming to Kat's spring fling.

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<v Speaker 7>In other words, everyone, everyone follow us on our Instagram

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<v Speaker 7>account at Unleashed Show, and we'll be putting updates in

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<v Speaker 7>there about what is happening.

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<v Speaker 4>Campaign write in the comments tell us that you to go.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to make this.

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<v Speaker 1>Happen hashtag spring Fling.

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<v Speaker 3>Is a go.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So that's not the only excitement that's been happening

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<v Speaker 4>at the moment, Because Ginny, you've had a pretty big

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<v Speaker 4>month as well.

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<v Speaker 5>I have.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you want to tell us about why.

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<v Speaker 5>I actually released a book, the Women's Longevity Handbook, which

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<v Speaker 5>is almost tailor made for the Unleashes, because who is

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<v Speaker 5>not after a bit of longevity?

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<v Speaker 1>Whether you're woo wooing with your.

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<v Speaker 5>Stack like Sally, or you're manifesting a lot of prayers

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<v Speaker 5>or sort of manifesting a whole lot of good vibes

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<v Speaker 5>like Cath or you're like really getting your functui on

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<v Speaker 5>like Grace. There is something for everybody in there. Well

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<v Speaker 5>just hinting here, there's none of that stuff. It's actually

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<v Speaker 5>all just it's all just science. Yeah, it's actually yes,

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<v Speaker 5>there's no manifesting in here, but hopefully there is something

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<v Speaker 5>for everyone. And I love you guys. You guys have

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<v Speaker 5>been so like my sisters. You are so supportive as always.

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<v Speaker 5>This group is so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>And thank you to all the unlaciers as well, because they've.

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<v Speaker 5>Been sending me so many dms. They've been really really supportive,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm just sending love back out to the Umlasia crew.

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<v Speaker 2>So for people that haven't seen the book out they yet,

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<v Speaker 2>what's in there? What are the juicy bets that we

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<v Speaker 2>need to listen to?

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<v Speaker 5>It is literally everything that midlife women, because this period.

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<v Speaker 1>Is pivotal for the rest of your life.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's about sleep, brain health, heart health, muscle health.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you need to give up your work and actually

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<v Speaker 5>eat your body weight and cottage cheese.

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<v Speaker 1>All the answers are inside here.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you need to worry about rheumatoid arthriters, autoimmune disease,

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<v Speaker 5>everything in your vagina, skin, hair, teasse, everything, It is

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<v Speaker 5>all in there, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Dr Genie in the Batta, Which chapter was the hardest

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<v Speaker 3>to write?

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<v Speaker 5>Actually, weirdly enough, it was the menopause chapter, because I

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<v Speaker 5>feel like I could and wait, I have written a

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<v Speaker 5>whole book about menopause, and trying to condense this thing

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<v Speaker 5>into a small number of words like I was not.

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<v Speaker 1>Allowed to give you a I had to actually really.

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<v Speaker 5>Condense this book, and the hardest thing was cutting it back,

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<v Speaker 5>but actually particularly menopause, like, getting this into a small

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<v Speaker 5>chapter was really really tough.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, Bet Ginney, this book is about longevity, and we

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<v Speaker 4>are all obsessed with living longer. What's the magic bullet?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay?

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<v Speaker 5>I was really fascinated by this because I spent enough

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<v Speaker 5>time on TikTok and Instagram that I was convinced that

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<v Speaker 5>there was some stack out there that I should definitely

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<v Speaker 5>be on. Same it turns out that sadly, all of

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<v Speaker 5>the Woo Woo staff seems to be just complete garbage,

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<v Speaker 5>and the more research. We do, like, it's really good

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<v Speaker 5>if you do a study of seventeen people for three hours,

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<v Speaker 5>but beyond that, it actually just.

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<v Speaker 1>Falls off a cliff. And what actually really works and

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<v Speaker 1>the evidence just gets stronger is.

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<v Speaker 5>Your diet, your exercise, all of your good clean living.

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<v Speaker 5>We not that clein, but like good living. And I

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<v Speaker 5>just want to just share, like what I've learned on

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<v Speaker 5>this journey.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a really really interesing journey.

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<v Speaker 5>I speket to heaps and heaps of experts that blew

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<v Speaker 5>my mind with stuff like how can you tell whether

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<v Speaker 5>your saw knee should make you stop running or whether

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<v Speaker 5>you should go?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, this is a good sign my running is actually

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<v Speaker 1>working for me.

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<v Speaker 5>Whether losing weight will actually help hand us writers like

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<v Speaker 5>things like that that were just so fascinating to learn.

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<v Speaker 5>I have shared every tip from every expert in this book.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow, we're going to start running cell.

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<v Speaker 4>So ladies.

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<v Speaker 3>Recently I saw on Instagram a later from Clad school.

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<v Speaker 3>She lives in a building complex. One of her neighbors

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<v Speaker 3>is always noisy every single freaking night, so no one

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<v Speaker 3>can get any sleep. You know what she did? What

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<v Speaker 3>She got a megaphone just before she went to bed

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<v Speaker 3>and blast out Flat eight B. Can you please turn

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<v Speaker 3>your music down? Everyone wants to go to bed, including me.

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<v Speaker 3>So she basically shamed this person and I've done that,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way.

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<v Speaker 6>What Oh yes.

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<v Speaker 3>So one of the places that I lived in in

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<v Speaker 3>Holland Park in London, which is very close to where

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<v Speaker 3>David Beckham is ill.

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<v Speaker 4>It's fancy, it's very right, and you're saying people are

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<v Speaker 4>decent there because it's a nice area. Oh no, not

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<v Speaker 4>my neighbor.

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<v Speaker 3>So my building was very small, short building, like not

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<v Speaker 3>a tall building. It's like three floors. I was in

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<v Speaker 3>the middle. New neighbor came in the top floor, this

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<v Speaker 3>young couple. I mean I was in my twenties. I

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<v Speaker 3>was also young. Every night the minute she moved in,

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<v Speaker 3>every night rave news. I mean, don't get me wrong,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a raver too, but not every night three am,

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<v Speaker 3>four am, and then she will have sex really loud.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it was just like so annoying for about a year.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know what I did every night when she's

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<v Speaker 3>that blasting her music, I will get my karaoke mic

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<v Speaker 3>out and I will turn my speaker up upwards to

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<v Speaker 3>the ceiling and I will blast my Chinese music and

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<v Speaker 3>saying that at the same time, have you ever heard

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<v Speaker 3>of Chinese opera? It's really loud and noisy and it's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, so did you ever before you retaliated, which I

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<v Speaker 4>completely respected, by the way, and wouldn't expect anything less,

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<v Speaker 4>But before you took to the Chinese opera, did you

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<v Speaker 4>contemplate having a conversation?

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<v Speaker 1>I did?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm contemplated or actually I actually did? I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>before I became unreasonable, I was actually a very.

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<v Speaker 4>Nice person to halized.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I went up to her. I gave her some cookies. Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>that's nice iron people believe it or not. So I

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<v Speaker 3>gave her some cookies as oh, you know, I'm your

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<v Speaker 3>neighbor downstairs, nice to meet you. Would you mind turning

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<v Speaker 3>down your music sometimes? You know, I understand, and we

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<v Speaker 3>all have mus and blah blah blah. She's like okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but she was very unfriendly. Oh, very unfriendly. It got

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<v Speaker 3>to the point that it was like war, basically war.

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<v Speaker 3>I went food blown Chinatown, right, and then I had

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<v Speaker 3>to live because it was just not it was just

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<v Speaker 3>not good. Yeah, it was not Goodfore my own to

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<v Speaker 3>health and I just don't want to get worked up

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<v Speaker 3>every single night. Yeah, so my question is, ladies, has

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<v Speaker 3>that ever happened to you or have you had a

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<v Speaker 3>difficult neighbor that you had to deal with and what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a tough one. Apart, I've always loved apartment living.

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<v Speaker 4>When I was single, I lived in apartments and then

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<v Speaker 4>for my first few years of being married, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think I always picture myself in an apartment towards the

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<v Speaker 4>end of my life. I like the security of it,

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<v Speaker 4>I like the low maintenance, all of those things. But

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<v Speaker 4>you do obviously take the risks of the neighbors, which

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<v Speaker 4>are much closer to you than if you have you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the next door, but particularly the banging on the you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the ones above you is always really bad. I am

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<v Speaker 4>not one to retaliate. In fact, at my last house,

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<v Speaker 4>I've just moved house. Thankfully. I lived next door to

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<v Speaker 4>these Brazilian renters who were obscenely good looking, all of them.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't understand that. There seemed to be multiple generations

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<v Speaker 4>who were in the house, and they used to have

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<v Speaker 4>these amazing parties with music. They'd have barbecues, sit all dancing,

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<v Speaker 4>and my kids would love it. They would go and

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<v Speaker 4>jump on the trampoline and they'd wave over the fen

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<v Speaker 4>and they were lovely that they would play the music

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<v Speaker 4>so loud until four five in the morning. And on

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<v Speaker 4>that side of the house. My bedroom was on the

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<v Speaker 4>other side, but on that side of the house where

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<v Speaker 4>my kids slept, it was so loud that they could

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<v Speaker 4>they would all come and jump into my bed so

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<v Speaker 4>that they could get away. And did I live there

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<v Speaker 4>for two and a half years. Did I ever say anything?

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely not. I just let the kids sleep in my

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<v Speaker 4>bed on that night, and I prayed that someone else

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<v Speaker 4>would call the police. But I've just accepted that I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not a complainer. I really appreciate the complainers because I

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<v Speaker 4>get to enjoy the benefits of having that noise reduction

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<v Speaker 4>when you do complain. So thank you, Grace. But I

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<v Speaker 4>have other qualities, and one of them is not stopping

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<v Speaker 4>the noise. I look around for the adult to go

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<v Speaker 4>and sort that shit out, because I just really wanted

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<v Speaker 4>the Brazilian neighbors to like me.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I might need grace. In my current abode. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in a world of pain. Yes, I also think as

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<v Speaker 2>I've become a bit older, and maybe it's perry, but

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I've got sonar like bats hearing, so

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<v Speaker 2>I will hear noise when yeah, and it's really which

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<v Speaker 2>is a real I don't even think it's a blessing.

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<v Speaker 6>It's just a curse. Shits me now.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've lived in my I'm on the top floor

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<v Speaker 2>of an art deco block. I've lived there for four years.

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<v Speaker 2>There's only fifteen apartments.

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<v Speaker 6>I love it. I did love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I share one common wall, which is my bedroom wall

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<v Speaker 2>and my neighbor's open plan kitchen and lounge. There was

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<v Speaker 2>always an older lady that lived in that apart until

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<v Speaker 2>she moved, and now there's a young couple and it's

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<v Speaker 2>the wall.

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<v Speaker 6>So I've done.

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<v Speaker 2>I've moved my bed head off the shared wall, so

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<v Speaker 2>I've moved my bedroom around. I've bought five different sets

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<v Speaker 2>of ear plugs. It's cost me a fortune. I've bought

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<v Speaker 2>a sound machine to try and.

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<v Speaker 6>Not hear the noise.

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<v Speaker 2>And so now when my son isn't home and they

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<v Speaker 2>have people over on a Saturday night because they're the

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<v Speaker 2>two am as a thrich, I have to sleep in

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<v Speaker 2>his room. So I am actually going to move out.

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<v Speaker 2>My lace is up in November and I can't.

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<v Speaker 6>I can't deal with it.

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<v Speaker 2>And the downside is I hear him at five am

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<v Speaker 2>when he wakes up to go to work, so that

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<v Speaker 2>starts your day off at five. But if they've not

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<v Speaker 2>gone to bed till like eleven thirty at night, which

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<v Speaker 2>is so fine, people can have a life.

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<v Speaker 6>I like to be in bed by nine thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I'm staying away till eleven thirty and I'm hearing

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<v Speaker 2>him p at five am eleven a shower.

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<v Speaker 3>So spoken to them.

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<v Speaker 6>I have the first So.

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<v Speaker 2>They move in, and they were really noisy, and by

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<v Speaker 2>the second weekend that they were there, she smashed a window.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so noisy, and the lady that lives underneath her,

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<v Speaker 2>we were like, this is not okay. We've allowed them

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<v Speaker 2>to move in and make moving in this is ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I'm not very confrontational, so I did.

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<v Speaker 6>I knocked the door.

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<v Speaker 2>The next day, I was so frazzled and I just

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<v Speaker 2>went I just was so shaky. Anyway, I just said,

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<v Speaker 2>the noise travels, you guys, don't it's a wooden floor,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's a really I was like, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>quiet building.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, quiet, It's like.

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<v Speaker 2>She was just she had an un you know, can

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<v Speaker 2>I say unhinged just slightly like.

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<v Speaker 6>One of those looks, and she was. She sort of

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<v Speaker 6>didn't apologize.

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<v Speaker 2>If I had just moved into a block and not

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<v Speaker 2>a deco like nineteen twenty s block and smashed a window,

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<v Speaker 2>I would have been like, OD, I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So so far we've got Grace who would complain, cath

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<v Speaker 4>and I who would.

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<v Speaker 5>Move, Yeah, have moved, And well, my entire neighborhood is

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<v Speaker 5>at war.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So there is a house I better not say too much,

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<v Speaker 5>but like, very very very close to me where there

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<v Speaker 5>was a protracted building project which the neighbors not only

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<v Speaker 5>from my street but from like the street that backs

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<v Speaker 5>onto us joined like it's it's a big war and

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<v Speaker 5>to object against the correct and then evidently the people

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<v Speaker 5>who were doing the building apparently are not very nice people.

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<v Speaker 1>And so there was.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of words had across the neighborhood, and I

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<v Speaker 5>moved in to the eye of the storm.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to well, I don't do that. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>do it in divorces.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't do it when I've got patients where the

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<v Speaker 5>husband comes in and tells me his side of the

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<v Speaker 5>story and the life comes in and tells me do

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<v Speaker 5>that I am. I am Switzerland. So when it comes

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<v Speaker 5>to the neighbors, I am Switzerland. But they were getting

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<v Speaker 5>pretty pissy that I was not joining the campaign at council.

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<v Speaker 4>You've got to join the campaign. You need like you've

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<v Speaker 4>got to pick aside. You're not a doctor anymore. This

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<v Speaker 4>is in your neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>This is and you know, but you know your dog

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<v Speaker 1>could be poisoned. I don't know. So I have so

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<v Speaker 1>figh neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a very lovely neighborhood. It is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's very leafy with it's very quiet.

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<v Speaker 4>But they're often the ones exactly right.

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<v Speaker 5>They are the exact ones you've got to watch. And

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<v Speaker 5>I am just hedging my beds. I'm remaining Switzerland. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know how long I'm going.

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<v Speaker 1>To be able to do it for.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, when somebody comes over to try and

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<v Speaker 5>recruit me to their cause, I'm like, yep, absolutely, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>there with you. And then the other side comes over

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<v Speaker 5>and I do the exact same thing.

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<v Speaker 4>You're the voter who takes every card, I am.

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<v Speaker 2>I do that too, Yeah, I actually yeah, And your

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<v Speaker 2>street could end up on a current affair.

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<v Speaker 1>I reckon, come in. Yeah, I know, Sally, We've got

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<v Speaker 1>to talk. I have just got so many stories.

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<v Speaker 5>So the problem is that they get together and go,

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<v Speaker 5>Ginny's on our side, and they're like, no, Ginny's on

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<v Speaker 5>our side anyway. I'm just definitely I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 5>make my numbers stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's basically it's coming to get me and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>getting not at all anxious about it. I don't give

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<v Speaker 1>a shit.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just like staying Switzerland and I'm not getting involved.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, Grace, I feel like you would not

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<v Speaker 5>be this calm in my situation.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I'm not a calm person. I mean, as you're no,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think you do need to pick a side.

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<v Speaker 4>So talking about crazy neighborhood stories, I almost had a

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<v Speaker 4>big windfall on Facebook Marketplace this day.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean almost.

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<v Speaker 4>Well this is the story. So I, as you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I've recently moved into a new house. I'm decorating on

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<v Speaker 4>a shoe string and I've actually been obsessed with these

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<v Speaker 4>nice hand blown glass sort of ornaments and I found

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<v Speaker 4>these beautiful There's this beautiful bowl and plate dirt. Cheap

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<v Speaker 4>was like twenty bucks both of them, and it was

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<v Speaker 4>available right near my house, and so I went straight

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<v Speaker 4>into the DMS. I wrung it up. I said, I'll

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<v Speaker 4>take it, And then I started driving there on the

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<v Speaker 4>way back from dropping my kids at school. And it

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<v Speaker 4>was one of those neighborhoods that you know is nearby,

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<v Speaker 4>but you haven't actually been there before. And suddenly you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I live in a fairly nice kind of neighborhood, but

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<v Speaker 4>suddenly it kind of drops off a cliff, and you're

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<v Speaker 4>starting to like wind the windows up and think, what

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<v Speaker 4>locked the door? Where are we now? And anyway, I

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<v Speaker 4>pulled up in front of this house and there were

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<v Speaker 4>a few other cars in the street, and I got

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<v Speaker 4>out and outside this very nice, little suburban, blond brick home,

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<v Speaker 4>there was a short line of people waiting outside, and

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<v Speaker 4>so I joined the line and I got to chatting,

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<v Speaker 4>and it turned out that this woman was selling her

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<v Speaker 4>mother's goods. She her mother had passed away, and she

0:20:00.594 --> 0:20:04.033
<v Speaker 4>was selling items, and she had a very strict system.

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<v Speaker 4>So people would come to the door, they would knock,

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<v Speaker 4>I would say what they had bought. The door would open,

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<v Speaker 4>then it would close again, and off the woman would go.

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<v Speaker 4>She would come back, she'd hand over the goods. She

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<v Speaker 4>sent them to a little table where they were able

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<v Speaker 4>to inspect the goods and if all was fine, the

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<v Speaker 4>money was exchange enough, they went. So I am a

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<v Speaker 4>rule follower. I went. I followed the rule. I was

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<v Speaker 4>ready and waiting with my cash in my hand. Got

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<v Speaker 4>to my turn, same thing. Door opened. She handed me

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<v Speaker 4>a plate and a bowl and they were cling filmed,

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<v Speaker 4>which I thought was really interesting. Not a bad way

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<v Speaker 4>actually to protect glass. And she said, go to the

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<v Speaker 4>table and check it out. Now I wouldn't normally do that.

0:20:45.234 --> 0:20:47.073
<v Speaker 4>I tend to trust and just throw it in the car.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd properly break on the way home, and that's my fault.

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<v Speaker 4>But I thought everyone else is doing it, I'll do

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<v Speaker 4>it too. So I went to the little table, unpeeled

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<v Speaker 4>the clean wrap off the first one, fine, took it off,

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<v Speaker 4>unrepealed the second one off the bowl and the ball

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<v Speaker 4>is full of cash what with elastic bands? I reckon

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<v Speaker 4>it was a thousand, couple of thousands wrapped up.

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<v Speaker 1>It is for twenty bucks. I'll take it, Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was with There was another guy there and

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<v Speaker 4>he was like, I bought the wrong thing. And so

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<v Speaker 4>I went back because I am you know, I'm a

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<v Speaker 4>raw follower, and I went back, knocked on the door.

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<v Speaker 4>The woman answered, very irritably, what are you doing back?

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<v Speaker 4>And I held it up and I saw the moment

0:21:33.074 --> 0:21:34.954
<v Speaker 4>of realizing that, like she obviously I don't know if

0:21:34.954 --> 0:21:37.954
<v Speaker 4>she'd been looking for it, but she recognized it immediately

0:21:38.154 --> 0:21:40.073
<v Speaker 4>before I could even sort of explain what happened.

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<v Speaker 6>And she took it, grabbed it a bat and she shot.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was like, right, okay, anyway, this is my

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<v Speaker 4>I don't have any way of confirming this, but my

0:21:50.434 --> 0:21:52.754
<v Speaker 4>take is that her mother had obviously hidden some money

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<v Speaker 4>in there, and that was something that now she had found.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I have my own story of this happening to

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<v Speaker 4>me a few years back, when my great auntie Gwen

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<v Speaker 4>rang me. She was on her way to the hospital.

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<v Speaker 4>She'd had a fall, and she rang to let me know.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought that she was going to be there and

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<v Speaker 4>to meet her at the hospital, and I said, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll be there soon, and she said, I need you

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<v Speaker 4>to go to my home seal and you need to

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<v Speaker 4>let yourself in, and you need to go into the

0:22:17.074 --> 0:22:22.074
<v Speaker 4>spare bedroom, behind the chest of drawers, under a pile

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<v Speaker 4>of newspaper. You'll find my hot water bottle. And I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just like, right, I can pick you up a hot

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<v Speaker 4>water I've got one here. Why don't I just bring

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<v Speaker 4>that in? And she said, no, no, I need you

0:22:33.434 --> 0:22:36.194
<v Speaker 4>to go and get my hot water bottle. Okay, great,

0:22:36.634 --> 0:22:39.353
<v Speaker 4>went to her house. On the way there, I'm on

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<v Speaker 4>the speaker phone with all of my family and everyone

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<v Speaker 4>is trying to guess what they think it might be.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, my brother's thought drugs, you know, maybe she

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<v Speaker 4>was a granny drug dealer, something like that. Turns out

0:22:50.754 --> 0:22:54.793
<v Speaker 4>thirty thousand dollars hot water bottle.

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<v Speaker 1>Who because she how did she get it in?

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<v Speaker 5>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>It was rolled again, elastic bands enrolled and she was

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<v Speaker 4>getting a pension, and I think she didn't what She's

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<v Speaker 4>gone to that big poker venue in the sky now,

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<v Speaker 4>So there's no need to come after her if you're

0:23:09.114 --> 0:23:12.513
<v Speaker 4>But she was a tax evader. And the worst bit

0:23:12.554 --> 0:23:14.994
<v Speaker 4>about it is then once we had taken custody of it,

0:23:15.074 --> 0:23:18.074
<v Speaker 4>we're thinking what do we do with it? And so

0:23:18.314 --> 0:23:21.994
<v Speaker 4>I had to take it to the bank nine hundred

0:23:22.074 --> 0:23:24.754
<v Speaker 4>and ninety nine dollars at a time to put it

0:23:24.834 --> 0:23:25.554
<v Speaker 4>into her bank.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, it's going to be entertainer isn't it.

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<v Speaker 4>So I am wondering because I am the kind of

0:23:32.994 --> 0:23:35.234
<v Speaker 4>basic bitch that just puts my money in the bank.

0:23:36.114 --> 0:23:39.394
<v Speaker 4>But there are all these great stories about people hiding

0:23:39.394 --> 0:23:41.313
<v Speaker 4>it in the walls and the hot water bottles and

0:23:41.314 --> 0:23:44.234
<v Speaker 4>the plastic bowls. Do you guys have any stories about

0:23:44.234 --> 0:23:47.154
<v Speaker 4>people hiding money? Do you hide your money? If so weird,

0:23:47.194 --> 0:23:50.354
<v Speaker 4>do you hide it? I need to hear your stories.

0:23:50.474 --> 0:23:51.634
<v Speaker 4>I don't hide anything.

0:23:51.754 --> 0:23:53.954
<v Speaker 3>Is I'm cash list these days when people got over

0:23:54.034 --> 0:23:56.754
<v Speaker 3>got cash, I'm are you crazy? After COVID, I'm like,

0:23:56.794 --> 0:23:59.874
<v Speaker 3>no cash. So that's very common in that generation.

0:23:59.994 --> 0:24:02.234
<v Speaker 4>I think it's the germs. You don't like the cash.

0:24:02.434 --> 0:24:04.994
<v Speaker 3>No. I mean having said that, I do wash my money,

0:24:05.274 --> 0:24:07.674
<v Speaker 3>do you yes? I washed all her money? Oh my,

0:24:08.074 --> 0:24:11.754
<v Speaker 3>anytime in the saying with soapeople payer money.

0:24:11.874 --> 0:24:12.114
<v Speaker 6>Yes.

0:24:14.274 --> 0:24:15.073
<v Speaker 4>Do you know what? Ladies?

0:24:15.394 --> 0:24:15.793
<v Speaker 1>Try it?

0:24:15.954 --> 0:24:18.273
<v Speaker 3>When you go home tonight. You can wash your money,

0:24:18.434 --> 0:24:20.954
<v Speaker 3>the notes and just let it dry. It drives anyway.

0:24:21.074 --> 0:24:25.114
<v Speaker 3>My point is my grandmother put everything in like biscuit tins,

0:24:25.794 --> 0:24:27.874
<v Speaker 3>you know, stuff like that. That's what they do in

0:24:27.914 --> 0:24:31.794
<v Speaker 3>that generation. My mother sometimes I think, But my mother

0:24:31.954 --> 0:24:35.914
<v Speaker 3>all our family apartment in Hong Kong, she had a

0:24:35.954 --> 0:24:40.834
<v Speaker 3>lot of hidden like drawers and stuff. And she hide

0:24:40.874 --> 0:24:43.554
<v Speaker 3>all her jewelry like safe somewhere. I mean, I don't

0:24:43.594 --> 0:24:45.274
<v Speaker 3>know where they are, but sometimes she hide her money

0:24:45.314 --> 0:24:47.474
<v Speaker 3>in there. So you need to know, you need.

0:24:47.314 --> 0:24:48.994
<v Speaker 1>To do That's the point.

0:24:49.154 --> 0:24:50.954
<v Speaker 4>Like I was, I said to Gwynn, what would you

0:24:50.994 --> 0:24:51.954
<v Speaker 4>have done if we didn't know?

0:24:53.034 --> 0:24:54.914
<v Speaker 6>You would have definitely chucked a hot water bottle out?

0:24:55.914 --> 0:24:58.554
<v Speaker 3>She said, the people at Goodwill would have had a windfall.

0:25:01.234 --> 0:25:03.793
<v Speaker 3>If that guy took your plate, he would not have

0:25:03.834 --> 0:25:05.114
<v Speaker 3>given Yeah.

0:25:05.154 --> 0:25:08.354
<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, I always think that there's bad karma in

0:25:08.434 --> 0:25:13.274
<v Speaker 4>taking someone else money, but I do think that they

0:25:13.354 --> 0:25:15.314
<v Speaker 4>have to tell at least one person. If you are

0:25:15.354 --> 0:25:17.474
<v Speaker 4>going to hide your money and you are towards the

0:25:17.554 --> 0:25:19.954
<v Speaker 4>end of your life or ill, it might make sense

0:25:20.034 --> 0:25:23.154
<v Speaker 4>to let someone know who've hidden the cash.

0:25:23.234 --> 0:25:25.634
<v Speaker 3>I know, it's crazy, do gd you hide anything.

0:25:25.954 --> 0:25:27.874
<v Speaker 1>I don't have anything to hide. I'm just trying to

0:25:27.874 --> 0:25:28.434
<v Speaker 1>think of something.

0:25:28.594 --> 0:25:33.954
<v Speaker 3>I've got no money to hide, what cash and and.

0:25:33.914 --> 0:25:36.394
<v Speaker 5>Like jewelry, I'm sort of not a big jewelry person,

0:25:36.434 --> 0:25:37.594
<v Speaker 5>so I have lots of fake stuff.

0:25:37.594 --> 0:25:40.154
<v Speaker 1>But you know, if you want that.

0:25:41.914 --> 0:25:45.594
<v Speaker 5>Whatever, I yeah, just don't really have and I don't

0:25:45.714 --> 0:25:47.273
<v Speaker 5>have medications.

0:25:47.314 --> 0:25:50.793
<v Speaker 1>But my script pads. Script pads, you know, in the

0:25:50.914 --> 0:25:52.434
<v Speaker 1>days before you.

0:25:52.314 --> 0:25:56.314
<v Speaker 5>Had electronic like SMS scripts, you had script pads, which

0:25:56.354 --> 0:25:59.033
<v Speaker 5>if they fell into the wrong hands, you could be

0:25:59.114 --> 0:26:01.754
<v Speaker 5>the person supplying all of the sleeping pills and that

0:26:02.314 --> 0:26:05.074
<v Speaker 5>full on painkillers to like everybody in the neighborhood. So

0:26:05.274 --> 0:26:06.954
<v Speaker 5>those were the things that I did need to.

0:26:07.994 --> 0:26:09.594
<v Speaker 4>Like did you have them under lock and key or

0:26:09.594 --> 0:26:10.434
<v Speaker 4>how did you hide them?

0:26:10.714 --> 0:26:13.274
<v Speaker 5>Because I don't have a safe, I don't have any

0:26:13.314 --> 0:26:15.714
<v Speaker 5>of that sort of stuff. You're meant to sort of

0:26:15.914 --> 0:26:20.514
<v Speaker 5>keep them in your surgery in like behind lock and key.

0:26:20.554 --> 0:26:22.834
<v Speaker 5>But like often I'd bring one home just in case

0:26:23.274 --> 0:26:25.354
<v Speaker 5>and sort of hide it under a parlor paper or

0:26:25.394 --> 0:26:28.034
<v Speaker 5>between some books, and then I'd forget where i'd lave it,

0:26:28.474 --> 0:26:30.994
<v Speaker 5>and then my mum would say I need something in

0:26:31.114 --> 0:26:32.194
<v Speaker 5>some emergency and I'd.

0:26:31.994 --> 0:26:33.954
<v Speaker 1>Be like, yeah, I can't find where it is.

0:26:34.194 --> 0:26:34.434
<v Speaker 4>Check.

0:26:34.554 --> 0:26:36.634
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's the only thing I've ever needed to hide.

0:26:36.714 --> 0:26:39.114
<v Speaker 2>Well, Sal, I've got to say, if I found the

0:26:39.154 --> 0:26:42.314
<v Speaker 2>cash like you did, I would have absolutely done the

0:26:42.354 --> 0:26:45.194
<v Speaker 2>same thing. Because I'm an absolute stickler for the rules.

0:26:45.994 --> 0:26:49.273
<v Speaker 2>I really am quite anal when it comes to rule keeping.

0:26:49.674 --> 0:26:52.354
<v Speaker 2>I was the person in COVID that like just never

0:26:52.434 --> 0:26:54.554
<v Speaker 2>broke a rule. I would not see anyone if they're

0:26:54.594 --> 0:26:57.554
<v Speaker 2>outside the five ks. I'm the person that comes out

0:26:57.594 --> 0:26:59.474
<v Speaker 2>the tunnel or the bridge in Sydney at the moment

0:26:59.474 --> 0:27:02.194
<v Speaker 2>they're changing all the lanes from eighty to sixty and

0:27:02.234 --> 0:27:05.114
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm the one cargoing sixty is all the

0:27:05.154 --> 0:27:06.954
<v Speaker 2>trucks are going past to eighty and I'm like.

0:27:07.234 --> 0:27:10.114
<v Speaker 6>You not seeing this? I go as far as there's

0:27:10.154 --> 0:27:11.754
<v Speaker 6>a I always walk in Centennial Park.

0:27:12.074 --> 0:27:14.394
<v Speaker 2>There's a lane that you shouldn't take because it's a

0:27:14.394 --> 0:27:16.794
<v Speaker 2>bike lane, and I've seen a lot of people stop

0:27:16.834 --> 0:27:19.553
<v Speaker 2>by the cops doing it. So I'm a stickle of it,

0:27:19.714 --> 0:27:21.394
<v Speaker 2>like waiting till I can turn, and then I'll get

0:27:21.394 --> 0:27:23.754
<v Speaker 2>out of the car to people who've done that. If

0:27:23.794 --> 0:27:26.954
<v Speaker 2>the lights are on red and go f YI, there's

0:27:27.034 --> 0:27:29.754
<v Speaker 2>usually cops there and you get like three points and

0:27:29.794 --> 0:27:31.954
<v Speaker 2>about four hundred dollars, which I've got. I've had a

0:27:31.994 --> 0:27:37.314
<v Speaker 2>mixed review of banks and puck Off. But I broke

0:27:37.354 --> 0:27:37.914
<v Speaker 2>the rules.

0:27:38.634 --> 0:27:41.074
<v Speaker 4>What did you do.

0:27:41.594 --> 0:27:43.474
<v Speaker 6>Actually broke the rules?

0:27:43.914 --> 0:27:47.033
<v Speaker 2>I went in to my local supermarket and you know

0:27:47.074 --> 0:27:49.834
<v Speaker 2>how there are like parking bays just for people who

0:27:49.834 --> 0:27:56.634
<v Speaker 2>are clicking collecting? Yeah, an hour shop to let some sushi,

0:27:56.674 --> 0:28:02.154
<v Speaker 2>and then came back. Why I was there was nobody

0:28:02.194 --> 0:28:04.114
<v Speaker 2>park there, and they've just I mean, I was going

0:28:04.194 --> 0:28:08.033
<v Speaker 2>to shop at the Click and collect supermarket. It I

0:28:08.114 --> 0:28:10.874
<v Speaker 2>just hadn't for you know, for thought to do it.

0:28:11.034 --> 0:28:14.394
<v Speaker 2>So disappointing, I know, and I couldn't make eye contact

0:28:14.434 --> 0:28:17.034
<v Speaker 2>with the lovely lady that was delivering someone's click and

0:28:17.074 --> 0:28:18.154
<v Speaker 2>collect to another car.

0:28:18.834 --> 0:28:19.474
<v Speaker 6>She was on.

0:28:21.354 --> 0:28:23.314
<v Speaker 1>To get out of there, get out of Dodge.

0:28:23.434 --> 0:28:24.434
<v Speaker 3>Did that make you feel good?

0:28:24.674 --> 0:28:26.514
<v Speaker 6>I'm in therapy.

0:28:28.674 --> 0:28:32.154
<v Speaker 1>To undred thousand of friends twitch.

0:28:31.954 --> 0:28:36.434
<v Speaker 2>As they say, Grace, tell me, do you break the rules?

0:28:36.514 --> 0:28:37.234
<v Speaker 6>You keep the rules?

0:28:37.354 --> 0:28:38.314
<v Speaker 4>I mean people think.

0:28:39.034 --> 0:28:41.274
<v Speaker 3>I break the rule all the time in certain places

0:28:41.394 --> 0:28:43.274
<v Speaker 3>and things. I mean when you say to me, oh,

0:28:43.314 --> 0:28:45.634
<v Speaker 3>don't wear that, don't do it, I'm like, watch me, yeah,

0:28:45.714 --> 0:28:46.274
<v Speaker 3>fuck you.

0:28:46.034 --> 0:28:47.754
<v Speaker 4>You like to break a fashion rule?

0:28:47.834 --> 0:28:48.634
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, definitely.

0:28:49.354 --> 0:28:50.794
<v Speaker 3>But I'm a bit like you're like, you know, I

0:28:50.874 --> 0:28:52.994
<v Speaker 3>drive for a safe you know, under a limit.

0:28:53.114 --> 0:28:53.674
<v Speaker 1>All of that.

0:28:54.234 --> 0:28:57.394
<v Speaker 3>But I think when it comes to personality, when people go, oh,

0:28:57.434 --> 0:28:59.114
<v Speaker 3>you know, I don't like this about you. What I

0:28:59.154 --> 0:29:01.754
<v Speaker 3>don't change for people? You know, So in that kind

0:29:01.754 --> 0:29:04.474
<v Speaker 3>of not really I mean I do break rules in

0:29:04.514 --> 0:29:05.634
<v Speaker 3>certain areas, but not some.

0:29:06.114 --> 0:29:06.354
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:29:07.114 --> 0:29:09.594
<v Speaker 4>Any would you be able like a rule follower to meet?

0:29:09.874 --> 0:29:10.114
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

0:29:10.234 --> 0:29:14.594
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm definitely a goody two shoes and

0:29:14.714 --> 0:29:18.434
<v Speaker 5>I have like staked my entire life on being like

0:29:18.714 --> 0:29:22.234
<v Speaker 5>the basically the girl scout, the school captain of goody

0:29:22.274 --> 0:29:26.474
<v Speaker 5>two shoeses. So I lie to in COVID was like

0:29:27.194 --> 0:29:29.274
<v Speaker 5>every time my neighbors would be like lighting up a

0:29:29.354 --> 0:29:31.714
<v Speaker 5>joint with you know, five hookers in the next door

0:29:32.394 --> 0:29:32.714
<v Speaker 5>in the.

0:29:32.674 --> 0:29:33.634
<v Speaker 6>Spa do that.

0:29:36.594 --> 0:29:40.914
<v Speaker 5>I did find out that it's a psychological issue, is it?

0:29:41.034 --> 0:29:42.074
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it has a name.

0:29:42.314 --> 0:29:42.874
<v Speaker 6>What is it?

0:29:42.994 --> 0:29:46.314
<v Speaker 5>Yeah? So it's a schemer. It's a schemer of justice

0:29:46.434 --> 0:29:47.154
<v Speaker 5>and fairness.

0:29:47.914 --> 0:29:48.074
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:29:48.154 --> 0:29:51.154
<v Speaker 1>Have you heard of this as anyone? I had, but

0:29:51.194 --> 0:29:51.514
<v Speaker 1>I had it.

0:29:51.594 --> 0:29:53.434
<v Speaker 4>I have heard of the schemers, but I didn't know this.

0:29:53.834 --> 0:29:54.034
<v Speaker 3>Yees.

0:29:54.234 --> 0:29:58.474
<v Speaker 5>So it's when you think everybody should adhere to the rules,

0:29:58.834 --> 0:30:02.034
<v Speaker 5>and then it upsets you when other people are not

0:30:02.114 --> 0:30:05.834
<v Speaker 5>adhering to the rules. So you see someone I've got

0:30:05.834 --> 0:30:09.114
<v Speaker 5>that talking stability spot or on a no standing and

0:30:09.154 --> 0:30:10.834
<v Speaker 5>you're like, you can't do that, and then it really

0:30:10.954 --> 0:30:14.274
<v Speaker 5>upsets you. But the person who's doing it doesn't care,

0:30:14.754 --> 0:30:18.354
<v Speaker 5>and part of your schema therapy is to accept that

0:30:18.434 --> 0:30:20.994
<v Speaker 5>the world is not a fair place and to let

0:30:21.034 --> 0:30:23.354
<v Speaker 5>it go so that it doesn't upset you anymore.

0:30:23.394 --> 0:30:25.714
<v Speaker 4>Does it mean that something happened to us will be

0:30:25.714 --> 0:30:27.714
<v Speaker 4>stabbed in the back of the nineteen forties in a

0:30:27.794 --> 0:30:28.434
<v Speaker 4>past life.

0:30:28.914 --> 0:30:31.394
<v Speaker 5>I'm sure it means that for absolutely every single person

0:30:31.394 --> 0:30:34.154
<v Speaker 5>who has a system of justice and a schemer. Now,

0:30:34.394 --> 0:30:36.954
<v Speaker 5>I think it could be different for everyone, But I

0:30:36.994 --> 0:30:39.754
<v Speaker 5>love a good psychobabble term. I like to drop them

0:30:39.754 --> 0:30:42.314
<v Speaker 5>around like a pigeon, like pupping on everything.

0:30:42.234 --> 0:30:43.554
<v Speaker 1>And I just like, you're welcome.

0:30:43.674 --> 0:30:47.154
<v Speaker 5>I've just explained to you why it's our schemer, it's

0:30:47.194 --> 0:30:49.674
<v Speaker 5>your schemer, and you need to address this is very important.

0:30:49.714 --> 0:30:51.514
<v Speaker 5>So your rule breaking.

0:30:51.194 --> 0:30:53.514
<v Speaker 1>Which we all see as a virtue. Let's be honest.

0:30:53.714 --> 0:30:56.114
<v Speaker 5>We see we're like very out and proud with our

0:30:56.154 --> 0:30:59.154
<v Speaker 5>halo shining all of us going, aren't we very very

0:30:59.154 --> 0:31:02.314
<v Speaker 5>good rule followers? And tuch to everybody else who's not?

0:31:02.754 --> 0:31:04.314
<v Speaker 5>Turns out where the ones are the issues?

0:31:04.514 --> 0:31:07.314
<v Speaker 4>But do you think there's some science behind that that

0:31:07.314 --> 0:31:11.994
<v Speaker 4>that rule followers tend to very much attract rule breakers

0:31:12.474 --> 0:31:18.994
<v Speaker 4>like my partner, my best friend, the large majority of

0:31:19.034 --> 0:31:22.314
<v Speaker 4>my female friends are rule breakers and I am the

0:31:22.394 --> 0:31:24.554
<v Speaker 4>rule follower to the point that they will troll me.

0:31:25.434 --> 0:31:25.634
<v Speaker 7>Bye.

0:31:25.834 --> 0:31:27.874
<v Speaker 4>I once was coming back from a girl's trip to

0:31:27.954 --> 0:31:31.474
<v Speaker 4>Noosa and all of my friends carried fruit through the

0:31:31.994 --> 0:31:36.354
<v Speaker 4>buzzy machine because they were saying it didn't matter, and

0:31:36.874 --> 0:31:40.194
<v Speaker 4>I was pointing out the rules. I was so close

0:31:40.474 --> 0:31:43.754
<v Speaker 4>to actually going and tapping one of the guards and saying.

0:31:43.514 --> 0:31:44.474
<v Speaker 1>Bio hazard alone.

0:31:44.554 --> 0:31:45.874
<v Speaker 4>Chappelle corbio.

0:31:47.194 --> 0:31:47.954
<v Speaker 6>Fruit coming in.

0:31:51.874 --> 0:31:52.514
<v Speaker 5>So true.

0:31:52.674 --> 0:31:54.594
<v Speaker 4>I think, do you guys have got rule brokers in

0:31:54.634 --> 0:31:55.314
<v Speaker 4>your life?

0:31:55.474 --> 0:31:58.514
<v Speaker 5>Husband is a complete rule breaker, but it's like he's

0:31:58.554 --> 0:32:01.594
<v Speaker 5>the passive aggressive rule breaker. So he's got this thing

0:32:01.634 --> 0:32:03.794
<v Speaker 5>where like if somebody sends him an email that he

0:32:03.834 --> 0:32:06.994
<v Speaker 5>finds irritating, he will just rather than go, look, can

0:32:07.034 --> 0:32:10.754
<v Speaker 5>you rethink this and just send it again, he will

0:32:10.794 --> 0:32:13.594
<v Speaker 5>just ignore it. And so some people don't know whether

0:32:13.594 --> 0:32:15.394
<v Speaker 5>he's ignored their email because he hasn't seen it, so

0:32:15.434 --> 0:32:18.234
<v Speaker 5>they'll just resend it for six or seven times that

0:32:18.274 --> 0:32:20.634
<v Speaker 5>don't quite work out that he's like just giving them

0:32:20.634 --> 0:32:22.634
<v Speaker 5>a big light up yours. I mean, it has a

0:32:22.714 --> 0:32:25.034
<v Speaker 5>huge rule breaker and like, I find it's so hot.

0:32:25.354 --> 0:32:28.594
<v Speaker 4>Well, my best friend is so into rule breaking and

0:32:28.634 --> 0:32:31.674
<v Speaker 4>trolling me that she will occasionally, if we are in

0:32:31.714 --> 0:32:35.514
<v Speaker 4>the car together and there's no one else around, she'll

0:32:35.554 --> 0:32:37.514
<v Speaker 4>just go through a red light, and as she's doing it,

0:32:37.594 --> 0:32:38.874
<v Speaker 4>she'll just look at me like this.

0:32:39.354 --> 0:32:41.754
<v Speaker 1>No, and do you find it a bit hot?

0:32:41.994 --> 0:32:42.274
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:32:42.994 --> 0:32:45.714
<v Speaker 6>I find it distressing, distressing, and.

0:32:46.074 --> 0:32:47.194
<v Speaker 3>It's very distressing.

0:32:47.514 --> 0:32:51.474
<v Speaker 4>But it's interesting that you came with the schema information, Ginny,

0:32:51.514 --> 0:32:54.754
<v Speaker 4>because I also came prepared as a rule follower that i'mllent,

0:32:54.954 --> 0:32:57.554
<v Speaker 4>and I did some research into the spiritual reasons that

0:32:57.634 --> 0:32:59.714
<v Speaker 4>we may be rule followers, which I thought would appear

0:32:59.754 --> 0:33:03.674
<v Speaker 4>to Ucap and not at all to Eugene. So some

0:33:03.794 --> 0:33:06.474
<v Speaker 4>spiritual reasons that you may be a rule follower, that

0:33:06.594 --> 0:33:09.554
<v Speaker 4>you're an old soul, you have lived many lifetimes and

0:33:09.634 --> 0:33:13.114
<v Speaker 4>learned your lessons. You return the trolley because three incarnations

0:33:13.154 --> 0:33:17.154
<v Speaker 4>ago you didn't, and the universe still remembers rule breakers

0:33:17.234 --> 0:33:21.034
<v Speaker 4>baby souls. First, rodeo. The second reason you've got a

0:33:21.074 --> 0:33:25.474
<v Speaker 4>Capricorn moon somewhere in your chart, Saturn, the planet planet

0:33:25.514 --> 0:33:28.234
<v Speaker 4>of discipline and cosmic rule enforcement, is running the show.

0:33:28.434 --> 0:33:32.234
<v Speaker 4>Saturn doesn't do close enough. Saturn indicates Capricorn, and Saturn

0:33:32.314 --> 0:33:33.114
<v Speaker 4>is my ruling planet.

0:33:33.234 --> 0:33:34.954
<v Speaker 6>I did know that about you.

0:33:34.954 --> 0:33:39.194
<v Speaker 4>Your energy needs to flow. Chaos scrambles your chakra. Oh,

0:33:39.514 --> 0:33:42.754
<v Speaker 4>rules are just boundaries, and boundaries are self care. You're

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<v Speaker 4>not rigid. You're protecting your peace. Second last one, it's

0:33:47.234 --> 0:33:50.474
<v Speaker 4>past life calma. You were clearly a monk, or a

0:33:50.554 --> 0:33:54.954
<v Speaker 4>lighthouse keeper or a medieval scribe ruling straight margins by candlelight.

0:33:55.234 --> 0:33:59.914
<v Speaker 4>The soul remembers the margins. And finally, you're a highly

0:33:59.994 --> 0:34:03.354
<v Speaker 4>sensitive EmPATH. When someone doesn't indicate you feel it in

0:34:03.394 --> 0:34:07.674
<v Speaker 4>your body, that's not anxiety, that spiritual achunement. So if

0:34:07.714 --> 0:34:10.394
<v Speaker 4>you need a line to explain that you're a rule follower,

0:34:10.433 --> 0:34:13.073
<v Speaker 4>you can go with I'm not neurotic. I'm an old

0:34:13.114 --> 0:34:16.194
<v Speaker 4>soul with a Capricorn moon protecting my peace. My therapist

0:34:16.234 --> 0:34:18.674
<v Speaker 4>calls it anxiety, but she doesn't know my chart.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I thought very much. May thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, it is time for other people's problems. This is

0:34:40.914 --> 0:34:43.553
<v Speaker 2>a part of the show where you send us your dilemmas,

0:34:43.634 --> 0:34:46.794
<v Speaker 2>your questions, and your moral gray areas, and we attempt

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<v Speaker 2>to well. I guess of for good advice. Let's see

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<v Speaker 2>what we've got this week. This week's problem comes from Kelly. Ladies,

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<v Speaker 2>I need your help specifically from Miss Sally and Miss Mahoney.

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<v Speaker 6>Two years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I ended my fourteen year relationship, married eleven years and

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<v Speaker 2>have three gorgeous girls. We tried therapy but had outgrown

0:35:05.914 --> 0:35:09.594
<v Speaker 2>each other amicable now and I still consider him a friend,

0:35:10.114 --> 0:35:12.714
<v Speaker 2>even if I'm grateful he's my ex. So now I'm

0:35:12.714 --> 0:35:15.754
<v Speaker 2>back in the dating game, which I'd never really done before.

0:35:16.354 --> 0:35:20.234
<v Speaker 2>Updating has given me trauma. I've been ghosted mid date.

0:35:20.634 --> 0:35:24.514
<v Speaker 2>I've been motor booted. Motive booted during a motivoated?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that when between the buzzies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, must be most motor boated they had nowdays during

0:35:32.914 --> 0:35:36.034
<v Speaker 2>a hug because the guy was so short. Men in

0:35:36.194 --> 0:35:39.874
<v Speaker 2>my area actually suck anytime I match. Now, I freeze

0:35:39.874 --> 0:35:41.993
<v Speaker 2>and have no idea how to turn it into a date.

0:35:42.474 --> 0:35:44.154
<v Speaker 2>How do I get myself out of the rut and

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<v Speaker 2>out on some dates? I love myself. I know I'm

0:35:47.434 --> 0:35:50.274
<v Speaker 2>amazing human and fun to be around, but I just

0:35:50.354 --> 0:35:53.074
<v Speaker 2>have this thought, why the hell would a man choose

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<v Speaker 2>me to date?

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<v Speaker 6>Too much to handle? Any advice would be gratefully received.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh geez, the first of all, love yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, Yes, any guys who's going to come along

0:36:04.474 --> 0:36:06.794
<v Speaker 3>should be lucky to have you, to be with you,

0:36:07.194 --> 0:36:09.714
<v Speaker 3>have you sorry, but definitely love yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's to start.

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<v Speaker 6>That's a good start.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think that there was two things that jumped

0:36:13.994 --> 0:36:16.433
<v Speaker 4>out to me. Then there's the first one is that

0:36:16.714 --> 0:36:18.354
<v Speaker 4>you know, how do we get out there and how

0:36:18.354 --> 0:36:23.594
<v Speaker 4>to date? And obviously the apps can be problematic. And

0:36:23.634 --> 0:36:27.394
<v Speaker 4>then the other part is about her own feelings about herself,

0:36:27.394 --> 0:36:30.514
<v Speaker 4>which I think she said that she does love herself.

0:36:30.754 --> 0:36:33.674
<v Speaker 4>But then she followed that up by saying, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know why a man would choose me or something.

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<v Speaker 6>Is that what she says?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I wonder we're missing a bit of information, Like

0:36:41.634 --> 0:36:45.914
<v Speaker 4>I'm interested in how long it's been since the relationship ended,

0:36:46.074 --> 0:36:46.953
<v Speaker 4>how old you are?

0:36:47.314 --> 0:36:47.554
<v Speaker 3>You know?

0:36:47.834 --> 0:36:50.354
<v Speaker 4>And I only asked that because sometimes you know, those

0:36:50.434 --> 0:36:53.274
<v Speaker 4>really having really young children as well, a lot of

0:36:53.314 --> 0:36:56.754
<v Speaker 4>things can affect your readiness and self esteem and all

0:36:56.754 --> 0:37:01.354
<v Speaker 4>of those things. I can say, just because they specifically

0:37:02.394 --> 0:37:10.314
<v Speaker 4>mentioned me, I have never felt more common and more

0:37:10.514 --> 0:37:12.754
<v Speaker 4>self love than I do right now. And it wasn't

0:37:12.754 --> 0:37:16.794
<v Speaker 4>something that magically came after I got divorced. So I

0:37:16.794 --> 0:37:19.754
<v Speaker 4>can say now, three years down the track, I feel

0:37:19.834 --> 0:37:24.634
<v Speaker 4>so much more centered and so much more self love.

0:37:26.194 --> 0:37:28.074
<v Speaker 4>It's because I did take a bit of time. So

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<v Speaker 4>that's the other thing. I had a bit of time

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<v Speaker 4>to where I did meditation causes, I did a lot

0:37:35.154 --> 0:37:38.354
<v Speaker 4>of therapy, a lot of journaling. I really threw myself

0:37:38.394 --> 0:37:42.034
<v Speaker 4>into healing from my divorce like it was a job.

0:37:43.194 --> 0:37:45.634
<v Speaker 4>And even then it was a year when I met

0:37:45.634 --> 0:37:48.034
<v Speaker 4>my partner sort of by accident, and I wondered if

0:37:48.034 --> 0:37:50.874
<v Speaker 4>that was you know, that seemed to come about quite quickly.

0:37:52.314 --> 0:37:55.513
<v Speaker 4>And I think that then when you are out there

0:37:55.794 --> 0:37:58.314
<v Speaker 4>meeting people can happen in all sorts of ways. But

0:37:58.354 --> 0:38:00.114
<v Speaker 4>I am a bit of a believer, and this is

0:38:00.154 --> 0:38:02.513
<v Speaker 4>where I do a cynical bitch, but I.

0:38:02.474 --> 0:38:03.994
<v Speaker 1>Also will skew woo woo.

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<v Speaker 4>I think there is something about when your light is on,

0:38:07.674 --> 0:38:10.634
<v Speaker 4>and I think that there was a moment and I remember,

0:38:10.754 --> 0:38:13.674
<v Speaker 4>for me, my light was absolutely off. I was not

0:38:13.754 --> 0:38:17.393
<v Speaker 4>interested in dating. I was all about me healing, you know,

0:38:17.554 --> 0:38:20.993
<v Speaker 4>and just getting to the depths of you know, what

0:38:21.074 --> 0:38:23.954
<v Speaker 4>I could do and who I was. And then I

0:38:23.954 --> 0:38:27.194
<v Speaker 4>went on a girl's trip with my closest girlfriends, and

0:38:27.354 --> 0:38:30.074
<v Speaker 4>some moment on that trip, I thought, I think I'm

0:38:30.114 --> 0:38:34.194
<v Speaker 4>ready to go on a date, and my friend Sasha

0:38:34.274 --> 0:38:36.834
<v Speaker 4>said to me, I noticed your light come on. You

0:38:36.914 --> 0:38:39.873
<v Speaker 4>just figured out that you were ready and your light

0:38:39.954 --> 0:38:42.154
<v Speaker 4>came on. And a week later I met Dan. And

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<v Speaker 4>I hate those people who say, you know, it's like

0:38:45.314 --> 0:38:47.514
<v Speaker 4>saying to a pregnant or if somebody wants a baby,

0:38:47.514 --> 0:38:49.714
<v Speaker 4>as soon as you stop trying it or happen. I

0:38:49.714 --> 0:38:51.873
<v Speaker 4>don't think it's as simple as that, But I do

0:38:51.914 --> 0:38:55.754
<v Speaker 4>think that you get to a point of healing and

0:38:55.874 --> 0:38:59.913
<v Speaker 4>readiness where it stops being about them, needing them to

0:38:59.954 --> 0:39:04.114
<v Speaker 4>feel avoiding you, and more about you feel devoid and say,

0:39:04.314 --> 0:39:07.114
<v Speaker 4>now you're ready. You know, I think it's you sort of.

0:39:07.114 --> 0:39:09.314
<v Speaker 4>I've got a reverse engineer. It fill all your holes

0:39:09.354 --> 0:39:11.954
<v Speaker 4>yourself and then I open yourself up with your life.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been on dating app. Does it make you feel

0:39:16.634 --> 0:39:19.194
<v Speaker 3>less confident the more you are on it? Because it

0:39:19.274 --> 0:39:21.873
<v Speaker 3>seems like all this story comes out that I will

0:39:21.874 --> 0:39:24.634
<v Speaker 3>feel quite insecure, even though I'm a confident person, because

0:39:24.634 --> 0:39:27.393
<v Speaker 3>all the stories I hear, it seems so hard to

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<v Speaker 3>get on these apps.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I came off the apps because and I don't

0:39:31.994 --> 0:39:34.274
<v Speaker 2>want to say this to Kelly, because if Kelly's new

0:39:34.314 --> 0:39:36.873
<v Speaker 2>on them, it's totally different, but after quite a few

0:39:36.954 --> 0:39:39.714
<v Speaker 2>years you do see the same people doing the rounds

0:39:39.714 --> 0:39:41.913
<v Speaker 2>again on the apps and doing the rounds again on

0:39:41.954 --> 0:39:46.314
<v Speaker 2>the apps. So for me, I feel like I've really

0:39:46.354 --> 0:39:47.873
<v Speaker 2>tried the apps, you know, when I was in a

0:39:47.914 --> 0:39:50.274
<v Speaker 2>long term relationship from someone I met on an app

0:39:50.434 --> 0:39:53.714
<v Speaker 2>a few years back, so they can work, but I'm

0:39:53.714 --> 0:39:55.354
<v Speaker 2>all about now.

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<v Speaker 6>Meeting someone in real life.

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<v Speaker 2>Like today, coming to do the pod, my driver took

0:40:01.274 --> 0:40:03.474
<v Speaker 2>me to North Sydney by accident missed the turn.

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<v Speaker 6>Off, so we went through the tunnel.

0:40:05.154 --> 0:40:07.634
<v Speaker 2>We're not in North Sydney where we record this, so

0:40:07.674 --> 0:40:09.754
<v Speaker 2>I ended up getting out and walking through the city

0:40:09.834 --> 0:40:11.754
<v Speaker 2>and I was just like, I just need.

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<v Speaker 6>To be kind of where men are.

0:40:13.194 --> 0:40:15.794
<v Speaker 2>Like there were city men everywhere and you smile at

0:40:15.834 --> 0:40:19.194
<v Speaker 2>a few, like I just I think in real life

0:40:19.274 --> 0:40:20.754
<v Speaker 2>you get an energy from someone.

0:40:20.914 --> 0:40:23.554
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and also in photos.

0:40:23.754 --> 0:40:26.033
<v Speaker 2>You can't get the essence of someone. You know, someone

0:40:26.114 --> 0:40:28.394
<v Speaker 2>could be great in photos and not great in real life.

0:40:28.834 --> 0:40:30.393
<v Speaker 2>Mary said this to me a long time ago. I

0:40:30.434 --> 0:40:32.234
<v Speaker 2>think it's from her mum, and it's like, you know,

0:40:32.434 --> 0:40:35.234
<v Speaker 2>love is a feeling, not a shape, And the older

0:40:35.274 --> 0:40:37.393
<v Speaker 2>I get, I think, yeah, you think you want it

0:40:37.434 --> 0:40:39.554
<v Speaker 2>to look like something. But actually I just want to

0:40:39.714 --> 0:40:41.913
<v Speaker 2>I want to have the feels with someone, which you

0:40:41.954 --> 0:40:45.154
<v Speaker 2>can't do on an app. So I'm all about, you know,

0:40:45.234 --> 0:40:47.754
<v Speaker 2>being out in the real world and seeing who I meet.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a really out of the box suggestion for you, Kelly.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you have not asked for my advice, and that.

0:40:54.794 --> 0:40:55.554
<v Speaker 1>Is very interesting.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not doing very well well.

0:40:58.634 --> 0:41:01.393
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to give some unsolicited advice, which is what

0:41:01.434 --> 0:41:06.034
<v Speaker 5>we do best here. I have already announced to Daniel

0:41:06.154 --> 0:41:10.314
<v Speaker 5>that if he does to move on and end our marriage,

0:41:10.674 --> 0:41:13.034
<v Speaker 5>I've got a plan, and my plan is not to

0:41:13.074 --> 0:41:16.794
<v Speaker 5>go on the apps. I'm actually going to swing. I'm

0:41:16.834 --> 0:41:19.314
<v Speaker 5>actually not going to be looking for a man. I'm

0:41:19.314 --> 0:41:22.514
<v Speaker 5>going to find myself a girlfriend. And yes, this is

0:41:22.514 --> 0:41:24.674
<v Speaker 5>what I've decided to do. Now I'm going to say,

0:41:24.674 --> 0:41:27.954
<v Speaker 5>what are we doing this weekend? What is our next holiday?

0:41:28.874 --> 0:41:31.194
<v Speaker 5>These are the things the plans that I have. I've

0:41:31.194 --> 0:41:33.234
<v Speaker 5>also decided I'm going to change completely. I'm going to

0:41:33.234 --> 0:41:35.674
<v Speaker 5>stop dying my hair. And I've got all these fans

0:41:35.754 --> 0:41:39.154
<v Speaker 5>and I'm really I'm quite excited for the next years.

0:41:39.194 --> 0:41:42.194
<v Speaker 1>And so I've decided no apps, no.

0:41:42.474 --> 0:41:46.433
<v Speaker 5>Disastrous dickheads who go out with the lads and rock

0:41:46.474 --> 0:41:48.314
<v Speaker 5>on home at six thirty seven in the morning. I

0:41:48.354 --> 0:41:51.434
<v Speaker 5>think that's complete bullshit. I think that would be soul destroying.

0:41:51.874 --> 0:41:53.873
<v Speaker 5>So I'm with you, Cath. I think, keep going on

0:41:53.874 --> 0:41:57.114
<v Speaker 5>your past, smile at everybody. But at my next phase,

0:41:57.794 --> 0:41:59.393
<v Speaker 5>I'm not going to be batting for the team I'm

0:41:59.434 --> 0:42:02.114
<v Speaker 5>batting for now. I'm going to be completely changing my strategy.

0:42:02.354 --> 0:42:03.794
<v Speaker 5>I reckon it's going to go really well.

0:42:03.954 --> 0:42:05.754
<v Speaker 4>That's going to be a popular route. In fact, there's

0:42:05.794 --> 0:42:10.034
<v Speaker 4>this on social media at the moment. There's this voiceover

0:42:10.154 --> 0:42:14.154
<v Speaker 4>that's going around that says, if women don't lower their standards,

0:42:14.394 --> 0:42:17.314
<v Speaker 4>they are going to die alone in their beautiful, the

0:42:17.434 --> 0:42:21.473
<v Speaker 4>beautifully decorated homes with lots of friends, you know, lots

0:42:21.514 --> 0:42:25.314
<v Speaker 4>of support, delicious meals and things that they love. And

0:42:25.354 --> 0:42:27.754
<v Speaker 4>I think that that is how terrible, so true. And

0:42:27.794 --> 0:42:30.794
<v Speaker 4>I don't if she wants to find a you know,

0:42:30.914 --> 0:42:34.234
<v Speaker 4>a heterosexual romance, knock yourself out. But I think that

0:42:34.754 --> 0:42:38.754
<v Speaker 4>the time for looking at the different ways of living.

0:42:38.794 --> 0:42:41.034
<v Speaker 4>I think, come on the heels of a divorce sometimes

0:42:41.434 --> 0:42:44.354
<v Speaker 4>and you know, look at what presents itself to you.

0:42:44.394 --> 0:42:46.154
<v Speaker 4>That's what I sort of mean by turning on your light.

0:42:46.274 --> 0:42:48.434
<v Speaker 4>There might be an opportunity to make a new friend

0:42:48.474 --> 0:42:51.314
<v Speaker 4>and your girlfriend not necessarily sexually, or to try a

0:42:51.354 --> 0:42:54.194
<v Speaker 4>new job, or to you know, maybe it is a romance,

0:42:54.234 --> 0:42:57.913
<v Speaker 4>but there's so many things that can open themselves up

0:42:57.954 --> 0:43:00.514
<v Speaker 4>to us. And it's sort of nice to have a

0:43:00.634 --> 0:43:05.593
<v Speaker 4>new turn it at life having left something that wasn't

0:43:05.634 --> 0:43:07.994
<v Speaker 4>working behind and it doesn't have to be as narrow

0:43:07.994 --> 0:43:08.634
<v Speaker 4>as romance.

0:43:09.234 --> 0:43:11.874
<v Speaker 3>Fall in love with yourself first, Kelly, Yeah, and everything

0:43:11.914 --> 0:43:12.834
<v Speaker 3>will come true.

0:43:12.994 --> 0:43:14.154
<v Speaker 4>Agree, cheers to that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, Okay, Well that is all we have time for today.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, if you have a friend who is also looking

0:43:19.394 --> 0:43:21.393
<v Speaker 2>for love, if you have a friend who is a

0:43:21.434 --> 0:43:23.354
<v Speaker 2>real follower like myself.

0:43:22.954 --> 0:43:25.794
<v Speaker 6>And Sally, share this episode.

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<v Speaker 4>About this spring fling.

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<v Speaker 6>Ye, come on, let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, let's do this.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so as we like to say, see you Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>Until then, stay unfiltered, stay unreasonable, and stay unleashed.

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<v Speaker 6>Bye. Mamma.

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