1 00:00:11,424 --> 00:00:16,064 Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges 2 00:00:16,144 --> 00:00:19,624 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of land and borders that this podcast 3 00:00:19,704 --> 00:00:20,544 Speaker 1: is recorded on. 4 00:00:25,224 --> 00:00:27,744 Speaker 2: From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spell, your daily pop 5 00:00:27,784 --> 00:00:31,104 Speaker 2: culture fix. I'm am Burnham, I'm Claire Murphy, Laura Brodnick. 6 00:00:31,224 --> 00:00:34,304 Speaker 2: Still jet setting about the universe somewhere I saw her 7 00:00:34,424 --> 00:00:37,464 Speaker 2: like hanging out with monkeys. Because she was hanging out 8 00:00:37,464 --> 00:00:40,304 Speaker 2: with monkeys somewhere in a cave. I was like, are 9 00:00:40,344 --> 00:00:42,264 Speaker 2: you kidnapped? Or is it hard the Tuesday? 10 00:00:42,344 --> 00:00:44,184 Speaker 1: Is that our holiday? Or is she in trouble? Do 11 00:00:44,264 --> 00:00:45,024 Speaker 1: we just help? 12 00:00:45,104 --> 00:00:45,784 Speaker 2: Also? Buy that? 13 00:00:45,864 --> 00:00:49,344 Speaker 1: Okay? Cool? On today's show, House of the Dragon season 14 00:00:49,384 --> 00:00:51,504 Speaker 1: two finale came out just a couple of days ago, 15 00:00:51,544 --> 00:00:55,064 Speaker 1: and there's a lot to talk about, but also nothing 16 00:00:55,104 --> 00:00:57,984 Speaker 1: too at the same time, and a big announcement a 17 00:00:57,984 --> 00:01:01,544 Speaker 1: Britney Spears biopic, and look, I think we've got its ordered. 18 00:01:01,544 --> 00:01:04,144 Speaker 1: We know exactly who will be playing Brittany, I know 19 00:01:04,264 --> 00:01:08,864 Speaker 1: for sure, But first, everything has changed since I brought 20 00:01:08,904 --> 00:01:20,184 Speaker 1: her back? Then what did you do? 21 00:01:22,704 --> 00:01:25,784 Speaker 2: The first trailer of the Last of Us season two 22 00:01:26,104 --> 00:01:28,544 Speaker 2: is out, with the season set to be released in 23 00:01:28,664 --> 00:01:32,104 Speaker 2: January next year. So if you don't know the last 24 00:01:32,104 --> 00:01:35,184 Speaker 2: of us Massive but one like eight Emmys. It's a 25 00:01:35,264 --> 00:01:40,184 Speaker 2: dystopian series. It's based off the really popular video game series. 26 00:01:40,584 --> 00:01:44,384 Speaker 2: It stars Pedro Pascal and Bella Ramsey, and it has 27 00:01:44,424 --> 00:01:47,944 Speaker 2: a lot of really scary zombies, probably the most scariest 28 00:01:47,984 --> 00:01:49,584 Speaker 2: zombies I've ever witnessed in the TV show. 29 00:01:49,624 --> 00:01:52,864 Speaker 1: And it's also weirdly next level scary because it's kind 30 00:01:52,904 --> 00:01:55,344 Speaker 1: of like something could actually happen. I don't know how 31 00:01:55,464 --> 00:01:58,264 Speaker 1: zombies are normally some like experiment gone wrong, or like 32 00:01:58,304 --> 00:02:02,184 Speaker 1: some parasite or alien whatever. This is just fungus. 33 00:02:02,224 --> 00:02:04,824 Speaker 2: It's just fungus. It's like we have every day. I 34 00:02:04,864 --> 00:02:07,864 Speaker 2: do remember that, Like there was this ongoing bit when 35 00:02:08,064 --> 00:02:10,304 Speaker 2: the first season came out and everyone was obsessed with it. 36 00:02:10,464 --> 00:02:11,944 Speaker 2: How everyone was so scared of mold. 37 00:02:12,224 --> 00:02:15,344 Speaker 1: I know, right, Everyone's just like bleaching the living daylights 38 00:02:15,344 --> 00:02:18,184 Speaker 1: out of everything they own. Like you aren't coming in here, fungus. 39 00:02:18,504 --> 00:02:22,104 Speaker 2: I'm clean right here. But since COVID, I was like, 40 00:02:22,104 --> 00:02:24,224 Speaker 2: oh my god, we have to be extra clean. From 41 00:02:24,224 --> 00:02:27,544 Speaker 2: the trailer, I think we can expect some deep emotions. 42 00:02:27,544 --> 00:02:29,664 Speaker 2: It's quite a dark trailer. I know that I have 43 00:02:29,744 --> 00:02:32,064 Speaker 2: this running thing on the spill where I really do, 44 00:02:32,224 --> 00:02:35,064 Speaker 2: Like I do funny recaps of trailers and like celebrity 45 00:02:35,104 --> 00:02:36,984 Speaker 2: house tours, and I couldn't do it for this. 46 00:02:37,184 --> 00:02:38,064 Speaker 1: Oh is that bad? 47 00:02:38,264 --> 00:02:42,064 Speaker 2: It's like really it feels really emotional. I think what 48 00:02:42,104 --> 00:02:44,704 Speaker 2: they're going to do is like take everything that's happened 49 00:02:44,784 --> 00:02:48,704 Speaker 2: from season one and develop that more because it's still 50 00:02:48,784 --> 00:02:51,664 Speaker 2: part of the video game series, where they take like 51 00:02:51,704 --> 00:02:54,264 Speaker 2: part two of the video game and put that into 52 00:02:54,304 --> 00:02:56,984 Speaker 2: season two, and then after season two, I think is 53 00:02:57,024 --> 00:02:59,344 Speaker 2: where it's going to really take off. So I think 54 00:02:59,384 --> 00:03:02,024 Speaker 2: this is going to be a very big, like setup season. 55 00:03:02,544 --> 00:03:06,664 Speaker 2: The executive producers Craig Mazin and Neil Druckman told Deadline 56 00:03:06,904 --> 00:03:09,024 Speaker 2: the story that we're telling is much bigger than the 57 00:03:09,024 --> 00:03:11,864 Speaker 2: story of season one. There's just a lot more going on. 58 00:03:11,944 --> 00:03:14,064 Speaker 2: It's a lot harder to produce, but we want every 59 00:03:14,104 --> 00:03:17,104 Speaker 2: episode to feel like its own blockbuster, to be honest. 60 00:03:16,864 --> 00:03:19,344 Speaker 1: With you, amazing. I honestly just want to see Pedro 61 00:03:19,384 --> 00:03:22,904 Speaker 1: Pascal back on my TV screen. Yeah, I miss him. 62 00:03:23,104 --> 00:03:24,504 Speaker 1: He's our TV boyfriend. 63 00:03:24,544 --> 00:03:28,824 Speaker 2: He's the ultimate like girl dad. Yeah, and he just 64 00:03:28,944 --> 00:03:30,784 Speaker 2: I don't know if he has daughters, but I feel 65 00:03:30,784 --> 00:03:31,224 Speaker 2: like you should. 66 00:03:31,304 --> 00:03:34,464 Speaker 1: But I feel like he just likes women as friends. 67 00:03:34,784 --> 00:03:37,424 Speaker 2: Yeah, he likes women. Yeah, he likes women. He's not 68 00:03:37,464 --> 00:03:38,944 Speaker 2: one of those men who doesn't like women. 69 00:03:39,064 --> 00:03:39,264 Speaker 3: Yeah. 70 00:03:39,264 --> 00:03:41,064 Speaker 1: He's a good he's a good guy. He's a good 71 00:03:41,744 --> 00:03:42,744 Speaker 1: to come back girl. Dad. 72 00:03:43,144 --> 00:03:44,784 Speaker 2: Do you have any expectations for season two? 73 00:03:44,944 --> 00:03:47,424 Speaker 1: Look? I live for this kind of stuff, Like when 74 00:03:47,424 --> 00:03:49,584 Speaker 1: The Walking Dead came out, I was right into it, 75 00:03:49,664 --> 00:03:52,784 Speaker 1: and then it got a bit shark jumpy in later. 76 00:03:52,744 --> 00:03:55,224 Speaker 2: Seasons, but I'm hoping running that. 77 00:03:55,224 --> 00:03:57,864 Speaker 1: That's a favorite I know, and it was for its time, 78 00:03:57,984 --> 00:04:00,784 Speaker 1: like it still is an amazing TV show, but I 79 00:04:00,784 --> 00:04:03,144 Speaker 1: feel like this filled the gap that The Walking Dead, 80 00:04:03,464 --> 00:04:05,784 Speaker 1: even though there's since been you know, spin offs of 81 00:04:06,304 --> 00:04:08,144 Speaker 1: this filled the gap that The Walking Dead left, and 82 00:04:08,504 --> 00:04:12,864 Speaker 1: it's believable and it's weirdly scary for that, but it's 83 00:04:12,904 --> 00:04:15,824 Speaker 1: also just the characters are so good and Bella Ramsey 84 00:04:15,864 --> 00:04:18,384 Speaker 1: is amazing in it as well, and it's just I 85 00:04:18,464 --> 00:04:20,904 Speaker 1: can't wait to see where they take it, because it 86 00:04:20,944 --> 00:04:23,024 Speaker 1: was getting to that point where it was over the 87 00:04:23,064 --> 00:04:26,064 Speaker 1: first initial like the zombies he here, and now we're 88 00:04:26,064 --> 00:04:28,944 Speaker 1: going into like, you know, the world after. 89 00:04:29,144 --> 00:04:31,304 Speaker 2: I've got some good news as well, because we obviously 90 00:04:31,344 --> 00:04:33,504 Speaker 2: have Pedro Pascal and Bella Ramsey returning, but we have 91 00:04:33,544 --> 00:04:38,904 Speaker 2: some new class members, Catherine O'Hara, Moira Moira and the Mom. 92 00:04:38,744 --> 00:04:40,984 Speaker 1: From Home Alone, The Month from Home Alone. 93 00:04:41,024 --> 00:04:43,064 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's gonna be and I have You can hear 94 00:04:43,064 --> 00:04:44,744 Speaker 2: her voice in the trailer, but you don't see her. 95 00:04:45,224 --> 00:04:48,504 Speaker 2: I have a feeling she's Joels. Who's the character that 96 00:04:48,504 --> 00:04:51,224 Speaker 2: Pedro Pascal plays Joel's therapist. 97 00:04:51,464 --> 00:04:53,784 Speaker 1: Oh, they have therapists after the apocalypse. 98 00:04:53,784 --> 00:04:55,264 Speaker 2: I don't know how she gets paid, but. 99 00:04:55,744 --> 00:04:58,064 Speaker 1: Glad that we're still looking after a mental health after that. 100 00:04:58,184 --> 00:05:00,184 Speaker 2: Well, she's like a voice that's asking him a lot 101 00:05:00,184 --> 00:05:02,424 Speaker 2: of questions about his life, and I think they're gonna 102 00:05:02,584 --> 00:05:05,584 Speaker 2: dig up a lot of trauma from him, which I'm 103 00:05:05,664 --> 00:05:08,744 Speaker 2: quite interested in because he's quite a complicated character. Dark 104 00:05:08,784 --> 00:05:11,784 Speaker 2: Season can't wait. That will be out sometime next year. 105 00:05:13,504 --> 00:05:16,624 Speaker 1: All right, So we are going to talk about the 106 00:05:16,624 --> 00:05:19,904 Speaker 1: finale of a TV show, which I'm presuming if you're 107 00:05:19,904 --> 00:05:22,624 Speaker 1: listening right now, you have actually seen it. I have 108 00:05:22,744 --> 00:05:23,224 Speaker 1: not yet. 109 00:05:23,784 --> 00:05:24,864 Speaker 2: Are you watching the TV show? 110 00:05:24,864 --> 00:05:27,224 Speaker 1: I am watching the TV show. M Vernon, you have seen. 111 00:05:27,344 --> 00:05:31,584 Speaker 3: Half of the last we're talking about House of the Dragon, 112 00:05:31,624 --> 00:05:34,904 Speaker 3: which was the It was supposed to be the whole 113 00:05:34,944 --> 00:05:38,424 Speaker 3: feel of the Game of Thrones left behind when we 114 00:05:38,744 --> 00:05:41,424 Speaker 3: had that dreadful last season of. 115 00:05:41,384 --> 00:05:43,064 Speaker 2: That show, and now we've got two holes. 116 00:05:43,184 --> 00:05:45,824 Speaker 1: Now we have two holes, which is really sad because 117 00:05:46,464 --> 00:05:48,024 Speaker 1: I don't know about you and Vernon, but I went 118 00:05:48,064 --> 00:05:51,224 Speaker 1: into House of the Dragon with a Game of Thrones mindset, 119 00:05:51,224 --> 00:05:53,184 Speaker 1: and I think that might be where I've come undone, 120 00:05:53,224 --> 00:05:56,424 Speaker 1: because I was expecting it to be as intricate and 121 00:05:56,624 --> 00:06:00,184 Speaker 1: as political and as action packed as what Game of 122 00:06:00,224 --> 00:06:02,704 Speaker 1: Thrones was. And we really grew up with these characters 123 00:06:02,704 --> 00:06:06,704 Speaker 1: over time, whereas in House of the Dragon, like one 124 00:06:06,824 --> 00:06:11,384 Speaker 1: second Ranierres was like thirteen and the next she's like 125 00:06:11,424 --> 00:06:14,864 Speaker 1: twenty five. Like we meet a different person, a different actor, 126 00:06:15,424 --> 00:06:17,744 Speaker 1: And we missed a lot of that in the first 127 00:06:17,744 --> 00:06:21,184 Speaker 1: season and now this season. At least in that first season, 128 00:06:21,224 --> 00:06:22,624 Speaker 1: I think we were still in a Game of Thrones 129 00:06:22,664 --> 00:06:25,464 Speaker 1: hangover where we were desperate for information and to understand 130 00:06:25,464 --> 00:06:28,464 Speaker 1: the characters better. And so these were their ancestors, right, 131 00:06:28,944 --> 00:06:31,384 Speaker 1: the Dineries's ancestors, and we wanted to know more about them. 132 00:06:31,384 --> 00:06:32,984 Speaker 1: We wanted to know who was who and how it's 133 00:06:32,984 --> 00:06:35,224 Speaker 1: all worked together. And then like the family tree that 134 00:06:35,304 --> 00:06:37,904 Speaker 1: took us back to Denares eventually, and we were really 135 00:06:37,984 --> 00:06:43,624 Speaker 1: keen to understand the whole sort of universe at this point. Yeah, 136 00:06:43,664 --> 00:06:47,144 Speaker 1: and then we kind of realized that that's all they 137 00:06:47,184 --> 00:06:49,824 Speaker 1: were going to do. You know. 138 00:06:50,224 --> 00:06:53,624 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I love the first season of How's 139 00:06:53,624 --> 00:06:56,144 Speaker 2: the Dragon, How's of the Dragon? But I think they 140 00:06:56,184 --> 00:06:58,704 Speaker 2: had a lot of things working against them. They had 141 00:06:58,704 --> 00:07:01,984 Speaker 2: like the pressure of the last two seasons of Game 142 00:07:02,024 --> 00:07:03,624 Speaker 2: of Thrones that no one wants to talk about. It 143 00:07:04,784 --> 00:07:05,504 Speaker 2: was so bad. 144 00:07:05,584 --> 00:07:07,264 Speaker 1: Danara's got done dirty, but that's okay. 145 00:07:07,304 --> 00:07:11,064 Speaker 2: And they also had the pressure of everyone knowing what's 146 00:07:11,104 --> 00:07:13,624 Speaker 2: going to happen because they've read the books. They read 147 00:07:13,624 --> 00:07:18,464 Speaker 2: the books, and it's been published everywhere online. The Targarian 148 00:07:19,224 --> 00:07:21,424 Speaker 2: kind of family tree, So if you look at the 149 00:07:21,464 --> 00:07:24,704 Speaker 2: family tree online, you can see what actually happens, like 150 00:07:24,704 --> 00:07:26,904 Speaker 2: you don't know how it happens, but you see like 151 00:07:26,984 --> 00:07:30,744 Speaker 2: how it all flows down from this generation of Targarians 152 00:07:30,744 --> 00:07:33,984 Speaker 2: down to Denaris, who's like the last Tigerian. And I 153 00:07:34,024 --> 00:07:35,744 Speaker 2: think so they had like all of these little things 154 00:07:35,784 --> 00:07:38,304 Speaker 2: and I think they nailed it in season one. Let's 155 00:07:38,304 --> 00:07:41,504 Speaker 2: be honest, all everyone wanted was dragons. Yes, we barely 156 00:07:41,544 --> 00:07:43,904 Speaker 2: got much of the dragons in Game of Thrones, because 157 00:07:43,904 --> 00:07:46,304 Speaker 2: it was only such a small portion of the entire 158 00:07:46,304 --> 00:07:46,664 Speaker 2: game of. 159 00:07:46,584 --> 00:07:50,144 Speaker 1: There to believe that they were gone by that stand, right, 160 00:07:50,184 --> 00:07:53,384 Speaker 1: and then then of Dragons brought them back, so we only. 161 00:07:53,144 --> 00:07:55,744 Speaker 2: Got to really see the dragons. And then I think 162 00:07:55,944 --> 00:07:57,944 Speaker 2: one of the biggest critiques of Game of Thrones was 163 00:07:57,944 --> 00:08:00,304 Speaker 2: how easily the dragons were killed off because they were 164 00:08:00,344 --> 00:08:02,264 Speaker 2: meant to be like these gods, right, which is what. 165 00:08:02,744 --> 00:08:05,344 Speaker 1: It separated the Tigerians from every other family who was 166 00:08:05,384 --> 00:08:06,344 Speaker 1: buying for the throne, right. 167 00:08:06,344 --> 00:08:09,024 Speaker 2: And I think how the Dragon does that really well? 168 00:08:09,064 --> 00:08:12,584 Speaker 2: Like show the dragons as been these godly creatures that 169 00:08:12,744 --> 00:08:15,064 Speaker 2: no one can really control, and you have to respect them, 170 00:08:15,424 --> 00:08:17,704 Speaker 2: and you have to be like initiated to be a rider, 171 00:08:17,904 --> 00:08:19,424 Speaker 2: and like you have to literally put your life on 172 00:08:19,424 --> 00:08:19,664 Speaker 2: the line. 173 00:08:19,784 --> 00:08:21,904 Speaker 1: You have to have Tigarian blood otherwise and even if 174 00:08:21,944 --> 00:08:23,104 Speaker 1: you do, the dragon mighty. 175 00:08:22,944 --> 00:08:25,184 Speaker 2: You also the first person who decided to ride the 176 00:08:25,304 --> 00:08:27,064 Speaker 2: dragon is like absolutely insane. 177 00:08:27,184 --> 00:08:29,344 Speaker 1: No, you would hope it'd be like Denarius's, like they 178 00:08:29,344 --> 00:08:31,544 Speaker 1: were tiny baby dragons and grew up with you rather 179 00:08:31,584 --> 00:08:34,304 Speaker 1: than those monsters that are in this series. 180 00:08:34,424 --> 00:08:38,064 Speaker 2: Insane. So the finale, which ed a few days ago 181 00:08:38,104 --> 00:08:41,384 Speaker 2: for us. I think a lot of people were very disappointed. 182 00:08:41,464 --> 00:08:43,344 Speaker 2: And I think this because there are a lot of 183 00:08:43,384 --> 00:08:47,784 Speaker 2: critiques on the internet about it. So season one ended 184 00:08:48,064 --> 00:08:50,104 Speaker 2: with and it's going to be spoilers, some spoilers here, 185 00:08:50,104 --> 00:08:53,824 Speaker 2: but season one ended with one of Vernio's sons dying. 186 00:08:54,064 --> 00:08:56,584 Speaker 2: He goes he was killed by one of Allison's sons. 187 00:08:56,984 --> 00:09:00,544 Speaker 2: And I think everyone expected this whole next season to 188 00:09:00,704 --> 00:09:04,104 Speaker 2: be a massive war, and that war didn't happen. 189 00:09:04,224 --> 00:09:07,264 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a lot of like standing on castle 190 00:09:07,504 --> 00:09:11,304 Speaker 1: walls staring into the distance. There was lots of political 191 00:09:12,224 --> 00:09:15,784 Speaker 1: discussions happening at big tables, a lot of it. And 192 00:09:15,824 --> 00:09:17,344 Speaker 1: this is something that I don't know if it a 193 00:09:17,424 --> 00:09:19,144 Speaker 1: noise you or not, but when TV shows are just 194 00:09:19,304 --> 00:09:22,384 Speaker 1: that bit too dark that you can't watch it without 195 00:09:22,424 --> 00:09:24,384 Speaker 1: turning all the lights off and closing all the blinds 196 00:09:24,424 --> 00:09:24,864 Speaker 1: and curtain. 197 00:09:24,944 --> 00:09:26,664 Speaker 2: That was like the Battle of the Bastards and Game 198 00:09:26,704 --> 00:09:28,824 Speaker 2: of Throne. Yeah, like he's literally I don't know who's 199 00:09:28,864 --> 00:09:30,224 Speaker 2: winning because I can't I can't see. 200 00:09:30,264 --> 00:09:32,664 Speaker 1: You literally have to turn off every light sauce, and 201 00:09:32,744 --> 00:09:35,144 Speaker 1: even then it was kind of difficult to see, Like I'm. 202 00:09:35,024 --> 00:09:37,144 Speaker 2: Just looking at myself and my own reflectioning and my 203 00:09:37,304 --> 00:09:38,024 Speaker 2: shock horror. 204 00:09:39,584 --> 00:09:41,744 Speaker 1: I want to win a stand but I can't see, 205 00:09:41,984 --> 00:09:43,584 Speaker 1: so like there was a bit of that, but also 206 00:09:44,184 --> 00:09:46,664 Speaker 1: you're right, it's a complete lack of action. Like at 207 00:09:46,664 --> 00:09:49,024 Speaker 1: the very end of the second to last or the 208 00:09:49,104 --> 00:09:51,624 Speaker 1: penultimate I think is a word we use here episode 209 00:09:51,624 --> 00:09:55,344 Speaker 1: of this season, the dragon action came really back into it, 210 00:09:55,384 --> 00:09:58,064 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, okay, this is like maybe this 211 00:09:58,104 --> 00:10:01,944 Speaker 1: will be something and again spoiler. Like, the highlight of 212 00:10:01,984 --> 00:10:05,864 Speaker 1: this season is Ranera's like rounding up all the bastards 213 00:10:05,864 --> 00:10:09,424 Speaker 1: of Tigerian boys and putting them in front of the 214 00:10:09,544 --> 00:10:12,464 Speaker 1: Dragon and being like, off, you go see if they like. 215 00:10:13,064 --> 00:10:15,104 Speaker 1: I think she wanders off to a balcony and watches 216 00:10:15,144 --> 00:10:16,304 Speaker 1: them all turnt to toast. 217 00:10:16,384 --> 00:10:18,224 Speaker 2: It was the most like boss move for her. But 218 00:10:18,344 --> 00:10:20,464 Speaker 2: I think with this finale, I have only seen half 219 00:10:20,504 --> 00:10:23,224 Speaker 2: because I will admit I did get bored, mainly because 220 00:10:23,304 --> 00:10:26,144 Speaker 2: I was expecting a massive war to take place, but 221 00:10:26,264 --> 00:10:28,184 Speaker 2: every scene was just leading up to the war. So 222 00:10:28,184 --> 00:10:30,424 Speaker 2: I think the war will really take place in season three, 223 00:10:30,664 --> 00:10:32,944 Speaker 2: which will be like in two years. But I think 224 00:10:32,944 --> 00:10:35,464 Speaker 2: the pressure of a finale can sometimes be the enemy 225 00:10:35,504 --> 00:10:40,984 Speaker 2: of good storytelling because watching now retrospectively, the first half 226 00:10:41,064 --> 00:10:43,264 Speaker 2: of the last episode of season two that I watched 227 00:10:43,624 --> 00:10:46,144 Speaker 2: was actually a good episode, but because it was a 228 00:10:46,144 --> 00:10:50,304 Speaker 2: finale episode, I had much higher expectations for it, and 229 00:10:50,344 --> 00:10:52,464 Speaker 2: I wanted a war. I wanted battles. I wanted to 230 00:10:52,504 --> 00:10:54,904 Speaker 2: see dragons everywhere, which you do kind of get a 231 00:10:54,904 --> 00:10:56,904 Speaker 2: glimpse at. But because it didn't give me what I 232 00:10:56,904 --> 00:11:00,424 Speaker 2: wanted for a finale, I wasn't impressed. And also with 233 00:11:00,504 --> 00:11:03,064 Speaker 2: the added knowing that I'm going to be waiting another 234 00:11:03,104 --> 00:11:03,704 Speaker 2: two years. 235 00:11:04,104 --> 00:11:08,024 Speaker 1: But also of Thrones did finale so good? Just mind 236 00:11:08,104 --> 00:11:11,544 Speaker 1: us the last one, but like every season ended so well, 237 00:11:12,024 --> 00:11:15,424 Speaker 1: it absolutely left you hanging for the next season, whereas 238 00:11:15,464 --> 00:11:17,944 Speaker 1: this one. And I, like completely honest have not watched 239 00:11:17,944 --> 00:11:20,464 Speaker 1: this finale as yet have watched the second to last. 240 00:11:20,784 --> 00:11:23,904 Speaker 2: But it feels like that one also ended really well. 241 00:11:23,904 --> 00:11:26,344 Speaker 1: Season one ended well, and this feels like I haven't 242 00:11:26,384 --> 00:11:28,184 Speaker 1: been given anything to hang my hat on yet. 243 00:11:28,304 --> 00:11:32,024 Speaker 2: Yeah. I hope season three gives us all we want, 244 00:11:32,024 --> 00:11:34,384 Speaker 2: because I think what this season has done well without 245 00:11:34,424 --> 00:11:37,784 Speaker 2: the fighting is that it built up the relationships to 246 00:11:37,864 --> 00:11:41,504 Speaker 2: be like super intense, so when they do eventually clash, 247 00:11:41,664 --> 00:11:43,664 Speaker 2: it's going to feel more. 248 00:11:43,904 --> 00:11:46,504 Speaker 1: Does that make say, maybe maybe that's if you haven't 249 00:11:46,504 --> 00:11:48,824 Speaker 1: spent the entire two series already trying to figure out 250 00:11:48,824 --> 00:11:52,344 Speaker 1: who's who because everyone's knowing sounds kind of the same name. 251 00:11:52,424 --> 00:11:53,024 Speaker 2: I don't know what. 252 00:11:53,464 --> 00:11:54,344 Speaker 1: It's really hard. 253 00:11:54,504 --> 00:11:56,024 Speaker 2: It's like it's like the role family. 254 00:11:56,104 --> 00:11:59,144 Speaker 1: You absolutely have to study hard to watch this. I 255 00:11:59,184 --> 00:12:02,304 Speaker 1: also feel like this season has maybe missed something that 256 00:12:02,344 --> 00:12:04,544 Speaker 1: we used to get all the time in Game of Thrones, 257 00:12:04,584 --> 00:12:08,384 Speaker 1: and a little bit in series one is like good 258 00:12:08,824 --> 00:12:13,184 Speaker 1: romance slash sex. What sex scenes were good in Game 259 00:12:13,224 --> 00:12:16,864 Speaker 1: of Thrones, I don't know, Like it was just we 260 00:12:16,984 --> 00:12:20,584 Speaker 1: felt like that there was something more to those relationships, 261 00:12:20,624 --> 00:12:23,544 Speaker 1: and the only real sex scenes we've had in this 262 00:12:23,664 --> 00:12:26,864 Speaker 1: series has been like weird visions that Damon's been having 263 00:12:26,904 --> 00:12:30,024 Speaker 1: that involve his mom, which is like, it's not cool, man, Like, 264 00:12:30,544 --> 00:12:32,544 Speaker 1: I get that there's a lot of incest discussion. 265 00:12:32,584 --> 00:12:35,344 Speaker 2: I love how it's like what type of incest is wrong? 266 00:12:36,104 --> 00:12:38,744 Speaker 2: Mom and son? Wrong? Simply discabling fine. 267 00:12:39,704 --> 00:12:41,824 Speaker 1: When you're in this universe, I guess yea to like 268 00:12:41,864 --> 00:12:42,704 Speaker 1: you have to pick a side. 269 00:12:42,744 --> 00:12:44,384 Speaker 2: You know what I think you're annoyed about it is 270 00:12:44,384 --> 00:12:47,264 Speaker 2: because we just jumped off Bridgeton which had beautiful sex 271 00:12:47,304 --> 00:12:49,624 Speaker 2: scenes and I think you yeah, I think sex scenes 272 00:12:49,664 --> 00:12:52,504 Speaker 2: like that, which, if you remember correctly, there's none of 273 00:12:52,504 --> 00:12:54,464 Speaker 2: that in the original Game of Thrones series. 274 00:12:54,744 --> 00:12:56,344 Speaker 1: Okay, now that I think about it, it was all quite 275 00:12:56,424 --> 00:12:58,904 Speaker 1: violent and sometimes a videochy, but I just like, there 276 00:12:58,944 --> 00:13:02,464 Speaker 1: was just nothing personal like that, you know what I mean. 277 00:13:03,024 --> 00:13:06,264 Speaker 1: I'm sounding all shades of wrong. I'm so sorry, but 278 00:13:05,984 --> 00:13:07,704 Speaker 1: like his mom, just. 279 00:13:07,864 --> 00:13:09,944 Speaker 2: No, no, we can give them fever. I'll give them that. 280 00:13:09,984 --> 00:13:12,064 Speaker 1: Yeah. Bad So. 281 00:13:12,144 --> 00:13:15,104 Speaker 2: We will be doing a brutally honest review of this 282 00:13:15,184 --> 00:13:18,504 Speaker 2: season of Housard Dragons. I can't wait to finish the 283 00:13:18,584 --> 00:13:22,984 Speaker 2: last episode. Good luck, stay tuned for that. Naa, I've 284 00:13:23,024 --> 00:13:25,344 Speaker 2: got some great news for you. Hit me a Brittany 285 00:13:25,344 --> 00:13:30,264 Speaker 2: baby one more time, just pretending that we didn't talk 286 00:13:30,264 --> 00:13:33,144 Speaker 2: about this before recording the podcast. Got some great news 287 00:13:33,144 --> 00:13:39,784 Speaker 2: for your Claire, just for you. A Britney Spears biopic 288 00:13:40,104 --> 00:13:43,184 Speaker 2: Yes is in the works. Love that we love it so. 289 00:13:43,344 --> 00:13:46,304 Speaker 2: Brittany a few days tweeted, excited to share with my 290 00:13:46,344 --> 00:13:48,784 Speaker 2: fans that I've been working on a secret project with 291 00:13:49,064 --> 00:13:51,944 Speaker 2: hashtag Mark Platt. He probably doesn't have an account, that's 292 00:13:51,944 --> 00:13:54,784 Speaker 2: why she has hashtag. He's always made my favorite movies 293 00:13:54,904 --> 00:13:59,944 Speaker 2: dot Dot Dot stay tuned. So I was looking into 294 00:13:59,984 --> 00:14:03,624 Speaker 2: this because I, Okay, I'm just not the Britney generation. 295 00:14:03,744 --> 00:14:06,384 Speaker 2: So I actually don't know much about her until I 296 00:14:06,464 --> 00:14:08,984 Speaker 2: read her memoir Women and Me, and then I was like, 297 00:14:09,264 --> 00:14:10,144 Speaker 2: I know a lot about her. 298 00:14:10,544 --> 00:14:10,984 Speaker 1: So I was. 299 00:14:10,904 --> 00:14:15,784 Speaker 2: Looking into this because her memoir was massive bestseller, and 300 00:14:16,304 --> 00:14:18,744 Speaker 2: last year it was reported that there was a massive 301 00:14:18,784 --> 00:14:22,344 Speaker 2: bidding war amongst high like a list of celebrities over 302 00:14:22,384 --> 00:14:23,864 Speaker 2: who gets the rights to it. 303 00:14:23,904 --> 00:14:25,744 Speaker 1: Is this funny that we know this now, right, because 304 00:14:25,784 --> 00:14:29,384 Speaker 1: Reese Witherspoon really outed how this whole process worked. Remember 305 00:14:29,384 --> 00:14:33,224 Speaker 1: when she started her company and she was like, she's 306 00:14:33,344 --> 00:14:36,024 Speaker 1: in there bidding for all these incredible stories to turn 307 00:14:36,024 --> 00:14:38,784 Speaker 1: into movies. That's how she's been making some really incredible 308 00:14:38,824 --> 00:14:40,304 Speaker 1: films and TV shows in the last time. 309 00:14:40,384 --> 00:14:42,504 Speaker 2: Ye yeah. And she also leverages that off her book 310 00:14:42,504 --> 00:14:45,144 Speaker 2: club right. She tells authors that like, if you give 311 00:14:45,184 --> 00:14:47,024 Speaker 2: me the adaptation rights, I'll use you in my book 312 00:14:47,024 --> 00:14:48,784 Speaker 2: clubs and then a movie out of it. 313 00:14:48,864 --> 00:14:51,704 Speaker 1: So who was hitting at Brittany for her memoir? I 314 00:14:51,704 --> 00:14:54,024 Speaker 1: wonder if Heeese Witherspoon was one of the contenders. 315 00:14:54,184 --> 00:14:56,344 Speaker 2: Reese Witherspoon's like, Hey, Brittany, I'll include you in my 316 00:14:56,384 --> 00:14:56,864 Speaker 2: book club. 317 00:14:56,864 --> 00:14:58,704 Speaker 1: If you can meet the A Freeze like cool cis, 318 00:14:59,144 --> 00:14:59,984 Speaker 1: I'll check you. So. 319 00:15:00,064 --> 00:15:01,864 Speaker 2: Reese Witherspoon was actually one of them, as well as 320 00:15:01,864 --> 00:15:05,664 Speaker 2: Margot Robbie brad Pitt and Shonda Rhimes. Like amazing. It 321 00:15:05,704 --> 00:15:08,944 Speaker 2: was sold to Universal Pictures and it's been directed by 322 00:15:09,104 --> 00:15:12,624 Speaker 2: John m chu He directed Crazy Rich Asians and the 323 00:15:12,704 --> 00:15:16,744 Speaker 2: upcoming Wicked films. So people are saying that because he's directing, 324 00:15:16,784 --> 00:15:21,024 Speaker 2: it might not be a super dark film adaptation, because 325 00:15:21,064 --> 00:15:23,624 Speaker 2: I would assume and I think most people would like 326 00:15:24,104 --> 00:15:25,264 Speaker 2: her Mama was quite. 327 00:15:25,144 --> 00:15:27,184 Speaker 1: Dark, it was, and his movie is are very bright shiny. 328 00:15:27,264 --> 00:15:29,184 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, is it going to be a musical? 329 00:15:30,424 --> 00:15:33,544 Speaker 1: Please? I think it would go off as a musical. 330 00:15:33,624 --> 00:15:36,104 Speaker 1: I think would do really well, Like she does broke 331 00:15:36,224 --> 00:15:38,464 Speaker 1: some pretty serious topics. Can that be a musical? 332 00:15:38,704 --> 00:15:41,744 Speaker 2: And just like knowing Britney because they're besties, Yeah, I 333 00:15:41,784 --> 00:15:44,144 Speaker 2: think she'd wanted to be a fun musical. I love 334 00:15:44,184 --> 00:15:46,984 Speaker 2: that about you and I'm so happy she tweeted because 335 00:15:47,304 --> 00:15:49,584 Speaker 2: I feel like she's going to be really involved and 336 00:15:49,584 --> 00:15:51,904 Speaker 2: it's her narrative, which is a whole premise of her memoir. 337 00:15:52,184 --> 00:15:53,384 Speaker 2: We can't just take it from her and. 338 00:15:53,504 --> 00:15:57,184 Speaker 1: Be like, thanks, we'll make a movie. But no, it's interesting, 339 00:15:57,224 --> 00:16:01,824 Speaker 1: isn't it, Because we've seen memoirs or people's stories really 340 00:16:01,824 --> 00:16:04,424 Speaker 1: taken from them and turned into things that they haven't 341 00:16:04,584 --> 00:16:07,024 Speaker 1: liked over time. So I like that she is involved 342 00:16:07,024 --> 00:16:09,104 Speaker 1: because she hasn't been in control of her life for 343 00:16:09,104 --> 00:16:11,984 Speaker 1: so long and will arguably even now. Don't think that 344 00:16:12,024 --> 00:16:16,264 Speaker 1: she's still really in control at the moment, considering some 345 00:16:16,344 --> 00:16:17,984 Speaker 1: of the things that she posts on social media. But 346 00:16:18,264 --> 00:16:21,184 Speaker 1: if she's like in the background doing these crazy deals 347 00:16:21,224 --> 00:16:24,504 Speaker 1: and making money and you know, still in the game, 348 00:16:24,544 --> 00:16:26,024 Speaker 1: then good on her. I like that. 349 00:16:26,184 --> 00:16:28,104 Speaker 2: And I think the best thing about this because I'm 350 00:16:28,104 --> 00:16:31,224 Speaker 2: actually not a big fan of celebrities producing their own 351 00:16:31,664 --> 00:16:34,384 Speaker 2: movies about themselves. I didn't really like it with Elton 352 00:16:34,504 --> 00:16:38,224 Speaker 2: John because it felt like he was just making himself 353 00:16:38,264 --> 00:16:40,664 Speaker 2: to be like this best person. 354 00:16:41,264 --> 00:16:44,624 Speaker 1: I liked the magic that having Elton John included in 355 00:16:44,664 --> 00:16:47,224 Speaker 1: his own story broad because I don't think they would 356 00:16:47,264 --> 00:16:49,904 Speaker 1: have made what they made without him. It has that 357 00:16:50,024 --> 00:16:54,784 Speaker 1: real flair and that real passion that he obviously sees 358 00:16:54,864 --> 00:16:57,464 Speaker 1: himself that way. So this is the thing about a 359 00:16:57,464 --> 00:16:59,624 Speaker 1: biopic is you want to know how that celebrity sees 360 00:16:59,624 --> 00:17:03,504 Speaker 1: themselves with a little bit of obviously real life thrown 361 00:17:03,544 --> 00:17:05,984 Speaker 1: in for good measure. I'm really interested to see how 362 00:17:06,024 --> 00:17:08,304 Speaker 1: Britney sees herself. But I'm also interest see how some 363 00:17:08,344 --> 00:17:09,624 Speaker 1: of these stories are going to play out in a 364 00:17:09,624 --> 00:17:13,384 Speaker 1: biopic because people have been threatening some legal action and 365 00:17:13,544 --> 00:17:15,024 Speaker 1: how's Justin Timberlake. 366 00:17:14,624 --> 00:17:15,464 Speaker 2: Going to take it? 367 00:17:15,504 --> 00:17:17,584 Speaker 1: Did not go down well for him in book form. 368 00:17:17,624 --> 00:17:19,144 Speaker 1: I don't imagine it's going to go down well for 369 00:17:19,224 --> 00:17:20,944 Speaker 1: him in movie form either. 370 00:17:21,024 --> 00:17:22,184 Speaker 2: I wonder who's gonna play him? 371 00:17:22,224 --> 00:17:23,664 Speaker 1: Who have played Justin Timberlake? 372 00:17:23,824 --> 00:17:26,104 Speaker 2: You know who? I'm saying, Glen Powell. Glenn. 373 00:17:26,144 --> 00:17:27,184 Speaker 1: Of course it's Glenn Powell. 374 00:17:27,224 --> 00:17:28,144 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think in Nail It. 375 00:17:28,144 --> 00:17:29,944 Speaker 1: But he's a bit too old to play young Justine. 376 00:17:30,224 --> 00:17:32,384 Speaker 1: You need a young guy. Oh he is a timidate 377 00:17:32,424 --> 00:17:33,584 Speaker 1: Shallame kind of guy. Right. 378 00:17:33,664 --> 00:17:36,664 Speaker 2: Oh God, he's oversaturated, but he be perfect. Who do 379 00:17:36,664 --> 00:17:37,744 Speaker 2: you think is going to play Brittany? 380 00:17:38,144 --> 00:17:39,504 Speaker 1: That is the million dollar question? 381 00:17:39,744 --> 00:17:41,064 Speaker 2: Everyone's saying Sidney Sweeney. 382 00:17:41,344 --> 00:17:45,824 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe Sabrina Carpenter jumps to mind, just because she 383 00:17:45,864 --> 00:17:47,664 Speaker 1: can sing. If it is a musical, then that would 384 00:17:47,704 --> 00:17:49,344 Speaker 1: be great. I don't know how good a singer Sidney 385 00:17:49,344 --> 00:17:52,184 Speaker 1: Sweeney is, but she might be good. I wanted to 386 00:17:52,224 --> 00:17:53,704 Speaker 1: be as good as I don't know. If you remember 387 00:17:53,744 --> 00:17:56,504 Speaker 1: when Samantha Jade played Kylie Minogue in The Inexcess Or 388 00:17:56,504 --> 00:18:00,424 Speaker 1: the Michael Hutchins biopic. That was so good you could 389 00:18:00,464 --> 00:18:03,104 Speaker 1: be forgiven for thinking she was Kylie Minogue. Really she 390 00:18:03,264 --> 00:18:07,024 Speaker 1: sounded like her, she looked like her, Like she's tiny built, 391 00:18:07,104 --> 00:18:10,104 Speaker 1: same as Kylie. Like. It was just that was wild. 392 00:18:10,144 --> 00:18:12,224 Speaker 1: How good that was. I want someone is that good? 393 00:18:12,304 --> 00:18:14,784 Speaker 1: But do you know what? Ariana Grande is a great impersonation. 394 00:18:14,984 --> 00:18:17,704 Speaker 2: I think I actually think it might be Arina Grande, 395 00:18:17,784 --> 00:18:20,584 Speaker 2: especially because John m chu is directing and she's like 396 00:18:20,624 --> 00:18:22,464 Speaker 2: starring in Wicked that he's also directing. 397 00:18:22,784 --> 00:18:25,584 Speaker 1: Maybe hmmm, well that makes sense. But also there's some 398 00:18:25,664 --> 00:18:29,864 Speaker 1: great Brittany impersonators out there. Derek Barry drag Queen plays 399 00:18:29,904 --> 00:18:32,984 Speaker 1: Britney God. That would be insane, that would be so cool. 400 00:18:34,344 --> 00:18:36,584 Speaker 1: Maybe if you're too old for young Brittany, but maybe 401 00:18:36,664 --> 00:18:37,464 Speaker 1: older who knows. 402 00:18:37,664 --> 00:18:39,864 Speaker 2: I want Brittany to just be like, it's all right, guys, 403 00:18:39,904 --> 00:18:41,744 Speaker 2: I'll do it. Yeah, I'll do it. 404 00:18:41,744 --> 00:18:43,464 Speaker 1: It's gonna be like Crossroads all over again. 405 00:18:43,544 --> 00:18:47,184 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're tired. I've heard what you said. Don't worry, 406 00:18:47,224 --> 00:18:47,664 Speaker 2: I've got this. 407 00:18:48,264 --> 00:18:49,984 Speaker 1: I also want to know how far are we going, 408 00:18:50,024 --> 00:18:53,224 Speaker 1: Like are we recreating Dancing with Knives? Are we taking 409 00:18:53,224 --> 00:18:54,424 Speaker 1: a ride up to like today? 410 00:18:54,584 --> 00:18:56,864 Speaker 2: It's hard right, because it's obviously a whole life With 411 00:18:56,984 --> 00:18:59,744 Speaker 2: her memoir, I have a feeling they're going to focus 412 00:18:59,824 --> 00:19:01,824 Speaker 2: on her relationship with Justin tim Blake. I think that 413 00:19:01,904 --> 00:19:04,104 Speaker 2: was the biggest thing that came out of the book, 414 00:19:04,264 --> 00:19:06,944 Speaker 2: which is also what worries me about celebrities producing their 415 00:19:06,984 --> 00:19:11,104 Speaker 2: own movie adaptations, is if she is comfortable with that, 416 00:19:11,624 --> 00:19:14,024 Speaker 2: maybe they won't because we know we're in the industry, 417 00:19:14,104 --> 00:19:16,624 Speaker 2: Like sometimes what you write, you're not totally comfortable saying 418 00:19:16,664 --> 00:19:17,224 Speaker 2: that out loud. 419 00:19:17,304 --> 00:19:20,824 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. But also is she willing to bring 420 00:19:20,944 --> 00:19:23,184 Speaker 1: that up again after going through the sort of storm 421 00:19:23,424 --> 00:19:26,064 Speaker 1: of media attention to God after the book came out, 422 00:19:26,064 --> 00:19:28,064 Speaker 1: because like she had to really defend a lot of 423 00:19:28,064 --> 00:19:31,424 Speaker 1: it and apologize for some things too. So I don't know, 424 00:19:31,704 --> 00:19:33,224 Speaker 1: be interesting to see, but I think a lot of 425 00:19:33,224 --> 00:19:35,064 Speaker 1: the focus too, will be on how she was treated, 426 00:19:35,184 --> 00:19:36,904 Speaker 1: Like can you imagine what it'd be like to live 427 00:19:36,904 --> 00:19:39,944 Speaker 1: in Britney's skin? For that time and be just hunted 428 00:19:39,984 --> 00:19:44,104 Speaker 1: by people and being asked the most wildly inappropriate things 429 00:19:44,264 --> 00:19:46,584 Speaker 1: for a young girl to be asked on you know, 430 00:19:46,664 --> 00:19:50,024 Speaker 1: national television by people who were twice three times their age. Like, 431 00:19:50,904 --> 00:19:52,664 Speaker 1: I reckon it'll really focus in on how she was 432 00:19:52,704 --> 00:19:54,504 Speaker 1: treated in that time and how it felt to be 433 00:19:54,864 --> 00:19:57,104 Speaker 1: not in control, and then of course the whole relationship 434 00:19:57,144 --> 00:20:00,584 Speaker 1: with her family and the conservativeship and breaking free of that. Like, 435 00:20:01,104 --> 00:20:03,264 Speaker 1: She's got such an interesting story and would be really 436 00:20:03,264 --> 00:20:05,264 Speaker 1: interesting to see it play out on TV. 437 00:20:05,384 --> 00:20:07,144 Speaker 2: I think maybe it won't be a musical. 438 00:20:07,864 --> 00:20:11,304 Speaker 1: It's a bit too dark for Sichol, don't we think. 439 00:20:11,584 --> 00:20:12,544 Speaker 2: I mean Elton Don did it. 440 00:20:12,664 --> 00:20:15,504 Speaker 1: That's so true and he told some pretty dark tales 441 00:20:15,504 --> 00:20:17,624 Speaker 1: and I'm still there too. You never know, we'll see. 442 00:20:17,984 --> 00:20:20,504 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Spill today, friends, This is 443 00:20:20,504 --> 00:20:23,184 Speaker 1: my last episode of the Spill for the time being. 444 00:20:23,224 --> 00:20:24,544 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. 445 00:20:24,664 --> 00:20:27,664 Speaker 2: Thanks for being here. Thanks to Laura in person, which 446 00:20:27,704 --> 00:20:29,824 Speaker 2: I need to call out because claim ape you're not 447 00:20:29,824 --> 00:20:30,704 Speaker 2: always here in person. 448 00:20:30,864 --> 00:20:33,664 Speaker 1: No, I do live in the regions, girl, so I 449 00:20:33,744 --> 00:20:35,544 Speaker 1: came down here just to spend time with you in 450 00:20:35,584 --> 00:20:38,104 Speaker 1: this year. I love please, Thank you to Laura Ronnick 451 00:20:38,144 --> 00:20:40,424 Speaker 1: for being in a cave with monkey monkeys. 452 00:20:40,464 --> 00:20:42,424 Speaker 2: I think yep, we'll fact check that. 453 00:20:42,544 --> 00:20:45,944 Speaker 1: We'll let you know if she's okay. There's somebody else 454 00:20:45,944 --> 00:20:47,664 Speaker 1: stepping into my shoes and they better be good. 455 00:20:47,704 --> 00:20:49,424 Speaker 2: Don't worry, spillers, You're not going to be getting a 456 00:20:49,424 --> 00:20:52,144 Speaker 2: solo me. Oh god, no one will want that. Ash 457 00:20:52,144 --> 00:20:54,744 Speaker 2: London's going to be filling in front of the poste. 458 00:20:54,744 --> 00:20:56,784 Speaker 2: He's been on a few times. We love her over here. 459 00:20:57,744 --> 00:21:01,904 Speaker 2: And you also host our daily news podcast I do. 460 00:21:02,304 --> 00:21:04,744 Speaker 1: And for those of you who are mad about the 461 00:21:04,744 --> 00:21:08,024 Speaker 1: Paris Games, just keep tuning in because we freaking love it. 462 00:21:08,144 --> 00:21:10,664 Speaker 1: And you've got so many great stories coming out of Harris, 463 00:21:11,064 --> 00:21:15,344 Speaker 1: essentially the TikTok Games, So keep listening Quickie grevyach podcasts 464 00:21:15,384 --> 00:21:17,904 Speaker 1: and the spill We'll see you on momamea dot com 465 00:21:17,944 --> 00:21:20,104 Speaker 1: dot you and back here in your podcast speech three 466 00:21:20,144 --> 00:21:21,904 Speaker 1: pm tomorrow. Bye bye,