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Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mama Mia acknowledges

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Speaker 1: is recorded on. Don't be afraid of hydration, like you

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Speaker 1: need that, But the essence for me is like a

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Speaker 1: beautiful step of just like building up that hydration as

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Speaker 2: Makeup is my therapy. I'm in love, I'm obsess and

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Speaker 2: I don't even feel guilty of body. Hello and welcome

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Speaker 2: to you Beauty, the daily podcast for Your Face. I'm

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Speaker 2: Aaron Dougherty and welcome to the formula. Every week I

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Speaker 2: sit down with celebs and some of the biggest names

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Speaker 2: in beauty and take a look into their skincare routines. Today,

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Speaker 2: we're sitting down with Ali Whittle. She's a beauty, fashion

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Speaker 2: former journalist and editor. In fact, many moons ago, Ali

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Speaker 2: and I worked together at TV Week when I was

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Speaker 2: an intern. Allie now works in the digital space, consulting, writing,

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Speaker 2: and creating content for some of the biggest players in

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Speaker 2: the beauty industry, from international to local brands like Elizabeth Arden, Mecha,

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Speaker 2: Laurel Fresh Beauty. The list goes on. Take a glance

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Speaker 2: at her Instagram and you'll see Ali is a serious

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Speaker 2: skincare lover, and with skin like curs, you can be

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Speaker 2: sure she knows the ingredients and products to dial up

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Speaker 2: the glow factor and achieve your best skin. Yet. Today

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Speaker 2: we dive into her skincare routine and find out why

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Speaker 2: hydration is your best friend even if you have acnefro

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Speaker 2: that's on sale now inkolls. Yeah, such beautiful skin. But

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Speaker 2: how Allie, Hello, welcome to you, beauty. I'm so excited

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Speaker 2: to have you here. Me too, I'm so excited to

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Speaker 2: be here. If our listeners could see my face right now.

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Speaker 2: I know Allie from way back. Allie used to be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just much not work out. How long nine and

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Speaker 1: So I'm in my thirties and i'd say more combination.

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Speaker 1: I used to be super oily. But now I'm I

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Speaker 1: guess as you get older, like it all kind of

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Speaker 1: congestion prone. I'm a massive product junkie, like love skincare makeup.

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Speaker 2: You know, well, you're in the right place because we

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Speaker 2: can't wait to get into your full routine. And what

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Speaker 2: kind of product do you use? Yes, I wanted to

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Speaker 1: Oh? I feel like Emma Lewisham is creating things that

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Speaker 2: Ema Luisium is one brand that does it very well

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Speaker 1: Because I am more oily, combo I cleanse product wise

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Speaker 1: But at the moment, I'm using this fresh soy.

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Speaker 1: Yes, just find that it helps really clean my skin

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Speaker 1: Call out the Meca Cosmetica. They're vitamin C. They're in

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Speaker 1: the ultraceuticals Ultra b too hydrating serum. It's such a

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Speaker 1: It's just really hydrating and does what it's meant to do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Where do you start either an oil or a bomb

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Biodema invented my cellar water because of like the

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Speaker 2: Honestly, the amount of times I'll double cleansed and then

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Speaker 2: I'll go sometimes I'm just going to wipe over it

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Speaker 2: with my cellar water and then you're like, what they'd

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Speaker 2: still make up it don't.

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Speaker 1: That's haunting, that haunts the thought of that I can't.

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Speaker 1: I'm very thorough.

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Speaker 2: Do you move on to cerums or where do you

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Speaker 2: go from here?

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Speaker 1: So I might do a mask, but that would probably

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Speaker 1: once a week, maybe twice again, depending how my skin is,

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Speaker 1: what I feel like it needs. What you go to

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Speaker 1: one from Ultraceuticals. I believe it's called their like purifying mask,

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Speaker 1: but it's again the clay mask world. I feel like

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Speaker 1: I grew up with ones that would like it dry

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Speaker 1: and like your face yeah, yeah, exactly, and then you

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Speaker 1: know the tight feeling after you wash it off, whereas

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Speaker 1: this one, whatever goodness is in it, it does dry down,

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Speaker 1: but it doesn't like fully dried down. It's very comfortable

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Speaker 1: on the face. And I think that one has like

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Speaker 1: mandelic acid in it again and salilic thing. Yes, well yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's also like self care, you know, just doing

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Speaker 1: a little something extra. I've got the time, I'll pop

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Speaker 1: it on and I feel like I've achieved something. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if I'm not doing a mask, I am obsessed with

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Speaker 1: the is clinical their peel.

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Speaker 2: Pads active peel pads. Ye have you tried. I know

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Speaker 2: I have them at home.

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Speaker 1: Okay, if you're not using them, I want them.

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Speaker 2: You know, to me, I know they're pretty. You can

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Speaker 2: get like a full box, and I think the box

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Speaker 2: you get like fifty fifteen and it's like ninety two dollars,

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Speaker 2: But I think it's more than that, is it?

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Speaker 1: It's like maybe one hundred and eighty?

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Speaker 2: That hurts my soulf? I no, okay, I can't live

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Speaker 2: without them. So there's like how many sashets? Is it?

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Speaker 2: Is it like three different?

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Speaker 1: There's a one and a two. It's like similar to

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Speaker 1: the doctor Dennis Gross. So if you've used those, I'd

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Speaker 1: say this is like that tenfold. It's like just more effective.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: People swear by those. And nothing against Dennis. He's fantastic.

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Speaker 1: To Dennis, we love you. Paved the way. But whatever

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Speaker 1: is in the ice clinical literally blew me away.

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Speaker 2: For me.

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Speaker 1: I feel like there's like a menthol sort of something

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Speaker 1: in it. It does feel very like cooling, but it

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Speaker 1: feels spicy when you apply it. The first peel the

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Speaker 1: first part of the peel, So is.

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Speaker 2: That like an actual peel pad that you just like swite?

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Speaker 1: It's like a slashet. Yeah. So the first one it

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Speaker 1: does for me, it feels like, yeah, my face might

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Speaker 1: fall off, but then it really quickly cools down. I'll

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Speaker 1: go through that twenty seconds of like whoo.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I need to get my hands on that and

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Speaker 2: actually use it because that sounds delightful.

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Speaker 1: Oh can't live without them, Oh can't. Something I have

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Speaker 1: started doing as soon as I found the product is

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Speaker 1: the TBH Acne Hack pimple cream as a spot tree

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Speaker 1: as a spot treatment, and it's the best blemish treatment

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Speaker 1: I've found. And it's just at the supermarket now, Like

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Speaker 1: I was ordering it off of their website, which obviously

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Speaker 1: is fine, but I just love that I can go

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Speaker 1: to my coals or whatever and it's right there, and

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Speaker 1: they go on sale there too, and it's non irritating.

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Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes I don't know what your experience

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Speaker 1: with pimple but lemish creams is, but often they can

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Speaker 1: leave like big red marks, They can be too harsh.

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Speaker 1: There's some magic in it and it effectively pretty rapidly

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Speaker 1: gets rid of the issue, or much quicker than if

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Speaker 1: you're left your own devices and your skin is doing

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Speaker 1: its thing.

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Speaker 2: So I got to get my hands on one of them. Yeah, immediately,

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Speaker 2: I'll catch me and coals after this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't blame you if it's on sale.

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Speaker 2: Stuck up, get a few hit, you've made one of

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Speaker 2: the greatest discoveries.

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Speaker 1: Of all time, or miss never again never.

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Speaker 2: I want to know skincare technique or ingredient that you

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Speaker 2: love and one that you hate.

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Speaker 1: I guess I love BHA and retinol. When you have

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Speaker 1: acne prone skin, we just want things that work, and

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Speaker 1: things work. Every second or third night, I'm doing a

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Speaker 1: retinal and I am just about to finish one of

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Speaker 1: the Medicate.

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Speaker 2: Crystal Crystal retina.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they have a whole line up. I feel like

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Speaker 1: it starts from zero to ten. I've graduated to ten.

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Speaker 1: I'm at the top. Wow, I think that's I'm making.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm hanging over the low section.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So Medicate is brilliant. But then I went

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Speaker 1: to Paris and I went to the pharmacy because of course,

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Speaker 1: and I got the over the counter A three one.

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Speaker 2: Three would you like?

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Speaker 1: Which is yet it's really great. I think that you

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Speaker 1: can use that as your first retinal. You don't have

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Speaker 1: to be an experienced with retinal to use that. One.

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Speaker 1: I had no irritation, no issues with that.

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Speaker 2: Tell me about what's on your hate list? Is there

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Speaker 2: a technique or like.

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Speaker 1: I guess, well, anything commoogenic and noncommonogenic?

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Speaker 2: Why do they exist?

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Speaker 1: I can't have things that are going to add more

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Speaker 1: to problems. Why would it exist if it makes sense?

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Speaker 1: So yeah, things that are non comedy.

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Speaker 2: Jenny, Well, Allie, thank you so much for coming in

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