1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:18,194 Speaker 1: You're listening to a Mom with mea podcast. 2 00:00:15,914 --> 00:00:19,794 Speaker 2: High Out Louders. Today is not a regular record day, 3 00:00:19,954 --> 00:00:22,554 Speaker 2: so we are giving you a special little treat for 4 00:00:22,594 --> 00:00:26,074 Speaker 2: your Monday instead. Some of you have been back at 5 00:00:26,114 --> 00:00:29,834 Speaker 2: your desks for a few weeks, while others are hanging 6 00:00:29,874 --> 00:00:33,434 Speaker 2: on by a thread through the final days of school holidays. 7 00:00:34,034 --> 00:00:37,514 Speaker 2: But either way, we are all staring down the barrel 8 00:00:37,714 --> 00:00:41,034 Speaker 2: of another year. So I wanted to share a conversation 9 00:00:41,354 --> 00:00:44,873 Speaker 2: that I had recently with Amelia Lester and Claire Murphy, 10 00:00:45,434 --> 00:00:49,993 Speaker 2: and we deep dived into the simple, actually doable hacks 11 00:00:50,193 --> 00:00:50,993 Speaker 2: that might. 12 00:00:51,193 --> 00:00:54,914 Speaker 1: Just transform your working life. I am obsessed with this stuff. 13 00:00:55,354 --> 00:00:58,954 Speaker 2: Claire and Amelia work so differently to me, have worked 14 00:00:58,954 --> 00:01:02,353 Speaker 2: in so many different workplaces, and so to get their wisdom, 15 00:01:02,514 --> 00:01:04,874 Speaker 2: I felt like, really set me up for twenty twenty 16 00:01:04,914 --> 00:01:10,434 Speaker 2: six plus Vernon. Claire Murphy and I had a hilarious 17 00:01:10,514 --> 00:01:14,514 Speaker 2: chat about some of the social media channels we love 18 00:01:14,594 --> 00:01:18,154 Speaker 2: scrolling late at night when we should be sleeping, just 19 00:01:18,194 --> 00:01:21,194 Speaker 2: some of the weird stuff that we come across, some 20 00:01:21,394 --> 00:01:25,554 Speaker 2: very helpful, some very funny. It's the niche, oddly satisfying 21 00:01:25,554 --> 00:01:27,834 Speaker 2: content you didn't know you needed. It's fun it's a 22 00:01:27,874 --> 00:01:30,474 Speaker 2: bit weird and we are into it. We hope you 23 00:01:30,634 --> 00:01:33,514 Speaker 2: enjoy Hello out Ladders. 24 00:01:33,634 --> 00:01:38,234 Speaker 3: Today I am joined by Jesse Stevens Hello and Claire Murphy. Hi. 25 00:01:38,874 --> 00:01:40,354 Speaker 3: What I want to talk about today is something that 26 00:01:40,394 --> 00:01:44,274 Speaker 3: I hope will be very practical and useful and helpful 27 00:01:44,714 --> 00:01:47,474 Speaker 3: for listeners who feel like they have too many things 28 00:01:47,474 --> 00:01:51,354 Speaker 3: to do. I'm sure that's no one, but I want 29 00:01:51,394 --> 00:01:54,954 Speaker 3: to talk about simple habits that can transform our working lives. 30 00:01:54,954 --> 00:01:56,514 Speaker 3: And the reason I want to talk about that is 31 00:01:56,554 --> 00:01:59,034 Speaker 3: that there was an article in Stylist recently, which is 32 00:01:59,034 --> 00:02:01,754 Speaker 3: a British magazine. It asked a bunch of women for 33 00:02:01,794 --> 00:02:07,034 Speaker 3: their best productivity hacks. And I absolutely love a productivity hair. 34 00:02:07,394 --> 00:02:10,113 Speaker 3: I know you've got some, Jesse and Claire, I don't 35 00:02:10,114 --> 00:02:12,994 Speaker 3: see how you do everything you do without some productivity access. 36 00:02:13,073 --> 00:02:15,474 Speaker 3: So I'm desperate to dive in. But let me first 37 00:02:15,514 --> 00:02:18,594 Speaker 3: share a few of my favorites from the article. A 38 00:02:18,634 --> 00:02:21,914 Speaker 3: woman named Rosanna says that on Sunday she writes all 39 00:02:21,954 --> 00:02:24,834 Speaker 3: of her outcomes for the week ahead down on a 40 00:02:24,834 --> 00:02:27,594 Speaker 3: piece of paper, ideally three and she says it's not 41 00:02:27,634 --> 00:02:29,913 Speaker 3: a to do list, it's more like anchors. It could 42 00:02:29,954 --> 00:02:34,154 Speaker 3: be like brainstorming a new project, or deepening a relationship 43 00:02:34,194 --> 00:02:37,514 Speaker 3: with a client, or making progress in a long term idea, 44 00:02:37,754 --> 00:02:39,514 Speaker 3: and she says it really helps her to focus on 45 00:02:39,554 --> 00:02:41,874 Speaker 3: what actually moves the needle in her life and in 46 00:02:41,914 --> 00:02:44,194 Speaker 3: her working life, rather than just engaging in the busy 47 00:02:44,194 --> 00:02:45,474 Speaker 3: work of clearing out your inbox. 48 00:02:45,594 --> 00:02:47,874 Speaker 2: I like that because I reckon that those big ones, 49 00:02:47,914 --> 00:02:49,994 Speaker 2: they're the ones you never get to. You never get 50 00:02:49,994 --> 00:02:51,714 Speaker 2: to the big ones because you're doing all the little 51 00:02:52,034 --> 00:02:54,073 Speaker 2: kind of the prioritizing so hardbits. 52 00:02:54,194 --> 00:02:56,834 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you will do the easy stuff first, always right. 53 00:02:57,034 --> 00:03:00,754 Speaker 3: Yes, Gina goes for a walk at lunchtime every single day. 54 00:03:00,794 --> 00:03:02,754 Speaker 3: I would hate to do that. Lunchtime is for me 55 00:03:02,874 --> 00:03:05,274 Speaker 3: to go down reddit rabbit holes. It is not to 56 00:03:05,314 --> 00:03:08,274 Speaker 3: get fresh air and exercise. But you, you, Gina. She 57 00:03:08,474 --> 00:03:11,154 Speaker 3: says that it keeps her saying, she doesn't wear headphones, 58 00:03:11,314 --> 00:03:12,034 Speaker 3: she doesn't even. 59 00:03:11,914 --> 00:03:13,954 Speaker 1: Take her She raw dogs a walk. 60 00:03:14,314 --> 00:03:16,594 Speaker 3: She raw dogs a walk, and she says the point 61 00:03:16,634 --> 00:03:18,754 Speaker 3: is to empty your brain and it makes her sharper 62 00:03:18,754 --> 00:03:20,714 Speaker 3: for the afternoon, to which I say, that is the 63 00:03:20,714 --> 00:03:24,314 Speaker 3: point of coffee. But again, Gina, I commend you. And 64 00:03:24,354 --> 00:03:27,234 Speaker 3: then Alice, she does her hair and makeup even on 65 00:03:27,314 --> 00:03:28,594 Speaker 3: work from home days. 66 00:03:29,474 --> 00:03:30,674 Speaker 2: That's really smart. 67 00:03:31,074 --> 00:03:33,674 Speaker 3: That's really smart. I find that when I do put 68 00:03:33,674 --> 00:03:36,754 Speaker 3: on hard pants at home to work as opposed to 69 00:03:36,834 --> 00:03:39,594 Speaker 3: my pajamas, I do feel like it sort of revs 70 00:03:39,634 --> 00:03:40,314 Speaker 3: my brain up. 71 00:03:40,234 --> 00:03:40,634 Speaker 2: A little bit. 72 00:03:40,754 --> 00:03:42,954 Speaker 1: I love the definition of hard pants. I knew exactly 73 00:03:42,954 --> 00:03:43,834 Speaker 1: what you were talking. 74 00:03:43,634 --> 00:03:45,394 Speaker 4: About, Jesse. 75 00:03:45,674 --> 00:03:47,354 Speaker 3: Hit me, what are your productivity secrets? 76 00:03:47,714 --> 00:03:49,234 Speaker 2: I collect these? 77 00:03:49,434 --> 00:03:51,834 Speaker 3: This This is what you have a Google doc, don't you. 78 00:03:51,874 --> 00:03:53,714 Speaker 3: But she've been keeping since you were talking. Oh? 79 00:03:53,754 --> 00:03:56,914 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I feel like I'm one productivity hack away 80 00:03:56,954 --> 00:03:57,554 Speaker 2: from nailing it. 81 00:03:58,074 --> 00:04:00,594 Speaker 3: You know, you've been such a slacker so far, the 82 00:04:00,754 --> 00:04:02,034 Speaker 3: two books and everything. 83 00:04:02,154 --> 00:04:04,914 Speaker 2: You just like it's going to be one app that 84 00:04:04,994 --> 00:04:08,234 Speaker 2: someone suggests that I go. There we go. Everything falls 85 00:04:08,234 --> 00:04:11,434 Speaker 2: into place. The big one that I have recommended on 86 00:04:11,474 --> 00:04:15,274 Speaker 2: the show is the app I use, which is to dost, Which. 87 00:04:15,074 --> 00:04:16,113 Speaker 1: Okay, why do I need that? 88 00:04:16,113 --> 00:04:17,394 Speaker 3: Why can't I use the notes Up? 89 00:04:17,594 --> 00:04:20,354 Speaker 2: The reason I really like it Firstly, it's free. Secondly, 90 00:04:20,553 --> 00:04:21,313 Speaker 2: I've got it up. 91 00:04:21,394 --> 00:04:22,274 Speaker 1: This is what I needed. 92 00:04:22,394 --> 00:04:24,674 Speaker 2: I need it up on all my computers, Like I've 93 00:04:24,674 --> 00:04:26,433 Speaker 2: got a home computer, I've got my one at work, 94 00:04:26,474 --> 00:04:28,674 Speaker 2: and I've got my phone. I need it on all 95 00:04:28,714 --> 00:04:31,033 Speaker 2: of them. What I was struggling with was when my 96 00:04:31,154 --> 00:04:33,433 Speaker 2: list is only on my phone, or it's only on 97 00:04:33,474 --> 00:04:37,313 Speaker 2: my computer and it's got tabs. So I've got my 98 00:04:38,034 --> 00:04:40,873 Speaker 2: work one. We've also got our grocery list on there. 99 00:04:40,953 --> 00:04:42,553 Speaker 2: Luca and I have a shared one that we can 100 00:04:42,873 --> 00:04:47,553 Speaker 2: throw things on. I need no resistance between Literally, i 101 00:04:47,714 --> 00:04:49,633 Speaker 2: will be in the shower and go, oh my god, 102 00:04:49,633 --> 00:04:51,234 Speaker 2: I forgot to do that thing, and I've just got 103 00:04:51,234 --> 00:04:54,034 Speaker 2: to jot it down immediately, or as I'm drifting off 104 00:04:54,073 --> 00:04:56,713 Speaker 2: to sleep, and it needs to be connected to everything, 105 00:04:56,753 --> 00:04:58,753 Speaker 2: and then I just tick it off as I go. 106 00:04:59,113 --> 00:05:02,234 Speaker 2: That app has changed my life. I really like it. 107 00:05:02,714 --> 00:05:04,833 Speaker 2: I've used other ones that are just too complicated. I 108 00:05:04,914 --> 00:05:07,633 Speaker 2: just need my list In saying that, I find it 109 00:05:07,714 --> 00:05:11,913 Speaker 2: really helpful sometimes because I'll have a bunch and sometimes 110 00:05:11,953 --> 00:05:14,834 Speaker 2: their work and sometimes they're at home if I walk 111 00:05:14,873 --> 00:05:17,234 Speaker 2: in on a Monday morning or whatever, and I like 112 00:05:17,313 --> 00:05:19,993 Speaker 2: to write it with a pen like I like to go, no, 113 00:05:20,113 --> 00:05:22,474 Speaker 2: these are the five things I really need to do today, 114 00:05:22,553 --> 00:05:24,714 Speaker 2: and then put a line through them. I feel like 115 00:05:24,753 --> 00:05:27,273 Speaker 2: that helps me mentally. Do you guys have any apps 116 00:05:27,714 --> 00:05:29,433 Speaker 2: like that you find help with productivity? 117 00:05:29,594 --> 00:05:33,113 Speaker 1: I am the opposite in that I have never kept 118 00:05:33,154 --> 00:05:38,833 Speaker 1: a digital record other than my email inbox as any 119 00:05:38,914 --> 00:05:41,794 Speaker 1: kind of form of help to make sure I've ticked 120 00:05:41,794 --> 00:05:42,433 Speaker 1: off all the things. 121 00:05:42,474 --> 00:05:44,993 Speaker 2: How about your calendar? Are you good with your calendar? 122 00:05:45,113 --> 00:05:47,873 Speaker 1: I am good with my calendar, but that's because other people, 123 00:05:48,113 --> 00:05:50,553 Speaker 1: my colleagues, are putting things in there for me as 124 00:05:50,594 --> 00:05:52,914 Speaker 1: well as me putting things in there. So that's how 125 00:05:52,953 --> 00:05:55,313 Speaker 1: they heard the cat, if you want to put it 126 00:05:55,313 --> 00:05:58,914 Speaker 1: that way. But I am a believer in writing things 127 00:05:59,034 --> 00:06:01,833 Speaker 1: down physically, old school. I can't remember where I read it, 128 00:06:01,873 --> 00:06:05,234 Speaker 1: but many years ago I read that physically writing something 129 00:06:05,313 --> 00:06:09,394 Speaker 1: down actually cements more in your brain than typing something. 130 00:06:09,953 --> 00:06:12,313 Speaker 1: So if you can physically write it down, your brain 131 00:06:12,354 --> 00:06:14,273 Speaker 1: is making some kind of connection where it's stored a 132 00:06:14,274 --> 00:06:17,674 Speaker 1: little bit better, so it's easier to recall it. So 133 00:06:17,714 --> 00:06:20,594 Speaker 1: for me, physical pen and paper. And it's funny walking 134 00:06:20,633 --> 00:06:23,313 Speaker 1: into meetings at MMA MIA because like, if there is 135 00:06:23,393 --> 00:06:26,153 Speaker 1: a symbol of what it's like to work at Mamma MIA, 136 00:06:26,313 --> 00:06:29,234 Speaker 1: it is like the silhouette of a woman carrying a 137 00:06:29,313 --> 00:06:31,914 Speaker 1: laptop that is what the office looks, balancing on the 138 00:06:31,953 --> 00:06:34,593 Speaker 1: forum on the forearm with their coffee in the other 139 00:06:34,674 --> 00:06:37,234 Speaker 1: That is what Mama Mia looks like. And so there's 140 00:06:37,274 --> 00:06:39,713 Speaker 1: all these people wandering into meetings carrying their laptop. I'm 141 00:06:39,714 --> 00:06:42,873 Speaker 1: the only one with like a notebook and a pen, 142 00:06:43,113 --> 00:06:45,274 Speaker 1: which makes me sound like I'm a million years old. 143 00:06:45,393 --> 00:06:47,394 Speaker 1: I'm not. But it's the best way for me to 144 00:06:47,714 --> 00:06:50,153 Speaker 1: remember anything. And then I've got notes I can refer 145 00:06:50,193 --> 00:06:53,634 Speaker 1: to that can't be automatically suddenly deleted or logged out 146 00:06:53,674 --> 00:06:57,513 Speaker 1: of or lost in a phone move. Like they're physically 147 00:06:57,553 --> 00:07:00,553 Speaker 1: tangible for me. And I take my notebook with me everywhere. 148 00:07:01,154 --> 00:07:03,594 Speaker 2: Interesting, how about you, Amelia. 149 00:07:03,154 --> 00:07:06,313 Speaker 3: Yeah, so mine's a little bit related to that. Taylor 150 00:07:06,433 --> 00:07:09,074 Speaker 3: Swift gave some advice recently that I was thinking about. 151 00:07:09,594 --> 00:07:12,274 Speaker 3: I mean, she's very successful and productive. 152 00:07:12,714 --> 00:07:15,154 Speaker 1: Listen to anyone you should be listening to me exactly. 153 00:07:15,274 --> 00:07:17,554 Speaker 3: This was on the podcast that she did with Travis 154 00:07:17,594 --> 00:07:20,554 Speaker 3: Kelsey just before they got engaged, and she said, your 155 00:07:20,674 --> 00:07:23,833 Speaker 3: energy is expensive. Treat it like a luxury item that 156 00:07:23,953 --> 00:07:27,074 Speaker 3: not everyone can afford. What you spend your energy on, 157 00:07:27,314 --> 00:07:30,994 Speaker 3: that's your day. So the reason or the big thing 158 00:07:31,034 --> 00:07:33,914 Speaker 3: I took from that is the idea of when you 159 00:07:33,953 --> 00:07:36,034 Speaker 3: spend a lot of energy on something that should be 160 00:07:36,074 --> 00:07:38,914 Speaker 3: the most important thing, that you do that day, So 161 00:07:39,994 --> 00:07:43,394 Speaker 3: that means like, don't do the inbox at nine am. 162 00:07:43,554 --> 00:07:45,554 Speaker 3: Another way of thinking about this is eat the frog. 163 00:07:45,634 --> 00:07:48,554 Speaker 3: You're meant to do the like hard challenging task that 164 00:07:48,634 --> 00:07:52,154 Speaker 3: actually stimulates your brain. First thing. If that's when your 165 00:07:52,194 --> 00:07:54,634 Speaker 3: best or if you're best late at night, do the 166 00:07:54,674 --> 00:07:58,114 Speaker 3: most important task then and then. One way I ensure 167 00:07:58,194 --> 00:08:01,994 Speaker 3: that my life energies are being distributed correctly is that 168 00:08:02,074 --> 00:08:05,674 Speaker 3: I have a paper diary, just like you, Claire, and 169 00:08:05,874 --> 00:08:07,953 Speaker 3: I like to look at the whole month. I actually 170 00:08:07,953 --> 00:08:10,554 Speaker 3: just used the first few pages of this diary because 171 00:08:10,594 --> 00:08:13,474 Speaker 3: I just look month by month, and particularly when I'm 172 00:08:13,474 --> 00:08:17,114 Speaker 3: trying to integrate like family commitments with work commitments, if 173 00:08:17,154 --> 00:08:18,834 Speaker 3: you can see the month at a glance, you can 174 00:08:18,874 --> 00:08:21,074 Speaker 3: tell instantly like, Okay, this is a month where I 175 00:08:21,074 --> 00:08:22,393 Speaker 3: have a lot of work to do. Well, this is 176 00:08:22,393 --> 00:08:23,954 Speaker 3: a month where I've got a lot of stuff with. 177 00:08:24,154 --> 00:08:25,793 Speaker 1: Which you can't on my calendar. 178 00:08:25,794 --> 00:08:27,514 Speaker 2: I have no sense until I get to it and 179 00:08:27,554 --> 00:08:29,953 Speaker 2: I go, how did I end up having something every 180 00:08:29,994 --> 00:08:30,474 Speaker 2: night this week? 181 00:08:30,554 --> 00:08:32,594 Speaker 3: Yeah? Exactly, And so like you can be like, oh, 182 00:08:32,634 --> 00:08:34,514 Speaker 3: I'm going out too many times that week, I need 183 00:08:34,514 --> 00:08:36,914 Speaker 3: to change that or whatever, and so I just like 184 00:08:36,994 --> 00:08:41,034 Speaker 3: the idea of being very diligent and aware of where 185 00:08:41,154 --> 00:08:44,634 Speaker 3: I am giving my energy and being able to at 186 00:08:44,674 --> 00:08:46,634 Speaker 3: a glance tell where I'm distributing it. 187 00:08:46,994 --> 00:08:50,234 Speaker 2: I saw something on Substack recently that said, I feel 188 00:08:50,234 --> 00:08:54,594 Speaker 2: like everyone is twenty Pomodoros from achieving their dream, and 189 00:08:54,634 --> 00:08:57,514 Speaker 2: I thought that is so accurate. We've talked about the 190 00:08:57,514 --> 00:09:00,554 Speaker 2: Pomodoro method before on this show, which is setting your 191 00:09:00,594 --> 00:09:03,634 Speaker 2: time up. It changes for everyone, but I do like, say, 192 00:09:03,674 --> 00:09:06,034 Speaker 2: twenty minutes, and then once you're in anything for twenty minutes, 193 00:09:06,074 --> 00:09:09,474 Speaker 2: it's not so painful. How you wrote your books, Yeah, yeah, timer. 194 00:09:09,754 --> 00:09:12,714 Speaker 2: So I still if there's a job that I really 195 00:09:12,714 --> 00:09:15,474 Speaker 2: don't want to do that i'm finding I'm resisting, I'll 196 00:09:15,474 --> 00:09:18,074 Speaker 2: go I can do anything for twenty minutes, and then 197 00:09:18,114 --> 00:09:19,953 Speaker 2: I set the timer. I don't look at it like 198 00:09:19,994 --> 00:09:22,554 Speaker 2: I've got it out of reach. And my test is 199 00:09:22,594 --> 00:09:24,554 Speaker 2: that I don't really want to look at it until it's, 200 00:09:24,594 --> 00:09:25,554 Speaker 2: you know, twenty. 201 00:09:25,274 --> 00:09:26,034 Speaker 1: Five or something. 202 00:09:26,434 --> 00:09:31,154 Speaker 2: And so doing those small installments I find really helps. 203 00:09:31,234 --> 00:09:34,874 Speaker 2: And I think what changed my relationship to that was 204 00:09:35,034 --> 00:09:38,474 Speaker 2: caw Newport's work on Deep Work. He writes a lot 205 00:09:38,594 --> 00:09:43,354 Speaker 2: about the cost of interruptions throughout a workday, which I 206 00:09:43,474 --> 00:09:45,674 Speaker 2: find I'm one of those people that needs to work 207 00:09:45,674 --> 00:09:50,474 Speaker 2: in silence, Like I find any sort of concentration is 208 00:09:50,514 --> 00:09:53,954 Speaker 2: incompatible with an open plan office, so having my headphones 209 00:09:53,994 --> 00:09:56,794 Speaker 2: on and having white noise, some people do brown noise 210 00:09:56,794 --> 00:09:59,354 Speaker 2: whatever to just have a bit of silence and to 211 00:09:59,434 --> 00:10:02,594 Speaker 2: go pink noise, like I almost have to go this 212 00:10:02,754 --> 00:10:06,994 Speaker 2: is deep work time, because treating stuff that really needs 213 00:10:07,714 --> 00:10:11,114 Speaker 2: thinking and marinating as though it's just another thing to 214 00:10:11,154 --> 00:10:13,794 Speaker 2: tick off, I don't find that works like I've got 215 00:10:13,834 --> 00:10:15,794 Speaker 2: to operate very differently in those moments. 216 00:10:16,034 --> 00:10:20,474 Speaker 1: I also feel like I have structured my entire work 217 00:10:20,514 --> 00:10:24,274 Speaker 1: life to suit my personality. So that's how I know 218 00:10:24,314 --> 00:10:26,394 Speaker 1: I'll never be able to write a book that's not 219 00:10:26,834 --> 00:10:29,354 Speaker 1: in my DNA. The way I work, and I have 220 00:10:29,474 --> 00:10:32,834 Speaker 1: purposely structured it even now. So obviously I used to 221 00:10:32,874 --> 00:10:35,394 Speaker 1: host our daily news podcast, which would take up a 222 00:10:35,394 --> 00:10:38,274 Speaker 1: lot of my day, but now I host our women's 223 00:10:38,274 --> 00:10:41,194 Speaker 1: health podcast well, and that meant I was going from 224 00:10:41,274 --> 00:10:45,914 Speaker 1: having strict daily deadlines to a weekly deadline, and I 225 00:10:45,954 --> 00:10:48,434 Speaker 1: was like, what how am I even going to exist 226 00:10:48,474 --> 00:10:53,194 Speaker 1: in this new world? So I maneuvered myself so that 227 00:10:53,234 --> 00:10:56,514 Speaker 1: I still do the quickies news headlines every morning, so 228 00:10:56,634 --> 00:10:58,554 Speaker 1: I have a port of call every morning. I get 229 00:10:58,634 --> 00:11:00,714 Speaker 1: up early. I have a deadline at six am. That 230 00:11:00,834 --> 00:11:03,194 Speaker 1: is the first thing I achieve every single day. 231 00:11:03,794 --> 00:11:06,754 Speaker 3: And then sorry, you have a deadline at six am? Yes, 232 00:11:07,754 --> 00:11:09,274 Speaker 3: what time do you wake up? 233 00:11:09,634 --> 00:11:10,354 Speaker 1: Just after four? 234 00:11:10,874 --> 00:11:12,074 Speaker 3: And do you like that? 235 00:11:12,554 --> 00:11:14,954 Speaker 4: Or mission? 236 00:11:16,154 --> 00:11:17,234 Speaker 1: Should I like that? 237 00:11:17,714 --> 00:11:17,754 Speaker 3: No? 238 00:11:18,394 --> 00:11:20,394 Speaker 1: But I do like I just have to drag my 239 00:11:20,394 --> 00:11:21,994 Speaker 1: ass out of bed every day. And I've had this 240 00:11:22,034 --> 00:11:24,514 Speaker 1: early deadline for a really long time, like decades now, 241 00:11:24,514 --> 00:11:28,914 Speaker 1: because I've worked in radio news radio. So now if 242 00:11:28,954 --> 00:11:31,234 Speaker 1: I do not get up at four am Monday to 243 00:11:31,274 --> 00:11:34,994 Speaker 1: Friday and have that deadline by six am achieved, I 244 00:11:35,074 --> 00:11:38,394 Speaker 1: can't get started. I don't know what my first thing 245 00:11:38,474 --> 00:11:40,074 Speaker 1: to do is every day if I've got a whole 246 00:11:40,074 --> 00:11:42,194 Speaker 1: bunch of things, but if I can get up achieve it. 247 00:11:42,194 --> 00:11:45,034 Speaker 1: And this I think the military has something like this, 248 00:11:45,114 --> 00:11:48,394 Speaker 1: where you get up, you make your bed immediately, Like 249 00:11:48,434 --> 00:11:50,794 Speaker 1: there's this structure that you should do by a certain 250 00:11:50,834 --> 00:11:53,394 Speaker 1: time every morning so that you've achieved certain things already, 251 00:11:53,434 --> 00:11:56,074 Speaker 1: and that level of achievement then spurs you onto the 252 00:11:56,114 --> 00:12:00,234 Speaker 1: next level of achievement. So I need that deadline every 253 00:12:00,234 --> 00:12:03,154 Speaker 1: single day to get me kickstarted to the next thing. 254 00:12:03,714 --> 00:12:06,274 Speaker 1: And so it's my meatum. It is momentum, and once 255 00:12:06,274 --> 00:12:09,194 Speaker 1: I've started, there's no stopping me. I can get through 256 00:12:09,234 --> 00:12:11,714 Speaker 1: a million things a day, and I work better. Like 257 00:12:11,754 --> 00:12:13,514 Speaker 1: if someone says to me, like one of our social 258 00:12:13,594 --> 00:12:14,914 Speaker 1: letters has said to me the other day, we need 259 00:12:14,954 --> 00:12:16,754 Speaker 1: you to make this video, and I was like cool, 260 00:12:17,034 --> 00:12:19,914 Speaker 1: but she didn't give me a deadline, and so I 261 00:12:19,954 --> 00:12:21,754 Speaker 1: found myself floundering a little bit. And then she would 262 00:12:21,794 --> 00:12:23,114 Speaker 1: check and be like, hey, have you done that video. 263 00:12:23,114 --> 00:12:25,194 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm so sorry. I'll get onto 264 00:12:25,194 --> 00:12:26,434 Speaker 1: that today. And then by the end of the day 265 00:12:26,434 --> 00:12:28,274 Speaker 1: she's like, did you do that video? And I'm like, shit, no, 266 00:12:28,354 --> 00:12:30,194 Speaker 1: I didn't. And so I sat in a meeting with 267 00:12:30,194 --> 00:12:33,034 Speaker 1: her and I said, can you tell me what day 268 00:12:33,114 --> 00:12:35,074 Speaker 1: and what time you need it by, and I can 269 00:12:35,194 --> 00:12:38,594 Speaker 1: guarantee you you will get it before that time, because 270 00:12:38,634 --> 00:12:41,954 Speaker 1: it's now part of my structure and I know that 271 00:12:41,954 --> 00:12:43,834 Speaker 1: that needs to be done. So I've got to have 272 00:12:43,914 --> 00:12:45,514 Speaker 1: really strict deadlines with myself. 273 00:12:45,914 --> 00:12:48,634 Speaker 2: I think knowing yourself and how you work is such 274 00:12:48,674 --> 00:12:52,314 Speaker 2: a good point. I read something years ago about nomadic workers, 275 00:12:52,874 --> 00:12:55,634 Speaker 2: and by that it meant a lot of us aren't 276 00:12:56,114 --> 00:12:58,714 Speaker 2: built to sit at the same desk for eight hours, 277 00:12:58,794 --> 00:13:01,714 Speaker 2: and like work three different tasks. I move a lot 278 00:13:01,834 --> 00:13:03,914 Speaker 2: throughout the day. So like whether it's I moved to 279 00:13:03,914 --> 00:13:06,114 Speaker 2: different rooms, I moved to this couch, I moved to 280 00:13:06,114 --> 00:13:08,794 Speaker 2: the kitchen. It is like the chain of environment inspires 281 00:13:08,914 --> 00:13:12,194 Speaker 2: kind of this like burst of energy that I can 282 00:13:12,194 --> 00:13:13,394 Speaker 2: next chapter in your day. 283 00:13:13,834 --> 00:13:14,154 Speaker 1: Yeah. 284 00:13:14,434 --> 00:13:15,834 Speaker 2: The other thing I've been trying to do now that 285 00:13:15,834 --> 00:13:18,154 Speaker 2: the sun's out is like, especially if I have something 286 00:13:18,194 --> 00:13:21,194 Speaker 2: to think about or something to decide, or like let's 287 00:13:21,194 --> 00:13:23,274 Speaker 2: say we've got a meeting coming up and we've got 288 00:13:23,274 --> 00:13:25,914 Speaker 2: some things that we're going to discuss, I'll be like, 289 00:13:26,634 --> 00:13:28,954 Speaker 2: no point thinking about that at your desk. Walk around 290 00:13:28,954 --> 00:13:31,954 Speaker 2: the block. I think best when I walk, So I 291 00:13:32,074 --> 00:13:34,994 Speaker 2: just do that as many times throughout the day as 292 00:13:35,194 --> 00:13:37,954 Speaker 2: I can, because I find that the movement stimulates thinking 293 00:13:37,954 --> 00:13:38,234 Speaker 2: a bit. 294 00:13:38,874 --> 00:13:42,314 Speaker 3: I love how we took this in very philosophical directions. 295 00:13:42,634 --> 00:13:45,594 Speaker 3: I want to leave our audience with some concrete quick 296 00:13:45,634 --> 00:13:48,514 Speaker 3: takeaways too, So let's do a rapid fire around and 297 00:13:48,634 --> 00:13:50,274 Speaker 3: let's start with you, Jesse. 298 00:13:50,594 --> 00:13:53,194 Speaker 2: Okay, write everything you need to do the next day 299 00:13:53,674 --> 00:13:56,234 Speaker 2: before you leave work. In fact, I've heard this about writing, 300 00:13:56,234 --> 00:13:58,194 Speaker 2: and I think it's a trick for things. Is like, 301 00:13:58,834 --> 00:14:02,194 Speaker 2: also leave tasks half done, because you've got the momentum 302 00:14:02,234 --> 00:14:04,514 Speaker 2: when you get there the next day. So if there's 303 00:14:04,554 --> 00:14:06,234 Speaker 2: something you really don't want to start the next day, 304 00:14:06,394 --> 00:14:07,994 Speaker 2: just two five minutes of it and then when you 305 00:14:08,154 --> 00:14:10,074 Speaker 2: turn up, you've already got a head start. 306 00:14:10,234 --> 00:14:11,954 Speaker 1: I think that helps to add to that. Even if 307 00:14:11,994 --> 00:14:14,034 Speaker 1: you open up if it's to write something, open up 308 00:14:14,034 --> 00:14:16,274 Speaker 1: a document, give it a title and the first line, 309 00:14:16,314 --> 00:14:18,874 Speaker 1: and it's already yeah yeah, And then next day you're like, 310 00:14:18,954 --> 00:14:19,634 Speaker 1: it's already there. 311 00:14:19,994 --> 00:14:23,074 Speaker 2: You're in it, definitely pomidoro, whether it's five whether it's 312 00:14:23,194 --> 00:14:27,314 Speaker 2: twenty minutes. And my other one is whether it's emails 313 00:14:27,314 --> 00:14:30,554 Speaker 2: slack messages, leave them unread until you have a chance 314 00:14:30,594 --> 00:14:34,594 Speaker 2: to reply, because the trail of things that you look 315 00:14:34,594 --> 00:14:37,514 Speaker 2: at and go, I'll get to that, you won't experience 316 00:14:37,554 --> 00:14:39,554 Speaker 2: it as a to do list. And this is a 317 00:14:39,594 --> 00:14:40,914 Speaker 2: really unpopular opinion. 318 00:14:41,394 --> 00:14:42,314 Speaker 1: I don't organize. 319 00:14:42,354 --> 00:14:44,194 Speaker 2: You know, people are really organized with their inbox and 320 00:14:44,194 --> 00:14:46,994 Speaker 2: they sought things. I don't sort things. I read it, 321 00:14:47,314 --> 00:14:50,434 Speaker 2: I reply or I archive it. That's it. And I'm 322 00:14:50,514 --> 00:14:52,634 Speaker 2: ruthless with what I reply to. So I'm not doing 323 00:14:52,674 --> 00:14:54,994 Speaker 2: folders and shit free from the U clerk. 324 00:14:56,674 --> 00:15:00,714 Speaker 1: My advice is to organize your inbox. I know that's 325 00:15:01,354 --> 00:15:03,914 Speaker 1: the opposite of what you just said. There is nothing 326 00:15:04,194 --> 00:15:06,794 Speaker 1: more distracting. And I can only liken this to like 327 00:15:07,234 --> 00:15:09,074 Speaker 1: still being at high school, like year twelve, and knowing 328 00:15:09,114 --> 00:15:12,074 Speaker 1: you have assignments to you, or there's an exam coming 329 00:15:12,114 --> 00:15:14,034 Speaker 1: up and you can't quite finish it because you know 330 00:15:14,074 --> 00:15:16,234 Speaker 1: all that other stuff is just sitting there. That's how 331 00:15:16,234 --> 00:15:18,834 Speaker 1: people view their email inbox. And there is even a 332 00:15:18,914 --> 00:15:21,954 Speaker 1: day dedicated to responding to emails that you've left for 333 00:15:21,994 --> 00:15:24,514 Speaker 1: too long, and you get kind of an amnesty on that. 334 00:15:24,994 --> 00:15:28,434 Speaker 1: But this just file shit like it's not that hard. 335 00:15:28,474 --> 00:15:30,874 Speaker 1: All you've got to do is make some folders, make 336 00:15:30,914 --> 00:15:32,754 Speaker 1: sure that you file things in a way that works 337 00:15:32,754 --> 00:15:35,154 Speaker 1: for you. For me, it's putting it under people's names. 338 00:15:35,194 --> 00:15:37,434 Speaker 1: I know who my priorities are when it comes to 339 00:15:37,474 --> 00:15:39,874 Speaker 1: my colleagues, so I put it under their name. I 340 00:15:39,914 --> 00:15:41,594 Speaker 1: know that I have to respond to that thing, or 341 00:15:41,634 --> 00:15:43,554 Speaker 1: I can do it immediately and then just delete it 342 00:15:43,634 --> 00:15:45,994 Speaker 1: or shift it out. I leave them unread in their 343 00:15:46,034 --> 00:15:47,914 Speaker 1: folder if I know it still needs to be addressed, 344 00:15:48,114 --> 00:15:50,514 Speaker 1: but clear out your freaking inbox where you can get 345 00:15:50,554 --> 00:15:52,914 Speaker 1: it out of your brain you can focus on other stuff. 346 00:15:53,474 --> 00:16:00,154 Speaker 1: My other thing is I have never allowed notifications from 347 00:16:00,234 --> 00:16:04,754 Speaker 1: work apps on my phone. They've never been enabled on 348 00:16:04,794 --> 00:16:05,314 Speaker 1: my phone. 349 00:16:05,354 --> 00:16:07,994 Speaker 2: That's so interesting given your own news journo too, so 350 00:16:08,074 --> 00:16:09,874 Speaker 2: you would think that if anyone needed them, it would 351 00:16:09,874 --> 00:16:10,074 Speaker 2: be you. 352 00:16:10,234 --> 00:16:14,234 Speaker 1: It's not news notifications. I'm subscribed to a billion breaking 353 00:16:14,274 --> 00:16:16,674 Speaker 1: news things that I will get fed stories all day, 354 00:16:16,674 --> 00:16:19,114 Speaker 1: every day, and that's totally fine. What I mean is 355 00:16:19,154 --> 00:16:23,274 Speaker 1: your colleagues who might be asking you for little things, 356 00:16:23,314 --> 00:16:26,274 Speaker 1: big things, whatever it is I do not have, so 357 00:16:26,314 --> 00:16:29,234 Speaker 1: we use slack it MoMA Mia. I have never enabled 358 00:16:29,754 --> 00:16:33,474 Speaker 1: slack notifications on my phone. I don't allow my phone 359 00:16:33,514 --> 00:16:35,634 Speaker 1: to become the distraction. I also turn off lots of 360 00:16:35,674 --> 00:16:39,154 Speaker 1: social media notifications too, because that on top of that is, 361 00:16:39,274 --> 00:16:41,794 Speaker 1: you know, a notification that would take me away from 362 00:16:41,794 --> 00:16:44,154 Speaker 1: whatever it is I'm trying to focus on. The Other 363 00:16:44,194 --> 00:16:48,474 Speaker 1: thing is like, just say no to stuff. I have 364 00:16:48,594 --> 00:16:51,354 Speaker 1: been and I grew up in the era of like 365 00:16:51,394 --> 00:16:54,194 Speaker 1: I'm a young gen X or an old millennial, whichever 366 00:16:54,234 --> 00:16:56,074 Speaker 1: way you want to look at it, and so I've 367 00:16:56,114 --> 00:16:58,874 Speaker 1: grown up in this era of you do as you're told. 368 00:16:59,034 --> 00:17:00,874 Speaker 1: You take on all the tasks when you're asked to. 369 00:17:01,274 --> 00:17:03,754 Speaker 1: You don't say no, you don't push back because that 370 00:17:03,834 --> 00:17:06,234 Speaker 1: will be seen as you being a non team player 371 00:17:06,314 --> 00:17:09,954 Speaker 1: or a shitty employee. And now I've realized, like even 372 00:17:10,033 --> 00:17:13,553 Speaker 1: just today, we had one of our managers say to me, 373 00:17:13,634 --> 00:17:15,593 Speaker 1: can you do this thing on Thursday? And I said no, 374 00:17:15,874 --> 00:17:18,354 Speaker 1: I'm doing this other thing. Whereas like ten years ago, 375 00:17:18,354 --> 00:17:19,714 Speaker 1: I would have been like, oh my god, Okay, how 376 00:17:19,714 --> 00:17:21,314 Speaker 1: do I fit that all in? If I move that 377 00:17:21,434 --> 00:17:23,273 Speaker 1: and do that and switch that out, I could probably 378 00:17:23,314 --> 00:17:23,914 Speaker 1: make that work. 379 00:17:24,154 --> 00:17:25,874 Speaker 2: Claire, I think we said no to the same thing. 380 00:17:26,114 --> 00:17:27,594 Speaker 1: Did we say no? 381 00:17:28,434 --> 00:17:31,234 Speaker 2: We probably did, And now she's fucked. But we are 382 00:17:31,234 --> 00:17:32,394 Speaker 2: having a great daft But. 383 00:17:32,354 --> 00:17:34,954 Speaker 1: Our mental health is fabulous and that's all that matters. 384 00:17:34,994 --> 00:17:37,354 Speaker 1: But also just means like you don't cram so much 385 00:17:37,394 --> 00:17:40,513 Speaker 1: into your to do list that you've got to start 386 00:17:40,554 --> 00:17:42,914 Speaker 1: maneuvering and thinking of other ways to get around things 387 00:17:42,954 --> 00:17:45,273 Speaker 1: like stick to what you're doing and doing it well, 388 00:17:45,554 --> 00:17:47,994 Speaker 1: and don't care if you're not taking on everyone else's work. 389 00:17:47,994 --> 00:17:48,674 Speaker 1: At the same time. 390 00:17:48,834 --> 00:17:51,074 Speaker 3: I love that, Claire, those were two things that I 391 00:17:51,074 --> 00:17:53,874 Speaker 3: will never do or my inbox and say no, but 392 00:17:54,074 --> 00:17:55,394 Speaker 3: I applaud you for doing them. 393 00:17:55,794 --> 00:17:57,234 Speaker 1: Mine are really quick. 394 00:17:57,354 --> 00:17:59,833 Speaker 3: The first one is schedule out your exercise for the week. 395 00:18:00,034 --> 00:18:01,154 Speaker 3: I love doing that. 396 00:18:01,314 --> 00:18:03,194 Speaker 1: Something I do want to do well. I actually put 397 00:18:03,194 --> 00:18:03,793 Speaker 1: it in your diary. 398 00:18:04,034 --> 00:18:04,594 Speaker 2: Yeah I do. 399 00:18:04,834 --> 00:18:06,914 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so excited to do it that I typically 400 00:18:06,914 --> 00:18:09,594 Speaker 3: do it mid the previous week for the next week 401 00:18:09,594 --> 00:18:10,754 Speaker 3: because I run. 402 00:18:11,154 --> 00:18:13,354 Speaker 2: Is it a class or is it a I'm showing up. 403 00:18:13,514 --> 00:18:14,554 Speaker 1: It's Polate's classes. 404 00:18:14,634 --> 00:18:15,874 Speaker 2: Okay, so you have to book it in. 405 00:18:16,034 --> 00:18:17,474 Speaker 1: You got to book it interesting, you got it. 406 00:18:17,834 --> 00:18:20,834 Speaker 3: The second one is always use a mouse. I was 407 00:18:20,874 --> 00:18:24,954 Speaker 3: told this recently by a person who specializes in backs, 408 00:18:25,074 --> 00:18:27,194 Speaker 3: because you know, I'm carrying my laptop around places, and 409 00:18:27,234 --> 00:18:29,194 Speaker 3: she said, look, I don't care what you do where 410 00:18:29,234 --> 00:18:31,074 Speaker 3: you sit, but you've got to use a mouse because 411 00:18:31,074 --> 00:18:34,234 Speaker 3: those little trackers on your laptop are ruining your back. 412 00:18:34,634 --> 00:18:37,154 Speaker 1: You into little hunchbacks, turn you into a little hunchbacks. 413 00:18:37,234 --> 00:18:38,594 Speaker 1: I got a mouse as soon as you told me that. 414 00:18:38,794 --> 00:18:41,554 Speaker 3: Yep. And then the third thing I want to suggest 415 00:18:41,834 --> 00:18:44,954 Speaker 3: is that you wear perfume. It shows that you're getting 416 00:18:44,954 --> 00:18:47,194 Speaker 3: out in the world. Like I put it on every 417 00:18:47,274 --> 00:18:49,714 Speaker 3: day and it's just like, well, because I'm not in 418 00:18:49,754 --> 00:18:52,434 Speaker 3: bed lounging around anymore. Like I got my perfume on 419 00:18:52,594 --> 00:18:54,353 Speaker 3: and it's just a little ritual that brings a bit 420 00:18:54,394 --> 00:18:54,834 Speaker 3: of joy. 421 00:18:54,874 --> 00:18:57,314 Speaker 2: So this is a total rabbit hole that I have 422 00:18:57,474 --> 00:18:59,114 Speaker 2: wanted to pitch on the show that I haven't pitched 423 00:18:59,194 --> 00:19:02,474 Speaker 2: yet is I've become quite obsessed with what's in perfume, 424 00:19:02,514 --> 00:19:04,914 Speaker 2: and you know all the theories about pore minds and 425 00:19:04,914 --> 00:19:07,314 Speaker 2: maybe it's bad for you. Yeah, I keep asking that 426 00:19:07,354 --> 00:19:09,714 Speaker 2: because I was. I think it's probably I was obsessed 427 00:19:09,754 --> 00:19:12,474 Speaker 2: with perfume, like for years and years, and then I 428 00:19:12,514 --> 00:19:15,234 Speaker 2: got into like, oh is it bad for me? And 429 00:19:15,274 --> 00:19:18,474 Speaker 2: then I got into there's natural ones, but then you 430 00:19:18,474 --> 00:19:19,954 Speaker 2: can only buy them online. I'm like, I want to 431 00:19:19,994 --> 00:19:21,594 Speaker 2: go in and smell them. Oh my god, I just do. 432 00:19:22,034 --> 00:19:24,514 Speaker 1: Apparently that extends outside of perfume too, to like even 433 00:19:24,554 --> 00:19:27,474 Speaker 1: scented candles and like all yeah stuff. So it's are bad. 434 00:19:27,594 --> 00:19:29,194 Speaker 2: All the people who are like, very bad. 435 00:19:29,594 --> 00:19:32,313 Speaker 1: We need a proper activity. Had no mean. 436 00:19:32,794 --> 00:19:35,074 Speaker 2: I love a scented candle. I love a good smell, 437 00:19:35,434 --> 00:19:36,914 Speaker 2: but I have some questions what the. 438 00:19:36,994 --> 00:19:41,194 Speaker 3: Volunteer is that everyone has very different modes of working exactly. 439 00:19:41,394 --> 00:19:43,354 Speaker 1: And that's why when you manage people, something I will 440 00:19:43,354 --> 00:19:45,794 Speaker 1: never ever do in my life because I'm terrible at it. 441 00:19:46,034 --> 00:19:49,634 Speaker 1: But like good managers understand that and they will tailor 442 00:19:50,114 --> 00:19:53,434 Speaker 1: their work life to someone who's you know, strengths are 443 00:19:53,674 --> 00:19:55,474 Speaker 1: different to the next person's. 444 00:20:02,714 --> 00:20:06,793 Speaker 5: Hello, how loudest Hello and venom here with Jesse and 445 00:20:06,834 --> 00:20:12,354 Speaker 5: clam Hello. So I have something really important I wanted 446 00:20:12,394 --> 00:20:15,553 Speaker 5: to talk about today. Because we all work in media, 447 00:20:15,794 --> 00:20:18,674 Speaker 5: we all have a social media account of some sort. 448 00:20:18,754 --> 00:20:20,834 Speaker 5: I thought you were going to say addiction, and we 449 00:20:20,914 --> 00:20:25,234 Speaker 5: all have addiction, as most people do. But I want 450 00:20:25,234 --> 00:20:28,114 Speaker 5: to talk about those social media accounts that I feel 451 00:20:28,114 --> 00:20:32,234 Speaker 5: like don't get enough value put on them. And I'm 452 00:20:32,274 --> 00:20:36,194 Speaker 5: talking about the accounts that are so niche, the accounts 453 00:20:36,234 --> 00:20:39,593 Speaker 5: that if they weren't in our lives, nothing would change. 454 00:20:39,754 --> 00:20:42,234 Speaker 5: It would be the exact same. Yes, the accounts that 455 00:20:42,234 --> 00:20:45,354 Speaker 5: aren't political, aren't newsy. We don't learn anything from them. 456 00:20:45,394 --> 00:20:48,874 Speaker 5: It's not a must have. They're not celebrities, no, not celebrities, 457 00:20:49,114 --> 00:20:52,314 Speaker 5: no personalities. These are like kind of what reminded me 458 00:20:52,354 --> 00:20:55,234 Speaker 5: of the early days of Instagram. It's like these really 459 00:20:55,394 --> 00:20:58,553 Speaker 5: niche accounts that people just share like this is my 460 00:20:58,634 --> 00:20:59,474 Speaker 5: flower today. 461 00:20:59,594 --> 00:21:00,874 Speaker 4: I really like this flower. 462 00:21:01,074 --> 00:21:04,274 Speaker 2: Okay, like, do you remember really early in the COVID 463 00:21:04,354 --> 00:21:07,714 Speaker 2: days we got and I can't remember his name, that 464 00:21:07,754 --> 00:21:12,474 Speaker 2: he gave up fizzy drinks, no fizzy drink, No fizzy drink. 465 00:21:12,274 --> 00:21:17,834 Speaker 1: Man, No phizzy drink today, no special updates, just holidays, 466 00:21:17,874 --> 00:21:20,274 Speaker 1: me and my wife and he would got going. He's 467 00:21:20,274 --> 00:21:24,033 Speaker 1: still going fizzy drink and the kids and stuff. 468 00:21:22,994 --> 00:21:24,914 Speaker 2: And every now and then I check it in on him. 469 00:21:24,914 --> 00:21:27,634 Speaker 2: But he was like one day with no and then 470 00:21:27,674 --> 00:21:29,634 Speaker 2: he went to like one hundred. He went it was 471 00:21:29,674 --> 00:21:32,313 Speaker 2: low enough steaks, but also felt really high, and we 472 00:21:32,314 --> 00:21:36,594 Speaker 2: were all rooting for him. And I always wonder with that, Matt, 473 00:21:36,634 --> 00:21:39,274 Speaker 2: you're potentially the most famous man on TikTok right, are 474 00:21:39,314 --> 00:21:42,313 Speaker 2: you making any money? I'm always like, how do we 475 00:21:42,394 --> 00:21:45,834 Speaker 2: monetize this? And I would love to know that he 476 00:21:45,914 --> 00:21:47,793 Speaker 2: can't be sponsored by fizzy drinks. 477 00:21:48,114 --> 00:21:50,714 Speaker 4: No, he can't really sleep by. 478 00:21:50,554 --> 00:21:55,194 Speaker 1: Water some government department for low sugar yes. 479 00:21:55,074 --> 00:21:59,554 Speaker 2: And Diabetes Association perhaps. But I'm still rooting for him. 480 00:21:59,554 --> 00:22:01,274 Speaker 2: But as far as I know, things are still going 481 00:22:01,314 --> 00:22:02,114 Speaker 2: really well for that man. 482 00:22:02,474 --> 00:22:05,834 Speaker 5: So similar in that vein of no fizzy drinks, I 483 00:22:05,874 --> 00:22:08,994 Speaker 5: want to talk about then that have us in a 484 00:22:09,114 --> 00:22:11,674 Speaker 5: choke hole that we will never give up, but literally 485 00:22:11,754 --> 00:22:13,634 Speaker 5: add no value to our lives? 486 00:22:13,954 --> 00:22:14,594 Speaker 1: Whatsoever? 487 00:22:14,954 --> 00:22:17,634 Speaker 2: Are we allowed to bring some that we're all so 488 00:22:17,794 --> 00:22:18,754 Speaker 2: slightly ashamed of? 489 00:22:19,114 --> 00:22:21,994 Speaker 1: The more the merrier, I think that's an immergerative. I 490 00:22:21,994 --> 00:22:24,954 Speaker 1: think this more shameful the better, because this is a 491 00:22:25,074 --> 00:22:28,074 Speaker 1: judgment free zone, whilst I will still also be judging you. 492 00:22:28,314 --> 00:22:31,154 Speaker 2: Okay, and please like because I think it Sometimes it 493 00:22:31,274 --> 00:22:36,114 Speaker 2: might reveal some dark impulses. And also, okay, I don't know, 494 00:22:36,194 --> 00:22:38,674 Speaker 2: but I find myself deep in rabbit holes. I'm not 495 00:22:38,674 --> 00:22:41,274 Speaker 2: proud of what I'm watching. But this is the eleventh video. 496 00:22:42,154 --> 00:22:44,434 Speaker 5: I once followed a TikTok account where it was just 497 00:22:44,954 --> 00:22:47,954 Speaker 5: this guy pushing a marble down a flight of stairs. 498 00:22:48,114 --> 00:22:51,354 Speaker 4: Oh no, it would crash into glass pots. 499 00:22:51,474 --> 00:22:52,234 Speaker 1: I've been there too. 500 00:22:52,954 --> 00:22:55,434 Speaker 2: I quite enjoyed that. And now you know what, I 501 00:22:55,474 --> 00:22:58,154 Speaker 2: couldn't enjoy that because now I'd wonder if it were AI. 502 00:22:58,354 --> 00:23:01,154 Speaker 5: Yes, but it was, And do you feel betrayed if 503 00:23:01,194 --> 00:23:03,033 Speaker 5: it's AI yes. 504 00:23:04,434 --> 00:23:08,074 Speaker 2: If it's a literal marble literally hitting a glass bottle, 505 00:23:08,114 --> 00:23:09,634 Speaker 2: I go no, no, no, this is somehow good for 506 00:23:09,714 --> 00:23:11,714 Speaker 2: my brain, but the rest is brain. 507 00:23:11,794 --> 00:23:13,793 Speaker 1: Get okay, and vernam, can you give me some of 508 00:23:13,794 --> 00:23:15,514 Speaker 1: your favorites please, because I'm writing a list. 509 00:23:15,634 --> 00:23:18,073 Speaker 5: I have two favorites that I've been following for years. 510 00:23:18,154 --> 00:23:20,954 Speaker 5: The first one I have recommended on a Friday Show 511 00:23:20,994 --> 00:23:22,434 Speaker 5: before as one of my records. 512 00:23:22,514 --> 00:23:23,754 Speaker 4: It's hot Dudes Reading. 513 00:23:24,834 --> 00:23:26,354 Speaker 1: I think I sent this to you one I me, 514 00:23:26,394 --> 00:23:27,354 Speaker 1: and you're like, I am already. 515 00:23:27,354 --> 00:23:29,354 Speaker 4: I'm already a fan from day one. 516 00:23:29,674 --> 00:23:34,674 Speaker 5: It's basically this account that encourages people to take photos 517 00:23:34,714 --> 00:23:37,553 Speaker 5: of men who are reading in public, send it to 518 00:23:37,594 --> 00:23:40,394 Speaker 5: the account, and then the best thing about this is 519 00:23:40,434 --> 00:23:42,874 Speaker 5: that it's obviously a man reading, and him reading is 520 00:23:42,914 --> 00:23:44,194 Speaker 5: automatically what makes him hot. 521 00:23:44,714 --> 00:23:46,754 Speaker 2: How many men do you think walk around with books 522 00:23:46,794 --> 00:23:47,793 Speaker 2: trying to get pictured on that? 523 00:23:48,714 --> 00:23:50,793 Speaker 5: Well, Jacob Aladi does all the time. He has them 524 00:23:50,794 --> 00:23:52,674 Speaker 5: in his pocket famously. 525 00:23:53,034 --> 00:23:53,314 Speaker 1: Nice. 526 00:23:53,394 --> 00:23:55,274 Speaker 4: Nice, but yeah, I think more men should read, which 527 00:23:55,354 --> 00:23:57,834 Speaker 4: is what this account is aiming to do. It's actually 528 00:23:57,834 --> 00:23:58,954 Speaker 4: an activistic. 529 00:23:58,874 --> 00:24:01,034 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is at okay. 530 00:24:01,034 --> 00:24:01,674 Speaker 4: The second one I. 531 00:24:01,594 --> 00:24:04,074 Speaker 5: Want to talk about is girls carrying shit? Have you 532 00:24:04,114 --> 00:24:05,314 Speaker 5: heard of this Instagram account? 533 00:24:06,514 --> 00:24:09,273 Speaker 1: No, I presume in the title it's pretty much it. 534 00:24:09,514 --> 00:24:11,474 Speaker 5: The only reason I found this was because a lot 535 00:24:11,474 --> 00:24:14,793 Speaker 5: of my friends who I follow would take photos of 536 00:24:14,834 --> 00:24:17,994 Speaker 5: themselves holding stuff in their hands and then tag the account. 537 00:24:18,314 --> 00:24:20,354 Speaker 5: And then I went into this account and it's like 538 00:24:20,874 --> 00:24:23,834 Speaker 5: hundreds of thousands of followers of this account called girls 539 00:24:23,874 --> 00:24:27,354 Speaker 5: carrying Shit and the bio is, after thousands of years 540 00:24:27,394 --> 00:24:30,474 Speaker 5: without pockets, non men have evolved a superior grip to 541 00:24:30,594 --> 00:24:34,314 Speaker 5: carrying our shit. Yes. So it started with this girl 542 00:24:34,394 --> 00:24:37,073 Speaker 5: named Hallie Robe and basically what she did was she 543 00:24:37,154 --> 00:24:40,474 Speaker 5: was like, always take photos of herself holding stuff, and 544 00:24:40,514 --> 00:24:43,194 Speaker 5: then she would go to dinners with her girlfriends, get 545 00:24:43,234 --> 00:24:45,674 Speaker 5: them to empty their bags and ask them how much 546 00:24:45,714 --> 00:24:47,514 Speaker 5: of your stuff can you just hold in your hand? 547 00:24:47,594 --> 00:24:50,514 Speaker 4: And take photos of that? And soon it became this whole. 548 00:24:50,234 --> 00:24:53,513 Speaker 5: Thing where now women are sending photos of themselves or 549 00:24:53,554 --> 00:24:57,274 Speaker 5: other women in public holding things in their hands. 550 00:24:57,634 --> 00:24:58,994 Speaker 1: I was like, why am I. 551 00:24:59,074 --> 00:25:00,914 Speaker 4: So entertained by this? 552 00:25:01,314 --> 00:25:03,274 Speaker 5: And I went into a deep dive and I found 553 00:25:03,314 --> 00:25:06,914 Speaker 5: an interview she did with Polyester magazine and she says, 554 00:25:07,794 --> 00:25:10,914 Speaker 5: I'm more interested in who those people are, the story 555 00:25:10,954 --> 00:25:13,594 Speaker 5: behind the objects they're carrying. One of my favorite posts 556 00:25:13,714 --> 00:25:16,234 Speaker 5: was a few weeks ago, and it's this girl carrying 557 00:25:16,234 --> 00:25:20,434 Speaker 5: a ticket and her cut off ponytail. That's funny when 558 00:25:20,554 --> 00:25:23,914 Speaker 5: the objects are being carried at odds because simultaneously it 559 00:25:23,954 --> 00:25:26,674 Speaker 5: feels grounded in reality that these objects could end up 560 00:25:26,714 --> 00:25:28,754 Speaker 5: in someone's hand at the same time. 561 00:25:29,394 --> 00:25:30,754 Speaker 4: And it's so true. 562 00:25:30,794 --> 00:25:32,594 Speaker 5: Like one of my favorite posts of hers is like 563 00:25:32,634 --> 00:25:34,754 Speaker 5: a girl who doesn't know she's being photographed and it's 564 00:25:34,754 --> 00:25:36,634 Speaker 5: not even her face, it's just a hand. She looks 565 00:25:36,674 --> 00:25:38,474 Speaker 5: like she's at this party and in her one hand 566 00:25:38,674 --> 00:25:42,954 Speaker 5: is a margarita, her phone, a tambourine, and a slice 567 00:25:42,954 --> 00:25:44,274 Speaker 5: of pizza in one hand. 568 00:25:44,514 --> 00:25:48,114 Speaker 1: I mean, that is an incredible achievement that should be 569 00:25:48,194 --> 00:25:51,834 Speaker 1: celebrated publicly. I absolutely am getting behind this. I love it. 570 00:25:52,074 --> 00:25:54,994 Speaker 2: That is an activist camp. You discover what a single 571 00:25:55,074 --> 00:25:56,274 Speaker 2: finger can do. 572 00:25:56,354 --> 00:25:58,074 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, it's not that men, right, So you'll have 573 00:25:58,114 --> 00:26:00,354 Speaker 5: your phone slotted in between your pinky and ing and 574 00:26:00,354 --> 00:26:02,314 Speaker 5: then your keys like will be hooked off something else, 575 00:26:02,314 --> 00:26:03,754 Speaker 5: and then a lip gloss will be on your like 576 00:26:03,794 --> 00:26:04,834 Speaker 5: index finger. 577 00:26:04,754 --> 00:26:06,914 Speaker 4: Yep, and then maybe like a full on book as 578 00:26:06,914 --> 00:26:07,634 Speaker 4: you're reading it. 579 00:26:09,714 --> 00:26:13,034 Speaker 1: Women's bodies are amazing. I mean, come on, we are amazing. 580 00:26:13,434 --> 00:26:16,514 Speaker 1: Can I share my favorite with you? Guys? So this 581 00:26:16,554 --> 00:26:18,954 Speaker 1: has not only become my favorite account, but also has 582 00:26:19,034 --> 00:26:22,114 Speaker 1: become like a bonding moment between myself and my daughter. 583 00:26:22,834 --> 00:26:27,553 Speaker 1: It was specifically created for the autism community. And I 584 00:26:27,594 --> 00:26:31,034 Speaker 1: am not autistic, but I feel like I really can 585 00:26:31,074 --> 00:26:36,394 Speaker 1: relate very hard to rate my spoon. Oh, I actually 586 00:26:36,634 --> 00:26:41,154 Speaker 1: know what you're talking about now, yes, yes, So basically, 587 00:26:41,474 --> 00:26:44,914 Speaker 1: people present a piece of cutlery and it's not always 588 00:26:44,954 --> 00:26:46,554 Speaker 1: a spoon. Sometimes it's a fork, and every now and 589 00:26:46,634 --> 00:26:48,874 Speaker 1: then it's a knife. But they present the piece of 590 00:26:48,874 --> 00:26:51,594 Speaker 1: cutlery folded up in some kind of tea towel arrangement. 591 00:26:52,074 --> 00:26:54,554 Speaker 1: You first see the tea towel and it's folded into threes, 592 00:26:54,674 --> 00:26:57,754 Speaker 1: and then the person gently opens the first leaf of 593 00:26:57,754 --> 00:26:59,313 Speaker 1: the tea towel and then the second leaf of the 594 00:26:59,354 --> 00:27:02,194 Speaker 1: tea toowl and it reveals the piece of cutlery inside. 595 00:27:02,314 --> 00:27:07,634 Speaker 1: And sometimes sometimes a spoon is beautiful like proportion, it's lovely, 596 00:27:08,114 --> 00:27:10,474 Speaker 1: like not too big, not too sack classifies. 597 00:27:11,514 --> 00:27:14,273 Speaker 2: You just know, you just know. 598 00:27:14,514 --> 00:27:15,834 Speaker 1: And that is the thing about it. 599 00:27:16,034 --> 00:27:18,194 Speaker 2: There's no written criteria, but you can feel it in 600 00:27:18,194 --> 00:27:19,394 Speaker 2: your gut when it's a bad. 601 00:27:19,234 --> 00:27:22,914 Speaker 1: Spoon hundred percent. And as soon as you see about, 602 00:27:22,954 --> 00:27:25,874 Speaker 1: like I saw a spoon just yesterday which I can't 603 00:27:25,914 --> 00:27:29,273 Speaker 1: stop thinking about. It has no handle, it has the 604 00:27:29,434 --> 00:27:33,114 Speaker 1: spoon part on one side and then fork times coming 605 00:27:33,114 --> 00:27:36,434 Speaker 1: off the back of it. That is a crime against 606 00:27:36,554 --> 00:27:39,594 Speaker 1: humanity that should not exist anywhere in the world. And 607 00:27:39,634 --> 00:27:41,434 Speaker 1: there are so many times my daughter and I'll see 608 00:27:41,474 --> 00:27:42,874 Speaker 1: it come up on my phone and be like, hey, hey, 609 00:27:42,914 --> 00:27:44,274 Speaker 1: can we come I comm here, and then we'll sit 610 00:27:44,314 --> 00:27:46,554 Speaker 1: together and as soon as it's unfolded, we'll be like, oh, 611 00:27:47,234 --> 00:27:48,434 Speaker 1: that's such a good spoon. 612 00:27:48,754 --> 00:27:50,513 Speaker 5: Does it not make you want to like fast forward 613 00:27:50,514 --> 00:27:52,594 Speaker 5: the tea towel situation and get straight to the spoon. 614 00:27:52,834 --> 00:27:55,194 Speaker 1: No, it's all part of the anticipation. You don't know 615 00:27:55,194 --> 00:27:57,834 Speaker 1: what's coming, and then you automatically your brain will click 616 00:27:57,874 --> 00:28:00,994 Speaker 1: and be like, yes, that is a great spoon, or 617 00:28:01,074 --> 00:28:04,434 Speaker 1: one hundred percent no to the spoon, especially ones that 618 00:28:04,474 --> 00:28:07,594 Speaker 1: are shaped like shovels or like a two small or 619 00:28:07,594 --> 00:28:09,354 Speaker 1: too deep, like you know when you get those really 620 00:28:09,394 --> 00:28:12,553 Speaker 1: like the soup spoons, like oh like it? 621 00:28:12,594 --> 00:28:14,194 Speaker 5: Like I don't like that because it feels like you're 622 00:28:14,234 --> 00:28:15,354 Speaker 5: cutting the sides of your mouth. 623 00:28:15,714 --> 00:28:19,634 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, don't touch the sides. So there's no criteria. 624 00:28:19,714 --> 00:28:22,954 Speaker 1: It's literally just you automatically your brain nose whether it's 625 00:28:22,994 --> 00:28:26,034 Speaker 1: a good spoon or a bad spoon. I can't explain it, 626 00:28:26,034 --> 00:28:37,394 Speaker 1: it's just your brain knows. I also truly love a 627 00:28:37,674 --> 00:28:41,994 Speaker 1: fast forwarded garden tidy up oh clah. 628 00:28:42,874 --> 00:28:43,874 Speaker 2: Speak in my language. 629 00:28:43,994 --> 00:28:46,634 Speaker 1: There's lots of accounts that do this, but essentially, they'll 630 00:28:46,754 --> 00:28:49,514 Speaker 1: like trawl the neighborhood, find maybe an abandoned home or 631 00:28:49,514 --> 00:28:52,114 Speaker 1: a home of someone who's fallen on hard times. They'll 632 00:28:52,154 --> 00:28:54,594 Speaker 1: approach the door, knock, maybe they're there, maybe they're not, 633 00:28:54,754 --> 00:28:58,274 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. They'll get into like doing the whipper 634 00:28:58,314 --> 00:29:02,034 Speaker 1: snippering and the edging, and then they mow and they 635 00:29:02,074 --> 00:29:04,994 Speaker 1: trim trees and bushes and then it's like really quick 636 00:29:05,354 --> 00:29:07,954 Speaker 1: and then sometimes a Karen will step in and be 637 00:29:08,074 --> 00:29:10,314 Speaker 1: really mad that they're working on their garden and not 638 00:29:10,434 --> 00:29:13,594 Speaker 1: her garden. And sometimes like local police officers will rock 639 00:29:13,674 --> 00:29:15,834 Speaker 1: up and be like, hey, what's your story. But in 640 00:29:15,874 --> 00:29:20,234 Speaker 1: the end you always get a beautiful tidy garden and 641 00:29:20,274 --> 00:29:22,434 Speaker 1: it does something to my nerve endings. It just makes 642 00:29:22,434 --> 00:29:24,434 Speaker 1: me want to just, I don't know, fall in a 643 00:29:24,434 --> 00:29:26,714 Speaker 1: heap and just be loved by everybody. 644 00:29:26,954 --> 00:29:29,994 Speaker 2: It's good for your nervous system, Claire, That's what it's doing. 645 00:29:30,114 --> 00:29:33,434 Speaker 2: I feel as though this is the kind of bandwagon 646 00:29:33,474 --> 00:29:33,874 Speaker 2: that I'm on. 647 00:29:34,314 --> 00:29:36,434 Speaker 1: So I love card detailing. 648 00:29:36,794 --> 00:29:38,834 Speaker 2: Have you seen one where they like go and clean 649 00:29:39,514 --> 00:29:42,074 Speaker 2: their middle thing and then they pick the drug up 650 00:29:42,074 --> 00:29:42,634 Speaker 2: and they just do. 651 00:29:42,634 --> 00:29:46,394 Speaker 1: A little nice Yeah, they've got their own special brushes. 652 00:29:46,634 --> 00:29:49,474 Speaker 1: They get into all the crevices and stuff and it's like, oh, 653 00:29:49,554 --> 00:29:51,714 Speaker 1: I need one of those. I want to do that 654 00:29:51,754 --> 00:29:54,954 Speaker 1: to Mica car detailing. But have you seen I can't 655 00:29:54,994 --> 00:29:57,794 Speaker 1: remember his name, but it's something the poor man and. 656 00:29:57,754 --> 00:30:00,474 Speaker 2: He goes with care. Yeah, and the British guy, the 657 00:30:00,514 --> 00:30:02,794 Speaker 2: poor guy, the poor guy, British guy. And the thing 658 00:30:02,794 --> 00:30:06,074 Speaker 2: about British pools is that for a portion of the year, 659 00:30:06,074 --> 00:30:08,434 Speaker 2: it's not just that they sit in your backyard like 660 00:30:08,434 --> 00:30:10,914 Speaker 2: in Australia and maybe you don't maintain it as well. 661 00:30:10,954 --> 00:30:13,274 Speaker 2: It's like they get discussed. 662 00:30:13,514 --> 00:30:16,834 Speaker 5: They come a pond, they become a pond and sometimes 663 00:30:16,874 --> 00:30:17,914 Speaker 5: living in that poll for. 664 00:30:18,114 --> 00:30:20,274 Speaker 2: Years they're not touched and they take the thing and 665 00:30:20,314 --> 00:30:21,834 Speaker 2: it's like the color of the pool. 666 00:30:22,074 --> 00:30:26,794 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's green slime, it's thick, it's gross. And this 667 00:30:26,914 --> 00:30:29,994 Speaker 1: guy just he just fixes your pull and you go. 668 00:30:30,234 --> 00:30:33,194 Speaker 1: You are a man who knows his purpose. You film it. 669 00:30:33,274 --> 00:30:35,234 Speaker 2: Thank you for that. Sometimes it gets a cup of 670 00:30:35,234 --> 00:30:38,674 Speaker 2: tea and by the end the pools is always clean. 671 00:30:38,874 --> 00:30:42,554 Speaker 2: I think that's just a job we'd all like to haveeah. 672 00:30:41,514 --> 00:30:43,194 Speaker 1: And I think part of the thing that gets me 673 00:30:43,234 --> 00:30:45,314 Speaker 1: with those is the pressure washing section. 674 00:30:46,514 --> 00:30:49,994 Speaker 4: And then they write names and your pictures. Oh my god. 675 00:30:50,074 --> 00:30:53,274 Speaker 5: Yeah, but then if they miss a tiny spot ruins 676 00:30:53,274 --> 00:30:53,714 Speaker 5: the whole video. 677 00:30:53,794 --> 00:30:54,394 Speaker 2: It ruins it. 678 00:30:54,514 --> 00:30:54,754 Speaker 3: Yeah. 679 00:30:55,274 --> 00:30:55,434 Speaker 2: Real. 680 00:30:55,554 --> 00:30:57,554 Speaker 1: But on the same theme, I just want to give 681 00:30:57,594 --> 00:31:02,154 Speaker 1: a special mention to Kate McKinnon, comedian sat It Live alumni. 682 00:31:02,714 --> 00:31:06,794 Speaker 1: She mentioned an Australian account on Aby Polar's podcast, Good Hang, 683 00:31:07,434 --> 00:31:12,634 Speaker 1: it is drain cleaning Australia. 684 00:31:12,474 --> 00:31:14,154 Speaker 3: Or what do you know? Look at that. 685 00:31:14,274 --> 00:31:16,194 Speaker 1: We've got her block drain and we've got a dog 686 00:31:16,274 --> 00:31:18,634 Speaker 1: the size of a peanut that wants to rip my 687 00:31:18,714 --> 00:31:19,114 Speaker 1: head off. 688 00:31:19,154 --> 00:31:21,954 Speaker 5: Mate, and look at the state of this usual story. 689 00:31:22,074 --> 00:31:24,354 Speaker 2: Another plumber's been out here, he's failed. 690 00:31:24,514 --> 00:31:26,754 Speaker 1: Let's go for a wander and get it sorted gorz. 691 00:31:27,034 --> 00:31:29,634 Speaker 1: She has been commended for her excellent Australian accent when 692 00:31:29,674 --> 00:31:32,354 Speaker 1: imitating this feeling, because he's got a very irwin esque 693 00:31:32,434 --> 00:31:35,194 Speaker 1: vibe about him, like he's really upbeat about this really filthy, 694 00:31:35,234 --> 00:31:37,994 Speaker 1: disgusting job that he has and he's all like, guys, 695 00:31:38,874 --> 00:31:41,634 Speaker 1: that's a real big clog in this one. Let's get 696 00:31:41,794 --> 00:31:46,594 Speaker 1: out and then like this giant, I don't know, fur hair, tree, root, 697 00:31:46,674 --> 00:31:49,114 Speaker 1: whatever happens to be clogging said, drain comes out. And 698 00:31:49,154 --> 00:31:51,834 Speaker 1: the satisfaction you get when things start to flow freely 699 00:31:51,954 --> 00:31:54,954 Speaker 1: is like it just soothes the soul. Do you know 700 00:31:55,034 --> 00:31:59,154 Speaker 1: where Kate McKinnon got good at Australian accents? You know 701 00:31:59,234 --> 00:32:01,594 Speaker 1: that she was interviewed. Kate McKinnon was interviewed on a 702 00:32:01,674 --> 00:32:04,194 Speaker 1: late night show and she had done an Australian accent 703 00:32:04,234 --> 00:32:06,754 Speaker 1: for a movie maybe five years ago. They said, how 704 00:32:06,794 --> 00:32:08,354 Speaker 1: did you get so good? And she said, I listened 705 00:32:08,354 --> 00:32:10,874 Speaker 1: to this Australian podcast called No Filter and. 706 00:32:10,834 --> 00:32:13,554 Speaker 2: She's cited our very own Mayor Friedman. 707 00:32:13,674 --> 00:32:16,554 Speaker 1: That's how she did it. Stop. Yeah, I'll have. 708 00:32:16,474 --> 00:32:17,234 Speaker 2: To find the footage. 709 00:32:17,754 --> 00:32:20,634 Speaker 4: An Australian accident to me is. 710 00:32:20,994 --> 00:32:24,394 Speaker 2: Got She've cited No Filter as the podcast she listened to. 711 00:32:24,474 --> 00:32:29,034 Speaker 2: I'll never forget it. That's so funny about it. She's 712 00:32:29,114 --> 00:32:29,594 Speaker 2: so fad. 713 00:32:30,034 --> 00:32:31,914 Speaker 1: That is so fun a right, Jesse add to the list. 714 00:32:31,914 --> 00:32:33,554 Speaker 1: I'm still curating, so. 715 00:32:34,314 --> 00:32:38,034 Speaker 2: My algorithm is completely thrown out because, as we all know, 716 00:32:38,834 --> 00:32:42,114 Speaker 2: the algorithm smells you looks you in the eye, and 717 00:32:42,154 --> 00:32:44,994 Speaker 2: it goes you're pregnant with twins. The things if you 718 00:32:45,034 --> 00:32:48,194 Speaker 2: took my phone for fifteen minutes, the things you would 719 00:32:48,274 --> 00:32:52,274 Speaker 2: learn about twin pregnancies about I don't know if I've 720 00:32:52,274 --> 00:32:54,274 Speaker 2: asked you guys this yet. Do you know if you 721 00:32:54,354 --> 00:32:57,194 Speaker 2: go twin placenta, twin pla center or twin twin center. 722 00:32:58,194 --> 00:33:00,154 Speaker 4: I asked you that I don't know what these words 723 00:33:00,194 --> 00:33:02,034 Speaker 4: mean that you're words. 724 00:33:02,274 --> 00:33:05,314 Speaker 1: I know the words individually, I said, but when you 725 00:33:05,354 --> 00:33:07,474 Speaker 1: put them together, not so much. Claire. 726 00:33:07,754 --> 00:33:10,954 Speaker 2: You've given birth a baby. And then the came out. 727 00:33:10,954 --> 00:33:13,994 Speaker 1: Correct, Sure, yes, I looked at it and it was amazing. Yes, 728 00:33:13,994 --> 00:33:15,114 Speaker 1: and get it. 729 00:33:18,554 --> 00:33:20,354 Speaker 4: Surely it's twin percent of twin percenter. 730 00:33:20,514 --> 00:33:25,354 Speaker 2: Surely that was also my bed. No incorrect, twin twin 731 00:33:26,434 --> 00:33:29,954 Speaker 2: center percenter. Yeah, yeah, okay, so this is the ship 732 00:33:29,994 --> 00:33:30,754 Speaker 2: that we're learning. 733 00:33:30,794 --> 00:33:32,874 Speaker 4: I forgot you have to do that as well. So 734 00:33:32,914 --> 00:33:34,394 Speaker 4: you're like four. 735 00:33:34,154 --> 00:33:36,874 Speaker 2: Times yes, exactly right. They each have their own placenta 736 00:33:37,474 --> 00:33:39,034 Speaker 2: and often it fuses. By the end. 737 00:33:39,194 --> 00:33:41,594 Speaker 1: This is none of this I know from my obstetrition. 738 00:33:43,434 --> 00:33:47,154 Speaker 2: Of fuses. By the end, I am learning about things 739 00:33:47,194 --> 00:33:49,994 Speaker 2: that I wouldn't have even thought how do you pick 740 00:33:50,074 --> 00:33:53,874 Speaker 2: up newborn twins? And there's a system. There's a system 741 00:33:53,914 --> 00:33:55,514 Speaker 2: of like how oh, you can do it like this, 742 00:33:55,634 --> 00:33:56,994 Speaker 2: or you can do it like that, and you've kind 743 00:33:56,994 --> 00:33:58,634 Speaker 2: of got to have them on the bed and then 744 00:33:58,634 --> 00:34:01,074 Speaker 2: you kind of get them into this thing. How about 745 00:34:01,234 --> 00:34:02,474 Speaker 2: the breastfeeding. 746 00:34:01,954 --> 00:34:04,594 Speaker 1: Positions like the foot hold hold. 747 00:34:05,114 --> 00:34:08,074 Speaker 2: Yes, I assumed I would be cradling them both and 748 00:34:08,114 --> 00:34:10,113 Speaker 2: their feet would be going inwards, but no, no, no, 749 00:34:10,354 --> 00:34:11,433 Speaker 2: their feet go outwards. 750 00:34:11,674 --> 00:34:13,073 Speaker 1: And then I've got the other I. 751 00:34:12,994 --> 00:34:17,834 Speaker 5: Have a breastfeeding question. It's one boob preferred over the other. 752 00:34:18,274 --> 00:34:20,634 Speaker 2: It was with lunar and it often is with a 753 00:34:20,674 --> 00:34:21,754 Speaker 2: single baby. 754 00:34:21,914 --> 00:34:22,194 Speaker 1: Yep. 755 00:34:22,234 --> 00:34:24,873 Speaker 2: But there is something with twin feeding which I've learnt 756 00:34:24,914 --> 00:34:29,154 Speaker 2: from my midwife, TikTok, that is called tandem feeding, and 757 00:34:29,234 --> 00:34:32,154 Speaker 2: so that's the goal. Tandem feeding means you do the 758 00:34:32,234 --> 00:34:32,714 Speaker 2: both sides. 759 00:34:32,954 --> 00:34:35,234 Speaker 1: So you don't want to like breastfeed one, put them down, 760 00:34:35,354 --> 00:34:37,433 Speaker 1: pick up the next one. Yeah, like you want to 761 00:34:37,674 --> 00:34:39,234 Speaker 1: suction one simultaneously. 762 00:34:39,354 --> 00:34:41,993 Speaker 2: That would be the best because of its efficiency, right 763 00:34:42,114 --> 00:34:43,714 Speaker 2: of course. And then I've got the It. 764 00:34:43,674 --> 00:34:45,314 Speaker 4: Looks like something that should be like on a cover 765 00:34:45,394 --> 00:34:48,514 Speaker 4: of a magazine. It does like holding your two twins there. 766 00:34:48,474 --> 00:34:50,994 Speaker 2: Yes, on my cover of Okay magazine, which I've mean 767 00:34:51,434 --> 00:34:54,914 Speaker 2: way to get. I feel like I should be standing 768 00:34:54,914 --> 00:34:57,834 Speaker 2: there with my freak show twin family and then my 769 00:34:57,914 --> 00:35:01,074 Speaker 2: two twins on the boob. Not that I think that 770 00:35:01,074 --> 00:35:03,194 Speaker 2: that will work, because my midwife TikTok told me that 771 00:35:03,234 --> 00:35:05,594 Speaker 2: it's actually really hard, And so then I get every 772 00:35:05,634 --> 00:35:07,834 Speaker 2: month rated out of ten how hard it is? Like 773 00:35:07,874 --> 00:35:08,393 Speaker 2: how hard is. 774 00:35:08,394 --> 00:35:10,553 Speaker 1: The first month and the second month and the third month. 775 00:35:10,994 --> 00:35:14,274 Speaker 2: I also got like a night where I'm like solo 776 00:35:14,514 --> 00:35:17,913 Speaker 2: parenting twins that are seven months old, and I'll just. 777 00:35:17,914 --> 00:35:21,434 Speaker 1: Get goat so exhausted for you right now, I can't even. 778 00:35:21,354 --> 00:35:27,234 Speaker 2: It is so overwhelming. But also like a vlog, yeah. 779 00:35:27,434 --> 00:35:29,714 Speaker 4: So they're able to do that, but also vlog. 780 00:35:29,634 --> 00:35:32,274 Speaker 2: Yes, you can do it. 781 00:35:32,394 --> 00:35:34,074 Speaker 1: They had a hand at some point. 782 00:35:34,354 --> 00:35:38,074 Speaker 2: So to your point, m the internet is a dark, 783 00:35:38,194 --> 00:35:40,873 Speaker 2: terrible place of which has made our life worse in 784 00:35:40,874 --> 00:35:44,913 Speaker 2: lots of ways. But wouldn't you also say helpful, yes, 785 00:35:44,954 --> 00:35:48,114 Speaker 2: slightly helpful yes. So this is what I'll say, is 786 00:35:48,154 --> 00:35:50,994 Speaker 2: you find yourself in this news life stage, which my 787 00:35:51,514 --> 00:35:55,473 Speaker 2: mum did thirty five years ago, terrified. I have an 788 00:35:55,514 --> 00:35:58,594 Speaker 2: algorithm going I'm going to tell you what you need 789 00:35:58,634 --> 00:36:00,114 Speaker 2: to know the second before you need to know it. 790 00:36:00,354 --> 00:36:04,754 Speaker 2: I actually find it with these deep niche communities, which 791 00:36:05,034 --> 00:36:09,234 Speaker 2: the twin thing is incredibly helpful. Like this is what 792 00:36:09,274 --> 00:36:12,194 Speaker 2: the internet is best for. It is like creating communities 793 00:36:12,434 --> 00:36:16,354 Speaker 2: across countries, across ethnicities, across all of it, where you 794 00:36:16,474 --> 00:36:22,394 Speaker 2: just go this twin mom in Canada can help Jesse. Yeah, breastfeet. 795 00:36:22,474 --> 00:36:25,034 Speaker 5: There's also one that I'm actually really embarrassed about that 796 00:36:25,074 --> 00:36:25,714 Speaker 5: I want to talk about. 797 00:36:26,394 --> 00:36:28,433 Speaker 4: Have you seen this guy? His name is Nate the 798 00:36:28,474 --> 00:36:28,953 Speaker 4: hoof Guy. 799 00:36:29,594 --> 00:36:31,714 Speaker 1: No, I think I've seen Nate the hoof guy. 800 00:36:31,914 --> 00:36:32,234 Speaker 4: Okay. 801 00:36:32,354 --> 00:36:35,154 Speaker 1: Is he like a hot farrier? I don't know what 802 00:36:35,194 --> 00:36:38,314 Speaker 1: a farrier is, someone like takes care of horse's feet 803 00:36:38,634 --> 00:36:41,674 Speaker 1: kind of, but cows, Oh, cows different. 804 00:36:41,794 --> 00:36:42,513 Speaker 4: He's like this. 805 00:36:42,554 --> 00:36:45,834 Speaker 5: Vet and he deals with like cow's hoofs that have 806 00:36:45,914 --> 00:36:46,634 Speaker 5: been infected. 807 00:36:47,394 --> 00:36:49,474 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, okay, I've come across. 808 00:36:49,274 --> 00:36:51,913 Speaker 5: And he puts the hoof up. And he's also like educational. Also, 809 00:36:51,954 --> 00:36:53,433 Speaker 5: he's teaching you what the impection is. 810 00:36:53,954 --> 00:36:56,473 Speaker 6: After watching this cow limp into the shoot and after 811 00:36:56,474 --> 00:37:00,834 Speaker 6: picking up this foot, the problem seemed pretty obvious. However, 812 00:37:01,314 --> 00:37:03,714 Speaker 6: I wasn't ready for the fluid. There was a boat 813 00:37:03,714 --> 00:37:06,594 Speaker 6: to spray out Welcome back to Nat. 814 00:37:06,634 --> 00:37:08,074 Speaker 4: The hoofgame and I. 815 00:37:08,074 --> 00:37:11,794 Speaker 5: Watch this video sometimes with my friends and we try 816 00:37:11,794 --> 00:37:14,194 Speaker 5: to guess what's wrong with the hoop before it happens, 817 00:37:14,554 --> 00:37:17,234 Speaker 5: and it's so it's like we're wrong every single time, 818 00:37:17,234 --> 00:37:19,473 Speaker 5: because this guy's an experts. You'll see a hoof and 819 00:37:19,514 --> 00:37:21,913 Speaker 5: you'll clean it and it looks perfect, and you're like, oh, 820 00:37:21,994 --> 00:37:23,114 Speaker 5: she probably just has a splinter. 821 00:37:23,394 --> 00:37:25,114 Speaker 4: And then you'll be like, I bet you know what's 822 00:37:25,154 --> 00:37:27,194 Speaker 4: wrong with this one? How could you not tell? 823 00:37:27,354 --> 00:37:29,954 Speaker 5: And it'll be like this massive infection that just comes 824 00:37:29,994 --> 00:37:30,634 Speaker 5: out of it. 825 00:37:30,674 --> 00:37:32,634 Speaker 1: Is this the one that like he like scrapes down 826 00:37:32,674 --> 00:37:35,154 Speaker 1: until eventually the infection like bursts open. 827 00:37:35,554 --> 00:37:35,874 Speaker 3: Yeah. 828 00:37:36,434 --> 00:37:38,634 Speaker 5: Yeah, So he files it down and then you get 829 00:37:38,674 --> 00:37:41,114 Speaker 5: to like the juicy like pussy area, and then he 830 00:37:41,154 --> 00:37:42,194 Speaker 5: pushes it and all this. 831 00:37:42,154 --> 00:37:43,354 Speaker 4: Like stuff comes out. 832 00:37:43,274 --> 00:37:45,913 Speaker 1: And that's like that will never come up in your day. 833 00:37:45,834 --> 00:37:46,913 Speaker 4: To day life, never come up. 834 00:37:46,954 --> 00:37:49,034 Speaker 5: And then he like treats it and then he's like, 835 00:37:49,074 --> 00:37:51,114 Speaker 5: she's not in pain, she's just uncomfortable. 836 00:37:51,434 --> 00:37:52,913 Speaker 4: That's why she's mooing so much. 837 00:37:53,874 --> 00:37:57,274 Speaker 5: I like that fountain so good, and it's so pleasing 838 00:37:57,274 --> 00:37:58,834 Speaker 5: because you see the infection and then he just like 839 00:37:58,874 --> 00:37:59,834 Speaker 5: scoops it all up. 840 00:37:59,994 --> 00:38:01,954 Speaker 1: I can't believe it hasn't led you to hot Farrier. 841 00:38:04,034 --> 00:38:08,274 Speaker 1: He's like full sleeve tattoo, incredibly built dude who just 842 00:38:08,794 --> 00:38:11,354 Speaker 1: like trims horses hoofs. And then when I got that, 843 00:38:11,354 --> 00:38:13,834 Speaker 1: that led me to Thaw the axe chopping guy. 844 00:38:13,994 --> 00:38:17,194 Speaker 4: Yes, the axe chopping guy so hot. Yeah. All he 845 00:38:17,314 --> 00:38:19,913 Speaker 4: does is just chop wood and then breaks it with 846 00:38:19,954 --> 00:38:20,873 Speaker 4: his hands and it gets like. 847 00:38:21,274 --> 00:38:25,234 Speaker 1: With his fair hands with no shirt on sometimes just 848 00:38:25,314 --> 00:38:26,794 Speaker 1: like the suspenders and the pants. 849 00:38:26,834 --> 00:38:29,714 Speaker 5: Yeah, and he's like sweating and he's like breathing so heavily, 850 00:38:29,754 --> 00:38:31,434 Speaker 5: and he like gross every time. 851 00:38:32,354 --> 00:38:34,314 Speaker 2: But guys, do you want to see what someone looks 852 00:38:34,354 --> 00:38:37,433 Speaker 2: like at twenty five weeks and three days pregnant with 853 00:38:37,874 --> 00:38:38,714 Speaker 2: Do you want to say that? 854 00:38:38,914 --> 00:38:41,114 Speaker 4: Yeah, your algorithm sounds really feeling right. 855 00:38:44,074 --> 00:38:46,914 Speaker 1: So we had some like fun crowdsourcing from around the 856 00:38:46,954 --> 00:38:48,954 Speaker 1: mom and Mere office as to what had landed in 857 00:38:48,994 --> 00:38:54,674 Speaker 1: other people's algorithms. Honorable mention to rating crunchy autumnal leave. Yes, 858 00:38:54,714 --> 00:38:57,473 Speaker 1: I like like just jumping into big piles of crunchy leaves. 859 00:38:57,754 --> 00:39:00,434 Speaker 1: Stick Nation, which I didn't know existed, is where people 860 00:39:00,634 --> 00:39:04,274 Speaker 1: just show their favorite stick and people like comment on it, 861 00:39:04,434 --> 00:39:06,074 Speaker 1: which is hilarious. 862 00:39:05,554 --> 00:39:08,513 Speaker 2: Claire, that Phil Spoon adjacent, which fills up. 863 00:39:09,274 --> 00:39:11,714 Speaker 4: Don't judge the stick people, Claire, but. 864 00:39:11,674 --> 00:39:14,194 Speaker 1: Also to I fully understand what makes a good stick, 865 00:39:14,314 --> 00:39:14,993 Speaker 1: and I don't know. 866 00:39:14,954 --> 00:39:19,394 Speaker 4: Why, but I think it's girth like girth on a stick. 867 00:39:19,754 --> 00:39:21,634 Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want too much girth on a stick 868 00:39:21,714 --> 00:39:22,754 Speaker 1: because it becomes a log. 869 00:39:23,074 --> 00:39:27,913 Speaker 2: Yeah, true, true, you could honestly live in the wilderness 870 00:39:27,954 --> 00:39:30,794 Speaker 2: with your knowledge of that. And who I don't know, 871 00:39:31,394 --> 00:39:32,474 Speaker 2: You're not a city gowt. 872 00:39:33,354 --> 00:39:35,514 Speaker 4: Maybe I'm not. Just give me a cow and a 873 00:39:35,554 --> 00:39:36,474 Speaker 4: log and I'm good to go. 874 00:39:36,874 --> 00:39:39,714 Speaker 1: We did have our hot Fairier and our hot axe man. 875 00:39:39,874 --> 00:39:42,234 Speaker 1: But can we just give an honorable mention also to 876 00:39:42,314 --> 00:39:45,754 Speaker 1: the dilfs of Disneyland and that requires no further explanation. 877 00:39:46,234 --> 00:39:46,714 Speaker 1: I love it. 878 00:39:46,754 --> 00:39:48,634 Speaker 2: I love it out louders. Please let us know in 879 00:39:48,674 --> 00:39:53,074 Speaker 2: the group, what like weird side of Instagram or TikTok 880 00:39:53,114 --> 00:39:56,314 Speaker 2: you found yourself on that you just you find oddly satisfying. 881 00:39:56,794 --> 00:39:58,393 Speaker 2: I think some of us need to shake up our 882 00:39:58,434 --> 00:39:59,554 Speaker 2: algorithms a little bit. 883 00:39:59,794 --> 00:40:02,354 Speaker 1: Yeah, just look up hot axe guy and things will 884 00:40:02,354 --> 00:40:02,994 Speaker 1: start changing. 885 00:40:03,114 --> 00:40:06,954 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, Yeah, we will be back in your ears tomorrow. 886 00:40:12,794 --> 00:40:15,754 Speaker 2: Mar Mayer acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on 887 00:40:15,834 --> 00:40:17,674 Speaker 2: which we have recorded this podcast.