1 00:00:10,745 --> 00:00:13,465 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. 2 00:00:13,945 --> 00:00:17,505 Speaker 2: Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 3 00:00:17,505 --> 00:00:19,545 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded. 4 00:00:19,105 --> 00:00:24,105 Speaker 1: On Makeup is My Therapy. I'm in love, I'm obsess 5 00:00:24,385 --> 00:00:27,145 Speaker 1: and I don't even feel jailty of body. 6 00:00:29,025 --> 00:00:33,425 Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to you Beauty the daily podcast for 7 00:00:33,665 --> 00:00:34,185 Speaker 3: your Face. 8 00:00:34,545 --> 00:00:35,825 Speaker 1: I'm Kiri Cels. 9 00:00:35,665 --> 00:00:38,625 Speaker 2: And I'm Lucy Neville and this is Beauty Besties where 10 00:00:38,665 --> 00:00:41,425 Speaker 2: Key and I two real life besties also beauty creators. 11 00:00:41,465 --> 00:00:44,265 Speaker 2: We talk about anything and everything to do with beauty 12 00:00:44,625 --> 00:00:47,145 Speaker 2: and give you our bougie and budget recommendations. 13 00:00:47,705 --> 00:00:52,185 Speaker 1: Now that we're all Bessie Leslie friends, best friends, best 14 00:00:52,225 --> 00:00:52,865 Speaker 1: you stick. 15 00:00:52,705 --> 00:00:55,345 Speaker 4: Together on the show Today, the pop star. 16 00:00:55,225 --> 00:00:59,345 Speaker 3: Aesthetic is back and we are into it. But first 17 00:00:59,705 --> 00:01:04,065 Speaker 3: TikTok teen skincare routines from today's routines to what we 18 00:01:04,145 --> 00:01:06,905 Speaker 3: did and what we actually recommend for the baby youths 19 00:01:06,905 --> 00:01:09,585 Speaker 3: of today. Lucy, firstly, give me the deal of what 20 00:01:09,985 --> 00:01:12,145 Speaker 3: is going on on tween beauty talk. 21 00:01:12,305 --> 00:01:15,265 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm sure you've seen the Sephora tween conversation happening 22 00:01:15,305 --> 00:01:17,465 Speaker 2: over the past year or so. So there's a start 23 00:01:17,505 --> 00:01:19,505 Speaker 2: that I saw in quite a few articles when I 24 00:01:19,545 --> 00:01:23,025 Speaker 2: was researching, but roughly sixty eight percent of a combined 25 00:01:23,185 --> 00:01:26,505 Speaker 2: gen Z and Alpha reportedly have a skincare routine. Wow, 26 00:01:26,585 --> 00:01:28,985 Speaker 2: I think about myself, like Jen Alpha is young man. 27 00:01:29,105 --> 00:01:30,705 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what my daughter is. 28 00:01:31,025 --> 00:01:33,305 Speaker 2: Skincare and beauty is a thing that they're obsessed with 29 00:01:33,345 --> 00:01:35,785 Speaker 2: in a way that we never really were. But the 30 00:01:35,825 --> 00:01:38,105 Speaker 2: difference is that they were born essentially with a smartphone 31 00:01:38,105 --> 00:01:41,465 Speaker 2: in their hand and all this access to information and aspiration. 32 00:01:41,665 --> 00:01:45,065 Speaker 2: Like me out sorry, they're watching beauty influencers and creators 33 00:01:45,065 --> 00:01:46,745 Speaker 2: and then they go off to Sephora and mecha. And 34 00:01:47,025 --> 00:01:50,185 Speaker 2: to be very clear, this segment is not me being snarky. 35 00:01:50,225 --> 00:01:52,105 Speaker 2: I honestly get it. And I think if I was 36 00:01:52,145 --> 00:01:54,225 Speaker 2: twelve and everyone in my life, all the people I 37 00:01:54,265 --> 00:01:56,905 Speaker 2: looked up to, my favorite celebrities, were talking about beauty 38 00:01:56,905 --> 00:01:59,105 Speaker 2: and skincare, guess where I'd be at Sephora begging my 39 00:01:59,145 --> 00:02:02,585 Speaker 2: parents to buy me expensive skincare. Like, I think, this 40 00:02:02,625 --> 00:02:05,665 Speaker 2: isn't new, the idea of an aspirational figure and wanting 41 00:02:05,705 --> 00:02:09,985 Speaker 2: to emulate that. It's just it's different now. These figures 42 00:02:10,025 --> 00:02:12,785 Speaker 2: aren't celebrities necessarily. The people just regular people in their 43 00:02:12,865 --> 00:02:14,865 Speaker 2: rooms doing skincare and then it's like, oh, okay, I've 44 00:02:14,905 --> 00:02:17,025 Speaker 2: got to do that too. So I think where this 45 00:02:17,105 --> 00:02:19,185 Speaker 2: can get a little bit dicey is how much the 46 00:02:19,385 --> 00:02:22,585 Speaker 2: like in products cost. Like I had a look at 47 00:02:22,625 --> 00:02:24,945 Speaker 2: most of the tween get Ready with Me videos on TikTok, 48 00:02:24,985 --> 00:02:28,705 Speaker 2: and they've got brands like Drunk Elephant, Geezu, Glossier, like 49 00:02:28,785 --> 00:02:31,425 Speaker 2: expensive brands, And I think that will put a lot 50 00:02:31,425 --> 00:02:34,985 Speaker 2: of pressure on parents, Yeah, because I remember my parents 51 00:02:35,025 --> 00:02:37,785 Speaker 2: always just saying to me like, oh so if key 52 00:02:37,865 --> 00:02:39,705 Speaker 2: had that, you've got to have that, like you know, 53 00:02:39,825 --> 00:02:46,145 Speaker 2: that comparison thing. But I see now tweens being all 54 00:02:46,145 --> 00:02:48,345 Speaker 2: over social media. You would feel left out right if 55 00:02:48,385 --> 00:02:51,145 Speaker 2: everyone had something and you didn't. The other thing is 56 00:02:51,185 --> 00:02:53,625 Speaker 2: that active ingredients in these products, like teen skin doesn't 57 00:02:53,625 --> 00:02:57,105 Speaker 2: need retinal, but when they see their favorite influencer talking 58 00:02:57,105 --> 00:03:00,185 Speaker 2: about retinal, like, it's not any different to us wearing 59 00:03:00,225 --> 00:03:01,865 Speaker 2: a tube top because Lindsay low One did and will 60 00:03:01,865 --> 00:03:02,305 Speaker 2: growing up. 61 00:03:02,465 --> 00:03:04,145 Speaker 3: Well, that's what I was going to say, Like, I 62 00:03:04,225 --> 00:03:08,265 Speaker 3: actually don't think this is any different from when we 63 00:03:08,345 --> 00:03:10,985 Speaker 3: were growing up, because I just think references with magazines, 64 00:03:11,425 --> 00:03:16,065 Speaker 3: so beauty editor recommendations and also advertisements like advertisements and 65 00:03:16,105 --> 00:03:21,065 Speaker 3: magazines asdvertisements on television, But I see so many similarities. 66 00:03:21,105 --> 00:03:24,545 Speaker 3: Because magazines were aspirational, there were always high and low options. 67 00:03:25,145 --> 00:03:26,825 Speaker 1: I mean any teen style. 68 00:03:26,865 --> 00:03:29,745 Speaker 3: Think about like the Revlon ads, like the cover Girl, 69 00:03:30,265 --> 00:03:33,145 Speaker 3: maybe Lene. All of them would use the hottest it 70 00:03:33,265 --> 00:03:36,705 Speaker 3: girl of the time, but the recommendations of the products 71 00:03:36,705 --> 00:03:40,145 Speaker 3: that we definitely didn't need have always been there. I 72 00:03:40,145 --> 00:03:42,425 Speaker 3: think the difference is that now teens can show off 73 00:03:42,465 --> 00:03:44,825 Speaker 3: their beauty cabinets, when before no one really. 74 00:03:44,745 --> 00:03:47,185 Speaker 1: Knew for sure what you did or didn't use. 75 00:03:47,305 --> 00:03:49,345 Speaker 3: And that's where the pressure is to actually buy these 76 00:03:49,345 --> 00:03:52,465 Speaker 3: things is because it's just keeping up with the Joneses, 77 00:03:52,465 --> 00:03:54,905 Speaker 3: but wrapped up differently so it's all on display. 78 00:03:55,305 --> 00:03:57,665 Speaker 2: Well, I think back to my skin carrotine in high school, 79 00:03:57,705 --> 00:04:00,425 Speaker 2: and quite simply, I don't think I had one, Like 80 00:04:00,545 --> 00:04:02,665 Speaker 2: I have vague memories of the Clean and Clear three 81 00:04:02,705 --> 00:04:04,865 Speaker 2: step system. Well yeah, which is so funny because I 82 00:04:04,905 --> 00:04:07,025 Speaker 2: had no acting at the time and now I do, 83 00:04:07,185 --> 00:04:12,385 Speaker 2: so that's feels ironic. But cleanser to moisturizer probably very stripping. 84 00:04:12,825 --> 00:04:14,585 Speaker 2: But if we want to talk stripping, the Saint Ives 85 00:04:14,625 --> 00:04:18,705 Speaker 2: Apricot scrub with literally crushed up apricot kernel inside. I 86 00:04:18,745 --> 00:04:21,425 Speaker 2: would scrub on my face and I remember being like, wow, 87 00:04:21,465 --> 00:04:23,785 Speaker 2: my skin feels so smooth, and it's like, yeah, bestie, 88 00:04:23,865 --> 00:04:25,225 Speaker 2: you've just ripped up your skin barrier. 89 00:04:25,465 --> 00:04:26,385 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 90 00:04:26,505 --> 00:04:28,785 Speaker 5: And also not SPF. I never wore SPF. 91 00:04:28,865 --> 00:04:30,505 Speaker 1: I mean no one was wearing at the beach. 92 00:04:30,545 --> 00:04:32,265 Speaker 2: My parents would be like I would be on a 93 00:04:32,265 --> 00:04:35,105 Speaker 2: long sleeve rushvest and like a wide brimmed hat. But 94 00:04:36,025 --> 00:04:37,865 Speaker 2: on my day to day I was not wearing SPF 95 00:04:37,905 --> 00:04:38,465 Speaker 2: on my face. 96 00:04:38,785 --> 00:04:39,945 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think obviously. 97 00:04:40,025 --> 00:04:41,585 Speaker 3: The other thing that comes into play here is that 98 00:04:41,705 --> 00:04:44,345 Speaker 3: like the trends and knowledge at the time, like Western beauty. 99 00:04:44,345 --> 00:04:46,345 Speaker 3: We spoke about this on the KVE Beauty episode that 100 00:04:46,385 --> 00:04:50,465 Speaker 3: we did. Cave Beauty's influence really pushed us away from 101 00:04:50,505 --> 00:04:53,545 Speaker 3: all of the exfoliation and the stripping and the actives 102 00:04:53,625 --> 00:04:55,625 Speaker 3: to nourishing exactly. 103 00:04:55,985 --> 00:04:57,985 Speaker 1: So it wasn't really our fault. 104 00:04:58,105 --> 00:05:00,505 Speaker 2: It's not my fault that I was put toothpaste on 105 00:05:00,505 --> 00:05:02,665 Speaker 2: my pimples and pop my black heads with a bobby pin. 106 00:05:03,145 --> 00:05:03,785 Speaker 5: Did you do this? 107 00:05:04,185 --> 00:05:06,425 Speaker 3: I didn't do the bobby pin. I definitely did the 108 00:05:06,465 --> 00:05:07,865 Speaker 3: toothpaste for sure. 109 00:05:08,105 --> 00:05:09,985 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I did not have any skin can and 110 00:05:09,985 --> 00:05:11,905 Speaker 2: we can't even start on makeup. It was like dream 111 00:05:11,945 --> 00:05:13,985 Speaker 2: Matt Moose and I had this phase where I did 112 00:05:14,025 --> 00:05:16,305 Speaker 2: a teal eyeliner like that was my look for a 113 00:05:16,345 --> 00:05:18,065 Speaker 2: really long time in high school. It's just a teal 114 00:05:18,585 --> 00:05:21,385 Speaker 2: eyeliner that's so pretty, thank you so much, but absolutely 115 00:05:21,385 --> 00:05:25,345 Speaker 2: no lipstick, like we're going for like dead no conceala, yeah, concilla. 116 00:05:25,545 --> 00:05:25,825 Speaker 1: Yeah. 117 00:05:25,905 --> 00:05:27,425 Speaker 5: What was your skincare like as a teen? 118 00:05:27,785 --> 00:05:30,545 Speaker 3: I was sort of similar. I used a Neutrogena oil 119 00:05:30,585 --> 00:05:31,825 Speaker 3: free acne wash slag. 120 00:05:31,905 --> 00:05:33,305 Speaker 5: Honestly, sleigh still slaves. 121 00:05:33,385 --> 00:05:36,865 Speaker 3: It's actually good, Like I really liked that and it's 122 00:05:36,865 --> 00:05:40,745 Speaker 3: still around today. I definitely used Tony that was pure alcohol. 123 00:05:40,465 --> 00:05:43,545 Speaker 6: Oh straight up alcohol, which I don't have any idea 124 00:05:43,545 --> 00:05:44,465 Speaker 6: of the bookies Aclee. 125 00:05:45,505 --> 00:05:47,425 Speaker 3: I have no idea what brand it was. But then 126 00:05:47,465 --> 00:05:50,265 Speaker 3: it was either Subeleine cream or like a QV cream, 127 00:05:50,305 --> 00:05:53,705 Speaker 3: like a QV It's always been. That's what happens when 128 00:05:53,745 --> 00:05:55,465 Speaker 3: you grow up in a family of like so many 129 00:05:55,465 --> 00:05:57,265 Speaker 3: of my cousins had x mar so it was like 130 00:05:57,385 --> 00:05:58,185 Speaker 3: always around. 131 00:05:58,185 --> 00:06:00,825 Speaker 4: So I just used it and then my treat would 132 00:06:00,825 --> 00:06:01,265 Speaker 4: be like. 133 00:06:01,185 --> 00:06:02,825 Speaker 1: The ole a face fluid. 134 00:06:02,905 --> 00:06:06,425 Speaker 3: So my nana that was like her thing or like ponds, 135 00:06:06,625 --> 00:06:09,145 Speaker 3: you know, like and I just remember that scent as 136 00:06:09,145 --> 00:06:11,825 Speaker 3: such a woor memory. Yeah no Sunserene ever, No, no, 137 00:06:11,985 --> 00:06:14,105 Speaker 3: I mean it's only something I really started in the 138 00:06:14,225 --> 00:06:18,265 Speaker 3: last couple of years because yeah, yeah. 139 00:06:17,905 --> 00:06:19,705 Speaker 2: Well, I think a really good place to start for 140 00:06:19,745 --> 00:06:23,665 Speaker 2: teens skin is cleanse moisturize, SPF, lip bumb like. 141 00:06:23,785 --> 00:06:25,625 Speaker 1: Oh I didn't even think about lip bumby yet. 142 00:06:25,465 --> 00:06:28,545 Speaker 2: Bum Like that is all teens without additional skin challenges. Obviously, 143 00:06:28,545 --> 00:06:30,185 Speaker 2: if you're facing those, go and see it, dourm, go 144 00:06:30,185 --> 00:06:32,025 Speaker 2: and see a doctor. But that's all they need to 145 00:06:32,025 --> 00:06:34,785 Speaker 2: be doing. Brands like qv Seravey set of Feel. And 146 00:06:34,825 --> 00:06:37,585 Speaker 2: then if you want something special. I understand teens like 147 00:06:38,025 --> 00:06:40,305 Speaker 2: for their birthday, they might want something from Mecca. Sofore like, 148 00:06:40,305 --> 00:06:42,625 Speaker 2: if that's what they really want, you know, little treat, 149 00:06:42,985 --> 00:06:44,985 Speaker 2: I would go from the lip bum being from there, like, 150 00:06:45,105 --> 00:06:47,545 Speaker 2: get a really special lip bumb that's not active, that's 151 00:06:47,585 --> 00:06:50,625 Speaker 2: not like going to alter the skin. It's more just 152 00:06:50,665 --> 00:06:53,025 Speaker 2: like get something fun and trendy the summer. Friday's butter 153 00:06:53,065 --> 00:06:55,985 Speaker 2: balms are very popular, but I just think it's important 154 00:06:56,025 --> 00:06:58,065 Speaker 2: to protect their skin and build up a strong foundation 155 00:06:58,185 --> 00:06:59,105 Speaker 2: in these early years. 156 00:06:59,385 --> 00:07:01,385 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that and I completely agree. I think 157 00:07:01,385 --> 00:07:04,385 Speaker 3: that assuming there's no skin conditions, I think cleanse and 158 00:07:04,425 --> 00:07:08,345 Speaker 3: moisturizer and FPF is plenty at that age. I would say, 159 00:07:08,385 --> 00:07:11,385 Speaker 3: like in the morning order only followed by a moisturizer 160 00:07:11,385 --> 00:07:11,985 Speaker 3: and SPF. 161 00:07:12,025 --> 00:07:14,545 Speaker 4: You don't need to be at that age, especially. 162 00:07:14,105 --> 00:07:16,905 Speaker 3: Washing your face so much, and then pm mcleans and 163 00:07:16,945 --> 00:07:19,505 Speaker 3: moisturizer in that set. None of the preventative bs, which 164 00:07:19,545 --> 00:07:21,505 Speaker 3: is what I've been seeing on TikTok and I'm like, 165 00:07:21,985 --> 00:07:23,545 Speaker 3: preventative what what? 166 00:07:23,825 --> 00:07:26,945 Speaker 2: You literally have more colorg having your life right now. 167 00:07:26,785 --> 00:07:28,905 Speaker 1: And the SPF is doing that enjoy it right. 168 00:07:29,345 --> 00:07:32,345 Speaker 3: So my first pick would always be drugstore dorm approved 169 00:07:32,425 --> 00:07:35,305 Speaker 3: gentle brands like you mentioned, always, always, always. They have 170 00:07:35,425 --> 00:07:38,105 Speaker 3: teen ranges as well to suit different skin concerns and 171 00:07:38,185 --> 00:07:42,025 Speaker 3: they work, which is good and reasonably priced. Alternatively, there 172 00:07:42,025 --> 00:07:44,785 Speaker 3: were a couple of options that I recommend that tick 173 00:07:44,825 --> 00:07:47,945 Speaker 3: the TikTok aesthetic if you will, so one budget One 174 00:07:47,985 --> 00:07:52,465 Speaker 3: Bougie All Kinds, which is an Aussie teen self care brand. 175 00:07:52,545 --> 00:07:55,025 Speaker 3: So they basically provide a space for teens to experiment 176 00:07:55,105 --> 00:07:57,905 Speaker 3: and learn the skill of self care. There are stores 177 00:07:57,905 --> 00:08:00,425 Speaker 3: all around Australia. I've actually walked past us a bunch 178 00:08:00,425 --> 00:08:02,345 Speaker 3: of times and didn't realize like how much of a 179 00:08:02,385 --> 00:08:04,745 Speaker 3: cool brand this was. You can also order online and 180 00:08:04,745 --> 00:08:08,025 Speaker 3: they're stocked at a door beauty. So the products are vegan, 181 00:08:08,225 --> 00:08:11,105 Speaker 3: expertly formulated and made in Australia with no gross stuff, 182 00:08:11,105 --> 00:08:14,145 Speaker 3: one hundred percent naturally fragrance, not tested on animals, and 183 00:08:14,145 --> 00:08:16,985 Speaker 3: there are options for sensitive skin. So products are like 184 00:08:17,105 --> 00:08:20,305 Speaker 3: lip balms and glosses. They've got hair care so like 185 00:08:20,905 --> 00:08:25,025 Speaker 3: wash masks, cream styling products, shower care like washes, whips, 186 00:08:25,065 --> 00:08:29,145 Speaker 3: bath bubbles, and then personal care like deodorant, hairbands, body moisturizer, 187 00:08:29,185 --> 00:08:32,425 Speaker 3: and then skin care and products range from fourteen ninety 188 00:08:32,505 --> 00:08:35,025 Speaker 3: nine to less than twenty. The skin care comes in 189 00:08:35,065 --> 00:08:37,785 Speaker 3: a little higher, the cleanses twenty five and the moisturizer 190 00:08:37,865 --> 00:08:39,865 Speaker 3: is thirty, but you can do a full size set 191 00:08:40,225 --> 00:08:42,865 Speaker 3: for fifty or a mini set for twenty five, so 192 00:08:42,905 --> 00:08:46,545 Speaker 3: I reckon that's pretty reasonable for products that are made 193 00:08:46,585 --> 00:08:50,665 Speaker 3: fourteen skin. They also have an install recycling program to 194 00:08:50,745 --> 00:08:53,305 Speaker 3: teach kids about recycling and that it can be fun 195 00:08:53,345 --> 00:08:57,105 Speaker 3: and rewarding, and all of the collection boxes turn that 196 00:08:57,185 --> 00:09:00,105 Speaker 3: plastic into new packaging for all kinds. Love it so 197 00:09:00,145 --> 00:09:02,745 Speaker 3: it's like a three sixty thing, and like the packaging 198 00:09:02,825 --> 00:09:05,945 Speaker 3: is that TikTok asseetic. It's that real, like past two 199 00:09:06,065 --> 00:09:10,705 Speaker 3: thousands holographic packaging, that kind of vibe. And then I 200 00:09:10,745 --> 00:09:14,105 Speaker 3: thought for the bougie, go To Skincare has like pulled 201 00:09:14,145 --> 00:09:17,225 Speaker 3: two of its products together to create a starter pack 202 00:09:17,305 --> 00:09:20,225 Speaker 3: for teens, and they just say it's a simple two 203 00:09:20,225 --> 00:09:23,305 Speaker 3: step routine. So Step one is properly Clean, which is 204 00:09:23,345 --> 00:09:25,785 Speaker 3: their gentle cleansing moose and it's. 205 00:09:25,625 --> 00:09:27,945 Speaker 4: Great for breakout teen skin. 206 00:09:28,345 --> 00:09:31,745 Speaker 3: Removes excess oil, clears pores, and gives skin a really 207 00:09:31,745 --> 00:09:33,385 Speaker 3: good clean so you can use it on the morning 208 00:09:33,385 --> 00:09:36,945 Speaker 3: on tem skin. Step two is a very lightweight moisturizer. 209 00:09:37,265 --> 00:09:40,305 Speaker 3: It's oil free and it offers an intense hydration. 210 00:09:40,865 --> 00:09:42,865 Speaker 4: So basically the pack is eighty eight dollars. 211 00:09:42,905 --> 00:09:44,385 Speaker 3: You actually don't save any money, it's just the two 212 00:09:44,385 --> 00:09:46,985 Speaker 3: products together, but it's currently on sale for seventy nine. 213 00:09:47,225 --> 00:09:49,625 Speaker 4: Go To as such a brand that holds a lot 214 00:09:49,625 --> 00:09:51,305 Speaker 4: of cred Yeah, so. 215 00:09:51,585 --> 00:09:52,385 Speaker 1: That's a good option. 216 00:09:52,465 --> 00:09:56,345 Speaker 3: And obviously the founder, z Foster Blake, has been a 217 00:09:56,345 --> 00:09:59,105 Speaker 3: beauty editor for years, so that experience comes into the formulation. 218 00:09:59,185 --> 00:10:01,305 Speaker 3: So I think it's a pretty safe bet if you 219 00:10:01,425 --> 00:10:04,105 Speaker 3: wanted to do something, but it's still kind of exy, 220 00:10:04,145 --> 00:10:05,265 Speaker 3: but there's two options there. 221 00:10:05,705 --> 00:10:05,985 Speaker 5: Love that. 222 00:10:13,545 --> 00:10:15,665 Speaker 4: Okay, So you know what's making me really happy right 223 00:10:15,665 --> 00:10:16,625 Speaker 4: now being here with me? 224 00:10:17,145 --> 00:10:21,705 Speaker 3: Obviously Number one number two popstars are back, baby, they are. 225 00:10:21,945 --> 00:10:24,865 Speaker 3: But more than that, the popsar aesthetic is back. Things 226 00:10:24,865 --> 00:10:27,985 Speaker 3: are fun again. It feels like their fucks are on Vaca. 227 00:10:28,225 --> 00:10:32,105 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was a little Sabrina Carpenter I just 228 00:10:32,265 --> 00:10:32,985 Speaker 3: threw on there. 229 00:10:33,025 --> 00:10:35,985 Speaker 1: Sorry about that. But it's also especially with makeup. 230 00:10:36,185 --> 00:10:37,945 Speaker 3: I do have to note though, because I know there 231 00:10:38,025 --> 00:10:41,825 Speaker 3: is a ub my age somewhere yelling being like you 232 00:10:41,905 --> 00:10:45,065 Speaker 3: better give it the credit that it's due. Yes, a 233 00:10:45,105 --> 00:10:46,465 Speaker 3: lot of it has to do with the return of 234 00:10:46,505 --> 00:10:48,625 Speaker 3: the two thousands aesthetic, and it does feel a little 235 00:10:48,665 --> 00:10:50,625 Speaker 3: bit too soon for the two thousands to be a vintage. 236 00:10:50,665 --> 00:10:51,745 Speaker 5: It feels like an attack. 237 00:10:52,225 --> 00:10:53,585 Speaker 1: It does feel like an attack. 238 00:10:53,705 --> 00:10:56,905 Speaker 3: It does feel like an attack, but this does feel 239 00:10:56,905 --> 00:11:00,665 Speaker 3: like an even more evolved version. It's weird and wacky escapism. 240 00:11:00,745 --> 00:11:04,545 Speaker 3: It's cookie cutter reinvented, but it's less to shock, say 241 00:11:04,625 --> 00:11:07,865 Speaker 3: like a Gaga, and more just to say who cares. 242 00:11:07,945 --> 00:11:11,265 Speaker 3: So it's entirely uns which I think is very much 243 00:11:11,345 --> 00:11:14,505 Speaker 3: of jen Z as a generation. I agree, and it's 244 00:11:14,545 --> 00:11:18,505 Speaker 3: refreshing when everything is so so serious in the world 245 00:11:18,825 --> 00:11:21,585 Speaker 3: at this time. So I really am loving the contrast 246 00:11:21,665 --> 00:11:24,545 Speaker 3: of chapel Ron and Sabrina Carpenter, who, together with Charlie 247 00:11:24,665 --> 00:11:28,305 Speaker 3: XCIX are basically the pop stars of the Northern Hemisphere 248 00:11:28,385 --> 00:11:29,065 Speaker 3: summer right now. 249 00:11:29,185 --> 00:11:31,065 Speaker 2: Holy Trinity, the Holy Trinity. 250 00:11:31,225 --> 00:11:34,585 Speaker 1: Is that a fansy, No, not at all. That's beautiful, 251 00:11:35,105 --> 00:11:36,225 Speaker 1: poetic if you will. 252 00:11:36,705 --> 00:11:38,585 Speaker 4: So chapel roone, oh my heart. 253 00:11:38,705 --> 00:11:40,025 Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm obsessed. 254 00:11:40,065 --> 00:11:41,665 Speaker 1: I'm really obsessed, so obsessed. 255 00:11:41,665 --> 00:11:46,585 Speaker 3: And she grew up in this crazy conservative, ultra religious 256 00:11:46,585 --> 00:11:50,305 Speaker 3: household and she's just fully come out of her shell 257 00:11:50,385 --> 00:11:53,625 Speaker 3: with each album that she's released without obviously this album's 258 00:11:53,625 --> 00:11:57,105 Speaker 3: crossing over into mainstream music, which is fantastic. So Fashion 259 00:11:57,145 --> 00:11:59,425 Speaker 3: Magazine wrote this amazing piece on her that I think 260 00:11:59,425 --> 00:12:02,585 Speaker 3: sums it up brilliantly more than I could do, even 261 00:12:02,665 --> 00:12:05,705 Speaker 3: in just the title, chapel Rone and the Art of Tackiness, 262 00:12:05,745 --> 00:12:08,425 Speaker 3: the stars larger than life aesthetic is an ode to 263 00:12:08,505 --> 00:12:11,625 Speaker 3: boundless self expression and queer joy. So they write with 264 00:12:11,745 --> 00:12:14,585 Speaker 3: drag as the cornerstone of her craft. Her Maura's more 265 00:12:14,625 --> 00:12:17,385 Speaker 3: style is a love letter to queerness. Recognizable codes of 266 00:12:17,385 --> 00:12:21,385 Speaker 3: her costumes include clashing prints, exaggerated proportions, and crude cutouts. 267 00:12:21,585 --> 00:12:24,945 Speaker 3: The delightful cookiness of her clothes is emphasized by her makeup, 268 00:12:25,345 --> 00:12:29,705 Speaker 3: often comprising white face paint, skinny eyebrows, and tea's red hair. 269 00:12:30,105 --> 00:12:34,185 Speaker 3: Similarly to Charlie xx, chapel Orone's taste for confrontational self 270 00:12:34,185 --> 00:12:38,185 Speaker 3: expression doesn't pander to anyone else, It revels an originality. 271 00:12:38,385 --> 00:12:39,425 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm obsessed with her. 272 00:12:39,505 --> 00:12:41,865 Speaker 2: I like she does remind me of Gaga in a 273 00:12:41,905 --> 00:12:44,785 Speaker 2: way where it seemed that Gaga's time, it was all 274 00:12:44,865 --> 00:12:47,585 Speaker 2: like people will really focused, pop stars really focused on 275 00:12:47,625 --> 00:12:49,625 Speaker 2: being just like really pretty, really beautiful. Yes, and then 276 00:12:49,665 --> 00:12:51,665 Speaker 2: it was like, no, this is my art. I love 277 00:12:51,745 --> 00:12:54,105 Speaker 2: someone who's just like You're never gonna know what I'm 278 00:12:54,105 --> 00:12:57,505 Speaker 2: gonna do next, Like Chapalad Gveball was head to toe 279 00:12:57,505 --> 00:13:00,705 Speaker 2: in green paint and contour and was dressed as a 280 00:13:00,705 --> 00:13:04,305 Speaker 2: statue of liberty, and like her hair was so like 281 00:13:04,345 --> 00:13:06,865 Speaker 2: she's got this big, beautiful, curly hair and it was 282 00:13:06,905 --> 00:13:10,025 Speaker 2: like green and teased, and she just she didn't just 283 00:13:10,025 --> 00:13:11,665 Speaker 2: come out in like a little mini and a tube top. 284 00:13:11,745 --> 00:13:13,825 Speaker 2: She was like, I'm gonna take a moment to think 285 00:13:13,865 --> 00:13:15,425 Speaker 2: how i want to present and how I want my 286 00:13:15,505 --> 00:13:17,825 Speaker 2: music to People are not gonna stop talking about her 287 00:13:17,825 --> 00:13:21,345 Speaker 2: because she's always looking so fascinating. And then on Jimmy 288 00:13:21,345 --> 00:13:24,105 Speaker 2: Fallon she was in like. 289 00:13:23,225 --> 00:13:25,185 Speaker 5: Like a Swan kind of vibe. 290 00:13:25,225 --> 00:13:28,625 Speaker 2: She had feathers coming off her nails and white face paint, 291 00:13:28,665 --> 00:13:32,105 Speaker 2: white hair, And I watched that performance and I was like, Oh, 292 00:13:32,185 --> 00:13:34,665 Speaker 2: I'm watching someone who's not thinking about how they look, 293 00:13:34,705 --> 00:13:38,585 Speaker 2: but instead really being in the moment of her performance, 294 00:13:38,625 --> 00:13:41,505 Speaker 2: like I'm watching an artist similarly to how I feel 295 00:13:41,505 --> 00:13:45,425 Speaker 2: about like Freddie Mercury, and like like that expression that's 296 00:13:45,425 --> 00:13:47,505 Speaker 2: been put into that I don't know. I feel like 297 00:13:47,545 --> 00:13:53,345 Speaker 2: she's amazing and her drag, makeup and personas are so incredible. 298 00:13:53,465 --> 00:13:55,625 Speaker 4: Yeah, and she gives a lot of credit to that. 299 00:13:55,665 --> 00:13:57,705 Speaker 4: She's like a big fan of that whole community. 300 00:13:58,345 --> 00:14:01,705 Speaker 3: And it's just so fun to watch exactly what you said, 301 00:14:01,745 --> 00:14:02,905 Speaker 3: you never know what's coming next. 302 00:14:03,025 --> 00:14:03,625 Speaker 1: Yeah. 303 00:14:03,705 --> 00:14:06,345 Speaker 3: So on the complete other end of the spectrum from 304 00:14:06,465 --> 00:14:08,225 Speaker 3: Chapel is then Sabrina Cuppander. 305 00:14:08,385 --> 00:14:10,785 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's like sexy Sandra d. 306 00:14:11,345 --> 00:14:14,945 Speaker 6: She is like a pollypocket, yes, a little po pocket, yeah, 307 00:14:15,425 --> 00:14:18,305 Speaker 6: or I really like I loved cry Baby the movie 308 00:14:18,545 --> 00:14:21,825 Speaker 6: and Alison like when she gets sexy, it's like very 309 00:14:21,865 --> 00:14:22,745 Speaker 6: much that vibe. 310 00:14:23,025 --> 00:14:25,305 Speaker 3: It's sexy pin up and the makeup is super fun. 311 00:14:25,345 --> 00:14:28,065 Speaker 3: And I also think it's really achievable at home. 312 00:14:28,265 --> 00:14:29,585 Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like it. 313 00:14:29,585 --> 00:14:32,425 Speaker 2: Kind of sits right at the at our end of this, 314 00:14:32,785 --> 00:14:34,665 Speaker 2: I was like, I can't do a Chapel makeup at home, 315 00:14:34,705 --> 00:14:36,025 Speaker 2: but I can do a Sobrina mar. 316 00:14:36,185 --> 00:14:37,945 Speaker 1: Makeup on home exactly exactly. 317 00:14:38,025 --> 00:14:38,145 Speaker 3: So. 318 00:14:38,225 --> 00:14:40,465 Speaker 4: Her makeup artist, Carolina Gonzalez. 319 00:14:40,025 --> 00:14:42,425 Speaker 3: Spoke to Bertie and when she was asked to sum 320 00:14:42,505 --> 00:14:45,785 Speaker 3: up Sabrina's signature makeup look, she said glowy and basically 321 00:14:45,825 --> 00:14:48,985 Speaker 3: they just think, like baby, they want like a glowing 322 00:14:49,105 --> 00:14:52,625 Speaker 3: bass with barely their liner, fluffy lashes and brows, and 323 00:14:52,625 --> 00:14:55,705 Speaker 3: then a really gorgeous lip, and they basically say it's 324 00:14:55,705 --> 00:14:58,385 Speaker 3: a blueprint for her doll like look. As soon as 325 00:14:58,425 --> 00:14:59,825 Speaker 3: she said dole like, I looked at her and I 326 00:14:59,865 --> 00:15:01,265 Speaker 3: was like, she does look like a doll. 327 00:15:01,545 --> 00:15:02,865 Speaker 5: I love her blush. 328 00:15:02,985 --> 00:15:06,065 Speaker 2: I feel like her is really taking over and including 329 00:15:06,105 --> 00:15:08,105 Speaker 2: with me, like I'm just doing more blush than I've 330 00:15:08,105 --> 00:15:08,545 Speaker 2: ever done. 331 00:15:08,825 --> 00:15:09,585 Speaker 3: I've always done. 332 00:15:09,945 --> 00:15:12,425 Speaker 1: I've always been clown and both. I've always been clown. 333 00:15:12,465 --> 00:15:14,345 Speaker 2: And I've spoken to a couple of makeup artists on 334 00:15:14,425 --> 00:15:16,465 Speaker 2: in her bag about blush lighter, this new trend, and 335 00:15:16,505 --> 00:15:18,305 Speaker 2: she is kind of at the forefront of it. It's 336 00:15:18,305 --> 00:15:21,185 Speaker 2: like a blush highlight of combo, so like really glowy, 337 00:15:21,385 --> 00:15:25,465 Speaker 2: really pink, baby pink think, like yeah, literally baby pink 338 00:15:25,545 --> 00:15:27,185 Speaker 2: cheeks and like more as more and more. 339 00:15:27,385 --> 00:15:27,705 Speaker 1: Yeah. 340 00:15:28,025 --> 00:15:30,065 Speaker 3: I was reading an article when I was doing research 341 00:15:30,105 --> 00:15:33,065 Speaker 3: for this and for the North American Eras tour, she 342 00:15:33,305 --> 00:15:36,465 Speaker 3: was supporting Taylor's swift. She did her makeup, I know, 343 00:15:36,705 --> 00:15:39,305 Speaker 3: for that tour crazy, and she was using products that 344 00:15:39,345 --> 00:15:41,345 Speaker 3: we all use at home. So for the blush that 345 00:15:41,385 --> 00:15:43,225 Speaker 3: you were talking about when she was doing her makeup, 346 00:15:43,505 --> 00:15:47,265 Speaker 3: she was using the makeup by Mario Soft Pop powder blushes, 347 00:15:47,265 --> 00:15:51,265 Speaker 3: which are so pigmented ever so yummy. And then for 348 00:15:51,305 --> 00:15:54,025 Speaker 3: her brows, because she was just basically like, it's brows, 349 00:15:54,145 --> 00:15:56,825 Speaker 3: it's cheek, it's lip, it's nails. So for her eyes 350 00:15:56,865 --> 00:16:00,265 Speaker 3: she was using the Charlotte Tilbury Sleep Cheat Liner duo. 351 00:16:00,825 --> 00:16:03,585 Speaker 3: And then for lips, she was like, it's so much mixing. 352 00:16:04,105 --> 00:16:06,945 Speaker 3: She's basically said that there's five different things, but Charlotte 353 00:16:06,945 --> 00:16:09,625 Speaker 3: Tilbury lip cheat and pillow talk medium was kind of 354 00:16:09,745 --> 00:16:10,945 Speaker 3: the base that she. 355 00:16:11,145 --> 00:16:13,705 Speaker 1: Built off, but also this messy. 356 00:16:13,385 --> 00:16:16,345 Speaker 3: Girl aesthetic, which I've been rooting for for a long time. 357 00:16:16,665 --> 00:16:18,985 Speaker 1: I do think it's just Indisley's two point zero. 358 00:16:19,025 --> 00:16:21,225 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm like here for it because that was 359 00:16:21,265 --> 00:16:23,025 Speaker 3: like what I grew up learning makeups, and I'm. 360 00:16:22,905 --> 00:16:24,465 Speaker 1: Like, okay, great, we're back in fashion. 361 00:16:24,505 --> 00:16:25,425 Speaker 4: We're back in fashion. 362 00:16:25,785 --> 00:16:29,425 Speaker 3: But it's just simply smudge makeup. It's like being an 363 00:16:29,465 --> 00:16:34,225 Speaker 3: eat girl, not giving any f's. It's not even about skin, No, 364 00:16:34,345 --> 00:16:40,025 Speaker 3: it's about an attitude. So nice brows, smudgy black eyeliner, attitude, 365 00:16:40,305 --> 00:16:41,305 Speaker 3: and a tude to boot. 366 00:16:49,705 --> 00:16:50,745 Speaker 4: The best product wins. 367 00:16:50,825 --> 00:16:57,105 Speaker 1: I should have saved my money budget Bougian budget recommendation 368 00:16:57,225 --> 00:16:58,065 Speaker 1: slash pix. 369 00:16:57,865 --> 00:17:00,865 Speaker 2: Of the Week, Lucy, What Yours Mine is a budget 370 00:17:01,305 --> 00:17:03,985 Speaker 2: nice So it's the Milani make it last setting spray. 371 00:17:04,065 --> 00:17:06,305 Speaker 2: It comes in three different formulas. There's a Matt, a Dewey, 372 00:17:06,385 --> 00:17:09,585 Speaker 2: and an original formula. This is the number one setting 373 00:17:09,665 --> 00:17:10,545 Speaker 2: Brain America. 374 00:17:10,585 --> 00:17:11,265 Speaker 4: Ooh yeah. 375 00:17:11,345 --> 00:17:14,225 Speaker 2: I'm currently on sale at price Line for seventeen dollars 376 00:17:14,345 --> 00:17:17,465 Speaker 2: usually twenty five. I ran out of my Charlotte Till 377 00:17:17,505 --> 00:17:19,345 Speaker 2: Breeze setting spray, which is my ride or Die, and 378 00:17:19,385 --> 00:17:21,105 Speaker 2: I had this in my cupboard to give a go. 379 00:17:21,385 --> 00:17:24,705 Speaker 2: And it is really really good, really good, And obviously 380 00:17:24,705 --> 00:17:27,185 Speaker 2: that's a very different price point, which we love. I 381 00:17:27,225 --> 00:17:29,705 Speaker 2: personally have been using the Dewy formula and the original 382 00:17:30,065 --> 00:17:33,225 Speaker 2: Natural Finish formula. What I love most is the mist. 383 00:17:33,425 --> 00:17:35,585 Speaker 2: It's so fine, no water droplets on your face, like 384 00:17:35,625 --> 00:17:37,305 Speaker 2: it is like someone's. 385 00:17:36,905 --> 00:17:39,585 Speaker 5: Just like breathing this beautiful mist. 386 00:17:39,825 --> 00:17:41,705 Speaker 2: Like it is so fine. I can't even explain. You 387 00:17:41,745 --> 00:17:43,425 Speaker 2: need to try it, but I do find it makes 388 00:17:43,425 --> 00:17:45,505 Speaker 2: my makeup last. I love that it's affordable, you can 389 00:17:45,545 --> 00:17:47,505 Speaker 2: find it a price line. It's cruelty free, it's vegan. 390 00:17:47,625 --> 00:17:49,745 Speaker 2: It's also got nicinamide and glitterin in it, so it's 391 00:17:49,745 --> 00:17:50,465 Speaker 2: really hydrating. 392 00:17:50,545 --> 00:17:52,345 Speaker 4: Oh wow, I'm definitely gonna try that. 393 00:17:52,985 --> 00:17:57,505 Speaker 3: Okay, mine is a spendy sorry about that. So after 394 00:17:57,505 --> 00:18:00,265 Speaker 3: the whole vitamin ceed Debarkle were my skin basically was 395 00:18:00,345 --> 00:18:05,305 Speaker 3: like wow, I just started over and I recommended that 396 00:18:05,345 --> 00:18:08,225 Speaker 3: Doctor Jart essence and moisturizer last week. 397 00:18:08,265 --> 00:18:10,865 Speaker 4: The other product that I was I had space. 398 00:18:10,625 --> 00:18:12,785 Speaker 3: Full was a serum and I had a little look 399 00:18:12,825 --> 00:18:14,945 Speaker 3: in the pr that I've received, and I saw the 400 00:18:14,985 --> 00:18:19,265 Speaker 3: Lock Satan and Mortal Overnight Reset serum. One of these 401 00:18:19,305 --> 00:18:22,145 Speaker 3: bad boys is sold every minute around the world. 402 00:18:22,265 --> 00:18:23,865 Speaker 2: I obviously love Locks of Time, but then you hear 403 00:18:23,865 --> 00:18:25,745 Speaker 2: those kind of starts and you're like, Okay, this is. 404 00:18:25,745 --> 00:18:27,145 Speaker 5: A really popular yeohle love this. 405 00:18:27,225 --> 00:18:28,065 Speaker 1: Everyone loves it. 406 00:18:28,345 --> 00:18:31,745 Speaker 3: So they've actually just relaunched this cult product with a 407 00:18:31,785 --> 00:18:34,745 Speaker 3: really new powerful formulation. So it has ten times more 408 00:18:34,825 --> 00:18:37,425 Speaker 3: of the essentral oil and that's known for strong anti 409 00:18:37,505 --> 00:18:41,425 Speaker 3: aging and antioxidant properties, and it's an oil and serum. 410 00:18:41,465 --> 00:18:43,225 Speaker 3: So when you see the product, it's clear with like 411 00:18:43,305 --> 00:18:45,945 Speaker 3: these golden yellow bubbles and that's. 412 00:18:45,745 --> 00:18:46,985 Speaker 1: What the oil's preserved. 413 00:18:46,985 --> 00:18:49,145 Speaker 3: And so when the beads hit your face, well the 414 00:18:49,145 --> 00:18:51,825 Speaker 3: bubbles hit your face and melt into your skin on application, 415 00:18:51,905 --> 00:18:56,105 Speaker 3: but it's just like not sticky. It's just instantly plumper, glowier, 416 00:18:56,345 --> 00:18:58,585 Speaker 3: and I wake up looking really fresh and rested in 417 00:18:58,585 --> 00:19:02,065 Speaker 3: the morning, which is amazing. All skin types it's good for, 418 00:19:02,465 --> 00:19:04,625 Speaker 3: and it's pricier, but it's like a little slice of 419 00:19:04,705 --> 00:19:07,025 Speaker 3: luxury and your skincare well. 420 00:19:06,865 --> 00:19:09,025 Speaker 2: Yu Viz, thank you so much for joining us this 421 00:19:09,065 --> 00:19:11,865 Speaker 2: Wednesday for you besties remember what can they remember? O? 422 00:19:11,905 --> 00:19:12,305 Speaker 5: Kay? 423 00:19:12,345 --> 00:19:15,665 Speaker 3: Oh? You can subscribe to our weekly beauty newsletter. 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