1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:14,834 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:18,874 --> 00:00:21,913 Speaker 2: From Mamma Mia. Welcome to this Spill, your daily pop 3 00:00:21,954 --> 00:00:24,913 Speaker 2: culture fix. I'm Laura Brodney and I'm Concene Lukitch and 4 00:00:25,074 --> 00:00:26,994 Speaker 2: coming up on the show today, well, it is Golden 5 00:00:27,034 --> 00:00:29,594 Speaker 2: Globes Day, very exciting. We are going to be bringing 6 00:00:29,634 --> 00:00:32,994 Speaker 2: you a full rap of the Red Carpet, the best looks, 7 00:00:32,994 --> 00:00:35,354 Speaker 2: the most surprising looks, the looks that we have a 8 00:00:35,354 --> 00:00:38,354 Speaker 2: few issues with, plus any little bits of drama or 9 00:00:38,434 --> 00:00:40,513 Speaker 2: just some funny moments that have happened on the Red Carpet. 10 00:00:40,833 --> 00:00:43,193 Speaker 2: It is happening as we're sitting here in the studio, 11 00:00:43,314 --> 00:00:45,114 Speaker 2: so a bit of our reporting will be live, so 12 00:00:45,153 --> 00:00:47,513 Speaker 2: stay tuned for that. That'll be a fun time also 13 00:00:47,553 --> 00:00:49,154 Speaker 2: as we jump into all of our best and most 14 00:00:49,153 --> 00:00:50,993 Speaker 2: surprising looks, and make sure you head over to our 15 00:00:51,034 --> 00:00:54,154 Speaker 2: Instagram account, which is the Spill Podcast on Instagram, because 16 00:00:54,154 --> 00:00:56,154 Speaker 2: we're going to put a Carrolsel up of all the 17 00:00:56,194 --> 00:00:58,674 Speaker 2: images that we're talking about here so you can follow along. 18 00:00:58,714 --> 00:01:00,874 Speaker 2: If our descriptions of these gowns aren't up to par, 19 00:01:01,074 --> 00:01:03,234 Speaker 2: you need to actually see the photo, which I highly 20 00:01:03,234 --> 00:01:07,034 Speaker 2: recommend doing. But first, there is one interview that everyone 21 00:01:07,194 --> 00:01:09,474 Speaker 2: was talking about over the weekend. Everyone had an opinion 22 00:01:09,514 --> 00:01:11,834 Speaker 2: on people were very divided about it. So we're going 23 00:01:11,874 --> 00:01:14,114 Speaker 2: to jump into that first before we get into Golden Globes. 24 00:01:14,514 --> 00:01:17,754 Speaker 2: And that is an interview that Jennifer Lawrence gave after 25 00:01:17,914 --> 00:01:20,794 Speaker 2: a recent screening of her movie Die My Love. Have 26 00:01:20,874 --> 00:01:21,274 Speaker 2: you seen this? 27 00:01:21,514 --> 00:01:23,794 Speaker 1: I have seen this video. He's been going all over 28 00:01:23,874 --> 00:01:28,634 Speaker 1: my socials and it's definitely raising a few eyebrows and 29 00:01:28,674 --> 00:01:32,754 Speaker 1: people are super super passionate about their responses. Should we 30 00:01:32,794 --> 00:01:33,554 Speaker 1: listen to it for us? 31 00:01:33,834 --> 00:01:38,674 Speaker 3: Yes? And I lived on the first and sixty seven 32 00:01:38,994 --> 00:01:42,514 Speaker 3: just a video the car for her. Anyway, after I 33 00:01:42,554 --> 00:01:46,834 Speaker 3: had a kid, my dogs became so scary, you know, 34 00:01:47,034 --> 00:01:49,074 Speaker 3: like if my job, my son's like going up to it, 35 00:01:49,154 --> 00:01:51,314 Speaker 3: you know, like and like it's almost like I don't 36 00:01:51,394 --> 00:01:53,994 Speaker 3: recognize dog now, Like I just see them as a 37 00:01:54,194 --> 00:02:00,274 Speaker 3: lad and one of them in bed my own son, 38 00:02:00,834 --> 00:02:01,314 Speaker 3: and that. 39 00:02:01,874 --> 00:02:02,994 Speaker 2: Just want to obliterated. 40 00:02:09,073 --> 00:02:15,594 Speaker 1: I'm your friends there her name, Okay, there's a few 41 00:02:15,674 --> 00:02:21,674 Speaker 1: things here. Basically, she has rehomed her dog to her parents' house, 42 00:02:22,154 --> 00:02:23,954 Speaker 1: So that's the first bit of information that we need 43 00:02:24,034 --> 00:02:27,834 Speaker 1: to think about. This dog is called Princess Pippi, Longstocking, 44 00:02:28,234 --> 00:02:30,994 Speaker 1: great name, great name. It's a Chihuahua. So she re 45 00:02:31,194 --> 00:02:34,874 Speaker 1: homes it to her parents and tells everyone, Yep, I'm 46 00:02:34,914 --> 00:02:37,714 Speaker 1: rehoming this dog because I'm scared it's gonna buy my 47 00:02:37,794 --> 00:02:42,034 Speaker 1: son valid valid. People are furious about that. 48 00:02:42,154 --> 00:02:44,394 Speaker 2: And I also understand why they were asking about the dog, 49 00:02:44,474 --> 00:02:47,233 Speaker 2: because Jennifer Lawrence's dog, Pippy, who she called her daughter 50 00:02:47,314 --> 00:02:49,514 Speaker 2: and her child for many years, was kind of a 51 00:02:49,554 --> 00:02:52,594 Speaker 2: bit of a fixture in her celebrity world. She would 52 00:02:52,634 --> 00:02:54,514 Speaker 2: bring her up in interviews like I think she's been 53 00:02:54,554 --> 00:02:57,434 Speaker 2: mentioned or photographed and like Vogue and Vanity Fair, and 54 00:02:57,634 --> 00:03:00,154 Speaker 2: she's a celebrity doction and a regular dog, and she 55 00:03:00,234 --> 00:03:02,994 Speaker 2: would always be pictured like carrying her through the streets 56 00:03:03,034 --> 00:03:05,274 Speaker 2: and holding on to her. The only time I've ever 57 00:03:05,314 --> 00:03:08,874 Speaker 2: seen Jennifer Lawrence get really at a paparazzi is when 58 00:03:08,874 --> 00:03:11,034 Speaker 2: she was coming out of an airport, I think, holding Pippy, 59 00:03:11,434 --> 00:03:13,994 Speaker 2: and the paparazzi leaned over. I don't think he was 60 00:03:14,034 --> 00:03:15,714 Speaker 2: going to pat her, but he kind of was asking 61 00:03:15,754 --> 00:03:18,233 Speaker 2: about the dog, and she got so angry. She turned around. 62 00:03:18,274 --> 00:03:20,474 Speaker 2: She's like, do you touch my fucking dog? And also, 63 00:03:20,674 --> 00:03:22,394 Speaker 2: if you remember, this is a Niche story. She was 64 00:03:22,434 --> 00:03:24,674 Speaker 2: on a flight that had engine failure and it started 65 00:03:24,714 --> 00:03:27,754 Speaker 2: to go down, and afterwards she was talking about the 66 00:03:27,794 --> 00:03:29,594 Speaker 2: fact that she had Pippy on her lap that the 67 00:03:29,674 --> 00:03:31,874 Speaker 2: thing she was most worried about was the fact that 68 00:03:31,954 --> 00:03:33,394 Speaker 2: she had taken pick because she's like, I knew I 69 00:03:33,434 --> 00:03:35,234 Speaker 2: was going to die. The plane was going down. We 70 00:03:35,354 --> 00:03:36,914 Speaker 2: heard the second engine go out, and I was like, 71 00:03:36,994 --> 00:03:38,834 Speaker 2: that's it. And the whole time she was like, I 72 00:03:38,914 --> 00:03:41,114 Speaker 2: feel so bad because Pippy didn't choose to come on 73 00:03:41,194 --> 00:03:43,514 Speaker 2: this flight. I brought her with me and she trusts 74 00:03:43,554 --> 00:03:45,554 Speaker 2: me to look after her, and now I've put her 75 00:03:45,594 --> 00:03:47,954 Speaker 2: in danger and we're going to die together. So Pippy 76 00:03:48,114 --> 00:03:50,794 Speaker 2: was kind of like her person through all her early 77 00:03:50,914 --> 00:03:52,754 Speaker 2: years of fame. So I think that's why people are 78 00:03:52,834 --> 00:03:55,994 Speaker 2: really invested. And while she's on stage being asked about 79 00:03:55,994 --> 00:03:57,914 Speaker 2: this huge movie that she's in that's kind of been 80 00:03:57,954 --> 00:03:59,874 Speaker 2: on the awards circuit, that that's the thing people wanted 81 00:03:59,914 --> 00:04:00,394 Speaker 2: to know about. 82 00:04:00,874 --> 00:04:03,434 Speaker 1: Yeah, And the thing is people are basically upset saying, 83 00:04:03,474 --> 00:04:05,554 Speaker 1: you know, dogs are for live, you shouldn't be giving 84 00:04:05,554 --> 00:04:05,794 Speaker 1: it up. 85 00:04:05,834 --> 00:04:06,514 Speaker 2: That poor dog. 86 00:04:06,594 --> 00:04:09,714 Speaker 1: That poor dog, however, and I don't know if I'm 87 00:04:09,754 --> 00:04:12,274 Speaker 1: going to get hate for this. But my view is 88 00:04:12,954 --> 00:04:16,434 Speaker 1: she did the responsible thing and re honed the dog 89 00:04:16,594 --> 00:04:19,234 Speaker 1: with her parents. It's not like it's some random person 90 00:04:19,354 --> 00:04:23,794 Speaker 1: she doesn't know. And also, when you have children having 91 00:04:23,834 --> 00:04:27,274 Speaker 1: an animal in the house, a dog, there is a risk. 92 00:04:27,393 --> 00:04:30,594 Speaker 1: No matter how well trained, how wonderful your dog is, 93 00:04:30,873 --> 00:04:34,394 Speaker 1: there is a risk with small children. Small children they 94 00:04:34,433 --> 00:04:38,034 Speaker 1: don't understand the boundaries of animals, so you have to 95 00:04:38,113 --> 00:04:39,754 Speaker 1: watch them all the time. And the fact that a 96 00:04:39,834 --> 00:04:42,834 Speaker 1: dog bit her child, she's defending her child, which I 97 00:04:42,873 --> 00:04:44,833 Speaker 1: think is the right thing to do. So until your 98 00:04:44,914 --> 00:04:47,674 Speaker 1: children are potentially old enough to understand how to interact 99 00:04:47,714 --> 00:04:52,154 Speaker 1: with animals and not provoke them, because even the nicest 100 00:04:52,154 --> 00:04:55,073 Speaker 1: animal can bite, then I think it is a responsible 101 00:04:55,113 --> 00:04:56,834 Speaker 1: thing to do. And it's not like she dumped it 102 00:04:56,873 --> 00:04:57,993 Speaker 1: on the side of the street. 103 00:04:58,794 --> 00:05:01,674 Speaker 2: Yeah, the response was very big and intense, and I 104 00:05:01,914 --> 00:05:03,874 Speaker 2: kind of almost think did she think that? Because she 105 00:05:04,154 --> 00:05:06,514 Speaker 2: does pause a bit before she answers the question, One 106 00:05:06,594 --> 00:05:08,593 Speaker 2: because I think she wasn't expecting it in a film 107 00:05:09,034 --> 00:05:10,954 Speaker 2: Q and A, and two because I think she was 108 00:05:11,034 --> 00:05:13,074 Speaker 2: kind of like, oh, do I tell the truth and 109 00:05:13,193 --> 00:05:14,914 Speaker 2: I know there's going to be headlines for this, or 110 00:05:14,953 --> 00:05:17,313 Speaker 2: do I brush it aside, and people have been really 111 00:05:17,393 --> 00:05:19,873 Speaker 2: angry because then it's gone into this thing of Jennifer 112 00:05:19,953 --> 00:05:22,354 Speaker 2: Lawrence as saying dogs are unsafe to be around children, 113 00:05:22,834 --> 00:05:25,394 Speaker 2: or people are saying that she's a bad person. Some 114 00:05:25,513 --> 00:05:27,713 Speaker 2: people are even saying she's a bad mother because she's 115 00:05:27,753 --> 00:05:29,954 Speaker 2: not teaching her child how to interact with dogs and 116 00:05:29,953 --> 00:05:32,314 Speaker 2: all these sorts of things. Obviously, the other side of 117 00:05:32,354 --> 00:05:34,834 Speaker 2: it there is people who are like very understanding and 118 00:05:34,914 --> 00:05:37,073 Speaker 2: being like I did the same thing. I totally understand, 119 00:05:37,354 --> 00:05:40,833 Speaker 2: but as normal, the angry voices are the loud ones, absolutely, 120 00:05:40,993 --> 00:05:42,993 Speaker 2: And my thought with that too is like we just 121 00:05:43,113 --> 00:05:45,634 Speaker 2: can't let people say anything at the moment. And I 122 00:05:45,714 --> 00:05:47,553 Speaker 2: don't mean that to say like when people use that 123 00:05:47,553 --> 00:05:50,553 Speaker 2: an excuse to say horrible things that other people to say, 124 00:05:50,594 --> 00:05:53,113 Speaker 2: like racist, sexist, homophobic stuff. I don't mean that like 125 00:05:53,193 --> 00:05:54,954 Speaker 2: an old white comedian being like no one can be 126 00:05:54,993 --> 00:05:57,993 Speaker 2: funny anymore. I mean as like human beings just trying 127 00:05:58,034 --> 00:06:00,074 Speaker 2: to share a little part of their life in terms 128 00:06:00,113 --> 00:06:02,593 Speaker 2: of like she was, you know, a new mom, she's 129 00:06:02,594 --> 00:06:06,113 Speaker 2: an unfamiliar environment. She's trying to say, honestly what she did. 130 00:06:06,714 --> 00:06:08,393 Speaker 2: This is what we get angry at celebrities. When they 131 00:06:08,393 --> 00:06:12,153 Speaker 2: give these nothing answers and they give these flowery magazine profiles, 132 00:06:12,274 --> 00:06:14,154 Speaker 2: or they refuse to answer anything, or they had their 133 00:06:14,193 --> 00:06:17,113 Speaker 2: publicists tell journalists they can't ask one question. I have 134 00:06:17,154 --> 00:06:20,034 Speaker 2: to have all the questions preapproved. It's filtering out any 135 00:06:20,113 --> 00:06:23,674 Speaker 2: kind of real conversation. And I'm assuming that she's seeing 136 00:06:23,674 --> 00:06:25,074 Speaker 2: because I do think she even though she doesn't have 137 00:06:25,234 --> 00:06:27,914 Speaker 2: social media, Jennifer Laurence seems to be quite online. Well, 138 00:06:27,953 --> 00:06:29,834 Speaker 2: we know she has a secret TikTok account where she 139 00:06:29,873 --> 00:06:31,714 Speaker 2: gets into flights with people, but we don't know the 140 00:06:31,794 --> 00:06:33,874 Speaker 2: name of that. But I'm sure because she's so on 141 00:06:33,993 --> 00:06:36,753 Speaker 2: TikTok that she's seen the backlash and she's probably thinking, 142 00:06:36,834 --> 00:06:38,194 Speaker 2: like Jesus Christ. So I was just trying to give 143 00:06:38,193 --> 00:06:40,034 Speaker 2: it an honest answer to a question that I'm sure 144 00:06:40,073 --> 00:06:41,874 Speaker 2: a lot of mums have gone through. And now I'll 145 00:06:41,914 --> 00:06:42,833 Speaker 2: never say another thing again. 146 00:06:42,993 --> 00:06:44,553 Speaker 1: Yeah, And the thing is is what when she says 147 00:06:44,714 --> 00:06:46,354 Speaker 1: I need to kill every dog this. I saw people 148 00:06:46,354 --> 00:06:48,034 Speaker 1: in the comments being like, I can't believe she said that. 149 00:06:48,073 --> 00:06:51,553 Speaker 1: I was like, she's being hyperbolic. Yeah, it's a joke. 150 00:06:51,993 --> 00:06:55,474 Speaker 2: She was talking about that intense like motherhood thing that 151 00:06:55,674 --> 00:06:58,993 Speaker 2: you have like all of a sudden, like one dog 152 00:06:59,073 --> 00:07:00,754 Speaker 2: bit her child, and we don't know which child. So 153 00:07:00,794 --> 00:07:02,834 Speaker 2: she's got two with her husband, Cook Maroney. I think 154 00:07:02,914 --> 00:07:05,194 Speaker 2: sy her oldest child is a son about two, and 155 00:07:05,274 --> 00:07:08,113 Speaker 2: then they've got another baby who they haven't released his name. 156 00:07:08,393 --> 00:07:10,833 Speaker 2: He was assuming it was Yeah, and they haven't released 157 00:07:10,874 --> 00:07:12,514 Speaker 2: his name, so I'm assuming it was Ci that she 158 00:07:12,634 --> 00:07:14,834 Speaker 2: was talking about her older son. And I don't even 159 00:07:14,874 --> 00:07:16,874 Speaker 2: think she said Pippy. I think people have said, like, oh, 160 00:07:16,914 --> 00:07:18,834 Speaker 2: Pippy bit him, but she just said, my son got 161 00:07:18,874 --> 00:07:20,914 Speaker 2: bit by a dog, could bit any dog. And then 162 00:07:20,914 --> 00:07:23,473 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, she just had this like protective rage. 163 00:07:23,994 --> 00:07:25,474 Speaker 2: But I'm gonna go in a limon and say, Jennifer 164 00:07:25,514 --> 00:07:29,074 Speaker 2: Lawrence didn't go on a dog killingsbury duh. As far 165 00:07:29,154 --> 00:07:30,274 Speaker 2: as we know, I don't know if she does no 166 00:07:30,354 --> 00:07:31,834 Speaker 2: free time. I don't know what she gets up to, 167 00:07:32,074 --> 00:07:33,794 Speaker 2: but that's not public knowledge. Yeah. 168 00:07:33,914 --> 00:07:35,554 Speaker 1: Look, I just think we just need to sort of 169 00:07:35,594 --> 00:07:37,874 Speaker 1: take it down and not I love animals, and I 170 00:07:38,034 --> 00:07:42,074 Speaker 1: do not condone people just dumping their dogs in shelters 171 00:07:42,554 --> 00:07:43,634 Speaker 1: when they've had enough. 172 00:07:43,834 --> 00:07:46,994 Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, that is so wrong. No one is saying 173 00:07:47,034 --> 00:07:50,234 Speaker 2: that that's giving the dog to your parents. Yes, as 174 00:07:50,274 --> 00:07:52,034 Speaker 2: far as we know, I think she's from Kentucky. Her 175 00:07:52,114 --> 00:07:53,914 Speaker 2: parents have like a property, at least I have some land. 176 00:07:53,953 --> 00:07:55,314 Speaker 2: Because she was all the other things she was saying 177 00:07:55,434 --> 00:07:57,114 Speaker 2: is like, we live in New York City and every 178 00:07:57,154 --> 00:08:00,074 Speaker 2: time she walks outside the pat pictures of her come 179 00:08:00,154 --> 00:08:02,793 Speaker 2: out every single day and she is literally just walking 180 00:08:02,874 --> 00:08:04,874 Speaker 2: down the street. So I think every time she leaves 181 00:08:04,914 --> 00:08:07,514 Speaker 2: the house, she's in the city and she's getting warmed 182 00:08:07,594 --> 00:08:09,714 Speaker 2: by paparazzi. That's a lot for a little cho hour 183 00:08:10,074 --> 00:08:12,594 Speaker 2: it is, it's probably having a lovely time in Kentucky 184 00:08:12,594 --> 00:08:13,274 Speaker 2: at a parents' house. 185 00:08:13,314 --> 00:08:14,474 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, I think it's pretty 186 00:08:14,474 --> 00:08:20,114 Speaker 1: clear Jennifer Lawrence is not promoting animal cruelty. Bana n Well, 187 00:08:20,314 --> 00:08:22,913 Speaker 1: speaking of Jennifer Lawrence, it is the Golden Globes today, 188 00:08:22,953 --> 00:08:25,474 Speaker 1: and we're very excited it's going on right now. But 189 00:08:25,594 --> 00:08:29,154 Speaker 1: Jennifer Lawrence looks divine on the carpet. 190 00:08:29,714 --> 00:08:33,353 Speaker 2: Yes, from controversy to being potentially the best dressed person 191 00:08:33,474 --> 00:08:36,074 Speaker 2: on the red carpet. I was blown away by this 192 00:08:36,274 --> 00:08:38,634 Speaker 2: because I will preface by saying it's been a slightly 193 00:08:39,434 --> 00:08:41,794 Speaker 2: what we've seen so far, and as you said, the 194 00:08:41,994 --> 00:08:44,114 Speaker 2: pictures are still coming in from the red carpet. It's 195 00:08:44,154 --> 00:08:46,594 Speaker 2: still happening. We'll be doing any more kind of like 196 00:08:46,714 --> 00:08:50,034 Speaker 2: scandalous stories and like bits from the ceremony onto tomorrow's episode. 197 00:08:50,034 --> 00:08:52,074 Speaker 2: So if you don't hear something today, don't worry. It's coming. 198 00:08:52,394 --> 00:08:55,874 Speaker 2: But Jennifer Lawrence is wearing customs Yvanci and it's this 199 00:08:56,234 --> 00:09:00,274 Speaker 2: beautiful floral sheer and I know everyon's saying the naked 200 00:09:00,314 --> 00:09:02,514 Speaker 2: dress is over, and yes, the naked dress is definitely 201 00:09:02,674 --> 00:09:04,874 Speaker 2: over in a way, but this isn't even that, because 202 00:09:04,914 --> 00:09:09,554 Speaker 2: it's this beautiful sheer dress, this gorgeous floral embroidery on it, 203 00:09:09,874 --> 00:09:13,074 Speaker 2: and she's just got her hair like beautiful blonde sort 204 00:09:13,074 --> 00:09:15,594 Speaker 2: of flowing over her shoulders, very loose and like a 205 00:09:15,714 --> 00:09:18,914 Speaker 2: saturn wrap with the same floral embroidery across it. 206 00:09:19,194 --> 00:09:21,634 Speaker 1: It is so gorgeous. Now I saw it's you. Is 207 00:09:21,674 --> 00:09:22,154 Speaker 1: it Dior? 208 00:09:22,434 --> 00:09:25,834 Speaker 2: Is it tagspt? Maybe they're incorrect. 209 00:09:25,874 --> 00:09:30,794 Speaker 1: The mus are saying door, Oh my gosh, it makes. 210 00:09:30,914 --> 00:09:32,594 Speaker 2: Friends because she's one of the faces of deal, it 211 00:09:32,674 --> 00:09:34,154 Speaker 2: makes more sense to be Dior. 212 00:09:34,274 --> 00:09:37,114 Speaker 1: But I'm not shandle I can't confirm or deny. 213 00:09:36,994 --> 00:09:39,434 Speaker 2: That which looks great either, way. We're not a fashion podcast, 214 00:09:39,514 --> 00:09:43,234 Speaker 2: so that's fine. If you're coming here for fashion, look, 215 00:09:43,794 --> 00:09:46,034 Speaker 2: you have to look somewhere else. But the reason I 216 00:09:46,154 --> 00:09:48,474 Speaker 2: love this is quite different for her. I don't think 217 00:09:48,514 --> 00:09:50,434 Speaker 2: I've seen her in a lot of this sort. 218 00:09:50,314 --> 00:09:54,994 Speaker 1: Of floral embroidery before. And I really like the fringe. 219 00:09:55,794 --> 00:09:58,594 Speaker 1: I really like the fringe, and I really like the 220 00:09:58,754 --> 00:10:03,354 Speaker 1: makeup is very muted and pretty. It's a very pretty. 221 00:10:03,114 --> 00:10:05,994 Speaker 2: Look, yes, pretty without being kind of like cutesy with 222 00:10:06,074 --> 00:10:08,634 Speaker 2: the floral. And she she does love a sheer moment recently, 223 00:10:08,754 --> 00:10:11,274 Speaker 2: like at the Vanity Fair after party for the last 224 00:10:11,354 --> 00:10:14,474 Speaker 2: Oscars she wore that kind of more formal gown on stage, 225 00:10:14,594 --> 00:10:17,634 Speaker 2: but then afterwards she wore that sheer dress with the 226 00:10:17,754 --> 00:10:20,674 Speaker 2: kind of grainny panty underwear underneath, which again a very 227 00:10:20,714 --> 00:10:22,794 Speaker 2: overdone red carpet trend, but something like the way she 228 00:10:22,914 --> 00:10:25,074 Speaker 2: does it makes it seem a little bit classier. So 229 00:10:25,274 --> 00:10:27,634 Speaker 2: she's one of my first picks for best on Ground. Yeah, 230 00:10:27,674 --> 00:10:31,034 Speaker 2: coming in strong anyone else that you're loving or hating. Indeed, 231 00:10:31,074 --> 00:10:32,434 Speaker 2: we can hate the dress and not the woman. 232 00:10:32,594 --> 00:10:36,994 Speaker 1: Okay, so I absolutely loved Britney Snow's outfit. Now she 233 00:10:37,274 --> 00:10:40,034 Speaker 1: was one of the first to arrive on the carpet. Clever, 234 00:10:40,674 --> 00:10:43,594 Speaker 1: very clever. We were talking off air that the best 235 00:10:43,634 --> 00:10:45,394 Speaker 1: thing to do is if you're not a major, major, 236 00:10:45,474 --> 00:10:47,634 Speaker 1: a list star, like a Jennifer Lawrence, you need to 237 00:10:47,634 --> 00:10:50,594 Speaker 1: show up early because otherwise no one will see your pictures. 238 00:10:50,714 --> 00:10:52,474 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you do get a rival time. So like, 239 00:10:52,594 --> 00:10:55,394 Speaker 2: if you're kind of the lower of the pecking order, 240 00:10:55,434 --> 00:10:57,794 Speaker 2: you have to come earlier. But I would be not 241 00:10:57,874 --> 00:10:59,994 Speaker 2: that Britney Stow isn't a big star, but obviously when 242 00:11:00,034 --> 00:11:01,794 Speaker 2: you look at some of the megastars out of there, 243 00:11:02,234 --> 00:11:04,434 Speaker 2: it was really smart of her to like be on 244 00:11:04,594 --> 00:11:06,954 Speaker 2: the carpet early because she was the first one who 245 00:11:07,234 --> 00:11:11,314 Speaker 2: saw every outlet blasting her picture and videos across all 246 00:11:11,394 --> 00:11:14,194 Speaker 2: of their different platforms. The race in the morning for 247 00:11:14,314 --> 00:11:16,314 Speaker 2: me to do the first platform to have something up 248 00:11:16,434 --> 00:11:16,834 Speaker 2: is huge. 249 00:11:17,274 --> 00:11:19,114 Speaker 1: You should have seen the office this morning. I should 250 00:11:19,114 --> 00:11:21,314 Speaker 1: have recorded it because it was like refreshmer. 251 00:11:22,834 --> 00:11:23,514 Speaker 2: An Award showed it. 252 00:11:23,754 --> 00:11:26,794 Speaker 1: It's very intense. So Britney Snow is wearing Daniel Frankele. 253 00:11:26,834 --> 00:11:29,754 Speaker 1: It's this white strapless gown which was quite sort of 254 00:11:29,834 --> 00:11:32,674 Speaker 1: greci and she's got this beautiful little bits coming out 255 00:11:32,714 --> 00:11:35,154 Speaker 1: on her hair. Hairs up. But the reason I loved 256 00:11:35,154 --> 00:11:38,194 Speaker 1: it so much is had this crinoline hem. So the 257 00:11:38,314 --> 00:11:41,314 Speaker 1: hem was like this really stiff fabric. If you don't 258 00:11:41,314 --> 00:11:43,674 Speaker 1: know what crinoline is, it's kind of like horse netting 259 00:11:43,834 --> 00:11:46,234 Speaker 1: kind of fabric. It makes it really stiff. So when 260 00:11:46,274 --> 00:11:48,514 Speaker 1: she turned it was like a little bell. I just 261 00:11:48,554 --> 00:11:50,834 Speaker 1: thought it was so pretty and it just moved really well. 262 00:11:51,074 --> 00:11:55,594 Speaker 1: It looked gorgeous. She looked very angelic, and she's all 263 00:11:55,634 --> 00:11:56,954 Speaker 1: over all of the outlets. 264 00:11:57,274 --> 00:12:00,474 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So here's something that I have question marks 265 00:12:00,514 --> 00:12:03,953 Speaker 2: over where love the actress unsure of the dress. The 266 00:12:04,034 --> 00:12:07,314 Speaker 2: first one is Chase Suwey wonders who I love, And 267 00:12:07,834 --> 00:12:10,194 Speaker 2: just because she's such a kind of et girl, I 268 00:12:10,234 --> 00:12:12,554 Speaker 2: don't know. I was expecting something maybe a little bit 269 00:12:12,674 --> 00:12:15,833 Speaker 2: more surprising or avant garde or something. But when I 270 00:12:15,874 --> 00:12:17,833 Speaker 2: saw her dress, it's a great It's nothing again, nothing 271 00:12:17,874 --> 00:12:19,794 Speaker 2: wrong with it. No one looks bad. It's maybe that's 272 00:12:19,834 --> 00:12:21,634 Speaker 2: the thing that's wrong. No one looks bad on red 273 00:12:21,674 --> 00:12:24,314 Speaker 2: carpets anymore, because they're all style with an inch of 274 00:12:24,354 --> 00:12:27,554 Speaker 2: their lives that sometimes they get any kind of individuality 275 00:12:27,674 --> 00:12:29,794 Speaker 2: beaten out of them, and it's just this sea of 276 00:12:29,914 --> 00:12:33,514 Speaker 2: perfect column dresses and perfect slick back buttons. So Chase 277 00:12:33,514 --> 00:12:35,953 Speaker 2: to me, Wonders has just a green strapless dress on. 278 00:12:36,074 --> 00:12:38,114 Speaker 2: It's lovely. She's got a hair pullback, she got a 279 00:12:38,154 --> 00:12:40,794 Speaker 2: little diamond choker. It did look nice or in the video, 280 00:12:40,834 --> 00:12:42,434 Speaker 2: as most dresses do, but when I saw it, it 281 00:12:42,514 --> 00:12:44,474 Speaker 2: just kind of looked like a high school grad dress 282 00:12:44,594 --> 00:12:46,594 Speaker 2: or a prom dress. And I thought, if you're like 283 00:12:46,754 --> 00:12:48,754 Speaker 2: the one of the youngest, hottest stars at the moment, 284 00:12:49,274 --> 00:12:51,034 Speaker 2: and maybe that's her style, but I've seen her wear 285 00:12:51,114 --> 00:12:53,474 Speaker 2: better things. I was just a little bit like, this 286 00:12:53,674 --> 00:12:56,474 Speaker 2: is your moment to really shine and not wear something 287 00:12:56,514 --> 00:12:58,714 Speaker 2: that looks like a tenth grade formal dress. 288 00:12:58,994 --> 00:13:01,434 Speaker 1: Yeah, there have been a lot of very very bright 289 00:13:01,594 --> 00:13:03,714 Speaker 1: colors on the carpet, which I do love that, which 290 00:13:03,794 --> 00:13:06,154 Speaker 1: is nice. So like in that sort of similar green 291 00:13:06,314 --> 00:13:09,434 Speaker 1: Rose bern is wearing almost an exact replica of Kia 292 00:13:09,474 --> 00:13:12,953 Speaker 1: Knightley's Atonement dress. It's a Chanelle gown. Really pretty. I 293 00:13:13,154 --> 00:13:14,754 Speaker 1: like that a lot, but I do like the pops 294 00:13:14,794 --> 00:13:18,074 Speaker 1: of color. However, it can be interesting as well. 295 00:13:18,314 --> 00:13:21,034 Speaker 2: Well, that's these burns dress is it looks a little 296 00:13:21,034 --> 00:13:22,994 Speaker 2: bit more. I don't know, there's something that's cheek her 297 00:13:23,034 --> 00:13:25,154 Speaker 2: about it. Just maybe it's the cart or maybe it's 298 00:13:25,154 --> 00:13:27,394 Speaker 2: the way she's got to hit as a child. Yeah, 299 00:13:27,474 --> 00:13:29,434 Speaker 2: but also sometimes Chanelle can look down on a red 300 00:13:29,474 --> 00:13:31,754 Speaker 2: carpet when start on the wrong person. Like a lot 301 00:13:31,794 --> 00:13:33,754 Speaker 2: of people Margot Robbie have learned that the hard way, 302 00:13:34,114 --> 00:13:36,274 Speaker 2: that it can go wrong. But that looks quite she 303 00:13:36,314 --> 00:13:38,474 Speaker 2: looks stunning. Yeah, it doesn't look like a formal dress. 304 00:13:38,874 --> 00:13:41,514 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's basically a replica of the Atonement dress, and 305 00:13:41,554 --> 00:13:43,953 Speaker 1: it's one of my favorite movie looks about it. 306 00:13:44,194 --> 00:13:46,794 Speaker 2: Yeah, which many people have tried to recreate that Atonement looking. 307 00:13:46,874 --> 00:13:48,914 Speaker 2: You just no one's really captured it in the way 308 00:13:48,954 --> 00:13:50,834 Speaker 2: it comes across in the movie. She's one of those dresses. 309 00:13:50,914 --> 00:13:52,474 Speaker 2: It's like, it's like when everyone tries to where they 310 00:13:52,514 --> 00:13:54,514 Speaker 2: have to lose a guy in ten days, and it 311 00:13:54,634 --> 00:13:56,833 Speaker 2: just it just looks like nothing on anyone else on 312 00:13:56,874 --> 00:13:59,194 Speaker 2: a red carpet. It's only that moment of Kate Hudson 313 00:13:59,234 --> 00:14:01,674 Speaker 2: in the movie. Speaking of movie stars who I love 314 00:14:01,714 --> 00:14:06,594 Speaker 2: and adore, I was quite unsure on Alicia Silverstone's dress. Again, 315 00:14:06,674 --> 00:14:09,154 Speaker 2: it's that kind of I love the red on her. 316 00:14:09,354 --> 00:14:11,434 Speaker 1: I do like red on her. It's again very clueless, 317 00:14:11,434 --> 00:14:12,394 Speaker 1: a bit of a clueless throat. 318 00:14:12,794 --> 00:14:16,713 Speaker 2: I love any times she wears ready color. Everyone's like, 319 00:14:16,874 --> 00:14:19,434 Speaker 2: it's she it's a clueless brow bag. Like I know 320 00:14:19,474 --> 00:14:21,314 Speaker 2: what you're saying, because I saw those pictures this morning too, 321 00:14:21,474 --> 00:14:23,954 Speaker 2: and it's such obviously and clueless. She wears the little 322 00:14:23,954 --> 00:14:25,834 Speaker 2: red mini dress and it's the one where she gets 323 00:14:26,514 --> 00:14:28,434 Speaker 2: and she gets mugged in it, and it's one of 324 00:14:28,514 --> 00:14:31,354 Speaker 2: the best movie moments of all time. She's literally just 325 00:14:31,394 --> 00:14:33,434 Speaker 2: throwing a red dress here. Yeah, but still it's fine. 326 00:14:33,554 --> 00:14:34,754 Speaker 1: Just let me live, Okay, Laura. 327 00:14:35,514 --> 00:14:37,354 Speaker 2: I was on board with it too, and I almost 328 00:14:37,394 --> 00:14:39,234 Speaker 2: like give her a pass just because of that. But 329 00:14:39,314 --> 00:14:42,514 Speaker 2: I guess it's that very safe, classic Hollywood like waves 330 00:14:42,554 --> 00:14:46,674 Speaker 2: to the side, diamond choker, strapless red dress. Some people 331 00:14:46,754 --> 00:14:49,194 Speaker 2: don't love the rousing how it's coming up over her hips. 332 00:14:49,314 --> 00:14:50,034 Speaker 2: I don't mind that. 333 00:14:50,154 --> 00:14:53,674 Speaker 1: I don't like the draping from the center as much. Again, 334 00:14:53,754 --> 00:14:54,994 Speaker 1: she does look really beautiful. 335 00:14:55,114 --> 00:14:57,594 Speaker 2: She looks so I'm just always so happy to see 336 00:14:57,634 --> 00:15:00,794 Speaker 2: Alicia Silverstone. I almost don't care what she's wearing. Yeah, 337 00:15:00,994 --> 00:15:03,354 Speaker 2: but I do love that being scherer from clueless gets 338 00:15:03,394 --> 00:15:05,034 Speaker 2: her a pass on every red carpet for the rest 339 00:15:05,074 --> 00:15:06,114 Speaker 2: of her life as it should. 340 00:15:06,234 --> 00:15:08,714 Speaker 1: Okay, so my next this one is a bit more niche, 341 00:15:09,074 --> 00:15:10,914 Speaker 1: but I really have to talk about it because there 342 00:15:10,954 --> 00:15:13,474 Speaker 1: is a story behind it that is just really taking 343 00:15:13,554 --> 00:15:15,114 Speaker 1: up a lot of my brain space. 344 00:15:15,274 --> 00:15:18,274 Speaker 2: Yea, Hailey Bailey, Hailey Bailey, Okay. 345 00:15:18,114 --> 00:15:21,994 Speaker 1: The influencer TikToker. She kind of went pretty viral at 346 00:15:22,034 --> 00:15:23,754 Speaker 1: the met Gala one year for doing a murray and 347 00:15:23,834 --> 00:15:27,434 Speaker 1: toinette sound the meat cake but let the meat cake. 348 00:15:27,594 --> 00:15:29,314 Speaker 1: People got really upset at her. Anyway, she was there, 349 00:15:29,354 --> 00:15:32,714 Speaker 1: she was doing interviews, some interviews with celebs and stuff. Now, 350 00:15:32,754 --> 00:15:35,234 Speaker 1: she was wearing a purple gown that it has been 351 00:15:35,314 --> 00:15:36,754 Speaker 1: quite divisive. 352 00:15:36,834 --> 00:15:38,634 Speaker 2: But that's why she wore it, right, That's her whole 353 00:15:38,674 --> 00:15:41,234 Speaker 2: bread and butter is having those viral moments at award 354 00:15:41,274 --> 00:15:43,914 Speaker 2: shows because she does interviews right. But also, and I 355 00:15:44,074 --> 00:15:45,994 Speaker 2: know she's allowed in the room, but often a lot 356 00:15:46,034 --> 00:15:47,994 Speaker 2: of her content is her standing off to the side 357 00:15:48,394 --> 00:15:50,754 Speaker 2: as celebrities walk in. She calls out things to them 358 00:15:50,834 --> 00:15:51,554 Speaker 2: like nice things, I. 359 00:15:51,594 --> 00:15:54,594 Speaker 1: Love you basically, that's what she says to everything everyone. Now, 360 00:15:54,914 --> 00:15:56,634 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be a hater, but it's not 361 00:15:56,794 --> 00:15:59,554 Speaker 1: a great dress. It's not a great dress. It is 362 00:15:59,754 --> 00:16:05,954 Speaker 1: very maleficenty. It looks like very eighties promie. It's purple. 363 00:16:07,114 --> 00:16:10,834 Speaker 1: I do Instagram page. She posted something with Hudson from 364 00:16:10,914 --> 00:16:14,994 Speaker 1: Hated Rivalry and she changed she's in a red dress. 365 00:16:15,034 --> 00:16:17,194 Speaker 2: Now, Oh, she's pulling a Zendea at the makeup. 366 00:16:17,274 --> 00:16:19,354 Speaker 1: So I was really confusing. And then I went and 367 00:16:19,634 --> 00:16:22,234 Speaker 1: was looking more stories, looking up more stories on her, 368 00:16:22,554 --> 00:16:25,514 Speaker 1: and came across she's divorcing her husband. 369 00:16:26,114 --> 00:16:28,154 Speaker 2: Yeah. I was gonna say, this is the only thing 370 00:16:28,194 --> 00:16:29,274 Speaker 2: I know about Haley Bailey. 371 00:16:29,594 --> 00:16:33,074 Speaker 1: Her husband is now suing her for seven hundred and 372 00:16:33,114 --> 00:16:36,114 Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars because she said it on a live 373 00:16:36,154 --> 00:16:39,434 Speaker 1: stream that his penis was like three coke cans. 374 00:16:40,154 --> 00:16:42,154 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that is what she's in the news for. 375 00:16:42,194 --> 00:16:43,634 Speaker 2: At the moment, I was thinking that. So I think 376 00:16:43,634 --> 00:16:45,994 Speaker 2: they've been divorced for quite a while. They were Ama 377 00:16:46,034 --> 00:16:49,914 Speaker 2: Cluble divorced. I believe he's remarried, which is maybe yeh 378 00:16:50,154 --> 00:16:52,634 Speaker 2: And yeah, she said that on a podcast. So that's 379 00:16:52,674 --> 00:16:54,354 Speaker 2: the reason I got divorced is his penis was too 380 00:16:54,434 --> 00:16:57,554 Speaker 2: big and he's now sewing her for sharing Pride information. 381 00:16:57,914 --> 00:16:59,874 Speaker 1: This is just from seeing a dress. I knew who 382 00:16:59,914 --> 00:17:02,074 Speaker 1: she was I've seen her content before. She had does 383 00:17:02,194 --> 00:17:04,394 Speaker 1: make quite nice content, But I just went down this 384 00:17:04,554 --> 00:17:06,634 Speaker 1: rabbit hole and I was like, what am I looking 385 00:17:06,674 --> 00:17:07,073 Speaker 1: at right now? 386 00:17:07,394 --> 00:17:07,594 Speaker 2: Yeah? 387 00:17:07,674 --> 00:17:09,553 Speaker 1: Anyway, very entertaining to me, But. 388 00:17:10,033 --> 00:17:11,674 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, good luck to her and that law. 389 00:17:11,754 --> 00:17:13,834 Speaker 2: So all the headlines around that are like, Hailey Bailey 390 00:17:13,914 --> 00:17:17,394 Speaker 2: surprised by husband's lawsuit. I'm like, yeah, I'm sure she is. 391 00:17:17,674 --> 00:17:20,554 Speaker 2: But also the reason she's wearing that crazy over the 392 00:17:20,634 --> 00:17:22,754 Speaker 2: top dress is like, again, that's her bread and butter, 393 00:17:22,794 --> 00:17:24,874 Speaker 2: that's her business. That's the only way she gets like 394 00:17:24,994 --> 00:17:27,154 Speaker 2: big press at these kind of things. If she was 395 00:17:27,234 --> 00:17:29,513 Speaker 2: just wearing a sheet column dress like everyone else with 396 00:17:29,594 --> 00:17:32,314 Speaker 2: the hair pulled back, there's no way she's getting included 397 00:17:32,314 --> 00:17:35,234 Speaker 2: in any of those lists or red carpet roundups. Really, 398 00:17:35,354 --> 00:17:38,194 Speaker 2: you know, not Again you think it's calculated. This is Acula, 399 00:17:38,274 --> 00:17:40,314 Speaker 2: And I think she would say that too, Like she's 400 00:17:40,354 --> 00:17:42,314 Speaker 2: really open about the focus of how she's like built 401 00:17:42,354 --> 00:17:45,274 Speaker 2: her fame and everything. Again, she's got so many followers, 402 00:17:45,314 --> 00:17:47,634 Speaker 2: so it's not like she's not an unknown person. But 403 00:17:47,754 --> 00:17:49,714 Speaker 2: I think if you're going to an award show and 404 00:17:49,794 --> 00:17:52,793 Speaker 2: you're someone who's there to like get content because you're 405 00:17:52,834 --> 00:17:55,154 Speaker 2: not nominated. You're not in TV shows or movies, you're 406 00:17:55,154 --> 00:17:57,794 Speaker 2: not one of the really big interviewers that you have 407 00:17:57,954 --> 00:17:59,754 Speaker 2: to then wear a dress that gets you included in 408 00:17:59,794 --> 00:18:01,394 Speaker 2: all the galleries, which she's done. 409 00:18:01,634 --> 00:18:03,513 Speaker 1: And also there's been a lot of discussion, I know, 410 00:18:03,594 --> 00:18:06,754 Speaker 1: we discussed this sort of last Award season of influences 411 00:18:06,874 --> 00:18:11,754 Speaker 1: now being invited into these more a list Hollywood spaces, 412 00:18:11,834 --> 00:18:15,114 Speaker 1: and there is that sort of transition between being an 413 00:18:15,154 --> 00:18:18,394 Speaker 1: influencer and then there's that next level up of being 414 00:18:19,194 --> 00:18:19,954 Speaker 1: proper famous. 415 00:18:20,434 --> 00:18:22,994 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, and so she's kind of like teetering on 416 00:18:23,114 --> 00:18:26,154 Speaker 2: that line. Is there anyone else that we absolutely loved 417 00:18:26,394 --> 00:18:27,634 Speaker 2: or I've got I've. 418 00:18:27,514 --> 00:18:29,994 Speaker 1: Got more than I love, I really did you love? 419 00:18:30,074 --> 00:18:32,314 Speaker 1: I really like to testa Thompson me too. 420 00:18:32,674 --> 00:18:34,394 Speaker 2: I had to look at it a few times. It's 421 00:18:34,434 --> 00:18:36,234 Speaker 2: also one of those dresses that I did go and 422 00:18:36,314 --> 00:18:39,793 Speaker 2: watch the video the Beautiful, So it's like a very 423 00:18:39,874 --> 00:18:44,834 Speaker 2: kind of like dark green sequence stripless galley beaded Balenciaga, 424 00:18:44,954 --> 00:18:47,234 Speaker 2: and it looks beautiful in the picture, but it wasn't 425 00:18:47,274 --> 00:18:50,794 Speaker 2: until I saw the video of her descending the staircase. Also, 426 00:18:50,914 --> 00:18:53,474 Speaker 2: the Golden Globes has really upstair every carpet situation. 427 00:18:53,554 --> 00:18:55,634 Speaker 1: This the first thing I noticed. I was very excited 428 00:18:55,634 --> 00:18:55,954 Speaker 1: about it. 429 00:18:56,114 --> 00:18:59,394 Speaker 2: But they've got a stairs huge and the stairs are 430 00:18:59,554 --> 00:19:02,514 Speaker 2: proving to be an actual gold mined for the photos 431 00:19:02,954 --> 00:19:05,954 Speaker 2: and also stare a much better backdrop than usual. Is 432 00:19:05,994 --> 00:19:08,314 Speaker 2: that where everyone's dress better this year? Is that why 433 00:19:08,314 --> 00:19:10,273 Speaker 2: everyone's wearing color? Did they all get a heads up 434 00:19:10,314 --> 00:19:12,313 Speaker 2: at the red carpet? It was going to be kind 435 00:19:12,354 --> 00:19:14,474 Speaker 2: of these like muted warm colors this year. It was 436 00:19:14,474 --> 00:19:16,073 Speaker 2: going to be a darker red carpet. They were going 437 00:19:16,154 --> 00:19:19,394 Speaker 2: to be stairs. Everyone's got their stair look prepared. It's 438 00:19:19,434 --> 00:19:21,274 Speaker 2: like it's almost like they're trying to recreate the net 439 00:19:21,354 --> 00:19:22,634 Speaker 2: on a very small scale. 440 00:19:22,714 --> 00:19:25,194 Speaker 1: It's also giving like Venice Film Festival, you know, where 441 00:19:25,354 --> 00:19:28,074 Speaker 1: you can see photographers in the background. So normally what 442 00:19:28,194 --> 00:19:31,114 Speaker 1: you would get is a flat media wall and often 443 00:19:31,194 --> 00:19:33,954 Speaker 1: they can look depending on what the background color is, 444 00:19:34,034 --> 00:19:36,634 Speaker 1: the stylist will know what it is so that the 445 00:19:36,754 --> 00:19:40,434 Speaker 1: dress doesn't clash with said background. But this year, what 446 00:19:40,474 --> 00:19:43,114 Speaker 1: they've done is they've created this very like kind of 447 00:19:43,274 --> 00:19:46,914 Speaker 1: these curtains that are that sort of champagne color, classic 448 00:19:47,034 --> 00:19:51,034 Speaker 1: red carpet. It's very traditional looking, but with the stairs 449 00:19:51,074 --> 00:19:54,514 Speaker 1: at it. It definitely makes it look a lot more grand. 450 00:19:54,514 --> 00:19:56,114 Speaker 2: And I think also last year was the year they 451 00:19:56,154 --> 00:19:59,273 Speaker 2: had so much branding on the media wall. It was 452 00:19:59,314 --> 00:20:00,754 Speaker 2: like giving me a seizure to look at it, so 453 00:20:00,794 --> 00:20:02,554 Speaker 2: I couldn't even see anyone's dress. I mean, that's why 454 00:20:02,554 --> 00:20:05,154 Speaker 2: everyone looks hotter this year, bland but hot, which you 455 00:20:05,194 --> 00:20:07,954 Speaker 2: know is a very staple look in Hollywood. What did 456 00:20:07,994 --> 00:20:11,154 Speaker 2: you think of Ariana Grande in her black custom Vivian 457 00:20:11,234 --> 00:20:14,394 Speaker 2: Westward gown because everyone was kind of really waiting to 458 00:20:14,474 --> 00:20:16,554 Speaker 2: see her as one of the big nominees of the night. 459 00:20:16,874 --> 00:20:19,714 Speaker 2: It's a aning for me, it is, but also all 460 00:20:19,834 --> 00:20:22,714 Speaker 2: her red carpet looks almost except for maybe like her 461 00:20:22,754 --> 00:20:25,434 Speaker 2: Oscars dress and a few The thing is, when she 462 00:20:25,594 --> 00:20:28,754 Speaker 2: was in full Glinda mode on the press tour, she 463 00:20:28,914 --> 00:20:32,674 Speaker 2: was wearing those crazy pink PRINCESSI dresses and so she 464 00:20:32,794 --> 00:20:34,634 Speaker 2: was getting a lot more attention for those, for theme 465 00:20:34,714 --> 00:20:37,874 Speaker 2: dressing and also for being kind of really standing out 466 00:20:37,914 --> 00:20:40,914 Speaker 2: in a red carpet. But since then she's now regressed, 467 00:20:41,034 --> 00:20:43,954 Speaker 2: not regrets, she's now very thoughtfully changed her attacked I 468 00:20:43,954 --> 00:20:46,034 Speaker 2: should say, because she's been very open about this that 469 00:20:46,154 --> 00:20:48,874 Speaker 2: she's trying not to coseplay as Glinda, and she's trying 470 00:20:48,954 --> 00:20:51,833 Speaker 2: to be ariana grande serious actress, and that's why she's 471 00:20:51,874 --> 00:20:52,674 Speaker 2: dyed her hair dark. 472 00:20:52,874 --> 00:20:54,954 Speaker 1: You can see that. You can say it's a beautiful guy. 473 00:20:54,994 --> 00:20:55,634 Speaker 1: She looks stunning. 474 00:20:55,994 --> 00:20:57,714 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of those things where like I look 475 00:20:57,714 --> 00:20:59,074 Speaker 2: at it and I'm like, I know, this is a 476 00:20:59,154 --> 00:21:02,634 Speaker 2: beautifully crafted dress. I know that's been fitted to perfection. 477 00:21:02,914 --> 00:21:06,634 Speaker 2: It's timeless, but at the same time, it is kind 478 00:21:06,634 --> 00:21:10,114 Speaker 2: of like a slightly underwhelming black gown. And after she 479 00:21:10,274 --> 00:21:14,154 Speaker 2: wore like the underwhelming kind of cream column dress I 480 00:21:14,234 --> 00:21:16,434 Speaker 2: think it was the last year's Awards actually, just like 481 00:21:16,514 --> 00:21:19,234 Speaker 2: with the high ponytail, and she's just really muting, muting 482 00:21:19,314 --> 00:21:22,194 Speaker 2: herself so much. I just don't know if it's her style. 483 00:21:22,314 --> 00:21:23,994 Speaker 2: That's what I always thinking, like, is that your style 484 00:21:24,114 --> 00:21:26,154 Speaker 2: or you're just leading up to the Oscars race? Is 485 00:21:26,194 --> 00:21:29,194 Speaker 2: your tax trying to be a very serious actress because 486 00:21:29,234 --> 00:21:31,593 Speaker 2: she's one of the favorites to win Best Supporting Actress. 487 00:21:31,914 --> 00:21:33,874 Speaker 1: As a general rule, I don't like black on a 488 00:21:33,914 --> 00:21:37,034 Speaker 1: red carpet. Yeah, as a general rule, and I love black. 489 00:21:37,034 --> 00:21:39,594 Speaker 2: I love wearing black, but yeah, on a red red 490 00:21:39,634 --> 00:21:42,354 Speaker 2: carpet when it's your The dress has to be so 491 00:21:42,674 --> 00:21:45,394 Speaker 2: so so special because you know who is wearing black 492 00:21:45,434 --> 00:21:47,994 Speaker 2: and who I really did love from this year's Awards 493 00:21:48,074 --> 00:21:50,154 Speaker 2: is Jenna or Tager, who's. 494 00:21:50,034 --> 00:21:52,634 Speaker 1: Wearing that beautiful that's how you wear black. 495 00:21:52,954 --> 00:21:56,594 Speaker 2: It's high necked, it's got these very long tassels down 496 00:21:56,714 --> 00:21:59,594 Speaker 2: either side. It's open on each side, so it's like 497 00:21:59,634 --> 00:22:03,154 Speaker 2: a tie top then going into a black skirt. Very her, 498 00:22:03,714 --> 00:22:05,834 Speaker 2: very just it's showing a lot of skin, but also 499 00:22:05,874 --> 00:22:08,314 Speaker 2: because it's so high necked covered up, it also looks 500 00:22:08,354 --> 00:22:11,314 Speaker 2: really like she can. It's this very gothic glamour that 501 00:22:11,394 --> 00:22:12,394 Speaker 2: she pulls off so well. 502 00:22:12,434 --> 00:22:15,394 Speaker 1: It's got that really gorgeous, strong, strong shoulder that comes 503 00:22:15,474 --> 00:22:18,314 Speaker 1: almost out past her natural shoulders. Yeah, it has a 504 00:22:18,434 --> 00:22:19,634 Speaker 1: very square top and it. 505 00:22:19,674 --> 00:22:22,234 Speaker 2: Looks very show stopping even though it's black. Though, if 506 00:22:22,234 --> 00:22:24,194 Speaker 2: you're just looking at the I saw some of the 507 00:22:24,434 --> 00:22:27,234 Speaker 2: original runway pictures that dress post in her dress, and 508 00:22:27,354 --> 00:22:29,834 Speaker 2: the model in the runway has this like beautiful silver 509 00:22:30,394 --> 00:22:32,314 Speaker 2: head piece, and I was like, oh, maybe she should 510 00:22:32,314 --> 00:22:34,154 Speaker 2: have wont a head piece. Yeah, and that would have 511 00:22:34,274 --> 00:22:36,034 Speaker 2: really I think kicked it over the line. 512 00:22:36,194 --> 00:22:38,794 Speaker 1: Another one that is black but also quite good, So 513 00:22:39,114 --> 00:22:43,594 Speaker 1: I'm going back on my thing here, Tiana Taylor and Scaparelli. Yes, okay, stunning. 514 00:22:43,794 --> 00:22:45,994 Speaker 1: I also just love everything Tayana Taylor airs. I think 515 00:22:46,034 --> 00:22:47,954 Speaker 1: she's one of the best dressed women in Hollywood. 516 00:22:48,274 --> 00:22:51,994 Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's walking and also while she's both in 517 00:22:52,154 --> 00:22:54,754 Speaker 2: the worst rated show of the year with All's Fair 518 00:22:55,154 --> 00:22:57,474 Speaker 2: and in the highest rated movie of the year with 519 00:22:57,594 --> 00:22:59,754 Speaker 2: one battle after another, and she's probably gonna win an 520 00:22:59,794 --> 00:23:02,074 Speaker 2: oscar for the same year that she's in the worst 521 00:23:02,114 --> 00:23:04,354 Speaker 2: TV show ever, and she is walking down the carpet 522 00:23:04,354 --> 00:23:06,194 Speaker 2: with a confidence woman who knows all of that and 523 00:23:06,394 --> 00:23:09,874 Speaker 2: is like, I'm the real winner of this now. 524 00:23:09,994 --> 00:23:12,994 Speaker 1: Another one that I really really enjoyed was Kate Hudson. 525 00:23:13,594 --> 00:23:14,834 Speaker 2: Oh with the silvery gown. 526 00:23:14,954 --> 00:23:17,794 Speaker 1: Yeah. So she's wearing an Armali Prebay gown. It's quite 527 00:23:17,794 --> 00:23:20,474 Speaker 1: a typical silhouette that we see on Kate Hudson. It's 528 00:23:20,594 --> 00:23:22,954 Speaker 1: quite up and down the column dress and it has 529 00:23:23,034 --> 00:23:25,593 Speaker 1: that kind of two thousands neckline. The reason I love 530 00:23:25,674 --> 00:23:28,514 Speaker 1: it so much is it looks like water. The way 531 00:23:28,554 --> 00:23:32,394 Speaker 1: that it's draped is so so beautiful. It's this really 532 00:23:32,554 --> 00:23:36,714 Speaker 1: gorgeous silver, sort of metallicke fabric and the way that 533 00:23:36,794 --> 00:23:39,634 Speaker 1: it drapes down and it joins down the center of 534 00:23:39,674 --> 00:23:42,714 Speaker 1: her body. Both of them drape in together. The way 535 00:23:42,794 --> 00:23:46,754 Speaker 1: that that moves and photographs, I just think looks really stunning. 536 00:23:47,194 --> 00:23:49,914 Speaker 1: So she's actually nominated for song Sung Blue, so you 537 00:23:50,314 --> 00:23:53,354 Speaker 1: expect her to look fabulous. But I wasn't expecting that 538 00:23:53,394 --> 00:23:54,194 Speaker 1: movie to be so good. 539 00:23:55,034 --> 00:23:56,754 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a great movie and she is great 540 00:23:56,794 --> 00:23:58,954 Speaker 2: in it, and it does I mean it's she's kind 541 00:23:58,954 --> 00:24:00,914 Speaker 2: of on the line on the cusp of whether she'll 542 00:24:00,914 --> 00:24:03,914 Speaker 2: be nominated for an Oscar, but it's looking super possible, 543 00:24:04,194 --> 00:24:06,114 Speaker 2: and I do want that for her, mainly so I 544 00:24:06,194 --> 00:24:08,754 Speaker 2: can see her dress. When she was first nominated for 545 00:24:08,754 --> 00:24:11,234 Speaker 2: an Oscar twenty years ago, her dress got absolutely rubbish. 546 00:24:11,234 --> 00:24:13,194 Speaker 2: If anyone hasn't seen it, go look it up. But 547 00:24:13,314 --> 00:24:16,234 Speaker 2: she actually looks amazing, like time was on her side, 548 00:24:16,394 --> 00:24:19,234 Speaker 2: that dresses aged really well, and the haters at the 549 00:24:19,274 --> 00:24:21,314 Speaker 2: time just didn't understand what she was doing. So I'm 550 00:24:21,354 --> 00:24:23,634 Speaker 2: excited to see her on the red carpet. Speaking of 551 00:24:23,914 --> 00:24:26,514 Speaker 2: women who I'm like weirdly obsessed with their fame even 552 00:24:26,514 --> 00:24:28,554 Speaker 2: though they're super famous, like Kate Hudson, I ever said 553 00:24:28,554 --> 00:24:30,274 Speaker 2: this before, Like I'm like rooting for her like she's 554 00:24:30,314 --> 00:24:33,273 Speaker 2: an underdog, even though she's absolutely not. Another underdog I'm 555 00:24:33,314 --> 00:24:37,154 Speaker 2: always rooting for is Jennifer Lopez, who was supposed to 556 00:24:37,234 --> 00:24:39,114 Speaker 2: be on the Awards circuit this year. She thought she 557 00:24:39,194 --> 00:24:40,954 Speaker 2: was going to be nominated. Well, her camp did and 558 00:24:41,074 --> 00:24:42,954 Speaker 2: her team did for Kiss of the Spider Woman, and 559 00:24:43,394 --> 00:24:45,874 Speaker 2: she wasn't. But she's still like that movie didn't really 560 00:24:45,954 --> 00:24:48,714 Speaker 2: get the critiques and the fame I think people thought 561 00:24:48,754 --> 00:24:50,874 Speaker 2: it would. But she has just rocked up to the 562 00:24:50,914 --> 00:24:53,674 Speaker 2: Golden Globes looking like a million dollars, and I'm sure 563 00:24:53,674 --> 00:24:55,594 Speaker 2: people will say we hate it. I'm sure people say 564 00:24:55,674 --> 00:24:57,074 Speaker 2: we don't want to see the naked dress. To that, 565 00:24:57,154 --> 00:24:58,073 Speaker 2: I say, get out of here. 566 00:24:58,354 --> 00:24:58,994 Speaker 1: Do you not like it? 567 00:24:59,674 --> 00:25:02,434 Speaker 2: So I'm covering a question in your judgment. Now now 568 00:25:02,554 --> 00:25:04,994 Speaker 2: she looks hot. I'm not taking any comments of that 569 00:25:05,194 --> 00:25:08,314 Speaker 2: on this time. She just looks like sick Jennifer Lopez. 570 00:25:08,354 --> 00:25:10,833 Speaker 2: And she stands out like that looks like an Award 571 00:25:10,954 --> 00:25:14,514 Speaker 2: show dress in a sea of bland column dresses which 572 00:25:14,514 --> 00:25:16,954 Speaker 2: everyone looks gorgeous. It's lovely in a sea of kind 573 00:25:16,994 --> 00:25:19,074 Speaker 2: of just like straight up and down white and like 574 00:25:19,154 --> 00:25:22,314 Speaker 2: a classic curled hair and a choker that everyone's wearing 575 00:25:22,434 --> 00:25:25,314 Speaker 2: to be safe, which I understand because the internet is ruthless. 576 00:25:25,594 --> 00:25:29,874 Speaker 2: Jennifer Lopez has showed up just looking like a movie star. 577 00:25:30,434 --> 00:25:34,114 Speaker 2: She's a lastly body and yes she really, and you'd 578 00:25:34,154 --> 00:25:36,314 Speaker 2: need it for the dress because the dress is you 579 00:25:36,354 --> 00:25:39,593 Speaker 2: can see her belly button clear as day. It's almost 580 00:25:39,754 --> 00:25:42,474 Speaker 2: like a mesh. I can't find the designer because she's 581 00:25:42,634 --> 00:25:45,594 Speaker 2: just started walking the red carpet as we're recording, but 582 00:25:45,794 --> 00:25:49,994 Speaker 2: it's this beautiful mesh gown, long sleeved. The breasts are 583 00:25:50,074 --> 00:25:52,834 Speaker 2: covered and the bottom half is covered and that's about it. 584 00:25:53,354 --> 00:25:56,154 Speaker 2: With the kind of the pattern of this like dark brown, 585 00:25:56,274 --> 00:26:01,754 Speaker 2: and then it goes into this full mermaid sul cream look. 586 00:26:02,114 --> 00:26:04,754 Speaker 2: And again, I'm sure she's on one hundred worst dressless 587 00:26:04,834 --> 00:26:07,354 Speaker 2: by tonight, but I think she looks amazing. Thing is 588 00:26:07,474 --> 00:26:10,474 Speaker 2: she's dressing for the event. She's dressing to be a 589 00:26:10,554 --> 00:26:13,354 Speaker 2: movie star, and that's what we need. If I wanted 590 00:26:13,354 --> 00:26:16,354 Speaker 2: to see a sea of formal dressers, I go stand 591 00:26:16,434 --> 00:26:17,674 Speaker 2: creepily outside of high. 592 00:26:17,514 --> 00:26:22,794 Speaker 1: School vintage Jean Luis Scherer by Stefan Roland. 593 00:26:23,114 --> 00:26:24,674 Speaker 2: Great. I don't know any of those words, but she 594 00:26:24,754 --> 00:26:25,154 Speaker 2: looks great. 595 00:26:25,194 --> 00:26:28,154 Speaker 1: I probably mispronounced it. I apologize in advance. 596 00:26:27,994 --> 00:26:29,234 Speaker 2: But I just feel like she gets a lot of 597 00:26:29,274 --> 00:26:32,834 Speaker 2: shit for her, like crazy gowns and over the top looks. 598 00:26:32,874 --> 00:26:35,074 Speaker 2: But I'm just like, that is why you're a celebrity. 599 00:26:35,554 --> 00:26:37,234 Speaker 2: Wear that or go home. I know there's a bunch 600 00:26:37,314 --> 00:26:40,234 Speaker 2: of serious actresses that just want to do the art 601 00:26:40,354 --> 00:26:42,914 Speaker 2: and they shopped these award shows and they don't love them, 602 00:26:42,914 --> 00:26:44,513 Speaker 2: but they go because it's part of their job, and 603 00:26:44,594 --> 00:26:46,434 Speaker 2: they wear what they're comfortable. And I'm all for that 604 00:26:46,514 --> 00:26:48,554 Speaker 2: as well. I'm all for wearing what you're comfortable in. 605 00:26:48,914 --> 00:26:51,234 Speaker 2: But that's not for Jennifer Lopez. That's not for proper 606 00:26:51,354 --> 00:26:54,273 Speaker 2: movie stars or like people who are iconic fixtures in 607 00:26:54,314 --> 00:26:56,754 Speaker 2: pop culture. They must wear over the top gowns. 608 00:26:56,794 --> 00:26:59,634 Speaker 1: That's the rule. Okay, all right, look again, I'm not 609 00:26:59,634 --> 00:27:00,554 Speaker 1: gonna yuck your yum. 610 00:27:00,914 --> 00:27:01,874 Speaker 2: You do you girl? 611 00:27:02,474 --> 00:27:04,914 Speaker 1: Not my favorite? I did actually really like what Niki 612 00:27:04,994 --> 00:27:05,754 Speaker 1: Glaser was wearing. 613 00:27:06,074 --> 00:27:07,034 Speaker 2: Oh tholay. 614 00:27:07,914 --> 00:27:11,394 Speaker 1: Yeah. Niki Laser is hosting the Awards. She hosted last year, 615 00:27:11,474 --> 00:27:14,314 Speaker 1: so this is her second year hosting the awards, and 616 00:27:14,594 --> 00:27:17,114 Speaker 1: she's wearing a Zooham Mourad, who is actually one of 617 00:27:17,154 --> 00:27:21,394 Speaker 1: my favorite designers. Zooh hammerard gown. Yes, so it's a ballgown, 618 00:27:21,634 --> 00:27:25,834 Speaker 1: classic ballgown shape. We have a sweetheart neckline, roosed bodice, 619 00:27:25,994 --> 00:27:29,234 Speaker 1: and then like a full pink skirt. It is really 620 00:27:29,394 --> 00:27:33,034 Speaker 1: really pretty and a lot more feminine than I've seen 621 00:27:33,154 --> 00:27:35,994 Speaker 1: her in. I think she normally does slightly like a 622 00:27:36,114 --> 00:27:39,554 Speaker 1: sexier or she's usually not in this sort of way 623 00:27:39,634 --> 00:27:43,154 Speaker 1: of this really really pretty style. I would see Ariana 624 00:27:43,194 --> 00:27:46,354 Speaker 1: Grande during the Wicked Press tour wearing a pretty face. 625 00:27:46,754 --> 00:27:49,434 Speaker 1: It's quite similar to that sort of vibe. I think 626 00:27:49,474 --> 00:27:51,434 Speaker 1: she looks really pretty. She does look really and I'm 627 00:27:51,554 --> 00:27:54,954 Speaker 1: interested if she is going to be opening the show 628 00:27:55,034 --> 00:27:57,154 Speaker 1: in this or if she's going to change again. We 629 00:27:57,234 --> 00:27:58,074 Speaker 1: haven't seen them. 630 00:27:58,234 --> 00:28:01,434 Speaker 2: Yes, Ceremony hasn't started as a record. 631 00:28:01,194 --> 00:28:03,874 Speaker 1: As a recording, but I think there's something quite funny 632 00:28:03,994 --> 00:28:07,994 Speaker 1: about wearing something that looks really sweet and then celebrities 633 00:28:08,034 --> 00:28:08,594 Speaker 1: to shreds. 634 00:28:08,794 --> 00:28:10,794 Speaker 2: Yeah. I kind of like that. That is a nice 635 00:28:10,874 --> 00:28:13,513 Speaker 2: salance that with what she's wearing. I just love anyone 636 00:28:13,554 --> 00:28:16,674 Speaker 2: who kind of like looks like they're wearing their own style. 637 00:28:16,954 --> 00:28:19,634 Speaker 2: And someone else who I loved was Bella Ramsey from 638 00:28:19,754 --> 00:28:24,434 Speaker 2: the Last of Us. So they are wearing this beautifully 639 00:28:24,554 --> 00:28:27,794 Speaker 2: cut like a black satin suit with a white tie 640 00:28:27,954 --> 00:28:29,954 Speaker 2: and shirt, which is a look that they've worn many 641 00:28:30,034 --> 00:28:32,634 Speaker 2: times on different red carpets. But then they've added this. 642 00:28:32,834 --> 00:28:34,234 Speaker 2: This is what I mean. You can wear your own 643 00:28:34,314 --> 00:28:36,914 Speaker 2: look but also look like you're dressing for the occasion, 644 00:28:37,274 --> 00:28:40,314 Speaker 2: because then they have paired it with this. I mean, 645 00:28:40,354 --> 00:28:41,914 Speaker 2: they can't lift their arms up, but that's okay. Why 646 00:28:41,954 --> 00:28:43,674 Speaker 2: would you need to with the golden globes. They are 647 00:28:43,714 --> 00:28:48,874 Speaker 2: wearing this beautiful dark pink satin sash tied over the 648 00:28:48,994 --> 00:28:50,994 Speaker 2: suit with a rosette in the middle, and all of 649 00:28:51,074 --> 00:28:54,154 Speaker 2: the pink silk is draping down the back of Bella's 650 00:28:54,194 --> 00:28:55,474 Speaker 2: suit and they just look amazing. 651 00:28:55,754 --> 00:28:58,474 Speaker 1: I really like it too. It is a very Valentino 652 00:28:58,594 --> 00:29:00,714 Speaker 1: pink is that is what I would call that pink. 653 00:29:01,114 --> 00:29:04,674 Speaker 1: It's fu shite. It is so so bright. Again, juxtaposition, 654 00:29:04,754 --> 00:29:08,114 Speaker 1: you want me some juxtaposition today, But the black and 655 00:29:08,274 --> 00:29:11,794 Speaker 1: the pink, and it's really interesting to look at. They 656 00:29:11,994 --> 00:29:13,674 Speaker 1: do look slightly uncomfortable, like you. 657 00:29:13,834 --> 00:29:17,074 Speaker 2: Can't they can't live, but also beauty is pain. They 658 00:29:17,114 --> 00:29:20,514 Speaker 2: cannot lift their arms like t rex arms at the moment. Yes, 659 00:29:20,674 --> 00:29:22,474 Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll take it. Once they sit down to 660 00:29:22,554 --> 00:29:25,074 Speaker 2: the dinner, they'll take the sash off and then it'll 661 00:29:25,114 --> 00:29:27,514 Speaker 2: be okay. You know her else looked k as hell. 662 00:29:27,634 --> 00:29:29,794 Speaker 1: Oh no, you're gonna like, I know what you say? 663 00:29:29,914 --> 00:29:30,354 Speaker 2: Which one? 664 00:29:31,114 --> 00:29:31,354 Speaker 3: Go on? 665 00:29:31,514 --> 00:29:35,194 Speaker 2: Tell me you got no? No, you'll agree in this one, 666 00:29:35,314 --> 00:29:39,594 Speaker 2: Emma Stone in the yellow. Okay, she is in again, 667 00:29:39,674 --> 00:29:42,554 Speaker 2: looking chic as hell. Again. This is how you can 668 00:29:42,714 --> 00:29:45,394 Speaker 2: kind of be a little bit safe. But also I 669 00:29:45,474 --> 00:29:48,634 Speaker 2: think look a bit movie star esque. Look at me 670 00:29:48,754 --> 00:29:50,954 Speaker 2: and my like T shirt sitting here giving fashion advice. 671 00:29:51,034 --> 00:29:53,074 Speaker 2: But I love a red carpet. I just want everyone 672 00:29:53,194 --> 00:29:54,434 Speaker 2: to look crazy. That's all I want. 673 00:29:54,474 --> 00:29:55,834 Speaker 1: Okay. Can I just say one thing though, if you 674 00:29:55,914 --> 00:29:58,114 Speaker 1: are listening to us and not watching our Laura has 675 00:29:58,154 --> 00:30:03,194 Speaker 1: brought a very very beautiful sequence disguise today, and I 676 00:30:03,354 --> 00:30:04,954 Speaker 1: was like, are you you've dressed for the globes? 677 00:30:05,114 --> 00:30:07,714 Speaker 2: You know, I just needed something, But you know what 678 00:30:07,834 --> 00:30:09,514 Speaker 2: it is. You could get away with the skirt at 679 00:30:09,514 --> 00:30:12,594 Speaker 2: the globe. Laura is wearing Sequence and I'm in sneakers. 680 00:30:13,314 --> 00:30:16,114 Speaker 2: But that is the beautiful podcast. Everyone has their personal 681 00:30:16,234 --> 00:30:18,994 Speaker 2: style so well. Speaking of Seeken skirt, she's wearing like 682 00:30:19,074 --> 00:30:22,394 Speaker 2: a beautiful light lemon yellow, and then she's got a 683 00:30:22,554 --> 00:30:25,514 Speaker 2: lemon sort of sequin, but very like the video of 684 00:30:25,594 --> 00:30:27,234 Speaker 2: it was beautiful because it has all these like almost 685 00:30:27,234 --> 00:30:29,754 Speaker 2: crystal beads and that were kind of swinging slightly as 686 00:30:29,754 --> 00:30:31,954 Speaker 2: she was going down the red carpet. But then she's 687 00:30:31,994 --> 00:30:36,274 Speaker 2: got her stomach showing and then a very simple lemon 688 00:30:36,354 --> 00:30:38,674 Speaker 2: yellow silk top and that looks like her real hair, 689 00:30:38,714 --> 00:30:41,354 Speaker 2: because remember how she shaved her hair for Thegnia that 690 00:30:41,474 --> 00:30:44,434 Speaker 2: she's nominated for. Shaved her head and then she had 691 00:30:44,474 --> 00:30:46,274 Speaker 2: to wear a lot of wigs on the red carpet 692 00:30:46,314 --> 00:30:48,274 Speaker 2: after that, which a lot of actresses do. I'd say 693 00:30:48,314 --> 00:30:50,434 Speaker 2: like probably eighty percent of the people in that red 694 00:30:50,474 --> 00:30:53,114 Speaker 2: carpet tonight are wearing a wig or they're wearing mostly 695 00:30:53,194 --> 00:30:55,394 Speaker 2: hair extensions. So it's kind of a wig. But it's 696 00:30:55,394 --> 00:30:57,634 Speaker 2: so funny because she was so aware she was wearing 697 00:30:57,634 --> 00:30:59,874 Speaker 2: a wig because she usually doesn't that she kept moving 698 00:30:59,914 --> 00:31:01,674 Speaker 2: it the whole time, so you wouldn't have been on 699 00:31:01,714 --> 00:31:02,954 Speaker 2: a tet. It was a wig. And she has said 700 00:31:02,994 --> 00:31:04,554 Speaker 2: this on Red carp She said this an interview. She 701 00:31:04,714 --> 00:31:06,274 Speaker 2: was like, Yeah, I kept touching the wig and I 702 00:31:06,354 --> 00:31:08,634 Speaker 2: kept moving it, and that's like a big no I 703 00:31:08,714 --> 00:31:10,674 Speaker 2: want a red cart, but that's her own hair grown back. 704 00:31:10,834 --> 00:31:12,554 Speaker 1: Do you know the reason I love this is it's 705 00:31:12,674 --> 00:31:16,594 Speaker 1: kind of giving me a little bit like Calvin Kleiny, Yeah, nineties, 706 00:31:16,714 --> 00:31:20,314 Speaker 1: two thousands. Yeah, that's why it's so I think that's 707 00:31:20,354 --> 00:31:22,354 Speaker 1: why it works so well. And the fact that the 708 00:31:22,474 --> 00:31:24,914 Speaker 1: skirt is sort of below the belly button and we 709 00:31:25,034 --> 00:31:30,234 Speaker 1: see the abs. It's really chic, super cool. You know 710 00:31:30,354 --> 00:31:31,194 Speaker 1: what she's dressed. 711 00:31:31,314 --> 00:31:33,274 Speaker 2: That's a winning dress, right, that is a winning dress. 712 00:31:33,434 --> 00:31:35,594 Speaker 2: I don't think she's gonna win. I mean, we'll see 713 00:31:35,714 --> 00:31:37,954 Speaker 2: coming up, because she's not super the favorite this year. 714 00:31:37,994 --> 00:31:39,954 Speaker 2: She's like the favorite to be nominated and everything, but 715 00:31:40,074 --> 00:31:42,514 Speaker 2: potentially not win. But it does look like a winner's dress. 716 00:31:42,554 --> 00:31:44,834 Speaker 2: And she's had a few like remember when heard her 717 00:31:44,954 --> 00:31:47,314 Speaker 2: Luisviton dress broke when she go up to get her oscar, 718 00:31:47,634 --> 00:31:49,794 Speaker 2: And she's had a few other little malfunctions over the years. 719 00:31:49,794 --> 00:31:51,594 Speaker 2: So maybe she was like, we put the top on, 720 00:31:51,714 --> 00:31:53,674 Speaker 2: we put the skirt on, and nothing can move, nothing 721 00:31:53,714 --> 00:31:56,394 Speaker 2: can break. And she does look very kind of like 722 00:31:56,474 --> 00:31:58,714 Speaker 2: what a supermodel would wear in the in the early 723 00:31:58,874 --> 00:32:00,834 Speaker 2: nineties to the Oscars when it was a bit more 724 00:32:00,954 --> 00:32:01,194 Speaker 2: kind of. 725 00:32:01,274 --> 00:32:03,674 Speaker 1: Lax Okay, should we talk about some of the men. 726 00:32:03,994 --> 00:32:05,434 Speaker 2: Yes, I'd love to talk about men. 727 00:32:05,554 --> 00:32:07,554 Speaker 1: I love to talk about men. I do love in 728 00:32:07,634 --> 00:32:10,594 Speaker 1: recent years that men have really been stepping up a 729 00:32:10,634 --> 00:32:11,794 Speaker 1: little bit on the Red carpet. 730 00:32:11,994 --> 00:32:14,034 Speaker 2: And yet I still don't really. I mean, I do 731 00:32:14,194 --> 00:32:15,674 Speaker 2: care what someone I hear, what they're doing, not so 732 00:32:15,794 --> 00:32:16,354 Speaker 2: much what they're wear. 733 00:32:16,434 --> 00:32:19,994 Speaker 1: Okay, we would be remiss to not mention our absolute 734 00:32:20,154 --> 00:32:23,914 Speaker 1: new favorites in this office, and that is Hudson, Williams 735 00:32:23,994 --> 00:32:24,834 Speaker 1: and Connor story. 736 00:32:25,434 --> 00:32:27,474 Speaker 2: It's in my notes. When I was watching the Red Carpet, 737 00:32:27,514 --> 00:32:29,714 Speaker 2: I was putting little notes of what everyone was doing 738 00:32:29,794 --> 00:32:32,354 Speaker 2: that was interesting or lovely or fun. And I've just 739 00:32:32,394 --> 00:32:35,874 Speaker 2: got next to Connor and Hudson's names, just existing, because 740 00:32:35,874 --> 00:32:39,594 Speaker 2: they literally just walked up the carpet, existing and smiled 741 00:32:39,634 --> 00:32:41,954 Speaker 2: and waved and looked so cute and so happy to 742 00:32:42,034 --> 00:32:44,394 Speaker 2: be there. And Hudson at one point was very overwhelmed 743 00:32:44,394 --> 00:32:47,594 Speaker 2: and he's like, whoah, but they have just somehow won 744 00:32:47,634 --> 00:32:49,114 Speaker 2: their Red Carpet just by being alive. 745 00:32:49,314 --> 00:32:51,874 Speaker 1: I did not see a bigger reaction in the office 746 00:32:52,314 --> 00:32:55,874 Speaker 1: until these two arrived. Yeah, particular Connor. Connor really got 747 00:32:55,914 --> 00:32:59,874 Speaker 1: everybody's knickers in a twist, mainly because they didn't like 748 00:33:00,034 --> 00:33:01,954 Speaker 1: his hair. But I quite liked the mullet. 749 00:33:02,034 --> 00:33:03,434 Speaker 2: Oh, I thought the hair was fine. I mean I 750 00:33:03,674 --> 00:33:03,874 Speaker 2: liked it. 751 00:33:04,234 --> 00:33:06,914 Speaker 1: So he's wearing a very classic black suit, which is great, 752 00:33:07,274 --> 00:33:09,474 Speaker 1: skinny tiny had these sort of round glasses on, very 753 00:33:09,554 --> 00:33:13,674 Speaker 1: sort of beetlesy, and this scruffy surfer boy hair. 754 00:33:14,714 --> 00:33:17,634 Speaker 2: Little glasses. This year, they've all got the little Jacob 755 00:33:17,674 --> 00:33:21,114 Speaker 2: and Lordie. He walked so slowly up the stairs with 756 00:33:21,194 --> 00:33:24,154 Speaker 2: his heads down. He was like lurching up the stairs, 757 00:33:24,274 --> 00:33:26,874 Speaker 2: still looking hot as hell, obviously with the tiny little 758 00:33:26,874 --> 00:33:29,594 Speaker 2: glasses on. Glenn Powell had the tiny little glasses on. 759 00:33:29,674 --> 00:33:31,314 Speaker 2: He took them off to walk up the stairs. Maybe 760 00:33:31,314 --> 00:33:33,874 Speaker 2: he did four falling over. And then Adam Brodie also 761 00:33:33,994 --> 00:33:36,794 Speaker 2: walked with tiny little glasses on. Yeah, it is very 762 00:33:36,874 --> 00:33:39,234 Speaker 2: hot there. I will say that it's very hot at 763 00:33:39,274 --> 00:33:41,194 Speaker 2: the moment. A lot of the celebs are talking about 764 00:33:41,234 --> 00:33:45,194 Speaker 2: the fact that they're sweating, that it's glary. But I 765 00:33:45,274 --> 00:33:47,074 Speaker 2: don't know if it's just that, like you pre plan 766 00:33:47,194 --> 00:33:49,314 Speaker 2: the sunglasses. I don't think they got out of the 767 00:33:49,394 --> 00:33:50,794 Speaker 2: car of the glog box and were like, it's hot, 768 00:33:50,794 --> 00:33:51,514 Speaker 2: I'm gonna put these on. 769 00:33:51,674 --> 00:33:54,314 Speaker 1: Connor's outfit was better with the glasses on, for sure. 770 00:33:54,434 --> 00:33:55,994 Speaker 2: That's what some people think about Adam Brodie. 771 00:33:55,994 --> 00:33:56,314 Speaker 3: I don't know. 772 00:33:56,994 --> 00:33:58,114 Speaker 2: I don't know if I love a man in a 773 00:33:58,194 --> 00:33:59,074 Speaker 2: tiny sunglass now. 774 00:33:59,114 --> 00:34:01,554 Speaker 1: I also really like Hudson's look. He was wearing Armani. 775 00:34:01,554 --> 00:34:04,474 Speaker 1: He's got this white jacket, he's wearing a Caamabun sort 776 00:34:04,514 --> 00:34:09,354 Speaker 1: of silk shirt, and he's wearing this really beautiful Bogari necklace. 777 00:34:10,314 --> 00:34:13,674 Speaker 1: It's that classic serpent necklace that they're well known for. 778 00:34:13,834 --> 00:34:16,274 Speaker 1: But because it's so small, it's so delicate, it's just 779 00:34:17,154 --> 00:34:17,553 Speaker 1: so hot. 780 00:34:17,594 --> 00:34:20,114 Speaker 2: And they'd be not in as last minute presenters because 781 00:34:20,114 --> 00:34:23,634 Speaker 2: obviously they are everyone's then at the moment they're they're 782 00:34:23,634 --> 00:34:25,314 Speaker 2: the stars of the moment, men or women. They're the 783 00:34:25,314 --> 00:34:28,393 Speaker 2: people everyone cares about. But they can't be nominated for 784 00:34:28,474 --> 00:34:30,554 Speaker 2: anything one because Heat of Rivalry is not in the 785 00:34:30,834 --> 00:34:32,873 Speaker 2: nominee drop window, and two was made in Canada, so 786 00:34:32,914 --> 00:34:35,033 Speaker 2: they'll never be nominated. But they're getting that. They found 787 00:34:35,034 --> 00:34:37,114 Speaker 2: a way to get them on stage rop to the 788 00:34:37,154 --> 00:34:40,154 Speaker 2: stars who got bumped because they would have had presenters 789 00:34:40,234 --> 00:34:41,873 Speaker 2: locked in. And I know things do change in the 790 00:34:41,954 --> 00:34:44,754 Speaker 2: last minute with schedules and things but I'm just gonna 791 00:34:44,874 --> 00:34:47,114 Speaker 2: lemon say that two slabs got bumped for these two 792 00:34:47,154 --> 00:34:48,474 Speaker 2: hot men, and I'm okay. 793 00:34:48,274 --> 00:34:50,914 Speaker 1: With that absolutely. The other thing about them is that 794 00:34:51,514 --> 00:34:53,074 Speaker 1: a lot of people have been commenting to me they 795 00:34:53,114 --> 00:34:54,274 Speaker 1: look a little uncomfortable. 796 00:34:54,594 --> 00:34:55,634 Speaker 2: What I say to that they do? 797 00:34:55,914 --> 00:34:56,873 Speaker 1: Why do you think they do it? 798 00:34:56,954 --> 00:34:59,754 Speaker 2: When sometimes when people like start screaming in their faces, 799 00:34:59,834 --> 00:35:01,354 Speaker 2: but they look pretty happy to be famous. 800 00:35:01,754 --> 00:35:05,474 Speaker 1: I would say, though, that is the most overwhelming environment 801 00:35:05,554 --> 00:35:07,714 Speaker 1: for them to be on. Can you imagine and literally 802 00:35:07,754 --> 00:35:10,834 Speaker 1: two weeks ago, basically no one knew your name. Now 803 00:35:10,914 --> 00:35:16,314 Speaker 1: you're at the Golden Globes with a thousand photographers screaming 804 00:35:16,394 --> 00:35:20,554 Speaker 1: your name. That would be very overwhelming for anybody, for anybody, 805 00:35:20,754 --> 00:35:22,794 Speaker 1: But bravo to them. I'm like so proud of them. 806 00:35:24,434 --> 00:35:28,154 Speaker 1: Any other boys that you didn't Oh, okay, wait, Patrick Schwartzenegar. 807 00:35:27,754 --> 00:35:29,274 Speaker 2: All right, what do you have to say about Patrick? 808 00:35:29,314 --> 00:35:31,234 Speaker 2: I just mean he just looks like nice right. 809 00:35:31,434 --> 00:35:34,114 Speaker 1: Well, Patrick Schwarzenegger had the glasses too, so he was laying. 810 00:35:34,714 --> 00:35:38,114 Speaker 2: His Hollywood group chat. These men are or whatever, like 811 00:35:38,234 --> 00:35:40,674 Speaker 2: boys of Hollywood group chat. These manner is you can 812 00:35:40,754 --> 00:35:43,154 Speaker 2: just tell one guy said I'm gonna wear glasses. Everyone 813 00:35:43,194 --> 00:35:45,114 Speaker 2: else is like, yeah, bro me too, Yeah, me too, 814 00:35:45,154 --> 00:35:46,234 Speaker 2: and that's why they all look like that. 815 00:35:46,474 --> 00:35:49,634 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's wearing these sort of square framed glasses. There's spectacles, 816 00:35:49,714 --> 00:35:52,714 Speaker 1: not chat sunglasses though, And he's got a bow tie 817 00:35:53,554 --> 00:35:57,234 Speaker 1: and a very loose pant. It actually looks very tom fordy. 818 00:35:57,314 --> 00:35:59,554 Speaker 1: I don't know if it is tom Ford, but it's 819 00:35:59,594 --> 00:36:01,913 Speaker 1: got that kind of same vibe as a tom Ford. 820 00:36:01,954 --> 00:36:04,634 Speaker 1: And he's got this big brooch on. Actually don't hate it. 821 00:36:04,834 --> 00:36:06,393 Speaker 1: When I first saw it, I didn't love it. Now 822 00:36:06,594 --> 00:36:09,594 Speaker 1: it's growing on me. Yeah, I mean a man in 823 00:36:09,754 --> 00:36:11,714 Speaker 1: real time. I've just changed my mind. Amazing. 824 00:36:12,274 --> 00:36:15,034 Speaker 2: A brooch is impressive. What other men did I like 825 00:36:15,154 --> 00:36:16,994 Speaker 2: in general? I mean again, and most of them do 826 00:36:17,114 --> 00:36:18,714 Speaker 2: nothing for me because I'm too busy looking at all 827 00:36:18,714 --> 00:36:20,634 Speaker 2: the gowns. But I looked at his picture very quickly, 828 00:36:20,674 --> 00:36:23,513 Speaker 2: and then I quickly swiped away Joe Kerey from Stranger Things. 829 00:36:23,914 --> 00:36:26,234 Speaker 2: First of all, he looked tod as hell, obviously, and 830 00:36:26,314 --> 00:36:30,714 Speaker 2: he's blonde, which I don't love it, but also tips Yeah, 831 00:36:31,074 --> 00:36:33,114 Speaker 2: it's just like, guess he looks fine. He again, he 832 00:36:33,234 --> 00:36:35,794 Speaker 2: is another man of the moment, obviously, with Stranger Things 833 00:36:35,834 --> 00:36:37,674 Speaker 2: and having the number one song and all these things, 834 00:36:37,754 --> 00:36:39,634 Speaker 2: but I almost didn't want to look at him one 835 00:36:39,714 --> 00:36:42,034 Speaker 2: because the blonde. I just wasn't emotionally ready for that. 836 00:36:42,194 --> 00:36:45,393 Speaker 2: And I miss his his like full on Steve Harrington hair. 837 00:36:45,594 --> 00:36:47,473 Speaker 2: But also when I'm so deep in a TV show 838 00:36:47,514 --> 00:36:49,594 Speaker 2: as I have been recently in Stranger Things, I can't 839 00:36:49,594 --> 00:36:52,433 Speaker 2: see the people in real life. It's too it's too 840 00:36:52,514 --> 00:36:53,953 Speaker 2: shocking to be like out of the world. 841 00:36:54,554 --> 00:36:58,033 Speaker 1: Another one that I really liked also a little boy, 842 00:36:58,474 --> 00:37:01,274 Speaker 1: and he's actually a little boy. It's Duke McLeod. Do 843 00:37:01,354 --> 00:37:03,714 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think I do all her fault. 844 00:37:04,874 --> 00:37:05,953 Speaker 2: It's a little blonde boy. 845 00:37:06,234 --> 00:37:10,754 Speaker 1: He's like six years old. He's adorable. He's wearing a 846 00:37:10,834 --> 00:37:15,034 Speaker 1: little blue double breasted blazer and blue pants and on 847 00:37:15,194 --> 00:37:18,714 Speaker 1: the red carpet he was doing six seven to the photographers. 848 00:37:18,834 --> 00:37:20,794 Speaker 2: Oh does I cannot know? That's over? It was so 849 00:37:21,234 --> 00:37:23,714 Speaker 2: someone needs to catch him up on a trend. Well, 850 00:37:23,834 --> 00:37:26,234 Speaker 2: he's also a working actor. He needs to get it together. 851 00:37:26,434 --> 00:37:29,354 Speaker 1: He was doing the six seventh thing too, kid, that's 852 00:37:29,434 --> 00:37:31,513 Speaker 1: over to the camera and it just way we laugh 853 00:37:31,634 --> 00:37:33,954 Speaker 1: because my kids do that to me. It just it 854 00:37:34,074 --> 00:37:36,434 Speaker 1: was so sweet. He looks gorgeous, he's so cute. 855 00:37:37,154 --> 00:37:38,993 Speaker 2: Love it children on a red car, But I don't 856 00:37:38,994 --> 00:37:39,634 Speaker 2: know how I feel about it. 857 00:37:40,194 --> 00:37:42,914 Speaker 1: You seem very uninterested by the but he's so cute. 858 00:37:44,154 --> 00:37:48,354 Speaker 2: I'm sure I'm not going to say this. I'm not 859 00:37:48,394 --> 00:37:50,913 Speaker 2: going to say the childs are not, you know, looking 860 00:37:51,074 --> 00:37:52,834 Speaker 2: very sweet and stuff. But I have just no thought. 861 00:37:52,834 --> 00:37:54,274 Speaker 2: I have no thoughts on a child either way, which 862 00:37:54,274 --> 00:37:57,514 Speaker 2: is probably as it should be critiquing his outfit. We 863 00:37:57,634 --> 00:38:01,194 Speaker 2: had a few couple arrival as well, Benny Blanco and 864 00:38:01,314 --> 00:38:04,674 Speaker 2: Selena Gomez. She's wearing again, very old When I first 865 00:38:04,674 --> 00:38:07,034 Speaker 2: saw Selena Gomez in the very once again doing that 866 00:38:07,554 --> 00:38:11,114 Speaker 2: very old school, almost like forties movie star with the 867 00:38:11,274 --> 00:38:14,154 Speaker 2: very chic bob and the red lip and yeah, that 868 00:38:14,274 --> 00:38:15,874 Speaker 2: she had for a wedding, and she looks so beautiful, 869 00:38:15,914 --> 00:38:17,873 Speaker 2: and she got such good feedback on her hair from 870 00:38:17,914 --> 00:38:19,873 Speaker 2: her wedding. I wonder if she was like, let's go again. 871 00:38:19,994 --> 00:38:21,714 Speaker 1: It's effectively the same as she did. 872 00:38:23,834 --> 00:38:26,433 Speaker 2: Hairstyle. I'll go with that. She's got like a big 873 00:38:26,554 --> 00:38:28,393 Speaker 2: frill around the top. Then it's just a black gown. 874 00:38:28,634 --> 00:38:30,034 Speaker 2: And when I first saw it as a bit like 875 00:38:30,154 --> 00:38:33,033 Speaker 2: I'm kind of over the old Hollywood cosplay, that she does, 876 00:38:33,194 --> 00:38:35,314 Speaker 2: but also she does look really beautiful, so maybe I'm 877 00:38:35,354 --> 00:38:37,034 Speaker 2: just being a hater, but I do love how she 878 00:38:37,154 --> 00:38:39,594 Speaker 2: and Bennie Blanco, like the fresh little newly weds that 879 00:38:39,634 --> 00:38:42,033 Speaker 2: they are so in love, walked down the red carpet together, 880 00:38:42,114 --> 00:38:45,314 Speaker 2: but when they got to the steps, they positioned themselves. 881 00:38:45,314 --> 00:38:47,314 Speaker 2: I don't know where they discussed beforehand that he stood 882 00:38:47,354 --> 00:38:49,994 Speaker 2: up on the step above her, because he's infamously like 883 00:38:50,114 --> 00:38:52,194 Speaker 2: only a tiny bit shorter than her, which is not 884 00:38:52,274 --> 00:38:54,714 Speaker 2: even a big deal at all, but it just made 885 00:38:54,754 --> 00:38:57,394 Speaker 2: the height difference look even more intense because he stood 886 00:38:57,474 --> 00:38:59,433 Speaker 2: up on a step, which is what I make sure 887 00:38:59,474 --> 00:39:01,553 Speaker 2: people do around me. And then she's sort of next 888 00:39:01,594 --> 00:39:03,393 Speaker 2: to him, so that in the photo is he looks 889 00:39:03,434 --> 00:39:05,834 Speaker 2: taller than her. It was a choice, go for it. 890 00:39:05,914 --> 00:39:08,594 Speaker 1: They're like a similar Well, he's tall than her, but 891 00:39:09,354 --> 00:39:09,954 Speaker 1: she was wearing. 892 00:39:10,034 --> 00:39:12,154 Speaker 2: She's wearing heels and stuff. That's fine. I think it's 893 00:39:12,194 --> 00:39:15,314 Speaker 2: fine too, But also maybe they just thought that's how 894 00:39:15,354 --> 00:39:18,514 Speaker 2: the photos would look better. I don't know. Leighton Mesta 895 00:39:18,714 --> 00:39:20,754 Speaker 2: and Adam Brodie coming down the red carpet, what do 896 00:39:20,794 --> 00:39:21,714 Speaker 2: you think of those two kids? 897 00:39:21,954 --> 00:39:23,754 Speaker 1: I love those two kids. I love late and Mesta. 898 00:39:24,034 --> 00:39:27,594 Speaker 1: I think she's so not bothered about cameras and press, 899 00:39:27,714 --> 00:39:29,274 Speaker 1: and it just makes me laugh because she's just a 900 00:39:29,434 --> 00:39:30,913 Speaker 1: very like she just seems really chill. 901 00:39:31,034 --> 00:39:32,554 Speaker 2: She's been in the game so long. I think she's 902 00:39:32,594 --> 00:39:34,794 Speaker 2: kind of like on such a Scandalos show, she was 903 00:39:34,834 --> 00:39:37,033 Speaker 2: like whatever. When I saw the photos of her dress, 904 00:39:37,114 --> 00:39:39,554 Speaker 2: it's kind of like a yellow satin band around the top, 905 00:39:39,634 --> 00:39:41,954 Speaker 2: and then again the column dress in a silver I 906 00:39:42,074 --> 00:39:43,834 Speaker 2: was a bit like, it's a bit drab, But when 907 00:39:43,914 --> 00:39:45,674 Speaker 2: you see it in movement, like when I saw the 908 00:39:45,834 --> 00:39:48,393 Speaker 2: videos of her walking and how her hair worked with it, 909 00:39:48,794 --> 00:39:51,154 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, yes, yes, yes, like that. It's 910 00:39:51,274 --> 00:39:53,234 Speaker 2: meant to be a dress in movement. A photo does 911 00:39:53,314 --> 00:39:55,913 Speaker 2: not do it justice. Yeah, And she was getting quite 912 00:39:55,914 --> 00:39:57,393 Speaker 2: a lot of hate. Did you see this from the 913 00:39:57,474 --> 00:40:00,714 Speaker 2: Critics Choice Awards where she had this moment of interaction 914 00:40:00,834 --> 00:40:03,994 Speaker 2: where she and Ariana Grande crosspaths and they had this 915 00:40:04,154 --> 00:40:05,954 Speaker 2: moment of like yelling cross to each other, and I 916 00:40:05,994 --> 00:40:08,234 Speaker 2: thought it was all really nice, And then afterwards this 917 00:40:08,274 --> 00:40:10,674 Speaker 2: whole storm block of people thinking that she was mocking 918 00:40:10,714 --> 00:40:13,074 Speaker 2: Ariana Grande and that she was being a mean girl 919 00:40:13,154 --> 00:40:15,634 Speaker 2: and like one she's been famous for such a long time, 920 00:40:15,874 --> 00:40:17,674 Speaker 2: and for playing a mean girl that I think she'd 921 00:40:17,714 --> 00:40:19,314 Speaker 2: be smart enough not to do it in public if 922 00:40:19,354 --> 00:40:22,314 Speaker 2: that was her persona. But two, I honestly just think 923 00:40:22,354 --> 00:40:24,473 Speaker 2: that Ariana Grande has being like you know she does, 924 00:40:24,554 --> 00:40:26,314 Speaker 2: I love you, make God, You're amazing, and then like 925 00:40:26,754 --> 00:40:29,034 Speaker 2: just to match her energy, late and Mista was like, ah, 926 00:40:29,074 --> 00:40:30,714 Speaker 2: I love you too, ye Like I don't think she 927 00:40:30,874 --> 00:40:34,234 Speaker 2: was mocking her. No, she was bold to mock Ariana 928 00:40:34,274 --> 00:40:35,754 Speaker 2: Grande in front of fifteen cameras. 929 00:40:35,834 --> 00:40:38,314 Speaker 1: I also think you can see late Mester has a 930 00:40:38,474 --> 00:40:41,074 Speaker 1: very dry sense of humor. All you have to do 931 00:40:41,394 --> 00:40:44,034 Speaker 1: is watch Nobody Wants This and you can see the 932 00:40:44,074 --> 00:40:47,954 Speaker 1: way she plays that character. It is a satirical it 933 00:40:48,154 --> 00:40:51,434 Speaker 1: is dry, but this it's all done with humor. I 934 00:40:51,474 --> 00:40:54,514 Speaker 1: don't think she's like making fun of anyone. Now. A 935 00:40:54,554 --> 00:40:59,194 Speaker 1: couple that was kind of missing sham Malamalama Lama and Kaylie. 936 00:40:59,594 --> 00:41:01,194 Speaker 2: Yeah, so she's there. She is there. 937 00:41:01,274 --> 00:41:03,393 Speaker 1: We haven't seen photos of them together yet. 938 00:41:03,594 --> 00:41:06,433 Speaker 2: She's wearing and she'd kind of broken her like match 939 00:41:06,514 --> 00:41:09,074 Speaker 2: with him where black rule that she normally has for 940 00:41:09,114 --> 00:41:10,834 Speaker 2: the red carpet because she's wearing that almost like a 941 00:41:10,994 --> 00:41:15,794 Speaker 2: champagne colored gown that is so perfectly fitted that it 942 00:41:16,034 --> 00:41:18,674 Speaker 2: just looks incredible. So she's kind of gone the full 943 00:41:18,754 --> 00:41:21,714 Speaker 2: like movie star look with her outfit. I haven't seen 944 00:41:21,754 --> 00:41:24,874 Speaker 2: them walk the red carpet together again, we've been in records, 945 00:41:24,914 --> 00:41:27,074 Speaker 2: so I think they probably will, and he's probably gonna 946 00:41:27,074 --> 00:41:28,834 Speaker 2: win too, So I wonder if he'll give her another 947 00:41:28,954 --> 00:41:31,913 Speaker 2: shout out, and if he'll keep building until he wins 948 00:41:31,954 --> 00:41:34,354 Speaker 2: the Oscar and then he'll like be even more emotional. 949 00:41:34,514 --> 00:41:37,994 Speaker 2: In true Kardashian style, she pre posted herself first, perfect 950 00:41:38,114 --> 00:41:40,993 Speaker 2: across all her socials so that she could control how 951 00:41:41,074 --> 00:41:42,954 Speaker 2: she looks in the first images, which is something that 952 00:41:43,034 --> 00:41:45,794 Speaker 2: Kim Kardashian has started doing because Kim Kardashian has said 953 00:41:45,794 --> 00:41:47,954 Speaker 2: that she can no longer trust the lighting and the 954 00:41:47,994 --> 00:41:50,754 Speaker 2: angles on a red carpet, and she'll pre post her 955 00:41:50,794 --> 00:41:53,433 Speaker 2: own photos fair enough, because sometimes at these wards shows 956 00:41:53,474 --> 00:41:55,914 Speaker 2: there have been times where the lighting has been so 957 00:41:56,434 --> 00:41:59,714 Speaker 2: awful that every single celeb you can't see what the 958 00:41:59,834 --> 00:42:02,393 Speaker 2: dress properly looks like. And then they post the photo later, 959 00:42:02,474 --> 00:42:04,234 Speaker 2: but late, it's too late. We've already seen the first time. 960 00:42:04,314 --> 00:42:06,794 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's but him doing that first bit 961 00:42:06,834 --> 00:42:09,473 Speaker 1: buying I think is very very intentional. It is again, 962 00:42:09,514 --> 00:42:12,074 Speaker 1: I'm a serious actor. I don't want people to make 963 00:42:12,154 --> 00:42:14,634 Speaker 1: this a joke of me. I am. I am here 964 00:42:14,754 --> 00:42:17,754 Speaker 1: to win. Yes, it was very very very calculated in 965 00:42:17,874 --> 00:42:18,634 Speaker 1: that sense, I think. 966 00:42:18,954 --> 00:42:21,393 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that Timothy Charmain and Kylie Jenner 967 00:42:21,434 --> 00:42:24,354 Speaker 2: they're very controlled about their image only because I think, 968 00:42:24,394 --> 00:42:26,114 Speaker 2: but I think it's more controlled in terms of like 969 00:42:26,234 --> 00:42:28,674 Speaker 2: holding things back. When people say like they're doing this 970 00:42:28,754 --> 00:42:30,634 Speaker 2: for publicity, they're doing that for publicity, it's like they 971 00:42:30,674 --> 00:42:33,114 Speaker 2: don't need it. They don't need any publicity around their 972 00:42:33,194 --> 00:42:36,674 Speaker 2: relationship or their projects. He obviously wants publicity for his film, 973 00:42:37,194 --> 00:42:39,794 Speaker 2: and so he'll go all out for like publicity stunts 974 00:42:39,794 --> 00:42:42,194 Speaker 2: for the movie. But everything they do on the red 975 00:42:42,234 --> 00:42:45,354 Speaker 2: carpet is quite restrained, rather than being like how can 976 00:42:45,394 --> 00:42:48,314 Speaker 2: we walk to get extra photos because they don't need to. 977 00:42:48,754 --> 00:42:51,034 Speaker 2: They already have the biggest amount of fame you can 978 00:42:51,074 --> 00:42:52,593 Speaker 2: have for a relationship at the moment. 979 00:42:52,674 --> 00:42:54,913 Speaker 1: Well you see that with all those really big A lists, 980 00:42:55,034 --> 00:42:57,034 Speaker 1: they don't really need to do anything Like not out 981 00:42:57,074 --> 00:42:59,714 Speaker 1: of DiCaprio looks like you just roll out of better 982 00:43:00,234 --> 00:43:02,993 Speaker 1: most probably he literally I think he wears the same 983 00:43:03,194 --> 00:43:05,994 Speaker 1: tuxedo to every single event, and you do you know 984 00:43:06,074 --> 00:43:09,234 Speaker 1: what he's gonna chucker. Karl Stefanovic can then admit that 985 00:43:09,274 --> 00:43:10,594 Speaker 1: he's been wearing the same suit. 986 00:43:10,434 --> 00:43:12,274 Speaker 2: Took every award show for the last time. I'm sure 987 00:43:12,314 --> 00:43:14,154 Speaker 2: he would, because he's a creature of habit, and I'm 988 00:43:14,154 --> 00:43:16,433 Speaker 2: sure he just liked his suit. And he goes there 989 00:43:16,474 --> 00:43:18,274 Speaker 2: and he puts his head down, and then he leaves. 990 00:43:18,714 --> 00:43:21,434 Speaker 2: One last couple that I didn't see walking together that 991 00:43:21,554 --> 00:43:23,874 Speaker 2: they were there just to finish us off, is Kristen 992 00:43:23,954 --> 00:43:26,714 Speaker 2: Bell and dak Sheppard. So they're an interesting couple because 993 00:43:26,754 --> 00:43:28,954 Speaker 2: they're a Jewel nominee couple for the night. So she 994 00:43:29,154 --> 00:43:32,154 Speaker 2: is nominated for Nobody Wants This in the Best Actress 995 00:43:32,154 --> 00:43:35,034 Speaker 2: in a Comedy category, and he is nominated along with 996 00:43:35,074 --> 00:43:38,434 Speaker 2: Monica Padman for their podcast Armchair Expert, and it is 997 00:43:38,514 --> 00:43:42,554 Speaker 2: the first year that podcasts are involved in the Golden Globes. 998 00:43:42,994 --> 00:43:45,314 Speaker 2: And they're both looking super chic, like he's got the 999 00:43:45,354 --> 00:43:48,314 Speaker 2: black suit on, she's got the black, silky one shoulder 1000 00:43:48,354 --> 00:43:51,714 Speaker 2: strapless gown. But interestingly, I don't think they're doing a 1001 00:43:51,754 --> 00:43:53,873 Speaker 2: lot of interviews. I'm sure they're doing a few and 1002 00:43:53,874 --> 00:43:56,114 Speaker 2: they'll come out later. But I saw Kristen Bell running 1003 00:43:56,234 --> 00:44:00,234 Speaker 2: solo across the photography, like main part of the red carpet, 1004 00:44:00,554 --> 00:44:02,474 Speaker 2: and she was talking about how crazy hot it was 1005 00:44:02,514 --> 00:44:04,473 Speaker 2: and fanning herself. But this is the first time we've 1006 00:44:04,474 --> 00:44:06,394 Speaker 2: seen them together since that recent interview. 1007 00:44:06,474 --> 00:44:10,393 Speaker 1: Blew up that we spoke about it last week. Well, 1008 00:44:10,474 --> 00:44:14,354 Speaker 1: you were still recovering from your burgie. You were not 1009 00:44:14,394 --> 00:44:16,554 Speaker 1: feeling very well last week, but yet we spoke about 1010 00:44:16,674 --> 00:44:21,714 Speaker 1: Dax and Kristen and the share moment. It's really become 1011 00:44:21,794 --> 00:44:24,314 Speaker 1: a very very big talking point, particularly on social so 1012 00:44:24,314 --> 00:44:26,794 Speaker 1: i'veencing a lot of commentary on like TikTok and stuff, 1013 00:44:27,074 --> 00:44:30,873 Speaker 1: people basically going he hates her yea is the top line. 1014 00:44:31,034 --> 00:44:32,794 Speaker 2: That is what people I don't know. There's obviously a 1015 00:44:32,834 --> 00:44:34,393 Speaker 2: lot to unpack and everyone so I guess listen to 1016 00:44:34,434 --> 00:44:36,114 Speaker 2: the podcast and make their own thoughts about it. But 1017 00:44:36,274 --> 00:44:38,074 Speaker 2: I just thought it was interesting because for so many 1018 00:44:38,194 --> 00:44:42,393 Speaker 2: years they were Hollywood's ultimate ultimate golden couple. Everyone loved them, 1019 00:44:42,474 --> 00:44:44,274 Speaker 2: No one could get enough of their banter and their 1020 00:44:44,314 --> 00:44:47,034 Speaker 2: relationship so much to the point that they monetized it 1021 00:44:47,074 --> 00:44:49,674 Speaker 2: and did commercials together. And they launched his podcast with 1022 00:44:49,754 --> 00:44:52,034 Speaker 2: an interview between the two of them, and everyone was 1023 00:44:52,074 --> 00:44:53,953 Speaker 2: obsessed with them, and even though they kept saying we're 1024 00:44:53,954 --> 00:44:56,433 Speaker 2: not a perfect couple, were really messy, people didn't want 1025 00:44:56,434 --> 00:44:58,514 Speaker 2: to hear that, and they just loved the idea of 1026 00:44:58,634 --> 00:45:01,034 Speaker 2: them and them being so cute see and loved them 1027 00:45:01,034 --> 00:45:03,714 Speaker 2: walking red carpets together. But this is the first really 1028 00:45:03,794 --> 00:45:06,474 Speaker 2: big award show they've done since the two big scandals 1029 00:45:06,554 --> 00:45:10,234 Speaker 2: about their relationship. So one was the anniversary post where 1030 00:45:10,674 --> 00:45:13,033 Speaker 2: Kristin Bell posted, and it was just before Nobody Wants 1031 00:45:13,074 --> 00:45:15,834 Speaker 2: The Season two came out, posted about Dak saying like, 1032 00:45:16,074 --> 00:45:18,794 Speaker 2: I would never kill you, even though I could. I 1033 00:45:19,074 --> 00:45:20,714 Speaker 2: love you so much. I would never not even I 1034 00:45:20,754 --> 00:45:22,634 Speaker 2: love you so much. She's just basically like, she's like, 1035 00:45:22,674 --> 00:45:24,594 Speaker 2: happy anniversary to the man who once said to me, 1036 00:45:24,834 --> 00:45:26,714 Speaker 2: I could kill you, but I never would. And that 1037 00:45:26,954 --> 00:45:29,194 Speaker 2: blew up in such such a crazy way, and I 1038 00:45:29,274 --> 00:45:31,393 Speaker 2: don't think she's ever addressed it that I've seen, And 1039 00:45:31,514 --> 00:45:34,914 Speaker 2: so that died down, and then just before the Golden Globes, 1040 00:45:35,034 --> 00:45:38,234 Speaker 2: the share moment came up with her saying like there 1041 00:45:38,314 --> 00:45:39,873 Speaker 2: must be something in you that I don't see that 1042 00:45:39,994 --> 00:45:42,354 Speaker 2: Kristin likes you, kind of echoing a sentiment that has 1043 00:45:42,394 --> 00:45:44,114 Speaker 2: been out in the world for a long time, and 1044 00:45:44,194 --> 00:45:46,154 Speaker 2: so this is the first time they've walked he red 1045 00:45:46,234 --> 00:45:47,994 Speaker 2: car but at a night that should have been like 1046 00:45:48,114 --> 00:45:51,074 Speaker 2: their big winner's night, and everyone's just looking at them 1047 00:45:51,114 --> 00:45:52,914 Speaker 2: being like, what are they going to say about the controversy. 1048 00:45:52,994 --> 00:45:55,714 Speaker 1: It's interesting. I can't remember the creator who posted it, 1049 00:45:55,794 --> 00:45:57,873 Speaker 1: so I apologize if I get this wrong, but they 1050 00:45:57,994 --> 00:46:02,033 Speaker 1: basically said Kristen Bell is the final boss of women 1051 00:46:02,074 --> 00:46:07,434 Speaker 1: who defend their husbands doing horrible things. So there's that 1052 00:46:07,714 --> 00:46:09,873 Speaker 1: trend of I don't know if you've seen this, of 1053 00:46:10,234 --> 00:46:12,873 Speaker 1: you know, someone doing something that a woman will post 1054 00:46:12,914 --> 00:46:14,514 Speaker 1: on My husband did this. He doesn't want to, like, 1055 00:46:14,914 --> 00:46:16,634 Speaker 1: he won't put the washing away, and then people in 1056 00:46:16,674 --> 00:46:19,714 Speaker 1: the comments go, dude, this guy's not not it. He's awful. 1057 00:46:19,794 --> 00:46:20,354 Speaker 2: That's horrible. 1058 00:46:20,514 --> 00:46:22,794 Speaker 1: Leave him, leave him, leave him. Then the next day 1059 00:46:23,034 --> 00:46:24,834 Speaker 1: they jump on and they go, oh, no, my husband, 1060 00:46:24,834 --> 00:46:26,274 Speaker 1: and then they defend their husband. I don't know, he's 1061 00:46:26,274 --> 00:46:28,873 Speaker 1: actually a really good guy. Yeah, So there's that, and 1062 00:46:28,994 --> 00:46:32,794 Speaker 1: it's like partners defending their husband's horrible behavior even though 1063 00:46:32,834 --> 00:46:34,714 Speaker 1: they complained about them in the first place. 1064 00:46:34,834 --> 00:46:36,514 Speaker 2: Well that's the thing too, which I thought is interesting 1065 00:46:36,594 --> 00:46:38,474 Speaker 2: I'm always a little on the fence with the Kristin 1066 00:46:38,514 --> 00:46:41,794 Speaker 2: bellen Duck Shepherd hate is that I'm not fully convinced 1067 00:46:42,194 --> 00:46:43,834 Speaker 2: that a mean thing is we just don't know now. 1068 00:46:43,874 --> 00:46:45,913 Speaker 2: Of course we don't know, but we just get more 1069 00:46:45,994 --> 00:46:47,674 Speaker 2: access to them than we do to any other A 1070 00:46:47,794 --> 00:46:50,674 Speaker 2: List couples, just because of that podcast and how much 1071 00:46:50,754 --> 00:46:52,634 Speaker 2: they will sometimes come on and talk for an hour 1072 00:46:53,034 --> 00:46:54,994 Speaker 2: about you know, sometimes she'll join them for like a 1073 00:46:55,074 --> 00:46:57,154 Speaker 2: fact check, or sometimes she's just been on the podcast 1074 00:46:57,234 --> 00:47:00,234 Speaker 2: a few times, or he'll tell stories, or she'll come 1075 00:47:00,274 --> 00:47:02,514 Speaker 2: into the room. Like, we just have way more access 1076 00:47:02,554 --> 00:47:04,114 Speaker 2: to them, so we see a lot more of their 1077 00:47:04,194 --> 00:47:06,834 Speaker 2: dirty laundry than we do of other couples. And sometimes 1078 00:47:06,874 --> 00:47:09,074 Speaker 2: I'm like, is it even that bat or we're just 1079 00:47:09,154 --> 00:47:11,754 Speaker 2: not used to seeing it, or are there always crazy 1080 00:47:11,834 --> 00:47:14,314 Speaker 2: red flags? Because they definitely are red flags are bad behavior, 1081 00:47:14,354 --> 00:47:16,354 Speaker 2: but it's also so hard to tell because again, even 1082 00:47:16,394 --> 00:47:17,873 Speaker 2: though it feels like we're getting a lot, we're still 1083 00:47:17,914 --> 00:47:19,834 Speaker 2: only seeing a tiny little snippet. And I think that 1084 00:47:19,914 --> 00:47:20,714 Speaker 2: their relationship. 1085 00:47:21,194 --> 00:47:23,514 Speaker 1: I think the problem with it is, though, is that 1086 00:47:23,954 --> 00:47:27,234 Speaker 1: they've opened this box, right, They're the ones that divulge 1087 00:47:27,234 --> 00:47:29,914 Speaker 1: the information first, So now they're trying to put the 1088 00:47:29,954 --> 00:47:31,754 Speaker 1: cat back in the bag and it's gone, you know, 1089 00:47:32,234 --> 00:47:33,114 Speaker 1: the horses. 1090 00:47:32,794 --> 00:47:35,913 Speaker 2: Bultlah, Yeah, exactly, that that story is out there now. 1091 00:47:36,034 --> 00:47:38,393 Speaker 2: I'd also be wondering, again we haven't seen if maybe 1092 00:47:38,434 --> 00:47:40,474 Speaker 2: they've recorded some since we've been in this room, but 1093 00:47:40,794 --> 00:47:43,954 Speaker 2: I'd be interested if her publicist had told the press 1094 00:47:44,034 --> 00:47:46,194 Speaker 2: not to ask her a question about that, which I 1095 00:47:46,234 --> 00:47:48,714 Speaker 2: almost kind of understand because I'm really interested in her 1096 00:47:48,794 --> 00:47:51,034 Speaker 2: being interviewed about it by a source that's not her 1097 00:47:51,114 --> 00:47:53,594 Speaker 2: husband and having to sort of even just been able 1098 00:47:53,634 --> 00:47:55,634 Speaker 2: to address it in her own words, in her own space. 1099 00:47:55,874 --> 00:47:58,354 Speaker 2: But I don't think a red carpet with how crazy 1100 00:47:58,434 --> 00:48:01,154 Speaker 2: that environment is and how quick those answers have to be, 1101 00:48:01,274 --> 00:48:02,714 Speaker 2: I don't think, and you're about to go in and 1102 00:48:02,794 --> 00:48:04,674 Speaker 2: like potentially win an award. I just don't think that's 1103 00:48:04,714 --> 00:48:07,073 Speaker 2: the environment for a question like that. But I also 1104 00:48:07,234 --> 00:48:08,953 Speaker 2: think if you're a journalist and you have Kristen Bell 1105 00:48:09,034 --> 00:48:11,234 Speaker 2: in front of her and she's been in a controversy, 1106 00:48:11,314 --> 00:48:12,873 Speaker 2: it's kind of your job to ask her so. 1107 00:48:13,434 --> 00:48:15,913 Speaker 1: But as you know, when you're on those things, those 1108 00:48:15,994 --> 00:48:19,553 Speaker 1: prs can be brutal. I think if they pre warned 1109 00:48:19,714 --> 00:48:22,714 Speaker 1: journalists do not ask this question, and the journalists started 1110 00:48:22,794 --> 00:48:25,154 Speaker 1: to ask, I would not be surprised if I saw 1111 00:48:25,234 --> 00:48:27,274 Speaker 1: a publicist take them by the hand and pull them 1112 00:48:27,314 --> 00:48:27,714 Speaker 1: away from you. 1113 00:48:27,874 --> 00:48:29,913 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, I can almost. 1114 00:48:29,634 --> 00:48:32,674 Speaker 1: Guarantee or the publicists would stand in front of the shot. 1115 00:48:32,914 --> 00:48:35,234 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Oh my god, so much to say that. We 1116 00:48:35,274 --> 00:48:37,873 Speaker 2: haven't even got to the cey so much so we've 1117 00:48:37,914 --> 00:48:40,754 Speaker 2: been talking for agen exactly. So we'll end the podcast 1118 00:48:40,794 --> 00:48:42,834 Speaker 2: here because we're going to go watch the Golden Globes now. 1119 00:48:42,954 --> 00:48:44,794 Speaker 2: But yes, make sure you tune back in tomorrow because 1120 00:48:44,794 --> 00:48:47,393 Speaker 2: we're be doing a Golden Globe special with any of 1121 00:48:47,594 --> 00:48:49,474 Speaker 2: with all the big awards, with all the big moments, 1122 00:48:49,514 --> 00:48:52,034 Speaker 2: any drama behind the scenes, it'll all be there. 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