WEBVTT - Everywhere You Go 

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to a Mom with Me podcast. Muma Me

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledges the traditional owners of the land and waters. This

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<v Speaker 1>podcast is recorded on Sometimes in life, you might feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you're missing a certain something, but not up for

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<v Speaker 1>the fuss and mess and commitment the real relationship may

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<v Speaker 1>bring into this situationship a bit of fun with a

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<v Speaker 1>nice person who makes you feel good, no strings attached.

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<v Speaker 2>Very fun, very up for anything. Like he was very

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<v Speaker 2>easy going. Like if I said I wanted to go

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<v Speaker 2>to the driving range or something like that, he'd be like,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to go out for dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>He'd be like, yep, I'll take you, Like I'll pick

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<v Speaker 2>you up at like seven, Like.

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<v Speaker 3>It was very easy.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that's why I was like, Okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 2>this is not only convenient, but he's treating me really,

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<v Speaker 2>really well.

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<v Speaker 1>But life often as a way of making even their messy.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's because of feelings get involved. Sometimes it's because

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<v Speaker 1>it's harder to get out of than expected, And sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it's because it turns out to not be the fun, loving,

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<v Speaker 1>easygoing situation you thought you were getting.

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<v Speaker 2>If this guy literally did not even care that I

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<v Speaker 2>was telling him to leave me alone, and still showing up.

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<v Speaker 3>Then what else was he capable of?

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<v Speaker 2>At the time, I didn't really understand how bad it

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<v Speaker 2>was and how bad it was about to get.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Georgia Love and this is everyone has an ex

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<v Speaker 1>Come with me as we dive into a collection of

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<v Speaker 1>unconventional stories about relationships past through the eyes and the

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<v Speaker 1>hearts of the very people who lived them. At twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>Giselle was living the definition of her best life. She'd

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<v Speaker 1>moved away from home, made a new wide group of friends,

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<v Speaker 1>and went from working as a fitness coach to jim

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<v Speaker 1>to starting and running her own success It's full online

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<v Speaker 1>coaching business. She sums it up best herself.

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<v Speaker 3>I was thriving, I was living in a beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>House, I had lots of friends, and I was just

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<v Speaker 2>living the dream.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, I wasn't really.

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<v Speaker 2>Looking for anything with anyone at the time because I

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<v Speaker 2>was very much focused on myself. I was enjoying being

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<v Speaker 2>single summertime, and I just really was doing my own thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I kind of got bored, I suppose I

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<v Speaker 2>decided to get on the dating apps, and with that.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously guys were starting to come my way.

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<v Speaker 2>Whereas like I had been single previously for like two years,

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<v Speaker 2>not looking for anything.

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<v Speaker 3>It was also post COVID, so yeah, I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Just living my best single girl life during summer and

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<v Speaker 2>then I decided, Okay, look, I'm looking for a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of some fun and then yeah, that's when I

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<v Speaker 2>matched with Craig and he he instantly was just like, yep.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you want to go on a date? Do you

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<v Speaker 3>want to catch up?

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, Okay, well, I really do like

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<v Speaker 2>a persistent and consistent or someone that's just like to

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<v Speaker 2>the point, so I agreed to catch.

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<v Speaker 3>Up with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Dizzelle wasn't looking for anything serious or long term. While

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<v Speaker 1>she was totally up for some fun and getting to

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<v Speaker 1>know someone, she had other plans that would take precedence

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<v Speaker 1>for now.

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<v Speaker 2>We just got out of COVID, so I think I

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<v Speaker 2>felt like I had lost a lot of my life

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<v Speaker 2>in that time. And I was also in the works

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<v Speaker 2>of potentially moving to Bali, so that's why I sort of.

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<v Speaker 3>Was not interested in getting to anything.

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<v Speaker 2>So even when I did meet Craig, he was always

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<v Speaker 2>understanding that that was a potential thing that was going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>So for where she was at in the meantime, Craig

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<v Speaker 1>seemed perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a good looking guy. We had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of mutual friends. He looked like fun. He was younger

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<v Speaker 2>than me, which is another reason I sort of wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>looking for anything serious, and that's sort of why I

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<v Speaker 2>like matched him, because I was just like, Okay, he

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<v Speaker 2>looks like a bit of fun, and he seemed like

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<v Speaker 2>he was very interested in getting to know me and

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<v Speaker 2>having like a good time as well with me. Like

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<v Speaker 2>he liked jet skis, he liked boting, he liked going

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<v Speaker 2>out and drinking.

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<v Speaker 3>Which I all thinks that I like doing.

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<v Speaker 2>He was very adamant on like, Hey, I'll take you

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<v Speaker 2>on a date. He said, I'll come and pick you up,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, off we went.

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<v Speaker 3>We went on a date.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a really nice dinner, we got really red

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<v Speaker 2>wine drunk. We went back to my house because I

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<v Speaker 2>lived very close to there. Nothing happened that night, but

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<v Speaker 2>obviously woke up the next.

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<v Speaker 3>Day and he was still there.

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<v Speaker 2>He worked fifho, so he obviously didn't have a job

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<v Speaker 2>to go to. So I didn't really think that was

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<v Speaker 2>weird that he stayed at mine and then didn't go

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere in the morning.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Complaining because I was incredibly hungover, and when you're hungover,

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<v Speaker 2>you just sort of want someone there to give you

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<v Speaker 2>love and to offer to take you to breakfast, which

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<v Speaker 2>is what he did. So I wasn't complaining. He was funny,

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<v Speaker 2>He was very laid back. He wasn't the most sharpest

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<v Speaker 2>tool that shed. That was probably the only thing that

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of realized that he was a little bit silly.

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<v Speaker 2>He wasn't very smart, but look, everything else was good.

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<v Speaker 2>He was treating me well, he's a gentleman. I then

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to go shopping. He came with me shopping, He

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<v Speaker 2>helped me try and like bikinis and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and we just basically started a relationship from there. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he just kind of stayed in my life and consistently naturally.

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<v Speaker 3>Flowed like that.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a lot of mutual friends, so we started

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<v Speaker 2>doing a lot of things with those guys, like going

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<v Speaker 2>out on the boat, just having really good time. And

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<v Speaker 2>at this point it was gravy like we were just

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<v Speaker 2>having fun. We didn't really have that much of a commitment,

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<v Speaker 2>but everybody sort of knew we were kind of like exclusive.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll obviously dating each other, putting each other on each

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<v Speaker 2>other's social media. I was definitely interested to the point where,

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<v Speaker 2>like if he did go out one night, he was

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a fuck boy before he met me,

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<v Speaker 2>so he would go out and he'd have lots of girlfriends,

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<v Speaker 2>and like, it did get to a point where.

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<v Speaker 3>It sort of did bother me.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's sort of when I kind of realized, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I maybe do have feelings for this guy. Like he

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<v Speaker 2>does treat me well, he is doing all the right things,

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<v Speaker 2>Like he's showing that he is very invested in me.

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<v Speaker 2>So I sort of was like, okay, whatever, I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>going to see what happens until I do make that

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<v Speaker 2>decision to move to Bali.

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<v Speaker 3>He had always known that I was potentially going to

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<v Speaker 3>go to Bali.

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<v Speaker 2>He was just like, yep, okay, I understand that, but

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully we can be together and you stay. And I said, look,

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<v Speaker 2>if we're together, obviously I'll stay and we can work

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<v Speaker 2>through things soon enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Though, as these things so often do when you're not trying,

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<v Speaker 1>Giselle realized it was turning into more.

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<v Speaker 3>He definitely knew how to treat a woman.

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<v Speaker 2>He was very charming and good looking, very fun, very

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<v Speaker 2>up for anything like He was very easy going. Like

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<v Speaker 2>if I said I wanted to go to the driving

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<v Speaker 2>range or something like that, he'd be like, let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to go out for dinner. He'd be like, yep,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll take you, Like I'll pick you up at like seven.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it was very easy.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that's why I was like, Okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 2>this is not only convenient, but like he's treating me really,

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<v Speaker 2>really well. So that's sort of how it ended into

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<v Speaker 2>a relationship. I suppose it just got to that point

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<v Speaker 2>where I was like, why am I dismissing this when

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<v Speaker 2>he's doing absolutely everything to show me that he wants

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<v Speaker 2>to be with me at the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>But over time, she felt a few little niggling things

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<v Speaker 1>start to pop up.

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<v Speaker 3>He would just stay at my house.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if I'd be like I'm gonna go now, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to go hang out some friends, he'd just be like,

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<v Speaker 2>no worries, I'm just going to stay and I'd be like.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay.

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<v Speaker 2>But because he had done so many nice things to me,

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<v Speaker 2>I sort of thought, Okay, this is kind of the

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<v Speaker 2>least I can do is just like let him sort

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<v Speaker 2>of stay at my house. If I went out or

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<v Speaker 2>something like that, and I didn't want to invite him.

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<v Speaker 3>He would sort of invite himself.

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<v Speaker 2>He would kind of make it a little bit uncomfortable,

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<v Speaker 2>constantly just being like, yeah, I'll come, so that real cruisy,

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<v Speaker 2>easy going, like up for anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I sort of started to get a little bit annoying

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<v Speaker 2>because I do definitely like my space and my freedom

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<v Speaker 2>and my independence. I was definitely still interested in him,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, he was kind of crossing some boundaries that

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't really know how to navigate through because he

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<v Speaker 2>was doing so many nice things for me that I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to be rude and kind of disrespect or

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<v Speaker 2>seem ungrateful. I caught up with a girlfriend once and

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<v Speaker 2>she did tell me she was like, dude, be.

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<v Speaker 3>Very careful of Craig.

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<v Speaker 2>He is a leech, Like he will hang on to

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<v Speaker 2>your leg for dear life and he will not let go.

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<v Speaker 2>And I started to be like, oh, starting to see

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<v Speaker 2>that a little bit, Like he just will not.

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<v Speaker 3>He just wouldn't get people's boundaries.

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<v Speaker 2>Even when we'd go out in front of people or

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<v Speaker 2>something like that and he wasn't invited, he'd just rock

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<v Speaker 2>up and he just didn't care. Though he sort of

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<v Speaker 2>was naive and just a little bit like, huh, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you mean I can't Like he would just completely

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<v Speaker 2>not understand and have that social skill. The staying at

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<v Speaker 2>my house when I was sort of like, I have

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<v Speaker 2>a house mate, you can't really stay here. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>once he even I said to him, never go into

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<v Speaker 2>my house mate's room, and he went into my house

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<v Speaker 2>mate's room and took one of his jumpers. We started

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<v Speaker 2>to argue a little bit about those things because it

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<v Speaker 2>started to get quite frequent.

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<v Speaker 3>He would put on puppy dog eyes. You've seen this

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<v Speaker 3>guy like he is.

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<v Speaker 2>A pretty boy, very pretty boy, who just look at

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<v Speaker 2>me with his puppy dog eyes and be like I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>Giselle like I'm so sorry, and I'd just be.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, okay, and I'd forgive it because he was always apologetic.

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<v Speaker 3>He'd say all the right things and then we'd move on.

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<v Speaker 3>Plus he worked.

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<v Speaker 1>Fly in fly out. They were only actually in the

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<v Speaker 1>same city for a week before he'd fly out for

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<v Speaker 1>the next and so on. Giselle was able to still

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<v Speaker 1>have her own space and freedom as well as have

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<v Speaker 1>the guy and the fun. Just half the time.

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<v Speaker 2>He ended up losing his five Fox job. He didn't

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<v Speaker 2>tell me the reason. He just said he didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to work over summer and he had enough money in crypto,

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<v Speaker 2>but obviously once he had lost his job, he had

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<v Speaker 2>to rely on that. And then obviously he was hanging

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<v Speaker 2>around my house even more than before as the weeks

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<v Speaker 2>and the months went on, and when I asked him,

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<v Speaker 2>are you going to go back up to work, he'd say, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just going to spend the summer living off my

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<v Speaker 2>crypto and fluffing around. Basically, he became one of those

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<v Speaker 2>people almost like that you just knew he was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be there. It wasn't like annoying, but you just

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<v Speaker 2>knew he was going to be there. So my friends

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<v Speaker 2>kind of didn't really care. It wasn't really like he

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<v Speaker 2>was a menace or anything like that. He was just

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<v Speaker 2>sort of like there. He didn't have like an overly

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<v Speaker 2>big personality or anything like that, so they didn't mind him.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, he messages me all the time.

0:11:27.448 --> 0:11:30.128
<v Speaker 2>He obviously doesn't have a job. He's sometimes just sitting

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<v Speaker 2>at my house. I did start to feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, Okay, I'm actually starting to get embarrassed because

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<v Speaker 2>my friends are even starting to say things.

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<v Speaker 3>Like can you he just not come? Or why did

0:11:42.368 --> 0:11:42.768
<v Speaker 3>he come?

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<v Speaker 2>And I was sort of like, I'm really sorry, but

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<v Speaker 2>like he just rocks up. I kind of was sort

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<v Speaker 2>of just suppressing everything so I could kind.

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<v Speaker 3>Of live in the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>It was about five months in when Gazelle started realizing

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of time she was enjoying Craig's company and

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of time she was getting frustrated by him

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<v Speaker 1>were not a good balance.

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<v Speaker 2>It was starting to become fifty to fifty every day.

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<v Speaker 2>The percentage of how annoying he was becoming was slowly increasing. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>once he had left his job, he was obviously going

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<v Speaker 2>out and drinking a lot more. He started to get

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more jealous about me. I think at this point,

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<v Speaker 2>when it got to that five month point, I decided

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, okay, I'm probably going to need to

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<v Speaker 2>take a little bit of a step back from him

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<v Speaker 2>and told him I want to have a break. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I just said, look, just don't contact me for

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit. I just needed some breathing space. I

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<v Speaker 2>felt like if I had had a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>breathing space from him, then maybe that space could maybe

0:12:41.728 --> 0:12:44.328
<v Speaker 2>make me miss him, or it would push me further

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<v Speaker 2>away from him and kind of make my decision to

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<v Speaker 2>move to Bali easier.

0:12:47.808 --> 0:12:49.568
<v Speaker 3>He said, or is it because you want to move

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<v Speaker 3>to Bali?

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, no, it's just your actions and

0:12:54.288 --> 0:12:56.808
<v Speaker 2>I just needed a break from him, And obviously, yeah,

0:12:56.808 --> 0:13:00.448
<v Speaker 2>he didn't take that very well. He started acting very irrational,

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<v Speaker 2>just going out and partying all the time. He would

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<v Speaker 2>go out on dates with other girls and try and

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<v Speaker 2>get a rise out of me. Then he would go

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<v Speaker 2>to take it so far and then go out on

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<v Speaker 2>a date with another girl, post it on his social media,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I would obviously go out and people would

0:13:17.128 --> 0:13:20.727
<v Speaker 2>see I'm obviously out somewhere else He's clearly on a

0:13:20.808 --> 0:13:22.728
<v Speaker 2>date with another girl. You know those ones where you

0:13:22.848 --> 0:13:25.328
<v Speaker 2>just like post the hands and you can't say anything else.

0:13:25.648 --> 0:13:29.288
<v Speaker 2>He would do that and it would make our relationship

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<v Speaker 2>look even more like a joke. I was getting kind

0:13:32.728 --> 0:13:35.408
<v Speaker 2>of frustrated embarrassed by him, and I definitely had the

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<v Speaker 2>ick by this point, so.

0:13:37.208 --> 0:13:39.768
<v Speaker 1>She thought this would be it. He clearly wasn't acting

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<v Speaker 1>like a guy trying to win her back, and she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want him to at this point. But then things

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<v Speaker 1>started to turn weird.

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<v Speaker 3>He'd rock up.

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<v Speaker 2>Everywhere I went. I didn't tell him where I was going,

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<v Speaker 2>and I stopped posting. I just muted him so he

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't see where I was at. For example, I had

0:13:56.248 --> 0:13:59.728
<v Speaker 2>planned to go to a festival with my girlfriends. We'd

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<v Speaker 2>had a plan for months in advance, and he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even know really anyone, and he had somehow weaseled his

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<v Speaker 2>way to coming to the pre's. He was showing up

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<v Speaker 2>to every bar that I attended. I have no idea

0:14:13.888 --> 0:14:15.128
<v Speaker 2>how he knew I was there.

0:14:15.688 --> 0:14:16.408
<v Speaker 3>He would rock up.

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<v Speaker 2>At my house occasionally without being invited. He didn't have

0:14:20.288 --> 0:14:22.608
<v Speaker 2>a key or anything like that, but if my house

0:14:22.928 --> 0:14:25.568
<v Speaker 2>mate was at home, he would just help himself. He

0:14:25.568 --> 0:14:27.688
<v Speaker 2>would just walk inside. I'd come home and he'd be

0:14:27.688 --> 0:14:30.568
<v Speaker 2>sitting on my bed. My friends they thought it was

0:14:30.688 --> 0:14:33.888
<v Speaker 2>very creepy. When you're in something, it's harder to see

0:14:34.528 --> 0:14:37.488
<v Speaker 2>what's actually going on because you know that person, You

0:14:37.568 --> 0:14:39.768
<v Speaker 2>know that they genuinely have care for you, and you

0:14:39.808 --> 0:14:42.128
<v Speaker 2>know they wouldn't do anything to try and hurt you.

0:14:42.648 --> 0:14:46.328
<v Speaker 2>So they started to be like, this is actually getting weird.

0:14:46.848 --> 0:14:49.248
<v Speaker 2>Then slowly they start to just be like, no, this

0:14:49.368 --> 0:14:51.688
<v Speaker 2>is actually getting really bad, Like, I think you need

0:14:51.728 --> 0:14:54.608
<v Speaker 2>to cut it off with him. He's getting really, really weird.

0:14:55.048 --> 0:14:56.928
<v Speaker 2>I just thought it was a little bit annoying. But

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<v Speaker 2>then once they started kind of showing me that it

0:15:00.328 --> 0:15:03.968
<v Speaker 2>was actually very creepy and very unusual behavior from someone,

0:15:04.568 --> 0:15:07.648
<v Speaker 2>I was like, Okay, I need to maybe do something

0:15:07.688 --> 0:15:08.088
<v Speaker 2>about this.

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<v Speaker 3>I had been single for a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 2>I yet obviously didn't really know what like a relationship

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<v Speaker 2>was because obviously, in the beginning, it was very natural,

0:15:18.368 --> 0:15:20.208
<v Speaker 2>as I said, like we went on a date, he

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<v Speaker 2>had a lot of initiative.

0:15:21.408 --> 0:15:23.408
<v Speaker 3>He just sort of did everything for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I just thought that that was kind of lay healthy,

0:15:25.968 --> 0:15:27.928
<v Speaker 2>and you know, he just really wanted to be around

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<v Speaker 2>me all the time. But then it did get to

0:15:29.928 --> 0:15:33.928
<v Speaker 2>the point where it was obsessive, like it was infatuation.

0:15:34.768 --> 0:15:37.488
<v Speaker 2>I didn't feel nearly as much as what he did

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<v Speaker 2>for me. It was becoming very one sided for sure,

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<v Speaker 2>and I started to think, Okay, is he a bit

0:15:43.928 --> 0:15:47.528
<v Speaker 2>of a social climber or is he actually just obsessed

0:15:47.568 --> 0:15:50.568
<v Speaker 2>with me. That's inevitably what led me to just being like, Okay,

0:15:50.608 --> 0:15:53.848
<v Speaker 2>this guy has no respect for my space. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>understand that what he's doing is just pushing me away

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<v Speaker 2>from him. I then decided, Okay, I don't really want

0:16:00.608 --> 0:16:01.528
<v Speaker 2>to come back from this.

0:16:02.168 --> 0:16:03.888
<v Speaker 3>I'm happy to still be friends with him.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I don't think this is enough to like burn

0:16:05.968 --> 0:16:09.208
<v Speaker 2>a bridge with somebody, but I think it's easy enough

0:16:09.208 --> 0:16:12.048
<v Speaker 2>for me to kind of escape, using the fact that

0:16:12.128 --> 0:16:14.888
<v Speaker 2>he had gone on a date with another girl as

0:16:14.968 --> 0:16:18.048
<v Speaker 2>a way out, if I'm honest, So yeah, I took

0:16:18.088 --> 0:16:19.168
<v Speaker 2>that opportunity to go.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, my friends are telling me, this is

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<v Speaker 3>really creepy.

0:16:22.448 --> 0:16:25.728
<v Speaker 2>They don't like him. He's crossing a lot of my boundaries.

0:16:25.888 --> 0:16:31.128
<v Speaker 2>My housemate doesn't like him. My family don't really know him,

0:16:31.328 --> 0:16:34.248
<v Speaker 2>but from what they've heard, they don't like him.

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<v Speaker 3>So what is their.

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<v Speaker 2>Left of this relationship? Yes, okay, he treats me well,

0:16:39.208 --> 0:16:42.728
<v Speaker 2>but that's not enough. We're not compatible. His morals don't

0:16:42.728 --> 0:16:45.968
<v Speaker 2>align with mine. He doesn't understand what boundaries I crosses

0:16:46.008 --> 0:16:48.768
<v Speaker 2>them all the time, and that's when I decided to

0:16:48.768 --> 0:16:52.048
<v Speaker 2>cut off. So if this guy literally did not even

0:16:52.368 --> 0:16:54.968
<v Speaker 2>care that I was telling him to leave me alone

0:16:55.048 --> 0:16:57.928
<v Speaker 2>and still showing up, then what else was he capable of.

0:16:58.488 --> 0:17:00.408
<v Speaker 1>She did it the right way. She met up with

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<v Speaker 1>him and had the conversation face to face.

0:17:02.968 --> 0:17:06.128
<v Speaker 2>I basically said to him, Look, I just don't think

0:17:06.167 --> 0:17:09.528
<v Speaker 2>it's going to work out. You have done a few

0:17:09.568 --> 0:17:12.727
<v Speaker 2>things that have made me feel really uncomfortable, and I

0:17:12.848 --> 0:17:15.488
<v Speaker 2>have made the decision that I will be moving to

0:17:15.528 --> 0:17:19.967
<v Speaker 2>Bali anyway. But I have no hard feelings and I

0:17:20.008 --> 0:17:23.048
<v Speaker 2>want to stay amicable. But I just think we need

0:17:23.088 --> 0:17:25.088
<v Speaker 2>to stay away from each other for a little bit.

0:17:25.448 --> 0:17:29.368
<v Speaker 2>I'm not moving for another two or three months, so

0:17:30.128 --> 0:17:33.088
<v Speaker 2>if I see you around, great, but I think for now.

0:17:33.208 --> 0:17:37.528
<v Speaker 3>Let's just leave it. He was very upset, like very upset.

0:17:37.848 --> 0:17:40.608
<v Speaker 2>It was almost like his world had collapsed, Like he

0:17:40.728 --> 0:17:41.448
<v Speaker 2>was crying.

0:17:41.888 --> 0:17:45.207
<v Speaker 3>He was acting very irrational. He wouldn't leave my house.

0:17:45.248 --> 0:17:49.207
<v Speaker 2>He's sort of begging, and I just was like, look,

0:17:49.608 --> 0:17:52.528
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's because I'm a bit cold hearted,

0:17:53.248 --> 0:17:55.808
<v Speaker 2>but after everything he had done, I was just like, no,

0:17:56.008 --> 0:17:57.808
<v Speaker 2>I'm really sorry, you need to leave.

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<v Speaker 1>Gazelle felt bad for how upset he was, but she

0:18:00.848 --> 0:18:03.368
<v Speaker 1>knew this was the right thing for her, and soon

0:18:03.408 --> 0:18:06.168
<v Speaker 1>after she started hearing things that made her even more

0:18:06.208 --> 0:18:06.727
<v Speaker 1>sure of that.

0:18:07.248 --> 0:18:10.808
<v Speaker 2>I actually ended up catching up with one of his

0:18:11.248 --> 0:18:12.128
<v Speaker 2>ex girlfriends.

0:18:12.288 --> 0:18:12.888
<v Speaker 3>She asked me.

0:18:12.968 --> 0:18:14.848
<v Speaker 2>She was just like, oh, so what happened with you

0:18:14.928 --> 0:18:17.728
<v Speaker 2>and Craig. She had heard a completely different story through

0:18:17.768 --> 0:18:20.528
<v Speaker 2>the grapevine that he was the one that broke it off,

0:18:20.568 --> 0:18:24.448
<v Speaker 2>all this shit, the usual, just token heartbroken boy trying

0:18:24.488 --> 0:18:27.728
<v Speaker 2>to like protect their ego. And then I said to her,

0:18:27.848 --> 0:18:30.288
<v Speaker 2>none of that is true, And I said, what happened

0:18:30.288 --> 0:18:33.048
<v Speaker 2>with you and him? And she basically said to me

0:18:33.168 --> 0:18:35.928
<v Speaker 2>that I thought you guys were in a full blown relationship,

0:18:36.048 --> 0:18:38.687
<v Speaker 2>because that's what he had said to me. And she

0:18:38.888 --> 0:18:42.248
<v Speaker 2>was like, no, we were never in a relationship ever.

0:18:42.928 --> 0:18:45.648
<v Speaker 2>And he had made up this whole lie about her,

0:18:46.048 --> 0:18:49.888
<v Speaker 2>saying that she was crazy, the whole nine yards, he

0:18:50.448 --> 0:18:52.568
<v Speaker 2>wanted to be with her, she cheated on him, all

0:18:52.608 --> 0:18:54.648
<v Speaker 2>this stuff, and she just basically was like, none of

0:18:54.648 --> 0:18:56.808
<v Speaker 2>that was true. I went on one date with him,

0:18:57.168 --> 0:18:59.608
<v Speaker 2>and I slept with him maybe once, and then he

0:18:59.688 --> 0:19:01.848
<v Speaker 2>went and told everyone we were dating and that to

0:19:01.928 --> 0:19:05.688
<v Speaker 2>stay away from me. And then that's when I was like, oh, okay,

0:19:05.768 --> 0:19:08.727
<v Speaker 2>so this is him to the core. This isn't just

0:19:08.768 --> 0:19:12.008
<v Speaker 2>what he has done to me. He was very obsessed

0:19:12.048 --> 0:19:14.008
<v Speaker 2>with this other girl, because a couple of other people

0:19:14.008 --> 0:19:18.407
<v Speaker 2>had mentioned that he had been obsessed with her. That

0:19:18.648 --> 0:19:22.048
<v Speaker 2>then all of these cracks started to show and I realized, Okay,

0:19:22.248 --> 0:19:27.247
<v Speaker 2>he is a little bit unhinged. At that point, I

0:19:27.328 --> 0:19:31.288
<v Speaker 2>sort of went okay, I'm just another girl. And I

0:19:31.328 --> 0:19:34.048
<v Speaker 2>sort of thought, okay, good, okay, this is good, Like

0:19:34.128 --> 0:19:35.248
<v Speaker 2>this is gonna blow over.

0:19:35.808 --> 0:19:36.928
<v Speaker 3>This is just him.

0:19:37.328 --> 0:19:39.808
<v Speaker 2>Once I had sort of realized who he was, all

0:19:39.848 --> 0:19:42.128
<v Speaker 2>of these things started coming out about him that I

0:19:42.168 --> 0:19:44.648
<v Speaker 2>didn't like. People being like, oh, now you've broken up,

0:19:44.648 --> 0:19:46.248
<v Speaker 2>we can tell you these things, and I was like,

0:19:46.288 --> 0:19:49.568
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, why didn't you warn me? And I

0:19:49.728 --> 0:19:52.008
<v Speaker 2>sort of was just like, oh, I'm so humiliated and

0:19:52.048 --> 0:19:56.088
<v Speaker 2>embarrassed that I was ever associated with him. After hearing

0:19:56.128 --> 0:19:58.648
<v Speaker 2>everything about him, I was like, Okay, I've made the

0:19:58.648 --> 0:20:02.008
<v Speaker 2>best decision ever. And then from there I focused on

0:20:02.768 --> 0:20:04.968
<v Speaker 2>me moving to Bali because I was moving to Bali

0:20:05.008 --> 0:20:06.648
<v Speaker 2>in a couple of months. I moved back in with

0:20:06.688 --> 0:20:09.688
<v Speaker 2>my mom the month before I left, just to put

0:20:09.888 --> 0:20:12.168
<v Speaker 2>my stuff in storage, all that kind of stuff. So

0:20:12.368 --> 0:20:15.048
<v Speaker 2>I sort of wasn't going out at this point. I

0:20:15.128 --> 0:20:17.808
<v Speaker 2>was definitely very dialed in. I was working a lot,

0:20:18.088 --> 0:20:21.208
<v Speaker 2>so I didn't really hear that much. So he kind

0:20:21.208 --> 0:20:24.568
<v Speaker 2>of left me alone for two months. I had heard

0:20:24.608 --> 0:20:27.727
<v Speaker 2>people telling me things that he had been saying and

0:20:27.968 --> 0:20:30.207
<v Speaker 2>trying to get into contact with me, talking to my

0:20:30.248 --> 0:20:33.728
<v Speaker 2>friends saying, hey, can you give this message to Giselle

0:20:33.768 --> 0:20:37.808
<v Speaker 2>for me? And I was honestly so far past caring

0:20:37.888 --> 0:20:40.207
<v Speaker 2>at this point that I just was ready to go

0:20:40.208 --> 0:20:40.608
<v Speaker 2>to Bali.

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<v Speaker 1>So with all that behind her, off she went.

0:20:45.568 --> 0:20:48.768
<v Speaker 2>My brother lived in Bali, so very easy transition. It's

0:20:48.848 --> 0:20:51.888
<v Speaker 2>only three hours away. I literally just took like three

0:20:52.048 --> 0:20:54.687
<v Speaker 2>or four suitcases and I left like I didn't have

0:20:54.728 --> 0:20:55.728
<v Speaker 2>to take any furniture.

0:20:56.128 --> 0:20:59.088
<v Speaker 3>It was a very easy, easy move. I didn't really

0:20:59.128 --> 0:21:01.808
<v Speaker 3>tell anyone that I was going either. I sort of.

0:21:01.808 --> 0:21:03.928
<v Speaker 2>Didn't want to have to have a full blown going

0:21:03.968 --> 0:21:04.967
<v Speaker 2>away party for it.

0:21:05.048 --> 0:21:07.487
<v Speaker 3>I told my close friends. I didn't see it as

0:21:07.488 --> 0:21:08.008
<v Speaker 3>a big deal.

0:21:08.448 --> 0:21:10.448
<v Speaker 2>A lot of my friends lived there, so it was

0:21:10.488 --> 0:21:14.568
<v Speaker 2>a very easy transition. I worked for myself, so I

0:21:14.688 --> 0:21:17.488
<v Speaker 2>just got up, went to Bali and started a whole

0:21:17.528 --> 0:21:20.167
<v Speaker 2>new life. And it was amazing for the first couple

0:21:20.208 --> 0:21:20.687
<v Speaker 2>of weeks.

0:21:21.648 --> 0:21:24.808
<v Speaker 3>Uh oh. So I went to Bali. I was living

0:21:24.848 --> 0:21:26.208
<v Speaker 3>the dream as you do.

0:21:26.808 --> 0:21:30.888
<v Speaker 2>Got my scooter, you know, I got my little Vmax

0:21:31.088 --> 0:21:34.648
<v Speaker 2>and I was riding down the road with my headphones on,

0:21:34.928 --> 0:21:39.207
<v Speaker 2>just freaking loving my life. And I drove past a

0:21:39.288 --> 0:21:43.568
<v Speaker 2>cafe on one of the main strips and I looked

0:21:43.608 --> 0:21:46.688
<v Speaker 2>to my right, and standing out the front of this

0:21:47.088 --> 0:21:53.248
<v Speaker 2>cafe was Craig. I thought I was hallucinating, but no,

0:21:53.368 --> 0:21:56.608
<v Speaker 2>it was him. I obviously didn't stop because I was

0:21:56.688 --> 0:22:00.368
<v Speaker 2>just like after disbelief. I just kept driving and I

0:22:00.408 --> 0:22:03.247
<v Speaker 2>got home. I sat there and I thought, Okay, what

0:22:03.288 --> 0:22:05.248
<v Speaker 2>am I going to do about this? Do I contact

0:22:05.328 --> 0:22:09.088
<v Speaker 2>him and ask him what he's doing? Or do I

0:22:09.888 --> 0:22:10.288
<v Speaker 2>leave it.

0:22:10.648 --> 0:22:15.008
<v Speaker 3>He could just be on holiday, or he has followed

0:22:15.048 --> 0:22:18.568
<v Speaker 3>me here. There are only those two options.

0:22:19.088 --> 0:22:21.688
<v Speaker 2>I was sort of scared because I didn't know where

0:22:21.728 --> 0:22:25.528
<v Speaker 2>he was at with me. Obviously, I don't spoken to

0:22:25.608 --> 0:22:28.048
<v Speaker 2>him for a couple of months. I'd blocked him off everything.

0:22:28.248 --> 0:22:32.088
<v Speaker 2>I completely crushed his heart. He'd also been telling a

0:22:32.088 --> 0:22:35.408
<v Speaker 2>lot of lies about what had happened to our relationship,

0:22:35.728 --> 0:22:37.648
<v Speaker 2>if you want to call it that. I was telling

0:22:37.648 --> 0:22:40.328
<v Speaker 2>people we were just seeing each other, which was the truth.

0:22:40.488 --> 0:22:42.448
<v Speaker 2>We were just seeing each other, whereas he was telling

0:22:42.488 --> 0:22:45.328
<v Speaker 2>everyone we had been together for you know all this time,

0:22:45.368 --> 0:22:47.928
<v Speaker 2>I'm the one he broke up with me. All these lies,

0:22:48.008 --> 0:22:51.207
<v Speaker 2>so I was not only frustrated at that and the

0:22:51.248 --> 0:22:53.528
<v Speaker 2>lies that he had told other people to make me

0:22:53.568 --> 0:22:57.207
<v Speaker 2>look bad. I was just infuriated that now that he

0:22:57.328 --> 0:22:59.648
<v Speaker 2>was in another country, I didn't think I needed to

0:22:59.888 --> 0:23:02.608
<v Speaker 2>have an opportunity to save my own reputation in a

0:23:02.648 --> 0:23:04.488
<v Speaker 2>new country that I wanted to start a.

0:23:04.408 --> 0:23:05.888
<v Speaker 3>Whole new life.

0:23:05.968 --> 0:23:09.088
<v Speaker 2>I decided I'm going to message him and I just

0:23:09.128 --> 0:23:12.008
<v Speaker 2>said I think I just seen you, and he had

0:23:12.048 --> 0:23:14.888
<v Speaker 2>seen me too, and I said, okay, can we meet

0:23:14.928 --> 0:23:17.248
<v Speaker 2>at that same cafe that you were standing out the

0:23:17.288 --> 0:23:19.648
<v Speaker 2>front of, And of course he says yes. When you

0:23:19.688 --> 0:23:22.128
<v Speaker 2>see an X or something like that, usually you might

0:23:22.128 --> 0:23:23.568
<v Speaker 2>be like, oh my god, it's fate.

0:23:23.688 --> 0:23:26.447
<v Speaker 3>Whereas this was not it. I was just like, absolutely not.

0:23:26.528 --> 0:23:27.448
<v Speaker 3>What are you doing here?

0:23:27.688 --> 0:23:31.088
<v Speaker 2>And he openly said to me, I said, have you

0:23:31.128 --> 0:23:34.568
<v Speaker 2>followed me here? And he said yes, I have faith

0:23:34.648 --> 0:23:37.768
<v Speaker 2>that you will take me back. I was like, oh

0:23:37.808 --> 0:23:41.927
<v Speaker 2>my god. I was like, Craig, this is crazy. And

0:23:41.968 --> 0:23:44.168
<v Speaker 2>he was just looking at me with his puppy dog eyes,

0:23:44.208 --> 0:23:46.768
<v Speaker 2>thinking like I was crazy for thinking it was crazy,

0:23:47.168 --> 0:23:47.768
<v Speaker 2>and I was like.

0:23:48.048 --> 0:23:50.328
<v Speaker 3>No, man, I was like no, no.

0:23:50.848 --> 0:23:52.288
<v Speaker 2>I asked him. I was like, where are you going

0:23:52.328 --> 0:23:54.688
<v Speaker 2>to stay? Because I was like, you don't have a job,

0:23:54.848 --> 0:23:55.968
<v Speaker 2>You're living off your crypto.

0:23:56.488 --> 0:23:57.247
<v Speaker 3>What are you going to do?

0:23:57.408 --> 0:24:00.248
<v Speaker 2>And he says, I've got a job. I'm going to

0:24:00.288 --> 0:24:02.927
<v Speaker 2>do five fo from here, which isn't common. It is

0:24:02.968 --> 0:24:05.407
<v Speaker 2>something that people do. And I was like, god no.

0:24:05.968 --> 0:24:08.448
<v Speaker 2>And then there's these little like home stage you can

0:24:08.488 --> 0:24:12.088
<v Speaker 2>stay in the cheap maybe like forty dollars a night

0:24:12.248 --> 0:24:15.568
<v Speaker 2>that he can just pay for when he's here, he

0:24:15.728 --> 0:24:18.488
<v Speaker 2>just literally can leave his bag or leave it at

0:24:18.488 --> 0:24:21.048
<v Speaker 2>a friend's house or take it with him. I got

0:24:21.168 --> 0:24:22.968
<v Speaker 2>a new job, so I can, you know, have good

0:24:23.008 --> 0:24:25.048
<v Speaker 2>income and all this stuff. And I was like, I

0:24:25.128 --> 0:24:27.368
<v Speaker 2>don't care. Like he was almost saying it, like as

0:24:27.448 --> 0:24:29.768
<v Speaker 2>if I was going to be like yayt's oh good,

0:24:29.808 --> 0:24:31.927
<v Speaker 2>you've got a job, let's go back, let's get back together.

0:24:32.208 --> 0:24:34.167
<v Speaker 2>I was like, no, man, you've been lying about me.

0:24:34.688 --> 0:24:36.927
<v Speaker 2>You've been telling everyone that you broke up with me.

0:24:37.368 --> 0:24:39.528
<v Speaker 2>We weren't even in a relationship. I found out about

0:24:39.568 --> 0:24:40.167
<v Speaker 2>the other girl.

0:24:40.448 --> 0:24:41.248
<v Speaker 3>I found out.

0:24:41.048 --> 0:24:44.888
<v Speaker 2>About everything, and this is weird. And I would really

0:24:44.928 --> 0:24:48.248
<v Speaker 2>appreciate it if you would leave. And he was like, no,

0:24:48.328 --> 0:24:50.368
<v Speaker 2>you know that I love BALI. You know I've wanted

0:24:50.368 --> 0:24:52.648
<v Speaker 2>to be here forever. And I was like, no, that's

0:24:52.728 --> 0:24:54.568
<v Speaker 2>me man. I was like, no, no, no, no, no,

0:24:54.608 --> 0:24:58.207
<v Speaker 2>You're not going to steal my life from me. He'd

0:24:58.328 --> 0:25:03.407
<v Speaker 2>never mention Bali. He literally never had any plan to

0:25:03.408 --> 0:25:05.648
<v Speaker 2>move there. And I was like, you need to leave

0:25:05.808 --> 0:25:08.248
<v Speaker 2>me alone. Please do not move here. And he said,

0:25:08.288 --> 0:25:10.448
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do what I want. And he said,

0:25:10.488 --> 0:25:15.768
<v Speaker 2>if I can't have you, no one will. I was

0:25:15.808 --> 0:25:19.528
<v Speaker 2>now very creeped out, weirded out, and I just wanted

0:25:19.608 --> 0:25:22.968
<v Speaker 2>him to get the f away from me. I obviously

0:25:23.008 --> 0:25:27.528
<v Speaker 2>go home and I tell my brother. My brother is

0:25:27.608 --> 0:25:29.888
<v Speaker 2>sort of very as well, laid back. I don't really

0:25:29.928 --> 0:25:32.248
<v Speaker 2>like getting him involved in my problems. Plus I can

0:25:32.288 --> 0:25:33.248
<v Speaker 2>handle my own stuff.

0:25:33.248 --> 0:25:34.687
<v Speaker 3>But I told him about it.

0:25:35.168 --> 0:25:37.528
<v Speaker 2>And he was just like, just stay away from him,

0:25:37.848 --> 0:25:40.447
<v Speaker 2>and you should be okay. Just let's play it by

0:25:40.528 --> 0:25:43.768
<v Speaker 2>ear because you know that I'm here, You've got nothing

0:25:43.768 --> 0:25:46.528
<v Speaker 2>to worry about. If he does anything over here, like

0:25:46.768 --> 0:25:48.848
<v Speaker 2>we're in Bali, it's a different ballgame.

0:25:49.008 --> 0:25:51.487
<v Speaker 3>He'll get deported. He can't stalk you.

0:25:51.608 --> 0:25:53.808
<v Speaker 2>I have a lot of people that can sort him

0:25:53.808 --> 0:25:56.848
<v Speaker 2>out if he does try anything. But at that point,

0:25:56.928 --> 0:25:58.848
<v Speaker 2>I didn't think I was in much danger, and I

0:25:59.008 --> 0:26:01.328
<v Speaker 2>just told him stay out of my way and I'll

0:26:01.328 --> 0:26:04.568
<v Speaker 2>do my own thing. So at this point I was angry,

0:26:04.888 --> 0:26:08.208
<v Speaker 2>but I wasn't that scared for my safety.

0:26:08.408 --> 0:26:09.408
<v Speaker 3>I suppose.

0:26:12.608 --> 0:26:14.768
<v Speaker 1>A couple of weeks went by and she didn't see

0:26:14.888 --> 0:26:17.728
<v Speaker 1>or hear from him. She thought finally he'd got the hint,

0:26:18.448 --> 0:26:20.728
<v Speaker 1>and then she got a surprise from home that would

0:26:20.728 --> 0:26:21.808
<v Speaker 1>make everything better.

0:26:22.208 --> 0:26:26.568
<v Speaker 2>One of my best friends, Tiffany, she flew over and

0:26:26.608 --> 0:26:27.248
<v Speaker 2>surprised me.

0:26:27.728 --> 0:26:29.488
<v Speaker 3>Once she had been there for a week. We had

0:26:29.528 --> 0:26:30.608
<v Speaker 3>such an amazing week.

0:26:30.848 --> 0:26:34.968
<v Speaker 2>She decided that she was going to move there, which

0:26:35.008 --> 0:26:37.648
<v Speaker 2>I was happy about. Another really close friend that I

0:26:37.648 --> 0:26:40.528
<v Speaker 2>could trust that's going to be living in Bali.

0:26:40.648 --> 0:26:44.927
<v Speaker 3>I was over the moon. She did know Craig as well.

0:26:45.088 --> 0:26:47.808
<v Speaker 3>She didn't know him that.

0:26:47.848 --> 0:26:52.608
<v Speaker 2>Well though, but I tried to explain to her the

0:26:52.648 --> 0:26:53.648
<v Speaker 2>magnitude of it.

0:26:54.288 --> 0:26:56.288
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, one night we all went out.

0:26:56.408 --> 0:26:59.968
<v Speaker 2>My friend was holding a pub croll and he hired

0:27:00.008 --> 0:27:04.808
<v Speaker 2>a bus for it, and basically we were sitting at

0:27:04.808 --> 0:27:05.167
<v Speaker 2>the pub.

0:27:05.448 --> 0:27:06.608
<v Speaker 3>Was sitting at the bench.

0:27:07.128 --> 0:27:11.008
<v Speaker 2>And I had specifically said to the guy that was

0:27:11.088 --> 0:27:15.008
<v Speaker 2>running at if Craig shows up, because at this point

0:27:15.168 --> 0:27:18.128
<v Speaker 2>I had heard some things that he'd been popping up places.

0:27:18.648 --> 0:27:21.688
<v Speaker 2>I had specifically told him, please, can you make sure

0:27:21.768 --> 0:27:24.407
<v Speaker 2>that if he comes that he's not on the list.

0:27:24.688 --> 0:27:25.848
<v Speaker 2>I brought so many.

0:27:25.608 --> 0:27:28.288
<v Speaker 3>People there and guess who shows up.

0:27:28.808 --> 0:27:31.088
<v Speaker 2>And there was a table of like maybe fifteen of

0:27:31.168 --> 0:27:36.568
<v Speaker 2>us dead, silent, absolute pure humiliation, like pure humiliation if

0:27:36.568 --> 0:27:38.328
<v Speaker 2>you've ever seen it in your whole entire life.

0:27:38.848 --> 0:27:41.608
<v Speaker 3>It was just too far. So I absolutely blew up.

0:27:41.928 --> 0:27:43.568
<v Speaker 3>I told him to leave. I was like, you are

0:27:43.608 --> 0:27:44.768
<v Speaker 3>nine invited.

0:27:44.928 --> 0:27:47.368
<v Speaker 2>No one knows you, no one wants you here, and

0:27:47.368 --> 0:27:49.528
<v Speaker 2>not one person said a thing. And I know it

0:27:49.608 --> 0:27:53.728
<v Speaker 2>would have seemed nasty maybe, but under what I had

0:27:53.768 --> 0:27:56.528
<v Speaker 2>been through and him now rocking up to places that

0:27:56.608 --> 0:27:59.688
<v Speaker 2>he's one not invited to, it was just too far.

0:28:00.008 --> 0:28:02.488
<v Speaker 3>He stood there and was just like, nah, I'm not going.

0:28:02.848 --> 0:28:03.848
<v Speaker 3>It was so embarrassed.

0:28:03.888 --> 0:28:05.368
<v Speaker 2>If I was him, I would have been on that

0:28:05.448 --> 0:28:09.048
<v Speaker 2>scooter fanging it down Bartu belong so quickly.

0:28:10.928 --> 0:28:13.248
<v Speaker 3>But he didn't. He stood there, suit his ground. He

0:28:13.288 --> 0:28:14.128
<v Speaker 3>would not leave.

0:28:14.608 --> 0:28:16.927
<v Speaker 2>It was so awkward. The girls were like, he's not

0:28:17.048 --> 0:28:19.688
<v Speaker 2>worth her. I said, okay, whatever. I can't really kick

0:28:19.728 --> 0:28:22.407
<v Speaker 2>him out from the pub it's not my pub, but

0:28:22.688 --> 0:28:24.768
<v Speaker 2>I can stop him from getting on that bus.

0:28:25.768 --> 0:28:29.608
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, we carried on with the night. I would go

0:28:29.648 --> 0:28:30.328
<v Speaker 3>to the toilet.

0:28:30.688 --> 0:28:34.608
<v Speaker 2>He would literally sit in my spot, in my spot

0:28:34.728 --> 0:28:37.768
<v Speaker 2>and start talking to my girlfriends that did not like him.

0:28:37.848 --> 0:28:40.288
<v Speaker 2>I knew the whole situation, and they would be like, man,

0:28:40.928 --> 0:28:42.808
<v Speaker 2>can you please get away from me?

0:28:43.448 --> 0:28:46.248
<v Speaker 3>And he literally would just don't worry about Giselle.

0:28:46.328 --> 0:28:49.408
<v Speaker 2>She's just talking crap, like, don't worry about her, and

0:28:49.448 --> 0:28:51.408
<v Speaker 2>then you would just try and carry on the conversation.

0:28:51.728 --> 0:28:54.208
<v Speaker 2>I just ended up leaving, like me and my girlfriends

0:28:54.248 --> 0:28:57.568
<v Speaker 2>were just like, Okay, this is too much. He will

0:28:57.568 --> 0:29:00.808
<v Speaker 2>not go And then I think they saw it firsthand

0:29:01.288 --> 0:29:05.608
<v Speaker 2>and were like, Okay, this is crazy, Like I now understand.

0:29:05.688 --> 0:29:08.608
<v Speaker 2>You cannot get rid of him. I texted him and

0:29:08.648 --> 0:29:11.208
<v Speaker 2>I was just like, please never do that ever again,

0:29:11.928 --> 0:29:14.088
<v Speaker 2>like I don't want to be made out to look

0:29:14.248 --> 0:29:18.608
<v Speaker 2>like I am insane. And then he basically just said,

0:29:19.088 --> 0:29:21.248
<v Speaker 2>fuck you, I'm going to do what I want, like

0:29:21.328 --> 0:29:22.928
<v Speaker 2>there's nothing you can do about it.

0:29:23.528 --> 0:29:25.608
<v Speaker 3>And that's when it sort of started to get bad.

0:29:26.168 --> 0:29:28.368
<v Speaker 1>This was only the first time of what would become

0:29:28.408 --> 0:29:32.328
<v Speaker 1>a regular thing. It kept happening. Everywhere she would go

0:29:32.768 --> 0:29:34.488
<v Speaker 1>there he would be it.

0:29:34.448 --> 0:29:38.328
<v Speaker 2>Was borderline stalking. He was telling everyone all this stuff.

0:29:38.328 --> 0:29:41.288
<v Speaker 2>He was telling guys if they come anywhere near me

0:29:41.408 --> 0:29:45.728
<v Speaker 2>that he's going to bash them. He would literally show

0:29:45.808 --> 0:29:48.968
<v Speaker 2>up to cafes that I was at. At this point,

0:29:49.088 --> 0:29:50.968
<v Speaker 2>it was just getting to the point where every single

0:29:51.008 --> 0:29:53.608
<v Speaker 2>time I just would get up and I would leave.

0:29:54.368 --> 0:29:55.248
<v Speaker 3>Obviously he didn't know.

0:29:55.168 --> 0:29:57.368
<v Speaker 2>Where I lived, which was great, but yeah, it just

0:29:57.408 --> 0:29:59.048
<v Speaker 2>got to the point where I was like, this guy

0:29:59.088 --> 0:30:03.408
<v Speaker 2>has literally stalked me across country. I honestly felt helpless

0:30:03.448 --> 0:30:06.808
<v Speaker 2>because he would rock up to places people felt really

0:30:06.888 --> 0:30:11.408
<v Speaker 2>uncomfortable with us, arguing, and as I said, he had

0:30:11.448 --> 0:30:13.448
<v Speaker 2>made a couple of friends over there, so some of

0:30:13.448 --> 0:30:15.888
<v Speaker 2>them did believe some of the stuff that he was saying.

0:30:16.328 --> 0:30:17.928
<v Speaker 3>So it got to the point where I was just like,

0:30:18.008 --> 0:30:18.488
<v Speaker 3>I am.

0:30:18.408 --> 0:30:22.368
<v Speaker 2>Literally screwed here. He's followed me here. Half of the

0:30:22.408 --> 0:30:25.208
<v Speaker 2>people aren't really even believing what I'm saying. They just

0:30:25.248 --> 0:30:28.048
<v Speaker 2>think I'm this crazy ex girlfriend that just hates their

0:30:28.128 --> 0:30:30.728
<v Speaker 2>ex boyfriend because he had told all these lies about me,

0:30:31.568 --> 0:30:34.248
<v Speaker 2>and I felt helpless. I was like, I've just moved

0:30:34.248 --> 0:30:37.008
<v Speaker 2>here and he's literally followed me here.

0:30:37.248 --> 0:30:40.928
<v Speaker 3>He's trying to ruin my reputation. He's telling everyone all

0:30:40.928 --> 0:30:43.528
<v Speaker 3>of these lies about me. I remember going to a

0:30:43.568 --> 0:30:46.528
<v Speaker 3>party once and one of these guys. I was like, hey,

0:30:46.768 --> 0:30:49.808
<v Speaker 3>nice to me, and he was like, oh, you're CRAIGSX.

0:30:49.888 --> 0:30:51.688
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, what do you mean? And I

0:30:51.728 --> 0:30:53.288
<v Speaker 3>was like, nor, I'm not. And they're like, oh, we've

0:30:53.328 --> 0:30:54.448
<v Speaker 3>heard all about you.

0:30:54.928 --> 0:30:57.208
<v Speaker 2>And I was just like, oh, mate, I was just

0:30:57.248 --> 0:31:00.408
<v Speaker 2>like dude, and I tried to tell them the actual

0:31:00.488 --> 0:31:02.328
<v Speaker 2>story and they would not believe me.

0:31:03.168 --> 0:31:05.808
<v Speaker 3>I was just like so deflated.

0:31:05.928 --> 0:31:08.648
<v Speaker 2>I just like could not believe that someone can actually

0:31:08.648 --> 0:31:13.288
<v Speaker 2>get away with this. Fast forward maybe three more months.

0:31:13.608 --> 0:31:17.488
<v Speaker 2>He just continued to do it. He would just continue

0:31:17.528 --> 0:31:21.248
<v Speaker 2>to show up everywhere I was. I was so drained

0:31:21.408 --> 0:31:24.408
<v Speaker 2>by it all. He would just show up everywhere. I

0:31:24.488 --> 0:31:27.408
<v Speaker 2>wasn't able to fulfill what I wanted to do. I

0:31:27.448 --> 0:31:30.688
<v Speaker 2>couldn't really probably meet any guys because he was cock

0:31:30.728 --> 0:31:33.448
<v Speaker 2>blocking me and telling everyone that, like, if anyone goes

0:31:33.448 --> 0:31:35.768
<v Speaker 2>near me, he's going to bash them, that I'm crazy,

0:31:36.368 --> 0:31:39.168
<v Speaker 2>and by association, I was just I was so sick

0:31:39.208 --> 0:31:39.448
<v Speaker 2>of it.

0:31:39.528 --> 0:31:40.728
<v Speaker 3>I was so drained.

0:31:40.808 --> 0:31:44.408
<v Speaker 2>I ended up gaining like six kilos, Like I was

0:31:44.568 --> 0:31:48.728
<v Speaker 2>partying all the time when I actually went there to like,

0:31:49.248 --> 0:31:51.248
<v Speaker 2>I had gone there the best shape of my life.

0:31:51.288 --> 0:31:53.648
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm an online fitness coach, like I still

0:31:54.208 --> 0:31:56.888
<v Speaker 2>did all of those things, but I got really depressed

0:31:56.928 --> 0:32:00.328
<v Speaker 2>over there because I genuinely had a stalker and for

0:32:00.488 --> 0:32:05.408
<v Speaker 2>so many months no one believed me. He was ruining

0:32:05.728 --> 0:32:10.208
<v Speaker 2>my life and ruining my reputation. And then one we

0:32:10.248 --> 0:32:15.088
<v Speaker 2>all had a Christmas party and again he wasn't invited,

0:32:15.168 --> 0:32:20.368
<v Speaker 2>but he just shows up, right, he's drunk off his face. Anyway,

0:32:20.408 --> 0:32:25.128
<v Speaker 2>he comes to the house and I'm talking to a guy.

0:32:26.008 --> 0:32:27.408
<v Speaker 3>He gets jealous.

0:32:27.488 --> 0:32:32.368
<v Speaker 2>Obviously, I decided to go upstairs and I hear this

0:32:32.568 --> 0:32:36.488
<v Speaker 2>big smash and I looked downstairs and Craig and my

0:32:36.608 --> 0:32:41.008
<v Speaker 2>friend are in a massive fight, massive fight, like full

0:32:41.048 --> 0:32:44.648
<v Speaker 2>punch on. I was obviously like, get off of my friend,

0:32:45.408 --> 0:32:46.368
<v Speaker 2>get off of him.

0:32:46.768 --> 0:32:50.008
<v Speaker 3>He was just like, fuck off, Gizelle off.

0:32:50.008 --> 0:32:55.168
<v Speaker 2>Everyone made the biggest embarrassment out of himself, like totally

0:32:55.328 --> 0:33:00.768
<v Speaker 2>showed his true colors finally, and everyone was obviously like, Okay,

0:33:00.848 --> 0:33:03.008
<v Speaker 2>you need to just settle down. My friend was just

0:33:03.088 --> 0:33:05.488
<v Speaker 2>so taken back, being like what did I even do?

0:33:05.848 --> 0:33:10.288
<v Speaker 2>I was literally just talking to Gizelle like he didn't

0:33:10.328 --> 0:33:11.808
<v Speaker 2>know much of the story at.

0:33:11.768 --> 0:33:13.368
<v Speaker 3>All, so he was so confused.

0:33:13.848 --> 0:33:16.968
<v Speaker 2>And then literally Craig just jumps over the table and

0:33:17.008 --> 0:33:19.928
<v Speaker 2>goes for round two, and everyone at this point was

0:33:19.968 --> 0:33:21.248
<v Speaker 2>just like, are you joking me?

0:33:21.608 --> 0:33:24.048
<v Speaker 3>This has just gotten out of hand. You need to leave.

0:33:24.648 --> 0:33:26.848
<v Speaker 3>And then that's when all of his friends and all

0:33:26.888 --> 0:33:27.768
<v Speaker 3>came full circle.

0:33:27.848 --> 0:33:32.128
<v Speaker 2>They were like, Okay, maybe we believe what you've been saying.

0:33:32.888 --> 0:33:37.288
<v Speaker 2>And then gradually, over the next couple of months, he

0:33:37.488 --> 0:33:40.048
<v Speaker 2>started to do things like I think he started to

0:33:40.128 --> 0:33:43.208
<v Speaker 2>just lose grip. He'd lost all of those friends because

0:33:43.248 --> 0:33:45.208
<v Speaker 2>he had done all of that kind of stuff, and

0:33:45.368 --> 0:33:49.288
<v Speaker 2>he started acting out, getting drunk on the scooter and driving.

0:33:49.288 --> 0:33:51.728
<v Speaker 2>These were all things that I was hearing from other people.

0:33:52.448 --> 0:33:56.248
<v Speaker 2>Getting drunk, driving on the scooter, crashing. He had lied

0:33:56.288 --> 0:33:58.528
<v Speaker 2>about his job, he didn't actually have his job. He'd

0:33:58.568 --> 0:34:00.088
<v Speaker 2>run out of all his crypto money.

0:34:00.728 --> 0:34:03.808
<v Speaker 1>And then something happened that officially went too far.

0:34:04.408 --> 0:34:09.448
<v Speaker 2>Remember Tiffany, she needed a house. She had nowhere to live.

0:34:09.768 --> 0:34:12.687
<v Speaker 2>She couldn't live with me. I didn't have room. You're

0:34:12.728 --> 0:34:15.968
<v Speaker 2>in another country. At the time, it was post COVID,

0:34:16.087 --> 0:34:19.047
<v Speaker 2>it was very hard to find a rental. She was

0:34:19.048 --> 0:34:23.567
<v Speaker 2>paying a lot of money staying at these homestays, and

0:34:23.768 --> 0:34:27.567
<v Speaker 2>at this point he moved into a house with a

0:34:27.568 --> 0:34:31.288
<v Speaker 2>couple of other people and offered the room.

0:34:31.368 --> 0:34:33.808
<v Speaker 3>To Tiffany Yep Craig.

0:34:34.288 --> 0:34:36.848
<v Speaker 2>It was really hard for her to be like, Okay,

0:34:37.048 --> 0:34:40.087
<v Speaker 2>do I choose my friendship with Giselle or do I

0:34:40.168 --> 0:34:43.647
<v Speaker 2>choose like having this house, so she moved in there.

0:34:46.568 --> 0:34:49.648
<v Speaker 2>I was just kind of dumbfounded by the whole entire situation.

0:34:49.808 --> 0:34:51.528
<v Speaker 2>I kind of felt like I was in a dream

0:34:51.608 --> 0:34:54.648
<v Speaker 2>and that I was just very hopeless, and it had

0:34:54.688 --> 0:34:58.848
<v Speaker 2>just gotten so far out of control it was insane,

0:34:59.208 --> 0:35:03.768
<v Speaker 2>and was now literally taking over not only my life

0:35:04.088 --> 0:35:07.968
<v Speaker 2>but now my friends, and putting her in a situation

0:35:08.088 --> 0:35:09.568
<v Speaker 2>and me in a situation.

0:35:09.128 --> 0:35:11.328
<v Speaker 3>Where we were vote very, very uncomfortable.

0:35:11.448 --> 0:35:14.768
<v Speaker 2>And that's when I was like, Okay, now I'm actually

0:35:14.848 --> 0:35:17.328
<v Speaker 2>scared of what he's capable of.

0:35:17.608 --> 0:35:18.488
<v Speaker 3>The manipulation.

0:35:19.328 --> 0:35:23.968
<v Speaker 2>Somehow, he had some type of power, and I needed.

0:35:23.648 --> 0:35:26.047
<v Speaker 3>To take that away from him. So I didn't really

0:35:26.128 --> 0:35:27.488
<v Speaker 3>know what he had planned.

0:35:28.008 --> 0:35:30.888
<v Speaker 2>Obviously I didn't have any contact with him, but obviously

0:35:30.968 --> 0:35:33.127
<v Speaker 2>had a plan to try and get closer to.

0:35:33.048 --> 0:35:36.528
<v Speaker 3>Me, and I was not going to let that happen.

0:35:37.248 --> 0:35:40.928
<v Speaker 2>I was to the point I had made enough connections

0:35:40.968 --> 0:35:44.688
<v Speaker 2>with people, and because he had done a few things,

0:35:45.328 --> 0:35:49.808
<v Speaker 2>I had the proof to then get him deported. So

0:35:49.888 --> 0:35:51.848
<v Speaker 2>it was something that obviously I didn't want to take

0:35:51.928 --> 0:35:54.608
<v Speaker 2>like lightly. It was going to take a few months,

0:35:54.928 --> 0:35:59.448
<v Speaker 2>but no one could really grasp the magnitude of what

0:35:59.728 --> 0:36:03.488
<v Speaker 2>he was doing because they're not living in your life

0:36:03.488 --> 0:36:06.567
<v Speaker 2>and in your position. They kind of dusted it under

0:36:06.608 --> 0:36:09.288
<v Speaker 2>the rug a little bit, and he obviously said a

0:36:09.288 --> 0:36:11.968
<v Speaker 2>lot of life, so I think a lot.

0:36:11.808 --> 0:36:14.088
<v Speaker 3>Of people didn't really know what to believe.

0:36:14.368 --> 0:36:17.128
<v Speaker 2>So when I was like, I'm going to get him deported,

0:36:17.688 --> 0:36:20.808
<v Speaker 2>people almost were like, you're being dramatic, and I was like,

0:36:21.128 --> 0:36:22.208
<v Speaker 2>are you joking me?

0:36:22.568 --> 0:36:25.888
<v Speaker 3>Have you had someone stalky to BALI? No. A lot

0:36:25.928 --> 0:36:27.488
<v Speaker 3>of my friends.

0:36:27.088 --> 0:36:30.728
<v Speaker 2>Felt very sorry for him, which I understand, and then

0:36:30.768 --> 0:36:33.527
<v Speaker 2>the other half of like, one hundred percent, you need

0:36:33.568 --> 0:36:37.567
<v Speaker 2>to do this. So to get someone deported you have

0:36:37.648 --> 0:36:40.128
<v Speaker 2>to come up with a lot of evidence about this person.

0:36:40.448 --> 0:36:44.448
<v Speaker 2>I had to obviously show screenshots of our conversations. I

0:36:44.488 --> 0:36:48.567
<v Speaker 2>had to have proof of him rocking up to places, witnesses,

0:36:49.128 --> 0:36:51.128
<v Speaker 2>and then in the long run, I'm not going to

0:36:51.168 --> 0:36:56.128
<v Speaker 2>lie because of how drained I was from him and

0:36:56.168 --> 0:37:01.928
<v Speaker 2>the whole situation. Going through another thing like deporting someone

0:37:01.968 --> 0:37:06.607
<v Speaker 2>from a country was just too much for me. I

0:37:06.648 --> 0:37:09.567
<v Speaker 2>had missed my family. As I said before, I had

0:37:10.168 --> 0:37:14.448
<v Speaker 2>so much weight. I just wasn't myself. I was constantly partying,

0:37:14.688 --> 0:37:17.527
<v Speaker 2>and I wasn't really doing what I had planned to

0:37:17.608 --> 0:37:22.087
<v Speaker 2>do over there. So after a couple of months of

0:37:22.088 --> 0:37:24.607
<v Speaker 2>being like, yes, I'm one hundred percent doing this, I'm

0:37:24.648 --> 0:37:27.448
<v Speaker 2>getting him out and then I can start over, I

0:37:27.488 --> 0:37:31.448
<v Speaker 2>think there was too much damage done now that I

0:37:31.728 --> 0:37:34.448
<v Speaker 2>just pulled the pin and I moved.

0:37:34.928 --> 0:37:37.808
<v Speaker 3>I just one day got up. I had enough.

0:37:39.448 --> 0:37:41.848
<v Speaker 2>When I had gone home, it was a mixed bag

0:37:41.888 --> 0:37:42.567
<v Speaker 2>of emotions.

0:37:42.688 --> 0:37:45.248
<v Speaker 3>I was relieved, I was also very sad.

0:37:45.648 --> 0:37:45.848
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:37:45.848 --> 0:37:47.688
<v Speaker 3>I didn't want to leave my brother. I didn't want

0:37:47.688 --> 0:37:48.448
<v Speaker 3>to leave my life.

0:37:48.448 --> 0:37:52.688
<v Speaker 2>And until I got home, I actually realized how much

0:37:53.248 --> 0:37:57.608
<v Speaker 2>he had taken from me, and it was really so crushing.

0:37:58.328 --> 0:38:01.728
<v Speaker 2>And then it was just months of being drained and

0:38:02.608 --> 0:38:06.008
<v Speaker 2>not really understanding or realizing what was going on because

0:38:06.088 --> 0:38:08.368
<v Speaker 2>I was so new to a new country that you're

0:38:08.408 --> 0:38:12.488
<v Speaker 2>trying to gauge where you're at and where to go

0:38:12.688 --> 0:38:15.768
<v Speaker 2>and how to navigate this new life. And then on

0:38:15.808 --> 0:38:20.168
<v Speaker 2>top of that having someone physically trying to stalk you,

0:38:20.448 --> 0:38:24.527
<v Speaker 2>and it was honestly heartbreaking. Like I came back a

0:38:24.568 --> 0:38:28.928
<v Speaker 2>totally different person. I remember telling everyone that I completely

0:38:28.968 --> 0:38:32.448
<v Speaker 2>lost myself, which was true, and when I got home,

0:38:32.488 --> 0:38:35.968
<v Speaker 2>I realized that and I had to completely start over.

0:38:36.768 --> 0:38:40.888
<v Speaker 2>So when I got home, I just moved straight in

0:38:41.088 --> 0:38:45.127
<v Speaker 2>with my mum. I wasn't in a horrible situation financially,

0:38:45.248 --> 0:38:49.288
<v Speaker 2>I was just mentally really messed up. But I just

0:38:49.368 --> 0:38:52.488
<v Speaker 2>totally took it to my advantage and was like, you

0:38:52.528 --> 0:38:55.888
<v Speaker 2>know what, I'm back in Australia now. He is no

0:38:55.968 --> 0:38:58.288
<v Speaker 2>longer in my life. I knew that he wanted to

0:38:58.328 --> 0:39:00.768
<v Speaker 2>stay there because everyone had told me that. He was

0:39:00.808 --> 0:39:03.408
<v Speaker 2>like very grateful for the fact that I didn't get

0:39:03.488 --> 0:39:06.168
<v Speaker 2>him reported, so he was like I'm done. You know,

0:39:06.208 --> 0:39:08.288
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to leave her alone now because I think

0:39:08.288 --> 0:39:11.728
<v Speaker 2>that really scared him. So I had basically just done

0:39:11.808 --> 0:39:14.448
<v Speaker 2>him a favor, so I was sort of like, Okay,

0:39:14.528 --> 0:39:15.928
<v Speaker 2>this has to be done now.

0:39:16.248 --> 0:39:18.608
<v Speaker 1>It was devastating that it had come to this, but

0:39:18.848 --> 0:39:21.047
<v Speaker 1>with Craig out of the picture and the support of

0:39:21.048 --> 0:39:23.727
<v Speaker 1>her family and old friends back at home, she picked

0:39:23.728 --> 0:39:26.128
<v Speaker 1>herself up and it didn't take long for her to

0:39:26.168 --> 0:39:27.368
<v Speaker 1>start to thrive again.

0:39:27.848 --> 0:39:31.408
<v Speaker 2>I moved home, I started my own business, I moved

0:39:31.488 --> 0:39:35.848
<v Speaker 2>into a new house, literally two months after I met

0:39:35.848 --> 0:39:38.448
<v Speaker 2>my now partner that I've been together with for two

0:39:38.528 --> 0:39:39.328
<v Speaker 2>and a half years.

0:39:39.728 --> 0:39:41.288
<v Speaker 3>I have a gordgeous bullderg.

0:39:41.888 --> 0:39:44.527
<v Speaker 2>I have an amazing life, honest to God, like it's

0:39:44.568 --> 0:39:45.047
<v Speaker 2>so good.

0:39:45.368 --> 0:39:47.688
<v Speaker 3>I'm the strongest and fittest that I've ever been.

0:39:47.728 --> 0:39:51.168
<v Speaker 2>Now I've learnt so much from that though, Like even

0:39:51.208 --> 0:39:51.808
<v Speaker 2>living in.

0:39:51.728 --> 0:39:54.288
<v Speaker 3>Bali was crazy itself.

0:39:54.568 --> 0:39:57.968
<v Speaker 2>It's not as sunshine and roses as everyone thinks. You

0:39:58.008 --> 0:40:00.888
<v Speaker 2>are living in a third world country. So moving back

0:40:00.928 --> 0:40:05.167
<v Speaker 2>to Australia made me realize how grateful I was for

0:40:05.288 --> 0:40:09.488
<v Speaker 2>my life, and that in itself completely changed my perspective

0:40:09.928 --> 0:40:10.848
<v Speaker 2>on life.

0:40:11.288 --> 0:40:14.168
<v Speaker 3>Not play the victim could have been a lot worse.

0:40:14.728 --> 0:40:17.888
<v Speaker 2>And you have to lose yourself to find yourself sometimes,

0:40:17.888 --> 0:40:21.288
<v Speaker 2>and that's inevitably what I did. Bali it self shaped me,

0:40:21.488 --> 0:40:25.888
<v Speaker 2>and then the situation with Craig as well made me

0:40:26.128 --> 0:40:29.608
<v Speaker 2>even more resilient. And I definitely wouldn't be the person

0:40:29.648 --> 0:40:33.608
<v Speaker 2>that I am now unless that situation happened. And also

0:40:34.248 --> 0:40:38.008
<v Speaker 2>now I know what it's like to have someone that's

0:40:38.408 --> 0:40:42.608
<v Speaker 2>infatuated with you, obsessed with you. All of these signs

0:40:42.608 --> 0:40:45.087
<v Speaker 2>and all of these red flags are things that I'm

0:40:45.128 --> 0:40:47.607
<v Speaker 2>never going to tolerate. And I don't think I would

0:40:47.648 --> 0:40:49.968
<v Speaker 2>have found my now partner that treats me like a

0:40:50.048 --> 0:40:53.808
<v Speaker 2>queen unless I picked up on all of these things.

0:40:53.808 --> 0:40:57.168
<v Speaker 2>And then I just decided I wasn't going to allow

0:40:57.568 --> 0:41:01.088
<v Speaker 2>that shit to continue on into my now relationship.

0:41:01.808 --> 0:41:05.328
<v Speaker 3>And I'm just so grateful that I went through that.

0:41:05.408 --> 0:41:09.167
<v Speaker 2>I suppose now, looking back a couple years later after

0:41:09.248 --> 0:41:13.488
<v Speaker 2>it happened, I genuinely realize how bad it was and

0:41:13.528 --> 0:41:16.208
<v Speaker 2>how messed up it was. And I really want people

0:41:16.248 --> 0:41:20.248
<v Speaker 2>and women especially to understand when they are with someone

0:41:20.328 --> 0:41:23.248
<v Speaker 2>that's a narcissist, that's like a love bomber, but not

0:41:23.288 --> 0:41:26.208
<v Speaker 2>even a love bombit someone that's just infatuated with you,

0:41:26.888 --> 0:41:31.808
<v Speaker 2>that gives you everything, but they are completely crossing your

0:41:31.848 --> 0:41:36.928
<v Speaker 2>boundaries and just giving them these signs that maybe they

0:41:37.048 --> 0:41:43.567
<v Speaker 2>need to really reflect on who they're with and not

0:41:43.688 --> 0:41:46.527
<v Speaker 2>jump into things as quickly as I did, because we

0:41:46.608 --> 0:41:49.528
<v Speaker 2>literally met one day and the next we were basically

0:41:49.528 --> 0:41:53.288
<v Speaker 2>seeing each other, and it's better to just take things

0:41:53.328 --> 0:41:56.728
<v Speaker 2>slow and to really really.

0:41:56.328 --> 0:41:58.528
<v Speaker 3>Do your research on these people.

0:42:00.568 --> 0:42:04.048
<v Speaker 2>If I look back at it, it really was horrendous,

0:42:04.168 --> 0:42:08.607
<v Speaker 2>and at times, even me, someone that's incredibly resilient and

0:42:09.168 --> 0:42:11.688
<v Speaker 2>can get my out of anything. I found myself in

0:42:11.728 --> 0:42:14.408
<v Speaker 2>a position that I was completely powerless, And to think

0:42:14.448 --> 0:42:18.128
<v Speaker 2>about people that are in these situations that haven't had

0:42:18.208 --> 0:42:20.768
<v Speaker 2>maybe the resources that I've had, and haven't had the

0:42:20.848 --> 0:42:23.488
<v Speaker 2>upbringing I have had that have made me such a

0:42:23.488 --> 0:42:27.888
<v Speaker 2>strong person. I kin't even imagine what these other women

0:42:28.128 --> 0:42:31.527
<v Speaker 2>and these situations that they are going through where they

0:42:31.528 --> 0:42:35.728
<v Speaker 2>feel completely unheard as well, no one believes them that

0:42:35.848 --> 0:42:40.208
<v Speaker 2>they're alone, and this happens more often than it should,

0:42:40.568 --> 0:42:43.488
<v Speaker 2>and it happens just like nearly nally without even you

0:42:43.528 --> 0:42:48.167
<v Speaker 2>knowing as well. And I just hope that girls can

0:42:48.408 --> 0:42:51.488
<v Speaker 2>be safe out there because it's scary, and stalking is

0:42:51.608 --> 0:42:55.688
<v Speaker 2>actual criminal offense and it can end lives. It has,

0:42:55.728 --> 0:42:58.768
<v Speaker 2>and I'm just so grateful that it didn't mine another

0:42:58.848 --> 0:42:59.888
<v Speaker 2>lesson that I've learned.

0:43:00.448 --> 0:43:03.488
<v Speaker 3>If multiple of your friends are saying things to you.

0:43:03.448 --> 0:43:05.488
<v Speaker 2>I'm so lucky that I did have a lot of

0:43:05.488 --> 0:43:08.288
<v Speaker 2>friends sort of say early on that they felt comfortable

0:43:08.368 --> 0:43:10.968
<v Speaker 2>saying that to me, and that I genuinely did listen

0:43:11.008 --> 0:43:14.848
<v Speaker 2>to them. Not that it obviously you couldn't change what

0:43:15.008 --> 0:43:18.608
<v Speaker 2>was going to happen, but you definitely need to listen

0:43:18.648 --> 0:43:22.048
<v Speaker 2>to your friends, especially if there's a magnitude of friends

0:43:22.288 --> 0:43:24.688
<v Speaker 2>telling you this person isn't.

0:43:24.488 --> 0:43:26.687
<v Speaker 3>Right for you. You really really need.

0:43:26.608 --> 0:43:29.808
<v Speaker 2>To understand that this could be unsafe and that the

0:43:29.848 --> 0:43:32.128
<v Speaker 2>people that care about you are only doing it because

0:43:32.168 --> 0:43:34.568
<v Speaker 2>they care about you, and that you should probably listen

0:43:34.608 --> 0:43:38.808
<v Speaker 2>to them. And for the people that are in these situations,

0:43:39.248 --> 0:43:40.728
<v Speaker 2>you can get out of it.

0:43:41.008 --> 0:43:45.328
<v Speaker 3>You can. You just have to be open to that help.

0:43:45.608 --> 0:43:49.088
<v Speaker 2>I suppose, and I know a lot of people also

0:43:49.168 --> 0:43:52.848
<v Speaker 2>in these situations are scared to tell their friend because

0:43:52.848 --> 0:43:55.768
<v Speaker 2>they're scared that that friend isn't going to believe them,

0:43:55.768 --> 0:43:59.607
<v Speaker 2>and I've been there, but you're better off telling them regardless,

0:43:59.688 --> 0:44:02.448
<v Speaker 2>because if they end up in a horrible situation like

0:44:02.608 --> 0:44:05.448
<v Speaker 2>what I have, you're going to regret that. And the

0:44:05.568 --> 0:44:07.808
<v Speaker 2>chances are that if they are your friend, they will

0:44:07.808 --> 0:44:09.768
<v Speaker 2>believe you.

0:44:25.928 --> 0:44:28.408
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