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Speaker 1: So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast.

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Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders

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Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on From Mamma Mia. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to this bill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura

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Speaker 2: Brodnick and I'm emm.

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Speaker 1: And on today's show, it's the breakout.

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Speaker 2: We knew that was coming, but it still cuts through

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Speaker 2: my heart like a knife. I've got to say, I'm

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Speaker 2: excited the divorce of Jennifer Lopez and Ben Athlete. So

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Speaker 2: a lot of really surprising details have come out of

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Speaker 2: the court filings that we made public, and also some

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Speaker 2: news about their future has come out that's going to

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Speaker 2: make things wildly uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to get into that.

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Speaker 3: But first, earlier this month, Taylor Swift had to cancel

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Speaker 3: three of her Era tour shows in Vienna due to

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Speaker 3: a planned terrorist attack. I don't think we actually covered

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Speaker 1: You're away, there's a lot going on.

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Speaker 3: So to break it down, she was doing her Ears

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Speaker 3: tour in Europe. As it came to her Vienna leg

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Speaker 3: of the tour, all three of those shows had to

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Speaker 3: be canceled over a planned terroist attack. Two men were

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Speaker 3: arrested off the back of that. It was one of

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Speaker 3: those situations that was just unfortunate all around. Obviously not

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Speaker 3: as unfortunate as if a terrorist attack did take place,

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Speaker 3: but you would have seen on socials and on TikTok

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Speaker 3: fans just gathered in the street and were kind of

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Speaker 3: like singing her songs, getting together. It was quite beautiful

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Speaker 3: looking at it from the outside. So she finally has

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Speaker 3: made a statement on this. She posted to her Instagram

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Speaker 3: kind of an ode to Europe because she's just finished

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Speaker 3: a whole leg of her Europe tour, and then she

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Speaker 3: talked about Vienna as well. She said having our Vienna

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Speaker 3: shows canceled was devastating. The reason for the cancelations filled

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Speaker 3: me with a new sense of fear and a tremendous

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Speaker 3: amount of guilt because so many people had planned on

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Speaker 3: coming to those shows. But I was also so grateful

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Speaker 3: to the authorities because thanks to them, we were grieving

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Speaker 3: concerts and not lives. Let me be very clear, I

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Speaker 3: am not going to speak about something publicly if I

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Speaker 3: think doing so might provoke those who want to harm

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Speaker 3: the fans who come to my shows. My priority was

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Speaker 3: finishing our European tours safely, and it is with great

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Speaker 3: relief that I can say we did that. So obviously,

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Speaker 3: she was terrified after what happened in Vienna, and she

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Speaker 3: again in London, she had like extra security, she worked

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Speaker 3: with authorities to make sure nothing happened. It also reminded

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Speaker 3: me of when Ariana Grande had her concerts and like

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Speaker 3: look of seeing like someone who I guess kind of

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Speaker 3: like heaps of people who would get worldwide coverage, and

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Speaker 3: seeing that that's still happening twenty twenty four, which Taylor Swift,

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Speaker 3: who we know has so much security and stuff that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: I really understand the fans devastation around this, because you've

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Speaker 2: to Vienna and had non refundable trips, and I understand

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Speaker 2: being canceled and on that, Like, it was very clear

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Speaker 2: behind the scenes that she and her team were working

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Speaker 2: very very closely with anti terrorism and they obviously had

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Speaker 2: escalated the situation. I mean, there's so many things happening

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Speaker 3: I also feel like her line that she said we

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Speaker 3: I think she's kind of alluding to the idea like

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Speaker 3: like to put in perspective like this was a great outcome,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which I think fans know, but I understand. I

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Speaker 3: My TikTok feeders was a bit intense during that time,

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Speaker 3: I think this was the better disappointment to have.

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Speaker 2: And after months of scrutiny, Jennifer Lopez is sufficiently filed

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Speaker 4: Ben Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck, after months of speculation,

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Speaker 4: the pair are calling it quits. The singer filing for

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Speaker 4: divorce after two years of marriage, exactly two years of marriage.

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Speaker 2: So we just needed twenty four hours to process this

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Speaker 2: all our information. And that is the fact that yesterday

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Speaker 2: it was confirmed that Jennifer Lopez has filed for divorce

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Speaker 3: I am so annoyed, and not by the reason why

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Speaker 3: was talking to Ash London, and it was the first

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Speaker 3: I'm enjoying the little updates we get, like they're hanging

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Speaker 2: I mean, well, then now it's here, there's still some

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Speaker 2: was Jennifer Lopez who filed the divorce documents in the

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Speaker 2: La County Superior Court on Tuesday, August twenty, which was

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Speaker 2: the two year anniversary of their second wedding when they

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Speaker 2: had the big blowout three day extravaganza at his house

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Speaker 1: Do you remember this?

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Speaker 2: Wait, how many weddings have they had to first time over,

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Speaker 2: like twenty years ago whatever? It was, Okay, they were

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Speaker 1: They got back together.

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Speaker 2: They eloped to Las Vegas in July twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 2: and everyone just thought that that was so chic and

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Speaker 2: They got ready in these two dingy bathrooms at like

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Speaker 3: Charming when it's celebrity to do it. But if I

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Speaker 3: I'd still think that was sh as shit I do.

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Speaker 3: I think Las Vegas weddings are making it be coming.

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Speaker 1: I'd make fun of my friends if they did that.

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Speaker 2: And then they had this moment, all these photos came out.

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Speaker 2: Everyone just saw that's so romantic and beautiful. They just

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Speaker 2: Then they had this blowout four days that's right. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: she had multiple dresses. She looked gorgeous, but it just

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Speaker 2: didn't like the hype didn't land. I remember a video

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Speaker 2: got leaked, so she serenaded him and she was singing

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Speaker 2: and she was really upset.

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Speaker 1: So we got to it. I love that, and.

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Speaker 2: Then it seemed like they were, you know, pretty good

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Speaker 2: for a year or so. She released the new album, then.

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Speaker 1: She alone, yeah yeah again, this is me now.

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Speaker 2: And then she reallyased the film that went with it,

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Speaker 2: with the Hummingbirds and her love story and all that

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Speaker 2: like a story who.

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Speaker 3: Her marketing strategist was, because I would have told her

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was a big swing, but it was

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Speaker 2: what she wanted to do in the moment, and it

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Speaker 1: So now too well, I liked for yourself.

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Speaker 2: We did a whole episode on that movie about and

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Speaker 2: the visual album.

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Speaker 4: Was very important.

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Speaker 2: Lot so because she's filed the documents and have now

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Speaker 2: been obtained by a number of outlets, including TMZ, who

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Speaker 2: to get this information and make it public. A lot

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Speaker 2: of information about their divorce has come out. So, as

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Speaker 2: he said, she has filed on the two year anniversary

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Speaker 2: Have so that she filed on the two year date

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Speaker 2: So she deliberately filed on that date so it would.

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Speaker 2: I almost believe that of her, because I feel like

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Speaker 2: and I will move on with my chapter now, like

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent. Fiel like that's how she would look

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Speaker 2: at it. And again, respect if that's how you want

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Speaker 2: to play it. So you have to list the date

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Speaker 2: for a certain amount of time to even get the

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Speaker 2: divorce proceedings to start. So the date of separation, it

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Speaker 2: was incorrectly reported at first at the day of their

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Speaker 2: separation was the day of the met gala, of the

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Speaker 2: last metgala of which she was one of the honorary chairs, because.

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Speaker 1: He did a day before.

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Speaker 2: But it's actually a few days beforehand. So she has

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Speaker 2: listed April twenty six, which is only a few days

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Speaker 3: Interesting, so maybe what happened was he didn't like her

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Speaker 2: I mean sure, what we do know from people who

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Speaker 2: list these things is like it's not always one hundred

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Speaker 2: to pick to show that you've been apart for a

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Speaker 1: Of time, so they have to agree upon the date.

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Speaker 2: Well, she's filed the paper. It's also interesting is that

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Speaker 3: As in, like she doesn't want someone else, like she

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Speaker 3: They didn't have a prenups. Even if she did want support,

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Speaker 2: Oh? Hard to say, Like Dickon, she does, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: News got divorced today. Tell me I thought she's got

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Speaker 2: And we've got to say, we've got to take those online.

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Speaker 1: But I would say that was true.

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Speaker 3: So them not having a prena actually does her a disservice.

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Speaker 2: Well, that means she could have to pay him spousial support.

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Speaker 2: But again, I don't think it's going that way.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I mean I'd love some more drama,

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Speaker 3: Think you me, you live.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So when I say they're coming back together, I

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Speaker 1: I would love that. Guys go around three third times the.

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Speaker 2: They find that so wildly romantic, they would get married

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Speaker 2: together in some way release. Their names will be intertwined

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Speaker 1: They made a movie. They made a movie together.

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Speaker 2: Well spoiler alert, they have two movies coming out together

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Speaker 1: This is cringe.

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Speaker 3: Imagine having to push out a movie that you made

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Speaker 2: I think they actually really enjoyed working together because even

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Speaker 2: of all times Jeerly, apparently they do have like quite

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Speaker 3: You're going to tell people you have a creative connection

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm just saying they made two movies, so they

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Speaker 2: put their money where their mouths. Anyway, So Unstoppable their movie,

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Speaker 2: So that movie way, it's going to be better than

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Speaker 3: I want to go, so we need a pitch that

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Speaker 2: So it's premiering at the Film Festival, which is very prestigious,

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Speaker 1: Mad I reckon they're going to put mad Da in

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Speaker 2: It's going to be like they don't worry Darling press

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Speaker 1: But I think she is. She's done some good roles.

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Speaker 1: Well, we don't know. This is like a prestige film.

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Speaker 2: If it's premiering at Toronto and she's, you know, one

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, you know it's Ben Affleck's

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Speaker 3: Do you think he's gonna come as sad Ben or

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Speaker 2: Maybe he's gonna be just like walking down with his

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Speaker 1: It it just seeped into his back.

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Speaker 2: It's re emerged onto his back, and he's walking down

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'd be so interested to see what happens.

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Speaker 3: Their kids, and they'll use their kids as afer they'll

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Speaker 2: Maybe they just won't do interviews. But again, what's the

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Speaker 1: This is not your stress to take, like me waiting

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Speaker 2: Yes, Then they have a second movie called Kiss of

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Speaker 1: You it's the sequel to Madam Web.

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Speaker 2: You don't know what the movie is about yet that

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Speaker 2: And this is why I've seen so many people around

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Speaker 2: bringing them into this lie. Filing legal documents that means

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Speaker 2: promote Unstoppable on the Toronto Film First av RD carpet,

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Speaker 2: we could have done that a different way, Like this

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Speaker 2: A publicity stunt is when two people can come in

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Speaker 2: is like Harry Styles and em Rata kissing in front

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Speaker 2: of that bar, you know what I mean. That's no

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Speaker 2: one gets hurt out of that. They both got publicity

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Speaker 2: for the things that were coming up. It was clearly

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Speaker 2: open them up to any kind of ridicule or intensity

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Speaker 2: or put their families. It's do you know what I

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Speaker 2: huge kind of say what it is, it's embarrassing. See again,

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's embarrassing. It's so it's honestly.

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Speaker 3: Because firstly they got back together with the next number

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Speaker 3: one embarrassment. You don't do that, and they became public

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Speaker 3: very quickly second embarrassment, and then they break up after

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Speaker 1: It's so weird. They're like, we'll have that on.

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Speaker 3: The internet forever, and that is so embarrassing. Like they

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Speaker 3: can't even just elite photos of their Instagram feed, like

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Speaker 3: we have it, We've seen it.

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Speaker 1: I know. I'm not saying you're wrong.

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Speaker 2: I guess I just look at it in a different way,

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Speaker 2: and it's not even a sappy way where I'm just like,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, you have to have a chance of love.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, that's fine, but I just think

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Speaker 2: and maybe they just need the second chance to know

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Speaker 2: like it definitely wasn't going to work. It's like when

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Speaker 1: done that, but in private. I don't do anything in

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Speaker 2: I just think that when you look at especially Jennifer Lopez,

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Speaker 2: of the public side of this relationship, and that's fair enough.

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Speaker 2: I just think when you look at someone like Jennifer Lopez,

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Speaker 2: iconic Hollywood old school personality almost who like her life

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Speaker 2: is just as wild and interesting and big as the

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Speaker 2: content she creates. And that's just the kind of person

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Speaker 2: she is. We can't judge her for that. That's why

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Speaker 2: she's a superstar.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I think she could have done it

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Speaker 3: more tastefully if I'm being honest, like the whole like

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Speaker 3: the music video and then the songs and then the

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Speaker 3: album and then the movies.

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Speaker 1: Like she Got Carried Away, Go Big or Go Home.

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Speaker 3: My kids are gonna be like, hey, remember when mom

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Speaker 3: did that thing with that guy, not two seconds.

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Speaker 1: Even the most intense thing they've seen from her. Anyway.

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Speaker 2: I hope those two crazy kids are gonna be k

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Speaker 2: through this. I think them and their millions will be

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Speaker 2: and then go forward to Unstoppable in cinemas this December.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today.

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Speaker 3: If you want more content about Benefit canceled. Our Mummia

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Speaker 3: podcast that is hosted by Claire and Jesse Stevens did

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Speaker 3: an episode on literally predicting their divorce. We will link

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Speaker 3: that in our show notes. We will see you back

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Speaker 3: here in your podcast speed at three pm tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Bye bye, Lan