1 00:00:09,684 --> 00:00:12,504 Speaker 1: A deep puff in the morning, I feel like it 2 00:00:12,504 --> 00:00:15,744 Speaker 1: is heaven sent because as much as I love an 3 00:00:15,744 --> 00:00:18,564 Speaker 1: eye serum or an eye cream, I feel like there's 4 00:00:18,564 --> 00:00:20,944 Speaker 1: only so much I can do with a product to 5 00:00:20,944 --> 00:00:26,544 Speaker 1: get the puffiness down really quickly. Makeup is my therapy. 6 00:00:27,535 --> 00:00:30,455 Speaker 2: I'm obsessed and I don't even feel guilty about it. 7 00:00:32,994 --> 00:00:36,054 Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to You Beauty, the daily podcast for 8 00:00:36,054 --> 00:00:39,535 Speaker 2: your face. I'm Erin Doherty and welcome to the formula. 9 00:00:39,775 --> 00:00:42,854 Speaker 2: You have such beautiful skin, but how? 10 00:00:44,865 --> 00:00:47,385 Speaker 2: Every week I sit down with celebs and some of 11 00:00:47,385 --> 00:00:49,905 Speaker 2: the biggest names in beauty and take a look into 12 00:00:49,905 --> 00:00:53,905 Speaker 2: their skincare routines. Today, I'm sitting down with none other 13 00:00:53,905 --> 00:00:57,214 Speaker 2: than Sally McMullin. You might already know Sally and her 14 00:00:57,214 --> 00:01:01,005 Speaker 2: partner in crime from their hit show Two Broke Chicks, 15 00:01:01,185 --> 00:01:04,385 Speaker 2: where they dish out savvy, money saving tips and life 16 00:01:04,385 --> 00:01:06,624 Speaker 2: hacks with infectious energy. 17 00:01:06,874 --> 00:01:09,784 Speaker 1: It's online shopping night and our inboxes and fees are 18 00:01:09,784 --> 00:01:10,345 Speaker 1: literally jam. 19 00:01:10,464 --> 00:01:12,615 Speaker 1: I'm packed with sales at the moment, so we've put 20 00:01:12,615 --> 00:01:14,364 Speaker 1: together a list of some of the best deals that 21 00:01:14,364 --> 00:01:16,254 Speaker 1: we've seen so far, so you can browse them all 22 00:01:16,254 --> 00:01:17,285 Speaker 1: in one place. 23 00:01:17,614 --> 00:01:19,444 Speaker 2: Here are the sale events for the rest of the 24 00:01:19,444 --> 00:01:21,934 Speaker 2: year that you can get your Christmas shopping done with 25 00:01:21,934 --> 00:01:25,775 Speaker 2: heaps of savings and also maybe get yourself a little something. Tricky. 26 00:01:25,904 --> 00:01:28,325 Speaker 2: Why not? By the way, if you're new here toro 27 00:01:28,325 --> 00:01:30,855 Speaker 2: chicks and we share life lessons, money tips, and shopping 28 00:01:30,855 --> 00:01:33,474 Speaker 2: tips for your twenties or any age. They've even just 29 00:01:33,474 --> 00:01:35,535 Speaker 2: written a book together. We'll pop a link in the 30 00:01:35,535 --> 00:01:36,054 Speaker 2: show notes. 31 00:01:36,544 --> 00:01:40,535 Speaker 2: But today, we're turning the spotlight on Sally's radiant complexion. 32 00:01:40,745 --> 00:01:44,575 Speaker 2: Despite her jam-packed schedule of content creation, writing a book, 33 00:01:44,745 --> 00:01:48,035 Speaker 2: and producing a podcast, Sally manages to keep her skin 34 00:01:48,035 --> 00:01:51,855 Speaker 2: looking plump, glowing, and gorgeous. Join us as we take 35 00:01:51,855 --> 00:01:54,984 Speaker 2: a little peek into her skincare cabinet and find out 36 00:01:54,984 --> 00:01:55,355 Speaker 2: all the 37 00:01:55,404 --> 00:01:58,635 Speaker 2: products she uses to keep her skin looking flawless even 38 00:01:58,635 --> 00:02:02,434 Speaker 2: amidst her hectic lifestyle. Sal, we can't wait to chat 39 00:02:02,434 --> 00:02:05,114 Speaker 2: with you. You're here, you're glowing, and I want to 40 00:02:05,114 --> 00:02:08,434 Speaker 2: know all about what's in your skincare cabinet. But before 41 00:02:08,434 --> 00:02:11,434 Speaker 2: we get into that, I want you to describe your 42 00:02:11,434 --> 00:02:14,275 Speaker 2: skincare routine for me in 3 words. 43 00:02:14,775 --> 00:02:23,174 Speaker 1: I would say, simple, ritual, and evolving. Yes, because I 44 00:02:23,174 --> 00:02:26,495 Speaker 1: feel like in the sort of job that Alex and 45 00:02:26,495 --> 00:02:28,894 Speaker 1: I are in, and that you're in as well, we're 46 00:02:28,894 --> 00:02:31,694 Speaker 1: always getting exposed to new and different products, which is 47 00:02:31,694 --> 00:02:32,495 Speaker 1: so great. 48 00:02:32,924 --> 00:02:35,665 Speaker 1: And I definitely have my staples, but I'm not afraid 49 00:02:35,665 --> 00:02:38,064 Speaker 1: to try something new. So I feel like I try 50 00:02:38,064 --> 00:02:40,665 Speaker 1: to stick to maybe the same ingredients that I know 51 00:02:40,665 --> 00:02:43,974 Speaker 1: work with my skin, but the products are often evolving. 52 00:02:44,424 --> 00:02:46,015 Speaker 1: But I do like to keep it simple. 53 00:02:46,144 --> 00:02:48,304 Speaker 2: I love that. I love that. I mean, as someone 54 00:02:48,304 --> 00:02:51,304 Speaker 2: who's in the industry, like, I feel like you're always 55 00:02:51,304 --> 00:02:54,304 Speaker 2: learning as well, and especially when there's so many new 56 00:02:54,304 --> 00:02:57,015 Speaker 2: formulations and new products, you know, you gotta keep going 57 00:02:57,015 --> 00:02:59,474 Speaker 2: with it. Tell me, what kind of skin do you have? 58 00:03:00,084 --> 00:03:05,125 Speaker 1: So my skin is on the dry side, sadly. And then, 59 00:03:05,685 --> 00:03:08,644 Speaker 1: which is sad for me, but then she can also 60 00:03:08,644 --> 00:03:11,155 Speaker 1: be a bit of a sensitive Sally as well. 61 00:03:11,295 --> 00:03:11,804 Speaker 2: We have the 62 00:03:11,804 --> 00:03:12,804 Speaker 2: same skin, I think. 63 00:03:12,915 --> 00:03:14,405 Speaker 1: Oh my God. Tell me more. 64 00:03:14,564 --> 00:03:15,004 Speaker 2: Luckily, 65 00:03:15,045 --> 00:03:17,965 Speaker 1: it means that I don't really get too many issues 66 00:03:17,965 --> 00:03:20,685 Speaker 1: with acne or anything like that, but I do get 67 00:03:20,685 --> 00:03:25,694 Speaker 1: hormonal breakouts. So definitely that has evolved throughout the years, 68 00:03:25,795 --> 00:03:27,965 Speaker 1: you know? And I feel like I'm going through a 69 00:03:27,965 --> 00:03:28,724 Speaker 1: bit of a rough patch. 70 00:03:29,155 --> 00:03:31,515 Speaker 1: With my skin, with the hormonal breakouts. I don't know, 71 00:03:31,554 --> 00:03:32,915 Speaker 1: in the last year. I 72 00:03:32,915 --> 00:03:34,814 Speaker 2: feel like your skin looks great. 73 00:03:35,135 --> 00:03:35,644 Speaker 1: Thank you. 74 00:03:36,275 --> 00:03:39,474 Speaker 2: But I totally get that. I also struggle with hormonal 75 00:03:39,474 --> 00:03:42,875 Speaker 2: breakouts and dry skin. Tell me, what is it the 76 00:03:42,875 --> 00:03:46,754 Speaker 2: best skincare tip that you've learned along the way, just 77 00:03:46,754 --> 00:03:48,795 Speaker 2: before I start raiding your skincare cabinet? 78 00:03:48,915 --> 00:03:52,474 Speaker 1: Yeah, sure. I think that the best tip is to 79 00:03:52,474 --> 00:03:56,435 Speaker 1: go see a dermatologist because I was trying so many 80 00:03:56,435 --> 00:03:57,665 Speaker 1: different products and 81 00:03:57,715 --> 00:04:00,584 Speaker 1: And having like a few different flare-ups and things, mainly 82 00:04:00,584 --> 00:04:04,215 Speaker 1: when I was using some more harsh and hectic chemicals 83 00:04:04,215 --> 00:04:07,985 Speaker 1: that I was, you know, seeing trending, your glycolic acids 84 00:04:07,985 --> 00:04:10,754 Speaker 1: and retinol and stuff like that. And I was like, 85 00:04:10,825 --> 00:04:12,745 Speaker 1: but this is supposed to work. And 86 00:04:12,745 --> 00:04:13,504 Speaker 2: on Instagram. 87 00:04:14,745 --> 00:04:16,905 Speaker 1: Exactly. And then I went to a dermatologist and they 88 00:04:16,905 --> 00:04:20,015 Speaker 1: were like, You do not need to use any of this. 89 00:04:20,265 --> 00:04:24,025 Speaker 1: Apparently was like over exfoliating as well. And she was like, Yeah, 90 00:04:24,125 --> 00:04:25,985 Speaker 1: if you're on the dry side, you don't need to 91 00:04:25,985 --> 00:04:26,504 Speaker 1: be doing this. 92 00:04:27,015 --> 00:04:29,404 Speaker 1: She was like, for you, I would do like, maybe 93 00:04:29,404 --> 00:04:32,295 Speaker 1: once or twice a week, not every single day. And 94 00:04:32,295 --> 00:04:35,055 Speaker 1: I was like, Oh. So I'd be like going to 95 00:04:35,055 --> 00:04:39,214 Speaker 1: speak to an expert really helped me understand what I 96 00:04:39,214 --> 00:04:41,135 Speaker 1: need for my skin, and then I can narrow it 97 00:04:41,135 --> 00:04:43,024 Speaker 1: down from there. Otherwise, I really was being like, Oh, 98 00:04:43,135 --> 00:04:45,374 Speaker 1: I'll try this, I'll try that, and trying all the 99 00:04:45,374 --> 00:04:47,855 Speaker 1: products and techniques, and I think that's the easier way 100 00:04:47,855 --> 00:04:48,575 Speaker 1: to go. That's 101 00:04:48,575 --> 00:04:51,045 Speaker 2: the best advice. There's just so much out there and 102 00:04:51,045 --> 00:04:52,805 Speaker 2: you do want to try it all. It looks so 103 00:04:52,805 --> 00:04:55,415 Speaker 2: pretty and fun and everyone's like, This is great. 104 00:04:55,694 --> 00:04:57,825 Speaker 2: But then when it comes down to it, you know, 105 00:04:58,265 --> 00:05:02,064 Speaker 2: everything's not right. Yeah, I know. Alright, let's get into 106 00:05:02,064 --> 00:05:04,654 Speaker 2: the good stuff. I want you to walk me through 107 00:05:04,654 --> 00:05:08,545 Speaker 2: your AM and PM skincare routine, including the brands and 108 00:05:08,545 --> 00:05:09,874 Speaker 2: products that you like to use. 109 00:05:11,464 --> 00:05:14,925 Speaker 2: Honey, what is your self-care routine? Give us the dirty details. 110 00:05:17,105 --> 00:05:21,105 Speaker 1: In the morning, this may be controversial, but I don't 111 00:05:21,344 --> 00:05:24,425 Speaker 1: cleanse my face with any products. I just use water. 112 00:05:24,585 --> 00:05:26,585 Speaker 2: OK, me too, I love it. I love when I 113 00:05:26,585 --> 00:05:29,205 Speaker 2: meet someone else who does this. It's a dry skin thing. 114 00:05:29,904 --> 00:05:32,145 Speaker 1: I just don't think I'd need it because we'll get 115 00:05:32,145 --> 00:05:34,024 Speaker 1: to this later, but I do the double cleanse in 116 00:05:34,024 --> 00:05:36,865 Speaker 1: the evening and I just felt like when I was 117 00:05:36,865 --> 00:05:38,555 Speaker 1: using a product on my skin. 118 00:05:39,145 --> 00:05:42,055 Speaker 1: It would just look a little bit dull and dry 119 00:05:42,055 --> 00:05:44,765 Speaker 1: and a bit more irritated. And then when I stuck 120 00:05:44,765 --> 00:05:46,985 Speaker 1: to water, I was like, No, I think this is enough. 121 00:05:47,064 --> 00:05:50,464 Speaker 2: Yeah, especially when you think about, again, like it depends 122 00:05:50,464 --> 00:05:52,504 Speaker 2: on your skin type, but when you're kind of put 123 00:05:52,504 --> 00:05:54,545 Speaker 2: on like a sleeping mask when you put on some 124 00:05:54,545 --> 00:05:57,455 Speaker 2: like heavier, thicker creams and they're doing the work overnight, 125 00:05:57,504 --> 00:05:59,024 Speaker 2: in the morning, you go to like 126 00:05:59,075 --> 00:06:01,224 Speaker 2: Cleanse your face and you're literally just like, I'm just 127 00:06:01,224 --> 00:06:02,934 Speaker 2: cleansing off all of this nice product. 128 00:06:03,115 --> 00:06:05,784 Speaker 1: And I do love an overnight mask as well. So 129 00:06:05,784 --> 00:06:08,494 Speaker 1: maybe that's why I'm partial to that. But at the moment, 130 00:06:08,624 --> 00:06:11,265 Speaker 1: so I'll wash my face with water and then while 131 00:06:11,265 --> 00:06:13,464 Speaker 1: it's sort of still a little bit damp, I will 132 00:06:13,464 --> 00:06:16,865 Speaker 1: do either like sort of like a facial spritz of 133 00:06:16,865 --> 00:06:18,944 Speaker 1: some kind, whatever I've got. 134 00:06:19,244 --> 00:06:21,534 Speaker 1: And then I always go in with like a hyaluronic 135 00:06:21,534 --> 00:06:24,774 Speaker 1: acid serum. So at the moment I'm using the Ordinaries 136 00:06:24,774 --> 00:06:29,055 Speaker 1: one and it's like the newly formulated. I'm like it's 137 00:06:29,055 --> 00:06:32,765 Speaker 1: really good. Yeah. So that's really good. And then I've 138 00:06:32,765 --> 00:06:36,015 Speaker 1: paired that with the moisturizer that they've got. 139 00:06:36,099 --> 00:06:39,469 Speaker 1: That's the natural moisturizing factors, and that has hyaluronic acid 140 00:06:39,469 --> 00:06:42,189 Speaker 1: in it as well. So again, I feel like that 141 00:06:42,189 --> 00:06:45,330 Speaker 1: is super hydrating, but also it just soaks into your 142 00:06:45,330 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: skin like really quickly, which I love for a morning moisturizer. 143 00:06:49,490 --> 00:06:51,649 Speaker 1: You don't wanna mess around. Yeah, if they're too heavy 144 00:06:51,649 --> 00:06:52,890 Speaker 1: as well, I'm just like. 145 00:06:53,224 --> 00:06:54,814 Speaker 1: I feel like I have to wait forever for it 146 00:06:54,814 --> 00:06:56,774 Speaker 1: to sink in before I can do my makeup, and 147 00:06:56,774 --> 00:06:59,654 Speaker 1: whatever's quickest, I'll do that. The reason that I like 148 00:06:59,654 --> 00:07:02,575 Speaker 1: these as well is they're pretty simple to use. And 149 00:07:02,575 --> 00:07:05,015 Speaker 1: because my skin is quite sensitive, I just feel like 150 00:07:05,015 --> 00:07:06,605 Speaker 1: it's back to basics. 151 00:07:06,974 --> 00:07:07,145 Speaker 2: No. 152 00:07:07,724 --> 00:07:08,254 Speaker 1: Yeah, which 153 00:07:08,254 --> 00:07:11,534 Speaker 2: is good. Also, with the reformulated serum, I think a 154 00:07:11,534 --> 00:07:15,555 Speaker 2: lot of people were scared that the reformulation would kind 155 00:07:15,555 --> 00:07:15,974 Speaker 2: of rule. 156 00:07:16,365 --> 00:07:19,955 Speaker 2: their favorite serum. But it is a genuinely lovely serum, 157 00:07:19,964 --> 00:07:22,515 Speaker 2: and it is, I feel like it's obviously great for 158 00:07:22,515 --> 00:07:26,874 Speaker 2: a lot of different skin types. It's so hydrating, nourishing. 159 00:07:26,925 --> 00:07:29,885 Speaker 2: It makes your skin feel nice and calm and 160 00:07:29,885 --> 00:07:32,515 Speaker 1: soothe. And then I swear this isn't an ad for 161 00:07:32,515 --> 00:07:37,235 Speaker 1: the ordinary, but I also have been using their multi-peptide 162 00:07:37,235 --> 00:07:38,835 Speaker 1: eye serum as 163 00:07:38,885 --> 00:07:43,214 Speaker 1: As well. So I have very puffy bags under my 164 00:07:43,214 --> 00:07:44,915 Speaker 1: eyes in the morning. I feel like my skin is 165 00:07:44,915 --> 00:07:46,474 Speaker 1: quite puffy in the morning, and I feel like it 166 00:07:46,474 --> 00:07:49,944 Speaker 1: helps soothe that for me. Sometimes with an eye cream, 167 00:07:50,034 --> 00:07:52,865 Speaker 1: I also feel like that's a little bit too thick. 168 00:07:52,955 --> 00:07:54,994 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's supposed to be really lightweight and it's 169 00:07:54,994 --> 00:07:58,085 Speaker 1: really lightweight, which I feel like helps me deep puff, 170 00:07:58,235 --> 00:08:00,955 Speaker 1: but also sits under makeup really nicely. So that's why 171 00:08:00,955 --> 00:08:01,555 Speaker 1: I like that. 172 00:08:08,504 --> 00:08:11,105 Speaker 1: Of course you've got to have an SPF. So I 173 00:08:11,105 --> 00:08:14,985 Speaker 1: do use the ultraviolet ones, like I kind of like 174 00:08:14,985 --> 00:08:17,575 Speaker 1: cycle through all the different ones whenever I get on sale. 175 00:08:17,784 --> 00:08:19,504 Speaker 1: But I feel like with an SPF you can go 176 00:08:19,504 --> 00:08:22,175 Speaker 1: the more affordable route as long as it's SPF 177 00:08:22,175 --> 00:08:23,305 Speaker 2: 50 just 178 00:08:23,305 --> 00:08:24,265 Speaker 2: make sure it's on your face. 179 00:08:24,464 --> 00:08:28,254 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So while I do love ultraviolet personally, I 180 00:08:28,254 --> 00:08:28,585 Speaker 1: feel like it's. 181 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,689 Speaker 1: Sits really nicely on the skin and sits nice under makeup. 182 00:08:32,149 --> 00:08:33,510 Speaker 1: I just feel like as long as you've got an 183 00:08:33,510 --> 00:08:35,379 Speaker 1: SPF 50, it's, it's good. 184 00:08:36,149 --> 00:08:39,409 Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's your morning routine. So I love how 185 00:08:39,409 --> 00:08:42,990 Speaker 2: simple and effective it is. So tell me, evening routine, 186 00:08:43,519 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: about your evening routine. 187 00:08:44,750 --> 00:08:47,349 Speaker 1: OK, so I try to keep this pretty simple as well. 188 00:08:47,389 --> 00:08:48,909 Speaker 1: This is like my daily. 189 00:08:49,615 --> 00:08:52,615 Speaker 1: Routines, so I will mix it up with, like I said, 190 00:08:52,654 --> 00:08:55,375 Speaker 1: I love an overnight mask or I love sheet masks 191 00:08:55,375 --> 00:08:58,495 Speaker 1: as well, especially the gel consistency ones. 192 00:08:58,615 --> 00:08:59,255 Speaker 2: Have you got any 193 00:08:59,255 --> 00:09:00,454 Speaker 2: favorite type of masks? 194 00:09:00,474 --> 00:09:03,925 Speaker 1: I love the soap and glory one from Mecca. I 195 00:09:03,925 --> 00:09:05,415 Speaker 1: think that is so underrated. 196 00:09:05,615 --> 00:09:06,214 Speaker 2: I haven't 197 00:09:06,214 --> 00:09:08,065 Speaker 2: tried that, but someone else about that. 198 00:09:09,974 --> 00:09:10,134 Speaker 2: Yeah, 199 00:09:10,334 --> 00:09:13,295 Speaker 1: they're really, really nice and hydrating and I just love. 200 00:09:13,404 --> 00:09:16,824 Speaker 1: a gel mask over a paper mask. I'm a texture girly, 201 00:09:17,235 --> 00:09:19,755 Speaker 1: and the paper ones are just, they just don't feel 202 00:09:19,755 --> 00:09:21,255 Speaker 1: that nice on the skin, I don't think. 203 00:09:21,714 --> 00:09:21,964 Speaker 2: You know, 204 00:09:22,034 --> 00:09:22,784 Speaker 1: loops. 205 00:09:23,394 --> 00:09:25,834 Speaker 2: They do like a really cool gel kind of mask 206 00:09:25,834 --> 00:09:28,154 Speaker 2: as well that really sticks to your face. You look 207 00:09:28,154 --> 00:09:30,505 Speaker 2: like 10 times more scarier somehow. 208 00:09:30,574 --> 00:09:30,584 Speaker 1: But 209 00:09:30,584 --> 00:09:33,594 Speaker 2: it it it it works and it doesn't budge. 210 00:09:33,714 --> 00:09:37,274 Speaker 1: My go to. So I do a double cleanse because 211 00:09:37,274 --> 00:09:37,495 Speaker 1: every 212 00:09:37,545 --> 00:09:39,534 Speaker 1: Every day I'm wearing an SPF, but also most days 213 00:09:39,534 --> 00:09:42,855 Speaker 1: I'm wearing makeup as well. So I love to use 214 00:09:42,855 --> 00:09:46,894 Speaker 1: a balm cleanser first to really like melt away the makeup. 215 00:09:47,005 --> 00:09:52,565 Speaker 1: My absolute favorite is the Alpha H Melting Moments, I think, 216 00:09:53,255 --> 00:09:57,415 Speaker 1: which I think is $70. So all of the other 217 00:09:57,415 --> 00:09:59,514 Speaker 1: products I mentioned in my AM routine, all of the 218 00:09:59,514 --> 00:10:01,574 Speaker 1: ordinary ones are like between 2. 219 00:10:01,824 --> 00:10:04,834 Speaker 1: 5 and $40. So, you know, they sort of like 220 00:10:04,834 --> 00:10:07,954 Speaker 1: sit on a bit of a scale there. And then ultraviolet, 221 00:10:07,995 --> 00:10:09,824 Speaker 1: like we said, you know, was a little bit more expensive, 222 00:10:09,995 --> 00:10:12,394 Speaker 1: but definitely the Alpha H one is a splurge. 223 00:10:12,435 --> 00:10:12,795 Speaker 2: There are 224 00:10:12,795 --> 00:10:15,555 Speaker 2: so many great cleansing balms out there. I've tried a 225 00:10:15,555 --> 00:10:18,195 Speaker 2: whole bunch of them, but I do love that one too. 226 00:10:18,485 --> 00:10:19,675 Speaker 2: Why do you like it? Oh 227 00:10:19,675 --> 00:10:22,274 Speaker 1: my God, so many reasons. I feel like one, it 228 00:10:22,274 --> 00:10:26,235 Speaker 1: actually works. Like it really works to melt away the 229 00:10:26,235 --> 00:10:28,394 Speaker 1: makeup and the SPF. I feel like a lot of 230 00:10:28,394 --> 00:10:28,954 Speaker 1: the time. 231 00:10:29,274 --> 00:10:31,824 Speaker 1: I'll come out of the shower and my boyfriend's like, yeah, 232 00:10:31,904 --> 00:10:36,875 Speaker 1: you're not done. And it's like pandas. Yeah, exactly, and 233 00:10:36,875 --> 00:10:39,014 Speaker 1: I just feel like it gets the job done after 234 00:10:39,014 --> 00:10:41,784 Speaker 1: one cleanse, which is amazing. I don't have to like 235 00:10:41,784 --> 00:10:44,344 Speaker 1: go in with a face washer and like really scrub. 236 00:10:44,425 --> 00:10:46,185 Speaker 1: It's like nice and gentle on the skin. 237 00:10:46,464 --> 00:10:49,094 Speaker 1: It also feels amazing and is beautiful, and a little 238 00:10:49,094 --> 00:10:51,894 Speaker 1: bit goes a long way. So while it is $70 239 00:10:52,005 --> 00:10:53,974 Speaker 1: I do find that I don't have to use a 240 00:10:53,974 --> 00:10:56,974 Speaker 1: whole lot to wash my face, which is also really good. 241 00:10:57,175 --> 00:10:58,855 Speaker 1: And then I love to go in with like a 242 00:10:58,855 --> 00:11:01,615 Speaker 1: gel cleanser after that as well, just because a balmy 243 00:11:01,615 --> 00:11:03,534 Speaker 1: sort of cleanser does leave your skin feeling a little 244 00:11:03,534 --> 00:11:07,334 Speaker 1: bit waxy after almost. Leaves a bit of residue, so 245 00:11:07,334 --> 00:11:09,654 Speaker 1: I feel like I need either like a a foaming 246 00:11:09,654 --> 00:11:11,255 Speaker 1: or a gel cleanser or something to sort of like 247 00:11:11,255 --> 00:11:13,545 Speaker 1: cut away that and really get in and. 248 00:11:13,935 --> 00:11:15,685 Speaker 1: Get all the dirt out. So I do love that. 249 00:11:15,735 --> 00:11:18,724 Speaker 1: And at the moment, I'm using the Bondi Sands Everyday 250 00:11:18,724 --> 00:11:23,495 Speaker 1: Skincare gel cleanser because that was on sale at Chemist Warehouse. 251 00:11:23,644 --> 00:11:26,165 Speaker 1: And I've used it before and I actually really like it. 252 00:11:26,495 --> 00:11:29,724 Speaker 1: So the cleanser is 150 mLs. It's like a pretty, 253 00:11:29,735 --> 00:11:34,204 Speaker 1: pretty good size, and it's like $15. And I just, 254 00:11:34,375 --> 00:11:37,764 Speaker 1: I feel like it works really well. And with a cleanser, I, 255 00:11:37,815 --> 00:11:40,735 Speaker 1: with a gel cleanser specifically, I feel like I go 256 00:11:40,735 --> 00:11:42,795 Speaker 1: through them really quickly. Probably 257 00:11:42,995 --> 00:11:45,844 Speaker 1: Because my boyfriend also uses it. So there's 2 people 258 00:11:45,844 --> 00:11:48,784 Speaker 1: using it. That's probably why. And then after I get 259 00:11:48,784 --> 00:11:51,074 Speaker 1: out of the shower, usually I do like another little 260 00:11:51,074 --> 00:11:54,945 Speaker 1: spritz or something, and then I'll do like a vitamin C. 261 00:11:55,315 --> 00:11:59,995 Speaker 1: So I do like the Paula's Choice vitamin C, again, a, 262 00:12:00,355 --> 00:12:01,714 Speaker 1: a more pricey product. 263 00:12:01,954 --> 00:12:05,105 Speaker 2: Is this the first time that we've had someone not 264 00:12:05,105 --> 00:12:10,654 Speaker 2: mention ceutical Cerroli as a vitamin C? I feel like Cassie, producers, 265 00:12:10,875 --> 00:12:11,755 Speaker 2: producers nodding. 266 00:12:12,644 --> 00:12:15,724 Speaker 2: I have used, I know, it's so obviously so popular 267 00:12:15,724 --> 00:12:19,204 Speaker 2: but so spendy. The Paula's Choice vitamin C, I think 268 00:12:19,204 --> 00:12:24,284 Speaker 2: it's called Boost. I've used that before. Great product and 269 00:12:24,324 --> 00:12:26,605 Speaker 2: such a great alternative if you don't want to cough 270 00:12:26,605 --> 00:12:29,245 Speaker 2: up $233 for a vitamin. 271 00:12:30,195 --> 00:12:30,394 Speaker 2: And 272 00:12:30,394 --> 00:12:33,034 Speaker 1: I feel like it does the job. I really like it. 273 00:12:33,154 --> 00:12:36,394 Speaker 1: I love like pretty much all of Paula's Choice's products. 274 00:12:36,445 --> 00:12:40,115 Speaker 2: And that's a really similar formulation. It's got vitamin C 275 00:12:40,115 --> 00:12:42,165 Speaker 2: and I feel it's like it's got Ferulic as well. 276 00:12:43,875 --> 00:12:46,755 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I do love using that. And then I'll 277 00:12:46,755 --> 00:12:49,435 Speaker 1: go in with an eye cream. At the moment, I 278 00:12:49,435 --> 00:12:53,115 Speaker 1: am still using that, the ordinary one, yeah, the multi-peptide 279 00:12:53,115 --> 00:12:54,235 Speaker 1: one in the evening. 280 00:12:54,625 --> 00:12:57,185 Speaker 1: And then I'll do that same moisturizer that I use 281 00:12:57,185 --> 00:13:00,334 Speaker 1: in the morning, and then often pimple stickers. 282 00:13:01,144 --> 00:13:03,584 Speaker 2: What are your favorite pimple stickers? We were just talking 283 00:13:03,584 --> 00:13:06,904 Speaker 2: about them in the office. Someone's got a pimple that's 284 00:13:06,904 --> 00:13:09,824 Speaker 2: kind of erupting, but it's just not there yet, and 285 00:13:09,824 --> 00:13:12,505 Speaker 2: she's got a wedding on Saturday, and the discussion was 286 00:13:12,505 --> 00:13:13,384 Speaker 2: what what's 287 00:13:13,384 --> 00:13:13,545 Speaker 1: the 288 00:13:13,545 --> 00:13:14,134 Speaker 2: best. 289 00:13:14,545 --> 00:13:16,704 Speaker 1: There's, I feel like there's quite a few out there 290 00:13:16,704 --> 00:13:19,714 Speaker 1: that do the job. What's your go to? I love 291 00:13:19,714 --> 00:13:21,704 Speaker 1: the TBH skincare one. 292 00:13:22,055 --> 00:13:26,565 Speaker 1: Me too. They're really good. Also, Zit sticker is good 293 00:13:26,565 --> 00:13:28,974 Speaker 1: because they have a few different types. So I feel 294 00:13:28,974 --> 00:13:30,654 Speaker 1: like it depends on the type of pimple that you have, 295 00:13:30,695 --> 00:13:33,615 Speaker 1: so that's really good. And then I also got another 296 00:13:33,615 --> 00:13:39,334 Speaker 1: packet from Mighty Patch. Yeah, and they were $10. Yeah, 297 00:13:39,495 --> 00:13:42,574 Speaker 1: I hadn't like heard of it or used them before either. 298 00:13:43,065 --> 00:13:46,384 Speaker 1: Because I usually do use either Zit sticker or the 299 00:13:46,384 --> 00:13:52,105 Speaker 1: TBH ones, and it was, I think RRP is $13 300 00:13:52,144 --> 00:13:53,505 Speaker 1: but I got it for $10 because it was on 301 00:13:53,505 --> 00:13:56,714 Speaker 1: sale for $24 and that's the packaging. 302 00:13:56,824 --> 00:13:58,144 Speaker 2: Oh, I've actually 303 00:13:58,144 --> 00:13:59,055 Speaker 2: tried these before. 304 00:13:59,185 --> 00:14:01,784 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I had my period last week, so obviously 305 00:14:01,784 --> 00:14:04,464 Speaker 1: my skin was like, being a petulant teenager. 306 00:14:04,565 --> 00:14:08,195 Speaker 1: And I had so many just like angry pimples, and 307 00:14:08,195 --> 00:14:12,115 Speaker 1: they worked really well. That's yeah, like overnight really helped 308 00:14:12,115 --> 00:14:12,574 Speaker 1: suit them. 309 00:14:12,795 --> 00:14:15,514 Speaker 2: There's seriously nothing more satisfying than peeling it off the 310 00:14:15,514 --> 00:14:18,074 Speaker 2: next morning and being like, you are out of my 311 00:14:18,074 --> 00:14:18,545 Speaker 2: face now being like, 312 00:14:20,274 --> 00:14:24,074 Speaker 1: get out. Yeah, it's so gross and so satisfying. 313 00:14:24,834 --> 00:14:26,005 Speaker 2: I love that. 314 00:14:34,365 --> 00:14:38,985 Speaker 2: It, you've made one of the greatest discoveries of all time. Oh, miss. 315 00:14:39,195 --> 00:14:40,665 Speaker 2: Never again, never. 316 00:14:41,584 --> 00:14:44,445 Speaker 2: I want to know some of your hits and misses. 317 00:14:44,974 --> 00:14:49,245 Speaker 2: What kind of skincare technique or ingredient can't you live without? 318 00:14:49,894 --> 00:14:52,365 Speaker 2: And I wanna know the one that you don't bother with. 319 00:14:52,534 --> 00:14:56,574 Speaker 1: OK. So the technique that I can't live without that 320 00:14:56,574 --> 00:14:59,014 Speaker 1: I love is ice rolling. 321 00:14:59,415 --> 00:15:02,235 Speaker 1: A deep puff in the morning, whether it's with like 322 00:15:02,235 --> 00:15:06,115 Speaker 1: ice globes or an ice roller or spoons that you 323 00:15:06,115 --> 00:15:09,144 Speaker 1: put in the freezer, or the little like eye masks 324 00:15:09,144 --> 00:15:11,995 Speaker 1: that you can also put in the fridge. I love 325 00:15:11,995 --> 00:15:15,435 Speaker 1: those and I feel like it is heaven sent because 326 00:15:15,634 --> 00:15:17,925 Speaker 1: as much as I love like an eye serum or 327 00:15:17,925 --> 00:15:18,834 Speaker 1: an eye cream. 328 00:15:19,185 --> 00:15:21,394 Speaker 1: I feel like there's only so much I can do 329 00:15:21,394 --> 00:15:25,425 Speaker 1: with a product to get the puffiness down really quickly. 330 00:15:25,634 --> 00:15:28,394 Speaker 2: Do you have any kind of favorites? I know one 331 00:15:28,394 --> 00:15:31,435 Speaker 2: product that I really, really have wanted for ages is 332 00:15:31,435 --> 00:15:33,305 Speaker 2: the skinny Confidential roller. 333 00:15:33,634 --> 00:15:35,065 Speaker 1: Do you have it? No. 334 00:15:35,315 --> 00:15:38,474 Speaker 2: So that's like a face roller that you, I guess 335 00:15:38,474 --> 00:15:41,435 Speaker 2: you put in the fridge, or not freezer, but you 336 00:15:41,435 --> 00:15:42,305 Speaker 2: put it in the fridge and it. 337 00:15:42,485 --> 00:15:44,404 Speaker 2: Puffs your face in the morning. I always see it 338 00:15:44,404 --> 00:15:45,514 Speaker 2: everywhere and I really want 339 00:15:45,514 --> 00:15:45,675 Speaker 2: it. 340 00:15:45,824 --> 00:15:47,834 Speaker 1: Once I've got that, I feel like I'll know I've 341 00:15:47,834 --> 00:15:50,195 Speaker 1: made it and I'm an adult and I've got my 342 00:15:50,195 --> 00:15:54,435 Speaker 1: shit together. I've been using the Benefit ones, so they 343 00:15:54,435 --> 00:15:58,394 Speaker 1: have like the two globes and they have like like liquid. Yeah, 344 00:15:58,404 --> 00:16:00,755 Speaker 1: they've got blue liquid inside and then I just chuck 345 00:16:00,755 --> 00:16:03,985 Speaker 1: those in the fridge and oh, it's just heavenly. 346 00:16:04,195 --> 00:16:04,394 Speaker 2: So do 347 00:16:04,394 --> 00:16:05,755 Speaker 2: you follow any kind 348 00:16:06,305 --> 00:16:06,315 Speaker 2: Yeah, 349 00:16:07,954 --> 00:16:10,034 Speaker 1: I kind of just do my own thing, but I 350 00:16:10,034 --> 00:16:14,014 Speaker 1: literally will just sort of roll them underneath my eyes 351 00:16:14,014 --> 00:16:16,394 Speaker 1: and then sometimes I use them all over my face, 352 00:16:16,555 --> 00:16:18,915 Speaker 1: almost like a gusa in the morning just to help 353 00:16:18,915 --> 00:16:21,594 Speaker 1: like lift and depuff and also it's the best way 354 00:16:21,594 --> 00:16:24,745 Speaker 1: to wake up too cause I'm a snoozy little girl 355 00:16:24,745 --> 00:16:25,534 Speaker 1: in the morning. I, 356 00:16:25,594 --> 00:16:25,784 Speaker 2: I 357 00:16:25,784 --> 00:16:28,985 Speaker 2: get really puffy as well. I remember before I got married. 358 00:16:29,474 --> 00:16:32,915 Speaker 2: Last year, the makeup artist actually got all my bridesmaids 359 00:16:32,915 --> 00:16:35,675 Speaker 2: to do the ice. Like they put their face in 360 00:16:35,675 --> 00:16:37,995 Speaker 2: iced water. I feel like if you don't have any 361 00:16:37,995 --> 00:16:39,915 Speaker 2: of the tools, just get a bucket of ice water 362 00:16:39,915 --> 00:16:40,264 Speaker 2: and stick 363 00:16:40,264 --> 00:16:40,755 Speaker 2: your face in. 364 00:16:40,915 --> 00:16:42,764 Speaker 1: That's the thing, because I'm like, you don't need to 365 00:16:42,764 --> 00:16:44,594 Speaker 1: go out and buy the ice roller or the globes 366 00:16:44,594 --> 00:16:47,865 Speaker 1: or anything if you just grab some ice cubes or 367 00:16:47,865 --> 00:16:50,675 Speaker 1: the spoons, you can do it in a budget friendly way. 368 00:16:50,714 --> 00:16:51,795 Speaker 1: And I feel like it's such 369 00:16:51,839 --> 00:16:51,980 Speaker 1: Good. Yeah. 370 00:16:53,110 --> 00:16:56,709 Speaker 2: Yeah. So tell me, what is the skincare technique or 371 00:16:56,709 --> 00:16:59,750 Speaker 2: ingredient that you're just like, Nah, not a fan? Kind 372 00:16:59,750 --> 00:16:59,909 Speaker 2: of 373 00:16:59,909 --> 00:17:02,070 Speaker 1: like I mentioned earlier, but I just feel like I 374 00:17:02,070 --> 00:17:07,709 Speaker 1: experimented with some ingredients that were trending that just don't 375 00:17:07,709 --> 00:17:11,909 Speaker 1: work for my skin. So, for example, retinol, I find 376 00:17:11,909 --> 00:17:14,269 Speaker 1: just doesn't work well with my skin. 377 00:17:14,725 --> 00:17:18,984 Speaker 1: And also glycolic acid as well. So I did enjoy 378 00:17:18,984 --> 00:17:22,475 Speaker 1: using the, I think it's the Alpha H liquid gold, 379 00:17:23,065 --> 00:17:26,104 Speaker 1: but it took me a few months for me to 380 00:17:26,104 --> 00:17:29,975 Speaker 1: really see the benefit. That is too long for me, personally, 381 00:17:30,055 --> 00:17:32,975 Speaker 1: like to go through, I just had really hectic skin purge, 382 00:17:33,225 --> 00:17:35,734 Speaker 1: and I know that's a natural part of the process, 383 00:17:35,994 --> 00:17:37,624 Speaker 1: but I think it's supposed to last 6 weeks. 384 00:17:37,821 --> 00:17:40,272 Speaker 1: Mine was lasting for like 3 months. I was like, 385 00:17:40,281 --> 00:17:41,051 Speaker 1: this is too much. 386 00:17:41,222 --> 00:17:41,831 Speaker 2: It's so 387 00:17:41,831 --> 00:17:44,472 Speaker 2: hard when you see that everyone is raving about, like, 388 00:17:44,482 --> 00:17:47,681 Speaker 2: literally everyone, and that's a product that everyone raved about 389 00:17:47,681 --> 00:17:50,512 Speaker 2: the liquid golden still. A lot of people love it too. 390 00:17:50,681 --> 00:17:53,122 Speaker 1: It was good in the end, but again, I was 391 00:17:53,122 --> 00:17:57,522 Speaker 1: just like, I can't with this. Like, it's just too, it, yeah, 392 00:17:57,602 --> 00:17:59,522 Speaker 1: it was too much of a time investment for me, 393 00:17:59,632 --> 00:17:59,781 Speaker 1: I 394 00:17:59,781 --> 00:18:00,701 Speaker 2: think. And the 395 00:18:00,899 --> 00:18:01,488 Speaker 2: with retinol. 396 00:18:01,618 --> 00:18:05,149 Speaker 1: Yeah. I just feel like it's too harsh on my skin. 397 00:18:05,258 --> 00:18:07,378 Speaker 1: And when I was talking to the dermatologist, they were like, 398 00:18:07,468 --> 00:18:09,059 Speaker 1: You don't, if you don't want to use it, you 399 00:18:09,059 --> 00:18:11,059 Speaker 1: don't need to. What you're using now is sort of 400 00:18:11,059 --> 00:18:14,689 Speaker 1: like stripped back to basics and for you, for what 401 00:18:14,689 --> 00:18:16,848 Speaker 1: you want out of your skin and which is to 402 00:18:17,299 --> 00:18:19,638 Speaker 1: for it to look and feel more hydrated. She was like, 403 00:18:19,708 --> 00:18:20,728 Speaker 1: That's what you need. Well, 404 00:18:20,779 --> 00:18:22,848 Speaker 2: that's the best advice because you've got beautiful skin. 405 00:18:22,978 --> 00:18:22,988 Speaker 1: A. 406 00:18:23,765 --> 00:18:26,316 Speaker 2: Tell me, do you have any kind of regular treatments 407 00:18:26,316 --> 00:18:27,716 Speaker 2: or anything that you do? Do 408 00:18:27,716 --> 00:18:31,395 Speaker 1: you know what I actually love, which again is a 409 00:18:31,395 --> 00:18:35,905 Speaker 1: bit more of a bougie purchase, but is an LED mask. 410 00:18:36,675 --> 00:18:37,795 Speaker 2: So do you have an at home 411 00:18:37,795 --> 00:18:37,996 Speaker 2: one? 412 00:18:38,155 --> 00:18:41,915 Speaker 1: Yeah. So I've got the current body one. So yeah, 413 00:18:42,076 --> 00:18:45,675 Speaker 1: definitely an expensive purchase, but I think if you do 414 00:18:45,675 --> 00:18:46,675 Speaker 1: want to do that. 415 00:18:47,024 --> 00:18:50,715 Speaker 1: The cost of like outright buying an at-home mask versus 416 00:18:50,715 --> 00:18:54,114 Speaker 1: going into a spare and getting it done, you're obviously 417 00:18:54,114 --> 00:18:56,114 Speaker 1: gonna save money in the long run using your at 418 00:18:56,114 --> 00:18:58,274 Speaker 1: home mask. So that's why I was like, I'm happy 419 00:18:58,274 --> 00:19:01,104 Speaker 1: to to have this, yeah, have this splurge of a, 420 00:19:01,114 --> 00:19:04,475 Speaker 1: of a purchase. And because I really struggle to like 421 00:19:04,475 --> 00:19:07,075 Speaker 1: fit facials into my routine. 422 00:19:07,864 --> 00:19:09,545 Speaker 1: Which I know, I know some people who get them 423 00:19:09,545 --> 00:19:11,545 Speaker 1: done like every month, and I'm like, oh my God, 424 00:19:11,624 --> 00:19:14,345 Speaker 1: I wish, like, it's hard to schedule it in, and 425 00:19:14,345 --> 00:19:15,384 Speaker 1: it's expensive too. 426 00:19:15,614 --> 00:19:18,935 Speaker 2: Yeah. And unless you're consistent, you're never really gonna see 427 00:19:18,935 --> 00:19:21,585 Speaker 2: really good results if you're doing it once every maybe 428 00:19:21,585 --> 00:19:24,364 Speaker 2: 4 months, even though it, it always does feel great 429 00:19:24,364 --> 00:19:26,624 Speaker 2: before an event or if you have something on. But 430 00:19:26,624 --> 00:19:29,274 Speaker 2: if you're looking for those longer term results, you do 431 00:19:29,274 --> 00:19:31,534 Speaker 2: need to be consistent, obviously. So you've got, 432 00:19:32,024 --> 00:19:34,734 Speaker 1: yeah, build it into your routine, which I struggled with 433 00:19:34,734 --> 00:19:35,425 Speaker 1: at first. 434 00:19:35,734 --> 00:19:38,175 Speaker 1: And I'd have it stack. I'd read a chapter of 435 00:19:38,175 --> 00:19:40,854 Speaker 1: my book and do that and then mark it off. 436 00:19:40,935 --> 00:19:41,404 Speaker 1: And I was like, 437 00:19:41,415 --> 00:19:43,854 Speaker 2: love this. Yeah. And the current one's so good because 438 00:19:43,854 --> 00:19:45,815 Speaker 2: it kind of molds into your face so you can 439 00:19:45,815 --> 00:19:47,455 Speaker 2: walk around or do stuff. Yeah, 440 00:19:47,534 --> 00:19:50,185 Speaker 1: it's not like one of those ones that's the hard plastic. 441 00:19:50,695 --> 00:19:52,374 Speaker 1: You can lay down and read a book, or yeah, 442 00:19:52,455 --> 00:19:54,864 Speaker 1: you can walk around and it's got like, it doesn't 443 00:19:54,864 --> 00:19:57,565 Speaker 1: plug into the wall. It's got like a portable charger 444 00:19:57,565 --> 00:19:59,345 Speaker 1: with it. So yeah, I love it. So 445 00:19:59,345 --> 00:19:59,534 Speaker 2: you 446 00:19:59,534 --> 00:20:01,374 Speaker 2: mentioned habit stacking. Tell me, what is 447 00:20:01,374 --> 00:20:01,695 Speaker 2: that? 448 00:20:01,854 --> 00:20:03,374 Speaker 1: Basically just like getting. 449 00:20:04,175 --> 00:20:06,915 Speaker 1: Habits that you struggle to put into your routine and 450 00:20:06,915 --> 00:20:10,374 Speaker 1: you like attach it to an anchor or something. So, 451 00:20:10,634 --> 00:20:14,595 Speaker 1: for example, if you struggle to remember to like, call 452 00:20:14,595 --> 00:20:16,715 Speaker 1: your nan every week. If you have a drive to 453 00:20:16,715 --> 00:20:20,114 Speaker 1: the office one morning, you know, like every single Wednesday morning, 454 00:20:20,154 --> 00:20:22,065 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call my nan on my drive to the office, 455 00:20:22,075 --> 00:20:24,185 Speaker 1: or whatever it is. So for me, with the mask 456 00:20:24,185 --> 00:20:27,595 Speaker 1: and reading, you know, two goals of mine, instead of 457 00:20:27,595 --> 00:20:28,075 Speaker 1: being like, 458 00:20:28,354 --> 00:20:30,455 Speaker 1: OK, tonight I've got to do my mask and then 459 00:20:30,455 --> 00:20:32,925 Speaker 1: this and this. Multitasking, basically. 460 00:20:33,374 --> 00:20:35,415 Speaker 2: Such a good way to think about it. And thank 461 00:20:35,415 --> 00:20:37,415 Speaker 2: you so much for joining us. Thank you 462 00:20:37,415 --> 00:20:38,244 Speaker 1: so much for having 463 00:20:38,244 --> 00:20:41,975 Speaker 2: me. If you want more beauty product recs, tips, and 464 00:20:41,975 --> 00:20:46,095 Speaker 2: articles conveniently dropped direct to you in your inbox, sign 465 00:20:46,095 --> 00:20:48,795 Speaker 2: up to our beauty newsletter for free. There's a link 466 00:20:48,795 --> 00:20:52,534 Speaker 2: in the episode description. 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