1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:11,424 Speaker 1: So much. 2 00:00:11,424 --> 00:00:14,104 Speaker 2: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. 3 00:00:14,744 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 1: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 4 00:00:18,704 --> 00:00:26,544 Speaker 1: that this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome 5 00:00:26,584 --> 00:00:29,464 Speaker 1: to this bill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura 6 00:00:29,464 --> 00:00:31,104 Speaker 1: Brodnick and today I'm joined. 7 00:00:30,864 --> 00:00:32,344 Speaker 2: By Tina Previs. 8 00:00:32,864 --> 00:00:34,504 Speaker 1: And Tina's here because we have a lot of your 9 00:00:34,544 --> 00:00:36,224 Speaker 1: I think things that you'd be very interested in to 10 00:00:36,304 --> 00:00:37,904 Speaker 1: chat about today, So we had to have you on 11 00:00:37,944 --> 00:00:40,544 Speaker 1: the show because we are doing the Selena Gomez and 12 00:00:40,584 --> 00:00:43,584 Speaker 1: Hailey Beaber beef has heated up again. This time it's 13 00:00:43,624 --> 00:00:45,184 Speaker 1: on them, so we're going to get into that, no 14 00:00:45,304 --> 00:00:47,824 Speaker 1: more blaming the people for bringing it up. Plus, a 15 00:00:47,944 --> 00:00:50,784 Speaker 1: very fancy red carpet happened over the weekend. It seems 16 00:00:50,784 --> 00:00:53,504 Speaker 1: that Los Angeles is trying to steal the title of 17 00:00:53,544 --> 00:00:56,024 Speaker 1: most Fashionable event from the met Gala. So we get 18 00:00:56,024 --> 00:00:57,744 Speaker 1: to get into that, the best and worst stress and 19 00:00:57,784 --> 00:01:00,984 Speaker 1: one very surprising look. But first you had a very 20 00:01:01,144 --> 00:01:03,624 Speaker 1: important news story that you wanted to bring to the table. 21 00:01:04,424 --> 00:01:07,304 Speaker 3: Over the weekend, Friday Lives dominated my feed, with the 22 00:01:07,424 --> 00:01:10,784 Speaker 3: Sydney and Brisbane shows still to come in Perth, Melbourne. 23 00:01:10,784 --> 00:01:12,504 Speaker 2: But I've never seen anything like it. 24 00:01:12,744 --> 00:01:16,464 Speaker 3: Had an incredible lineup Mariah Carey with Khalifa and most 25 00:01:16,624 --> 00:01:20,864 Speaker 3: notably Pitbull. I have never seen more people dressed up 26 00:01:20,944 --> 00:01:24,784 Speaker 3: in ball caps, business shirts and blazers, and the hardcore 27 00:01:24,864 --> 00:01:27,224 Speaker 3: fans had mustaches drawn on. 28 00:01:27,344 --> 00:01:28,784 Speaker 2: I love the commitment to the bit. 29 00:01:29,184 --> 00:01:30,744 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't aware, like love you say, I know 30 00:01:30,744 --> 00:01:33,184 Speaker 1: people love Pitbull, but I wasn't aware how much Australian 31 00:01:33,224 --> 00:01:37,224 Speaker 1: audiences just love this man and the rush on bald 32 00:01:37,224 --> 00:01:39,704 Speaker 1: caps that everyone was getting into it even on like 33 00:01:39,744 --> 00:01:42,064 Speaker 1: not just on all my social feeds, it was even 34 00:01:42,064 --> 00:01:44,184 Speaker 1: on like Primetime News. They had people down at all 35 00:01:44,184 --> 00:01:46,344 Speaker 1: like the train stations and it's just like a central 36 00:01:46,384 --> 00:01:50,424 Speaker 1: station in Sydney, just to see if people in ball caps. 37 00:01:50,944 --> 00:01:52,904 Speaker 1: Has he had a resurgence with like the younger Jen 38 00:01:53,064 --> 00:01:54,904 Speaker 1: or you think this is like the die hard pit 39 00:01:54,984 --> 00:01:56,624 Speaker 1: Bull like people in their thirties and forties. 40 00:01:56,864 --> 00:01:59,544 Speaker 3: I think there's definitely a resurgence. And it was something 41 00:01:59,624 --> 00:02:02,184 Speaker 3: that I've even seen him comment online. You know, after 42 00:02:02,224 --> 00:02:05,824 Speaker 3: having such a long career, you know, it's significant that 43 00:02:05,864 --> 00:02:08,224 Speaker 3: he is having this resurgence and seeing the fans show 44 00:02:08,304 --> 00:02:10,104 Speaker 3: up in this way, and I think it also speaks 45 00:02:10,144 --> 00:02:14,144 Speaker 3: to how fan experience is becoming a big part of 46 00:02:14,304 --> 00:02:16,984 Speaker 3: going to concerts, like obviously with Taylor Swift, all the 47 00:02:16,984 --> 00:02:21,424 Speaker 3: Swifties with their sequence outfits and like friendship bracelets, it's 48 00:02:21,464 --> 00:02:23,864 Speaker 3: becoming much more of like a sense of community. 49 00:02:24,224 --> 00:02:26,024 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. I think that's why with 50 00:02:26,024 --> 00:02:28,824 Speaker 1: the whole Taylor Swift movie release to celebrate her album Yea, 51 00:02:28,824 --> 00:02:31,184 Speaker 1: which was pretty much just lyric videos on stage, like 52 00:02:31,224 --> 00:02:33,424 Speaker 1: a bit of her lyric videos on the screen and 53 00:02:33,464 --> 00:02:35,304 Speaker 1: like a bit of her chatting about the songs and 54 00:02:35,344 --> 00:02:37,624 Speaker 1: then a music clip. That's all it was. But the 55 00:02:37,664 --> 00:02:39,984 Speaker 1: reason so many fans went to the cinema is they 56 00:02:40,024 --> 00:02:42,184 Speaker 1: just wanted to recreate how they felt their errors too 57 00:02:42,224 --> 00:02:44,024 Speaker 1: us you and everyone was like dressed up in their outfits, 58 00:02:44,184 --> 00:02:46,224 Speaker 1: giving out the friendship bracelets, just wanting to be in 59 00:02:46,224 --> 00:02:48,904 Speaker 1: the cinema together, like people are craving community. I just 60 00:02:48,904 --> 00:02:50,864 Speaker 1: didn't know there was a pit Bull community. Actually the 61 00:02:50,864 --> 00:02:53,264 Speaker 1: first time I get knew at the fan and just 62 00:02:53,304 --> 00:02:55,424 Speaker 1: didn't know about the outfits. Yeah. The first I heard 63 00:02:55,464 --> 00:02:59,344 Speaker 1: of all this was producer Manisha was like all a 64 00:02:59,344 --> 00:03:01,264 Speaker 1: foster at the end of last week because she had 65 00:03:01,264 --> 00:03:03,184 Speaker 1: friends coming into town. She had to go buy her 66 00:03:03,224 --> 00:03:04,584 Speaker 1: ball cap. And this is the first time I heard 67 00:03:04,624 --> 00:03:05,264 Speaker 1: of the ball cap. 68 00:03:05,344 --> 00:03:05,984 Speaker 2: It's a whole thing. 69 00:03:06,064 --> 00:03:07,984 Speaker 1: And I said to Manisha, I'm like, you allowed, is 70 00:03:08,024 --> 00:03:08,584 Speaker 1: that offensive? 71 00:03:08,624 --> 00:03:12,184 Speaker 3: And she's like the old community, Yeah, she's calling out 72 00:03:12,264 --> 00:03:13,184 Speaker 3: pit Bull loves it. 73 00:03:13,384 --> 00:03:14,984 Speaker 1: Did that live up to your hypna? How did you 74 00:03:14,984 --> 00:03:16,384 Speaker 1: look at a ball cap? First of all, I haven't 75 00:03:16,384 --> 00:03:16,824 Speaker 1: seen a pick. 76 00:03:17,024 --> 00:03:18,664 Speaker 4: Well interesting to read the board cap. 77 00:03:18,704 --> 00:03:20,064 Speaker 5: I'd left it a bit late, and I felt like 78 00:03:20,064 --> 00:03:23,504 Speaker 5: everyone had a ready they actually, I actually thought, but 79 00:03:24,544 --> 00:03:26,984 Speaker 5: went to my local bottle store. So this is a 80 00:03:27,024 --> 00:03:31,424 Speaker 5: real lesson in supporting independence. When we bought alcohol, they 81 00:03:31,424 --> 00:03:33,544 Speaker 5: gave us boald cap what they gave. 82 00:03:33,424 --> 00:03:35,184 Speaker 4: Us ball caps that said fireball whiskey. 83 00:03:35,304 --> 00:03:36,384 Speaker 2: No way, because. 84 00:03:36,264 --> 00:03:39,264 Speaker 1: Oh man, he's branding is off the charts at the moment. 85 00:03:39,464 --> 00:03:39,864 Speaker 4: Crazy. 86 00:03:40,064 --> 00:03:41,744 Speaker 5: I didn't commit to the point of the people who 87 00:03:41,824 --> 00:03:43,664 Speaker 5: like went there, like I just put it on during 88 00:03:43,664 --> 00:03:44,344 Speaker 5: pit Bull, I was like. 89 00:03:47,784 --> 00:03:49,664 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder what the other performers, like Jordan's on 90 00:03:49,704 --> 00:03:51,624 Speaker 1: stage trying to sing on music and then just looks out. 91 00:03:51,704 --> 00:03:52,504 Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking. 92 00:03:53,664 --> 00:03:56,784 Speaker 3: And people calls them his baldies as well, like he's 93 00:03:56,824 --> 00:03:58,264 Speaker 3: got a name, he has an affectionate name. 94 00:03:58,304 --> 00:03:59,064 Speaker 2: For them, which I love. 95 00:03:59,184 --> 00:04:02,224 Speaker 4: He shouted us out. He's like, thank you, Baldies. He's 96 00:04:02,304 --> 00:04:04,744 Speaker 4: quite a deep man, like when you think about it, 97 00:04:05,024 --> 00:04:06,464 Speaker 4: no he to it. 98 00:04:06,624 --> 00:04:10,464 Speaker 5: He crosses between musician and motivational speaker, like in between. 99 00:04:10,144 --> 00:04:11,704 Speaker 4: His soil to a little thing. 100 00:04:11,744 --> 00:04:14,704 Speaker 5: And he talked about how he like built this school overseas. 101 00:04:14,904 --> 00:04:15,624 Speaker 1: I'm sensing you. 102 00:04:15,584 --> 00:04:18,424 Speaker 2: Had a life altering occasion over the weekend. 103 00:04:18,584 --> 00:04:19,264 Speaker 1: It really was. 104 00:04:19,384 --> 00:04:21,424 Speaker 5: Every time he would go away and then come back 105 00:04:21,424 --> 00:04:23,264 Speaker 5: out on stage, I was like, thank god it's not over. 106 00:04:23,584 --> 00:04:26,544 Speaker 4: Yeah, thank god this set is not over. And then 107 00:04:26,584 --> 00:04:29,264 Speaker 4: everyone started leaving before Mariah Carey, I. 108 00:04:29,704 --> 00:04:32,304 Speaker 1: Hear about it, because I didn't hear this story until 109 00:04:32,304 --> 00:04:34,184 Speaker 1: you guys were just talking about it today. So I 110 00:04:34,224 --> 00:04:36,464 Speaker 1: would have thought Mariah would have been like one of 111 00:04:36,504 --> 00:04:38,744 Speaker 1: the main events, did you stay in watch or did 112 00:04:38,784 --> 00:04:39,144 Speaker 1: you leave? 113 00:04:39,384 --> 00:04:41,744 Speaker 4: I stayed, So Mariah was the last. 114 00:04:41,464 --> 00:04:43,424 Speaker 1: So she's thing to do just so you don't exactly. 115 00:04:43,464 --> 00:04:44,464 Speaker 4: I was like, guys, this is rude. 116 00:04:44,504 --> 00:04:47,144 Speaker 5: She's an icon, Like, well, stay for Mariah, but she 117 00:04:47,264 --> 00:04:48,904 Speaker 5: came on last because I don't reckon she would have 118 00:04:48,904 --> 00:04:51,184 Speaker 5: agreed to feel her style. 119 00:04:51,424 --> 00:04:53,344 Speaker 4: But people were leaving. All the Baldies were kind of 120 00:04:53,384 --> 00:04:55,584 Speaker 4: scarming out. I will say she was. 121 00:04:55,904 --> 00:04:58,504 Speaker 5: People always talk about how Mariah Carrey. Obviously she's a 122 00:04:58,544 --> 00:05:00,984 Speaker 5: beautiful voice, but Candy a little bit awkward on the 123 00:05:00,984 --> 00:05:03,264 Speaker 5: stage at the moment, like she was doing some weird 124 00:05:03,304 --> 00:05:05,424 Speaker 5: walking around like that was all quite interesting. 125 00:05:05,984 --> 00:05:07,584 Speaker 1: But what do you mean? Did she kind of just 126 00:05:07,584 --> 00:05:08,944 Speaker 1: look like a bit out of it or she just 127 00:05:08,984 --> 00:05:10,064 Speaker 1: sound like she didn't really care. 128 00:05:10,344 --> 00:05:11,144 Speaker 4: He looked pretty out of it. 129 00:05:11,224 --> 00:05:13,344 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. Maybe the Jedli got her. 130 00:05:13,584 --> 00:05:14,304 Speaker 4: I think it might have. 131 00:05:14,464 --> 00:05:16,744 Speaker 5: But interestingly, she didn't do All I Want for Christmas 132 00:05:16,784 --> 00:05:19,784 Speaker 5: Is You in her Brisbane show, but she did in 133 00:05:19,824 --> 00:05:20,704 Speaker 5: the Sydney show. 134 00:05:20,504 --> 00:05:22,744 Speaker 4: And everyone was so excited. I had actually been like, okay, 135 00:05:22,744 --> 00:05:24,984 Speaker 4: it's over, she's leaving, went to. 136 00:05:24,904 --> 00:05:25,624 Speaker 1: Go to the bathroom. 137 00:05:25,664 --> 00:05:26,984 Speaker 4: I'm in the line for the bathroom. I hear the 138 00:05:27,064 --> 00:05:30,024 Speaker 4: opening bar of All I Want for Christmas speed back. 139 00:05:30,104 --> 00:05:32,384 Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, and we like rush 140 00:05:32,504 --> 00:05:33,064 Speaker 4: back to the. 141 00:05:35,144 --> 00:05:36,944 Speaker 1: That would have been worth the ticket price just that 142 00:05:37,104 --> 00:05:37,704 Speaker 1: it was magical. 143 00:05:37,744 --> 00:05:38,464 Speaker 2: It was like being in love. 144 00:05:38,504 --> 00:05:40,504 Speaker 3: Actually, I feel like it would throw me off a 145 00:05:40,544 --> 00:05:42,744 Speaker 3: bit because we are in October and I'm not ready 146 00:05:42,744 --> 00:05:44,064 Speaker 3: to be there yet. 147 00:05:44,144 --> 00:05:46,584 Speaker 2: I'm not there yet, but you have to embrace that moment. 148 00:05:46,624 --> 00:05:48,664 Speaker 1: When the time I would be like, it's way too 149 00:05:48,664 --> 00:05:50,424 Speaker 1: early for a Christmas song, but I think like, if 150 00:05:50,464 --> 00:05:52,744 Speaker 1: you've got Maria in she's there like that, you have 151 00:05:52,824 --> 00:05:54,584 Speaker 1: to take that that opportunity. 152 00:05:54,744 --> 00:05:57,264 Speaker 5: And yet still even with that song, the whole set 153 00:05:57,304 --> 00:05:58,824 Speaker 5: of hers didn't compare Miss Worldwide. 154 00:05:58,904 --> 00:06:00,984 Speaker 4: I'm sorry world fine with it? 155 00:06:01,464 --> 00:06:03,504 Speaker 2: Wow, I didn't think we were living in that world. 156 00:06:04,144 --> 00:06:07,104 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'm happy for Pitbull fans that they got 157 00:06:07,104 --> 00:06:09,424 Speaker 1: their baldy moment. If you're a real fan, you would 158 00:06:09,464 --> 00:06:11,104 Speaker 1: have won that cap in today. To be on camera. 159 00:06:12,384 --> 00:06:15,664 Speaker 3: It's actually my favorite thing, like just seeing and most 160 00:06:15,704 --> 00:06:18,144 Speaker 3: of it is women and girls, and I love them 161 00:06:18,184 --> 00:06:20,664 Speaker 3: just having their moment and being silly, Like I think 162 00:06:20,664 --> 00:06:22,824 Speaker 3: that's just like the epitome of not dressing for the male. 163 00:06:22,664 --> 00:06:23,944 Speaker 1: Gate exactly old. 164 00:06:25,024 --> 00:06:29,304 Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, it's probably so not what people envisioned. 165 00:06:29,304 --> 00:06:31,424 Speaker 4: He's like, I'm gonna have all these hot women fans 166 00:06:31,464 --> 00:06:31,944 Speaker 4: and they're going to. 167 00:06:31,944 --> 00:06:32,704 Speaker 1: Come in these really like. 168 00:06:32,664 --> 00:06:33,464 Speaker 4: Hot little outfits. 169 00:06:33,464 --> 00:06:34,584 Speaker 1: In my concept, no, they're going to come. 170 00:06:34,784 --> 00:06:35,984 Speaker 2: They're gonna come as. 171 00:06:35,864 --> 00:06:38,584 Speaker 1: You in the shirts. It must be really comfortable because 172 00:06:38,584 --> 00:06:41,424 Speaker 1: everyone's wearing flats and those like men's shirts looks how 173 00:06:41,464 --> 00:06:43,704 Speaker 1: comfortable and not how to do your hair, how comfortable 174 00:06:43,744 --> 00:06:45,424 Speaker 1: to go to a concert that way. Pit Bull doesn't 175 00:06:45,464 --> 00:06:47,744 Speaker 1: know it, but he started like a feminist revolution. 176 00:06:47,464 --> 00:06:49,904 Speaker 3: And it's around the world. It's been in UK, in 177 00:06:49,944 --> 00:06:52,744 Speaker 3: Europe all of his shows. I've never seen a movement. 178 00:06:52,544 --> 00:06:54,424 Speaker 4: Like this, and they were doing the conger lines in 179 00:06:54,464 --> 00:06:55,784 Speaker 4: the most people. 180 00:06:55,944 --> 00:06:58,784 Speaker 2: I all the content, like seeing everyone dancing. It's so silly. 181 00:06:58,904 --> 00:07:01,584 Speaker 3: I also am thinking, yeah, this is really funding the 182 00:07:01,624 --> 00:07:04,024 Speaker 3: costume industry. How many bold caps have been bought. 183 00:07:03,864 --> 00:07:05,264 Speaker 2: For this around the world. 184 00:07:05,664 --> 00:07:08,664 Speaker 1: Such a technic about early. So I guess, yeah, great 185 00:07:08,704 --> 00:07:10,944 Speaker 1: to hear that your Pitbull experience worked the way you 186 00:07:10,944 --> 00:07:13,224 Speaker 1: want it. I'd say, like, hope, Mariah Carey's okay, but 187 00:07:13,264 --> 00:07:14,984 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm sure she's doing fine, and she's 188 00:07:14,984 --> 00:07:17,504 Speaker 1: said before sometimes she just doesn't feel like performing. 189 00:07:17,224 --> 00:07:18,824 Speaker 5: And he shouted her out as one of his big 190 00:07:18,864 --> 00:07:20,224 Speaker 5: He was like, you know, it's so great to be 191 00:07:20,344 --> 00:07:20,984 Speaker 5: up here with like. 192 00:07:20,984 --> 00:07:22,064 Speaker 4: Little John Mariah Carey. 193 00:07:22,264 --> 00:07:23,784 Speaker 5: I want to I want to know if they're all 194 00:07:23,784 --> 00:07:25,504 Speaker 5: hanging out after, like do they go for a little night. 195 00:07:26,104 --> 00:07:28,944 Speaker 3: I feel like she's out, she's out, She's on that plane, which. 196 00:07:28,784 --> 00:07:31,024 Speaker 1: Is so fair that woman's been working crazy for like 197 00:07:31,184 --> 00:07:34,584 Speaker 1: decades now, so I feel like the bat hit ball. Okay, 198 00:07:35,024 --> 00:07:38,544 Speaker 1: she's doing it, and she's doing it in hills, true, 199 00:07:38,624 --> 00:07:40,944 Speaker 1: and so I just thought that's an extra factor. But anyway, 200 00:07:40,944 --> 00:07:45,544 Speaker 1: I'm glad your pitbull dreams worked out. They definitely did. Okay. 201 00:07:45,624 --> 00:07:47,944 Speaker 1: So over the weekend we had a fun red carpet 202 00:07:47,944 --> 00:07:50,544 Speaker 1: pop up. And this event is actually in its fifth year. 203 00:07:50,664 --> 00:07:54,664 Speaker 1: It's the Academy Museum of Motion Pictures, big annual fundraiser, 204 00:07:54,984 --> 00:07:56,784 Speaker 1: and it's really become a big thing in probably like 205 00:07:56,824 --> 00:07:58,624 Speaker 1: the last three years. And what I love about this 206 00:07:58,664 --> 00:08:01,424 Speaker 1: event is every time it pops up, it surprises everyone. 207 00:08:01,584 --> 00:08:04,704 Speaker 1: Everyone's like, why is every like single famous person I know, 208 00:08:05,144 --> 00:08:07,184 Speaker 1: all of a sudden on this red carpet that we 209 00:08:07,224 --> 00:08:09,624 Speaker 1: had no idea was coming looking like they're about to 210 00:08:09,624 --> 00:08:11,264 Speaker 1: head to the Oscar all the met Gala. 211 00:08:11,304 --> 00:08:11,664 Speaker 3: That is me. 212 00:08:11,984 --> 00:08:12,344 Speaker 2: That's me. 213 00:08:12,864 --> 00:08:15,824 Speaker 3: I hadn't noticed this in the past, but it was 214 00:08:15,864 --> 00:08:18,024 Speaker 3: all I was looking at over the weekend and seeing 215 00:08:18,024 --> 00:08:20,304 Speaker 3: these outfits come across, and I just thought, wait, do 216 00:08:20,464 --> 00:08:21,704 Speaker 3: we just have the met Gala? 217 00:08:21,744 --> 00:08:22,384 Speaker 2: Like, how are we here? 218 00:08:22,744 --> 00:08:24,704 Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, I guess like it's only five years. That's 219 00:08:24,904 --> 00:08:27,304 Speaker 1: very very young for an event like this, And I 220 00:08:27,344 --> 00:08:29,264 Speaker 1: do think it's only the last couple of years that 221 00:08:29,384 --> 00:08:31,544 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, everyone's like all the really big 222 00:08:31,584 --> 00:08:34,304 Speaker 1: celebs have jumped on board. I guess because it's the Academy. 223 00:08:34,304 --> 00:08:36,384 Speaker 1: It's like very prestigious, so they've got the guest list 224 00:08:36,424 --> 00:08:38,464 Speaker 1: so they can roll in. But it also just means 225 00:08:38,504 --> 00:08:41,024 Speaker 1: that LA actually has something now that well, I think 226 00:08:41,024 --> 00:08:43,384 Speaker 1: they're trying to make it rival go to Met Gala 227 00:08:43,424 --> 00:08:45,464 Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, and it's kind of a nice 228 00:08:45,464 --> 00:08:48,984 Speaker 1: cross because with the Oscars, everyone dresses a little bit 229 00:08:49,064 --> 00:08:51,864 Speaker 1: more formal and conservative because it's not really seen as 230 00:08:51,904 --> 00:08:54,104 Speaker 1: the place to go all out, and that the Met Gala, 231 00:08:54,144 --> 00:08:56,584 Speaker 1: I think everyone's gone like very over the top arts 232 00:08:56,624 --> 00:09:00,024 Speaker 1: he trying to get headlines. So the Academy Gala has 233 00:09:00,064 --> 00:09:02,224 Speaker 1: become like a really nice in between for the dresses. 234 00:09:02,304 --> 00:09:04,464 Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely see that come through that it's not 235 00:09:04,624 --> 00:09:07,744 Speaker 3: too out there, but it's still very elegant, and I 236 00:09:07,784 --> 00:09:10,344 Speaker 3: think it's still sometimes I was looking at the outfits 237 00:09:10,344 --> 00:09:11,784 Speaker 3: and I feel like that people are dressing for two 238 00:09:11,784 --> 00:09:12,464 Speaker 3: different events. 239 00:09:12,864 --> 00:09:14,784 Speaker 2: I want to know, like what the guidelines were. 240 00:09:14,904 --> 00:09:16,824 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's kind of some people going a bit 241 00:09:16,944 --> 00:09:18,784 Speaker 1: over the top and some people were a bit more conservative. 242 00:09:18,784 --> 00:09:20,224 Speaker 1: But did you have any faves, like this is the 243 00:09:20,264 --> 00:09:21,344 Speaker 1: safe space we can do best? 244 00:09:21,344 --> 00:09:24,064 Speaker 3: In me? Yes, I was wondering about, like, it's hard 245 00:09:24,064 --> 00:09:25,744 Speaker 3: when you look at these outfits, which are obviously they're 246 00:09:25,784 --> 00:09:28,224 Speaker 3: all beautiful, but yeah, you're very critical when you look 247 00:09:28,344 --> 00:09:28,824 Speaker 3: over them. 248 00:09:28,984 --> 00:09:30,904 Speaker 1: That's kind of fun thing is just like to look 249 00:09:30,904 --> 00:09:33,104 Speaker 1: at them and kind of like give your maybe a 250 00:09:33,144 --> 00:09:34,544 Speaker 1: bit more of a fashion person than me, but I 251 00:09:34,544 --> 00:09:36,544 Speaker 1: don't really know anything about fashion, but I do like 252 00:09:36,584 --> 00:09:38,024 Speaker 1: to have an opinion on a bad dress when I 253 00:09:38,064 --> 00:09:38,344 Speaker 1: see it. 254 00:09:38,504 --> 00:09:40,704 Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, I think it's hard as well, because I 255 00:09:40,784 --> 00:09:43,704 Speaker 3: always feel a fondness for the person, Like, Yeah, one 256 00:09:43,704 --> 00:09:45,944 Speaker 3: of the standouts for me was Hillary Duff, just because 257 00:09:45,984 --> 00:09:48,904 Speaker 3: I love seeing her come back into the spotlight. I 258 00:09:48,904 --> 00:09:51,344 Speaker 3: feel like she's been in the media a lot recently, 259 00:09:51,504 --> 00:09:54,504 Speaker 3: and she had this beautiful purple and pink dress and 260 00:09:54,504 --> 00:09:55,864 Speaker 3: I feel like I had a lot of drama to 261 00:09:55,944 --> 00:09:57,864 Speaker 3: it was like flowing down to the floor and it 262 00:09:58,024 --> 00:10:00,504 Speaker 3: just felt very like Lizzie Maguire movie. 263 00:10:00,624 --> 00:10:02,464 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like that's something she would. 264 00:10:02,304 --> 00:10:04,344 Speaker 3: Have worn in that movie when she was like dressing 265 00:10:04,424 --> 00:10:06,824 Speaker 3: up as her like alter ego. Yeah, I need to 266 00:10:06,824 --> 00:10:09,504 Speaker 3: rewatch that movie now that movie really hold. Yeah. 267 00:10:09,584 --> 00:10:11,384 Speaker 1: I should say we put all of these photos on 268 00:10:11,424 --> 00:10:13,784 Speaker 1: our Instagram account. The Spill podcasts on Instagram, so as 269 00:10:13,784 --> 00:10:16,264 Speaker 1: we go through, if you're if our explanations, I don't 270 00:10:16,264 --> 00:10:17,824 Speaker 1: know if you should open Instagram so you can see 271 00:10:17,824 --> 00:10:19,904 Speaker 1: the photos were talking about. I loved Hillary Duff too, 272 00:10:19,944 --> 00:10:21,344 Speaker 1: and I love that she's having such a moment with 273 00:10:21,384 --> 00:10:23,784 Speaker 1: her music coming back. The only thing I didn't love 274 00:10:23,824 --> 00:10:26,344 Speaker 1: about that, and you know, like when you make beauty errors, 275 00:10:26,384 --> 00:10:28,664 Speaker 1: you recognize it more in other people, that she'd gone 276 00:10:28,664 --> 00:10:30,864 Speaker 1: a bit hard on the tan and because then she 277 00:10:30,904 --> 00:10:32,224 Speaker 1: had the purple purple. 278 00:10:32,464 --> 00:10:36,904 Speaker 2: Yes, yes it was, But then sometimes I didn't notice that. Well, 279 00:10:36,944 --> 00:10:38,704 Speaker 2: I think, did you have a recent tan experience? 280 00:10:38,904 --> 00:10:41,944 Speaker 1: Always my whole life is a bad tad experience. When 281 00:10:41,984 --> 00:10:43,584 Speaker 1: I see other people, I'm like, I get it, girl, 282 00:10:43,584 --> 00:10:45,784 Speaker 1: like you didn't. Sometimes I didn't realize that I've overtanned 283 00:10:45,824 --> 00:10:47,864 Speaker 1: until I watch the videos from this podcast back, and 284 00:10:47,944 --> 00:10:49,984 Speaker 1: like all of a sudden, an orange hand would just 285 00:10:50,024 --> 00:10:51,664 Speaker 1: pop up into view, and I was like, oh no, 286 00:10:51,704 --> 00:10:54,304 Speaker 1: why did I do that? I also just think sometimes 287 00:10:54,304 --> 00:10:56,304 Speaker 1: the lights at those events, because sometimes when they take 288 00:10:56,304 --> 00:10:59,064 Speaker 1: their photos at home, their dress and makeup looks completely different, 289 00:10:59,344 --> 00:11:02,464 Speaker 1: and then you get there. And a few famous women 290 00:11:02,504 --> 00:11:04,144 Speaker 1: have said over the years like and then I saw 291 00:11:04,184 --> 00:11:05,824 Speaker 1: the red carpet pictures and I was like, oh my god, 292 00:11:05,864 --> 00:11:08,024 Speaker 1: the lighting ruined it for me. Which is why they 293 00:11:08,024 --> 00:11:11,024 Speaker 1: all do those full photo shoots at home, because it 294 00:11:11,104 --> 00:11:13,104 Speaker 1: used to be her bread carpet shot was the shop. 295 00:11:13,184 --> 00:11:15,224 Speaker 1: But now heaps them post their photos that they do 296 00:11:15,304 --> 00:11:18,184 Speaker 1: professionally at home first so they can control the lighting, 297 00:11:18,224 --> 00:11:19,784 Speaker 1: so you can show the outfit their way they want 298 00:11:19,784 --> 00:11:22,144 Speaker 1: to show. It was Hilary, yeah, and like a bit 299 00:11:22,144 --> 00:11:25,904 Speaker 1: of a bad hands. Not yeah, so's terribly bad things, okay, 300 00:11:25,984 --> 00:11:28,944 Speaker 1: Now said I loved was Jenna or Tager in grace Ling. 301 00:11:29,224 --> 00:11:30,624 Speaker 1: She had the I don't know if you saw it, 302 00:11:30,624 --> 00:11:33,984 Speaker 1: was a beautiful satin skirt and the breastplate and she 303 00:11:34,104 --> 00:11:35,504 Speaker 1: was one of my favorite the Emmys. I don't know 304 00:11:35,544 --> 00:11:38,224 Speaker 1: if you saw her. She had that bejeweled top on 305 00:11:38,704 --> 00:11:40,984 Speaker 1: that looked like if she never officially said the owain thing, 306 00:11:41,024 --> 00:11:43,824 Speaker 1: it looks like the corset from the death becomes her right, 307 00:11:44,224 --> 00:11:46,144 Speaker 1: And it was just such a standout because it didn't 308 00:11:46,144 --> 00:11:47,904 Speaker 1: look like anything else that anyone else's well it. 309 00:11:48,064 --> 00:11:51,184 Speaker 3: Goes for something more unique, which I like. I do 310 00:11:51,464 --> 00:11:53,504 Speaker 3: love like the breastplate. I love how it looks like 311 00:11:53,704 --> 00:11:56,704 Speaker 3: molten metal onto her body. But I don't know if 312 00:11:56,744 --> 00:11:57,464 Speaker 3: I like the skirt. 313 00:11:57,984 --> 00:12:00,944 Speaker 1: Well, a few people were saying the skirt won the creases, 314 00:12:00,984 --> 00:12:02,224 Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what, maybe she didn't 315 00:12:02,224 --> 00:12:03,664 Speaker 1: want to stand up in there. Maybe the girl wants 316 00:12:03,664 --> 00:12:06,304 Speaker 1: to sit down. She works a lot, but it does 317 00:12:06,344 --> 00:12:08,464 Speaker 1: look like a skirt that like everyone's got like twenty 318 00:12:08,544 --> 00:12:10,624 Speaker 1: sattin skirts. I feel like it's closet the most. 319 00:12:10,624 --> 00:12:13,864 Speaker 2: It looks like a glass and skirt this like beautiful top. Yeah, 320 00:12:14,064 --> 00:12:15,704 Speaker 2: Like I just feel like she could have done so. 321 00:12:15,784 --> 00:12:18,264 Speaker 1: People were saying the Emmys too, because the bejewelled top 322 00:12:18,304 --> 00:12:19,624 Speaker 1: that she had on she just did with kind of 323 00:12:19,664 --> 00:12:21,544 Speaker 1: like a very basic skirt, which I guess you need it. 324 00:12:21,584 --> 00:12:23,304 Speaker 1: But then I think the model who wore it down 325 00:12:23,304 --> 00:12:27,064 Speaker 1: the runway had like a really slim cut pair of pants, 326 00:12:27,104 --> 00:12:29,704 Speaker 1: and everyone's like, sometimes you should just wear the runway look. 327 00:12:30,024 --> 00:12:31,744 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they've chosen it for a reason. 328 00:12:31,824 --> 00:12:33,704 Speaker 3: I feel like even if she had some kind of 329 00:12:33,744 --> 00:12:35,864 Speaker 3: bottom that matched the top, like that would have been 330 00:12:35,864 --> 00:12:38,544 Speaker 3: a real moment. Like I think she still looks stunning, 331 00:12:38,544 --> 00:12:40,664 Speaker 3: like she always looks great, and I love that it 332 00:12:40,704 --> 00:12:43,904 Speaker 3: is like a more unique style and has it's different 333 00:12:43,904 --> 00:12:45,824 Speaker 3: from everything else because I still want to see like 334 00:12:45,984 --> 00:12:49,104 Speaker 3: drama at the Awards. I think my favorites tend to 335 00:12:49,144 --> 00:12:51,304 Speaker 3: be the ones that don't just look like like a 336 00:12:51,424 --> 00:12:52,384 Speaker 3: nice elegant dress. 337 00:12:53,184 --> 00:12:55,584 Speaker 1: Friend, Sad, I'm like, you're a movie star with access 338 00:12:55,624 --> 00:12:57,544 Speaker 1: to all the best scowns in the world. I know 339 00:12:57,584 --> 00:12:59,144 Speaker 1: there's a lot of favorite shres with like who gets 340 00:12:59,144 --> 00:13:00,984 Speaker 1: a dress, and people have brand tails and stuff like that, 341 00:13:01,024 --> 00:13:03,144 Speaker 1: so you don't always get to pick your dress. But 342 00:13:03,184 --> 00:13:05,264 Speaker 1: I do think like it's your job as a famous 343 00:13:05,304 --> 00:13:07,024 Speaker 1: person to wear the most over the top dress so 344 00:13:07,104 --> 00:13:08,944 Speaker 1: that we have something to talk about exactly. But yeah, 345 00:13:08,984 --> 00:13:10,904 Speaker 1: I do feel bad for her that that's so crankled, 346 00:13:10,904 --> 00:13:12,464 Speaker 1: because again, I don't think it's meant to look like that. 347 00:13:12,664 --> 00:13:15,224 Speaker 1: But again, maybe she just didn't want to stand up in. 348 00:13:15,184 --> 00:13:21,744 Speaker 3: The I loved Addison Ray's look me too. Yes, I 349 00:13:21,824 --> 00:13:24,504 Speaker 3: just feel like it looked very like old Hollywood glamour. 350 00:13:24,984 --> 00:13:27,504 Speaker 3: It had this like beautiful, like wavy design and I 351 00:13:27,504 --> 00:13:30,344 Speaker 3: think she's just having her moment. We're seeing Addison Ray 352 00:13:30,584 --> 00:13:33,144 Speaker 3: so much. But I think she's really like leaning into that, 353 00:13:33,344 --> 00:13:36,104 Speaker 3: and I think she's just so camp So I just 354 00:13:36,184 --> 00:13:38,104 Speaker 3: love her for that, and I love seeing her like 355 00:13:38,184 --> 00:13:39,664 Speaker 3: look all glammed and doled up. 356 00:13:39,704 --> 00:13:41,424 Speaker 2: So she was a standout for me for sure. 357 00:13:41,464 --> 00:13:44,904 Speaker 1: Absolutely everything that Addison Ray fascinates me because she was, 358 00:13:44,984 --> 00:13:48,544 Speaker 1: you know, obviously the TikTok dancing girl, yes, and had 359 00:13:48,584 --> 00:13:50,904 Speaker 1: built a huge following, but apart from that, she didn't 360 00:13:50,904 --> 00:13:54,144 Speaker 1: really seem to have any kind of like star quality. 361 00:13:54,184 --> 00:13:56,424 Speaker 1: And I know she's talking about kind of transitioning like 362 00:13:56,584 --> 00:13:59,224 Speaker 1: when she first got famous, transitioning into acting and singing, 363 00:13:59,264 --> 00:14:01,384 Speaker 1: but I just actually never saw that for her. But 364 00:14:01,384 --> 00:14:04,584 Speaker 1: boy was I wrong, because and like her movie wasn't great. 365 00:14:04,624 --> 00:14:06,024 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw Hees All That. It 366 00:14:06,064 --> 00:14:08,184 Speaker 1: was the remake of She's All That that she was in. 367 00:14:08,304 --> 00:14:09,064 Speaker 2: I don't think i've seen it. 368 00:14:09,064 --> 00:14:10,224 Speaker 1: I think i've seen them where she had. 369 00:14:10,104 --> 00:14:13,424 Speaker 4: The oh yeah, she's She's had in a few like. 370 00:14:13,424 --> 00:14:15,864 Speaker 1: Horror movies, like she was in that Thanksgiving movie. She's 371 00:14:15,864 --> 00:14:17,304 Speaker 1: been in a few things, and she's in the new 372 00:14:17,384 --> 00:14:20,624 Speaker 1: Monster series on Netflix, so I think now she's getting better. Yeah, 373 00:14:20,624 --> 00:14:23,144 Speaker 1: But her evolution as a pop star, I am just 374 00:14:23,184 --> 00:14:25,984 Speaker 1: so in awe of because she's just done everything right, 375 00:14:26,064 --> 00:14:28,344 Speaker 1: Like I started out of the bat. She hired all 376 00:14:28,384 --> 00:14:31,344 Speaker 1: the right people, but everything about her look, her music, 377 00:14:31,824 --> 00:14:35,664 Speaker 1: her performances, everything is just so correct how you should 378 00:14:35,704 --> 00:14:36,224 Speaker 1: like become up. 379 00:14:36,304 --> 00:14:37,104 Speaker 2: She's nailing it. 380 00:14:37,224 --> 00:14:38,904 Speaker 3: There was a point where I didn't think of myself 381 00:14:38,944 --> 00:14:40,464 Speaker 3: as like an Addison Ray fan. And then I put 382 00:14:40,464 --> 00:14:42,504 Speaker 3: on her album a couple of weeks ago, and I 383 00:14:42,504 --> 00:14:43,864 Speaker 3: listened to all those songs. I'm like, wait, I love 384 00:14:43,864 --> 00:14:45,944 Speaker 3: all these songs, and I already know all these songs 385 00:14:45,944 --> 00:14:46,544 Speaker 3: and I like them. 386 00:14:46,584 --> 00:14:48,824 Speaker 2: I just hadn't listened to it as a whole album. 387 00:14:48,904 --> 00:14:49,064 Speaker 3: Yeah. 388 00:14:49,144 --> 00:14:51,984 Speaker 2: Yeah, So now I'm a stand for Addison me too, and. 389 00:14:51,944 --> 00:14:54,464 Speaker 1: Again an unexpected fandom. And like when I'm wrong, I'm wrong. 390 00:14:55,304 --> 00:14:57,064 Speaker 1: I didn't see this fame for her, but I'm the 391 00:14:57,064 --> 00:14:59,264 Speaker 1: first to say that I was wrong. And yes, on 392 00:14:59,384 --> 00:15:01,584 Speaker 1: this red carpet, she's wearing that glittery of Asaci. But 393 00:15:01,624 --> 00:15:04,784 Speaker 1: also it's everything about her look like shouldn't work like 394 00:15:04,824 --> 00:15:06,224 Speaker 1: when I was really looking at it, because her hair 395 00:15:06,264 --> 00:15:09,064 Speaker 1: is that like almost yellowy blonde that like everyone gets 396 00:15:09,104 --> 00:15:11,744 Speaker 1: told to avoid and no one likes color. Her makeup's 397 00:15:11,784 --> 00:15:14,224 Speaker 1: like kind of a bit old school and then the 398 00:15:14,304 --> 00:15:16,944 Speaker 1: dress itself could age her, but all of it together 399 00:15:17,064 --> 00:15:18,744 Speaker 1: just looks like so cool. 400 00:15:18,784 --> 00:15:20,224 Speaker 3: I feel like it's very on brown for her, like 401 00:15:20,264 --> 00:15:23,064 Speaker 3: exactly what you just said, Like things that shouldn't work 402 00:15:23,104 --> 00:15:24,864 Speaker 3: but do when she does them. 403 00:15:24,944 --> 00:15:27,384 Speaker 1: Yeah. Everything, yeah, everything about how she pulls it together, 404 00:15:27,664 --> 00:15:29,664 Speaker 1: like on paper, it shouldn't work. When you see her, 405 00:15:29,704 --> 00:15:31,664 Speaker 1: you're like, that's just like you're just the ultimate quin 406 00:15:31,744 --> 00:15:34,224 Speaker 1: girl obsessed. So loved her. The other dress that I 407 00:15:34,264 --> 00:15:36,064 Speaker 1: really love it. A lot of people were ragging on 408 00:15:36,104 --> 00:15:37,664 Speaker 1: this is the dress I saw at the top of 409 00:15:37,744 --> 00:15:40,344 Speaker 1: all the worst dress lists. Oh, and I must disagree. 410 00:15:40,384 --> 00:15:41,944 Speaker 1: It's Zoe Kravitz and Saint Laurent. 411 00:15:42,024 --> 00:15:43,904 Speaker 4: Did you say, oh, I am the same. 412 00:15:45,344 --> 00:15:47,624 Speaker 3: No. No, I loved it, and I saw people were 413 00:15:47,704 --> 00:15:50,424 Speaker 3: ragging on it and saying it wasn't nice. But I 414 00:15:50,464 --> 00:15:52,904 Speaker 3: love the shape. I love the back moment. There were 415 00:15:52,944 --> 00:15:55,824 Speaker 3: a few shots where like her back is exposed, but 416 00:15:55,904 --> 00:15:57,664 Speaker 3: it kind of gives like bridgeton to me. 417 00:15:58,104 --> 00:16:00,184 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just it's just also a silhouette i'd 418 00:16:00,184 --> 00:16:02,024 Speaker 1: never really never see on her, and that's what I love. 419 00:16:02,104 --> 00:16:05,104 Speaker 1: So it's like kind of all these like tans and browns, 420 00:16:05,264 --> 00:16:08,784 Speaker 1: very kind of earthy, neutral colors like a really sort 421 00:16:08,824 --> 00:16:13,544 Speaker 1: of roush satin like big and skirt, huge sleeves like yeah, 422 00:16:13,544 --> 00:16:14,824 Speaker 1: which makes it interesting. 423 00:16:15,064 --> 00:16:17,344 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what I want to see and at 424 00:16:17,384 --> 00:16:19,104 Speaker 3: an event of this scale, like I want to see 425 00:16:19,344 --> 00:16:21,864 Speaker 3: shapes and silhouettes that I wouldn't usually see anywhere else. 426 00:16:21,944 --> 00:16:23,704 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I think that was just such a departure 427 00:16:23,704 --> 00:16:26,424 Speaker 1: from how Zoe Kravitz usually dresses. Like she's usually got 428 00:16:26,464 --> 00:16:28,704 Speaker 1: the slinky back dress on, or she's got like a 429 00:16:28,744 --> 00:16:32,064 Speaker 1: sea through glittery dress, and like she looks gorgeous in those. 430 00:16:32,464 --> 00:16:34,664 Speaker 1: But I just love that she tried something different, and 431 00:16:34,824 --> 00:16:36,464 Speaker 1: the moment she tries something different, all of a sudden, 432 00:16:36,464 --> 00:16:38,544 Speaker 1: she's on every worst dress lift just like leave the 433 00:16:38,544 --> 00:16:40,144 Speaker 1: woman alone. I loved it, and it says to me, 434 00:16:42,304 --> 00:16:43,624 Speaker 1: of a night, who else did you have? 435 00:16:43,944 --> 00:16:46,384 Speaker 2: Rachel Zeglar, I really liked her look. 436 00:16:46,424 --> 00:16:48,704 Speaker 3: It's this pink gown, she's got the pink gloves, and 437 00:16:48,744 --> 00:16:51,784 Speaker 3: it was very Marilyn Munro Diamond's. 438 00:16:51,384 --> 00:16:52,184 Speaker 2: Oh Girl best friend. 439 00:16:52,224 --> 00:16:55,504 Speaker 3: I actually think comparatively it's the same look to me. 440 00:16:56,904 --> 00:16:59,184 Speaker 1: She's like a like in her heart, I feel like 441 00:16:59,224 --> 00:17:02,184 Speaker 1: she's just a theater kid, like Hollywood Broadway Kids, so 442 00:17:02,184 --> 00:17:03,464 Speaker 1: she probably was thinking. 443 00:17:03,824 --> 00:17:05,824 Speaker 2: Has to be a throwback to that. I thought that 444 00:17:05,944 --> 00:17:06,544 Speaker 2: was lovely. 445 00:17:06,664 --> 00:17:09,384 Speaker 3: I think again, it's the shape and the drama of 446 00:17:09,424 --> 00:17:12,344 Speaker 3: it and really showing up and not just being like 447 00:17:12,424 --> 00:17:14,544 Speaker 3: a straight playing dress. Like I saw Kendall Jenner's dress 448 00:17:14,584 --> 00:17:15,864 Speaker 3: and I just thought, I'm not wowed. 449 00:17:16,424 --> 00:17:19,304 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't wowed by either Kendle or Hailey bab 450 00:17:19,424 --> 00:17:22,424 Speaker 1: with the kind of corset look. I think they both 451 00:17:22,464 --> 00:17:24,984 Speaker 1: look beautiful because they are beautiful, and I think sometimes 452 00:17:25,024 --> 00:17:26,704 Speaker 1: like it takes also a while to sort of sit 453 00:17:26,744 --> 00:17:29,184 Speaker 1: with a look like I think Hailey's in particular, she 454 00:17:29,224 --> 00:17:31,584 Speaker 1: didn't go like the traditional just kind of like basic gown, 455 00:17:31,624 --> 00:17:33,424 Speaker 1: like it was a bit more. I don't. 456 00:17:33,504 --> 00:17:37,144 Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw the vision, but I didn't love the execution. 457 00:17:37,704 --> 00:17:39,584 Speaker 3: I just felt like it looked like an undergarment, but 458 00:17:39,624 --> 00:17:41,784 Speaker 3: not in a way that was like cool and fun. 459 00:17:41,904 --> 00:17:43,584 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just feel like I'd seeing other people. I 460 00:17:43,664 --> 00:17:45,344 Speaker 1: just maybe expected a little bit more from her. 461 00:17:45,464 --> 00:17:45,664 Speaker 3: Yeah. 462 00:17:45,744 --> 00:17:47,304 Speaker 1: One more shout out before we get onto the person 463 00:17:47,344 --> 00:17:49,744 Speaker 1: who stole the show is Viola Davis. And if you 464 00:17:49,784 --> 00:17:54,064 Speaker 1: saw her in the blue, like the just the blue 465 00:17:54,144 --> 00:17:56,344 Speaker 1: kind of feather across the top fitted blue ground, the 466 00:17:56,344 --> 00:17:58,624 Speaker 1: feathers at the bottom. You see they dressed around a lot, 467 00:17:58,624 --> 00:17:59,944 Speaker 1: but I think she's pulled it off. 468 00:18:00,304 --> 00:18:02,744 Speaker 2: The color. I just every time I see. 469 00:18:02,624 --> 00:18:04,464 Speaker 1: Viola Davis on a red carpet, I'm just like, you're 470 00:18:04,504 --> 00:18:07,224 Speaker 1: always the best dressed person, but she's not always on 471 00:18:07,264 --> 00:18:09,504 Speaker 1: the best dressed list. It's like she I don't know 472 00:18:09,544 --> 00:18:11,304 Speaker 1: if we just expect it from her that she always 473 00:18:11,304 --> 00:18:13,024 Speaker 1: looks amazing. I don't trust the list. 474 00:18:13,144 --> 00:18:14,304 Speaker 4: No, I don't know if I trust the lesson. 475 00:18:15,264 --> 00:18:17,864 Speaker 1: I'm just like, they're missing the main person. So the 476 00:18:17,904 --> 00:18:19,944 Speaker 1: main person of the night did turn out to be 477 00:18:20,064 --> 00:18:22,344 Speaker 1: one Kim Kardashian who stole the show. What did you 478 00:18:22,344 --> 00:18:23,064 Speaker 1: think of her look? 479 00:18:23,864 --> 00:18:25,584 Speaker 2: I thought, why really? 480 00:18:26,104 --> 00:18:29,184 Speaker 3: I mean I just think sometimes when I see like, 481 00:18:29,344 --> 00:18:31,784 Speaker 3: I can see why they're doing it, and like, obviously 482 00:18:31,824 --> 00:18:33,664 Speaker 3: you want a headline and that's the whole point of it. 483 00:18:34,104 --> 00:18:36,384 Speaker 2: But it did what it was intended to do. She 484 00:18:36,784 --> 00:18:38,264 Speaker 2: stole the show with that look. 485 00:18:38,384 --> 00:18:42,104 Speaker 3: It's what everybody is talking about and kind of expect 486 00:18:42,104 --> 00:18:43,264 Speaker 3: nothing less from her at this point. 487 00:18:43,424 --> 00:18:46,384 Speaker 1: Yeah, when I saw it, I was like, oh, good move, Kim, 488 00:18:46,424 --> 00:18:49,024 Speaker 1: Like I she like the thought behind it is crazy. 489 00:18:49,064 --> 00:18:50,864 Speaker 1: So if anyone hasn't seen it. We've put some photos 490 00:18:50,864 --> 00:18:53,704 Speaker 1: on her Instagram, but it's almost like a tan gown, 491 00:18:53,784 --> 00:18:56,824 Speaker 1: and then she's got the huge bejeweled necklay. Song. But 492 00:18:56,824 --> 00:18:59,024 Speaker 1: it was the fact that she had like a silk 493 00:18:59,064 --> 00:19:02,664 Speaker 1: scarf wrapped around her face completely and it's not sheer. 494 00:19:02,864 --> 00:19:04,544 Speaker 1: So she was because I think when she had her 495 00:19:04,544 --> 00:19:06,944 Speaker 1: face covered for the met Gala many years ago with 496 00:19:07,024 --> 00:19:09,464 Speaker 1: the black she said she could kind of see through 497 00:19:09,744 --> 00:19:13,824 Speaker 1: so many she could marry into the met Gala. Every 498 00:19:13,824 --> 00:19:15,624 Speaker 1: time I go to the Met, I can barely up 499 00:19:15,624 --> 00:19:17,144 Speaker 1: the stairs. I'm not in a gown and I'm not 500 00:19:17,184 --> 00:19:19,464 Speaker 1: wearing anything. It's just like, but they're big stairs. But 501 00:19:19,744 --> 00:19:21,744 Speaker 1: at this that wasn't a sheer. I don't know if 502 00:19:21,744 --> 00:19:23,424 Speaker 1: you saw the photos of her getting there, yeah, it 503 00:19:23,424 --> 00:19:25,544 Speaker 1: looks so she had to have someone lead her around. 504 00:19:25,544 --> 00:19:27,504 Speaker 1: She could not see a thing. And then when she 505 00:19:27,584 --> 00:19:29,464 Speaker 1: was getting her photo taken, it's so funny because she's 506 00:19:29,624 --> 00:19:31,384 Speaker 1: kind of turning her head like she's trying to pose, 507 00:19:31,464 --> 00:19:33,544 Speaker 1: but she turns to the wall and they're like trying 508 00:19:33,544 --> 00:19:35,584 Speaker 1: to spit her back around like no, Kim, She's like, sorry, 509 00:19:35,624 --> 00:19:37,504 Speaker 1: I can't see a thing. So she had her face 510 00:19:37,544 --> 00:19:38,664 Speaker 1: completely covered. 511 00:19:38,424 --> 00:19:40,584 Speaker 2: Now I'm coming around to it. Just based on that 512 00:19:40,704 --> 00:19:42,704 Speaker 2: story of her looking around lost. 513 00:19:42,664 --> 00:19:45,344 Speaker 1: Their head covering really made the outfit, I thought, And 514 00:19:45,424 --> 00:19:47,024 Speaker 1: I think that's why at the last because it was 515 00:19:47,064 --> 00:19:49,424 Speaker 1: the last minute thing, which I didn't When I saw 516 00:19:49,624 --> 00:19:51,144 Speaker 1: her coming down, I was like, Oh, she's had this 517 00:19:51,184 --> 00:19:53,784 Speaker 1: plan for a while, because she would have been thinking, 518 00:19:53,824 --> 00:19:56,144 Speaker 1: I can't just look beautiful because everyone looks beautiful and 519 00:19:56,184 --> 00:19:58,424 Speaker 1: I always looks good. Yeah, exactly, And then she can't 520 00:19:58,544 --> 00:20:00,504 Speaker 1: just keep like wearing a corset or something like that, 521 00:20:00,544 --> 00:20:03,344 Speaker 1: because again, everyone's wearing naked dresses now, so it's not 522 00:20:03,504 --> 00:20:05,784 Speaker 1: really you'd have to have like a full boob out 523 00:20:06,024 --> 00:20:09,504 Speaker 1: to actually get to actually get a sort of headline. 524 00:20:09,544 --> 00:20:11,144 Speaker 1: So I think that was her way to make sure 525 00:20:11,184 --> 00:20:13,184 Speaker 1: she got all the headlines, which she did. Her photo 526 00:20:13,344 --> 00:20:15,704 Speaker 1: was everywhere. But I thought it was interesting that she 527 00:20:15,744 --> 00:20:17,984 Speaker 1: was giving an interview at the event and she said 528 00:20:17,984 --> 00:20:21,624 Speaker 1: that she flew her longtime hair and makeup team in 529 00:20:22,024 --> 00:20:24,984 Speaker 1: and they fully did her makeup, so Mario, who does 530 00:20:25,024 --> 00:20:28,024 Speaker 1: his makeup for years, did a full face, which would 531 00:20:28,024 --> 00:20:29,744 Speaker 1: have taken like I think they said last time, it 532 00:20:29,744 --> 00:20:31,744 Speaker 1: takes like five hours or something like that, and she 533 00:20:31,784 --> 00:20:33,424 Speaker 1: had her hair done and then she's like, I think 534 00:20:33,424 --> 00:20:35,304 Speaker 1: they're probably mad at me because after all that, at 535 00:20:35,344 --> 00:20:37,784 Speaker 1: the last minute I decided to put the head covering 536 00:20:37,784 --> 00:20:38,984 Speaker 1: on and just cover it all up. 537 00:20:39,384 --> 00:20:41,224 Speaker 3: I am surprised as well that it was the last 538 00:20:41,224 --> 00:20:43,904 Speaker 3: minute choice, because I don't think the outfit would have 539 00:20:43,984 --> 00:20:47,864 Speaker 3: like had the same impact without it, Like it's still beautiful. 540 00:20:47,904 --> 00:20:48,864 Speaker 2: I think she had. 541 00:20:48,664 --> 00:20:50,864 Speaker 3: Some gloves or like something on her arms, and it 542 00:20:50,984 --> 00:20:53,504 Speaker 3: all like marries up to like the train of the dress, 543 00:20:53,504 --> 00:20:55,384 Speaker 3: which I thought was really interesting. 544 00:20:55,264 --> 00:20:57,984 Speaker 2: But yeah, it wouldn't be the same without the head covering. 545 00:20:58,224 --> 00:21:00,144 Speaker 3: I think she also made a comment that she'll probably 546 00:21:00,184 --> 00:21:01,984 Speaker 3: take it off later, which is very relatable. 547 00:21:01,984 --> 00:21:04,504 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure she said with the met Gala when 548 00:21:04,544 --> 00:21:06,504 Speaker 1: she had her full face covered, she kept that on 549 00:21:06,544 --> 00:21:08,704 Speaker 1: all night because it was the look, so she got, 550 00:21:08,784 --> 00:21:10,904 Speaker 1: you know anything, which I do, which I believe it's 551 00:21:10,904 --> 00:21:13,864 Speaker 1: probably true. But I wonder if she was like taking photos, 552 00:21:13,904 --> 00:21:15,744 Speaker 1: because I think it was like a last minute thing 553 00:21:16,104 --> 00:21:18,704 Speaker 1: taking photos and the impact just wasn't there. I was 554 00:21:18,704 --> 00:21:20,824 Speaker 1: looking at the runway shots when that look went down 555 00:21:20,824 --> 00:21:23,584 Speaker 1: the runway for Majella, and the model had the face 556 00:21:23,624 --> 00:21:25,784 Speaker 1: covering on, So I wonder if that's like they had 557 00:21:25,784 --> 00:21:27,744 Speaker 1: picked the look and then just thought we have to 558 00:21:27,784 --> 00:21:30,064 Speaker 1: have it. But the model going down the runway in 559 00:21:30,104 --> 00:21:32,824 Speaker 1: the original dress also had like completely share at the 560 00:21:32,824 --> 00:21:34,984 Speaker 1: top so you could see her full boobs and nipples. 561 00:21:35,304 --> 00:21:36,704 Speaker 1: And I was like, so there's all these things that, 562 00:21:36,744 --> 00:21:38,344 Speaker 1: like the dresses meant to be worn like this, And 563 00:21:38,344 --> 00:21:39,864 Speaker 1: I wonder if when they toned it down, it just 564 00:21:39,904 --> 00:21:40,544 Speaker 1: didn't look as it. 565 00:21:40,424 --> 00:21:42,024 Speaker 2: It didn't look the same because it wouldn't have had 566 00:21:42,024 --> 00:21:44,224 Speaker 2: that like wow moment. Yeah, she didn't want to. 567 00:21:44,664 --> 00:21:47,344 Speaker 1: She did a good job because the photos were everywhere. 568 00:21:47,384 --> 00:21:49,744 Speaker 1: And I think she's so famous and get so many headlines. 569 00:21:49,784 --> 00:21:52,264 Speaker 1: I think she's a bit past now just looking beautiful. 570 00:21:52,304 --> 00:21:53,984 Speaker 1: It's always like, what's the story going to be? 571 00:21:54,064 --> 00:21:55,664 Speaker 2: She probably must have a bit of fun as well, 572 00:21:56,104 --> 00:21:56,944 Speaker 2: do something different. 573 00:21:57,344 --> 00:21:58,704 Speaker 1: I mean that must be nice, Like you could just 574 00:21:58,744 --> 00:22:00,584 Speaker 1: have someone leading you down the red carpet and you 575 00:22:00,624 --> 00:22:02,104 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about what your face looks like. 576 00:22:02,504 --> 00:22:03,784 Speaker 1: That's it. That's like a hack. 577 00:22:03,904 --> 00:22:05,864 Speaker 3: Maybe next time I can't be able to do my makeup, 578 00:22:05,864 --> 00:22:06,784 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna shot. 579 00:22:06,744 --> 00:22:09,704 Speaker 1: We'll just wear, yeah, a sack of my starves over 580 00:22:09,744 --> 00:22:15,144 Speaker 1: our faces. That's actually sounds sorr reliated well. Speaking of 581 00:22:15,144 --> 00:22:17,424 Speaker 1: who was at the Academy gala, there were two other 582 00:22:17,784 --> 00:22:20,944 Speaker 1: ladies present, and that was Hailey Bieber and Selena Gomez. 583 00:22:21,024 --> 00:22:23,664 Speaker 1: They both attended the event, but it looked kind of 584 00:22:23,704 --> 00:22:26,104 Speaker 1: like from the videos that I saw and the red 585 00:22:26,144 --> 00:22:29,504 Speaker 1: carpet timing that they arrived very very separately. They weren't 586 00:22:29,504 --> 00:22:32,824 Speaker 1: photographed anywhere near each other, and that's because they had 587 00:22:32,864 --> 00:22:34,824 Speaker 1: a bit of an awkward situation on the weekend. 588 00:22:35,384 --> 00:22:37,624 Speaker 3: Yes, I feel like this is just the tea that 589 00:22:37,784 --> 00:22:40,584 Speaker 3: keeps on giving. But what's different this time is it's 590 00:22:40,584 --> 00:22:44,744 Speaker 3: not speculation, it's comments that have been publicly made on 591 00:22:44,784 --> 00:22:45,424 Speaker 3: both sides. 592 00:22:45,504 --> 00:22:48,064 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, so yeah, this was when I first saw this, 593 00:22:48,144 --> 00:22:50,424 Speaker 1: I thought, like I started seeing like people posting just 594 00:22:50,464 --> 00:22:52,304 Speaker 1: little clips about it or talking about it, and I thought, 595 00:22:52,304 --> 00:22:54,464 Speaker 1: surely not Sly this has been taken out of context. 596 00:22:54,584 --> 00:22:56,464 Speaker 1: So I went and read the full story, which is 597 00:22:56,544 --> 00:22:58,744 Speaker 1: a cover story that Hailey Biaber did with the Wall 598 00:22:58,784 --> 00:23:02,264 Speaker 1: Street Journal for their Innovators issue. And obviously that's off 599 00:23:02,304 --> 00:23:04,544 Speaker 1: the back of her founding Road Beauty, which has become 600 00:23:04,584 --> 00:23:07,744 Speaker 1: this huge success, and it's the Wall Street Journal. It 601 00:23:07,784 --> 00:23:09,864 Speaker 1: was mostly about her being a businesswoman and building her 602 00:23:09,944 --> 00:23:12,904 Speaker 1: company and how she innovates, So it could have been 603 00:23:12,944 --> 00:23:15,544 Speaker 1: like an amazing cup for her to have this very 604 00:23:15,544 --> 00:23:19,184 Speaker 1: prestigious cover and to be being profiled as a business owner. 605 00:23:19,664 --> 00:23:22,464 Speaker 1: And then the journalist who was doing the interview asked 606 00:23:22,464 --> 00:23:26,064 Speaker 1: what she thinks about Road Beauty being in Sephora next 607 00:23:26,144 --> 00:23:30,264 Speaker 1: to Selena Gomez's brand Rare Beauty, And a few people 608 00:23:30,264 --> 00:23:32,104 Speaker 1: have raped the journalists over the calls for this and 609 00:23:32,144 --> 00:23:34,744 Speaker 1: saying that like they were trying to instigate drama, and 610 00:23:34,784 --> 00:23:37,024 Speaker 1: the journalists said back to a few people that it 611 00:23:37,064 --> 00:23:40,184 Speaker 1: was a fair question because it was it's her brand 612 00:23:40,264 --> 00:23:43,024 Speaker 1: against these other brands by female founders, and she wanted 613 00:23:43,024 --> 00:23:45,824 Speaker 1: to know what she thought about it. And in the 614 00:23:45,944 --> 00:23:49,304 Speaker 1: article it says that Hailey Bieber's publicist said to her, like, 615 00:23:49,344 --> 00:23:51,064 Speaker 1: you don't have to answer that question, like we can 616 00:23:51,144 --> 00:23:53,544 Speaker 1: just move on. But Haley chose to answer in it. 617 00:23:53,784 --> 00:23:56,824 Speaker 1: And at first it kind of sounded like she was 618 00:23:56,864 --> 00:23:58,704 Speaker 1: saying the correct thing, and she was saying something that 619 00:23:58,704 --> 00:24:00,744 Speaker 1: would kind of just simmered all down, and she's like, 620 00:24:00,784 --> 00:24:03,064 Speaker 1: I believe there's space to everyone. If she had just 621 00:24:03,144 --> 00:24:05,224 Speaker 1: left it there, it would have been great. She would 622 00:24:05,224 --> 00:24:07,024 Speaker 1: have looked like the better person she would have looked 623 00:24:07,024 --> 00:24:09,904 Speaker 1: like this benevolent sort of businesswoman and look like she 624 00:24:09,944 --> 00:24:12,104 Speaker 1: was taking a high road because she chose to answer 625 00:24:12,144 --> 00:24:14,304 Speaker 1: the question even though she could have skipped it. And 626 00:24:14,424 --> 00:24:16,584 Speaker 1: also she was sort of saying, like, there's space for 627 00:24:16,584 --> 00:24:18,944 Speaker 1: female founders. But then she took it a step further 628 00:24:19,344 --> 00:24:21,984 Speaker 1: and she said, and I don't compare myself to people 629 00:24:22,024 --> 00:24:27,184 Speaker 1: that don't inspire me, which unnecessary. It just seemed like 630 00:24:27,224 --> 00:24:29,064 Speaker 1: a wild thing to say. And also I just don't 631 00:24:29,064 --> 00:24:31,264 Speaker 1: know how that would be taken out of context, and 632 00:24:31,264 --> 00:24:32,424 Speaker 1: you know how like sometimes she was like, oh, but 633 00:24:32,424 --> 00:24:33,824 Speaker 1: if you read the rest of the article, you can 634 00:24:33,824 --> 00:24:36,144 Speaker 1: see what she meant. But it was like she was saying, 635 00:24:36,264 --> 00:24:39,544 Speaker 1: all the brands around her brand road, she's not inspired 636 00:24:39,584 --> 00:24:41,864 Speaker 1: by them because she doesn't think that they're kind of 637 00:24:41,864 --> 00:24:44,944 Speaker 1: worth her time. And that was aimed specifically at Selena 638 00:24:44,944 --> 00:24:47,984 Speaker 1: Gomez's rare beauty Bland, because that's one the journalist was referencing. 639 00:24:48,064 --> 00:24:52,064 Speaker 3: Of course, I think even if it didn't have Selena involved. 640 00:24:51,864 --> 00:24:54,584 Speaker 2: It's an awful thing to say you should. 641 00:24:54,304 --> 00:24:58,144 Speaker 3: Be bringing up other women and brands around you. So 642 00:24:58,184 --> 00:25:00,544 Speaker 3: I thought it was really interesting that that's the way 643 00:25:00,584 --> 00:25:04,184 Speaker 3: she went about it, and then obviously Selena has seen this, 644 00:25:04,384 --> 00:25:06,984 Speaker 3: and then she has then taken to Instagram. In a 645 00:25:07,024 --> 00:25:11,384 Speaker 3: now deleted Instagram story, she said, leave the girl alone. 646 00:25:11,424 --> 00:25:14,384 Speaker 3: She can say whatever she wants. Doesn't affect my life whatsoever. 647 00:25:14,504 --> 00:25:16,824 Speaker 3: It's just about relevance, not intelligence. 648 00:25:17,024 --> 00:25:18,784 Speaker 2: Be kind. All brands inspire me. 649 00:25:19,064 --> 00:25:21,104 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was so interesting and she did delete it 650 00:25:21,184 --> 00:25:22,824 Speaker 1: quite quickly. I think it's only up for an hour 651 00:25:22,904 --> 00:25:24,344 Speaker 1: or sober thing is it only needs to be up 652 00:25:24,344 --> 00:25:25,344 Speaker 1: for one Yeah, it doesn't. 653 00:25:25,144 --> 00:25:27,424 Speaker 2: Absolve you from the fact that you've already posted. 654 00:25:27,704 --> 00:25:29,304 Speaker 1: It only needs to be up for one second for 655 00:25:29,344 --> 00:25:31,504 Speaker 1: everyone to screenshot it and share it. Yeah, this whole 656 00:25:31,504 --> 00:25:34,104 Speaker 1: thing is wild, mostly because, like a lot of the time, 657 00:25:34,144 --> 00:25:36,344 Speaker 1: when these two women get pitted against each other, which 658 00:25:36,344 --> 00:25:39,544 Speaker 1: I have been for years, because obviously Selena Gomez and 659 00:25:39,624 --> 00:25:41,584 Speaker 1: Justin Bieble were together for many years. There was a 660 00:25:41,704 --> 00:25:43,504 Speaker 1: huge fandom of people that love them together. 661 00:25:43,864 --> 00:25:45,544 Speaker 2: That was me, Oh, really, you. 662 00:25:45,544 --> 00:25:47,464 Speaker 1: Were a Selena Justin fan. How do you feel about 663 00:25:47,504 --> 00:25:49,184 Speaker 1: it now? You're still rooting for those crazy kids. 664 00:25:49,664 --> 00:25:50,304 Speaker 2: I've moved on. 665 00:25:50,424 --> 00:25:53,944 Speaker 1: Oh, okay, I think I've moved on. Yes, that's what 666 00:25:54,064 --> 00:25:56,424 Speaker 1: I've always kind of defended Selena and Haley in this 667 00:25:56,504 --> 00:25:58,984 Speaker 1: because I do think that it's just this story that 668 00:25:59,104 --> 00:26:02,144 Speaker 1: kept getting brought up and kept always sort of this 669 00:26:02,304 --> 00:26:04,544 Speaker 1: like narrative, felt like it was being put on them 670 00:26:04,584 --> 00:26:07,024 Speaker 1: that they were feuding. I'm sure stuff did happen behind 671 00:26:07,024 --> 00:26:09,504 Speaker 1: the scenes. There's that story that's never been proven, but 672 00:26:09,584 --> 00:26:12,104 Speaker 1: Selena's kind of alluded to it being true that she 673 00:26:12,184 --> 00:26:14,984 Speaker 1: and Justin were kind of getting back together just before 674 00:26:15,024 --> 00:26:17,664 Speaker 1: New Year's Eve, and then Kendall and Kylie, Jenna and 675 00:26:17,704 --> 00:26:19,744 Speaker 1: I think Gigi had did invited her on a trip, 676 00:26:19,784 --> 00:26:20,624 Speaker 1: so she went with them. 677 00:26:21,784 --> 00:26:25,864 Speaker 2: Circle this crazy if a story. 678 00:26:26,024 --> 00:26:27,904 Speaker 1: I just want to ask this is true. I won't judge, 679 00:26:27,904 --> 00:26:30,144 Speaker 1: I just want to know. And then apparently because they 680 00:26:30,184 --> 00:26:31,944 Speaker 1: were all out of town, Haley kind of made a 681 00:26:31,984 --> 00:26:33,824 Speaker 1: move on Justin and that's when they post their first 682 00:26:33,864 --> 00:26:37,384 Speaker 1: pick together and Selena felt really betrayed. Whether that's true 683 00:26:37,464 --> 00:26:39,224 Speaker 1: or not, I don't know. Is a story, Oh you 684 00:26:39,224 --> 00:26:39,704 Speaker 1: think it is? 685 00:26:39,784 --> 00:26:40,504 Speaker 2: I think it is. 686 00:26:40,744 --> 00:26:43,224 Speaker 3: I feel like that just sounds like something that would happen, 687 00:26:43,264 --> 00:26:45,224 Speaker 3: Like we all have a story like that. Yeah, yeah, 688 00:26:45,384 --> 00:26:46,544 Speaker 3: I feel like they're not above it. 689 00:26:46,904 --> 00:26:48,944 Speaker 1: Yeah. I just think Also, yeah, life in year twenties, 690 00:26:48,984 --> 00:26:51,584 Speaker 1: especially when you're ectually famous, would be crazy. But I've 691 00:26:51,584 --> 00:26:53,464 Speaker 1: always felt this narrative is a little bit pushed on 692 00:26:53,504 --> 00:26:56,184 Speaker 1: them because Justin Haley have been married for so many 693 00:26:56,264 --> 00:26:58,584 Speaker 1: years now, they've got a child. Selena is now like 694 00:26:58,624 --> 00:27:02,984 Speaker 1: happily married. She didn't talk about Justin in interviews for decades, 695 00:27:02,984 --> 00:27:05,104 Speaker 1: even though she would be asked about it, And I 696 00:27:05,224 --> 00:27:06,944 Speaker 1: was just kind of a little bit pushed on them. 697 00:27:07,544 --> 00:27:10,304 Speaker 1: And then this feels like they're almost leaning into it. 698 00:27:10,344 --> 00:27:12,024 Speaker 1: Obviously they have over the years a little bit. There 699 00:27:12,064 --> 00:27:16,504 Speaker 1: was that time when Kylie Jenner and Hailey Bieber looked 700 00:27:16,504 --> 00:27:18,864 Speaker 1: like they were making a mockery of the eyebrows. 701 00:27:19,184 --> 00:27:21,584 Speaker 2: Yeah, even when you say it out loud, yes, like 702 00:27:21,864 --> 00:27:22,424 Speaker 2: everything about it. 703 00:27:22,464 --> 00:27:24,944 Speaker 1: No, I hate these informations even in my brain, like 704 00:27:25,024 --> 00:27:26,904 Speaker 1: imagine the stuff I could he or I didn't know this. 705 00:27:27,184 --> 00:27:28,304 Speaker 2: I think about these things that night. 706 00:27:28,424 --> 00:27:30,704 Speaker 1: But I just think Selena's really online in a way, 707 00:27:30,744 --> 00:27:32,864 Speaker 1: like she's so aware of what everyone's saying about her. 708 00:27:33,184 --> 00:27:36,104 Speaker 1: She commented on videos around that saying like be kind 709 00:27:36,144 --> 00:27:38,904 Speaker 1: to everyone. There was that year where that video of 710 00:27:38,984 --> 00:27:42,784 Speaker 1: Haley seemingly dissing Taylor Swift, but it was so it 711 00:27:42,824 --> 00:27:44,504 Speaker 1: was so many years ago, like she'd been asked when 712 00:27:44,544 --> 00:27:45,944 Speaker 1: she was like a kid what she thought of Taylor 713 00:27:45,984 --> 00:27:49,264 Speaker 1: Swift and she minds mind kind of like vomiting, And 714 00:27:49,304 --> 00:27:53,104 Speaker 1: then that just all of a sudden started recirculating. But 715 00:27:53,144 --> 00:27:54,864 Speaker 1: it was over ten years ago and we hadn't seen 716 00:27:54,864 --> 00:27:56,304 Speaker 1: the full clips. I was always like, oh, you don't 717 00:27:56,344 --> 00:27:58,704 Speaker 1: not really know what she was saying. Then Selena Gome's 718 00:27:58,744 --> 00:28:00,544 Speaker 1: comment on that and was like, that's my best friend. 719 00:28:00,584 --> 00:28:02,624 Speaker 1: She's the best to ever do it. So she is 720 00:28:02,664 --> 00:28:04,624 Speaker 1: in the weeds of what she chooses to comment on. 721 00:28:04,904 --> 00:28:07,344 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it is. It's sad in a way 722 00:28:07,344 --> 00:28:07,784 Speaker 2: that they. 723 00:28:07,624 --> 00:28:09,904 Speaker 3: Continue to be pit against each other, like you were 724 00:28:09,904 --> 00:28:12,144 Speaker 3: saying before, for this was such a great opportunity for 725 00:28:12,184 --> 00:28:14,544 Speaker 3: Haley to be in Wall Street Journal and have this 726 00:28:14,584 --> 00:28:17,944 Speaker 3: like profile piece, but the headlines from it is just 727 00:28:18,024 --> 00:28:21,704 Speaker 3: bringing her back to talk about her husband's ex, like 728 00:28:21,744 --> 00:28:24,624 Speaker 3: I can only imagine, to keep dredging that back up 729 00:28:24,664 --> 00:28:27,224 Speaker 3: like this old chestnut again and again and again. 730 00:28:27,664 --> 00:28:29,424 Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is the first time I thought that 731 00:28:29,504 --> 00:28:31,704 Speaker 1: like they have both really instigated it, which I think 732 00:28:31,784 --> 00:28:34,184 Speaker 1: is interesting because again, apart from these little moments in 733 00:28:34,224 --> 00:28:36,704 Speaker 1: time where they have commented on each other, or when 734 00:28:36,744 --> 00:28:39,624 Speaker 1: Hailey Bieber went on the call, of Daddy podcast, which 735 00:28:39,664 --> 00:28:43,024 Speaker 1: was kind of preempting Selena's documentary coming out and saying 736 00:28:43,064 --> 00:28:45,824 Speaker 1: like she doesn't owe me anything. Even that was kind 737 00:28:45,864 --> 00:28:47,744 Speaker 1: of like she was talking about it, but she didn't 738 00:28:47,744 --> 00:28:49,224 Speaker 1: really get in the weeds of it. And they posted 739 00:28:49,224 --> 00:28:51,224 Speaker 1: photos together when they went to that red carpet event, 740 00:28:51,264 --> 00:28:52,744 Speaker 1: so it felt like they were trying to sort of 741 00:28:53,224 --> 00:28:55,304 Speaker 1: calm it all down. But this just feels like they've 742 00:28:55,424 --> 00:28:57,544 Speaker 1: chosen to bring it back into the public eye. 743 00:28:57,384 --> 00:29:00,104 Speaker 3: And the way they show up is so distinctly different 744 00:29:00,144 --> 00:29:00,704 Speaker 3: from each other. 745 00:29:00,824 --> 00:29:02,384 Speaker 2: Like I feel like Haley. 746 00:29:02,064 --> 00:29:06,224 Speaker 3: Comes across on the defense yea and quite aggressive, and 747 00:29:06,264 --> 00:29:10,224 Speaker 3: then Selena always takes the more graceful path. I feel 748 00:29:10,224 --> 00:29:12,224 Speaker 3: like she always shows up as like she just seems 749 00:29:12,264 --> 00:29:12,864 Speaker 3: really kind. 750 00:29:13,144 --> 00:29:16,704 Speaker 2: Obviously that's the narrative she's pushing. So it's interesting how 751 00:29:16,744 --> 00:29:18,864 Speaker 2: they both kind of take these different sides. 752 00:29:18,864 --> 00:29:21,384 Speaker 3: But it does feel like they know what they're doing 753 00:29:21,384 --> 00:29:25,024 Speaker 3: at this point, so I'm interested whether they're just trying 754 00:29:25,024 --> 00:29:28,024 Speaker 3: to kind of fuel some like light chatter, but it 755 00:29:28,024 --> 00:29:29,424 Speaker 3: doesn't feel like they're having fun with it. 756 00:29:30,064 --> 00:29:32,184 Speaker 1: No, that's the thing, And it's just again such an 757 00:29:32,184 --> 00:29:35,184 Speaker 1: odd choice from two women who have lived in the 758 00:29:35,184 --> 00:29:37,704 Speaker 1: public eye for so long and are so aware of 759 00:29:37,784 --> 00:29:42,104 Speaker 1: like how their every word, thought, comment, photo, everything they 760 00:29:42,144 --> 00:29:44,984 Speaker 1: do is dissected in such a way. Kind of such 761 00:29:45,024 --> 00:29:47,864 Speaker 1: a strange thing for Haley to instigate it, and even 762 00:29:47,904 --> 00:29:51,104 Speaker 1: the way Selena did it, it was kind of like 763 00:29:51,704 --> 00:29:53,584 Speaker 1: I'm sure she kind of thought she was maybe like 764 00:29:53,624 --> 00:29:55,824 Speaker 1: potentially like throwing water on the fire by kind of 765 00:29:55,904 --> 00:29:58,344 Speaker 1: like don't be mean to her. Everything's fine, Like there 766 00:29:58,344 --> 00:29:59,904 Speaker 1: was a way that she could almost come out of 767 00:29:59,904 --> 00:30:02,784 Speaker 1: it looking like the bigger person, which is why I 768 00:30:02,784 --> 00:30:05,744 Speaker 1: think she initially posed the story. But also she doesn't 769 00:30:05,784 --> 00:30:08,424 Speaker 1: comment on every scandal that's out there and everything that's 770 00:30:08,424 --> 00:30:10,504 Speaker 1: said about her, so the fact that she chose to 771 00:30:10,544 --> 00:30:13,024 Speaker 1: comment on it then made it a bigger news story. 772 00:30:13,224 --> 00:30:14,584 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so interesting. 773 00:30:14,784 --> 00:30:18,104 Speaker 3: I feel like everyone has that person like maybe like 774 00:30:18,224 --> 00:30:20,544 Speaker 3: you had an ex and like their new girlfriend or 775 00:30:20,544 --> 00:30:22,944 Speaker 3: a situationship and you just continue to like check in 776 00:30:22,984 --> 00:30:25,864 Speaker 3: on them. And I feel like Hailey and Selena have 777 00:30:25,944 --> 00:30:27,784 Speaker 3: that with each other. They're just like keeping tabs, Like 778 00:30:27,824 --> 00:30:29,344 Speaker 3: I feel like I have like that one person that 779 00:30:29,384 --> 00:30:31,224 Speaker 3: I just I just want to see what she's doing, 780 00:30:31,264 --> 00:30:33,264 Speaker 3: how is she going? And I feel like they're like 781 00:30:33,664 --> 00:30:36,344 Speaker 3: connected and I wonder if they're like stalking each other 782 00:30:36,504 --> 00:30:37,424 Speaker 3: on socials at nights. 783 00:30:37,504 --> 00:30:39,424 Speaker 1: So I just it just makes me think that there's 784 00:30:39,464 --> 00:30:41,664 Speaker 1: so much going on behind the scenes that we don't know, 785 00:30:41,944 --> 00:30:43,704 Speaker 1: like so so many years in my head, like I 786 00:30:43,744 --> 00:30:45,184 Speaker 1: was like, oh, they don't even though they have like 787 00:30:45,224 --> 00:30:46,864 Speaker 1: a lot of similar friends and they live in the 788 00:30:46,864 --> 00:30:49,224 Speaker 1: same city. I always thought they were kind of like 789 00:30:49,304 --> 00:30:50,344 Speaker 1: quite separate and. 790 00:30:50,504 --> 00:30:52,944 Speaker 2: Like above it, and it's just the fans like trying. 791 00:30:52,744 --> 00:30:55,064 Speaker 1: To feel the drama and its kind of bringing it up. 792 00:30:55,064 --> 00:30:57,064 Speaker 1: But now I think there potentially is a lot more 793 00:30:57,064 --> 00:30:59,704 Speaker 1: happening behind the scenes, Like I wonder if something has 794 00:30:59,744 --> 00:31:02,864 Speaker 1: happened that like Hailey's heard something that Selena said or something. 795 00:31:02,944 --> 00:31:04,904 Speaker 2: It's just the docu series that I need, Yeah, so 796 00:31:05,024 --> 00:31:05,544 Speaker 2: I needs. 797 00:31:05,384 --> 00:31:07,024 Speaker 1: Want to find this out, like all this. Where are 798 00:31:06,944 --> 00:31:09,784 Speaker 1: all the investigative journalists doing with their time if they're 799 00:31:09,784 --> 00:31:12,584 Speaker 1: not sort of out this mystery, Because I just feel 800 00:31:12,584 --> 00:31:15,584 Speaker 1: like something's happened and that maybe potentially it happened in 801 00:31:15,624 --> 00:31:19,464 Speaker 1: the lead up to her doing that interview, and you know, 802 00:31:19,504 --> 00:31:21,384 Speaker 1: sometimes you just can't keep your mouth shut, like something 803 00:31:21,464 --> 00:31:23,264 Speaker 1: had happened to trigger her and she was so upset 804 00:31:23,304 --> 00:31:25,024 Speaker 1: that she was like I'm just gonna say that she 805 00:31:25,104 --> 00:31:27,944 Speaker 1: uninspires me in the World Street Journal, which is something 806 00:31:27,984 --> 00:31:28,704 Speaker 1: you can't take back. 807 00:31:29,144 --> 00:31:29,384 Speaker 3: I know. 808 00:31:29,544 --> 00:31:32,144 Speaker 2: Either way, I feel like I'm here for it. 809 00:31:32,264 --> 00:31:34,904 Speaker 3: I'm here to just continue seeing the drama that it 810 00:31:34,904 --> 00:31:35,544 Speaker 3: continues to so. 811 00:31:35,864 --> 00:31:37,264 Speaker 1: And this is what I always say, like, sometimes you 812 00:31:37,344 --> 00:31:39,104 Speaker 1: just have to let women hate each other. It's just 813 00:31:39,104 --> 00:31:41,224 Speaker 1: a normal like not in a bad way, but like 814 00:31:41,264 --> 00:31:43,304 Speaker 1: sometimes that's just a normal human emotion. 815 00:31:43,744 --> 00:31:44,584 Speaker 2: And it's real. 816 00:31:44,824 --> 00:31:47,024 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just never want to hear from either 817 00:31:47,024 --> 00:31:49,184 Speaker 1: of these girls again, just to finish up Haley or Selena, 818 00:31:49,504 --> 00:31:52,624 Speaker 1: any kind of anger from them about people continuing to 819 00:31:52,624 --> 00:31:54,504 Speaker 1: bring this up or their fans won't let it go 820 00:31:54,584 --> 00:31:56,224 Speaker 1: because they're part of it now, the balls in their 821 00:31:56,224 --> 00:31:59,104 Speaker 1: court like they brought it Upgea, Well, thank you so 822 00:31:59,224 --> 00:32:01,104 Speaker 1: much for listening to the Spill today, and thank you 823 00:32:01,104 --> 00:32:02,784 Speaker 1: so much to Tina for joining us. I feel like 824 00:32:02,784 --> 00:32:05,864 Speaker 1: we've made a few new enemies today, potentially Mariah, definitely, 825 00:32:05,944 --> 00:32:06,744 Speaker 1: Haley and Selena. 826 00:32:06,784 --> 00:32:07,824 Speaker 2: They're on the betrayal list. 827 00:32:07,984 --> 00:32:10,744 Speaker 1: It's oh my gosh, yes, the betrayalist for sure. And 828 00:32:10,944 --> 00:32:13,344 Speaker 1: make sure that you are following us also on TikTok 829 00:32:13,344 --> 00:32:16,224 Speaker 1: and Instagram, especially Instagram today because that's where we've posted 830 00:32:16,264 --> 00:32:18,584 Speaker 1: all the dresses we are talking about today so you 831 00:32:18,584 --> 00:32:20,864 Speaker 1: can let us know your thoughts and opinions, and were 832 00:32:20,904 --> 00:32:22,944 Speaker 1: back here in your podcast feed at eight am tomorrow 833 00:32:23,064 --> 00:32:25,104 Speaker 1: with Morning Tea, and then again at three pm for 834 00:32:25,144 --> 00:32:28,144 Speaker 1: another episode of the Spill. The Spill is produced by Minisha. 835 00:32:28,184 --> 00:32:30,264 Speaker 1: It's Warren with sounds production by Scott Stronik. 836 00:32:30,424 --> 00:32:36,144 Speaker 2: Bye Bye l