1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:11,474 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:15,434 --> 00:00:16,914 Speaker 2: Makeup is My Therapy. 3 00:00:17,154 --> 00:00:20,194 Speaker 1: I'm in love, I'm obsess and I don't even feel 4 00:00:20,233 --> 00:00:26,553 Speaker 1: guilty about it. Nona, Hello, and welcome to you Beauty, 5 00:00:26,594 --> 00:00:29,874 Speaker 1: the Podcast for Your Face. I'm Kelly McCarran and welcome 6 00:00:30,074 --> 00:00:34,034 Speaker 1: to the Formula Today. What a treat because we have 7 00:00:34,193 --> 00:00:38,434 Speaker 1: the delightful Hannah Collingwood English back on the show. She 8 00:00:38,473 --> 00:00:40,554 Speaker 1: hasn't been on for a while now, so we thought 9 00:00:40,553 --> 00:00:42,354 Speaker 1: it was about time that we had a good old 10 00:00:42,394 --> 00:00:46,034 Speaker 1: fashioned catch up. For those of you who don't know Hannah, 11 00:00:46,034 --> 00:00:49,634 Speaker 1: she's a Melbourne based pharmaceutical scientist and author of Your 12 00:00:49,674 --> 00:00:53,273 Speaker 1: Best Skin and is one of Australia's leading content creators 13 00:00:53,273 --> 00:00:57,953 Speaker 1: around skincare science, sun safety and evidence based skincare education. 14 00:00:58,314 --> 00:01:02,633 Speaker 1: Today we are asking about her current routine, what's changed 15 00:01:02,674 --> 00:01:04,754 Speaker 1: over the last few years, and we are also going 16 00:01:04,794 --> 00:01:07,994 Speaker 1: to peek into her DMS and discuss the most common 17 00:01:08,194 --> 00:01:11,754 Speaker 1: questions that she gets, the beauty misinformation hill, she's willing 18 00:01:11,794 --> 00:01:15,754 Speaker 1: to die on, her favorite unsexy product recommendations, and who 19 00:01:15,874 --> 00:01:20,114 Speaker 1: she actually follows for trustworthy beauty content. Let's get into it. 20 00:01:20,674 --> 00:01:27,234 Speaker 1: You are such beautiful skin, but how welcome back Hannah 21 00:01:27,234 --> 00:01:30,714 Speaker 1: English to you beauty, thank you for having me. Please 22 00:01:30,954 --> 00:01:33,434 Speaker 1: catch us up on your routine because it's been a 23 00:01:33,514 --> 00:01:36,354 Speaker 1: while since you've been in the studio, So talk to 24 00:01:36,434 --> 00:01:38,994 Speaker 1: us about your current skincare routine, what you're using and 25 00:01:39,034 --> 00:01:42,714 Speaker 1: loving right now. Has it changed much over the past years. 26 00:01:42,754 --> 00:01:45,034 Speaker 1: We were talking before we started recording that it was 27 00:01:45,034 --> 00:01:48,034 Speaker 1: about December twenty twenty four, Yeah, that you last were 28 00:01:48,074 --> 00:01:49,874 Speaker 1: on so for a. 29 00:01:49,794 --> 00:01:53,194 Speaker 3: While, have had so much drama with my skin. 30 00:01:53,354 --> 00:01:56,354 Speaker 2: Actually, So I had like perioral dermatitis and then it 31 00:01:56,394 --> 00:01:58,354 Speaker 2: went away and then it came back again like six 32 00:01:58,394 --> 00:02:01,634 Speaker 2: months later. I was on antibiotics for a long time, 33 00:02:02,154 --> 00:02:05,754 Speaker 2: and then another medication created all this acne, so I 34 00:02:05,754 --> 00:02:09,154 Speaker 2: had to go on like metologist acne medication. So it's 35 00:02:09,194 --> 00:02:11,954 Speaker 2: been a little bit all over the place. And like 36 00:02:11,994 --> 00:02:13,754 Speaker 2: even when you know what you're doing things. 37 00:02:13,514 --> 00:02:16,594 Speaker 1: A shit still hits the fans, they say. 38 00:02:16,674 --> 00:02:21,394 Speaker 2: Like it's relentless, So using pretty gentle things. I had 39 00:02:21,554 --> 00:02:24,633 Speaker 2: acne and perioral dermatitis at the same time for a bit, 40 00:02:25,274 --> 00:02:25,794 Speaker 2: so that was. 41 00:02:25,994 --> 00:02:27,994 Speaker 1: It was fun. Yeah, yeah, I really you know what 42 00:02:28,234 --> 00:02:30,394 Speaker 1: set off your perial dermatitis? 43 00:02:30,634 --> 00:02:33,474 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got really sick and it was really bad. 44 00:02:33,514 --> 00:02:35,474 Speaker 2: Like I lost a bunch of weight. I couldn't eat 45 00:02:35,674 --> 00:02:38,114 Speaker 2: for like a week. Then your immune system goes crazy 46 00:02:38,154 --> 00:02:41,634 Speaker 2: and that can throw on your skins. So yeah, about 47 00:02:42,034 --> 00:02:45,954 Speaker 2: three months later it just all kicked off, which seems 48 00:02:45,954 --> 00:02:48,434 Speaker 2: to be a pattern, Like every time I've had it, 49 00:02:48,434 --> 00:02:51,194 Speaker 2: it's because I've been sick, and then a little bit 50 00:02:51,314 --> 00:02:54,194 Speaker 2: later it's been like okay, go time. 51 00:02:54,674 --> 00:02:57,794 Speaker 1: Yeah. It's always really interesting how much what's going on 52 00:02:57,874 --> 00:03:00,514 Speaker 1: in our body can then show up, even just like 53 00:03:00,954 --> 00:03:05,994 Speaker 1: mentally sometimes stress, Yes, stress, My skin looks awful when 54 00:03:06,034 --> 00:03:09,874 Speaker 1: I'm stressed, Like just it looks how I feel like, eh. 55 00:03:09,874 --> 00:03:12,994 Speaker 2: Yeah, and like that makes you more stressed exactly, then 56 00:03:13,074 --> 00:03:16,114 Speaker 2: it makes it worse exactly Here can I Live. 57 00:03:17,314 --> 00:03:20,434 Speaker 1: You're known for your sun's safety advocacy, and we talk 58 00:03:20,514 --> 00:03:23,194 Speaker 1: a lot on the podcast about how a tan is 59 00:03:23,274 --> 00:03:26,274 Speaker 1: just your skin cells in trauma and the only healthy 60 00:03:26,314 --> 00:03:28,714 Speaker 1: tan is a fake one. But you decided to stop 61 00:03:28,834 --> 00:03:32,794 Speaker 1: using fake tan products. What's that process been like and 62 00:03:33,314 --> 00:03:35,274 Speaker 1: why did you initially make that decision. 63 00:03:35,674 --> 00:03:38,234 Speaker 2: I spoke to the Cancer Council when they were sort 64 00:03:38,234 --> 00:03:41,914 Speaker 2: of pulling together their end the Trend campaign, and they 65 00:03:41,994 --> 00:03:46,914 Speaker 2: said they had data that like fake tan still contributes 66 00:03:47,034 --> 00:03:51,834 Speaker 2: to that beauty standard that for Australia, you know, blonde ten, 67 00:03:52,034 --> 00:03:54,274 Speaker 2: and I think that is changing because we're a lot 68 00:03:54,314 --> 00:03:59,714 Speaker 2: more diverse now. But the mindset of like, oh I 69 00:03:59,794 --> 00:04:02,514 Speaker 2: look ugly, I need to fake tan, or I can't 70 00:04:02,514 --> 00:04:05,474 Speaker 2: wear that because I need to fake tan, and like 71 00:04:06,234 --> 00:04:09,114 Speaker 2: how tiring, you know. So I was like, Okay, if 72 00:04:09,154 --> 00:04:12,074 Speaker 2: I'm going to be doing advocacy for sun safety, then 73 00:04:12,154 --> 00:04:16,594 Speaker 2: I'm not sure that fake tan really gels with that anymore. 74 00:04:16,634 --> 00:04:19,674 Speaker 2: So unfortunately I have to walk the walk and it 75 00:04:19,753 --> 00:04:22,714 Speaker 2: was really hard at first. But it was around like 76 00:04:23,154 --> 00:04:25,753 Speaker 2: I got married early twenty twenty three. So we just 77 00:04:25,753 --> 00:04:27,553 Speaker 2: had our three year anniversary. 78 00:04:27,113 --> 00:04:30,993 Speaker 1: Yesterday, congratulations, thank you. I know how time, but it 79 00:04:31,113 --> 00:04:34,113 Speaker 1: really goes wild. Yeah, we were saying that I am 80 00:04:34,154 --> 00:04:36,593 Speaker 1: a teen mum and you are twenty one. 81 00:04:37,034 --> 00:04:38,474 Speaker 3: It's we're doing what we can. 82 00:04:38,594 --> 00:04:40,553 Speaker 1: We're so accomplished, we very are. 83 00:04:42,474 --> 00:04:45,393 Speaker 2: So I didn't fake ten over the summer before the 84 00:04:45,393 --> 00:04:47,553 Speaker 2: wedding because I wanted to like make sure the body 85 00:04:47,594 --> 00:04:50,113 Speaker 2: care was all in order, couldn't have that complicating factor, 86 00:04:50,274 --> 00:04:52,594 Speaker 2: And then didn't want to have like old fake ten 87 00:04:52,633 --> 00:04:55,753 Speaker 2: when I was having my wedding spray tan, and so 88 00:04:55,794 --> 00:04:57,593 Speaker 2: I kind of got a bit used to it anyway, 89 00:04:57,834 --> 00:04:59,834 Speaker 2: so I was like, Okay, I can try. And then 90 00:04:59,953 --> 00:05:03,873 Speaker 2: now it's been two years, so I think also changing 91 00:05:03,873 --> 00:05:07,633 Speaker 2: my hair color to not this warm blonde that really 92 00:05:07,633 --> 00:05:12,354 Speaker 2: didn't suit me unless I had that probably helped. I 93 00:05:12,393 --> 00:05:14,713 Speaker 2: think I only faked ten a couple of times after 94 00:05:14,753 --> 00:05:17,674 Speaker 2: I went the dark and red because it just didn't 95 00:05:17,714 --> 00:05:21,193 Speaker 2: feel like I needed to anymore as well. So it's 96 00:05:21,234 --> 00:05:25,634 Speaker 2: been an interesting journey. But yeah, I can't be saying, oh, 97 00:05:25,674 --> 00:05:28,594 Speaker 2: I'm ugly without a ten and then telling people tenning. 98 00:05:28,433 --> 00:05:28,914 Speaker 3: Is bad for you. 99 00:05:29,274 --> 00:05:32,433 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, but I mean it takes a while, 100 00:05:32,474 --> 00:05:34,753 Speaker 2: and not everyone is going to do I don't expect 101 00:05:34,753 --> 00:05:37,473 Speaker 2: everyone to do that. It's just kind of what works 102 00:05:37,474 --> 00:05:37,873 Speaker 2: for me now. 103 00:05:37,873 --> 00:05:39,193 Speaker 3: I think I feel like a fair people. 104 00:05:39,753 --> 00:05:43,513 Speaker 1: I think it's definitely become more common, which is a 105 00:05:43,513 --> 00:05:47,594 Speaker 1: great fantastic because it's also young girls can get bullied 106 00:05:47,633 --> 00:05:50,994 Speaker 1: because of their skin color, no matter what color it is, 107 00:05:51,073 --> 00:05:54,794 Speaker 1: so it's nice for young girls to have everyone to 108 00:05:54,834 --> 00:05:57,154 Speaker 1: look up to all different skin types and colors. 109 00:05:57,474 --> 00:06:03,113 Speaker 2: Sh I think it's weird racially because some people you 110 00:06:03,113 --> 00:06:05,953 Speaker 2: know were relentlessly bullied for their skin tone in a 111 00:06:05,993 --> 00:06:10,553 Speaker 2: different way and you know, it's very privileged to be 112 00:06:10,674 --> 00:06:13,594 Speaker 2: able to just scrub your tan off. 113 00:06:14,034 --> 00:06:15,193 Speaker 3: That's what someone said in that. 114 00:06:15,433 --> 00:06:21,433 Speaker 1: I've seen that, and it's very true. It's a huge privilege, 115 00:06:21,474 --> 00:06:24,673 Speaker 1: and I don't think people actually recognize that. And also 116 00:06:24,714 --> 00:06:26,553 Speaker 1: how much of a slap in the face it can 117 00:06:26,594 --> 00:06:30,553 Speaker 1: be for some people because it's like, Okay, you want 118 00:06:30,594 --> 00:06:32,273 Speaker 1: to be my skin color when it suits you. 119 00:06:32,953 --> 00:06:35,873 Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is how you treated me at school exactly. 120 00:06:35,914 --> 00:06:37,794 Speaker 1: That would be awful to deal with. 121 00:06:38,234 --> 00:06:40,113 Speaker 2: So it's nice to embrace your skin tone and a 122 00:06:40,154 --> 00:06:42,034 Speaker 2: matter of what it is and not be like I'm 123 00:06:42,113 --> 00:06:43,274 Speaker 2: ugly unless I do this. 124 00:06:43,714 --> 00:06:45,073 Speaker 3: I think that's a nice mindset anyway. 125 00:06:45,193 --> 00:06:49,073 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not ugly, It's okay, Yeah, we're fine. Just 126 00:06:49,193 --> 00:06:52,753 Speaker 1: because you work in the industry and your brain is amazing, 127 00:06:52,753 --> 00:06:55,313 Speaker 1: it seems to know a lot. It doesn't mean that 128 00:06:55,354 --> 00:06:58,194 Speaker 1: you don't learn new tips or techniques. So is there 129 00:06:58,193 --> 00:07:01,393 Speaker 1: something that you've learned about doing your skin care, makeup 130 00:07:01,513 --> 00:07:04,513 Speaker 1: or hair recently that has been a game changer. 131 00:07:04,993 --> 00:07:07,553 Speaker 2: I do think growing up it was always, oh, if 132 00:07:07,553 --> 00:07:12,074 Speaker 2: your eye is blue, you must wear copper bronze eyeshadows, 133 00:07:12,234 --> 00:07:15,554 Speaker 2: and like, I don't know that that necessarily suits my 134 00:07:15,794 --> 00:07:16,473 Speaker 2: skin tone. 135 00:07:16,634 --> 00:07:19,554 Speaker 1: You really suit cool tones so well. 136 00:07:19,314 --> 00:07:21,874 Speaker 2: Right, and now I feel like people want to find 137 00:07:21,874 --> 00:07:22,554 Speaker 2: cool tone makeup. 138 00:07:22,594 --> 00:07:24,554 Speaker 3: It's still kind of hard with eye makeup. 139 00:07:24,594 --> 00:07:27,074 Speaker 2: But there's always a warm brown and like. 140 00:07:27,114 --> 00:07:30,874 Speaker 1: Actually that is so true even in the cool palettes. Yeah, 141 00:07:30,953 --> 00:07:33,234 Speaker 1: there's one warm brown. 142 00:07:33,393 --> 00:07:34,514 Speaker 3: What am I going to do with that? 143 00:07:34,914 --> 00:07:36,914 Speaker 2: I've been thinking about like building my own you. 144 00:07:36,834 --> 00:07:38,794 Speaker 1: Know, mac or that's a good idea. 145 00:07:38,834 --> 00:07:43,913 Speaker 2: Also, like bronza, Like does my skin bronze naturally? Not really, 146 00:07:44,234 --> 00:07:46,674 Speaker 2: So I've been going for more of like a contour, 147 00:07:46,914 --> 00:07:49,594 Speaker 2: and then the face still has to mention and then 148 00:07:49,674 --> 00:07:52,473 Speaker 2: your blushes what kind of livens it up? Yeah, you 149 00:07:52,514 --> 00:07:54,754 Speaker 2: don't have to put bronzo that might be a little 150 00:07:54,794 --> 00:07:56,554 Speaker 2: bit orange on you. 151 00:07:57,034 --> 00:08:00,434 Speaker 1: And when you changed your hair color quite drastically, is 152 00:08:00,434 --> 00:08:02,994 Speaker 1: that also when you sort of went hot on? Am 153 00:08:02,994 --> 00:08:03,913 Speaker 1: I more cool toned? 154 00:08:04,354 --> 00:08:06,994 Speaker 3: Yes? And not fake tan? 155 00:08:07,393 --> 00:08:11,274 Speaker 2: Meant that I could figure out what foundations actually matched 156 00:08:11,314 --> 00:08:14,314 Speaker 2: my skin instead of kind of like guessing and mixing 157 00:08:14,393 --> 00:08:18,273 Speaker 2: them all the time and having no clue. So you know, 158 00:08:18,354 --> 00:08:20,714 Speaker 2: you learn your undertones. And it's funny like I'll put 159 00:08:21,794 --> 00:08:24,674 Speaker 2: the same color as a friend. You know, you can 160 00:08:24,714 --> 00:08:26,473 Speaker 2: put the same color lipsic on two different people and 161 00:08:26,514 --> 00:08:30,153 Speaker 2: it looks completely different. So, and my skin looks really 162 00:08:30,194 --> 00:08:33,954 Speaker 2: pink next to other people's. I'm like, okay, well that's 163 00:08:33,953 --> 00:08:34,634 Speaker 2: what we're dealing with. 164 00:08:34,874 --> 00:08:37,274 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's like a fragrance. You and I could 165 00:08:37,274 --> 00:08:39,274 Speaker 1: be sitting here with the same fragrance, but it smells 166 00:08:39,354 --> 00:08:40,594 Speaker 1: vastly different on both of us. 167 00:08:40,714 --> 00:08:43,394 Speaker 2: Yeah, like by the fireplace always smells like stale. Weeat 168 00:08:43,394 --> 00:08:43,914 Speaker 2: pix on me? 169 00:08:44,274 --> 00:08:48,354 Speaker 1: Oh I yeah, I smelt something on someone recently. I 170 00:08:48,354 --> 00:08:50,994 Speaker 1: complimented them and I can't remember what it was, but 171 00:08:51,074 --> 00:08:53,034 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my goodness, it's so nice on you. 172 00:08:53,114 --> 00:08:56,274 Speaker 1: It's awful on me, just like tacky on me, but 173 00:08:56,354 --> 00:08:59,634 Speaker 1: it was beautiful on this person. I can't remember what 174 00:08:59,714 --> 00:09:03,594 Speaker 1: it was. Yeah, so your hair has changed. How do 175 00:09:03,634 --> 00:09:06,514 Speaker 1: you keep it so healthy and shiny looking? 176 00:09:07,314 --> 00:09:09,554 Speaker 2: Been through it? I colored it just back to this 177 00:09:09,634 --> 00:09:12,554 Speaker 2: sort of more my natural color day before yesterday. 178 00:09:12,834 --> 00:09:14,794 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we had to bleach it. 179 00:09:15,074 --> 00:09:18,074 Speaker 1: How many colors have you been over the past copies? 180 00:09:18,474 --> 00:09:19,274 Speaker 1: But you've had fun? 181 00:09:19,514 --> 00:09:19,874 Speaker 3: Yeah? 182 00:09:19,954 --> 00:09:22,954 Speaker 1: I love that, Like have fun with your hair. I'm like, 183 00:09:23,274 --> 00:09:26,554 Speaker 1: whenever people get upset about people cutting it too short 184 00:09:26,674 --> 00:09:30,394 Speaker 1: or different, it'll grow back, or you can change the color. 185 00:09:30,634 --> 00:09:32,434 Speaker 1: It's all right, it's just hair. Yeah. 186 00:09:32,514 --> 00:09:34,953 Speaker 2: I was really afraid when I posted it that people 187 00:09:34,954 --> 00:09:35,474 Speaker 2: will be like. 188 00:09:35,634 --> 00:09:38,954 Speaker 3: I prefer the red because I'm still on the fact 189 00:09:39,154 --> 00:09:40,434 Speaker 3: it's just a big shock. 190 00:09:40,634 --> 00:09:42,634 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not that different though, It's like really not 191 00:09:42,674 --> 00:09:43,274 Speaker 2: that big a deal. 192 00:09:43,394 --> 00:09:44,234 Speaker 3: But you know, I love it. 193 00:09:44,234 --> 00:09:47,514 Speaker 1: I think it's beautiful. It's so that's your natural color. 194 00:09:47,834 --> 00:09:50,474 Speaker 2: Ish. Yeah, it was a bit lighter than the red, 195 00:09:50,594 --> 00:09:53,154 Speaker 2: so we had to bleach it a bit. So it's 196 00:09:53,194 --> 00:09:56,514 Speaker 2: like it's not doing its best, but I I wash 197 00:09:56,554 --> 00:09:59,074 Speaker 2: it a lot actually, Like I think a lot of 198 00:09:59,114 --> 00:10:01,754 Speaker 2: people think that that's damaging for their hair, but it's 199 00:10:01,834 --> 00:10:04,034 Speaker 2: really good because it keeps your scalp healthy. 200 00:10:03,714 --> 00:10:05,634 Speaker 1: And then it can grow. And also then you can 201 00:10:05,674 --> 00:10:09,554 Speaker 1: put the deliciousness in the ends that have been fried 202 00:10:09,594 --> 00:10:11,234 Speaker 1: if you've used to bleaching. 203 00:10:10,874 --> 00:10:14,514 Speaker 2: That like your ends. The longer I haven't washed my hair, 204 00:10:14,634 --> 00:10:16,074 Speaker 2: my ends need conditioning. 205 00:10:16,234 --> 00:10:19,034 Speaker 1: Oh my ends are foul. Like right now, my hair 206 00:10:19,114 --> 00:10:22,034 Speaker 1: is in desperate need of a wash. It is slipped back. 207 00:10:22,074 --> 00:10:24,434 Speaker 1: If you're not watching on YouTube. I got rained on. Yes, 208 00:10:24,554 --> 00:10:27,394 Speaker 1: I had so much product in it. It was all curly, 209 00:10:27,794 --> 00:10:29,394 Speaker 1: and then I got rained on and I couldn't be 210 00:10:29,394 --> 00:10:32,154 Speaker 1: bothered washing it last night or this morning, and so 211 00:10:32,194 --> 00:10:36,754 Speaker 1: I just slicked it back. It feels so dry because 212 00:10:36,754 --> 00:10:38,874 Speaker 1: it needs to be washed. I know some people I 213 00:10:38,874 --> 00:10:41,114 Speaker 1: feel like, maybe that's if it's not color traded, that 214 00:10:41,194 --> 00:10:43,914 Speaker 1: they don't need to I don't know my hair. 215 00:10:43,914 --> 00:10:46,634 Speaker 2: If they have fine hair, yeah, so it goes nicer 216 00:10:46,794 --> 00:10:48,074 Speaker 2: after it's not fluffy. 217 00:10:48,514 --> 00:10:51,833 Speaker 1: Yes, but I have a lot of hair does not 218 00:10:51,914 --> 00:10:54,674 Speaker 1: look like it, but I do, and it is not nice. 219 00:10:55,034 --> 00:10:57,114 Speaker 1: It feels much better when I wash it. 220 00:10:57,714 --> 00:11:00,394 Speaker 2: I love clean hair. It's just like such a process 221 00:11:00,754 --> 00:11:03,274 Speaker 2: of drying it. I try to use the hair dryer 222 00:11:03,314 --> 00:11:06,554 Speaker 2: on like the lower heats, and I always air wrap 223 00:11:06,594 --> 00:11:08,474 Speaker 2: it like and I actually have to use I've got 224 00:11:08,514 --> 00:11:10,314 Speaker 2: the new air rap, and I find that the hottest 225 00:11:10,314 --> 00:11:13,874 Speaker 2: heat is actually a bit frying, so music it on 226 00:11:13,914 --> 00:11:15,794 Speaker 2: the medium heat and it's been okay, there's a bit 227 00:11:15,834 --> 00:11:18,674 Speaker 2: of frizz, but like whatever, how. 228 00:11:18,514 --> 00:11:21,713 Speaker 1: Long does it take on the low setting though to dry. 229 00:11:21,954 --> 00:11:25,154 Speaker 2: The medium one? Or I've got that Dyson that like 230 00:11:25,314 --> 00:11:27,594 Speaker 2: cools down if it thinks it's near your scalp or 231 00:11:27,794 --> 00:11:29,634 Speaker 2: neural So it's annoying if I'm me. 232 00:11:29,634 --> 00:11:32,514 Speaker 1: To hurry, You're like no, God, damn it. 233 00:11:32,394 --> 00:11:34,954 Speaker 2: Literally, I'm like, I've got to go, like, can you 234 00:11:35,074 --> 00:11:37,154 Speaker 2: just relax? I don't know how to turn it off, 235 00:11:37,474 --> 00:11:40,034 Speaker 2: But I always allow an hour if I've got to 236 00:11:40,114 --> 00:11:42,074 Speaker 2: wash my hair, an hour from getting out of the 237 00:11:42,074 --> 00:11:45,114 Speaker 2: shower to having it styled. But you know, if you're 238 00:11:45,154 --> 00:11:47,354 Speaker 2: working from home, you can wash it in the morning 239 00:11:47,354 --> 00:11:48,074 Speaker 2: and stile it later. 240 00:11:48,354 --> 00:11:50,874 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would if I need it to look nice. 241 00:11:51,034 --> 00:11:54,953 Speaker 1: I generally, unless I'm in the biggest rush, would wash 242 00:11:54,994 --> 00:11:56,714 Speaker 1: it and then wait a couple of hours. It's sort 243 00:11:56,714 --> 00:11:59,434 Speaker 1: of mostly air dried, and then style it. It's easier 244 00:11:59,514 --> 00:12:02,074 Speaker 1: on it anyway exactly. And also just like less I 245 00:12:02,114 --> 00:12:05,634 Speaker 1: get really annoyed at having to do my hair. I 246 00:12:05,714 --> 00:12:09,394 Speaker 1: love that on Sundays every week you do your questions 247 00:12:09,634 --> 00:12:13,794 Speaker 1: and you are one of the most helpful content creators, 248 00:12:13,834 --> 00:12:18,394 Speaker 1: like with the advice and that you allow people access 249 00:12:18,434 --> 00:12:21,394 Speaker 1: to your brain. I think it's really amazing. What are 250 00:12:21,434 --> 00:12:23,914 Speaker 1: the most common ones that you get? And are there 251 00:12:23,914 --> 00:12:24,994 Speaker 1: any that surprise you? 252 00:12:25,034 --> 00:12:28,834 Speaker 2: Still there's a really common one that's usually like how 253 00:12:28,874 --> 00:12:32,314 Speaker 2: do I fit in vitamin c retinot as, like acid 254 00:12:32,354 --> 00:12:34,594 Speaker 2: hyalonic as, like no, I assume how do I feel 255 00:12:34,594 --> 00:12:36,994 Speaker 2: all those in my routine day nights. So it's kind 256 00:12:36,994 --> 00:12:40,953 Speaker 2: of a request for me to plan the skincare routine for. 257 00:12:41,274 --> 00:12:44,554 Speaker 1: Them individual people, which that's a lot of legwork because 258 00:12:44,594 --> 00:12:46,034 Speaker 1: it's so individual. 259 00:12:45,954 --> 00:12:49,674 Speaker 2: That and I don't know the concerns or anything. But 260 00:12:49,914 --> 00:12:51,354 Speaker 2: also that's too many. 261 00:12:52,154 --> 00:12:54,274 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's too many. 262 00:12:54,394 --> 00:12:57,754 Speaker 3: So you know, my knee jerk responses always don't. 263 00:12:58,154 --> 00:13:00,754 Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you don't need that many things? You're 264 00:13:00,794 --> 00:13:02,914 Speaker 1: going to give yourself a reaction. 265 00:13:02,674 --> 00:13:05,514 Speaker 2: Literally been there because there'll be like EXFOLIANC in the 266 00:13:05,554 --> 00:13:10,194 Speaker 2: mix as well, so that one. Sometimes I am happy 267 00:13:10,234 --> 00:13:12,354 Speaker 2: to be like, I feel like this might be a 268 00:13:12,394 --> 00:13:16,074 Speaker 2: few too many actives, And sometimes I'm like, I can 269 00:13:16,114 --> 00:13:19,154 Speaker 2: be a bit blunt by default, so sometimes I don't 270 00:13:19,194 --> 00:13:22,034 Speaker 2: have the capacity to be like, really love that we're 271 00:13:22,194 --> 00:13:25,394 Speaker 2: enthusiastic about the skin care, but maybe this is too 272 00:13:25,394 --> 00:13:27,074 Speaker 2: many and we need to dial it back and decide 273 00:13:27,114 --> 00:13:29,954 Speaker 2: what our actual goals are, because you know, the knee 274 00:13:29,994 --> 00:13:33,473 Speaker 2: jerk reaction is just don't micro drop. 275 00:13:33,514 --> 00:13:37,274 Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's and the thing is is that people 276 00:13:37,634 --> 00:13:41,354 Speaker 1: see these content creators or like and they're using so 277 00:13:41,434 --> 00:13:48,994 Speaker 1: many different products. Every single professional like dermatologist or someone 278 00:13:49,074 --> 00:13:52,754 Speaker 1: with exceptionally good skin that I talk to, the one 279 00:13:52,754 --> 00:13:55,634 Speaker 1: thing that they have in common is that they don't 280 00:13:55,714 --> 00:13:58,874 Speaker 1: use that many products. They use like three four steps 281 00:13:59,314 --> 00:14:03,634 Speaker 1: like max relaxing. It's just of course then there might 282 00:14:03,674 --> 00:14:06,834 Speaker 1: be trialing different things, but that is it's you don't 283 00:14:06,874 --> 00:14:08,354 Speaker 1: need eat ten steps. 284 00:14:08,674 --> 00:14:10,834 Speaker 2: And it's so easy for them to creep in because 285 00:14:10,874 --> 00:14:13,994 Speaker 2: it's like, okay, three or four, what is that sunscreen, moisturizer, 286 00:14:14,234 --> 00:14:17,714 Speaker 2: wash your face? One serum? What about your I cream? 287 00:14:18,434 --> 00:14:22,314 Speaker 2: What about lotion or tona or something like that for 288 00:14:22,354 --> 00:14:25,074 Speaker 2: a bit of extra moisture. This serum does this, but 289 00:14:25,114 --> 00:14:26,674 Speaker 2: I also want to do this, And then. 290 00:14:26,554 --> 00:14:30,194 Speaker 1: It's like and because then if you don't sort of 291 00:14:30,234 --> 00:14:34,914 Speaker 1: have the experience and education to know what can work together, 292 00:14:35,074 --> 00:14:38,674 Speaker 1: then that's when you might or something isn't even labeled properly, 293 00:14:38,714 --> 00:14:40,874 Speaker 1: so you might be using an essence but it's actually 294 00:14:41,034 --> 00:14:44,474 Speaker 1: got mild acid or something in it, so it's actually exfoliating, 295 00:14:44,554 --> 00:14:47,834 Speaker 1: it's not just nourishing your skin. And so then you 296 00:14:47,874 --> 00:14:50,314 Speaker 1: didn't even realize you're exfoliating your skin every morning. 297 00:14:50,554 --> 00:14:52,114 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're like, why is it very angry? 298 00:14:52,234 --> 00:14:55,234 Speaker 1: Or yes, exactly, well because your skin berry is very cranky, 299 00:14:56,034 --> 00:14:58,194 Speaker 1: So I get it is hard, but you also can't 300 00:14:58,194 --> 00:15:00,434 Speaker 1: come up with personalized routines for everyone. 301 00:15:01,114 --> 00:15:05,714 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's about figuring out your goal, prioritizing them, 302 00:15:05,994 --> 00:15:09,474 Speaker 2: and ideally products that do a couple of things. You know, 303 00:15:09,874 --> 00:15:13,154 Speaker 2: like if you want to get rid of dark spots, 304 00:15:13,194 --> 00:15:15,034 Speaker 2: but you also have like a bit of texture like 305 00:15:15,114 --> 00:15:18,114 Speaker 2: bumps and stuff, then maybe you want something that does 306 00:15:18,514 --> 00:15:23,034 Speaker 2: mildly exfoliate but is mostly a pigment serum. It's just 307 00:15:23,074 --> 00:15:25,834 Speaker 2: hard to find those unicorn products sometimes. 308 00:15:25,274 --> 00:15:29,634 Speaker 1: Exactly or because they might be marketed as a bit 309 00:15:29,634 --> 00:15:32,874 Speaker 1: of an everything serum, but the actual actives are so 310 00:15:32,994 --> 00:15:40,554 Speaker 1: low dose that it's not ever going to do anything hard. 311 00:15:41,554 --> 00:15:45,274 Speaker 1: Are there any particular fights you're having with people online, 312 00:15:45,914 --> 00:15:48,754 Speaker 1: like certain topics or myths that you consistently feel like 313 00:15:48,754 --> 00:15:49,634 Speaker 1: you've got to go to bat for? 314 00:15:50,074 --> 00:15:53,474 Speaker 2: Well people Actually, when you do speak about your colors 315 00:15:53,514 --> 00:15:56,194 Speaker 2: and your undertones and you know those seasoned color typing, 316 00:15:56,234 --> 00:15:58,194 Speaker 2: people get very involved and they want to tell you 317 00:15:58,234 --> 00:16:01,234 Speaker 2: and sometimes they'll be like, you know, this pink on 318 00:16:01,274 --> 00:16:04,434 Speaker 2: you makes you look sickly, but the orange brightens your face, 319 00:16:04,594 --> 00:16:08,114 Speaker 2: or neither of these look good, and it's like thank you, okay, 320 00:16:08,274 --> 00:16:12,034 Speaker 2: thanks so much. So there's that, like I get a 321 00:16:12,074 --> 00:16:16,514 Speaker 2: bit scared when the color consultants come sometimes because they 322 00:16:16,554 --> 00:16:19,514 Speaker 2: can be But I had one recently that left the 323 00:16:19,554 --> 00:16:22,674 Speaker 2: most like polite, helpful comment, and I was like, I 324 00:16:22,714 --> 00:16:24,794 Speaker 2: wish that they were all like. 325 00:16:24,994 --> 00:16:27,354 Speaker 1: Yes, I get some of those, and you think, why 326 00:16:27,434 --> 00:16:31,394 Speaker 1: can't everyone approach things because it actually can be so helpful. Yeah, 327 00:16:31,434 --> 00:16:35,594 Speaker 1: but it's about your approach, and I guess the intent 328 00:16:35,754 --> 00:16:36,354 Speaker 1: behind it. 329 00:16:37,114 --> 00:16:37,474 Speaker 3: Yeah. 330 00:16:37,554 --> 00:16:40,754 Speaker 2: I think there's the knee Derek reaction to oh, this 331 00:16:40,794 --> 00:16:44,154 Speaker 2: person says that they're this, but their color might actually 332 00:16:44,154 --> 00:16:47,994 Speaker 2: be this. And then there's the well, if I think 333 00:16:47,994 --> 00:16:49,994 Speaker 2: about it, what do I want to bring here? If 334 00:16:50,034 --> 00:16:52,514 Speaker 2: I'm commenting from my business account, perhaps I want to 335 00:16:52,554 --> 00:16:54,754 Speaker 2: bring people to my business, and so I should be 336 00:16:55,274 --> 00:16:57,194 Speaker 2: polite and understanding and helpful. 337 00:16:57,594 --> 00:17:00,554 Speaker 1: Yeah. So then people are like, oh, okay, let's go 338 00:17:00,594 --> 00:17:01,874 Speaker 1: follow this helpful queen. 339 00:17:02,074 --> 00:17:04,674 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean I hear that sometimes when they 340 00:17:04,714 --> 00:17:07,273 Speaker 2: do the draping and stuff, they can be a bit like, 341 00:17:07,273 --> 00:17:09,234 Speaker 2: oh see how this brings out all the redness in 342 00:17:09,273 --> 00:17:09,674 Speaker 2: your face? 343 00:17:09,714 --> 00:17:10,834 Speaker 3: Well now I do. 344 00:17:10,954 --> 00:17:11,994 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you so much. 345 00:17:12,114 --> 00:17:12,194 Speaker 2: That. 346 00:17:12,274 --> 00:17:14,234 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never actually got my colors done because I 347 00:17:14,234 --> 00:17:16,513 Speaker 1: don't want to know. I just like to wear what 348 00:17:16,634 --> 00:17:16,994 Speaker 1: I like. 349 00:17:17,514 --> 00:17:20,114 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you get a feel for what looks exactly. 350 00:17:20,154 --> 00:17:22,794 Speaker 1: Anyway, if you've got an eye for any like any 351 00:17:22,834 --> 00:17:25,594 Speaker 1: sort of aesthetics eye, you generally know what looks good. 352 00:17:25,754 --> 00:17:28,194 Speaker 1: And also if you think that you look good in 353 00:17:28,274 --> 00:17:32,714 Speaker 1: something but you don't, that actually doesn't affect anyone else. Yeah, 354 00:17:32,834 --> 00:17:34,754 Speaker 1: like it doesn't matter if you think you look good, 355 00:17:34,834 --> 00:17:35,674 Speaker 1: that's all that matters. 356 00:17:36,034 --> 00:17:36,474 Speaker 3: Totally. 357 00:17:36,914 --> 00:17:39,074 Speaker 2: I don't really get those chemicals are bad people. 358 00:17:39,154 --> 00:17:42,354 Speaker 3: I just don't think find me Yeah really what they're. 359 00:17:41,914 --> 00:17:44,194 Speaker 1: Well, they'll probably just look at your profile then go 360 00:17:44,914 --> 00:17:45,514 Speaker 1: not gonna bother. 361 00:17:46,754 --> 00:17:50,714 Speaker 2: But occasionally, like in person, those chats come up like, oh, 362 00:17:50,914 --> 00:17:52,434 Speaker 2: it doesn't soundscreen have chemicals. 363 00:17:52,514 --> 00:17:54,914 Speaker 1: Oh yes, everything is a chemical. 364 00:17:55,194 --> 00:17:59,513 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I mean sure, but those conversations just they 365 00:17:59,594 --> 00:18:03,314 Speaker 2: don't take dose into account like ever. And I don't 366 00:18:03,314 --> 00:18:06,553 Speaker 2: expect everyone to have a you know, tertiary education in 367 00:18:06,754 --> 00:18:09,794 Speaker 2: these things. So you know, you just try and be 368 00:18:09,874 --> 00:18:13,514 Speaker 2: patient figure out where these ideas have come from. That's 369 00:18:13,554 --> 00:18:14,073 Speaker 2: all you can do. 370 00:18:14,594 --> 00:18:16,874 Speaker 1: Okay. So these are a few questions from the team 371 00:18:17,114 --> 00:18:20,234 Speaker 1: and the New Beauty community. What are a few unsexy 372 00:18:20,274 --> 00:18:22,914 Speaker 1: products that do a lot of heavy lifting in your routine? 373 00:18:24,034 --> 00:18:24,354 Speaker 3: Okay? 374 00:18:24,354 --> 00:18:27,114 Speaker 2: So I really like those high smile toothpastes that aren't mint. 375 00:18:27,194 --> 00:18:29,674 Speaker 2: They're like fun flamy. Yeah, I think they're for kids. 376 00:18:29,674 --> 00:18:32,474 Speaker 2: They do have fluoride, But I just find sometimes the 377 00:18:32,514 --> 00:18:34,074 Speaker 2: mint can make the skin around my mouth a bit 378 00:18:34,154 --> 00:18:37,394 Speaker 2: tingly and so feel weird about it now, you know 379 00:18:37,394 --> 00:18:39,714 Speaker 2: what I mean? Like mint is said that tingly feeling, 380 00:18:40,114 --> 00:18:43,793 Speaker 2: and when you've had like relentless perioral dermatitis, it's like, 381 00:18:43,954 --> 00:18:46,234 Speaker 2: I'm not really comfortable with that feeling. Yeah, fair so 382 00:18:46,714 --> 00:18:50,273 Speaker 2: that I have their like pink donut the moment I 383 00:18:50,314 --> 00:18:50,954 Speaker 2: am twelve. 384 00:18:51,394 --> 00:18:54,313 Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually that's just I'm gonna go get some 385 00:18:54,354 --> 00:18:56,394 Speaker 1: of those because my kid's still using the baby one 386 00:18:56,434 --> 00:18:58,313 Speaker 1: because he doesn't like the mintiness. I need to just 387 00:18:58,354 --> 00:19:01,273 Speaker 1: get the ones that taste like lollies or donuts. 388 00:19:01,354 --> 00:19:01,594 Speaker 2: Yeah. 389 00:19:01,674 --> 00:19:04,474 Speaker 3: The great one tastes like great, you know, like hub bubble. 390 00:19:05,274 --> 00:19:06,674 Speaker 1: Oh, that's my favorite. 391 00:19:06,994 --> 00:19:10,074 Speaker 3: I like the poorly one. I think it's cotton candy. 392 00:19:10,234 --> 00:19:11,353 Speaker 1: Oh. 393 00:19:11,394 --> 00:19:13,634 Speaker 2: But I mean, I guess you do your mouth wash 394 00:19:13,634 --> 00:19:16,514 Speaker 2: and that's how you get your like fresh feelings as well. Yeah, 395 00:19:16,514 --> 00:19:20,634 Speaker 2: so it's like a process. I like the what is 396 00:19:20,674 --> 00:19:23,434 Speaker 2: it called, like no More Sweat. I think those really 397 00:19:23,474 --> 00:19:28,274 Speaker 2: hectic antiperspirants because I had to take medication that can 398 00:19:28,354 --> 00:19:30,074 Speaker 2: sometimes make you sweat in the like. 399 00:19:30,114 --> 00:19:31,553 Speaker 3: Anxiety sweat way. 400 00:19:31,794 --> 00:19:33,553 Speaker 2: You know, there's two types of sweat and one like 401 00:19:33,634 --> 00:19:36,554 Speaker 2: doesn't smell like BeO when one does. Yeah, and then 402 00:19:36,874 --> 00:19:42,314 Speaker 2: foot cream right like people always beautiful women and they'll 403 00:19:42,354 --> 00:19:44,513 Speaker 2: be like, oh no, my feet are ugly, and it's like, 404 00:19:44,594 --> 00:19:45,914 Speaker 2: well do you look after them? 405 00:19:45,954 --> 00:19:47,274 Speaker 3: Like why why do you say that? 406 00:19:47,434 --> 00:19:49,914 Speaker 2: You know it's you use foot cream and put a 407 00:19:49,914 --> 00:19:51,553 Speaker 2: file in the shower and off you go. Now you 408 00:19:51,594 --> 00:19:53,554 Speaker 2: have like feet you can sell pictures of if your 409 00:19:53,594 --> 00:19:54,314 Speaker 2: career faults through. 410 00:19:54,954 --> 00:19:57,194 Speaker 1: It's always good to have a backup. Do you have 411 00:19:57,234 --> 00:20:00,274 Speaker 1: a favorite products you use on your feet? I'm talking 412 00:20:00,314 --> 00:20:01,674 Speaker 1: about un sexy topics. 413 00:20:02,074 --> 00:20:05,554 Speaker 2: Well, you know, some people really like them, true, and 414 00:20:06,034 --> 00:20:06,954 Speaker 2: I love that for them. 415 00:20:07,114 --> 00:20:07,434 Speaker 3: Okay. 416 00:20:07,754 --> 00:20:10,514 Speaker 2: I like the soap and glory one from Mecca because 417 00:20:10,554 --> 00:20:12,514 Speaker 2: it smells like nice and fruity, but some people find 418 00:20:12,554 --> 00:20:15,914 Speaker 2: the smell overwhelming. So there's one at Kems Warehouse. It's 419 00:20:16,034 --> 00:20:20,474 Speaker 2: called Cali Scale and it's a lactic acid and urea 420 00:20:20,674 --> 00:20:24,154 Speaker 2: like good percentages that are evidence based. I can't remember 421 00:20:24,194 --> 00:20:26,394 Speaker 2: off the top of my head, but you can use 422 00:20:26,434 --> 00:20:30,234 Speaker 2: it on like KP on the arms, feet, legs, you know, 423 00:20:30,394 --> 00:20:35,714 Speaker 2: for smoothing as well, so really versatile lotion, but great 424 00:20:35,794 --> 00:20:37,994 Speaker 2: on feet, keeping the heels soft. 425 00:20:38,314 --> 00:20:41,714 Speaker 1: Travel skincare. Should you actually be doing a full skincare 426 00:20:41,794 --> 00:20:44,674 Speaker 1: routine when traveling overseas in a long flight or is 427 00:20:44,714 --> 00:20:45,674 Speaker 1: it just for the content? 428 00:20:46,194 --> 00:20:48,553 Speaker 2: Ideally I would like to do my skincare before I 429 00:20:48,714 --> 00:20:50,114 Speaker 2: go to the airport and then I don't have to 430 00:20:50,114 --> 00:20:53,234 Speaker 2: really touch my face on the plane. But when we 431 00:20:53,354 --> 00:20:58,833 Speaker 2: go to you know, Europe or America, it's like eighteen hours, 432 00:20:58,834 --> 00:21:02,034 Speaker 2: like you gotta wash your face. So I do think 433 00:21:02,154 --> 00:21:05,674 Speaker 2: obviously you can't take that much on either, so you 434 00:21:05,674 --> 00:21:08,313 Speaker 2: can do a dialed back but just a clean and 435 00:21:08,354 --> 00:21:11,474 Speaker 2: a moisturize because the air in the plane is so 436 00:21:11,834 --> 00:21:14,994 Speaker 2: dry and like I hope it makes sense, but my 437 00:21:15,194 --> 00:21:19,793 Speaker 2: skin when it dries out, I get pimples because you know, 438 00:21:19,834 --> 00:21:23,474 Speaker 2: you're dehydrated, and then the oil changes composition and clocks pores. 439 00:21:23,834 --> 00:21:26,394 Speaker 2: So I have had the worst pimples of my life 440 00:21:26,394 --> 00:21:29,394 Speaker 2: from like not adequately hydrating on a plane. I like 441 00:21:29,434 --> 00:21:31,194 Speaker 2: to take a mist. I like to actually take a 442 00:21:31,194 --> 00:21:34,273 Speaker 2: proper cleanser, not a my sailor these days, and you 443 00:21:34,314 --> 00:21:37,074 Speaker 2: can get these things from Miniso. It's called a compact 444 00:21:37,234 --> 00:21:39,594 Speaker 2: towel and it's like it's in a little pack and 445 00:21:39,594 --> 00:21:41,434 Speaker 2: then if you add water, it puffs up into like 446 00:21:41,434 --> 00:21:42,154 Speaker 2: a wash cloth. 447 00:21:42,474 --> 00:21:44,514 Speaker 1: Oh yes, I've seen those. 448 00:21:44,714 --> 00:21:46,914 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love them for travel because before that I 449 00:21:46,994 --> 00:21:48,874 Speaker 2: was taking my washcloths and then just kind of carrying 450 00:21:48,914 --> 00:21:49,514 Speaker 2: them around. 451 00:21:49,314 --> 00:21:50,514 Speaker 1: All like wet, yuck. 452 00:21:50,594 --> 00:21:52,554 Speaker 2: Yeah, and like I don't like to reuse one once 453 00:21:52,594 --> 00:21:53,314 Speaker 2: I've used it. 454 00:21:53,274 --> 00:21:56,314 Speaker 1: So I just don't like carrying moist things around either. 455 00:21:56,354 --> 00:21:57,073 Speaker 1: It's just yucky. 456 00:21:57,314 --> 00:21:58,833 Speaker 2: I had to throw away a hat because it got 457 00:21:58,834 --> 00:22:00,154 Speaker 2: wet and then I had to travel with it. 458 00:22:00,274 --> 00:22:01,634 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, yeah, I agree. 459 00:22:01,794 --> 00:22:06,353 Speaker 2: So yeah that and then like a nice not as 460 00:22:06,434 --> 00:22:10,674 Speaker 2: thick as you can do, like moisturizer or yeah, something 461 00:22:10,714 --> 00:22:14,994 Speaker 2: to that effect. So missed cleanse, great moisturizer. And then 462 00:22:15,034 --> 00:22:16,714 Speaker 2: if you're going to be landing and you're going to 463 00:22:16,794 --> 00:22:19,274 Speaker 2: be in the sun, you probably want a sunscreen. Yeah, 464 00:22:19,354 --> 00:22:22,154 Speaker 2: you can get little travel sized ones, though I've got 465 00:22:22,194 --> 00:22:24,674 Speaker 2: one in my bag right now for a real plane it. 466 00:22:24,754 --> 00:22:26,674 Speaker 1: Do you still wear a mask on the plane. No, 467 00:22:27,114 --> 00:22:30,434 Speaker 1: I'm a little freak. I wear too still, and I 468 00:22:30,474 --> 00:22:36,273 Speaker 1: get like just so extra dry under there and especially 469 00:22:36,274 --> 00:22:38,914 Speaker 1: where it rubs. But if I put like a really 470 00:22:38,994 --> 00:22:41,553 Speaker 1: nice thick barrier cream one, then it's generally okay. 471 00:22:41,754 --> 00:22:44,114 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. No I should, but I like 472 00:22:44,274 --> 00:22:46,554 Speaker 2: that tip because maybe I would. 473 00:22:51,874 --> 00:22:55,114 Speaker 1: Who do you like following for trustworthy beauty content? 474 00:22:55,194 --> 00:22:57,073 Speaker 2: And why I love for makeup. 475 00:22:57,274 --> 00:22:58,714 Speaker 3: It's like Elizabeth c. 476 00:22:59,634 --> 00:23:02,834 Speaker 2: She does TikTok and Instagram and she just she used 477 00:23:02,834 --> 00:23:04,714 Speaker 2: to work at Mecca. We will have to get her 478 00:23:04,754 --> 00:23:08,234 Speaker 2: on then you should because she reminds mean that, like 479 00:23:08,314 --> 00:23:10,793 Speaker 2: she's a matter of fact, but she's not like yelling 480 00:23:10,834 --> 00:23:11,074 Speaker 2: at you. 481 00:23:11,274 --> 00:23:13,594 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just like this. 482 00:23:13,674 --> 00:23:17,274 Speaker 1: Is the best missgir you'll ever use. Oh please please 483 00:23:17,314 --> 00:23:19,833 Speaker 1: please don't yell as soon as I get ready with 484 00:23:19,874 --> 00:23:20,354 Speaker 1: me for this. 485 00:23:21,634 --> 00:23:21,874 Speaker 2: Yeah. 486 00:23:21,914 --> 00:23:23,674 Speaker 3: It's relaxing, it's comforting. 487 00:23:23,794 --> 00:23:25,553 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I like comfort content. 488 00:23:25,954 --> 00:23:29,394 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that for ma cup. I love Michelle like 489 00:23:29,474 --> 00:23:32,234 Speaker 2: lab Muffin for skincare. 490 00:23:31,794 --> 00:23:34,914 Speaker 1: Because good to have people that you can trust with advice. 491 00:23:35,594 --> 00:23:36,834 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean sure. 492 00:23:37,234 --> 00:23:40,434 Speaker 2: You know what is really scary though, the peptides people 493 00:23:40,434 --> 00:23:41,554 Speaker 2: are injecting you? 494 00:23:41,914 --> 00:23:48,594 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Why yeah, why are people injecting anything? Well, sorry, 495 00:23:48,634 --> 00:23:51,834 Speaker 1: unless a doctor has told you to. 496 00:23:52,394 --> 00:23:56,754 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're like experimental. I think some people are 497 00:23:56,794 --> 00:23:59,194 Speaker 2: just ordering them on the internet and some people are 498 00:23:59,194 --> 00:24:01,594 Speaker 2: getting them from a compounding chemist, which is like legal 499 00:24:01,634 --> 00:24:02,194 Speaker 2: gray area. 500 00:24:02,394 --> 00:24:05,274 Speaker 1: Yeah. Was that a wedding recently and one of the 501 00:24:05,674 --> 00:24:10,034 Speaker 1: women there has a teenager and they're all injecting these 502 00:24:10,074 --> 00:24:14,674 Speaker 1: peptides and melicon whatever. Yeah. 503 00:24:14,754 --> 00:24:17,154 Speaker 2: What there's a reason that didn't make it to market 504 00:24:17,194 --> 00:24:19,114 Speaker 2: as a drug, and it's because it's not safe. 505 00:24:19,314 --> 00:24:22,194 Speaker 1: Just because there's one influencer pedaling it and saying that 506 00:24:22,234 --> 00:24:25,274 Speaker 1: it's safe, why don't you ask a doctor that's studied. 507 00:24:25,434 --> 00:24:27,834 Speaker 3: Yeah, like, is that a long term study? Does it 508 00:24:27,994 --> 00:24:29,674 Speaker 3: have good? Six months? 509 00:24:29,794 --> 00:24:31,513 Speaker 1: They didn't die, so it's safe. 510 00:24:31,714 --> 00:24:32,354 Speaker 3: The more I. 511 00:24:32,394 --> 00:24:35,914 Speaker 2: Learned about like medicine when I was at union working 512 00:24:35,954 --> 00:24:39,634 Speaker 2: in industry, like the less inclined I was to experiment, 513 00:24:39,794 --> 00:24:42,833 Speaker 2: But a lot of talk about the peptides. 514 00:24:42,594 --> 00:24:47,034 Speaker 1: Just remind anyone listening what the supposed benefits are. 515 00:24:47,474 --> 00:24:49,954 Speaker 2: I don't even I guess it depends on the peptide. Yeah, 516 00:24:50,314 --> 00:24:53,714 Speaker 2: I mean copper peptide exists in your bloodstream anyway, and 517 00:24:53,754 --> 00:24:57,754 Speaker 2: it's there to take the copper to different parts because 518 00:24:57,994 --> 00:24:59,994 Speaker 2: you need copper as it's like a co factor for 519 00:25:00,034 --> 00:25:02,994 Speaker 2: a bunch of enzymes, for a bunch of biological processes. 520 00:25:03,034 --> 00:25:05,513 Speaker 2: So you can get copper peptide in skincare that you 521 00:25:05,594 --> 00:25:09,274 Speaker 2: put on and like, we know how that behaves. Because 522 00:25:09,354 --> 00:25:13,914 Speaker 2: the thing about like fueling helping cell processes along is 523 00:25:13,994 --> 00:25:16,434 Speaker 2: that I don't want to like try and scare anyone, 524 00:25:16,554 --> 00:25:20,994 Speaker 2: except that it's not that well studied as an injection, so. 525 00:25:21,154 --> 00:25:24,074 Speaker 1: I think we need to scare people though, well. 526 00:25:23,954 --> 00:25:28,154 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like when there's uncontrolled cell growth, that's cancer, right, 527 00:25:28,634 --> 00:25:31,914 Speaker 2: So you don't want to exactly be encouraging things to 528 00:25:32,154 --> 00:25:36,394 Speaker 2: grow and regenerate too much. It's all about balance. 529 00:25:36,514 --> 00:25:40,514 Speaker 1: All right. Finally, are there any cool innovations or changes 530 00:25:40,594 --> 00:25:42,954 Speaker 1: in the ways that products are being formulated that you're 531 00:25:43,034 --> 00:25:46,714 Speaker 1: noticing as someone with a pharmaceutical science background. What is 532 00:25:46,754 --> 00:25:48,513 Speaker 1: getting you excited at the moment? 533 00:25:49,434 --> 00:25:53,754 Speaker 2: I think quite the opposite, annoyingly, like there's like this 534 00:25:53,994 --> 00:25:57,874 Speaker 2: PDRN in everything, or what's the other one exosome and 535 00:25:58,194 --> 00:26:01,033 Speaker 2: like I feel like at this point, yeah, sure, some 536 00:26:01,114 --> 00:26:03,074 Speaker 2: of it is interesting, but some of it is just 537 00:26:03,114 --> 00:26:08,313 Speaker 2: buzzwords and marketing. Yeah, and of the day, Like if 538 00:26:08,354 --> 00:26:12,154 Speaker 2: you want to keep your skin very intact so you cleanse, gently, moisturize, 539 00:26:12,314 --> 00:26:14,434 Speaker 2: you want to make sure you're not getting the sun 540 00:26:14,514 --> 00:26:17,793 Speaker 2: damage because it's like it's kind of like waterproofing your bathroom, right, 541 00:26:17,834 --> 00:26:20,434 Speaker 2: if you don't, then mold will come. And in the 542 00:26:20,434 --> 00:26:21,994 Speaker 2: same way, you have to protect your skin from the 543 00:26:21,994 --> 00:26:24,514 Speaker 2: sun because if you don't, you will get damaged. 544 00:26:25,194 --> 00:26:27,434 Speaker 3: Like you just protect it. 545 00:26:27,514 --> 00:26:30,754 Speaker 2: Now, that's that, and then we have our like vitamin 546 00:26:30,794 --> 00:26:34,354 Speaker 2: A if you can tolerate those, fantastic. I think there's 547 00:26:34,394 --> 00:26:37,674 Speaker 2: a lot of space for just like enjoying yourself though 548 00:26:37,714 --> 00:26:39,794 Speaker 2: with skincare and trying things. 549 00:26:40,234 --> 00:26:43,954 Speaker 1: All right, Well, Hannah English, thank you again for joining 550 00:26:44,034 --> 00:26:47,234 Speaker 1: us on the show. We could talk about many other topics, 551 00:26:47,314 --> 00:26:50,394 Speaker 1: but we better call it a day and we will 552 00:26:50,394 --> 00:26:52,754 Speaker 1: hopefully have you back at some point. I love to 553 00:26:52,874 --> 00:26:56,074 Speaker 1: thank you and that's all we have time for today. 554 00:26:56,274 --> 00:26:58,514 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to you beauty. 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