1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:23,874 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:18,754 --> 00:00:21,354 Speaker 2: From Mom and MEA. Welcome to this bill, your daily 3 00:00:21,393 --> 00:00:23,834 Speaker 2: pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodnick. 4 00:00:23,474 --> 00:00:24,874 Speaker 3: And I'm Tina provis and. 5 00:00:24,914 --> 00:00:27,554 Speaker 2: Coming up on the show today, poor little Timothy Shalomy 6 00:00:27,954 --> 00:00:30,234 Speaker 2: has gone viral again for all the wrong reasons. 7 00:00:30,314 --> 00:00:31,954 Speaker 4: People are furious at him. 8 00:00:32,354 --> 00:00:34,114 Speaker 2: I think I'm going to have to defend him, so 9 00:00:34,274 --> 00:00:36,714 Speaker 2: I might get canceled, So stick around for that might 10 00:00:36,714 --> 00:00:39,074 Speaker 2: be my last day on the pod. Plus even more 11 00:00:39,114 --> 00:00:41,714 Speaker 2: Beckham family drama. But the one person that we wanted 12 00:00:41,714 --> 00:00:44,913 Speaker 2: to speak about the drama has given a short interview, 13 00:00:44,913 --> 00:00:46,553 Speaker 2: but it does speak volumes, so we're going to get 14 00:00:46,553 --> 00:00:49,913 Speaker 2: into that. But first, some fun news from one of 15 00:00:49,913 --> 00:00:53,473 Speaker 2: our favorite celeb interviewers. So I awoke this morning to 16 00:00:53,513 --> 00:00:56,954 Speaker 2: the news that Chicken Shop Date creator Amelia de Moldenburg 17 00:00:57,273 --> 00:01:01,874 Speaker 2: is developing a romantic comedy series based on her job 18 00:01:01,914 --> 00:01:02,354 Speaker 2: in life. 19 00:01:02,514 --> 00:01:05,194 Speaker 5: I love this. I love anything she does. I can't 20 00:01:05,194 --> 00:01:07,034 Speaker 5: get enough of her. I feel like it speaks to 21 00:01:07,194 --> 00:01:09,874 Speaker 5: how long standing like Chicken Shop Dates has been and 22 00:01:09,874 --> 00:01:10,874 Speaker 5: I'm obsessed with it. 23 00:01:10,994 --> 00:01:12,394 Speaker 3: So I'm sad. 24 00:01:12,794 --> 00:01:14,794 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love how when people just like she just 25 00:01:14,834 --> 00:01:16,314 Speaker 2: came out of nowhere I'm like, no, know, she's been 26 00:01:16,314 --> 00:01:19,354 Speaker 2: working on Chicken Shop for nearly eleven years now. It's crazy, 27 00:01:19,514 --> 00:01:21,514 Speaker 2: and that's how long it takes to be an overnight success. 28 00:01:21,674 --> 00:01:24,674 Speaker 3: I feel, yeah, yeah, she's been cooking for a while. Yeah. 29 00:01:24,714 --> 00:01:27,674 Speaker 2: So what we know about the Romantic Comedy project is 30 00:01:27,674 --> 00:01:29,954 Speaker 2: that Amelia is going to start as a I love 31 00:01:29,994 --> 00:01:33,394 Speaker 2: this description as a by the book journalist whose carefully 32 00:01:33,434 --> 00:01:37,674 Speaker 2: planned life unravels when a routine celebrity interview unexpectedly turns 33 00:01:37,714 --> 00:01:40,754 Speaker 2: into a romance that makes her question everything she believes 34 00:01:40,754 --> 00:01:41,394 Speaker 2: about love. 35 00:01:41,474 --> 00:01:42,314 Speaker 3: This could happen for you. 36 00:01:44,154 --> 00:01:47,514 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to think of any yeah, any interview 37 00:01:47,594 --> 00:01:49,714 Speaker 2: where I've had a romantic connection and there has yet 38 00:01:49,714 --> 00:01:50,354 Speaker 2: to be one. 39 00:01:50,194 --> 00:01:51,834 Speaker 3: Yet to be one. I think it's still to come. 40 00:01:52,434 --> 00:01:54,994 Speaker 4: Maybe maybe that is some fun fans fiction. 41 00:01:55,154 --> 00:01:57,474 Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of people have about celebrity interviews, 42 00:01:57,474 --> 00:02:00,234 Speaker 2: but particularly her, because one of her biggest viral moments 43 00:02:00,594 --> 00:02:02,914 Speaker 2: her series was already kind of blowing up on YouTube 44 00:02:02,954 --> 00:02:05,474 Speaker 2: and stuff. But remember when she interviewed Andrew Garfield the 45 00:02:05,514 --> 00:02:09,793 Speaker 2: first time on a red carpet and they were so flirty. 46 00:02:09,514 --> 00:02:11,834 Speaker 5: There was chemistry. I thought they were going to date 47 00:02:11,874 --> 00:02:12,274 Speaker 5: after that. 48 00:02:12,554 --> 00:02:14,434 Speaker 4: I think a lot of people really wanted that, and I'm. 49 00:02:14,314 --> 00:02:15,994 Speaker 3: Let down by it, so we need to get them 50 00:02:15,994 --> 00:02:16,994 Speaker 3: on screen together. 51 00:02:17,274 --> 00:02:18,394 Speaker 4: That video blew up. 52 00:02:18,434 --> 00:02:19,914 Speaker 2: I know people who were saying, like, I've watched that 53 00:02:19,994 --> 00:02:22,194 Speaker 2: video like fifty times, just on repeat. 54 00:02:22,234 --> 00:02:24,314 Speaker 4: I didn't quite get that vibe into it. 55 00:02:24,354 --> 00:02:26,834 Speaker 2: But then when Andrew Garthia went on Chicken Chop Date, 56 00:02:26,994 --> 00:02:28,474 Speaker 2: it felt like the world stopped that day. 57 00:02:28,514 --> 00:02:29,274 Speaker 4: It was such a big deal. 58 00:02:29,314 --> 00:02:32,154 Speaker 5: Oh my god, I feel like there's like an undeniable chemistry. 59 00:02:32,154 --> 00:02:34,634 Speaker 5: Like you read them, he's an actor, so I think 60 00:02:34,674 --> 00:02:36,474 Speaker 5: we have to take a bit of grain of salt. 61 00:02:36,514 --> 00:02:38,434 Speaker 3: But I just want more from them. 62 00:02:38,474 --> 00:02:39,034 Speaker 4: I want more. 63 00:02:39,874 --> 00:02:42,114 Speaker 2: I can't remember which girlfriend he was with the time, 64 00:02:42,194 --> 00:02:43,913 Speaker 2: because he was maybe he was single then when he 65 00:02:43,954 --> 00:02:45,794 Speaker 2: went on Chicken Chop Date. But remember he was dating 66 00:02:45,834 --> 00:02:48,434 Speaker 2: the psychologist who was also practicing witch. 67 00:02:48,994 --> 00:02:49,634 Speaker 4: Do you remember that? 68 00:02:49,834 --> 00:02:51,594 Speaker 5: No, I didn't think I was here for that. What 69 00:02:51,714 --> 00:02:54,154 Speaker 5: is the law so practicing with yeah? 70 00:02:54,194 --> 00:02:58,114 Speaker 2: Yeah, practicing which and also like advocate and a podcast host, 71 00:02:58,114 --> 00:02:59,914 Speaker 2: all the things, just a. 72 00:02:59,674 --> 00:03:01,274 Speaker 4: Double hyphen or whatever the bio. 73 00:03:01,514 --> 00:03:01,674 Speaker 5: Yeah. 74 00:03:01,754 --> 00:03:04,714 Speaker 4: And the reason that their relationship went so viral because she. 75 00:03:04,714 --> 00:03:06,234 Speaker 3: Was just like because she was a witch. 76 00:03:06,434 --> 00:03:07,474 Speaker 4: Well that I don't know. 77 00:03:07,514 --> 00:03:10,394 Speaker 2: People were accusing her of casting a spell on Andrew 78 00:03:10,394 --> 00:03:14,514 Speaker 2: Garfield and making him fall in love with her too. 79 00:03:14,674 --> 00:03:14,914 Speaker 4: I know. 80 00:03:15,474 --> 00:03:17,954 Speaker 2: The funniest thing is when she she commented on it, 81 00:03:18,234 --> 00:03:19,994 Speaker 2: and she came out and she said, I would never 82 00:03:20,074 --> 00:03:21,234 Speaker 2: do that, not that I couldn't. 83 00:03:21,314 --> 00:03:23,394 Speaker 5: Oh my god, she should, I would see and she 84 00:03:23,434 --> 00:03:24,793 Speaker 5: should have made millions out of this. 85 00:03:24,994 --> 00:03:27,754 Speaker 2: So her I feel like, you can buy her spells 86 00:03:27,794 --> 00:03:30,914 Speaker 2: and whatnot, but she doesn't recommend using them for evil. 87 00:03:30,954 --> 00:03:32,354 Speaker 2: So I don't think she want to sell you a 88 00:03:32,354 --> 00:03:34,834 Speaker 2: love potion, but she could, is the point. And then 89 00:03:34,994 --> 00:03:36,834 Speaker 2: and then he was dating someone else, but everyone wanted 90 00:03:36,874 --> 00:03:38,874 Speaker 2: them to get together. But I feel once they got together, 91 00:03:38,954 --> 00:03:42,954 Speaker 2: the vibe on their like interview, maybe wasn't as I 92 00:03:42,994 --> 00:03:44,034 Speaker 2: think people built it up to. 93 00:03:44,034 --> 00:03:45,954 Speaker 5: You, and it's like longer form, Like I think it's 94 00:03:45,954 --> 00:03:48,434 Speaker 5: different like running into someone like on a carpet. 95 00:03:48,074 --> 00:03:49,074 Speaker 3: Having a brief moment. 96 00:03:49,154 --> 00:03:52,514 Speaker 5: Yeah, but when you're sitting down in that context, I 97 00:03:52,514 --> 00:03:54,714 Speaker 5: think probably can see behind it a bit more. 98 00:03:54,834 --> 00:03:55,754 Speaker 4: Yeah. Exactly. 99 00:03:55,954 --> 00:03:58,434 Speaker 2: When I was reading this announcement though from Variety this morning, 100 00:03:58,514 --> 00:04:01,034 Speaker 2: I was just thinking, like how much it brings back 101 00:04:01,034 --> 00:04:03,074 Speaker 2: that conversation of the fact that Hollywood at the moment, 102 00:04:03,154 --> 00:04:05,274 Speaker 2: Like they know they need to get the wrongcom machine 103 00:04:05,394 --> 00:04:08,514 Speaker 2: churning again. They know that audiences are desperate for it. 104 00:04:08,594 --> 00:04:10,554 Speaker 2: We need those big rom com movies that can open 105 00:04:10,594 --> 00:04:13,634 Speaker 2: a cinema and also TV shows that can sustain that 106 00:04:13,674 --> 00:04:15,834 Speaker 2: because that is a thing that keeps people tuning in 107 00:04:16,113 --> 00:04:19,113 Speaker 2: and having those press runs where like you can see 108 00:04:19,113 --> 00:04:21,794 Speaker 2: the couple kind of like flirting, Like that's bringing people 109 00:04:21,794 --> 00:04:24,113 Speaker 2: into movies, but they just can't seem to get that 110 00:04:24,234 --> 00:04:24,874 Speaker 2: formula right. 111 00:04:24,993 --> 00:04:27,873 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's definitely been a decline of rom comms. I know, 112 00:04:27,953 --> 00:04:30,153 Speaker 5: Reese with the Spoon came out last year and she 113 00:04:30,474 --> 00:04:33,393 Speaker 5: kind of made this correlation between how we're seeing less 114 00:04:33,393 --> 00:04:36,794 Speaker 5: wrong comms and then there's also this like decline in 115 00:04:36,873 --> 00:04:39,113 Speaker 5: modern dating and you know we don't have that like 116 00:04:39,553 --> 00:04:44,274 Speaker 5: idealized look into love and romance, and I think it's 117 00:04:44,313 --> 00:04:46,914 Speaker 5: really interesting to see is there a link between the two. 118 00:04:47,393 --> 00:04:49,193 Speaker 2: I love her comments on that parst. She thinks modern 119 00:04:49,234 --> 00:04:51,314 Speaker 2: dating is taking a four because of rom comms, and like, 120 00:04:51,354 --> 00:04:53,034 Speaker 2: I know people call her out for that, but also 121 00:04:53,354 --> 00:04:54,833 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even know what to say to 122 00:04:54,834 --> 00:04:56,474 Speaker 2: fix modern dating at this point in time. 123 00:04:56,513 --> 00:04:58,514 Speaker 3: But I don't think we're giving advice, but I think, but. 124 00:04:58,474 --> 00:05:00,433 Speaker 2: I also think I'm not giving advice to anyone, But 125 00:05:00,433 --> 00:05:02,354 Speaker 2: I also think a few more rong comms couldn't hurt. 126 00:05:02,393 --> 00:05:04,594 Speaker 2: And we keep talking at the fact that like studios 127 00:05:04,633 --> 00:05:07,553 Speaker 2: when they're doing press runs keep dressing movies up as 128 00:05:07,594 --> 00:05:09,993 Speaker 2: to get audiences in, but once you actually get into 129 00:05:09,993 --> 00:05:12,273 Speaker 2: the cinema, they're not a rom com. So they know 130 00:05:12,354 --> 00:05:14,313 Speaker 2: it's there, but they just can't figure out how to 131 00:05:14,553 --> 00:05:16,713 Speaker 2: bring that magic back. And it made me think of 132 00:05:16,753 --> 00:05:18,594 Speaker 2: this interview as watching now that one of those Actors 133 00:05:18,594 --> 00:05:21,833 Speaker 2: on Actors Interviews with Kate Hudson and Jeremy Allen Whyite 134 00:05:21,834 --> 00:05:23,273 Speaker 2: and she asked him if he would ever do a 135 00:05:23,313 --> 00:05:25,674 Speaker 2: rom com and he was like, yeah, Like put this 136 00:05:25,794 --> 00:05:27,953 Speaker 2: boy didn't realize what he was stepping into, and he 137 00:05:28,113 --> 00:05:30,513 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, it looks really fun. You see Kate 138 00:05:30,594 --> 00:05:32,553 Speaker 2: Hudson just sit up on her chair and it's actually 139 00:05:32,553 --> 00:05:34,953 Speaker 2: harder than you think. Yeah, for sure, it's really hard 140 00:05:34,993 --> 00:05:36,713 Speaker 2: to get it right. There's a lot goes into it. 141 00:05:36,753 --> 00:05:38,514 Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, it is hard to get 142 00:05:38,513 --> 00:05:38,833 Speaker 2: it right. 143 00:05:38,873 --> 00:05:40,993 Speaker 3: I think you've got to get the chemistry with the cast. 144 00:05:41,234 --> 00:05:43,794 Speaker 5: And it's also I think there was from the Rise 145 00:05:43,794 --> 00:05:46,313 Speaker 5: of social media over the past decade, I think a 146 00:05:46,313 --> 00:05:50,233 Speaker 5: lot of people started to find them cringey gen zevo, 147 00:05:50,433 --> 00:05:54,153 Speaker 5: like cringe over the rom com. But I think, you 148 00:05:54,154 --> 00:05:57,313 Speaker 5: know what's wrong with romanticizing showing up for people going 149 00:05:57,354 --> 00:05:59,714 Speaker 5: after someone that you love, and we don't see a. 150 00:05:59,674 --> 00:06:01,513 Speaker 3: Whole lot of that in the way that we used to. 151 00:06:01,953 --> 00:06:04,234 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And I feel like people are alreay scared 152 00:06:04,274 --> 00:06:06,273 Speaker 2: to do it now because even just looking back on 153 00:06:06,313 --> 00:06:07,834 Speaker 2: like How Lose a Guy in Ten Days, when Kate 154 00:06:07,873 --> 00:06:09,794 Speaker 2: Hudson was talking about how hard it was to make 155 00:06:09,834 --> 00:06:12,594 Speaker 2: that movie work, I do believe her because I feel like, 156 00:06:12,873 --> 00:06:15,513 Speaker 2: imagine some of those scenes in the wrong hands, or 157 00:06:15,513 --> 00:06:17,713 Speaker 2: if the chemistry wasn't there, or if like some of 158 00:06:17,753 --> 00:06:20,354 Speaker 2: the like crazy stuff she did with that character did 159 00:06:20,393 --> 00:06:20,913 Speaker 2: she work. 160 00:06:21,313 --> 00:06:22,354 Speaker 4: She's so clo good. 161 00:06:22,393 --> 00:06:24,433 Speaker 2: I think like that she's teetering on the edge of 162 00:06:24,474 --> 00:06:27,394 Speaker 2: that like being a bit crazy or like being unbelievable, 163 00:06:27,513 --> 00:06:29,553 Speaker 2: and she just played it perfectly. But if she had 164 00:06:29,594 --> 00:06:32,193 Speaker 2: gone a little further in either direction, that movie would 165 00:06:32,193 --> 00:06:33,433 Speaker 2: have been unbearable to watch. 166 00:06:33,553 --> 00:06:34,713 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a fun So. 167 00:06:34,714 --> 00:06:37,793 Speaker 2: I feel like why everyone's sharing this. Amelia de Molneberg 168 00:06:37,873 --> 00:06:40,474 Speaker 2: News today that she's making this romantic comedy is because 169 00:06:40,594 --> 00:06:43,274 Speaker 2: she's brought people into her series with this idea that 170 00:06:43,674 --> 00:06:46,273 Speaker 2: because obviously they're fake dates with these celebrities, but she's 171 00:06:46,274 --> 00:06:48,714 Speaker 2: brought people with this idea of like this fantasy thing 172 00:06:48,753 --> 00:06:51,193 Speaker 2: of like this kind of awkward fangirl who meets this 173 00:06:51,274 --> 00:06:53,714 Speaker 2: famous people and they potentially fall in love with her. 174 00:06:53,753 --> 00:06:56,034 Speaker 2: And people have like loved it so much that now 175 00:06:56,034 --> 00:06:58,594 Speaker 2: it's becoming its like own fictionalized thing. 176 00:06:58,794 --> 00:06:58,993 Speaker 3: Yeah. 177 00:06:58,993 --> 00:07:00,833 Speaker 5: I can't wait to see this one come to life. 178 00:07:00,873 --> 00:07:02,633 Speaker 5: And I think she's going to do great and I'm 179 00:07:02,674 --> 00:07:04,914 Speaker 5: glad that she's starring in it. Yeah, she's about to 180 00:07:04,993 --> 00:07:10,794 Speaker 5: start it huge. The latest developments from the Beckham family 181 00:07:10,794 --> 00:07:13,393 Speaker 5: feud have come out this morning hot off the press. 182 00:07:13,434 --> 00:07:16,994 Speaker 5: We now have word from singer and longtime family friend 183 00:07:17,034 --> 00:07:20,434 Speaker 5: of the Beckhams, Mark Anthony, who we know m sed 184 00:07:20,714 --> 00:07:25,154 Speaker 5: at Brooklyn Beckham's wedding and he has finally broken his silence. 185 00:07:25,554 --> 00:07:27,114 Speaker 2: Yes, and this is the man that we wanted to 186 00:07:27,154 --> 00:07:29,554 Speaker 2: hear from it. I wanted a statement from this man 187 00:07:29,834 --> 00:07:33,354 Speaker 2: since the first wedding happened between Nikola and Brooklyn many 188 00:07:33,434 --> 00:07:36,634 Speaker 2: years ago. Now, when like all these blind items started 189 00:07:36,634 --> 00:07:39,474 Speaker 2: coming out after the wedding that Mark Antony had done something. 190 00:07:39,554 --> 00:07:40,914 Speaker 4: So this has been around for a long time. 191 00:07:40,953 --> 00:07:44,314 Speaker 2: But obviously when Brooklyn named him in his statement where 192 00:07:44,354 --> 00:07:47,754 Speaker 2: he said Mark Antony called Victoria Beckham up called her 193 00:07:47,794 --> 00:07:50,514 Speaker 2: the most beautiful woman at their wedding instead of Nickola 194 00:07:50,554 --> 00:07:51,594 Speaker 2: and she ran from the room. 195 00:07:51,674 --> 00:07:53,593 Speaker 3: He has been like, he's number one on the list. 196 00:07:53,714 --> 00:07:55,474 Speaker 3: We need to hear from this man. 197 00:07:55,754 --> 00:07:58,393 Speaker 5: We didn't get a whole lot of words out of him, 198 00:07:58,434 --> 00:08:00,033 Speaker 5: but I think, you know, it says a lot, and 199 00:08:00,074 --> 00:08:03,554 Speaker 5: it's him really doubling down on backing the family. So 200 00:08:03,794 --> 00:08:06,074 Speaker 5: when asked on the matter, Mark has come out and said, 201 00:08:06,234 --> 00:08:08,234 Speaker 5: I have nothing to say about what happened there. It's 202 00:08:08,274 --> 00:08:11,314 Speaker 5: extremely unfortunate how it's playing out, but how it's playing 203 00:08:11,354 --> 00:08:12,674 Speaker 5: out is hardly the truth. 204 00:08:12,953 --> 00:08:15,674 Speaker 2: So not a lot, not a lot from him, Yeah, 205 00:08:15,714 --> 00:08:18,634 Speaker 2: but it kind of does speak volumes in a way. 206 00:08:18,634 --> 00:08:19,634 Speaker 3: That's what it needs to say. 207 00:08:19,634 --> 00:08:21,874 Speaker 2: The fact that he obviously, I think if he's doing 208 00:08:21,914 --> 00:08:23,554 Speaker 2: an interview, because he does a lot of press for 209 00:08:23,674 --> 00:08:25,674 Speaker 2: his like tours and shows and stuff, he was going 210 00:08:25,754 --> 00:08:27,953 Speaker 2: to get asked eventually, and he must have decided, like 211 00:08:28,034 --> 00:08:29,994 Speaker 2: just to answer it once and it couldn't be completely 212 00:08:30,074 --> 00:08:33,874 Speaker 2: off the table, but also saying that it's really unfortunate. 213 00:08:33,914 --> 00:08:36,874 Speaker 2: And also he's taking a side because he's saying, like, 214 00:08:37,434 --> 00:08:40,794 Speaker 2: what your hearing is not the correct information, and so 215 00:08:40,954 --> 00:08:44,354 Speaker 2: he's siding with Victoria and David and really kind of 216 00:08:44,394 --> 00:08:48,234 Speaker 2: like painting this picture that Brooklyn is misrepresenting the situation 217 00:08:48,834 --> 00:08:51,754 Speaker 2: and giving the wrong information. And it's only a brief sentence, 218 00:08:52,074 --> 00:08:55,074 Speaker 2: but it's quite telling of like where he's at with it. 219 00:08:55,314 --> 00:08:56,474 Speaker 3: I need more information. 220 00:08:56,674 --> 00:08:59,274 Speaker 2: I need a novel from that man, in a documentary 221 00:08:59,274 --> 00:09:01,594 Speaker 2: and in a tempt Yeah, yeah, well I was gonna say, 222 00:09:01,594 --> 00:09:03,314 Speaker 2: get Oprah involved, not even opright, someone to. 223 00:09:03,274 --> 00:09:07,874 Speaker 4: Go harder, more of a hard follow up question, elaborate. 224 00:09:08,034 --> 00:09:10,274 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I'm assuming that he was like i'ld say 225 00:09:10,274 --> 00:09:12,154 Speaker 2: that about it and that's it, and they could impress him. 226 00:09:12,194 --> 00:09:14,114 Speaker 4: But yeah, I do want Mormon. 227 00:09:14,154 --> 00:09:16,954 Speaker 2: It's kind of interesting that he has essentially taken aside 228 00:09:17,034 --> 00:09:20,434 Speaker 2: and every single person who's spoken a Brown, Victoria and 229 00:09:20,554 --> 00:09:24,234 Speaker 2: David has eluded or spoken about the fact that they 230 00:09:24,394 --> 00:09:25,914 Speaker 2: think Brooklyn is not telling the truth. 231 00:09:25,994 --> 00:09:27,594 Speaker 5: I mean, at this point he said more than the 232 00:09:27,634 --> 00:09:30,874 Speaker 5: Beckham family, who are now communicating via tattoo. 233 00:09:31,714 --> 00:09:34,834 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, So the first kind of I guess, like 234 00:09:34,954 --> 00:09:37,234 Speaker 2: hitch in the tattoo wall that the family is having. 235 00:09:37,314 --> 00:09:39,674 Speaker 2: This might be the silliest conversation tattoos. 236 00:09:39,874 --> 00:09:41,834 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is what This is what rich. 237 00:09:41,714 --> 00:09:44,354 Speaker 2: Neppo babies do when they can't like, you know, express 238 00:09:44,354 --> 00:09:48,234 Speaker 2: their motions anyway, they fight via paparazzi or Instagram photos. 239 00:09:47,874 --> 00:09:49,314 Speaker 4: And their new tattoos. 240 00:09:49,394 --> 00:09:53,594 Speaker 2: Yes, so Brooklyn Beckham who has I was looking for 241 00:09:53,594 --> 00:09:55,914 Speaker 2: a number of how many tattoos, but it's obviously varying 242 00:09:55,954 --> 00:09:59,114 Speaker 2: reports because you can't see all of them. But fifty 243 00:09:59,234 --> 00:10:01,954 Speaker 2: sixty seventy I was reading like many many when they 244 00:10:01,994 --> 00:10:04,754 Speaker 2: kind of merge all tatted up all over, but he 245 00:10:04,834 --> 00:10:07,314 Speaker 2: had a very prominent one for a long time. That 246 00:10:07,514 --> 00:10:11,274 Speaker 2: was a bit of a nod to his father, David Beckham, Dad, Yeah, 247 00:10:11,834 --> 00:10:14,034 Speaker 2: a bit of also had the like and because he 248 00:10:14,074 --> 00:10:16,234 Speaker 2: calls him Buster and like that was incorporated into it. 249 00:10:16,274 --> 00:10:18,434 Speaker 2: And that was like a really sweet tattoo. And some 250 00:10:18,474 --> 00:10:21,594 Speaker 2: photos and paparazzi photos released the other day where that 251 00:10:21,634 --> 00:10:22,994 Speaker 2: tattoo has been covered up. 252 00:10:23,194 --> 00:10:25,434 Speaker 3: But also he had tattoos for all his. 253 00:10:25,394 --> 00:10:27,834 Speaker 4: Siblings, which all the older boys. 254 00:10:27,514 --> 00:10:30,154 Speaker 2: Have, so like the older boys also have like sibling 255 00:10:30,274 --> 00:10:32,274 Speaker 2: names and all that sort of stuff, but it looks 256 00:10:32,274 --> 00:10:35,074 Speaker 2: from the photos he's also had his siblings names. 257 00:10:34,834 --> 00:10:36,953 Speaker 3: Covered up as I didn't see that one. 258 00:10:36,714 --> 00:10:39,914 Speaker 2: So Brooklyn is kind of like erasing his family, his 259 00:10:40,394 --> 00:10:43,234 Speaker 2: two brothers, Cruise and Romeo, and sister Harper. I'm not 260 00:10:43,274 --> 00:10:45,274 Speaker 2: sure if he's had all his Harper tattoos removed. It's 261 00:10:45,274 --> 00:10:46,314 Speaker 2: hard because obviously he's not. 262 00:10:46,234 --> 00:10:48,314 Speaker 3: Doing a tattoo tour yah tattootoo, but. 263 00:10:48,354 --> 00:10:51,274 Speaker 2: He's definitely had his siblings names like covered over and 264 00:10:51,354 --> 00:10:54,754 Speaker 2: his tribute to David Beckham covered from what we can see. 265 00:10:54,834 --> 00:10:57,194 Speaker 4: And then in response to that, I'm assuming in. 266 00:10:57,154 --> 00:11:00,914 Speaker 2: Response to that, Romeo Beckham has shared a photo that 267 00:11:00,954 --> 00:11:01,914 Speaker 2: a tattoo artist put off. 268 00:11:01,994 --> 00:11:05,354 Speaker 4: Obviously ink he got and it's family tattooed across the 269 00:11:05,434 --> 00:11:06,794 Speaker 4: back of his back bed. 270 00:11:07,194 --> 00:11:09,114 Speaker 3: Can cover it a hair he changes his mind, he 271 00:11:09,114 --> 00:11:10,594 Speaker 3: can grow the hair over. Yeah. 272 00:11:10,674 --> 00:11:12,994 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a low commitment spot to put it, so 273 00:11:13,234 --> 00:11:14,554 Speaker 5: any scitement, Yeah yeah. 274 00:11:14,594 --> 00:11:15,234 Speaker 4: It's one of those things. 275 00:11:15,314 --> 00:11:17,874 Speaker 2: Is like one because they're so prominent with their tattoos 276 00:11:18,194 --> 00:11:21,714 Speaker 2: that Brooklyn is having all his family tattoos removed, and 277 00:11:21,754 --> 00:11:24,034 Speaker 2: I think he has about I'm sure some people think 278 00:11:24,034 --> 00:11:26,154 Speaker 2: this is sweet. Maybe it's sweet. I find it a bit. 279 00:11:26,234 --> 00:11:27,994 Speaker 4: I don't know. I guess if you have tattoos, it's fine. 280 00:11:28,314 --> 00:11:32,154 Speaker 2: He has about twenty for his wife, Nikola Healthspeckham. 281 00:11:32,594 --> 00:11:35,953 Speaker 5: That's a lot that's concerning to me. But again you're 282 00:11:35,994 --> 00:11:38,114 Speaker 5: saying he has around fifty, So if twenty of them 283 00:11:38,114 --> 00:11:41,434 Speaker 5: are for her, yeah, so that's like more than twenty. 284 00:11:41,474 --> 00:11:42,994 Speaker 2: I feel like that was an old interview he gave. 285 00:11:43,074 --> 00:11:44,674 Speaker 2: But yeah, oh my gosh. 286 00:11:44,754 --> 00:11:47,714 Speaker 5: Yeah, interesting how they they choose to write it on 287 00:11:47,754 --> 00:11:48,274 Speaker 5: their bodies. 288 00:11:48,634 --> 00:11:50,194 Speaker 3: Not something I've done yet. 289 00:11:50,354 --> 00:11:52,354 Speaker 2: But I also think, well, they're married, so I guess 290 00:11:52,394 --> 00:11:54,834 Speaker 2: getting a tattoo once you've done that doesn't seem like 291 00:11:54,834 --> 00:11:56,394 Speaker 2: such a big deal. But I also think if you're 292 00:11:56,394 --> 00:11:58,154 Speaker 2: just a tattoo person and you have them all over 293 00:11:58,194 --> 00:12:00,154 Speaker 2: your body, it's not as high a stage. 294 00:12:00,194 --> 00:12:02,234 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it starts to mean like less. 295 00:12:02,354 --> 00:12:03,874 Speaker 5: Like I would throw a phase where I got one 296 00:12:03,914 --> 00:12:05,034 Speaker 5: and then I got a few more, and then I 297 00:12:05,434 --> 00:12:11,114 Speaker 5: nearly entered armed territory. Really, but it was COVID, so yeah, 298 00:12:11,114 --> 00:12:12,874 Speaker 5: nothing's happening in my life. And then after COVID, when 299 00:12:12,914 --> 00:12:14,594 Speaker 5: I was like, god, I didn't do that. 300 00:12:14,794 --> 00:12:16,354 Speaker 2: Yeah, I had to take them moment. I mean, I 301 00:12:16,474 --> 00:12:19,274 Speaker 2: love to see the sleeve tattooed. But sometimes I just think, 302 00:12:19,314 --> 00:12:21,714 Speaker 2: like with Pete Davidson as example, like when he got 303 00:12:21,794 --> 00:12:24,034 Speaker 2: Kim and her kids names, people were so up in 304 00:12:24,114 --> 00:12:26,114 Speaker 2: arms on that, and I was like, guys, his whole 305 00:12:26,114 --> 00:12:28,594 Speaker 2: body is tattooed, like it's not the it's not as 306 00:12:28,594 --> 00:12:29,754 Speaker 2: intense for him. 307 00:12:29,554 --> 00:12:31,114 Speaker 4: I feel as for other people. 308 00:12:31,114 --> 00:12:32,154 Speaker 3: And he's got the more removed. 309 00:12:32,154 --> 00:12:33,074 Speaker 4: Now you can get them. 310 00:12:33,114 --> 00:12:35,154 Speaker 5: They have money as well, so they don't have to 311 00:12:35,154 --> 00:12:36,874 Speaker 5: think about well I'll be able to afford getting his 312 00:12:37,074 --> 00:12:37,914 Speaker 5: remove Just. 313 00:12:37,874 --> 00:12:38,714 Speaker 4: Get them come out. 314 00:12:38,794 --> 00:12:41,914 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's kind of interesting how Brooklyn hasn't said 315 00:12:41,954 --> 00:12:45,274 Speaker 2: anything now since he put that statement out. The Crews, 316 00:12:45,394 --> 00:12:47,714 Speaker 2: the youngest of the brothers, had put up that story 317 00:12:47,794 --> 00:12:52,154 Speaker 2: about the family like Victoria and David blocking Brooklyn, and 318 00:12:52,194 --> 00:12:53,833 Speaker 2: he was like, this isn't true. My parents would never 319 00:12:53,874 --> 00:12:56,194 Speaker 2: do that. Brooklyn is the one who blocked us. But 320 00:12:56,274 --> 00:12:58,714 Speaker 2: after that, none of the Beckham family have commented. So 321 00:12:58,754 --> 00:13:01,274 Speaker 2: the only information we have coming out from them now 322 00:13:01,994 --> 00:13:05,594 Speaker 2: is this tattoo reveal. This back and forth of like, 323 00:13:05,634 --> 00:13:07,994 Speaker 2: well I got the family removed, I got the family 324 00:13:08,354 --> 00:13:09,514 Speaker 2: on my back of my head. 325 00:13:09,794 --> 00:13:12,034 Speaker 3: Look it doesn't feel like the end. I feel like 326 00:13:12,074 --> 00:13:12,714 Speaker 3: there's more to come. 327 00:13:13,314 --> 00:13:14,394 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I guess like. 328 00:13:14,354 --> 00:13:16,074 Speaker 2: It's just one of those things, like it's just gonna 329 00:13:16,114 --> 00:13:19,794 Speaker 2: every week, there's gonna be something. And it's kind of 330 00:13:19,794 --> 00:13:23,154 Speaker 2: interesting because Nicola and Brooklyn are both very active on 331 00:13:23,194 --> 00:13:26,794 Speaker 2: their Instagram stories and they have been just sharing them 332 00:13:26,834 --> 00:13:29,674 Speaker 2: like here's us at home cooking, here's us well he's 333 00:13:29,674 --> 00:13:32,274 Speaker 2: trying to cook it and she was watching he put 334 00:13:32,354 --> 00:13:35,274 Speaker 2: up on the other day this Instagram story. Brooklyn Beckham, 335 00:13:35,314 --> 00:13:36,834 Speaker 2: I do love that boy. I feel very sad what 336 00:13:36,834 --> 00:13:39,074 Speaker 2: he's going through. And he was like he got take 337 00:13:39,074 --> 00:13:40,754 Speaker 2: out and set it up for Nikola and her friend 338 00:13:40,754 --> 00:13:42,034 Speaker 2: at the counter, and it was just the. 339 00:13:41,994 --> 00:13:44,194 Speaker 3: Most imagining what it looks like basically, Well, he. 340 00:13:44,354 --> 00:13:46,714 Speaker 2: Ordered in because I think he was one of those 341 00:13:46,914 --> 00:13:48,354 Speaker 2: if like they've had a conversation. 342 00:13:48,514 --> 00:13:50,074 Speaker 4: She was like, Babe, I can't it your food and. 343 00:13:50,034 --> 00:13:51,914 Speaker 3: I can't eat that. It looks insane. 344 00:13:52,034 --> 00:13:53,834 Speaker 2: So he had ordered take out for her and her 345 00:13:53,874 --> 00:13:55,714 Speaker 2: friend and he had I guess he's got time on 346 00:13:55,754 --> 00:13:57,674 Speaker 2: his on his hand on his hands. 347 00:13:57,674 --> 00:13:59,674 Speaker 5: In fact, he's making this kind of content where we're 348 00:13:59,714 --> 00:14:01,194 Speaker 5: like dissecting his whole family. 349 00:14:01,354 --> 00:14:03,834 Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone's watching his into stories to see what is 350 00:14:03,834 --> 00:14:04,594 Speaker 2: going to happen next and. 351 00:14:04,594 --> 00:14:06,034 Speaker 3: What they're going to shop to do at the moment, 352 00:14:06,074 --> 00:14:06,594 Speaker 3: And he had. 353 00:14:06,594 --> 00:14:09,034 Speaker 2: Ordered take for Nicola and her friend and like put 354 00:14:09,034 --> 00:14:11,034 Speaker 2: the plates out and just put the containers next to 355 00:14:11,074 --> 00:14:13,034 Speaker 2: it and put like an empty glass and then you 356 00:14:13,034 --> 00:14:14,954 Speaker 2: could see hid stage it. And then he'd like obviously 357 00:14:14,954 --> 00:14:18,154 Speaker 2: taken about fifteen photos of his little setup, and like 358 00:14:18,354 --> 00:14:20,874 Speaker 2: Poston just posted what and like picked the best one 359 00:14:20,874 --> 00:14:23,074 Speaker 2: and posted it. And it's like I set dinner up 360 00:14:23,074 --> 00:14:25,754 Speaker 2: for Nikola and her friend and I was like, oh, dude, boy, 361 00:14:25,794 --> 00:14:27,514 Speaker 2: do you even know what's going on in the world 362 00:14:27,834 --> 00:14:30,394 Speaker 2: where everyone is so obsessed with your family and you're 363 00:14:30,514 --> 00:14:32,674 Speaker 2: like arranging takeout containers and posting it. 364 00:14:32,874 --> 00:14:35,074 Speaker 5: I feel like that's his whole life though, Yeah, like 365 00:14:35,114 --> 00:14:39,114 Speaker 5: he lives through socials from what I've seen, I'm not sure. 366 00:14:39,234 --> 00:14:40,034 Speaker 3: I'm not convinced. 367 00:14:40,514 --> 00:14:42,554 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I guess I think everyone's waiting for some 368 00:14:42,594 --> 00:14:45,034 Speaker 2: big statement of resolution, But I don't know if there's 369 00:14:45,074 --> 00:14:45,514 Speaker 2: really going. 370 00:14:45,434 --> 00:14:46,114 Speaker 4: To be anything. 371 00:14:46,434 --> 00:14:47,954 Speaker 2: We're just going to keep getting these little leaks of 372 00:14:47,994 --> 00:14:51,554 Speaker 2: information and like maybe one day, like the dial will 373 00:14:51,554 --> 00:14:52,714 Speaker 2: move a little bit, but get. 374 00:14:52,634 --> 00:14:53,354 Speaker 3: The waiting video. 375 00:14:54,034 --> 00:14:54,274 Speaker 5: Yeah. 376 00:14:54,354 --> 00:14:56,194 Speaker 3: By the tape released tapes. 377 00:14:58,594 --> 00:15:01,434 Speaker 2: So Young, Timothy Charlemagne is back in the news this week. 378 00:15:01,514 --> 00:15:04,234 Speaker 2: He's really leaning into the Oscar campaign. He's still doing 379 00:15:04,274 --> 00:15:06,514 Speaker 2: a lot of promo for Marty Supreme, so he's out 380 00:15:06,554 --> 00:15:09,794 Speaker 2: and about doing interviews and he's not coming off well 381 00:15:09,834 --> 00:15:10,674 Speaker 2: to a lot of people. 382 00:15:10,874 --> 00:15:13,234 Speaker 4: Let's just backtrack of what he said previously. What has 383 00:15:13,314 --> 00:15:14,194 Speaker 4: led to this moment. 384 00:15:14,394 --> 00:15:16,314 Speaker 2: It all started in twenty twenty five at the SAG 385 00:15:16,354 --> 00:15:19,514 Speaker 2: Awards when he won for a Complete Unknown. And this 386 00:15:19,554 --> 00:15:21,754 Speaker 2: is the first time I think people had really seen 387 00:15:21,794 --> 00:15:23,954 Speaker 2: this side of him. I guess like he'd done a 388 00:15:23,994 --> 00:15:26,274 Speaker 2: lot of interviews previously, but he kind of just felt 389 00:15:26,274 --> 00:15:28,514 Speaker 2: like a stock standard kind of celebrity, Like I don't 390 00:15:28,514 --> 00:15:30,914 Speaker 2: think he'd said anything that was kind of viral, and 391 00:15:31,074 --> 00:15:33,114 Speaker 2: he just talked a lot about his craft and all 392 00:15:33,154 --> 00:15:35,074 Speaker 2: that sort of stuff. But he got up on stage 393 00:15:35,114 --> 00:15:37,794 Speaker 2: and he said that he was really in the pursuit 394 00:15:37,874 --> 00:15:39,514 Speaker 2: of greatness, and a lot of people in the audience 395 00:15:39,594 --> 00:15:41,634 Speaker 2: and people watching at home were just like, Oh, there's 396 00:15:41,634 --> 00:15:44,634 Speaker 2: there's a except way except in speech going. And then 397 00:15:44,674 --> 00:15:46,314 Speaker 2: he went on to say and he always I find 398 00:15:46,314 --> 00:15:50,434 Speaker 2: it interesting that he always prefaces these viral moments by 399 00:15:50,514 --> 00:15:52,914 Speaker 2: saying like he knows people don't talk like that, and 400 00:15:52,914 --> 00:15:54,874 Speaker 2: that he knows people aren't supposed to say this, and 401 00:15:54,874 --> 00:15:56,554 Speaker 2: then he goes ahead and says what's on his head. 402 00:15:56,834 --> 00:15:59,114 Speaker 2: So on stage he said, people don't usually talk like this, 403 00:15:59,554 --> 00:16:01,394 Speaker 2: but I want to be one of the greats, and 404 00:16:01,434 --> 00:16:03,274 Speaker 2: I know the classiest thing to do would be to 405 00:16:03,314 --> 00:16:05,274 Speaker 2: downplay the effort that went into this role and how 406 00:16:05,394 --> 00:16:07,634 Speaker 2: much it means to me. But the truth, this was 407 00:16:07,674 --> 00:16:09,394 Speaker 2: five and a half years of my life and I 408 00:16:09,434 --> 00:16:12,034 Speaker 2: poured everything into it, which is not He got a 409 00:16:12,034 --> 00:16:13,914 Speaker 2: bit of backlash. She also name checked a bunch of 410 00:16:13,914 --> 00:16:16,514 Speaker 2: other actors he wanted to be like, like Viola Davis 411 00:16:16,554 --> 00:16:17,594 Speaker 2: was one of them, and I was just like. 412 00:16:17,554 --> 00:16:18,074 Speaker 4: I feel like that. 413 00:16:18,194 --> 00:16:18,754 Speaker 3: I like that. 414 00:16:18,834 --> 00:16:21,954 Speaker 5: I think there's something wrong with acknowledging like hard work, 415 00:16:22,074 --> 00:16:24,834 Speaker 5: Like you don't need to pretend that you didn't work 416 00:16:24,874 --> 00:16:26,554 Speaker 5: hard or that it came Like you can still be 417 00:16:26,594 --> 00:16:29,394 Speaker 5: grateful for the role and for what it brought you, 418 00:16:29,754 --> 00:16:31,714 Speaker 5: but acknowledge that you've worked really hard on it. 419 00:16:31,874 --> 00:16:32,074 Speaker 3: Yeah. 420 00:16:32,114 --> 00:16:33,594 Speaker 2: It just a lot of actors don't get up on 421 00:16:33,634 --> 00:16:36,234 Speaker 2: stage and say like, I want to be the greatest 422 00:16:36,274 --> 00:16:38,634 Speaker 2: and this is like a stepping stone to that. So 423 00:16:39,034 --> 00:16:41,234 Speaker 2: that happened, and then when he got on the Marty 424 00:16:41,314 --> 00:16:43,434 Speaker 2: Supreme press tour is when a few of his other 425 00:16:43,474 --> 00:16:47,154 Speaker 2: comments started to go viral. So he gave this interview, 426 00:16:47,394 --> 00:16:49,714 Speaker 2: which has been scrubbed from the internet, like I can't 427 00:16:49,714 --> 00:16:51,714 Speaker 2: find it anywhere now, And it was pretty much scrubbed 428 00:16:51,754 --> 00:16:53,474 Speaker 2: the day of because I think the day we talked 429 00:16:53,474 --> 00:16:55,754 Speaker 2: about it on the Bill, when this interview first came out, 430 00:16:56,034 --> 00:16:57,474 Speaker 2: I watched it in the morning. By the time we 431 00:16:57,554 --> 00:16:59,154 Speaker 2: recorded later in the day, it was gone. 432 00:16:59,154 --> 00:17:00,234 Speaker 3: I'm intraced like that. 433 00:17:00,554 --> 00:17:02,634 Speaker 2: It's yeah, I just I don't know if the journalists, 434 00:17:02,634 --> 00:17:05,114 Speaker 2: because it was a journalist who posted her own YouTube. 435 00:17:04,714 --> 00:17:05,634 Speaker 4: If she took it down. 436 00:17:05,994 --> 00:17:08,834 Speaker 2: I can't imagine with everything that Timothy has said that 437 00:17:08,874 --> 00:17:10,793 Speaker 2: he and his team would ask us one interview to 438 00:17:10,834 --> 00:17:12,874 Speaker 2: come down, because it also kind of makes it a 439 00:17:12,874 --> 00:17:15,034 Speaker 2: bigger deal then, and it was already obviously copied and 440 00:17:15,074 --> 00:17:16,793 Speaker 2: shared everywhere, so it's out in the world. So in 441 00:17:16,834 --> 00:17:19,874 Speaker 2: this interview, he said, talking about Marty Supreme, this is 442 00:17:19,874 --> 00:17:22,394 Speaker 2: probably my best performance. You know, it's been like seven 443 00:17:22,434 --> 00:17:25,954 Speaker 2: eight years I've been handing and really really committed top 444 00:17:25,994 --> 00:17:28,394 Speaker 2: of the line performances. And it's important to say it 445 00:17:28,394 --> 00:17:30,634 Speaker 2: out loud because the discipline and the work ethic I'm 446 00:17:30,634 --> 00:17:33,034 Speaker 2: bringing to these things. I don't want people to take 447 00:17:33,074 --> 00:17:35,954 Speaker 2: it for granted. This is some really top level shit. 448 00:17:36,234 --> 00:17:39,074 Speaker 2: And he got absolutely raped over the coals for that comment, 449 00:17:39,154 --> 00:17:41,994 Speaker 2: to the point where because in Marty Supreme he plays 450 00:17:42,034 --> 00:17:45,234 Speaker 2: a character who is really like, I am the greatest, 451 00:17:45,314 --> 00:17:47,194 Speaker 2: I am the best, like he tells other people in 452 00:17:47,234 --> 00:17:48,754 Speaker 2: his life, like it's okay for you because you can 453 00:17:48,834 --> 00:17:50,994 Speaker 2: live a normal life, but I'm not like that, I'm 454 00:17:50,994 --> 00:17:53,234 Speaker 2: one of the great So people thought, is he kind 455 00:17:53,234 --> 00:17:56,914 Speaker 2: of because playing on the press tour as Marty Supreme 456 00:17:57,474 --> 00:17:59,754 Speaker 2: again this week, he's been pulled into the headlines for 457 00:17:59,794 --> 00:18:02,994 Speaker 2: a similar interview with France inter So he did this 458 00:18:03,034 --> 00:18:05,394 Speaker 2: interview in French because he grew up in France and 459 00:18:05,514 --> 00:18:08,273 Speaker 2: speaks speaks the language, so that's fair enow. So this 460 00:18:08,314 --> 00:18:10,714 Speaker 2: has been translated, but I don't think it's been translated 461 00:18:10,954 --> 00:18:13,354 Speaker 2: to the point where the message hasn't come through. So 462 00:18:13,434 --> 00:18:16,593 Speaker 2: in the same interview he says, I know it's not 463 00:18:16,634 --> 00:18:19,874 Speaker 2: normal to talk about yourself like this. So he's again 464 00:18:19,914 --> 00:18:21,994 Speaker 2: he always procnoliged at the top. 465 00:18:21,914 --> 00:18:24,754 Speaker 3: Say it yeah with his chest, if you could say, But. 466 00:18:24,714 --> 00:18:26,513 Speaker 2: Then he does say it, yes, I think he's just 467 00:18:26,554 --> 00:18:28,034 Speaker 2: like kind of like, I know I'm not supposed to 468 00:18:28,034 --> 00:18:30,353 Speaker 2: say this, but I'm going to say it anyway. And 469 00:18:30,394 --> 00:18:32,714 Speaker 2: he says, I know I have a pretty unique talent, 470 00:18:33,154 --> 00:18:35,313 Speaker 2: and I know that I work hard. And then he 471 00:18:35,354 --> 00:18:36,794 Speaker 2: wanted to say, this is the bit people are upset 472 00:18:36,794 --> 00:18:39,834 Speaker 2: about it. He said, I work harder than almost anyone else. 473 00:18:39,914 --> 00:18:42,154 Speaker 4: I know. This is where I have an issue, Okay, 474 00:18:42,314 --> 00:18:43,154 Speaker 4: speaker issue. 475 00:18:43,234 --> 00:18:44,914 Speaker 5: My issue is I think it's one thing to like 476 00:18:44,994 --> 00:18:48,714 Speaker 5: back yourself and be confident, and obviously in Australia with 477 00:18:48,914 --> 00:18:51,354 Speaker 5: a lot of tall poppy syndrome and cutting people down 478 00:18:51,434 --> 00:18:52,714 Speaker 5: and you know, you have to kind of like play 479 00:18:52,754 --> 00:18:56,554 Speaker 5: down your achievements. But I think you can be confident 480 00:18:56,594 --> 00:18:59,474 Speaker 5: without being at the expense of everyone else that you 481 00:18:59,514 --> 00:19:00,154 Speaker 5: may work with. 482 00:19:00,594 --> 00:19:02,234 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess it's if anyone's going to 483 00:19:02,234 --> 00:19:03,514 Speaker 2: be upset, it's the people he works. 484 00:19:04,674 --> 00:19:05,434 Speaker 3: But I've got in mind. 485 00:19:05,714 --> 00:19:08,513 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so people are quite angry about the work. Comment. 486 00:19:08,634 --> 00:19:10,594 Speaker 2: One is that it's that same thing like when any 487 00:19:10,594 --> 00:19:13,754 Speaker 2: celebrity talks about hard work or going through something, is 488 00:19:13,754 --> 00:19:16,513 Speaker 2: that that whole rhetoric comes up of like, well, nurses 489 00:19:16,554 --> 00:19:19,394 Speaker 2: work harder than your teachers, or like people are saying like, 490 00:19:19,394 --> 00:19:21,234 Speaker 2: I'm sure the people who clean your home work much 491 00:19:21,234 --> 00:19:23,594 Speaker 2: harder than you. But I don't think that's the right 492 00:19:23,634 --> 00:19:25,553 Speaker 2: conversation to be happy, because I don't think any of 493 00:19:25,594 --> 00:19:27,554 Speaker 2: these celebs when they get up and talk about their 494 00:19:27,594 --> 00:19:30,114 Speaker 2: work or It's like when Kim Kardashian got raked over 495 00:19:30,114 --> 00:19:33,194 Speaker 2: the calls, was saying nobody wants to work anymore. And 496 00:19:33,274 --> 00:19:35,033 Speaker 2: I feel bad because I at the time was just like, 497 00:19:35,074 --> 00:19:36,793 Speaker 2: oh my god, like I said on this podcast, like 498 00:19:36,834 --> 00:19:39,754 Speaker 2: she's been crazy. But I take that back now, because 499 00:19:40,554 --> 00:19:42,954 Speaker 2: the question was, like we always got kind of swept up. 500 00:19:42,954 --> 00:19:46,513 Speaker 2: The question to Kim was what should women in business do? Yeah, 501 00:19:46,514 --> 00:19:48,754 Speaker 2: and she was talking about working harder. So she wasn't 502 00:19:48,754 --> 00:19:51,513 Speaker 2: saying like nurses don't work hard doctors. She was talking 503 00:19:51,514 --> 00:19:54,954 Speaker 2: about people and probably very rich, privileged women like her 504 00:19:55,074 --> 00:19:57,914 Speaker 2: who want to run a business. And she was saying 505 00:19:57,954 --> 00:19:59,834 Speaker 2: that it's not just like photoshoots and interviews. 506 00:19:59,834 --> 00:20:00,834 Speaker 4: You have to do the work. 507 00:20:01,234 --> 00:20:03,034 Speaker 2: And I think so she got kind of like raked 508 00:20:03,074 --> 00:20:05,954 Speaker 2: over the calls unfairly. And I think for Timothey, what 509 00:20:06,114 --> 00:20:08,754 Speaker 2: he is also saying, he's not saying like teachers and 510 00:20:08,794 --> 00:20:11,474 Speaker 2: doctors and nurses don't work. He's saying that out of 511 00:20:11,514 --> 00:20:14,434 Speaker 2: everyone I know, and he only knows other famous, rich people, 512 00:20:14,954 --> 00:20:16,714 Speaker 2: is that he put the work in. And I feel 513 00:20:16,834 --> 00:20:18,474 Speaker 2: very embarrassed that I'm defending him. 514 00:20:18,954 --> 00:20:20,114 Speaker 4: But when I heard. 515 00:20:20,114 --> 00:20:22,834 Speaker 2: His comments, I was like, fair enough, because he was 516 00:20:22,874 --> 00:20:25,714 Speaker 2: also talking about like knowing he had this talent and 517 00:20:25,754 --> 00:20:28,434 Speaker 2: like putting everything into it and working really hard. And 518 00:20:28,474 --> 00:20:31,313 Speaker 2: I just think sometimes we have to let people be tryhards. 519 00:20:31,914 --> 00:20:34,994 Speaker 2: I know it's very frown on two minds, okay. 520 00:20:34,714 --> 00:20:37,394 Speaker 5: Because I get that, and I actually think it's like 521 00:20:37,434 --> 00:20:40,274 Speaker 5: refreshing to hear someone say, you know, I've worked really 522 00:20:40,314 --> 00:20:42,114 Speaker 5: hard on this and this is what it's got to me, 523 00:20:42,194 --> 00:20:43,273 Speaker 5: and I'm really proud about that. 524 00:20:43,314 --> 00:20:44,874 Speaker 3: And I don't think there's anything wrong with that. 525 00:20:44,954 --> 00:20:46,914 Speaker 5: And I think to your point, when you're asked a 526 00:20:46,994 --> 00:20:51,114 Speaker 5: question like that, it is about your industry, about your peers. 527 00:20:50,954 --> 00:20:51,674 Speaker 3: You're working with. 528 00:20:52,034 --> 00:20:54,074 Speaker 5: But when it's the film industry and you're working with 529 00:20:54,114 --> 00:20:56,154 Speaker 5: people who are in production, who are working like around 530 00:20:56,154 --> 00:20:57,834 Speaker 5: the clock to ten something around and. 531 00:20:57,794 --> 00:21:00,434 Speaker 3: Prop you up, I think is a bold statement to make. 532 00:21:00,514 --> 00:21:03,434 Speaker 5: Also, let alone, like coming from a place of privilege, 533 00:21:03,434 --> 00:21:05,994 Speaker 5: like there are also my minorities in the room who're 534 00:21:06,034 --> 00:21:07,154 Speaker 5: working twice. 535 00:21:06,914 --> 00:21:08,714 Speaker 3: As hard to be in the same position. 536 00:21:09,034 --> 00:21:10,634 Speaker 2: Oh, and that is the other thing too, is that 537 00:21:10,674 --> 00:21:13,513 Speaker 2: he's not acknowledging the fact that he comes from like 538 00:21:13,634 --> 00:21:16,754 Speaker 2: quite like a wealthy family. His family was like his 539 00:21:16,834 --> 00:21:19,474 Speaker 2: sister's an actor too, Like they're very much in the 540 00:21:19,674 --> 00:21:22,114 Speaker 2: arts in that world. And at the same time, he's 541 00:21:22,114 --> 00:21:24,474 Speaker 2: also a straight, white, able bodied man, like he has 542 00:21:24,514 --> 00:21:26,074 Speaker 2: everything going for him. 543 00:21:26,394 --> 00:21:27,154 Speaker 4: He's talent it. 544 00:21:27,274 --> 00:21:30,114 Speaker 5: Yeah, but I think there are those that nuance to it, 545 00:21:30,154 --> 00:21:33,034 Speaker 5: which I'm sure if you asked him again, he would 546 00:21:33,074 --> 00:21:34,914 Speaker 5: like caveat some of that exactly. 547 00:21:34,954 --> 00:21:36,434 Speaker 2: I do wander if he's just and maybe I'm just 548 00:21:36,514 --> 00:21:37,954 Speaker 2: kind of like reading into what I want to see, 549 00:21:37,994 --> 00:21:40,353 Speaker 2: But I'm sort of thinking he's talking about him and 550 00:21:40,354 --> 00:21:43,874 Speaker 2: he's like cohorts of like other white young actors who 551 00:21:43,874 --> 00:21:45,874 Speaker 2: are all in that because they're all going in for 552 00:21:45,874 --> 00:21:47,674 Speaker 2: the same roles, they're all getting nominated in the same 553 00:21:47,714 --> 00:21:49,994 Speaker 2: kind of fields or all playing in that space. So 554 00:21:50,074 --> 00:21:51,793 Speaker 2: I kind of thought that when he talked about how 555 00:21:51,834 --> 00:21:53,914 Speaker 2: much work he puts into his roles and everything, kind 556 00:21:53,914 --> 00:21:56,834 Speaker 2: of like it was a stab them, not like the 557 00:21:56,914 --> 00:21:59,434 Speaker 2: kind of wider industry. But also people don't like when 558 00:21:59,514 --> 00:22:00,234 Speaker 2: people say. 559 00:22:00,034 --> 00:22:01,554 Speaker 4: Like I'm talented and I work hard. 560 00:22:01,794 --> 00:22:03,793 Speaker 2: No, it's one of those things that like you're not 561 00:22:03,834 --> 00:22:05,514 Speaker 2: supposed to say it, Like a lot of That's why 562 00:22:05,514 --> 00:22:06,914 Speaker 2: a lot of actors are like when they asked about 563 00:22:06,954 --> 00:22:08,354 Speaker 2: how they do this or that, they're like, I just 564 00:22:08,354 --> 00:22:10,234 Speaker 2: fell into it, And I just don't know if you 565 00:22:10,274 --> 00:22:12,954 Speaker 2: can fall into being like a blockbuster actor. 566 00:22:12,954 --> 00:22:13,714 Speaker 3: I'm still waiting. 567 00:22:13,794 --> 00:22:14,553 Speaker 4: I just like I don't know. 568 00:22:14,914 --> 00:22:17,114 Speaker 2: Always always say they fall into stuff. I just don't 569 00:22:17,154 --> 00:22:19,154 Speaker 2: know how that happens. And I also think people don't 570 00:22:19,274 --> 00:22:23,594 Speaker 2: like the hard work thing, Like they don't like that 571 00:22:23,674 --> 00:22:28,234 Speaker 2: as a explanation of why something works. I'm not comparing 572 00:22:28,234 --> 00:22:31,874 Speaker 2: myself to me shall I'm also a bit of a 573 00:22:31,914 --> 00:22:33,434 Speaker 2: try hard And when he's like I was a kid 574 00:22:33,514 --> 00:22:35,474 Speaker 2: up on stage in school putting in the effort, I'm like, 575 00:22:35,514 --> 00:22:38,074 Speaker 2: oh my, I was too. It's so embarrassing. But like, 576 00:22:38,474 --> 00:22:40,234 Speaker 2: once you're a try hard, you're always a try hard. 577 00:22:40,234 --> 00:22:41,674 Speaker 2: And I really relate to that. But I find that 578 00:22:41,794 --> 00:22:43,994 Speaker 2: like whenever people ask I don't know if you had this, 579 00:22:44,154 --> 00:22:46,154 Speaker 2: like with your job, and like you're like being a 580 00:22:46,154 --> 00:22:48,754 Speaker 2: personality and influencer, if people ask you how you got there, 581 00:22:48,754 --> 00:22:50,754 Speaker 2: I'm sure a lot of people would say like, oh, 582 00:22:50,794 --> 00:22:52,034 Speaker 2: like expect you to say like, oh. 583 00:22:51,914 --> 00:22:53,194 Speaker 4: I just fell into it. I just did there. 584 00:22:53,274 --> 00:22:56,714 Speaker 3: I think I have it worked really hard. I'm so brave. 585 00:22:56,794 --> 00:22:59,154 Speaker 3: I was on Love Island, but like. 586 00:22:59,234 --> 00:23:02,074 Speaker 2: Not everyone who grows on Love Island then builds a 587 00:23:02,154 --> 00:23:02,954 Speaker 2: career off the bat. 588 00:23:03,354 --> 00:23:05,634 Speaker 3: That is true, I'm telling myself, sure, yeah, But the. 589 00:23:05,594 --> 00:23:07,234 Speaker 2: Thing is I thinking you would say that because you 590 00:23:07,074 --> 00:23:09,553 Speaker 2: know you're not supposed to. And I feel like sometimes 591 00:23:09,554 --> 00:23:11,434 Speaker 2: when people ask you a question about your job and 592 00:23:11,474 --> 00:23:13,874 Speaker 2: you give the hard work answer, I just want that 593 00:23:13,914 --> 00:23:16,594 Speaker 2: people's eyes kind of glaze over one because they're annoyed 594 00:23:16,834 --> 00:23:19,074 Speaker 2: or because they think it's not quite true. Like when 595 00:23:19,074 --> 00:23:21,114 Speaker 2: people say like how do you know this much stuff 596 00:23:21,114 --> 00:23:22,273 Speaker 2: for the pod? And how do you put up that 597 00:23:22,274 --> 00:23:24,194 Speaker 2: many episodes? And like how did you know this? I'm 598 00:23:24,234 --> 00:23:26,154 Speaker 2: just like the boring answer is like I just did 599 00:23:26,234 --> 00:23:29,273 Speaker 2: four hours of work before we started. Like sometimes the 600 00:23:29,274 --> 00:23:31,154 Speaker 2: boring answer is like I just read the interview and 601 00:23:31,154 --> 00:23:32,594 Speaker 2: then I went in fact checked it all. When people 602 00:23:32,674 --> 00:23:35,114 Speaker 2: say like how did you ask those questions and get 603 00:23:35,194 --> 00:23:37,154 Speaker 2: like that viral interview moment and get the sled to 604 00:23:37,194 --> 00:23:39,154 Speaker 2: share it, and I was like, there's no trick. I 605 00:23:39,234 --> 00:23:41,994 Speaker 2: just like six hours of work for a five minute interview. 606 00:23:42,034 --> 00:23:42,354 Speaker 2: I don't have. 607 00:23:42,394 --> 00:23:44,954 Speaker 5: People are jealous because they don't have maybe like that 608 00:23:45,034 --> 00:23:45,674 Speaker 5: worth ethic. 609 00:23:45,714 --> 00:23:47,914 Speaker 3: They're like, it must just come to you. It doesn't 610 00:23:47,914 --> 00:23:49,914 Speaker 3: come to me. That's why I can't do what you do. 611 00:23:50,394 --> 00:23:52,914 Speaker 3: But the truth is you're working hard and you're talented. 612 00:23:53,554 --> 00:23:54,314 Speaker 3: So that's how you get. 613 00:23:54,354 --> 00:23:56,434 Speaker 2: No one wants to hear them me, Kim Kadashian, no 614 00:23:56,514 --> 00:23:57,234 Speaker 2: wants to work anymore. 615 00:23:57,234 --> 00:23:58,834 Speaker 4: No one wants to hear that. Like I think, people 616 00:23:58,954 --> 00:24:02,594 Speaker 4: always work. People always looking for a shortcut, know I find. 617 00:24:02,674 --> 00:24:04,273 Speaker 2: And so when you say, like, oh, I just had 618 00:24:04,314 --> 00:24:05,834 Speaker 2: to do like ten hours of work, like I think 619 00:24:05,834 --> 00:24:08,914 Speaker 2: with Timothy Shalamaine, people again not defending the poor rich 620 00:24:08,954 --> 00:24:10,914 Speaker 2: white man like I kind of am, but I think 621 00:24:10,914 --> 00:24:12,474 Speaker 2: people like, how did you like get this moment in 622 00:24:12,474 --> 00:24:14,034 Speaker 2: your career, and like they want him to tell like 623 00:24:14,074 --> 00:24:16,033 Speaker 2: a funny story or something like that, and he was like, 624 00:24:16,314 --> 00:24:18,754 Speaker 2: I just I've worked for five years to that one 625 00:24:18,834 --> 00:24:21,154 Speaker 2: scene and that's not kind of like a populate man. 626 00:24:21,234 --> 00:24:22,154 Speaker 3: He's converted me. 627 00:24:24,474 --> 00:24:26,714 Speaker 2: But I just think obviously he's getting away with it 628 00:24:26,754 --> 00:24:29,793 Speaker 2: a lot more because he's a man. Like that's the 629 00:24:29,834 --> 00:24:32,273 Speaker 2: boring answer, but it's also kind of true, like whenever 630 00:24:32,314 --> 00:24:35,874 Speaker 2: we've seen women kind of move in that space of 631 00:24:35,954 --> 00:24:39,034 Speaker 2: like letting us know that they're try hard, or letting 632 00:24:39,074 --> 00:24:41,074 Speaker 2: us know that they care too much, like an Anne 633 00:24:41,114 --> 00:24:44,513 Speaker 2: Hathaway or something, they get so brutally raped. 634 00:24:44,274 --> 00:24:47,314 Speaker 3: Over cold, self absorbed. 635 00:24:46,714 --> 00:24:49,634 Speaker 4: And then take themselves too seriously. 636 00:24:49,754 --> 00:24:51,674 Speaker 2: And I do think because he's like a young male 637 00:24:51,714 --> 00:24:54,474 Speaker 2: actor who's in these Oscar movies, he has like a 638 00:24:54,514 --> 00:24:57,513 Speaker 2: certain amount of leeway to behave this way. But I 639 00:24:57,594 --> 00:25:00,194 Speaker 2: also just think, like, and he says in this interview 640 00:25:00,234 --> 00:25:02,234 Speaker 2: as well, it's interesting He's like, sorry, I've got my 641 00:25:02,314 --> 00:25:04,314 Speaker 2: PR brain working, like I'm trying to think of how 642 00:25:04,314 --> 00:25:07,194 Speaker 2: to say it. So he's really aware that it's bad PR, 643 00:25:07,394 --> 00:25:08,514 Speaker 2: but it's like he just can't. 644 00:25:08,594 --> 00:25:09,634 Speaker 4: I'm sure his team. 645 00:25:09,474 --> 00:25:11,834 Speaker 3: Is owning it. Yeah, I say, what you mean, Yeah, 646 00:25:12,074 --> 00:25:12,794 Speaker 3: that's I think too. 647 00:25:12,994 --> 00:25:14,794 Speaker 4: I'm sure his team is telling him. 648 00:25:14,914 --> 00:25:16,234 Speaker 2: Like when I read that, I'm like, I feel like 649 00:25:16,274 --> 00:25:18,474 Speaker 2: his team is telling him to rein it in there 650 00:25:18,474 --> 00:25:20,834 Speaker 2: but a little bit. And they're just like, you're becoming 651 00:25:20,874 --> 00:25:23,313 Speaker 2: a bit unlikable. All the press around you at the 652 00:25:23,354 --> 00:25:25,954 Speaker 2: moment is like quite negative. Now that the pressure around 653 00:25:25,954 --> 00:25:28,033 Speaker 2: the movie then is negative because people are comparing you 654 00:25:28,114 --> 00:25:30,994 Speaker 2: to this character and everything. But I just think there's 655 00:25:30,994 --> 00:25:33,954 Speaker 2: something in him where he cannot lie. He cannot go 656 00:25:34,034 --> 00:25:37,234 Speaker 2: into an interview and not say I'm the greatest, I'm talented, 657 00:25:37,234 --> 00:25:38,194 Speaker 2: and I work the hardest. 658 00:25:38,234 --> 00:25:40,714 Speaker 5: Do you think it's women just getting angry a man 659 00:25:40,754 --> 00:25:42,554 Speaker 5: getting angry at this because I feel like it would 660 00:25:42,554 --> 00:25:44,354 Speaker 5: be like better received by men. 661 00:25:44,754 --> 00:25:47,034 Speaker 2: I think so because there is that like where men 662 00:25:47,114 --> 00:25:49,714 Speaker 2: can say they're the greatest a little bit more. And 663 00:25:49,794 --> 00:25:51,754 Speaker 2: I think maybe because like men in sports do that 664 00:25:51,834 --> 00:25:55,834 Speaker 2: a lot. I don't consent myself with the athlete mindset. Yeah, 665 00:25:55,834 --> 00:25:57,834 Speaker 2: he's kind of got the athlete mindset. So I think 666 00:25:57,914 --> 00:25:59,394 Speaker 2: men have taken it a little bit better. But I've 667 00:25:59,394 --> 00:26:01,234 Speaker 2: seen I've seen a lot of comments from men being 668 00:26:01,274 --> 00:26:05,434 Speaker 2: like this is embarrassing. Yeah, as much as women. I'm 669 00:26:05,474 --> 00:26:07,834 Speaker 2: kind of interested if it's gonna like hurt his Oscar 670 00:26:07,874 --> 00:26:10,513 Speaker 2: campaign or help it because Oscar voting is still open, 671 00:26:10,594 --> 00:26:13,554 Speaker 2: so all the people at the moment who are filling 672 00:26:13,594 --> 00:26:16,234 Speaker 2: in their balets and deciding, and it's kind of his 673 00:26:16,354 --> 00:26:18,354 Speaker 2: peers that are voting for him, like people who vote 674 00:26:18,394 --> 00:26:19,034 Speaker 2: in the acting. 675 00:26:19,434 --> 00:26:21,594 Speaker 3: He said works less hard than Yeahah. 676 00:26:21,554 --> 00:26:23,513 Speaker 2: But It's interesting because I don't know which way or 677 00:26:23,554 --> 00:26:26,514 Speaker 2: go because because the Oscars are voted by people, like, 678 00:26:26,754 --> 00:26:28,833 Speaker 2: they're not robots, like they often just like they can 679 00:26:28,874 --> 00:26:31,474 Speaker 2: be swayed by things as much as everyone else. And 680 00:26:31,554 --> 00:26:35,313 Speaker 2: so I think sometimes they can sometimes like punish or 681 00:26:35,354 --> 00:26:37,474 Speaker 2: reward people for how they behave, and we've seen that 682 00:26:37,474 --> 00:26:39,434 Speaker 2: happen with people who have a really good Oscar run 683 00:26:39,634 --> 00:26:42,434 Speaker 2: and have a really good story. And like Adam Sandler 684 00:26:42,474 --> 00:26:44,394 Speaker 2: said the other day that one of the reasons he 685 00:26:44,434 --> 00:26:46,674 Speaker 2: hasn't got an Oscar nomination even though he should have 686 00:26:46,714 --> 00:26:48,394 Speaker 2: been nominated a few times, is that he's just not 687 00:26:48,434 --> 00:26:51,074 Speaker 2: good at ask kissing the academy. And he's in a 688 00:26:51,154 --> 00:26:53,634 Speaker 2: nice way because he's Adam Sandler and he's lovely. He's 689 00:26:53,634 --> 00:26:55,634 Speaker 2: like conng to everyone who nominated. You're better at ask 690 00:26:55,674 --> 00:26:56,313 Speaker 2: kissing him than me. 691 00:26:56,794 --> 00:26:57,394 Speaker 4: And it's true. 692 00:26:57,394 --> 00:26:59,314 Speaker 2: You've got to go into those rooms and like woo 693 00:26:59,354 --> 00:27:02,394 Speaker 2: the campaign and woo the voters and stuff. So I'm 694 00:27:02,434 --> 00:27:05,314 Speaker 2: interested to see how this works for Timothy because it's 695 00:27:05,314 --> 00:27:08,314 Speaker 2: so close between him and Leonardo deka Cario and Leonardo 696 00:27:08,314 --> 00:27:10,954 Speaker 2: DiCaprio is really playing the game of. 697 00:27:10,914 --> 00:27:13,514 Speaker 3: Like he's been around, Yeah, exactly, he's. 698 00:27:13,434 --> 00:27:15,273 Speaker 2: Got Lenando DiCaprio from what I've seen at the pre 699 00:27:15,354 --> 00:27:17,594 Speaker 2: Oscar e vans, like he's going into the rooms, he's 700 00:27:17,634 --> 00:27:20,033 Speaker 2: being very humble, he's talking a lot. He's talking up 701 00:27:20,034 --> 00:27:22,314 Speaker 2: his co stars, he's talking up the industry, he's talking 702 00:27:22,394 --> 00:27:25,154 Speaker 2: up the Academy, like very quietly, but he's very much like, 703 00:27:25,514 --> 00:27:27,754 Speaker 2: I'm a serious actor, and I really I love being 704 00:27:27,754 --> 00:27:31,194 Speaker 2: here and I really respect this process. Yeah, and then 705 00:27:31,234 --> 00:27:33,834 Speaker 2: you've got Timothy being like, I'm pretty sure I'm going 706 00:27:33,874 --> 00:27:35,834 Speaker 2: to win an Oscar, which is what he's said recently. 707 00:27:35,954 --> 00:27:37,154 Speaker 3: Yeah, but also where's the lie? 708 00:27:37,154 --> 00:27:38,354 Speaker 4: He probably he's gonna win an Oscar. 709 00:27:38,434 --> 00:27:39,194 Speaker 3: I think he's going to. 710 00:27:39,554 --> 00:27:41,394 Speaker 2: And then I think he is true, but I want 711 00:27:41,434 --> 00:27:43,714 Speaker 2: But then also talking up like I'm the greatest, I'm 712 00:27:43,714 --> 00:27:46,914 Speaker 2: this and I'm that. And because the Academy traditionally doesn't 713 00:27:46,994 --> 00:27:50,074 Speaker 2: give oscars two men in their thirties, like they usually 714 00:27:50,074 --> 00:27:51,793 Speaker 2: wait for them to get it statistically, wait for them 715 00:27:51,834 --> 00:27:53,234 Speaker 2: to get a bit older and give it to them 716 00:27:53,594 --> 00:27:56,354 Speaker 2: when they're kind of like midway through their career, like fifty, 717 00:27:56,394 --> 00:27:59,754 Speaker 2: as a kind of like reward for their entire career, 718 00:27:59,994 --> 00:28:01,634 Speaker 2: and they give it to women while they're really young 719 00:28:01,714 --> 00:28:03,274 Speaker 2: so that they can be like, let that pretty girl 720 00:28:03,274 --> 00:28:05,874 Speaker 2: get up on stage. So I wonder if like that's 721 00:28:05,914 --> 00:28:07,754 Speaker 2: going to work against him of that he so young, 722 00:28:07,794 --> 00:28:10,994 Speaker 2: and he's also down talking in a way that might. 723 00:28:10,794 --> 00:28:13,794 Speaker 4: Put voters off. And I'm really interested to see how 724 00:28:13,874 --> 00:28:14,434 Speaker 4: that's going to go. 725 00:28:14,594 --> 00:28:16,754 Speaker 5: I even wonder, because they're in the industry, if they'll 726 00:28:16,754 --> 00:28:20,073 Speaker 5: find it they can relate to it, like they'll think, well, 727 00:28:20,194 --> 00:28:22,514 Speaker 5: I know how hard I know how hard that would be. 728 00:28:22,394 --> 00:28:24,234 Speaker 3: To get there. Yeah, I've been through it. 729 00:28:24,354 --> 00:28:27,354 Speaker 5: I've seen it in the industry, and maybe that will 730 00:28:27,354 --> 00:28:30,234 Speaker 5: be you know, his point of difference that he's acknowledging it. 731 00:28:30,554 --> 00:28:32,034 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think it's possible that he's going to 732 00:28:32,074 --> 00:28:34,994 Speaker 2: win the Oscar and it's all he's wanted. I mean, 733 00:28:34,994 --> 00:28:36,874 Speaker 2: I know a lot of actors that's all they want 734 00:28:36,914 --> 00:28:38,434 Speaker 2: is to win the Oscar. But for him, it's like 735 00:28:38,714 --> 00:28:41,674 Speaker 2: almost like a mannic, very competitive. It's this thing, and 736 00:28:41,714 --> 00:28:43,594 Speaker 2: I wonder if he'll just like his body will just 737 00:28:43,594 --> 00:28:45,994 Speaker 2: go into shock when it happens, because when you want 738 00:28:45,994 --> 00:28:47,954 Speaker 2: something so much that it happens, and they. 739 00:28:47,834 --> 00:28:50,114 Speaker 5: Can never admit wanting something so much, it makes me 740 00:28:50,194 --> 00:28:52,074 Speaker 5: ner about how much he's, like I want that. 741 00:28:51,994 --> 00:28:53,434 Speaker 2: And what does he do then I get go win 742 00:28:53,474 --> 00:28:55,474 Speaker 2: ten Oscars, Like I guess he just wants to beat 743 00:28:55,514 --> 00:28:57,514 Speaker 2: Meryl Street. But yeah, I do worry for a boy 744 00:28:57,514 --> 00:28:59,354 Speaker 2: in that moment, Like I just hope someone is like 745 00:28:59,354 --> 00:29:01,554 Speaker 2: I hope Kylie Jenner is like prepared to push him 746 00:29:01,634 --> 00:29:03,114 Speaker 2: up on stage, so they do think he might just 747 00:29:03,114 --> 00:29:05,354 Speaker 2: go with a shock. But anyway, people are hating on 748 00:29:05,434 --> 00:29:07,554 Speaker 2: him this week, and I just think, at the end 749 00:29:07,594 --> 00:29:09,594 Speaker 2: of the day, just let the boy say what he 750 00:29:09,674 --> 00:29:14,194 Speaker 2: means to say, say, let people, let people be Tryhard's. 751 00:29:14,234 --> 00:29:15,594 Speaker 4: I think that's sort of taken away from this. 752 00:29:16,354 --> 00:29:18,314 Speaker 3: Thanks so much for listening to The Spill today. 753 00:29:18,394 --> 00:29:20,474 Speaker 5: If you want more, head on over to the YouTube 754 00:29:20,514 --> 00:29:23,674 Speaker 5: channel for exclusive behind the scenes content link in the 755 00:29:23,674 --> 00:29:26,754 Speaker 5: show notes, and Morning Tea drops a new episode Monday 756 00:29:26,794 --> 00:29:29,634 Speaker 5: to Thursday to keep you up to speed on all celebrity. 757 00:29:29,194 --> 00:29:31,394 Speaker 3: Headlines before you get into work. 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