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Speaker 1: You're listening to a Mom with Me podcast. Muma Me

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Speaker 1: acknowledges the traditional owners of the land and waters. This

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Speaker 1: podcast is recorded on Sometimes in life, you might feel

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Speaker 1: like you're missing a certain something, but not up for

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Speaker 1: the fuss and mess and commitment the real relationship may

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Speaker 1: bring into this situationship a bit of fun with a

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Speaker 1: nice person who makes you feel good, no strings attached.

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Speaker 2: Very fun, very up for anything. Like he was very

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Speaker 2: easy going. Like if I said I wanted to go

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Speaker 2: to the driving range or something like that, he'd be like,

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Speaker 2: let's go.

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Speaker 3: I want to go out for dinner.

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Speaker 2: He'd be like, yep, I'll take you, Like I'll pick

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Speaker 2: you up at like seven, Like.

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Speaker 3: It was very easy.

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Speaker 2: So I think that's why I was like, Okay, cool,

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Speaker 2: this is not only convenient, but he's treating me really,

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Speaker 2: really well.

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Speaker 1: But life often as a way of making even their messy.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's because of feelings get involved. Sometimes it's because

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Speaker 1: it's harder to get out of than expected, And sometimes

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Speaker 1: it's because it turns out to not be the fun, loving,

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Speaker 1: easygoing situation you thought you were getting.

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Speaker 2: If this guy literally did not even care that I

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Speaker 2: was telling him to leave me alone, and still showing up.

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Speaker 3: Then what else was he capable of?

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Speaker 2: At the time, I didn't really understand how bad it

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Speaker 2: was and how bad it was about to get.

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Speaker 1: I'm Georgia Love and this is everyone has an ex

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Speaker 1: Come with me as we dive into a collection of

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Speaker 1: unconventional stories about relationships past through the eyes and the

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Speaker 1: hearts of the very people who lived them. At twenty eight,

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Speaker 1: Giselle was living the definition of her best life. She'd

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Speaker 1: moved away from home, made a new wide group of friends,

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Speaker 1: and went from working as a fitness coach to jim

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Speaker 1: to starting and running her own success It's full online

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Speaker 1: coaching business. She sums it up best herself.

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Speaker 3: I was thriving, I was living in a beautiful.

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Speaker 2: House, I had lots of friends, and I was just

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Speaker 3: Really, I wasn't really.

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Speaker 2: Looking for anything with anyone at the time because I

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Speaker 2: single summertime, and I just really was doing my own thing.

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Speaker 2: So when I kind of got bored, I suppose I

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Speaker 2: decided to get on the dating apps, and with that.

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Speaker 3: Obviously guys were starting to come my way.

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Speaker 2: Whereas like I had been single previously for like two years,

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Speaker 3: It was also post COVID, so yeah, I was.

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Speaker 2: Just living my best single girl life during summer and

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Speaker 2: then I decided, Okay, look, I'm looking for a little

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Speaker 2: matched with Craig and he he instantly was just like, yep.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to go on a date? Do you

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Speaker 2: And I was like, Okay, well, I really do like

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Speaker 1: Dizzelle wasn't looking for anything serious or long term. While

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Speaker 2: We just got out of COVID, so I think I

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Speaker 1: So for where she was at in the meantime, Craig

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Speaker 2: He was a good looking guy. We had a lot

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Speaker 2: We had a really nice dinner, we got really red

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Speaker 2: He was treating me well, he's a gentleman. I then

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Speaker 2: like if he did go out one night, he was

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Speaker 3: He had always known that I was potentially going to

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Speaker 2: He was just like, yep, okay, I understand that, but

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Speaker 1: Though, as these things so often do when you're not trying,

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Speaker 3: He definitely knew how to treat a woman.

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Speaker 2: He was very charming and good looking, very fun, very

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Speaker 2: So I think that's why I was like, Okay, cool,

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Speaker 1: But over time, she felt a few little niggling things

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Speaker 3: He would just stay at my house.

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Speaker 2: Even if I'd be like I'm gonna go now, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to go hang out some friends, he'd just be like,

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Speaker 2: But because he had done so many nice things to me,

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Speaker 2: I sort of started to get a little bit annoying

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Speaker 2: He is a leech, Like he will hang on to

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Speaker 2: once he even I said to him, never go into

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Speaker 3: He would put on puppy dog eyes. You've seen this

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Speaker 2: A pretty boy, very pretty boy, who just look at

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Speaker 2: I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 3: Giselle like I'm so sorry, and I'd just be.

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Speaker 2: Like, okay, and I'd forgive it because he was always apologetic.

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Speaker 3: He'd say all the right things and then we'd move on.

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Speaker 3: Plus he worked.

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Speaker 1: Fly in fly out. They were only actually in the

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Speaker 1: the next and so on. Giselle was able to still

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Speaker 2: He ended up losing his five Fox job. He didn't

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Speaker 2: but obviously once he had lost his job, he had

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Speaker 2: Everywhere I went. I didn't tell him where I was going,

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Speaker 2: So they started to be like, this is actually getting weird.

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Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, I need to maybe do something

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Speaker 3: I had been single for a couple of years.

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Speaker 2: Like, I don't think this is enough to like burn

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Speaker 3: You know what, my friends are telling me, this is

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Speaker 2: They don't like him. He's crossing a lot of my boundaries.

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Speaker 2: My housemate doesn't like him. My family don't really know him,

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Speaker 2: but from what they've heard, they don't like him.

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Speaker 2: Left of this relationship? Yes, okay, he treats me well,

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Speaker 2: I basically said to him, Look, I just don't think

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Speaker 2: I'm not moving for another two or three months, so

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Speaker 3: Let's just leave it. He was very upset, like very upset.

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Speaker 2: all this shit, the usual, just token heartbroken boy trying

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Speaker 2: Once I had sort of realized who he was, all

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Speaker 2: so I didn't really hear that much. So he kind

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Speaker 1: So with all that behind her, off she went.

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Speaker 2: My brother lived in Bali, so very easy transition. It's

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Speaker 3: It was a very easy, easy move. I didn't really

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439
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Speaker 2: away party for it.

440
00:21:05,048 --> 00:21:07,487
Speaker 3: I told my close friends. I didn't see it as

441
00:21:07,488 --> 00:21:08,008
Speaker 3: a big deal.

442
00:21:08,448 --> 00:21:10,448
Speaker 2: A lot of my friends lived there, so it was

443
00:21:10,488 --> 00:21:14,568
Speaker 2: a very easy transition. I worked for myself, so I

444
00:21:14,688 --> 00:21:17,488
Speaker 2: just got up, went to Bali and started a whole

445
00:21:17,528 --> 00:21:20,167
Speaker 2: new life. And it was amazing for the first couple

446
00:21:20,208 --> 00:21:20,687
Speaker 2: of weeks.

447
00:21:21,648 --> 00:21:24,808
Speaker 3: Uh oh. So I went to Bali. I was living

448
00:21:24,848 --> 00:21:26,208
Speaker 3: the dream as you do.

449
00:21:26,808 --> 00:21:30,888
Speaker 2: Got my scooter, you know, I got my little Vmax

450
00:21:31,088 --> 00:21:34,648
Speaker 2: and I was riding down the road with my headphones on,

451
00:21:34,928 --> 00:21:39,207
Speaker 2: just freaking loving my life. And I drove past a

452
00:21:39,288 --> 00:21:43,568
Speaker 2: cafe on one of the main strips and I looked

453
00:21:43,608 --> 00:21:46,688
Speaker 2: to my right, and standing out the front of this

454
00:21:47,088 --> 00:21:53,248
Speaker 2: cafe was Craig. I thought I was hallucinating, but no,

455
00:21:53,368 --> 00:21:56,608
Speaker 2: it was him. I obviously didn't stop because I was

456
00:21:56,688 --> 00:22:00,368
Speaker 2: just like after disbelief. I just kept driving and I

457
00:22:00,408 --> 00:22:03,247
Speaker 2: got home. I sat there and I thought, Okay, what

458
00:22:03,288 --> 00:22:05,248
Speaker 2: am I going to do about this? Do I contact

459
00:22:05,328 --> 00:22:09,088
Speaker 2: him and ask him what he's doing? Or do I

460
00:22:09,888 --> 00:22:10,288
Speaker 2: leave it.

461
00:22:10,648 --> 00:22:15,008
Speaker 3: He could just be on holiday, or he has followed

462
00:22:15,048 --> 00:22:18,568
Speaker 3: me here. There are only those two options.

463
00:22:19,088 --> 00:22:21,688
Speaker 2: I was sort of scared because I didn't know where

464
00:22:21,728 --> 00:22:25,528
Speaker 2: he was at with me. Obviously, I don't spoken to

465
00:22:25,608 --> 00:22:28,048
Speaker 2: him for a couple of months. I'd blocked him off everything.

466
00:22:28,248 --> 00:22:32,088
Speaker 2: I completely crushed his heart. He'd also been telling a

467
00:22:32,088 --> 00:22:35,408
Speaker 2: lot of lies about what had happened to our relationship,

468
00:22:35,728 --> 00:22:37,648
Speaker 2: if you want to call it that. I was telling

469
00:22:37,648 --> 00:22:40,328
Speaker 2: people we were just seeing each other, which was the truth.

470
00:22:40,488 --> 00:22:42,448
Speaker 2: We were just seeing each other, whereas he was telling

471
00:22:42,488 --> 00:22:45,328
Speaker 2: everyone we had been together for you know all this time,

472
00:22:45,368 --> 00:22:47,928
Speaker 2: I'm the one he broke up with me. All these lies,

473
00:22:48,008 --> 00:22:51,207
Speaker 2: so I was not only frustrated at that and the

474
00:22:51,248 --> 00:22:53,528
Speaker 2: lies that he had told other people to make me

475
00:22:53,568 --> 00:22:57,207
Speaker 2: look bad. I was just infuriated that now that he

476
00:22:57,328 --> 00:22:59,648
Speaker 2: was in another country, I didn't think I needed to

477
00:22:59,888 --> 00:23:02,608
Speaker 2: have an opportunity to save my own reputation in a

478
00:23:02,648 --> 00:23:04,488
Speaker 2: new country that I wanted to start a.

479
00:23:04,408 --> 00:23:05,888
Speaker 3: Whole new life.

480
00:23:05,968 --> 00:23:09,088
Speaker 2: I decided I'm going to message him and I just

481
00:23:09,128 --> 00:23:12,008
Speaker 2: said I think I just seen you, and he had

482
00:23:12,048 --> 00:23:14,888
Speaker 2: seen me too, and I said, okay, can we meet

483
00:23:14,928 --> 00:23:17,248
Speaker 2: at that same cafe that you were standing out the

484
00:23:17,288 --> 00:23:19,648
Speaker 2: front of, And of course he says yes. When you

485
00:23:19,688 --> 00:23:22,128
Speaker 2: see an X or something like that, usually you might

486
00:23:22,128 --> 00:23:23,568
Speaker 2: be like, oh my god, it's fate.

487
00:23:23,688 --> 00:23:26,447
Speaker 3: Whereas this was not it. I was just like, absolutely not.

488
00:23:26,528 --> 00:23:27,448
Speaker 3: What are you doing here?

489
00:23:27,688 --> 00:23:31,088
Speaker 2: And he openly said to me, I said, have you

490
00:23:31,128 --> 00:23:34,568
Speaker 2: followed me here? And he said yes, I have faith

491
00:23:34,648 --> 00:23:37,768
Speaker 2: that you will take me back. I was like, oh

492
00:23:37,808 --> 00:23:41,927
Speaker 2: my god. I was like, Craig, this is crazy. And

493
00:23:41,968 --> 00:23:44,168
Speaker 2: he was just looking at me with his puppy dog eyes,

494
00:23:44,208 --> 00:23:46,768
Speaker 2: thinking like I was crazy for thinking it was crazy,

495
00:23:47,168 --> 00:23:47,768
Speaker 2: and I was like.

496
00:23:48,048 --> 00:23:50,328
Speaker 3: No, man, I was like no, no.

497
00:23:50,848 --> 00:23:52,288
Speaker 2: I asked him. I was like, where are you going

498
00:23:52,328 --> 00:23:54,688
Speaker 2: to stay? Because I was like, you don't have a job,

499
00:23:54,848 --> 00:23:55,968
Speaker 2: You're living off your crypto.

500
00:23:56,488 --> 00:23:57,247
Speaker 3: What are you going to do?

501
00:23:57,408 --> 00:24:00,248
Speaker 2: And he says, I've got a job. I'm going to

502
00:24:00,288 --> 00:24:02,927
Speaker 2: do five fo from here, which isn't common. It is

503
00:24:02,968 --> 00:24:05,407
Speaker 2: something that people do. And I was like, god no.

504
00:24:05,968 --> 00:24:08,448
Speaker 2: And then there's these little like home stage you can

505
00:24:08,488 --> 00:24:12,088
Speaker 2: stay in the cheap maybe like forty dollars a night

506
00:24:12,248 --> 00:24:15,568
Speaker 2: that he can just pay for when he's here, he

507
00:24:15,728 --> 00:24:18,488
Speaker 2: just literally can leave his bag or leave it at

508
00:24:18,488 --> 00:24:21,048
Speaker 2: a friend's house or take it with him. I got

509
00:24:21,168 --> 00:24:22,968
Speaker 2: a new job, so I can, you know, have good

510
00:24:23,008 --> 00:24:25,048
Speaker 2: income and all this stuff. And I was like, I

511
00:24:25,128 --> 00:24:27,368
Speaker 2: don't care. Like he was almost saying it, like as

512
00:24:27,448 --> 00:24:29,768
Speaker 2: if I was going to be like yayt's oh good,

513
00:24:29,808 --> 00:24:31,927
Speaker 2: you've got a job, let's go back, let's get back together.

514
00:24:32,208 --> 00:24:34,167
Speaker 2: I was like, no, man, you've been lying about me.

515
00:24:34,688 --> 00:24:36,927
Speaker 2: You've been telling everyone that you broke up with me.

516
00:24:37,368 --> 00:24:39,528
Speaker 2: We weren't even in a relationship. I found out about

517
00:24:39,568 --> 00:24:40,167
Speaker 2: the other girl.

518
00:24:40,448 --> 00:24:41,248
Speaker 3: I found out.

519
00:24:41,048 --> 00:24:44,888
Speaker 2: About everything, and this is weird. And I would really

520
00:24:44,928 --> 00:24:48,248
Speaker 2: appreciate it if you would leave. And he was like, no,

521
00:24:48,328 --> 00:24:50,368
Speaker 2: you know that I love BALI. You know I've wanted

522
00:24:50,368 --> 00:24:52,648
Speaker 2: to be here forever. And I was like, no, that's

523
00:24:52,728 --> 00:24:54,568
Speaker 2: me man. I was like, no, no, no, no, no,

524
00:24:54,608 --> 00:24:58,207
Speaker 2: You're not going to steal my life from me. He'd

525
00:24:58,328 --> 00:25:03,407
Speaker 2: never mention Bali. He literally never had any plan to

526
00:25:03,408 --> 00:25:05,648
Speaker 2: move there. And I was like, you need to leave

527
00:25:05,808 --> 00:25:08,248
Speaker 2: me alone. Please do not move here. And he said,

528
00:25:08,288 --> 00:25:10,448
Speaker 2: I'm going to do what I want. And he said,

529
00:25:10,488 --> 00:25:15,768
Speaker 2: if I can't have you, no one will. I was

530
00:25:15,808 --> 00:25:19,528
Speaker 2: now very creeped out, weirded out, and I just wanted

531
00:25:19,608 --> 00:25:22,968
Speaker 2: him to get the f away from me. I obviously

532
00:25:23,008 --> 00:25:27,528
Speaker 2: go home and I tell my brother. My brother is

533
00:25:27,608 --> 00:25:29,888
Speaker 2: sort of very as well, laid back. I don't really

534
00:25:29,928 --> 00:25:32,248
Speaker 2: like getting him involved in my problems. Plus I can

535
00:25:32,288 --> 00:25:33,248
Speaker 2: handle my own stuff.

536
00:25:33,248 --> 00:25:34,687
Speaker 3: But I told him about it.

537
00:25:35,168 --> 00:25:37,528
Speaker 2: And he was just like, just stay away from him,

538
00:25:37,848 --> 00:25:40,447
Speaker 2: and you should be okay. Just let's play it by

539
00:25:40,528 --> 00:25:43,768
Speaker 2: ear because you know that I'm here, You've got nothing

540
00:25:43,768 --> 00:25:46,528
Speaker 2: to worry about. If he does anything over here, like

541
00:25:46,768 --> 00:25:48,848
Speaker 2: we're in Bali, it's a different ballgame.

542
00:25:49,008 --> 00:25:51,487
Speaker 3: He'll get deported. He can't stalk you.

543
00:25:51,608 --> 00:25:53,808
Speaker 2: I have a lot of people that can sort him

544
00:25:53,808 --> 00:25:56,848
Speaker 2: out if he does try anything. But at that point,

545
00:25:56,928 --> 00:25:58,848
Speaker 2: I didn't think I was in much danger, and I

546
00:25:59,008 --> 00:26:01,328
Speaker 2: just told him stay out of my way and I'll

547
00:26:01,328 --> 00:26:04,568
Speaker 2: do my own thing. So at this point I was angry,

548
00:26:04,888 --> 00:26:08,208
Speaker 2: but I wasn't that scared for my safety.

549
00:26:08,408 --> 00:26:09,408
Speaker 3: I suppose.

550
00:26:12,608 --> 00:26:14,768
Speaker 1: A couple of weeks went by and she didn't see

551
00:26:14,888 --> 00:26:17,728
Speaker 1: or hear from him. She thought finally he'd got the hint,

552
00:26:18,448 --> 00:26:20,728
Speaker 1: and then she got a surprise from home that would

553
00:26:20,728 --> 00:26:21,808
Speaker 1: make everything better.

554
00:26:22,208 --> 00:26:26,568
Speaker 2: One of my best friends, Tiffany, she flew over and

555
00:26:26,608 --> 00:26:27,248
Speaker 2: surprised me.

556
00:26:27,728 --> 00:26:29,488
Speaker 3: Once she had been there for a week. We had

557
00:26:29,528 --> 00:26:30,608
Speaker 3: such an amazing week.

558
00:26:30,848 --> 00:26:34,968
Speaker 2: She decided that she was going to move there, which

559
00:26:35,008 --> 00:26:37,648
Speaker 2: I was happy about. Another really close friend that I

560
00:26:37,648 --> 00:26:40,528
Speaker 2: could trust that's going to be living in Bali.

561
00:26:40,648 --> 00:26:44,927
Speaker 3: I was over the moon. She did know Craig as well.

562
00:26:45,088 --> 00:26:47,808
Speaker 3: She didn't know him that.

563
00:26:47,848 --> 00:26:52,608
Speaker 2: Well though, but I tried to explain to her the

564
00:26:52,648 --> 00:26:53,648
Speaker 2: magnitude of it.

565
00:26:54,288 --> 00:26:56,288
Speaker 3: Anyway, one night we all went out.

566
00:26:56,408 --> 00:26:59,968
Speaker 2: My friend was holding a pub croll and he hired

567
00:27:00,008 --> 00:27:04,808
Speaker 2: a bus for it, and basically we were sitting at

568
00:27:04,808 --> 00:27:05,167
Speaker 2: the pub.

569
00:27:05,448 --> 00:27:06,608
Speaker 3: Was sitting at the bench.

570
00:27:07,128 --> 00:27:11,008
Speaker 2: And I had specifically said to the guy that was

571
00:27:11,088 --> 00:27:15,008
Speaker 2: running at if Craig shows up, because at this point

572
00:27:15,168 --> 00:27:18,128
Speaker 2: I had heard some things that he'd been popping up places.

573
00:27:18,648 --> 00:27:21,688
Speaker 2: I had specifically told him, please, can you make sure

574
00:27:21,768 --> 00:27:24,407
Speaker 2: that if he comes that he's not on the list.

575
00:27:24,688 --> 00:27:25,848
Speaker 2: I brought so many.

576
00:27:25,608 --> 00:27:28,288
Speaker 3: People there and guess who shows up.

577
00:27:28,808 --> 00:27:31,088
Speaker 2: And there was a table of like maybe fifteen of

578
00:27:31,168 --> 00:27:36,568
Speaker 2: us dead, silent, absolute pure humiliation, like pure humiliation if

579
00:27:36,568 --> 00:27:38,328
Speaker 2: you've ever seen it in your whole entire life.

580
00:27:38,848 --> 00:27:41,608
Speaker 3: It was just too far. So I absolutely blew up.

581
00:27:41,928 --> 00:27:43,568
Speaker 3: I told him to leave. I was like, you are

582
00:27:43,608 --> 00:27:44,768
Speaker 3: nine invited.

583
00:27:44,928 --> 00:27:47,368
Speaker 2: No one knows you, no one wants you here, and

584
00:27:47,368 --> 00:27:49,528
Speaker 2: not one person said a thing. And I know it

585
00:27:49,608 --> 00:27:53,728
Speaker 2: would have seemed nasty maybe, but under what I had

586
00:27:53,768 --> 00:27:56,528
Speaker 2: been through and him now rocking up to places that

587
00:27:56,608 --> 00:27:59,688
Speaker 2: he's one not invited to, it was just too far.

588
00:28:00,008 --> 00:28:02,488
Speaker 3: He stood there and was just like, nah, I'm not going.

589
00:28:02,848 --> 00:28:03,848
Speaker 3: It was so embarrassed.

590
00:28:03,888 --> 00:28:05,368
Speaker 2: If I was him, I would have been on that

591
00:28:05,448 --> 00:28:09,048
Speaker 2: scooter fanging it down Bartu belong so quickly.

592
00:28:10,928 --> 00:28:13,248
Speaker 3: But he didn't. He stood there, suit his ground. He

593
00:28:13,288 --> 00:28:14,128
Speaker 3: would not leave.

594
00:28:14,608 --> 00:28:16,927
Speaker 2: It was so awkward. The girls were like, he's not

595
00:28:17,048 --> 00:28:19,688
Speaker 2: worth her. I said, okay, whatever. I can't really kick

596
00:28:19,728 --> 00:28:22,407
Speaker 2: him out from the pub it's not my pub, but

597
00:28:22,688 --> 00:28:24,768
Speaker 2: I can stop him from getting on that bus.

598
00:28:25,768 --> 00:28:29,608
Speaker 3: Anyway, we carried on with the night. I would go

599
00:28:29,648 --> 00:28:30,328
Speaker 3: to the toilet.

600
00:28:30,688 --> 00:28:34,608
Speaker 2: He would literally sit in my spot, in my spot

601
00:28:34,728 --> 00:28:37,768
Speaker 2: and start talking to my girlfriends that did not like him.

602
00:28:37,848 --> 00:28:40,288
Speaker 2: I knew the whole situation, and they would be like, man,

603
00:28:40,928 --> 00:28:42,808
Speaker 2: can you please get away from me?

604
00:28:43,448 --> 00:28:46,248
Speaker 3: And he literally would just don't worry about Giselle.

605
00:28:46,328 --> 00:28:49,408
Speaker 2: She's just talking crap, like, don't worry about her, and

606
00:28:49,448 --> 00:28:51,408
Speaker 2: then you would just try and carry on the conversation.

607
00:28:51,728 --> 00:28:54,208
Speaker 2: I just ended up leaving, like me and my girlfriends

608
00:28:54,248 --> 00:28:57,568
Speaker 2: were just like, Okay, this is too much. He will

609
00:28:57,568 --> 00:29:00,808
Speaker 2: not go And then I think they saw it firsthand

610
00:29:01,288 --> 00:29:05,608
Speaker 2: and were like, Okay, this is crazy, Like I now understand.

611
00:29:05,688 --> 00:29:08,608
Speaker 2: You cannot get rid of him. I texted him and

612
00:29:08,648 --> 00:29:11,208
Speaker 2: I was just like, please never do that ever again,

613
00:29:11,928 --> 00:29:14,088
Speaker 2: like I don't want to be made out to look

614
00:29:14,248 --> 00:29:18,608
Speaker 2: like I am insane. And then he basically just said,

615
00:29:19,088 --> 00:29:21,248
Speaker 2: fuck you, I'm going to do what I want, like

616
00:29:21,328 --> 00:29:22,928
Speaker 2: there's nothing you can do about it.

617
00:29:23,528 --> 00:29:25,608
Speaker 3: And that's when it sort of started to get bad.

618
00:29:26,168 --> 00:29:28,368
Speaker 1: This was only the first time of what would become

619
00:29:28,408 --> 00:29:32,328
Speaker 1: a regular thing. It kept happening. Everywhere she would go

620
00:29:32,768 --> 00:29:34,488
Speaker 1: there he would be it.

621
00:29:34,448 --> 00:29:38,328
Speaker 2: Was borderline stalking. He was telling everyone all this stuff.

622
00:29:38,328 --> 00:29:41,288
Speaker 2: He was telling guys if they come anywhere near me

623
00:29:41,408 --> 00:29:45,728
Speaker 2: that he's going to bash them. He would literally show

624
00:29:45,808 --> 00:29:48,968
Speaker 2: up to cafes that I was at. At this point,

625
00:29:49,088 --> 00:29:50,968
Speaker 2: it was just getting to the point where every single

626
00:29:51,008 --> 00:29:53,608
Speaker 2: time I just would get up and I would leave.

627
00:29:54,368 --> 00:29:55,248
Speaker 3: Obviously he didn't know.

628
00:29:55,168 --> 00:29:57,368
Speaker 2: Where I lived, which was great, but yeah, it just

629
00:29:57,408 --> 00:29:59,048
Speaker 2: got to the point where I was like, this guy

630
00:29:59,088 --> 00:30:03,408
Speaker 2: has literally stalked me across country. I honestly felt helpless

631
00:30:03,448 --> 00:30:06,808
Speaker 2: because he would rock up to places people felt really

632
00:30:06,888 --> 00:30:11,408
Speaker 2: uncomfortable with us, arguing, and as I said, he had

633
00:30:11,448 --> 00:30:13,448
Speaker 2: made a couple of friends over there, so some of

634
00:30:13,448 --> 00:30:15,888
Speaker 2: them did believe some of the stuff that he was saying.

635
00:30:16,328 --> 00:30:17,928
Speaker 3: So it got to the point where I was just like,

636
00:30:18,008 --> 00:30:18,488
Speaker 3: I am.

637
00:30:18,408 --> 00:30:22,368
Speaker 2: Literally screwed here. He's followed me here. Half of the

638
00:30:22,408 --> 00:30:25,208
Speaker 2: people aren't really even believing what I'm saying. They just

639
00:30:25,248 --> 00:30:28,048
Speaker 2: think I'm this crazy ex girlfriend that just hates their

640
00:30:28,128 --> 00:30:30,728
Speaker 2: ex boyfriend because he had told all these lies about me,

641
00:30:31,568 --> 00:30:34,248
Speaker 2: and I felt helpless. I was like, I've just moved

642
00:30:34,248 --> 00:30:37,008
Speaker 2: here and he's literally followed me here.

643
00:30:37,248 --> 00:30:40,928
Speaker 3: He's trying to ruin my reputation. He's telling everyone all

644
00:30:40,928 --> 00:30:43,528
Speaker 3: of these lies about me. I remember going to a

645
00:30:43,568 --> 00:30:46,528
Speaker 3: party once and one of these guys. I was like, hey,

646
00:30:46,768 --> 00:30:49,808
Speaker 3: nice to me, and he was like, oh, you're CRAIGSX.

647
00:30:49,888 --> 00:30:51,688
Speaker 3: And I was like, what do you mean? And I

648
00:30:51,728 --> 00:30:53,288
Speaker 3: was like, nor, I'm not. And they're like, oh, we've

649
00:30:53,328 --> 00:30:54,448
Speaker 3: heard all about you.

650
00:30:54,928 --> 00:30:57,208
Speaker 2: And I was just like, oh, mate, I was just

651
00:30:57,248 --> 00:31:00,408
Speaker 2: like dude, and I tried to tell them the actual

652
00:31:00,488 --> 00:31:02,328
Speaker 2: story and they would not believe me.

653
00:31:03,168 --> 00:31:05,808
Speaker 3: I was just like so deflated.

654
00:31:05,928 --> 00:31:08,648
Speaker 2: I just like could not believe that someone can actually

655
00:31:08,648 --> 00:31:13,288
Speaker 2: get away with this. Fast forward maybe three more months.

656
00:31:13,608 --> 00:31:17,488
Speaker 2: He just continued to do it. He would just continue

657
00:31:17,528 --> 00:31:21,248
Speaker 2: to show up everywhere I was. I was so drained

658
00:31:21,408 --> 00:31:24,408
Speaker 2: by it all. He would just show up everywhere. I

659
00:31:24,488 --> 00:31:27,408
Speaker 2: wasn't able to fulfill what I wanted to do. I

660
00:31:27,448 --> 00:31:30,688
Speaker 2: couldn't really probably meet any guys because he was cock

661
00:31:30,728 --> 00:31:33,448
Speaker 2: blocking me and telling everyone that, like, if anyone goes

662
00:31:33,448 --> 00:31:35,768
Speaker 2: near me, he's going to bash them, that I'm crazy,

663
00:31:36,368 --> 00:31:39,168
Speaker 2: and by association, I was just I was so sick

664
00:31:39,208 --> 00:31:39,448
Speaker 2: of it.

665
00:31:39,528 --> 00:31:40,728
Speaker 3: I was so drained.

666
00:31:40,808 --> 00:31:44,408
Speaker 2: I ended up gaining like six kilos, Like I was

667
00:31:44,568 --> 00:31:48,728
Speaker 2: partying all the time when I actually went there to like,

668
00:31:49,248 --> 00:31:51,248
Speaker 2: I had gone there the best shape of my life.

669
00:31:51,288 --> 00:31:53,648
Speaker 2: You know, I'm an online fitness coach, like I still

670
00:31:54,208 --> 00:31:56,888
Speaker 2: did all of those things, but I got really depressed

671
00:31:56,928 --> 00:32:00,328
Speaker 2: over there because I genuinely had a stalker and for

672
00:32:00,488 --> 00:32:05,408
Speaker 2: so many months no one believed me. He was ruining

673
00:32:05,728 --> 00:32:10,208
Speaker 2: my life and ruining my reputation. And then one we

674
00:32:10,248 --> 00:32:15,088
Speaker 2: all had a Christmas party and again he wasn't invited,

675
00:32:15,168 --> 00:32:20,368
Speaker 2: but he just shows up, right, he's drunk off his face. Anyway,

676
00:32:20,408 --> 00:32:25,128
Speaker 2: he comes to the house and I'm talking to a guy.

677
00:32:26,008 --> 00:32:27,408
Speaker 3: He gets jealous.

678
00:32:27,488 --> 00:32:32,368
Speaker 2: Obviously, I decided to go upstairs and I hear this

679
00:32:32,568 --> 00:32:36,488
Speaker 2: big smash and I looked downstairs and Craig and my

680
00:32:36,608 --> 00:32:41,008
Speaker 2: friend are in a massive fight, massive fight, like full

681
00:32:41,048 --> 00:32:44,648
Speaker 2: punch on. I was obviously like, get off of my friend,

682
00:32:45,408 --> 00:32:46,368
Speaker 2: get off of him.

683
00:32:46,768 --> 00:32:50,008
Speaker 3: He was just like, fuck off, Gizelle off.

684
00:32:50,008 --> 00:32:55,168
Speaker 2: Everyone made the biggest embarrassment out of himself, like totally

685
00:32:55,328 --> 00:33:00,768
Speaker 2: showed his true colors finally, and everyone was obviously like, Okay,

686
00:33:00,848 --> 00:33:03,008
Speaker 2: you need to just settle down. My friend was just

687
00:33:03,088 --> 00:33:05,488
Speaker 2: so taken back, being like what did I even do?

688
00:33:05,848 --> 00:33:10,288
Speaker 2: I was literally just talking to Gizelle like he didn't

689
00:33:10,328 --> 00:33:11,808
Speaker 2: know much of the story at.

690
00:33:11,768 --> 00:33:13,368
Speaker 3: All, so he was so confused.

691
00:33:13,848 --> 00:33:16,968
Speaker 2: And then literally Craig just jumps over the table and

692
00:33:17,008 --> 00:33:19,928
Speaker 2: goes for round two, and everyone at this point was

693
00:33:19,968 --> 00:33:21,248
Speaker 2: just like, are you joking me?

694
00:33:21,608 --> 00:33:24,048
Speaker 3: This has just gotten out of hand. You need to leave.

695
00:33:24,648 --> 00:33:26,848
Speaker 3: And then that's when all of his friends and all

696
00:33:26,888 --> 00:33:27,768
Speaker 3: came full circle.

697
00:33:27,848 --> 00:33:32,128
Speaker 2: They were like, Okay, maybe we believe what you've been saying.

698
00:33:32,888 --> 00:33:37,288
Speaker 2: And then gradually, over the next couple of months, he

699
00:33:37,488 --> 00:33:40,048
Speaker 2: started to do things like I think he started to

700
00:33:40,128 --> 00:33:43,208
Speaker 2: just lose grip. He'd lost all of those friends because

701
00:33:43,248 --> 00:33:45,208
Speaker 2: he had done all of that kind of stuff, and

702
00:33:45,368 --> 00:33:49,288
Speaker 2: he started acting out, getting drunk on the scooter and driving.

703
00:33:49,288 --> 00:33:51,728
Speaker 2: These were all things that I was hearing from other people.

704
00:33:52,448 --> 00:33:56,248
Speaker 2: Getting drunk, driving on the scooter, crashing. He had lied

705
00:33:56,288 --> 00:33:58,528
Speaker 2: about his job, he didn't actually have his job. He'd

706
00:33:58,568 --> 00:34:00,088
Speaker 2: run out of all his crypto money.

707
00:34:00,728 --> 00:34:03,808
Speaker 1: And then something happened that officially went too far.

708
00:34:04,408 --> 00:34:09,448
Speaker 2: Remember Tiffany, she needed a house. She had nowhere to live.

709
00:34:09,768 --> 00:34:12,687
Speaker 2: She couldn't live with me. I didn't have room. You're

710
00:34:12,728 --> 00:34:15,968
Speaker 2: in another country. At the time, it was post COVID,

711
00:34:16,087 --> 00:34:19,047
Speaker 2: it was very hard to find a rental. She was

712
00:34:19,048 --> 00:34:23,567
Speaker 2: paying a lot of money staying at these homestays, and

713
00:34:23,768 --> 00:34:27,567
Speaker 2: at this point he moved into a house with a

714
00:34:27,568 --> 00:34:31,288
Speaker 2: couple of other people and offered the room.

715
00:34:31,368 --> 00:34:33,808
Speaker 3: To Tiffany Yep Craig.

716
00:34:34,288 --> 00:34:36,848
Speaker 2: It was really hard for her to be like, Okay,

717
00:34:37,048 --> 00:34:40,087
Speaker 2: do I choose my friendship with Giselle or do I

718
00:34:40,168 --> 00:34:43,647
Speaker 2: choose like having this house, so she moved in there.

719
00:34:46,568 --> 00:34:49,648
Speaker 2: I was just kind of dumbfounded by the whole entire situation.

720
00:34:49,808 --> 00:34:51,528
Speaker 2: I kind of felt like I was in a dream

721
00:34:51,608 --> 00:34:54,648
Speaker 2: and that I was just very hopeless, and it had

722
00:34:54,688 --> 00:34:58,848
Speaker 2: just gotten so far out of control it was insane,

723
00:34:59,208 --> 00:35:03,768
Speaker 2: and was now literally taking over not only my life

724
00:35:04,088 --> 00:35:07,968
Speaker 2: but now my friends, and putting her in a situation

725
00:35:08,088 --> 00:35:09,568
Speaker 2: and me in a situation.

726
00:35:09,128 --> 00:35:11,328
Speaker 3: Where we were vote very, very uncomfortable.

727
00:35:11,448 --> 00:35:14,768
Speaker 2: And that's when I was like, Okay, now I'm actually

728
00:35:14,848 --> 00:35:17,328
Speaker 2: scared of what he's capable of.

729
00:35:17,608 --> 00:35:18,488
Speaker 3: The manipulation.

730
00:35:19,328 --> 00:35:23,968
Speaker 2: Somehow, he had some type of power, and I needed.

731
00:35:23,648 --> 00:35:26,047
Speaker 3: To take that away from him. So I didn't really

732
00:35:26,128 --> 00:35:27,488
Speaker 3: know what he had planned.

733
00:35:28,008 --> 00:35:30,888
Speaker 2: Obviously I didn't have any contact with him, but obviously

734
00:35:30,968 --> 00:35:33,127
Speaker 2: had a plan to try and get closer to.

735
00:35:33,048 --> 00:35:36,528
Speaker 3: Me, and I was not going to let that happen.

736
00:35:37,248 --> 00:35:40,928
Speaker 2: I was to the point I had made enough connections

737
00:35:40,968 --> 00:35:44,688
Speaker 2: with people, and because he had done a few things,

738
00:35:45,328 --> 00:35:49,808
Speaker 2: I had the proof to then get him deported. So

739
00:35:49,888 --> 00:35:51,848
Speaker 2: it was something that obviously I didn't want to take

740
00:35:51,928 --> 00:35:54,608
Speaker 2: like lightly. It was going to take a few months,

741
00:35:54,928 --> 00:35:59,448
Speaker 2: but no one could really grasp the magnitude of what

742
00:35:59,728 --> 00:36:03,488
Speaker 2: he was doing because they're not living in your life

743
00:36:03,488 --> 00:36:06,567
Speaker 2: and in your position. They kind of dusted it under

744
00:36:06,608 --> 00:36:09,288
Speaker 2: the rug a little bit, and he obviously said a

745
00:36:09,288 --> 00:36:11,968
Speaker 2: lot of life, so I think a lot.

746
00:36:11,808 --> 00:36:14,088
Speaker 3: Of people didn't really know what to believe.

747
00:36:14,368 --> 00:36:17,128
Speaker 2: So when I was like, I'm going to get him deported,

748
00:36:17,688 --> 00:36:20,808
Speaker 2: people almost were like, you're being dramatic, and I was like,

749
00:36:21,128 --> 00:36:22,208
Speaker 2: are you joking me?

750
00:36:22,568 --> 00:36:25,888
Speaker 3: Have you had someone stalky to BALI? No. A lot

751
00:36:25,928 --> 00:36:27,488
Speaker 3: of my friends.

752
00:36:27,088 --> 00:36:30,728
Speaker 2: Felt very sorry for him, which I understand, and then

753
00:36:30,768 --> 00:36:33,527
Speaker 2: the other half of like, one hundred percent, you need

754
00:36:33,568 --> 00:36:37,567
Speaker 2: to do this. So to get someone deported you have

755
00:36:37,648 --> 00:36:40,128
Speaker 2: to come up with a lot of evidence about this person.

756
00:36:40,448 --> 00:36:44,448
Speaker 2: I had to obviously show screenshots of our conversations. I

757
00:36:44,488 --> 00:36:48,567
Speaker 2: had to have proof of him rocking up to places, witnesses,

758
00:36:49,128 --> 00:36:51,128
Speaker 2: and then in the long run, I'm not going to

759
00:36:51,168 --> 00:36:56,128
Speaker 2: lie because of how drained I was from him and

760
00:36:56,168 --> 00:37:01,928
Speaker 2: the whole situation. Going through another thing like deporting someone

761
00:37:01,968 --> 00:37:06,607
Speaker 2: from a country was just too much for me. I

762
00:37:06,648 --> 00:37:09,567
Speaker 2: had missed my family. As I said before, I had

763
00:37:10,168 --> 00:37:14,448
Speaker 2: so much weight. I just wasn't myself. I was constantly partying,

764
00:37:14,688 --> 00:37:17,527
Speaker 2: and I wasn't really doing what I had planned to

765
00:37:17,608 --> 00:37:22,087
Speaker 2: do over there. So after a couple of months of

766
00:37:22,088 --> 00:37:24,607
Speaker 2: being like, yes, I'm one hundred percent doing this, I'm

767
00:37:24,648 --> 00:37:27,448
Speaker 2: getting him out and then I can start over, I

768
00:37:27,488 --> 00:37:31,448
Speaker 2: think there was too much damage done now that I

769
00:37:31,728 --> 00:37:34,448
Speaker 2: just pulled the pin and I moved.

770
00:37:34,928 --> 00:37:37,808
Speaker 3: I just one day got up. I had enough.

771
00:37:39,448 --> 00:37:41,848
Speaker 2: When I had gone home, it was a mixed bag

772
00:37:41,888 --> 00:37:42,567
Speaker 2: of emotions.

773
00:37:42,688 --> 00:37:45,248
Speaker 3: I was relieved, I was also very sad.

774
00:37:45,648 --> 00:37:45,848
Speaker 2: You know.

775
00:37:45,848 --> 00:37:47,688
Speaker 3: I didn't want to leave my brother. I didn't want

776
00:37:47,688 --> 00:37:48,448
Speaker 3: to leave my life.

777
00:37:48,448 --> 00:37:52,688
Speaker 2: And until I got home, I actually realized how much

778
00:37:53,248 --> 00:37:57,608
Speaker 2: he had taken from me, and it was really so crushing.

779
00:37:58,328 --> 00:38:01,728
Speaker 2: And then it was just months of being drained and

780
00:38:02,608 --> 00:38:06,008
Speaker 2: not really understanding or realizing what was going on because

781
00:38:06,088 --> 00:38:08,368
Speaker 2: I was so new to a new country that you're

782
00:38:08,408 --> 00:38:12,488
Speaker 2: trying to gauge where you're at and where to go

783
00:38:12,688 --> 00:38:15,768
Speaker 2: and how to navigate this new life. And then on

784
00:38:15,808 --> 00:38:20,168
Speaker 2: top of that having someone physically trying to stalk you,

785
00:38:20,448 --> 00:38:24,527
Speaker 2: and it was honestly heartbreaking. Like I came back a

786
00:38:24,568 --> 00:38:28,928
Speaker 2: totally different person. I remember telling everyone that I completely

787
00:38:28,968 --> 00:38:32,448
Speaker 2: lost myself, which was true, and when I got home,

788
00:38:32,488 --> 00:38:35,968
Speaker 2: I realized that and I had to completely start over.

789
00:38:36,768 --> 00:38:40,888
Speaker 2: So when I got home, I just moved straight in

790
00:38:41,088 --> 00:38:45,127
Speaker 2: with my mum. I wasn't in a horrible situation financially,

791
00:38:45,248 --> 00:38:49,288
Speaker 2: I was just mentally really messed up. But I just

792
00:38:49,368 --> 00:38:52,488
Speaker 2: totally took it to my advantage and was like, you

793
00:38:52,528 --> 00:38:55,888
Speaker 2: know what, I'm back in Australia now. He is no

794
00:38:55,968 --> 00:38:58,288
Speaker 2: longer in my life. I knew that he wanted to

795
00:38:58,328 --> 00:39:00,768
Speaker 2: stay there because everyone had told me that. He was

796
00:39:00,808 --> 00:39:03,408
Speaker 2: like very grateful for the fact that I didn't get

797
00:39:03,488 --> 00:39:06,168
Speaker 2: him reported, so he was like I'm done. You know,

798
00:39:06,208 --> 00:39:08,288
Speaker 2: I'm going to leave her alone now because I think

799
00:39:08,288 --> 00:39:11,728
Speaker 2: that really scared him. So I had basically just done

800
00:39:11,808 --> 00:39:14,448
Speaker 2: him a favor, so I was sort of like, Okay,

801
00:39:14,528 --> 00:39:15,928
Speaker 2: this has to be done now.

802
00:39:16,248 --> 00:39:18,608
Speaker 1: It was devastating that it had come to this, but

803
00:39:18,848 --> 00:39:21,047
Speaker 1: with Craig out of the picture and the support of

804
00:39:21,048 --> 00:39:23,727
Speaker 1: her family and old friends back at home, she picked

805
00:39:23,728 --> 00:39:26,128
Speaker 1: herself up and it didn't take long for her to

806
00:39:26,168 --> 00:39:27,368
Speaker 1: start to thrive again.

807
00:39:27,848 --> 00:39:31,408
Speaker 2: I moved home, I started my own business, I moved

808
00:39:31,488 --> 00:39:35,848
Speaker 2: into a new house, literally two months after I met

809
00:39:35,848 --> 00:39:38,448
Speaker 2: my now partner that I've been together with for two

810
00:39:38,528 --> 00:39:39,328
Speaker 2: and a half years.

811
00:39:39,728 --> 00:39:41,288
Speaker 3: I have a gordgeous bullderg.

812
00:39:41,888 --> 00:39:44,527
Speaker 2: I have an amazing life, honest to God, like it's

813
00:39:44,568 --> 00:39:45,047
Speaker 2: so good.

814
00:39:45,368 --> 00:39:47,688
Speaker 3: I'm the strongest and fittest that I've ever been.

815
00:39:47,728 --> 00:39:51,168
Speaker 2: Now I've learnt so much from that though, Like even

816
00:39:51,208 --> 00:39:51,808
Speaker 2: living in.

817
00:39:51,728 --> 00:39:54,288
Speaker 3: Bali was crazy itself.

818
00:39:54,568 --> 00:39:57,968
Speaker 2: It's not as sunshine and roses as everyone thinks. You

819
00:39:58,008 --> 00:40:00,888
Speaker 2: are living in a third world country. So moving back

820
00:40:00,928 --> 00:40:05,167
Speaker 2: to Australia made me realize how grateful I was for

821
00:40:05,288 --> 00:40:09,488
Speaker 2: my life, and that in itself completely changed my perspective

822
00:40:09,928 --> 00:40:10,848
Speaker 2: on life.

823
00:40:11,288 --> 00:40:14,168
Speaker 3: Not play the victim could have been a lot worse.

824
00:40:14,728 --> 00:40:17,888
Speaker 2: And you have to lose yourself to find yourself sometimes,

825
00:40:17,888 --> 00:40:21,288
Speaker 2: and that's inevitably what I did. Bali it self shaped me,

826
00:40:21,488 --> 00:40:25,888
Speaker 2: and then the situation with Craig as well made me

827
00:40:26,128 --> 00:40:29,608
Speaker 2: even more resilient. And I definitely wouldn't be the person

828
00:40:29,648 --> 00:40:33,608
Speaker 2: that I am now unless that situation happened. And also

829
00:40:34,248 --> 00:40:38,008
Speaker 2: now I know what it's like to have someone that's

830
00:40:38,408 --> 00:40:42,608
Speaker 2: infatuated with you, obsessed with you. All of these signs

831
00:40:42,608 --> 00:40:45,087
Speaker 2: and all of these red flags are things that I'm

832
00:40:45,128 --> 00:40:47,607
Speaker 2: never going to tolerate. And I don't think I would

833
00:40:47,648 --> 00:40:49,968
Speaker 2: have found my now partner that treats me like a

834
00:40:50,048 --> 00:40:53,808
Speaker 2: queen unless I picked up on all of these things.

835
00:40:53,808 --> 00:40:57,168
Speaker 2: And then I just decided I wasn't going to allow

836
00:40:57,568 --> 00:41:01,088
Speaker 2: that shit to continue on into my now relationship.

837
00:41:01,808 --> 00:41:05,328
Speaker 3: And I'm just so grateful that I went through that.

838
00:41:05,408 --> 00:41:09,167
Speaker 2: I suppose now, looking back a couple years later after

839
00:41:09,248 --> 00:41:13,488
Speaker 2: it happened, I genuinely realize how bad it was and

840
00:41:13,528 --> 00:41:16,208
Speaker 2: how messed up it was. And I really want people

841
00:41:16,248 --> 00:41:20,248
Speaker 2: and women especially to understand when they are with someone

842
00:41:20,328 --> 00:41:23,248
Speaker 2: that's a narcissist, that's like a love bomber, but not

843
00:41:23,288 --> 00:41:26,208
Speaker 2: even a love bombit someone that's just infatuated with you,

844
00:41:26,888 --> 00:41:31,808
Speaker 2: that gives you everything, but they are completely crossing your

845
00:41:31,848 --> 00:41:36,928
Speaker 2: boundaries and just giving them these signs that maybe they

846
00:41:37,048 --> 00:41:43,567
Speaker 2: need to really reflect on who they're with and not

847
00:41:43,688 --> 00:41:46,527
Speaker 2: jump into things as quickly as I did, because we

848
00:41:46,608 --> 00:41:49,528
Speaker 2: literally met one day and the next we were basically

849
00:41:49,528 --> 00:41:53,288
Speaker 2: seeing each other, and it's better to just take things

850
00:41:53,328 --> 00:41:56,728
Speaker 2: slow and to really really.

851
00:41:56,328 --> 00:41:58,528
Speaker 3: Do your research on these people.

852
00:42:00,568 --> 00:42:04,048
Speaker 2: If I look back at it, it really was horrendous,

853
00:42:04,168 --> 00:42:08,607
Speaker 2: and at times, even me, someone that's incredibly resilient and

854
00:42:09,168 --> 00:42:11,688
Speaker 2: can get my out of anything. I found myself in

855
00:42:11,728 --> 00:42:14,408
Speaker 2: a position that I was completely powerless, And to think

856
00:42:14,448 --> 00:42:18,128
Speaker 2: about people that are in these situations that haven't had

857
00:42:18,208 --> 00:42:20,768
Speaker 2: maybe the resources that I've had, and haven't had the

858
00:42:20,848 --> 00:42:23,488
Speaker 2: upbringing I have had that have made me such a

859
00:42:23,488 --> 00:42:27,888
Speaker 2: strong person. I kin't even imagine what these other women

860
00:42:28,128 --> 00:42:31,527
Speaker 2: and these situations that they are going through where they

861
00:42:31,528 --> 00:42:35,728
Speaker 2: feel completely unheard as well, no one believes them that

862
00:42:35,848 --> 00:42:40,208
Speaker 2: they're alone, and this happens more often than it should,

863
00:42:40,568 --> 00:42:43,488
Speaker 2: and it happens just like nearly nally without even you

864
00:42:43,528 --> 00:42:48,167
Speaker 2: knowing as well. And I just hope that girls can

865
00:42:48,408 --> 00:42:51,488
Speaker 2: be safe out there because it's scary, and stalking is

866
00:42:51,608 --> 00:42:55,688
Speaker 2: actual criminal offense and it can end lives. It has,

867
00:42:55,728 --> 00:42:58,768
Speaker 2: and I'm just so grateful that it didn't mine another

868
00:42:58,848 --> 00:42:59,888
Speaker 2: lesson that I've learned.

869
00:43:00,448 --> 00:43:03,488
Speaker 3: If multiple of your friends are saying things to you.

870
00:43:03,448 --> 00:43:05,488
Speaker 2: I'm so lucky that I did have a lot of

871
00:43:05,488 --> 00:43:08,288
Speaker 2: friends sort of say early on that they felt comfortable

872
00:43:08,368 --> 00:43:10,968
Speaker 2: saying that to me, and that I genuinely did listen

873
00:43:11,008 --> 00:43:14,848
Speaker 2: to them. Not that it obviously you couldn't change what

874
00:43:15,008 --> 00:43:18,608
Speaker 2: was going to happen, but you definitely need to listen

875
00:43:18,648 --> 00:43:22,048
Speaker 2: to your friends, especially if there's a magnitude of friends

876
00:43:22,288 --> 00:43:24,688
Speaker 2: telling you this person isn't.

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Speaker 3: Right for you. You really really need.

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Speaker 2: To understand that this could be unsafe and that the

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Speaker 2: people that care about you are only doing it because

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Speaker 2: they care about you, and that you should probably listen

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Speaker 2: to them. And for the people that are in these situations,

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Speaker 2: you can get out of it.

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Speaker 3: You can. You just have to be open to that help.

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Speaker 2: I suppose, and I know a lot of people also

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Speaker 2: in these situations are scared to tell their friend because

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Speaker 2: they're scared that that friend isn't going to believe them,

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Speaker 2: and I've been there, but you're better off telling them regardless,

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Speaker 2: because if they end up in a horrible situation like

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Speaker 2: what I have, you're going to regret that. And the

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Speaker 2: chances are that if they are your friend, they will

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Speaker 2: believe you.

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