Speaker 1: You're listening to a mother and mea podcast. I'm going
Speaker 1: to start with the smallest thing before we go to
Speaker 1: the more vibe shifty discussion. It was a small thing
Speaker 1: that set off big waves and it happened in Nantucket.
Speaker 2: So what happened.
Speaker 1: Stech is there is a shop called the Four Winds
Speaker 1: Craft Guild. It is a family run antiques and craft
Speaker 1: shop on Nantucket. It's been going since nineteen forty eight,
Speaker 1: so it's got a pretty good pedigree and the current
Speaker 1: owner is John Sylvia. And he hung up a sign
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago that said no influences. Now,
Speaker 1: when you hear that, you might think of someone with
Speaker 1: a texture and a sharpie, angrily scrawling, but it's not.
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful wooden carved sign. It's very much in
Speaker 1: keeping with the oldie worldy vibe of the shop. And
Speaker 1: he put it up because he said that he's sick
Speaker 1: of his store often being used as someone's background, like
Speaker 1: a stage, and he said groups will come in to
Speaker 1: clog the shop because it looks really lovely and they'll
Speaker 1: just film themselves, but they won't buy anything, and it's
Speaker 1: terrible for business, right, And it doesn't he's obviously not
Speaker 1: seen any knock on effects. They don't tag his business.
Speaker 1: It's doing him dirty. So enter Page Lorenz, who i'd
Speaker 1: heard of a little bit peripherally. Do you know much.
Speaker 3: I didn't hear of her, but I understand her vibe
Speaker 3: where she said, yeah, where she sits, because she also
Speaker 3: owns a store.
Speaker 1: She does. She's chances, she's twenty eight, she's got nearly
Speaker 1: two million followers, and she's the founder of dairy Boy,
Speaker 1: a nostalgic coastal lifestyle brand, with her own store down
Speaker 1: the street.
Speaker 3: And she loves influences.
Speaker 2: I'm very familiar with this vibe because I live near
Speaker 2: a town has this kind of influencer wall.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: Whereas there are businesses who are like, please come in.
Speaker 2: I've designed my shop to look so you take pictures,
Speaker 2: and shops that are like you are just a menace
Speaker 2: getting in the way of the people who are buying things.
Speaker 1: So that's what the store owner, John Sylvia said. But
Speaker 1: then Paige Lorenz made a video and said it's discriminatory,
Speaker 1: and she says it's anti women. She says everyone has
Speaker 1: a phone. Nantucket is crawling with bankers, lawyers and developers,
Speaker 1: nobody hangs a sign banning them.
Speaker 2: She has a point with that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if she does, though, because no one's
Speaker 1: really doing the banking and the lawyering in the store,
Speaker 1: it's not really disruptive like if they were, like maybe
Speaker 1: bringing in a little desk, setting up shop, doing some lawyering,
Speaker 1: taking loud calls with their lawyer clients or their banking clients.
Speaker 1: But I don't think you can make a comparison.
Speaker 2: I think you can