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Speaker 1: Makeup is My Therapy.

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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to you Beauty the daily podcast for

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Speaker 1: Hi am Lee Campbell. I'm Kelly McCarran. And what do

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Speaker 1: we do on Monday's.

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Speaker 2: Live Well our lovely U bids. You are listening to

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Speaker 2: another episode of Q and A.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't help, but wonder ask me anything? You ask

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Speaker 3: We as your questions and remember that there's a link

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Speaker 3: in our show notes. You can leave us a voicemail

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Speaker 3: if you want us to answer that. Lee, what are

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Speaker 3: we talking about today?

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Speaker 2: So coming up, we're teaching you how to lay a

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Speaker 2: sunscreen without losing that gorgeous glow from your skincare. But first,

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Speaker 2: a question about winter skin switches from Nicky Help.

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Speaker 3: It's cold af and my skin is not happy about it.

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Speaker 3: Do I need to use a thicker moisture In the past,

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Speaker 3: I feel like it hasn't really helped. And while you're there,

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Speaker 3: what about my hair and body. I need all of

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Speaker 3: the winter lizard's skin tips.

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, how long you got, Nikki. This could be

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Speaker 2: a thesis. So do I need to use a thicker

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Speaker 2: moisturizer In the past that hasn't really helped. Let's talk

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Speaker 2: about that first lead to a bit of a science lesson.

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Speaker 2: There are three types of moisturizer. Broadly, there's an ecclusive.

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Speaker 2: It creates a physical barrier on the skin to prevent

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Speaker 2: the moisture from coming out, which is called trans epidermal

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Speaker 2: water loss. So it's basically going to lock in your hydration.

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Speaker 2: When we talk about thick slugging creams, that's an inclusive.

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Speaker 2: A humactant draws water into the skin or your hair,

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Speaker 2: the deeper layers or from the air if it's humid enough,

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Speaker 2: which is why you get quite shitzy and glowy. So

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Speaker 2: think of that like your hyaluronic acids. Last one quickly

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Speaker 2: is Emollient's and they're kind of your soothing, hydrating kind

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Speaker 2: of biliar, Yeah, kind of in the middle, I guess

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Speaker 2: I would say, yeah, Emolient, But they're the ones you'll

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Speaker 2: probably see formulated or marketed for dry, itchy, that kind

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Speaker 2: of stuff. So there's three types of moisturizers. Now what

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Speaker 2: a lot of people do by not understanding that is

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Speaker 2: grab an ecclusive, a thick moisturizer and think I'm going

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Speaker 2: to use this for winter. I just whack it straight on.

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Speaker 2: It was nothing underneath, and it's making a beautiful barrier,

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Speaker 2: so no more moisture can get out.

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Speaker 1: But it's not.

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Speaker 3: First your skin looks so hidied and nourished, and you're.

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Speaker 2: Like, oh, but because you haven't put juiciness underneath it,

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Speaker 2: it's got nothing to lock in, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: So probably five or six months ago we answered a

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Speaker 2: question on skin flooding, and we'll link to that in

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Speaker 2: the show notes. Because skin flooding is essentially layering, layering,

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Speaker 2: layering several layers of hydration and then locking it in

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Speaker 2: with an occlusive. So it's hard for us to answer

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Speaker 2: this for you specifically, Nikki, because I don't know where

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Speaker 2: you live, because Tasmania is very different to Darwine in winter.

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Speaker 2: But you're telling us you're cold, you need to exfoliate

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Speaker 2: more in winter. Your skin needs it for radiance and

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Speaker 2: So for your face you could use a chemical exfoliance

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Speaker 2: body Ahabha serum. Before we get into a few recommendations

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Speaker 2: from me, your hair again also gets dryer, so think

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Speaker 2: to quickly recommend so this doesn't turn into a thesis Laochpise.

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Speaker 2: The sicker Blast range, particularly the soothing Barrier balm, which

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Speaker 2: The serum is also lovely. I love the serum. Similarly,

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Speaker 2: the Bioderma Sicker Bio cream, so Sicka is the common

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Speaker 2: under it and pop this on. It's good for irritation, redness, overheating,

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Speaker 2: same family is the Avine Sickle Fate Restorative protective cream.

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Speaker 2: So see how they've got all sicker in it. See ica,

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Speaker 2: that's the ingredient again, a multipurpose repair balm. So anything

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Speaker 2: Kelly the other week talked about using Nappy rash cream

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Speaker 2: on her sore nose. I haven't used the Wlida one,

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Speaker 2: We made her put it all over her face, take

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Speaker 2: I know we're like, here's a wacky idea, go and

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Speaker 2: take pics. It's a healing cream suits and protext. I

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Speaker 2: find it really great if I have had a cold,

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Speaker 2: like the Wilia one. It's thick and white, that's got

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Speaker 2: to another brand. In general, it has so many options

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Speaker 2: for your lips, you face, your body is good old

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Speaker 2: dermal therapy. The lip Barm is Australia's best selling lip

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Speaker 2: balm and it won the u BID Awards with Maya

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Speaker 2: the lip balm, they've got an overnight lip repair mask,

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Speaker 2: they have like very dry face cleanser, they've got pretty

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Speaker 2: much everything for skin concern. They're like it's skin Concern

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Speaker 3: My god, my feet in winter the only time they're

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Speaker 3: actually nice, are they, Yes, because there's cocooned. They're cocooned

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Well, winter's a good time to do like

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Speaker 2: No, So if you do have you know, dry bits,

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Speaker 2: from all of that is, yes, it's great to add

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Speaker 2: and make sure you're layering things under it, because there's

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Speaker 2: no point adding a barrier without products under It's like

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Speaker 2: with Vassoline is a barrier cream. So a lot of

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Speaker 2: people use vascaline on their lips and it doesn't make

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Speaker 2: them hydrated. No, No, it's greaty for going skiing, but

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Speaker 2: put lip balm under than your vassoline on.

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Speaker 1: Over the top.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Kelly, do you have any recommendations for our poor

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to give you any more product recommendations

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Speaker 3: always make as someone with dry, dehydrated skin. Now, if

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Speaker 1: Yes, don't forget that. Layering.

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Speaker 3: Just like with your wardrobe, layering your skin care can

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Speaker 3: I will use a essence. This is just if I'm

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Speaker 3: A normal hydrating serum, so something with hyler and a

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Speaker 3: Then I go in with moisturizer SBF and that's just

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Speaker 2: The wardrobe layering analogy is so perfect to illustrate it

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Speaker 2: like layer upon layer upon layer exactly.

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Speaker 3: that you're using masks and really leaving them in. Wrap

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Speaker 3: and smoother. And have a look at what you are using,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, shower, I'd be too stripping.

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Speaker 3: Whether it's for body or for face, yes, I'd say

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Speaker 4: Kristen asked, warning, girls, I bought the Ola hen and

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Speaker 4: Ricks and Banana Bright Sea moisturizer as discussed by Leave

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Speaker 2: Girls, Bye, I have always thought about this. You're so

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Speaker 2: have a couple of recommendations for sunscreen, particularly from Korean brands.

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Speaker 2: So Korean brands absolutely smashed and revolutionized clear sunscreens. Yes,

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Speaker 2: one clear filter sun Essence no white caste hydrating, moisturizing,

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Speaker 2: cool down, lightweight finished sunscreen. It's SBA fifty plus. You

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and avoid anything that says mattifying or yes, with

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Speaker 3: What a you makeup hacks?

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Speaker 1: Well, my host tack is perfect for our winter skin question.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. You probably get this as well.

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Speaker 3: To all your friends message you their skincare queries.

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Speaker 2: Mate. Yeah, if I could charge them five dollars, ah,

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Speaker 3: Of course, I send proper routines back everything. Anyway, my

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Speaker 3: by the way, do not use the oil there.

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Speaker 2: Putting water on top. It wouldn't get in.

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Speaker 3: It's absolutely not going to get in and it's not

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Speaker 3: an analogy that is finished with an oil. I spoke

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Speaker 3: I use on my chest, but if I don't use that,

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Speaker 3: I use a hydrating serum and then oil all over

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Speaker 1: Exactly juicy, juicy, juicy.

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Speaker 2: Like think of olives in oil. They are staying juicy.

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Speaker 3: If you put them a moisturizer, they would be Okay.

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Speaker 2: I can't do that. So I went, Haha, you know

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Speaker 2: I put it on my lines on my neck and

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Speaker 1: I'm so jealous. Oh my god, that's genius.

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Speaker 2: But you don't need this product any sort of mattifying,

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Speaker 2: if you want to, it's just not the vibe I want.

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Speaker 2: Is doesn't leave me as glowy.

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Speaker 3: That is absolutely genius. I've got really hectic necklace. Sometimes

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Speaker 3: Bewa even comment They're like, why are your neck climbs

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Speaker 2: I think they're normal.

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Speaker 1: I must feel like a little draft or an emu.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, this specific product is seventy dollars for thirty meals.

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Speaker 2: It's a great product, but there's so many like Revolution Beauty.

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Speaker 2: Just look for a like poor filling blurring primer. Bob's

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Speaker 2: your uncle. And on that note, I and my blurry

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Speaker 2: neck are leaving the studio. Don't feel you can send

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Speaker 2: note on Instagram. Our handle is at ubudy podcast, or

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Speaker 2: just shoot us a good old fashioned email you beauty.

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Speaker 2: It mamamea dot com dot au. And there's a nifty

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Speaker 2: way to do it too. Click off the show notes

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Speaker 2: and there's a link and you can leave a voicemail

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Speaker 2: there and it goes directly straight to us, straight to

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Speaker 2: the team.

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Speaker 1: So handy.

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Speaker 3: Well, me and my unblurred neck are also leaving, but

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Speaker 3: you can come back tomorrow for the formula. Eron is

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Speaker 3: sitting down with his skincare product formulator to find out

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Speaker 3: how we can tell if our products a good quality

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Speaker 1: Oh it sounds so good. Juicy and Len and I

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Speaker 1: will be back in your ears on Friday morning. Bye bye,