WEBVTT - FREE SUBS TASTER: No Influencers allowed. Seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to a mother and mea podcast. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to start with the smallest thing before we go to

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<v Speaker 1>the more vibe shifty discussion. It was a small thing

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<v Speaker 1>that set off big waves and it happened in Nantucket.

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<v Speaker 2>So what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Stech is there is a shop called the Four Winds

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<v Speaker 1>Craft Guild. It is a family run antiques and craft

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<v Speaker 1>shop on Nantucket. It's been going since nineteen forty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's got a pretty good pedigree and the current

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<v Speaker 1>owner is John Sylvia. And he hung up a sign

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks ago that said no influences. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>when you hear that, you might think of someone with

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<v Speaker 1>a texture and a sharpie, angrily scrawling, but it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a beautiful wooden carved sign. It's very much in

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<v Speaker 1>keeping with the oldie worldy vibe of the shop. And

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<v Speaker 1>he put it up because he said that he's sick

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<v Speaker 1>of his store often being used as someone's background, like

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<v Speaker 1>a stage, and he said groups will come in to

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<v Speaker 1>clog the shop because it looks really lovely and they'll

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<v Speaker 1>just film themselves, but they won't buy anything, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>terrible for business, right, And it doesn't he's obviously not

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<v Speaker 1>seen any knock on effects. They don't tag his business.

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<v Speaker 1>It's doing him dirty. So enter Page Lorenz, who i'd

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<v Speaker 1>heard of a little bit peripherally. Do you know much.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't hear of her, but I understand her vibe

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<v Speaker 3>where she said, yeah, where she sits, because she also

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<v Speaker 3>owns a store.

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<v Speaker 1>She does. She's chances, she's twenty eight, she's got nearly

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<v Speaker 1>two million followers, and she's the founder of dairy Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>a nostalgic coastal lifestyle brand, with her own store down

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<v Speaker 1>the street.

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<v Speaker 3>And she loves influences.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very familiar with this vibe because I live near

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<v Speaker 2>a town has this kind of influencer wall.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Whereas there are businesses who are like, please come in.

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<v Speaker 2>I've designed my shop to look so you take pictures,

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<v Speaker 2>and shops that are like you are just a menace

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<v Speaker 2>getting in the way of the people who are buying things.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what the store owner, John Sylvia said. But

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<v Speaker 1>then Paige Lorenz made a video and said it's discriminatory,

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<v Speaker 1>and she says it's anti women. She says everyone has

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<v Speaker 1>a phone. Nantucket is crawling with bankers, lawyers and developers,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody hangs a sign banning them.

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<v Speaker 2>She has a point with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if she does, though, because no one's

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<v Speaker 1>really doing the banking and the lawyering in the store,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not really disruptive like if they were, like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>bringing in a little desk, setting up shop, doing some lawyering,

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<v Speaker 1>taking loud calls with their lawyer clients or their banking clients.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think you can make a comparison.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you can