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Speaker 2: Hello and Vernon Here from Mamma MIA's pop culture podcast,

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Speaker 2: The Spill. If you've watched with love Meghan, you'll have

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Speaker 2: a lot to say and look, so do we, and

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Speaker 2: we had to do a brutally honest review of the

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Speaker 2: entire show. Let's get straight into it. Enjoy this episode

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Speaker 1: From Mamma Mia. Welcome to The Spill, your daily pop

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Speaker 1: culture fix. I'm Laura Brodnick and I'm m Vernon. And

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Speaker 1: to say we are excited for this episode is an understatement.

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Speaker 3: My eyes hurt from watching so much.

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Speaker 1: I mean we both watched all in one night, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I watched six episodes one night, I woke

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Speaker 2: another three, and then I watched the last episode during worktime. Sorry, Momma,

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Speaker 2: I think it's okay. It definitely was for work.

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Speaker 1: I had to watch it all in one night because

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Speaker 1: because they were so worried about that we're talking about

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Speaker 1: with love mege. They know they know they read the

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Speaker 1: title It's okay Megan Markles or Meg Sussex's new Netflix show. Yes,

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Speaker 1: they wouldn't give anyone's screen access because normally they'll just

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Speaker 1: pop the screeners right into our Netflix accounts and we

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Speaker 1: But I think they were so worried about the backlash,

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Speaker 1: and then I woke up with nightmares of bees and

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Speaker 1: I know, no, I never have a nightmament. Mindy Kaling,

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Speaker 4: I've always loved taking something pretty ordinary and elevating it,

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Speaker 4: see what color I gravitate too, and everything goes from there,

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Speaker 4: And how you can incorporate these practices every day.

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Speaker 1: That's what you want? You want that sheepe and texture.

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Speaker 4: This is about connecting with friends. I love that we're

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Speaker 1: That is so good.

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Speaker 3: We're family now.

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Speaker 1: So today we are going to do a brutally honest

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Speaker 1: review of Megan Michael's new Netflix show. If you're new

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Speaker 1: to our Brilli honest reviews, don't know how you found us,

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Speaker 1: but welcome. But this is where we break down every

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Speaker 1: element of the biggest new TV show or movie that

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Speaker 1: this show. I don't know. You might be like, how

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Speaker 1: does the garden party at the end go? She pull

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Speaker 1: She able to flip that dumpling, Yes, you know, she

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Speaker 1: So what do you do you think of those opening

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Speaker 3: They live for four weeks. They're working from like twenty

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Speaker 1: I think she was also just a bit like, guys,

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Speaker 3: And she was talking about like what what should be

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Speaker 2: If you're in a kitchen cooking, a beagle will not

432
00:18:32,989 --> 00:18:35,989
Speaker 2: be asleep on that bed. It will be all over you,

433
00:18:36,069 --> 00:18:38,189
Speaker 2: like picking up crumbs every single beagle.

434
00:18:38,869 --> 00:18:41,469
Speaker 3: You can tell that dog is so old because he

435
00:18:41,509 --> 00:18:45,629
Speaker 3: couldn't even lift his head to see what was got

436
00:18:45,629 --> 00:18:50,989
Speaker 3: that little doctorate right up to just reminded me of

437
00:18:51,029 --> 00:18:53,469
Speaker 3: my dogs so much when they, like before they died.

438
00:18:53,509 --> 00:18:55,429
Speaker 1: Because you are going to hell for laughing about this,

439
00:18:55,429 --> 00:18:55,749
Speaker 1: it's just.

440
00:18:55,989 --> 00:18:58,309
Speaker 3: I feel like I can because we were doing the

441
00:18:58,349 --> 00:19:00,909
Speaker 3: same to my dogs when like we were trying so hard,

442
00:19:00,949 --> 00:19:03,509
Speaker 3: but like, yeah, that dog, Oh my god, r I P.

443
00:19:03,869 --> 00:19:06,509
Speaker 1: Well they did that. He got so much airtime. He

444
00:19:06,589 --> 00:19:08,629
Speaker 1: got so much airtime. He was like her sidekick, and

445
00:19:08,629 --> 00:19:10,069
Speaker 1: you can kind of tell the like obviously he was

446
00:19:10,149 --> 00:19:11,669
Speaker 1: old and tied, but he could just he was like,

447
00:19:11,709 --> 00:19:13,789
Speaker 1: I just alsow a bit over it. He's like because

448
00:19:13,829 --> 00:19:16,869
Speaker 1: he's like he was snoring. Yeah, he was like, oh,

449
00:19:16,909 --> 00:19:19,309
Speaker 1: she's making dog. I was like, oh, he she's making

450
00:19:19,389 --> 00:19:22,509
Speaker 1: for Tata. Seeing that before to see and the end,

451
00:19:22,589 --> 00:19:24,749
Speaker 1: it popped up in loving memory of Guy because he

452
00:19:24,789 --> 00:19:26,629
Speaker 1: passed away. He passed away after filming. It was his

453
00:19:26,669 --> 00:19:27,669
Speaker 1: final project.

454
00:19:27,869 --> 00:19:30,949
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I remember when Guy passed away out.

455
00:19:31,029 --> 00:19:33,789
Speaker 1: Yeah, you were really sad about that. That coincided with

456
00:19:33,829 --> 00:19:37,229
Speaker 1: Megan's return to Instagram. Which was nice for her black

457
00:19:37,269 --> 00:19:40,269
Speaker 1: and white. I could do a black and white memorial.

458
00:19:42,029 --> 00:19:45,589
Speaker 1: Oh cut, it is really sad when a dog passed away. Anyway,

459
00:19:45,589 --> 00:19:49,149
Speaker 1: back to budgets with what we were talking about, is it. Yeah,

460
00:19:49,149 --> 00:19:51,109
Speaker 1: So many times through the show she does try and

461
00:19:51,109 --> 00:19:52,549
Speaker 1: say like, oh and this is like it doesn't have

462
00:19:52,589 --> 00:19:54,389
Speaker 1: to be expensive, it doesn't have to be this and that.

463
00:19:54,909 --> 00:19:56,509
Speaker 1: And I just wish that she had done away with

464
00:19:56,549 --> 00:19:59,909
Speaker 1: that because everything she did, even the fruit platter, that

465
00:19:59,949 --> 00:20:01,549
Speaker 1: fruit platter, was like She's like, we have one of

466
00:20:01,549 --> 00:20:03,469
Speaker 1: these every day. I had that fruit platter. I can

467
00:20:03,589 --> 00:20:07,149
Speaker 1: afford parts at least one hundred dollars one hundred dollars

468
00:20:07,149 --> 00:20:09,909
Speaker 1: worth of fruit in that one little rainbow right there, and.

469
00:20:09,829 --> 00:20:12,389
Speaker 2: She was flaming fruits. I've never heard of it, Like

470
00:20:12,469 --> 00:20:14,909
Speaker 2: what a golden berrier. I don't know what that is.

471
00:20:14,949 --> 00:20:16,989
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I don't say, I mean, I use it.

472
00:20:17,109 --> 00:20:21,509
Speaker 1: It's not even just like she grows that. It's like, wow,

473
00:20:22,109 --> 00:20:24,069
Speaker 1: I love a two of Megan Michael's garden. Like I said,

474
00:20:24,109 --> 00:20:26,469
Speaker 1: she comes across. I know people hating on her, but

475
00:20:26,509 --> 00:20:27,909
Speaker 1: I would just love to go and live in her

476
00:20:27,909 --> 00:20:29,709
Speaker 1: world for a little bit. That's my biggest takeaway.

477
00:20:29,869 --> 00:20:31,829
Speaker 2: I'd love to like be in her actual house and

478
00:20:31,869 --> 00:20:34,949
Speaker 2: see what she actually does compared to what she showed

479
00:20:34,989 --> 00:20:35,309
Speaker 2: she did.

480
00:20:35,589 --> 00:20:37,949
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I'm sure she just walks around the

481
00:20:37,989 --> 00:20:41,029
Speaker 1: house in white Linen's in her own house, right, No,

482
00:20:41,189 --> 00:20:43,629
Speaker 1: because I remember there would be like little scenes.

483
00:20:43,269 --> 00:20:45,389
Speaker 2: Where they like she'd put a photo up for like

484
00:20:45,429 --> 00:20:47,709
Speaker 2: a few seconds, yeah, and it'll be her looking like

485
00:20:47,829 --> 00:20:51,269
Speaker 2: quite like freeing in my opinion, like in a jumper,

486
00:20:51,349 --> 00:20:53,749
Speaker 2: with a hair in a messy bar and like tights on,

487
00:20:53,909 --> 00:20:56,109
Speaker 2: just with like her girlfriends. I feel like those little

488
00:20:56,149 --> 00:20:59,189
Speaker 2: clips like show us what she's really like in situations

489
00:20:59,189 --> 00:21:01,509
Speaker 2: when she's not like lammed up for the cameras. And

490
00:21:01,629 --> 00:21:04,429
Speaker 2: I wish we saw more of that, Like we sawed

491
00:21:04,429 --> 00:21:05,909
Speaker 2: a bit when she was like picking in the garden

492
00:21:05,949 --> 00:21:08,309
Speaker 2: with like a jumper and jeans on, and like those

493
00:21:08,349 --> 00:21:11,309
Speaker 2: little like flashback shots of like her cooking by herself.

494
00:21:11,789 --> 00:21:14,189
Speaker 2: But I would have loved to see like just her

495
00:21:14,429 --> 00:21:17,629
Speaker 2: like playing like games with her friends without like you

496
00:21:17,709 --> 00:21:20,229
Speaker 2: saw her playing her friend but it was so because

497
00:21:20,269 --> 00:21:22,309
Speaker 2: like her friends are obviously like cameras and they had

498
00:21:22,309 --> 00:21:24,309
Speaker 2: to bring changers of clothes and they were like like

499
00:21:24,349 --> 00:21:27,869
Speaker 2: we saw with Vicky Saie. She was literally like so

500
00:21:27,869 --> 00:21:30,629
Speaker 2: so famous, so so rich, has so much publicity for

501
00:21:30,709 --> 00:21:33,669
Speaker 2: like being the founder of Tatcha that even she said

502
00:21:33,669 --> 00:21:36,789
Speaker 2: she was having a nightmare before this about accidentally packing

503
00:21:36,829 --> 00:21:39,109
Speaker 2: the wrong clothes because she was so amped up for

504
00:21:39,149 --> 00:21:39,829
Speaker 2: this moment on.

505
00:21:39,829 --> 00:21:41,869
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, no, no, this is I mean, I

506
00:21:41,909 --> 00:21:43,829
Speaker 1: want to like kind of be in the friendship circle

507
00:21:43,829 --> 00:21:45,549
Speaker 1: for a moment, but not permanently because that was a

508
00:21:45,629 --> 00:21:47,069
Speaker 1: high pressure situation.

509
00:21:47,349 --> 00:21:49,229
Speaker 3: They would be like the White Lotus ladies.

510
00:21:49,629 --> 00:21:52,309
Speaker 1: Yes, I got that vibe to like they came in.

511
00:21:52,349 --> 00:21:55,229
Speaker 1: Obviously they're a bit on like high looks for cameras,

512
00:21:55,389 --> 00:21:57,189
Speaker 1: but you do get that kind of feeling that when

513
00:21:57,189 --> 00:21:59,309
Speaker 1: they hang out it is a little bit like this,

514
00:21:59,469 --> 00:22:01,909
Speaker 1: Like everyone's dressed a very certain way, everyone's talking a

515
00:22:01,949 --> 00:22:05,229
Speaker 1: certain way. Everyone's voices have this like particular octave that

516
00:22:05,229 --> 00:22:08,749
Speaker 1: they're hitting. But it's all very kind of I don't know,

517
00:22:08,829 --> 00:22:11,349
Speaker 1: it's all very like for a camera, even when a

518
00:22:11,349 --> 00:22:12,269
Speaker 1: camera's not there.

519
00:22:12,109 --> 00:22:15,149
Speaker 2: Because it's different types of relationships. Right when I watched this,

520
00:22:15,269 --> 00:22:17,229
Speaker 2: I feel like the only friendship that I felt like

521
00:22:17,509 --> 00:22:19,749
Speaker 2: could have been like a bit more genuine than the

522
00:22:19,749 --> 00:22:22,469
Speaker 2: others would have been her and Mindy and only in

523
00:22:22,509 --> 00:22:25,149
Speaker 2: the same way. Like they're both like big status like

524
00:22:25,189 --> 00:22:27,669
Speaker 2: in fame. Yeah, and they've both been canceled. They both

525
00:22:27,709 --> 00:22:30,029
Speaker 2: had like been like cumulated by public. I've had like

526
00:22:30,189 --> 00:22:32,669
Speaker 2: gone through so much crap together in the same industry

527
00:22:33,029 --> 00:22:34,989
Speaker 2: that I feel like that connection would have been a

528
00:22:34,989 --> 00:22:37,309
Speaker 2: bit more different to like the connection, even though she

529
00:22:37,389 --> 00:22:39,629
Speaker 2: might be closer to her real friends obviously, Yeah, but

530
00:22:39,669 --> 00:22:41,709
Speaker 2: there's always going to be that bit of difference when

531
00:22:41,749 --> 00:22:43,789
Speaker 2: you bring your friends into your work.

532
00:22:44,189 --> 00:22:46,829
Speaker 1: Oh. Absolutely. But the thing is I found her maybe

533
00:22:46,989 --> 00:22:49,189
Speaker 1: except for the name bit in the Daisy making change,

534
00:22:49,189 --> 00:22:51,749
Speaker 1: I thought her connection to Mindy the most believable because

535
00:22:51,749 --> 00:22:53,309
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, they're work friends. Yeah,

536
00:22:53,349 --> 00:22:54,989
Speaker 1: they met through doing it well how to do it?

537
00:22:55,109 --> 00:22:57,029
Speaker 1: They were saying in the show. They only really message

538
00:22:57,029 --> 00:22:59,589
Speaker 1: about like work stuff. They're like the person you've done

539
00:22:59,629 --> 00:23:01,189
Speaker 1: like a podcast with a few times and then you

540
00:23:01,269 --> 00:23:03,349
Speaker 1: kind of connect with, so you have very set boundaries.

541
00:23:03,549 --> 00:23:05,309
Speaker 1: I thought it was more interesting when you saw like

542
00:23:05,349 --> 00:23:07,509
Speaker 1: her real friends coming and how that moved in front

543
00:23:07,509 --> 00:23:10,389
Speaker 1: of the camera. The only one I quite believed maybe

544
00:23:10,389 --> 00:23:12,589
Speaker 1: she was just more relaxed because she's used to it

545
00:23:12,709 --> 00:23:15,909
Speaker 1: was Abigail Spencer because they like really threw the ringer

546
00:23:16,029 --> 00:23:19,349
Speaker 1: together because they not only were on suits together, but

547
00:23:19,469 --> 00:23:22,109
Speaker 1: Abigail was really front and center for a lot of

548
00:23:22,109 --> 00:23:25,229
Speaker 1: the bullying things against Mega Markel. She's also the one

549
00:23:25,229 --> 00:23:28,189
Speaker 1: that spearheaded that big magazine campaign to sort of clear

550
00:23:28,229 --> 00:23:31,189
Speaker 1: her name, which backfired. I remember that, I don't remember that.

551
00:23:31,229 --> 00:23:34,749
Speaker 1: So she organized a whole bunch of their friends to

552
00:23:35,309 --> 00:23:37,869
Speaker 1: give all these interviews about Mega Markel at the height

553
00:23:38,029 --> 00:23:40,069
Speaker 1: of the big backlash against her, the height of her

554
00:23:40,109 --> 00:23:43,069
Speaker 1: like suing a company when she was suing the Sunday

555
00:23:43,069 --> 00:23:45,709
Speaker 1: Mail magazine, newspapers about the letter they printed all that

556
00:23:45,709 --> 00:23:48,789
Speaker 1: sort of stuff, and it kind of backfired in the

557
00:23:48,789 --> 00:23:51,389
Speaker 1: courts because it looked like she was like giving testimony

558
00:23:51,389 --> 00:23:54,229
Speaker 1: and speaking out of court. And then later Abigail Spencer

559
00:23:54,309 --> 00:23:56,269
Speaker 1: apologized and she's like, I had no idea like the

560
00:23:56,269 --> 00:23:58,789
Speaker 1: backlash or the trouble I'd caused for her. I was

561
00:23:58,909 --> 00:24:00,869
Speaker 1: just like, we have to help this woman, like this

562
00:24:00,949 --> 00:24:03,429
Speaker 1: is my best friend and she's getting absolutely beaten apart.

563
00:24:03,869 --> 00:24:06,909
Speaker 1: And a lot of people hated Abigail Spencer for that,

564
00:24:07,269 --> 00:24:08,789
Speaker 1: but I always thought she just did I don't know,

565
00:24:08,829 --> 00:24:09,709
Speaker 1: I have not met her.

566
00:24:09,749 --> 00:24:11,989
Speaker 2: But interesting because now it makes me think that her

567
00:24:12,069 --> 00:24:14,149
Speaker 2: choosing Abigail to come on the show, Oh, I.

568
00:24:14,069 --> 00:24:15,949
Speaker 3: Think that was a very cool statement, right.

569
00:24:16,069 --> 00:24:18,309
Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, I think they have like been through it together,

570
00:24:18,349 --> 00:24:20,069
Speaker 1: but I think she's the one who's come forward and

571
00:24:20,069 --> 00:24:22,349
Speaker 1: spoke on her behalf so much. So I don't obviously

572
00:24:22,389 --> 00:24:24,709
Speaker 1: don't know Abergel Spencer, but I have always thought very

573
00:24:24,749 --> 00:24:27,189
Speaker 1: highly of her because I was interviewing her for a

574
00:24:27,189 --> 00:24:29,389
Speaker 1: new TV show that was coming out when we were

575
00:24:29,389 --> 00:24:32,029
Speaker 1: in the first Sydney Lockdown and so I'm all alone

576
00:24:32,029 --> 00:24:34,629
Speaker 1: at home. Zoom interviews weren't a thing at that time

577
00:24:34,709 --> 00:24:37,669
Speaker 1: because like lockdowns had just happened, and I was gonna

578
00:24:37,709 --> 00:24:39,429
Speaker 1: call her for this interview and my phone broke and

579
00:24:39,469 --> 00:24:41,109
Speaker 1: I was so upset because I was like in lockdown,

580
00:24:41,149 --> 00:24:43,629
Speaker 1: everything was closed, nowhere to go. I emailed her agent.

581
00:24:43,669 --> 00:24:46,189
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm so sorry, Like my phone's dead, I'm

582
00:24:46,229 --> 00:24:47,869
Speaker 1: all alone. I don't know what to do. I have

583
00:24:47,949 --> 00:24:49,669
Speaker 1: to cancel, and she was like came back to me

584
00:24:49,709 --> 00:24:51,789
Speaker 1: and she's like, Abigail just said, we'll just make it work.

585
00:24:51,829 --> 00:24:53,549
Speaker 1: You get your phone fixed, sort yourself out. We'll do

586
00:24:53,589 --> 00:24:55,189
Speaker 1: it another time. And so she did it for me,

587
00:24:55,269 --> 00:24:58,149
Speaker 1: like after hours, after the press cycle was done, and

588
00:24:58,189 --> 00:24:59,709
Speaker 1: she was so lovely. She humped on the phone and

589
00:24:59,709 --> 00:25:01,629
Speaker 1: she's like, how are you, Like, are you going okay?

590
00:25:01,749 --> 00:25:03,869
Speaker 1: You okay? In lockdown, I was like, I'm so sorry

591
00:25:03,909 --> 00:25:05,629
Speaker 1: about yesterday and she's like, don't worry about it. And

592
00:25:05,669 --> 00:25:07,509
Speaker 1: she was like, oh, I've heard the fires in the

593
00:25:07,509 --> 00:25:09,389
Speaker 1: street have been so bad, and I've been tracking it

594
00:25:09,389 --> 00:25:10,789
Speaker 1: and I've seen all the and she was just like

595
00:25:10,869 --> 00:25:13,389
Speaker 1: she was so lovely and I don't know if she

596
00:25:13,429 --> 00:25:15,229
Speaker 1: would put that on for like a phone interview with

597
00:25:15,229 --> 00:25:18,309
Speaker 1: a strange journalists, like potentially, but she went like above

598
00:25:18,349 --> 00:25:21,389
Speaker 1: and beyond like and I'll never forget how nice she

599
00:25:21,589 --> 00:25:24,109
Speaker 1: was and how lovely she was. So when I saw

600
00:25:24,149 --> 00:25:25,789
Speaker 1: her coming out and saying that she was trying to

601
00:25:25,789 --> 00:25:29,629
Speaker 1: defend Meghan and girl, I was like, Abigail my best friend.

602
00:25:30,149 --> 00:25:32,309
Speaker 1: I know, I know it's real. So when I saw

603
00:25:32,349 --> 00:25:34,949
Speaker 1: on the show, it was like I thought their relationship

604
00:25:34,949 --> 00:25:37,549
Speaker 1: came across quite genuine. But I think maybe because Abigail's

605
00:25:37,549 --> 00:25:38,309
Speaker 1: not scared of the camera.

606
00:25:38,469 --> 00:25:41,229
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's true, because like it's and it's correct

607
00:25:41,269 --> 00:25:43,989
Speaker 2: what you said about work friends. Because even if Meghan

608
00:25:44,069 --> 00:25:46,229
Speaker 2: is like obviously closer with the friend she's grown up

609
00:25:46,269 --> 00:25:48,909
Speaker 2: with or known like for the longest time. When you

610
00:25:48,949 --> 00:25:52,029
Speaker 2: go into that work mode, you automatically be more comfortable

611
00:25:52,109 --> 00:25:53,829
Speaker 2: with your work there because you don't have to hold

612
00:25:53,829 --> 00:25:55,549
Speaker 2: their hands through it. Yeah, you know, they'll just get

613
00:25:55,589 --> 00:25:57,309
Speaker 2: it and know what to say. And I think that's

614
00:25:57,349 --> 00:25:59,269
Speaker 2: why it seems like they're more closer.

615
00:25:59,669 --> 00:26:04,189
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I wondered, like, because her whole takeaway from

616
00:26:04,229 --> 00:26:06,509
Speaker 1: this show was so much about like wanting to give

617
00:26:06,549 --> 00:26:09,469
Speaker 1: people all of these like recipes and lifestyle changes.

618
00:26:09,509 --> 00:26:10,949
Speaker 3: Wanted the jam.

619
00:26:11,069 --> 00:26:12,749
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like, okay, well, let's get to the jam

620
00:26:12,789 --> 00:26:14,309
Speaker 1: I had. I was gonna say, are there any moments

621
00:26:14,309 --> 00:26:15,749
Speaker 1: from the show that you're going to implement in your

622
00:26:15,749 --> 00:26:17,949
Speaker 1: own life? You don't remember any of them? No? I

623
00:26:17,989 --> 00:26:21,269
Speaker 1: actually quite like when she made that one pan pasta Yep,

624
00:26:21,709 --> 00:26:23,669
Speaker 1: have I not been telling you for years to make

625
00:26:23,749 --> 00:26:26,509
Speaker 1: one pan dishes? And that's the quickest because you're not

626
00:26:26,549 --> 00:26:28,989
Speaker 1: Megan Markle. Okay, that's that's it. You make a very

627
00:26:29,029 --> 00:26:31,389
Speaker 1: fair point. I am not Megan Mancle.

628
00:26:31,069 --> 00:26:32,789
Speaker 2: Because the one thing I do have as a walk,

629
00:26:33,069 --> 00:26:34,509
Speaker 2: and I think it's the same size as that.

630
00:26:34,589 --> 00:26:36,309
Speaker 1: You could be living like a queen with one walk.

631
00:26:36,389 --> 00:26:38,269
Speaker 1: That's all you need. That's what I've always said. Oh yeah,

632
00:26:38,269 --> 00:26:40,469
Speaker 1: because that's what Meghan Michael told me in that show

633
00:26:40,469 --> 00:26:43,109
Speaker 1: that I just watched. So I think that past it.

634
00:26:43,229 --> 00:26:44,269
Speaker 1: I'm throwing out.

635
00:26:44,109 --> 00:26:47,069
Speaker 3: My flower sprinkles because it pissed me off too much.

636
00:26:47,349 --> 00:26:49,829
Speaker 1: She did. I think you should start putting them on everything.

637
00:26:49,869 --> 00:26:50,269
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

638
00:26:50,269 --> 00:26:51,749
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll put them on my little steak and I'm

639
00:26:51,749 --> 00:26:53,669
Speaker 1: going to meet tonight when I get home, like she

640
00:26:53,709 --> 00:26:55,749
Speaker 1: would love that everything.

641
00:26:57,509 --> 00:26:59,749
Speaker 3: I'm surprised that chickens didn't get them a flowers.

642
00:26:59,509 --> 00:27:02,029
Speaker 1: Because can I say the truest thing that that woman

643
00:27:02,109 --> 00:27:05,349
Speaker 1: said is that fried chicken and expensive champagne go well together.

644
00:27:05,469 --> 00:27:08,029
Speaker 1: That's if my favorite combination. I don't think enough people

645
00:27:09,269 --> 00:27:10,709
Speaker 1: that pan years beer?

646
00:27:10,749 --> 00:27:11,589
Speaker 3: What oh the beer?

647
00:27:11,749 --> 00:27:14,069
Speaker 2: Did you notice that, like with all the ingredients and stuff,

648
00:27:14,149 --> 00:27:18,109
Speaker 2: she like peeled off all the labels, oh everything, Yeah, yeah,

649
00:27:18,189 --> 00:27:19,429
Speaker 2: No one's getting free promo.

650
00:27:19,949 --> 00:27:22,309
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, one's getting free only the jam which okay,

651
00:27:22,989 --> 00:27:25,029
Speaker 1: because that's been your Roman empire for a long time.

652
00:27:25,109 --> 00:27:27,829
Speaker 3: Mindy knew what the people wanted, and she went hard

653
00:27:27,949 --> 00:27:28,709
Speaker 3: asking questions.

654
00:27:28,709 --> 00:27:31,349
Speaker 1: I just pictured Mindy driving down the highway to Montecito,

655
00:27:31,789 --> 00:27:34,229
Speaker 1: really focused, being like I'm gonna find it. About that jam.

656
00:27:34,229 --> 00:27:35,589
Speaker 1: That's all people care about, yeap.

657
00:27:35,709 --> 00:27:39,149
Speaker 2: So we found out the theory behind the numbers yep.

658
00:27:39,229 --> 00:27:41,269
Speaker 2: Mindy was like I realized there were numbers.

659
00:27:41,469 --> 00:27:43,989
Speaker 1: I didn't know which was better. The very lowest of

660
00:27:45,029 --> 00:27:47,349
Speaker 1: very pre planned conversation. Even though she.

661
00:27:47,349 --> 00:27:49,509
Speaker 2: Received the jar of jam, Mindy was just like all

662
00:27:49,549 --> 00:27:52,389
Speaker 2: of us. She went to Instagram to see who else jam,

663
00:27:52,589 --> 00:27:55,149
Speaker 2: which is so funny. We found out that Megan's mum

664
00:27:55,229 --> 00:27:57,989
Speaker 2: got the number one jam yeap, which fair, which is fine,

665
00:27:58,029 --> 00:27:58,909
Speaker 2: we can't again.

666
00:27:58,989 --> 00:28:00,149
Speaker 1: Dory has been through it too.

667
00:27:59,989 --> 00:28:02,189
Speaker 3: And she just said it was random, which I highly doubt.

668
00:28:02,909 --> 00:28:06,309
Speaker 1: I don't know she was expecting how much that took

669
00:28:06,349 --> 00:28:08,829
Speaker 1: off at everyone working out who had which number and

670
00:28:08,869 --> 00:28:11,629
Speaker 1: who got one. And I think Mindy was all of

671
00:28:11,709 --> 00:28:13,109
Speaker 1: us in that moment where she was like, I was

672
00:28:13,189 --> 00:28:16,029
Speaker 1: trolling through Instagram accounts, I was keeping documents. I was

673
00:28:16,069 --> 00:28:18,269
Speaker 1: looking for who had each jar of jam and who

674
00:28:18,389 --> 00:28:20,749
Speaker 1: was too cool to post them. And then Megan did

675
00:28:20,789 --> 00:28:24,229
Speaker 1: her standard thing that she does anytime she's confront with anything,

676
00:28:24,389 --> 00:28:26,909
Speaker 1: pretended she didn't know about it. She knew everything about it.

677
00:28:27,069 --> 00:28:28,989
Speaker 1: You could see on her face. She was like, numbers

678
00:28:28,989 --> 00:28:30,669
Speaker 1: of jam, I don't know. I just try to make

679
00:28:30,669 --> 00:28:32,789
Speaker 1: people happy with some beautiful preserves, and you know their

680
00:28:32,829 --> 00:28:35,749
Speaker 1: preserves are not jam because jam is half fruit, hushed sugar.

681
00:28:37,269 --> 00:28:38,909
Speaker 3: Technically jam, which you've.

682
00:28:38,829 --> 00:28:40,309
Speaker 1: Been calling a jam all the way through. Are you

683
00:28:40,349 --> 00:28:41,669
Speaker 1: going to print a retraction.

684
00:28:41,589 --> 00:28:42,509
Speaker 3: Once I get the jam?

685
00:28:42,549 --> 00:28:45,349
Speaker 1: I will, You're like, I'll see for myself right now.

686
00:28:45,389 --> 00:28:47,029
Speaker 1: And also, now she's got pitch nectar?

687
00:28:47,109 --> 00:28:47,989
Speaker 3: What's that all about?

688
00:28:48,269 --> 00:28:51,309
Speaker 1: That did sound delicious, but like when do we get that? Well?

689
00:28:51,429 --> 00:28:53,589
Speaker 3: Even Mindy was like, oh, I mean it was like,

690
00:28:53,589 --> 00:28:55,189
Speaker 3: I feel like I have to say yes to the nectar.

691
00:28:55,509 --> 00:28:57,349
Speaker 1: Yeah, because she's a Norman when she's going to be

692
00:28:57,349 --> 00:28:58,469
Speaker 1: able to have that access again.

693
00:28:58,509 --> 00:29:01,469
Speaker 2: My favorite line though, before we continue with the Jam story,

694
00:29:02,389 --> 00:29:04,469
Speaker 2: because like the whole Mindy Kaling episode was them like

695
00:29:04,549 --> 00:29:07,549
Speaker 2: doing stuff for their kids, and Megan was like, are

696
00:29:07,589 --> 00:29:09,389
Speaker 2: you like me where you go all out with your kids'

697
00:29:09,389 --> 00:29:10,109
Speaker 2: birthday parties?

698
00:29:10,149 --> 00:29:11,669
Speaker 3: And then he was like the women I pay to

699
00:29:11,669 --> 00:29:13,269
Speaker 3: go all at us and I.

700
00:29:13,189 --> 00:29:16,229
Speaker 2: Was like, yes, that is exactly what we want, and

701
00:29:16,309 --> 00:29:18,869
Speaker 2: I wish like that was kind of the theme throughout

702
00:29:18,949 --> 00:29:22,309
Speaker 2: all the episodes of like this is like tiny call

703
00:29:22,349 --> 00:29:24,749
Speaker 2: out and like bringing her back to reality because I

704
00:29:24,789 --> 00:29:27,229
Speaker 2: feel like in that moment, Meg was like surprised with

705
00:29:27,309 --> 00:29:28,949
Speaker 2: him laughed, and I was like that's what she needed,

706
00:29:28,989 --> 00:29:31,429
Speaker 2: Like she need just like surprise and make a laugh.

707
00:29:31,589 --> 00:29:33,669
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like we're sting at the kids table and

708
00:29:33,669 --> 00:29:36,109
Speaker 1: she's like it's almost too pretty to eat, and she's.

709
00:29:35,949 --> 00:29:39,589
Speaker 3: Like I'm around, pass me that, Christina.

710
00:29:39,909 --> 00:29:41,429
Speaker 1: But also she was like, you can come over and

711
00:29:41,509 --> 00:29:43,829
Speaker 1: watch me heat up burritos. And I was like, Mindy, Kayling,

712
00:29:44,349 --> 00:29:45,269
Speaker 1: you dirty liar.

713
00:29:45,429 --> 00:29:48,589
Speaker 3: She cooks, She cooks so much. She did him in

714
00:29:48,629 --> 00:29:49,749
Speaker 3: her second memoir, but then she.

715
00:29:49,749 --> 00:29:54,709
Speaker 1: Learns no, but she's always posting her cooking on Instagram. Okay,

716
00:29:54,949 --> 00:29:58,789
Speaker 1: that's just Mindy, don't don't Mindy, don't lie. The people

717
00:29:58,789 --> 00:30:00,029
Speaker 1: who know you the best, which is us.

718
00:30:01,109 --> 00:30:02,749
Speaker 2: Her cooking is more real, though she does do the

719
00:30:02,789 --> 00:30:05,709
Speaker 2: whole like messy kids ship carried everywhere and.

720
00:30:05,669 --> 00:30:07,549
Speaker 1: She'll be like this doesn't look great, but it tasted

721
00:30:07,589 --> 00:30:09,469
Speaker 1: really good and make it be like weet with our

722
00:30:09,469 --> 00:30:12,989
Speaker 1: eyes first touching her. No, I think in that moment

723
00:30:13,149 --> 00:30:15,029
Speaker 1: he was just doing that thing that I think that

724
00:30:15,109 --> 00:30:17,309
Speaker 1: also we do around people who are a bit more

725
00:30:17,389 --> 00:30:19,189
Speaker 1: kind of closed up and stuff, like you start putting

726
00:30:19,189 --> 00:30:21,189
Speaker 1: on a bit of a comedy routine and like being

727
00:30:21,269 --> 00:30:23,589
Speaker 1: very self deprecating to tiy and like shake them out

728
00:30:23,589 --> 00:30:23,789
Speaker 1: of it.

729
00:30:24,429 --> 00:30:25,989
Speaker 3: She's struggling for a life there.

730
00:30:27,109 --> 00:30:29,549
Speaker 1: But yes, I think the talking about the Jam saga

731
00:30:29,589 --> 00:30:31,869
Speaker 1: was a way to address like the biggest headline that's

732
00:30:31,869 --> 00:30:34,349
Speaker 1: been following her and try and put the rumors to rest.

733
00:30:34,429 --> 00:30:35,509
Speaker 1: But I don't know if it landed.

734
00:30:35,669 --> 00:30:37,909
Speaker 3: I don't think it landed because I'm also still confused

735
00:30:37,909 --> 00:30:40,269
Speaker 3: on when we get because it sounds like we will

736
00:30:40,309 --> 00:30:41,629
Speaker 3: be getting jam eventually.

737
00:30:41,709 --> 00:30:44,789
Speaker 1: But she did Deserves preserves one thing today.

738
00:30:44,909 --> 00:30:49,909
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're getting our strawberry raspberry peach nectar preserves, maybe

739
00:30:49,949 --> 00:30:50,709
Speaker 3: a dog bit skin.

740
00:30:50,989 --> 00:30:52,949
Speaker 1: She's willing, But.

741
00:30:54,429 --> 00:30:56,469
Speaker 2: We just don't know when because they didn't. She didn't

742
00:30:56,469 --> 00:30:59,869
Speaker 2: say anything about like going to sell them or well.

743
00:30:59,909 --> 00:31:03,069
Speaker 1: I think all the trademark issues around it have probably

744
00:31:03,189 --> 00:31:06,309
Speaker 1: had some sort of overlay onto the show, especially because

745
00:31:06,349 --> 00:31:08,949
Speaker 1: the last episode is a launch party for what we

746
00:31:08,989 --> 00:31:10,869
Speaker 1: don't know because she never says brand name. Do you

747
00:31:10,869 --> 00:31:13,469
Speaker 1: notice that she's like, here's to creativity, here's to a

748
00:31:13,509 --> 00:31:16,109
Speaker 1: new beginning, here's to launching this brand. Thank you all

749
00:31:16,149 --> 00:31:18,909
Speaker 1: for being there with me, but never goes into well,

750
00:31:18,909 --> 00:31:21,389
Speaker 1: it's the brand, not the show well, she never says

751
00:31:21,429 --> 00:31:22,789
Speaker 1: like it's the show. I sort of got the idea

752
00:31:22,829 --> 00:31:25,349
Speaker 1: that it was meant to just be the whole lifestyle brand, like, yes,

753
00:31:25,389 --> 00:31:26,829
Speaker 1: it's a rap party for the show.

754
00:31:27,029 --> 00:31:29,069
Speaker 3: Please don't w watch another website I can't keep.

755
00:31:29,109 --> 00:31:30,469
Speaker 1: Well, she knows she's had to change the name of

756
00:31:30,509 --> 00:31:31,549
Speaker 1: the company. That's what it is.

757
00:31:31,709 --> 00:31:34,869
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because of the yeah, the old chid. I

758
00:31:34,909 --> 00:31:36,949
Speaker 2: was actually looking really closely when she was writing people's

759
00:31:37,029 --> 00:31:38,509
Speaker 2: names on the labels. I was like, I need to

760
00:31:38,509 --> 00:31:41,669
Speaker 2: see this O written out and yes, because that did

761
00:31:41,709 --> 00:31:44,269
Speaker 2: cost her entire company. The other thing I wanted to

762
00:31:44,269 --> 00:31:46,149
Speaker 2: bring up was how much.

763
00:31:45,989 --> 00:31:48,829
Speaker 1: They broke the fourth wall all the way through filming,

764
00:31:49,189 --> 00:31:50,749
Speaker 1: and I think that was again I don't want to

765
00:31:50,749 --> 00:31:52,589
Speaker 1: have this thought around her that everything she does is

766
00:31:52,629 --> 00:31:55,429
Speaker 1: so calculated. When you're at her level, I think you

767
00:31:55,509 --> 00:31:57,669
Speaker 1: have to be. Like I said, last time she had

768
00:31:57,709 --> 00:31:59,749
Speaker 1: people in her house and was filming and taking some

769
00:31:59,749 --> 00:32:02,149
Speaker 1: photos in her reel house. It just blew up with

770
00:32:02,189 --> 00:32:04,549
Speaker 1: all these articles of like pricing everything in the room,

771
00:32:04,909 --> 00:32:07,269
Speaker 1: doing like backstories and everything of room. People looking for

772
00:32:07,349 --> 00:32:09,469
Speaker 1: secret clues. We did it. We ran a story with

773
00:32:09,469 --> 00:32:12,789
Speaker 1: big red circle around things like her telling her journalists

774
00:32:12,789 --> 00:32:15,749
Speaker 1: what to write, Yeah, exactly, Like she's been burnt before,

775
00:32:15,789 --> 00:32:17,509
Speaker 1: so I think this time she I think that she

776
00:32:17,549 --> 00:32:19,549
Speaker 1: probably had a whole team of people trying to say, like,

777
00:32:19,589 --> 00:32:22,589
Speaker 1: how can we do this luxury show that is your

778
00:32:22,709 --> 00:32:25,949
Speaker 1: vision of this like beautiful, high end show and make

779
00:32:26,029 --> 00:32:28,549
Speaker 1: you look really relatable at the same time. And I

780
00:32:28,589 --> 00:32:30,549
Speaker 1: think half of that was her trying to bring in

781
00:32:30,629 --> 00:32:33,189
Speaker 1: like some non celebrity friends who would also make her

782
00:32:33,309 --> 00:32:35,149
Speaker 1: kind of look good. But I think the other part

783
00:32:35,309 --> 00:32:38,269
Speaker 1: was always panning around to seeing the camera crew, seeing

784
00:32:38,309 --> 00:32:41,269
Speaker 1: the producers make sure they're getting fed yes, and her

785
00:32:41,309 --> 00:32:43,389
Speaker 1: like making food for them, her talking to them them

786
00:32:43,429 --> 00:32:45,949
Speaker 1: saying in the background, they're being like, we love this food, Megan,

787
00:32:46,069 --> 00:32:49,549
Speaker 1: like Europe, Meg, we love this food. Like you're so lovely,

788
00:32:49,589 --> 00:32:51,629
Speaker 1: all that sort of stuff. And I'm sure she was

789
00:32:51,669 --> 00:32:53,709
Speaker 1: being lovely to them. Like I said, she had official

790
00:32:53,749 --> 00:32:56,109
Speaker 1: complaints put about her at the Palace for being a bully,

791
00:32:56,189 --> 00:32:58,629
Speaker 1: so she'd be like walking on eggshells. Now, oh my god,

792
00:32:58,629 --> 00:33:00,709
Speaker 1: I didn't even put that together. And also when she

793
00:33:00,749 --> 00:33:02,709
Speaker 1: came to LA Now there's been so many reports about

794
00:33:02,709 --> 00:33:04,909
Speaker 1: all the people that have quit her complex and stuff. Yeah,

795
00:33:04,949 --> 00:33:06,909
Speaker 1: there's been reports of her being difficult to work with.

796
00:33:07,029 --> 00:33:09,509
Speaker 1: So I think she is this rich, beautiful woman in

797
00:33:09,549 --> 00:33:13,189
Speaker 1: this beautiful making this unattainable food and cutting her flowers

798
00:33:13,189 --> 00:33:15,389
Speaker 1: an unattainable way. The truest thing she ever said was

799
00:33:15,389 --> 00:33:17,109
Speaker 1: not to use see through glass so you can't see

800
00:33:17,109 --> 00:33:18,789
Speaker 1: the dirty water, which is what I've worked for my

801
00:33:18,909 --> 00:33:21,509
Speaker 1: flower arranging as well. Oh well, the rest of the time,

802
00:33:21,549 --> 00:33:24,269
Speaker 1: she's very unattainable, and I think she could have come

803
00:33:24,309 --> 00:33:27,189
Speaker 1: off really cold. So they're showing like her mingling with

804
00:33:27,229 --> 00:33:29,829
Speaker 1: the camera guy and the producer and she's making them

805
00:33:29,869 --> 00:33:32,229
Speaker 1: snacks and she's talking to them. And when the camera

806
00:33:32,309 --> 00:33:33,709
Speaker 1: moves away, you can see like a bit of the

807
00:33:33,749 --> 00:33:36,029
Speaker 1: mess and the production in the background. So it's showing like,

808
00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:38,709
Speaker 1: we know this is a fake world for a moment,

809
00:33:38,749 --> 00:33:40,989
Speaker 1: please step into the real world. Well, we're all friends

810
00:33:41,029 --> 00:33:42,549
Speaker 1: and we make sandwiches and drink beer.

811
00:33:42,669 --> 00:33:43,309
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

812
00:33:43,509 --> 00:33:46,589
Speaker 1: Yes, WHOA. Maybe it worked.

813
00:33:46,789 --> 00:33:48,909
Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe it worked even like when she

814
00:33:48,909 --> 00:33:51,469
Speaker 3: would do like little quirky things like now you reminded me,

815
00:33:51,549 --> 00:33:53,749
Speaker 3: Like when she would be like, stay right here, I'm

816
00:33:53,749 --> 00:33:55,589
Speaker 3: gonna run out and get some lavender. Yeah, and then

817
00:33:55,629 --> 00:33:57,989
Speaker 3: the camera just follows her outside. Also that's not her garden.

818
00:33:58,109 --> 00:33:59,829
Speaker 3: So is she allowed to do that? I don't know, but.

819
00:34:00,589 --> 00:34:02,949
Speaker 1: I'm sure loving de picking was included in the fee

820
00:34:02,989 --> 00:34:05,629
Speaker 1: for the house. That lavender was like pre planted.

821
00:34:06,029 --> 00:34:08,149
Speaker 2: But I think it's like those little moments that look

822
00:34:08,309 --> 00:34:10,869
Speaker 2: like she's doing it off the cuff, but definitely would

823
00:34:10,909 --> 00:34:14,189
Speaker 2: have been I'm gonna go out and get some lavendar, yeah,

824
00:34:14,349 --> 00:34:17,109
Speaker 2: and then just like pretend it wasn't yeah exactly.

825
00:34:17,429 --> 00:34:19,189
Speaker 1: I just think overall, I think a lot of people

826
00:34:19,229 --> 00:34:21,589
Speaker 1: went into this wanting it to be this like crazy

827
00:34:21,629 --> 00:34:24,189
Speaker 1: over the top luxury show, and it wasn't that. And

828
00:34:24,229 --> 00:34:26,509
Speaker 1: I think other people wanted all these behind the scenes

829
00:34:26,589 --> 00:34:29,829
Speaker 1: tell all moments from Megan Markle, which really didn't get

830
00:34:29,829 --> 00:34:32,349
Speaker 1: any of like evitably didn't expect it, did we I

831
00:34:32,389 --> 00:34:33,829
Speaker 1: think some people did. We did it, But I think

832
00:34:33,869 --> 00:34:35,869
Speaker 1: some people thought that she might talk about her life,

833
00:34:36,029 --> 00:34:37,709
Speaker 1: or or she might talk about like, you know, the

834
00:34:37,789 --> 00:34:40,189
Speaker 1: royal family a little bit, but she only ever sort

835
00:34:40,229 --> 00:34:42,229
Speaker 1: of just alluded to it on the surface. She talked

836
00:34:42,229 --> 00:34:44,949
Speaker 1: about h Yes, well he didn't make a little appearance

837
00:34:44,949 --> 00:34:45,229
Speaker 1: at the.

838
00:34:45,229 --> 00:34:47,909
Speaker 2: End, and then quickly at like the hike for like

839
00:34:47,909 --> 00:34:50,149
Speaker 2: a little snippet yeah, because that was like a pre film.

840
00:34:50,389 --> 00:34:52,149
Speaker 2: I'm so glad, Oh my god, I'm so glad they

841
00:34:52,189 --> 00:34:54,629
Speaker 2: didn't take Guy on that hike. I was looking out

842
00:34:54,669 --> 00:34:56,349
Speaker 2: for it and I was like, oh no, it's not going.

843
00:34:56,309 --> 00:34:59,629
Speaker 1: To be that would be the end for him. I

844
00:34:59,629 --> 00:35:01,869
Speaker 1: also thought it was very interesting that. But you know

845
00:35:01,869 --> 00:35:04,109
Speaker 1: how like every time a new episode started, it comes

846
00:35:04,189 --> 00:35:06,589
Speaker 1: up with like you know, rated whatever it was for

847
00:35:06,669 --> 00:35:09,749
Speaker 1: like adult themes, and it had a warning about crude humor,

848
00:35:10,549 --> 00:35:11,469
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm.

849
00:35:11,349 --> 00:35:12,589
Speaker 3: Sorry it was crude humor.

850
00:35:12,669 --> 00:35:13,309
Speaker 1: I didn't see it.

851
00:35:13,349 --> 00:35:15,029
Speaker 3: Was it just about talking them talking about drinks and

852
00:35:15,029 --> 00:35:15,909
Speaker 3: getting drunk.

853
00:35:16,029 --> 00:35:17,709
Speaker 1: With some stage I think where she's like all that

854
00:35:17,789 --> 00:35:19,589
Speaker 1: my bacon brings all the boys to the art. I'm like,

855
00:35:19,589 --> 00:35:24,229
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Was that the crude humor? And then like

856
00:35:24,229 --> 00:35:25,429
Speaker 1: a zoom in on the bacon.

857
00:35:25,709 --> 00:35:27,909
Speaker 2: Also, what I needed to talk about was like the

858
00:35:27,949 --> 00:35:30,269
Speaker 2: whole garden party at the yes.

859
00:35:30,109 --> 00:35:32,869
Speaker 1: Okay, last episode, food be.

860
00:35:32,909 --> 00:35:36,669
Speaker 2: Warned to food everywhere, preserves everywhere where the hell.

861
00:35:36,469 --> 00:35:38,389
Speaker 1: Were the flies? They had them removed?

862
00:35:39,429 --> 00:35:40,989
Speaker 3: They had the bees, but not the flies.

863
00:35:41,229 --> 00:35:43,149
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if you're Megan Minkle, you have the

864
00:35:43,149 --> 00:35:44,429
Speaker 1: power to have no flies.

865
00:35:44,509 --> 00:35:47,029
Speaker 2: I just like I even knew like that little kind

866
00:35:47,069 --> 00:35:49,589
Speaker 2: of hut that she had Mindy Kalen in outside that

867
00:35:49,629 --> 00:35:51,149
Speaker 2: would have been like if we try to do something

868
00:35:51,189 --> 00:35:53,189
Speaker 2: like that, it would be like a sauna, Like it

869
00:35:53,189 --> 00:35:55,909
Speaker 2: would be so hot in there, there'd be flies everywhere.

870
00:35:56,109 --> 00:35:58,709
Speaker 2: Like just the whole look of it, Like, you can't

871
00:35:58,789 --> 00:36:01,189
Speaker 2: replicate it, even if you do have all that money.

872
00:36:01,269 --> 00:36:03,029
Speaker 2: I don't think you could ever replicate that.

873
00:36:04,029 --> 00:36:06,349
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it was well. It was also set dressing,

874
00:36:06,429 --> 00:36:08,269
Speaker 1: like there would have been a whole team of people,

875
00:36:08,469 --> 00:36:10,269
Speaker 1: which sometimes we saw the Afforge.

876
00:36:10,149 --> 00:36:12,269
Speaker 2: Good to me though, because it showed me what was

877
00:36:12,269 --> 00:36:14,509
Speaker 2: the flashback and what wasn't, because I got quite confused

878
00:36:15,149 --> 00:36:17,309
Speaker 2: because you know, like some of the episodes, it would

879
00:36:17,349 --> 00:36:20,149
Speaker 2: start off like at the end where she's presenting everything,

880
00:36:20,549 --> 00:36:23,669
Speaker 2: and then she'd be like, pass me the strawberry preserve,

881
00:36:23,829 --> 00:36:25,389
Speaker 2: and then it would flash back to her making the

882
00:36:25,389 --> 00:36:29,869
Speaker 2: strawberry preserve before, or like preshing the Fish's superhero.

883
00:36:29,989 --> 00:36:31,469
Speaker 1: She can't make the jam on the same way that

884
00:36:31,629 --> 00:36:33,149
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm like, that's what.

885
00:36:33,069 --> 00:36:35,149
Speaker 3: The outfit changes helped me with. I'm like, did you

886
00:36:35,229 --> 00:36:36,389
Speaker 3: just leave her guest there to go?

887
00:36:36,829 --> 00:36:38,949
Speaker 1: Now? Cook? I don't think continuity was a big deal

888
00:36:38,989 --> 00:36:42,469
Speaker 1: for anyone she felt safe. I was following this from

889
00:36:42,549 --> 00:36:45,189
Speaker 1: beginning to in the story taking place. But yeah, I'm

890
00:36:45,229 --> 00:36:47,269
Speaker 1: also I'm just wondering who it Netflix slept on that

891
00:36:47,349 --> 00:36:50,389
Speaker 1: crude humor warning, and was it a joke, That's what

892
00:36:50,429 --> 00:36:50,949
Speaker 1: I'm thinking.

893
00:36:51,189 --> 00:36:52,909
Speaker 3: I don't think so. They were just like have to

894
00:36:52,909 --> 00:36:53,629
Speaker 3: be extra careful.

895
00:36:53,669 --> 00:36:55,389
Speaker 1: I mean no, I think she went a lot of

896
00:36:55,389 --> 00:36:57,229
Speaker 1: money on it. She would love people to think there

897
00:36:57,229 --> 00:36:59,109
Speaker 1: was crude humor in that show, that it was a

898
00:36:59,109 --> 00:37:00,149
Speaker 1: bit edgy.

899
00:37:00,029 --> 00:37:01,029
Speaker 3: I just don't.

900
00:37:00,789 --> 00:37:04,029
Speaker 1: Show your kids. She's like, this is for the girls

901
00:37:04,109 --> 00:37:06,029
Speaker 1: late at night. I love everything.

902
00:37:06,109 --> 00:37:06,709
Speaker 3: Ladies like her.

903
00:37:06,749 --> 00:37:09,429
Speaker 1: Chickens are ladies, her friends are ladies. The fruit she

904
00:37:09,469 --> 00:37:15,829
Speaker 1: wanted to see later ladies. It's so funny. So overall,

905
00:37:16,309 --> 00:37:19,749
Speaker 1: I think it's just the show has changed me. Can

906
00:37:19,829 --> 00:37:21,949
Speaker 1: I say, go home and salt a fish?

907
00:37:22,029 --> 00:37:23,789
Speaker 3: I really like her now. I think it worked on me.

908
00:37:24,309 --> 00:37:25,429
Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, I am.

909
00:37:26,149 --> 00:37:28,669
Speaker 2: I don't think it's mainly the guests she chose. Yeah,

910
00:37:28,749 --> 00:37:32,149
Speaker 2: like she chose very like not just like guests who

911
00:37:32,389 --> 00:37:34,389
Speaker 2: aren't all just for the camera, but just like guess

912
00:37:34,429 --> 00:37:37,749
Speaker 2: who are just open and vulnerable and like trying something new,

913
00:37:37,909 --> 00:37:38,549
Speaker 2: like Vicky say.

914
00:37:38,629 --> 00:37:39,389
Speaker 3: I think it made her.

915
00:37:39,269 --> 00:37:42,189
Speaker 2: Look so good, Like she's not just like this super

916
00:37:42,229 --> 00:37:45,549
Speaker 2: super rich woman who has this super super expensive skincare

917
00:37:45,589 --> 00:37:48,109
Speaker 2: brand which is also so in touch with the cultural roots,

918
00:37:48,109 --> 00:37:50,309
Speaker 2: and she makes dumblings and she like can teach you

919
00:37:50,349 --> 00:37:52,389
Speaker 2: how to cook, like it's things like that, Like she

920
00:37:53,109 --> 00:37:54,989
Speaker 2: made her guests look really good.

921
00:37:55,149 --> 00:37:57,069
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that is really nice.

922
00:37:57,549 --> 00:37:59,829
Speaker 1: Yes, And that's a big step up from archetypes, because

923
00:37:59,869 --> 00:38:02,909
Speaker 1: I think why that podcast really didn't land is that

924
00:38:03,189 --> 00:38:05,669
Speaker 1: Megan Markle and also we don't know, but apparently like

925
00:38:05,869 --> 00:38:07,909
Speaker 1: they couldn't come up with an idea, so Spotify came

926
00:38:07,989 --> 00:38:09,949
Speaker 1: up that idea for her, and you can tell with

927
00:38:10,269 --> 00:38:12,309
Speaker 1: the episodes that she never really grasped it because it's

928
00:38:12,349 --> 00:38:15,749
Speaker 1: about breaking down these archetypes which are based on words,

929
00:38:16,149 --> 00:38:18,629
Speaker 1: but she doesn't want to use the words or diva

930
00:38:18,669 --> 00:38:19,869
Speaker 1: like she doesn't want to. She's like, no, no, She's

931
00:38:19,869 --> 00:38:21,389
Speaker 1: one of two who's like, don't talk about it and

932
00:38:21,429 --> 00:38:24,189
Speaker 1: don't say it, whereas I think most people like no,

933
00:38:24,349 --> 00:38:26,909
Speaker 1: say it and deconstruct it and use it. And you

934
00:38:26,949 --> 00:38:28,789
Speaker 1: always just felt listening to that podcast that she was

935
00:38:28,949 --> 00:38:32,149
Speaker 1: very uncomfortable and she didn't want to and she wasn't

936
00:38:32,189 --> 00:38:35,389
Speaker 1: grasping the concept, whereas this is so her concept like

937
00:38:35,429 --> 00:38:37,709
Speaker 1: this is her in a nutshell, is that she's wanting

938
00:38:37,749 --> 00:38:40,749
Speaker 1: you to see her dehydrated fruit and her flower arranging.

939
00:38:40,509 --> 00:38:43,229
Speaker 3: And then she found her thing finally took her while.

940
00:38:43,269 --> 00:38:45,389
Speaker 1: But I feel like we weren't the people that needed

941
00:38:45,429 --> 00:38:47,189
Speaker 1: to be convinced, Like we didn't hate her in the

942
00:38:47,189 --> 00:38:48,709
Speaker 1: first place. We weren't hate watching this.

943
00:38:48,909 --> 00:38:50,589
Speaker 3: So do you think those people aren't convinced?

944
00:38:50,629 --> 00:38:53,629
Speaker 1: I think the headlines around the next day was super

945
00:38:53,629 --> 00:38:57,309
Speaker 1: predictable of this is cringey, this is embarrassing. The ten

946
00:38:57,389 --> 00:38:59,989
Speaker 1: most embarrassing moments for those headlines and mark.

947
00:38:59,789 --> 00:39:01,709
Speaker 3: Are also like written before people.

948
00:39:01,509 --> 00:39:04,349
Speaker 1: Are the show. But also they clicked the best. Yeah,

949
00:39:04,389 --> 00:39:06,429
Speaker 1: like in the defensive megamuklell. No one's going to click

950
00:39:06,429 --> 00:39:08,509
Speaker 1: on mad or like you know anything around that. But

951
00:39:08,589 --> 00:39:10,669
Speaker 1: maybe we should do that. Yeah, I guess we kind

952
00:39:10,669 --> 00:39:12,549
Speaker 1: of have in this episode. Like I said, I'm desperate

953
00:39:12,589 --> 00:39:14,789
Speaker 1: to be friends with this woman unlimited time and place.

954
00:39:15,229 --> 00:39:16,909
Speaker 1: But I just I just want to go and soak

955
00:39:16,949 --> 00:39:18,829
Speaker 1: in the bar salts that she makes for me and

956
00:39:18,909 --> 00:39:20,269
Speaker 1: use a love and to towel Is that too much

957
00:39:20,269 --> 00:39:20,589
Speaker 1: to ask?

958
00:39:20,749 --> 00:39:22,429
Speaker 3: Now? I can do that for you, though, I.

959
00:39:22,429 --> 00:39:24,669
Speaker 1: Really don't think that's going to happen, but stay tuned.

960
00:39:25,029 --> 00:39:27,229
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today.

961
00:39:27,309 --> 00:39:29,469
Speaker 2: If you loved our Brudley Honest review, we do a

962
00:39:29,629 --> 00:39:31,989
Speaker 2: lot of these. The latest one we did was on

963
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Speaker 2: the latest Bridget Jones movie.

964
00:39:34,389 --> 00:39:36,189
Speaker 1: It was really really cool, one of our best.

965
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say we were, like the title says, brutally honest.

966
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Speaker 1: It's very funny, very funny.

967
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Speaker 2: The Spill is produced by Kimberly Bradish with sound production

968
00:39:43,509 --> 00:39:45,149
Speaker 2: by Scott Stronik. And we'll be back here in your

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Speaker 2: podcast feed at three pm on Monday.

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Speaker 1: Bye bye, La.