1 00:00:10,614 --> 00:00:15,254 Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma Mea podcast. Mumma Mea acknowledges 2 00:00:15,334 --> 00:00:18,134 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast 3 00:00:18,214 --> 00:00:18,934 Speaker 1: is recorded on. 4 00:00:21,094 --> 00:00:24,414 Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Taylor Strano. This is Mumma MEA's twice daily 5 00:00:24,494 --> 00:00:29,014 Speaker 2: news podcast, The Quickie. Taylor Swift has just announced her 6 00:00:29,054 --> 00:00:32,854 Speaker 2: twelfth studio album, The Life of a show Girl. But 7 00:00:33,254 --> 00:00:35,894 Speaker 2: how did we get here? She's one of an easter 8 00:00:35,974 --> 00:00:38,534 Speaker 2: egg so did you clock them all in the lead 9 00:00:38,614 --> 00:00:42,614 Speaker 2: up to this announcement? Plus the real reason Australia's divorce 10 00:00:42,694 --> 00:00:46,454 Speaker 2: rate has plummeted on the surface for your breakups. Sound 11 00:00:46,574 --> 00:00:50,574 Speaker 2: like good news, but is it the whole story? Before 12 00:00:50,614 --> 00:00:52,934 Speaker 2: we get there, Here's Claire Murphy with the latest from 13 00:00:52,934 --> 00:00:55,814 Speaker 2: the QUICKI newsroom for Wednesday, August thirteen. 14 00:00:56,254 --> 00:01:00,294 Speaker 1: Thanks Taylor. The foreign ministers of twenty four countries, including Australia, 15 00:01:00,414 --> 00:01:03,094 Speaker 1: have released a statement calling for unrestricted aid to be 16 00:01:03,094 --> 00:01:07,894 Speaker 1: allowed into Gaza, saying the humanitarian crisis has reached unimaginable levels. 17 00:01:08,334 --> 00:01:11,134 Speaker 1: The statement, signed by a Ralia's Penny Wong, along with 18 00:01:11,174 --> 00:01:15,054 Speaker 1: the UK, Canada, France, Japan and several other European allies, 19 00:01:15,334 --> 00:01:18,094 Speaker 1: along with the EU's Foreign policy chief and two other 20 00:01:18,174 --> 00:01:21,894 Speaker 1: members of the European Commission says famine is unfolding before 21 00:01:21,934 --> 00:01:24,974 Speaker 1: our rise. Urgent action is needed now to halt and 22 00:01:25,054 --> 00:01:29,214 Speaker 1: reverse starvation. Israel has denied responsibility for hunger spreading in 23 00:01:29,254 --> 00:01:33,174 Speaker 1: the Gaza Strip, accusing Harmas militants of stealing aid shipments, 24 00:01:33,214 --> 00:01:36,534 Speaker 1: which her Mas denies. However, in response to a rising 25 00:01:36,574 --> 00:01:40,294 Speaker 1: international uproar, Israel late last month announced steps to let 26 00:01:40,414 --> 00:01:43,894 Speaker 1: more aid into the enclave, including pausing fighting for part 27 00:01:43,974 --> 00:01:46,654 Speaker 1: of the day in some areas and announcing protected routes 28 00:01:46,694 --> 00:01:50,694 Speaker 1: for aid convoys. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netnyahu's plan to 29 00:01:50,734 --> 00:01:54,054 Speaker 1: expand military control over the Gaza Strip, which is expected 30 00:01:54,054 --> 00:01:59,494 Speaker 1: to launch in October, has increased condemnation over the widespread devastation, displacement, 31 00:01:59,614 --> 00:02:02,814 Speaker 1: and hunger afflicting the enclave's two point two million people. 32 00:02:03,134 --> 00:02:06,174 Speaker 1: It has also seen criticism from within Israel, with the 33 00:02:06,174 --> 00:02:09,014 Speaker 1: military chief of staff warning it could in danger surviving 34 00:02:09,054 --> 00:02:13,734 Speaker 1: hostages and prove a death trap for Israeli soldiers. Madonna 35 00:02:13,814 --> 00:02:16,734 Speaker 1: has urged the pope to travel to Gaza before it's 36 00:02:16,774 --> 00:02:19,814 Speaker 1: too late. The iconic singer posted her appeal to the 37 00:02:19,814 --> 00:02:23,414 Speaker 1: pontiff on social media on Monday, saying Most Holy Father, 38 00:02:23,614 --> 00:02:25,814 Speaker 1: please go to Gaza and bring your light to the 39 00:02:25,894 --> 00:02:28,974 Speaker 1: children before it's too late. As a mother, I cannot 40 00:02:28,974 --> 00:02:31,614 Speaker 1: bear to watch their suffering. She goes on to say, 41 00:02:31,734 --> 00:02:34,614 Speaker 1: the children of the world belong to everyone. You are 42 00:02:34,614 --> 00:02:36,974 Speaker 1: the only one of us who cannot be denied entry. 43 00:02:37,254 --> 00:02:39,814 Speaker 1: We need the humanitarian gates to be fully open to 44 00:02:39,894 --> 00:02:43,254 Speaker 1: save these innocent children. There is no more time. Please 45 00:02:43,254 --> 00:02:45,974 Speaker 1: say you will go, Love Madonna. She went on to 46 00:02:46,014 --> 00:02:48,334 Speaker 1: clarify that she was not taking signs in the war, 47 00:02:48,574 --> 00:02:52,094 Speaker 1: writing everyone is suffering, including the mothers of the hostages. 48 00:02:52,374 --> 00:02:54,974 Speaker 1: I pray they are released as well. I'm merely trying 49 00:02:55,014 --> 00:02:56,974 Speaker 1: to do what I can to keep these children from 50 00:02:57,054 --> 00:03:00,654 Speaker 1: dying of starvation. Tech giants Apple and Google have been 51 00:03:00,694 --> 00:03:03,894 Speaker 1: found to have engaged in anti competitive conduct, paving the 52 00:03:03,934 --> 00:03:06,134 Speaker 1: way for a payout that could be worth hundreds of 53 00:03:06,214 --> 00:03:09,534 Speaker 1: millions of dollars. Epic Games, the developer of popular online 54 00:03:09,574 --> 00:03:11,934 Speaker 1: line game Fortnite, sued the two tech giants in the 55 00:03:11,934 --> 00:03:16,214 Speaker 1: federal court, claiming they engaged in anti competitive and unconscionable 56 00:03:16,294 --> 00:03:20,454 Speaker 1: conduct against those developing apps distributed through iOS and Android 57 00:03:20,454 --> 00:03:23,534 Speaker 1: devices after they were booted from Apple's app Store and 58 00:03:23,574 --> 00:03:26,894 Speaker 1: Google's Play Store after they attempted to introduce their own 59 00:03:26,934 --> 00:03:31,054 Speaker 1: payment system into Fortnite in twenty twenty. Justice Jonathan Beach 60 00:03:31,094 --> 00:03:34,894 Speaker 1: on Tuesday found Apple and Google had breached Australia's competition laws, 61 00:03:35,214 --> 00:03:38,974 Speaker 1: upholding key elements of Epic's case but rejecting their argument 62 00:03:39,054 --> 00:03:42,494 Speaker 1: that Apple had engaged in unconsionable conduct. He also found 63 00:03:42,534 --> 00:03:44,774 Speaker 1: in favor of a class action lawsuit made up of 64 00:03:44,814 --> 00:03:48,894 Speaker 1: Australian developers and gamers who claim Apple and Google's practices 65 00:03:48,974 --> 00:03:52,934 Speaker 1: led to inflated prices. An increasing number of Britain's believed 66 00:03:52,974 --> 00:03:56,174 Speaker 1: Prince Andrew should be stripped of his titles. The Yugov 67 00:03:56,214 --> 00:03:59,014 Speaker 1: poll found sixty seven percent of the public would back 68 00:03:59,054 --> 00:04:01,894 Speaker 1: the removal of Andrew's York Dukedom as well as his 69 00:04:02,014 --> 00:04:05,454 Speaker 1: title as Prince. That's an increase from sixty two percent 70 00:04:05,534 --> 00:04:08,734 Speaker 1: three years ago. Another Yugov survey found that just five 71 00:04:08,774 --> 00:04:10,854 Speaker 1: percent have a po positive view of the King's brother, 72 00:04:11,174 --> 00:04:14,694 Speaker 1: with Andrew languishing at the bottom of the royal favorability table, 73 00:04:14,974 --> 00:04:17,774 Speaker 1: beneath the Duchess of Sussex, who has a twenty percent 74 00:04:17,814 --> 00:04:21,094 Speaker 1: positive rating, and the Duke of Sussex at twenty eight percent. 75 00:04:21,574 --> 00:04:24,934 Speaker 1: Legislation would be needed for Parliament to prevent Andrew continuing 76 00:04:24,974 --> 00:04:27,294 Speaker 1: as the Duke of York, while his birthright to be 77 00:04:27,334 --> 00:04:29,454 Speaker 1: a prince as the son of a monarch could be 78 00:04:29,534 --> 00:04:32,334 Speaker 1: changed if a letters patent were issued by the King. 79 00:04:32,734 --> 00:04:35,894 Speaker 1: The Duke stopped using his Royal highness following his disastrous 80 00:04:35,934 --> 00:04:39,214 Speaker 1: Newsnight interview, but it could be removed entirely too by 81 00:04:39,214 --> 00:04:42,254 Speaker 1: a Letter's patent. The Prince stepped away from his public 82 00:04:42,334 --> 00:04:45,414 Speaker 1: role in twenty nineteen amid the furor over his friendship 83 00:04:45,454 --> 00:04:47,894 Speaker 1: with convicted billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. 84 00:04:48,534 --> 00:04:52,094 Speaker 2: Thanks Clant. Next, absolutely everything you need to know about 85 00:04:52,134 --> 00:05:01,734 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift's brand new album Yesterday, Tuesday, August twelve. When 86 00:05:01,774 --> 00:05:04,414 Speaker 2: I was making this episode of The Quickie, my day 87 00:05:04,734 --> 00:05:08,494 Speaker 2: started as normal. I woke up, trolled the world news, 88 00:05:08,614 --> 00:05:13,134 Speaker 2: attended my editor meeting, and then got stuck into researching, interviewing, 89 00:05:13,174 --> 00:05:16,454 Speaker 2: and generally prepping for what you're listening to right now. 90 00:05:17,254 --> 00:05:21,014 Speaker 2: Of course, so the best laid plans often go awry, 91 00:05:21,734 --> 00:05:25,214 Speaker 2: and that's exactly what happened. Almost immediately after I filed 92 00:05:25,254 --> 00:05:27,934 Speaker 2: what was supposed to be today's episode, when Miss Taylor 93 00:05:27,974 --> 00:05:32,534 Speaker 2: Allison Swift thought she'd around and find out. Now, if 94 00:05:32,574 --> 00:05:34,974 Speaker 2: you like me and not a Swifty, that's okay. Let's 95 00:05:34,974 --> 00:05:37,694 Speaker 2: step through it together. And for those of you who are, 96 00:05:37,934 --> 00:05:41,134 Speaker 2: don't panic. Someone far more qualified than myself is here 97 00:05:41,254 --> 00:05:45,854 Speaker 2: to help. Swift has sent the Internet a blaze announcing 98 00:05:45,894 --> 00:05:49,054 Speaker 2: her twelfth studio album, A Life of a Showgirl. 99 00:05:49,374 --> 00:05:50,774 Speaker 3: So I wanted to show you something. 100 00:05:51,214 --> 00:05:57,334 Speaker 1: Okay, what we got, we got briefcase yep, McK green, yep. 101 00:05:58,214 --> 00:06:00,574 Speaker 3: This is my brand new album, The Life of a 102 00:06:00,614 --> 00:06:01,134 Speaker 3: show Girl. 103 00:06:04,334 --> 00:06:07,854 Speaker 2: A countdown briefly appeared on her website yesterday before directing 104 00:06:07,894 --> 00:06:11,294 Speaker 2: fans to pre pre ordered cop of her forthcoming record, 105 00:06:11,654 --> 00:06:14,534 Speaker 2: which doesn't yet have a release date or any album 106 00:06:14,614 --> 00:06:17,294 Speaker 2: artwork to give us an indication of what to expect. 107 00:06:17,934 --> 00:06:20,454 Speaker 2: It's been a long road to get here. Luckily, our 108 00:06:20,614 --> 00:06:23,814 Speaker 2: entertainment editor Tina Burke is all over this one TV. 109 00:06:24,214 --> 00:06:28,454 Speaker 2: Yesterday started as a normal work day. We all clogged in, 110 00:06:28,654 --> 00:06:31,854 Speaker 2: we started doing our jobs, and then the Muma Mere 111 00:06:31,934 --> 00:06:36,334 Speaker 2: office was thrown into chaos. I suspect largely instigated by you. 112 00:06:37,214 --> 00:06:39,174 Speaker 2: Talk us through what actually happened yesterday. 113 00:06:39,734 --> 00:06:42,054 Speaker 3: Look, I can't confirm modern I if I was being 114 00:06:42,094 --> 00:06:45,094 Speaker 3: a menace to the entire floor yesterday, but like I can, 115 00:06:45,254 --> 00:06:47,134 Speaker 3: I was so pretty much what happened is like, we 116 00:06:47,174 --> 00:06:49,534 Speaker 3: woke up in the morning and if you're a fan 117 00:06:49,574 --> 00:06:52,534 Speaker 3: of Taylor Swift, you probably follow her boyfriend Travis Kelsey 118 00:06:52,614 --> 00:06:55,174 Speaker 3: and his podcast which is called New Heights. It was 119 00:06:55,254 --> 00:06:57,974 Speaker 3: revealed that he had a special guest coming on New 120 00:06:58,014 --> 00:07:00,214 Speaker 3: Heights and they sort of posted this picture with an orange, 121 00:07:00,254 --> 00:07:03,094 Speaker 3: sparkly background and they'd blacked out the figure of whoever 122 00:07:03,094 --> 00:07:05,294 Speaker 3: this mystery guest was, but it was pretty obvious from 123 00:07:05,334 --> 00:07:07,134 Speaker 3: the way that they captured it and like the clickbait 124 00:07:07,174 --> 00:07:09,214 Speaker 3: of it all, that it was going to be Taylor Swift. 125 00:07:09,254 --> 00:07:11,614 Speaker 3: So the day starts with this sort of announcement and 126 00:07:11,654 --> 00:07:15,174 Speaker 3: then twelve minutes after New Heights posts, Tailor Nation does 127 00:07:15,214 --> 00:07:17,174 Speaker 3: a post. Now for those who don't know, which is 128 00:07:17,214 --> 00:07:19,614 Speaker 3: many many people, Tailor Nation is a fan account of 129 00:07:19,614 --> 00:07:22,974 Speaker 3: Taylor Swift. It's not technically affiliated with Taylor, like, she 130 00:07:23,054 --> 00:07:25,494 Speaker 3: does not run it, but they often in conjunction with 131 00:07:25,494 --> 00:07:27,414 Speaker 3: Taylor Swift will like she'll give them their heads up 132 00:07:27,414 --> 00:07:29,734 Speaker 3: that something's coming, so they are a verified fan account 133 00:07:29,774 --> 00:07:31,334 Speaker 3: and she does work with them quite often. 134 00:07:31,374 --> 00:07:32,814 Speaker 1: We're all like, oh, this is. 135 00:07:32,774 --> 00:07:35,054 Speaker 3: Getting a bit suspicious, and if you know anything about 136 00:07:35,094 --> 00:07:37,494 Speaker 3: Taylor Swift, you know that she likes to do things 137 00:07:37,494 --> 00:07:40,534 Speaker 3: with a lot of meaning. Everything has significance, and fans 138 00:07:40,534 --> 00:07:43,414 Speaker 3: started to tie these two little moments together to a 139 00:07:43,414 --> 00:07:46,134 Speaker 3: lot of Easter eggs that came up during the Eras tour. 140 00:07:46,334 --> 00:07:48,294 Speaker 3: And then, you know, we'll go about our day thinking, Okay, 141 00:07:48,334 --> 00:07:50,214 Speaker 3: a couple of days time, we're going to find something out, 142 00:07:50,254 --> 00:07:53,694 Speaker 3: and then suddenly Taylor Swift puts a two hour countdown 143 00:07:53,774 --> 00:07:56,694 Speaker 3: on her website with an orange, glittery background. I came 144 00:07:56,814 --> 00:07:58,894 Speaker 3: running out of a meeting and had to grab everybody 145 00:07:58,934 --> 00:08:00,894 Speaker 3: that I could see to let them know that there 146 00:08:00,934 --> 00:08:02,494 Speaker 3: was a countdown. We have to get it up, guys. 147 00:08:02,494 --> 00:08:04,654 Speaker 3: We got to watch this countdown the most exciting thing 148 00:08:04,694 --> 00:08:05,374 Speaker 3: that's ever happened. 149 00:08:05,414 --> 00:08:08,014 Speaker 2: And then, of course there's all good investigative journalists. Do 150 00:08:08,134 --> 00:08:11,734 Speaker 2: you start theorizing about what countdown will lead to? We 151 00:08:11,814 --> 00:08:14,094 Speaker 2: now know that that is the announcement of a new 152 00:08:14,134 --> 00:08:16,094 Speaker 2: album coming The Life of a show Girl, and I 153 00:08:16,174 --> 00:08:17,454 Speaker 2: want to talk a bit more about that. In a 154 00:08:17,494 --> 00:08:20,294 Speaker 2: moment that people thought that we could be getting an 155 00:08:20,374 --> 00:08:24,054 Speaker 2: album called Karma, we now know that's obviously not the case. 156 00:08:24,574 --> 00:08:28,054 Speaker 2: But TV, what's the deal with Karma? Why was that 157 00:08:28,454 --> 00:08:30,694 Speaker 2: the highly predicted thing we were going to receive. 158 00:08:31,014 --> 00:08:32,814 Speaker 3: It was a theory that had existed for a while, 159 00:08:32,894 --> 00:08:35,014 Speaker 3: but in the Era's tour, when these sort of orange 160 00:08:35,094 --> 00:08:37,934 Speaker 3: hints started popping up, people tied them to Karma. We 161 00:08:38,014 --> 00:08:39,454 Speaker 3: now know It's the Life of a show Girl. But 162 00:08:39,694 --> 00:08:42,454 Speaker 3: Karma was basically a long, rubored album that Swifti's sort 163 00:08:42,494 --> 00:08:45,214 Speaker 3: of thought that she wrote between nineteen eighty nine and Reputation. 164 00:08:45,534 --> 00:08:48,094 Speaker 3: So if you don't remember, nineteen eighty nine was like 165 00:08:48,094 --> 00:08:49,934 Speaker 3: her biggest world tour At that point, it was her 166 00:08:49,934 --> 00:08:52,094 Speaker 3: full transition to pop. She was on top of the world. 167 00:08:52,574 --> 00:08:55,134 Speaker 3: Then she had her fall from grace and after that 168 00:08:55,174 --> 00:08:57,974 Speaker 3: she wrote Reputation after taking a year off. But basically 169 00:08:58,054 --> 00:09:00,854 Speaker 3: people think that she was working on an album and 170 00:09:00,894 --> 00:09:03,174 Speaker 3: that she scrapped it in order to do Reputation after 171 00:09:03,214 --> 00:09:05,094 Speaker 3: things sort of went south for her. So there were 172 00:09:05,094 --> 00:09:06,974 Speaker 3: some fans who were holding onto the idea that maybe 173 00:09:06,974 --> 00:09:09,774 Speaker 3: this Karma album existed somewhere out there. There were easter 174 00:09:09,814 --> 00:09:12,174 Speaker 3: eggs here and there, the word Karma in some Taylor 175 00:09:12,214 --> 00:09:14,494 Speaker 3: Swift you know, music videos and things like that. But 176 00:09:14,534 --> 00:09:16,174 Speaker 3: if you also know Taylor. You know that on the 177 00:09:16,174 --> 00:09:18,294 Speaker 3: Midnight's album she had a song called Karma, so she's 178 00:09:18,374 --> 00:09:19,054 Speaker 3: kind of been there. 179 00:09:18,934 --> 00:09:19,214 Speaker 1: Done that. 180 00:09:19,454 --> 00:09:21,374 Speaker 2: Okay, So Life of the show Girl is the name 181 00:09:21,414 --> 00:09:24,774 Speaker 2: of this new album. Do those words mean anything in 182 00:09:24,814 --> 00:09:26,894 Speaker 2: the world of Taylor Swift. We know that she's fond 183 00:09:26,934 --> 00:09:28,774 Speaker 2: of an Easter egg, So does this have any sort 184 00:09:28,774 --> 00:09:29,974 Speaker 2: of symbolic meaning? 185 00:09:30,374 --> 00:09:32,734 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure I'm gonna think about this later 186 00:09:32,854 --> 00:09:35,054 Speaker 3: and come up with a million reasons as to why 187 00:09:35,214 --> 00:09:37,494 Speaker 3: my interpretation of it as a fan is that. Obviously, 188 00:09:37,574 --> 00:09:40,134 Speaker 3: if you saw the era's tour once she incorporated her 189 00:09:40,174 --> 00:09:43,174 Speaker 3: album The Tortured Poets Department, she had a song called 190 00:09:43,174 --> 00:09:44,734 Speaker 3: I Can Do It with a Broken Heart, and when 191 00:09:44,734 --> 00:09:47,454 Speaker 3: she performed that, it was like a big stage production 192 00:09:47,574 --> 00:09:49,934 Speaker 3: with feathers and big movements, and it was sort of 193 00:09:49,974 --> 00:09:53,174 Speaker 3: like a real show Girl production. So people had already 194 00:09:53,174 --> 00:09:55,774 Speaker 3: tied in this sort of feathery performance to maybe a 195 00:09:55,774 --> 00:09:58,734 Speaker 3: few hints and clues with the orange and the purples. 196 00:09:58,734 --> 00:10:00,814 Speaker 3: They thought that it might all tie together, and it 197 00:10:00,894 --> 00:10:03,974 Speaker 3: sort of has in this showgirl theme. But obviously, the 198 00:10:04,014 --> 00:10:05,894 Speaker 3: pretty obvious thing is she just did like this massive 199 00:10:05,934 --> 00:10:08,054 Speaker 3: world tour. She was on stage every night, performing no 200 00:10:08,094 --> 00:10:10,414 Speaker 3: matter what heartbreaks or excitements she was going through. She 201 00:10:10,454 --> 00:10:13,574 Speaker 3: often references herself as like this big performer and show girl. 202 00:10:13,654 --> 00:10:15,454 Speaker 3: So for me, that's what it's about. But I'm sure 203 00:10:15,454 --> 00:10:17,614 Speaker 3: someone is gonna do a bit of detective work and 204 00:10:17,654 --> 00:10:18,614 Speaker 3: find out the answer for you. 205 00:10:19,094 --> 00:10:21,694 Speaker 2: Okay, So we know that Taylor Swift likes to assign 206 00:10:21,814 --> 00:10:24,574 Speaker 2: a color per era or per album. What's gonna happen 207 00:10:24,614 --> 00:10:26,134 Speaker 2: when she runs out of colours? TV? 208 00:10:26,614 --> 00:10:29,254 Speaker 3: We're running out of colors? Okay. That was where a 209 00:10:29,254 --> 00:10:31,414 Speaker 3: lot of this orange came from. It first, I didn't 210 00:10:31,454 --> 00:10:33,974 Speaker 3: even believe it. I thought people were just being classic 211 00:10:34,014 --> 00:10:36,374 Speaker 3: Swifties making something up because we were like, she neats 212 00:10:36,414 --> 00:10:38,214 Speaker 3: a new color. I don't know she's gonna have to 213 00:10:38,214 --> 00:10:39,734 Speaker 3: invent a new one, but if anyone can do it, 214 00:10:39,774 --> 00:10:42,694 Speaker 3: I trust Taylor Swift. The orange started to appear on 215 00:10:42,734 --> 00:10:45,534 Speaker 3: the Era's tour throughout things, so like when she left 216 00:10:45,534 --> 00:10:47,774 Speaker 3: on her last show, there was this whole motif with doors. 217 00:10:47,774 --> 00:10:49,334 Speaker 3: I don't have to get into it, it would take us 218 00:10:49,374 --> 00:10:51,614 Speaker 3: too long. There was a big orange door at her 219 00:10:51,614 --> 00:10:54,694 Speaker 3: final show, which you know signifies the new Era. There 220 00:10:54,814 --> 00:10:56,974 Speaker 3: was like orange glitter in a video she posted the 221 00:10:57,014 --> 00:10:58,934 Speaker 3: other day. At the end of her Era's TourBook that 222 00:10:59,054 --> 00:11:01,174 Speaker 3: she released, there was a really like orange and pink 223 00:11:01,534 --> 00:11:03,494 Speaker 3: color scheme and the text of the end said see 224 00:11:03,534 --> 00:11:05,734 Speaker 3: you in the next Era. Swifties know that if you 225 00:11:05,774 --> 00:11:09,094 Speaker 3: see something a couple times, it probably means something. And 226 00:11:09,134 --> 00:11:10,774 Speaker 3: you know, she wore a few orange outfits on the 227 00:11:10,774 --> 00:11:13,094 Speaker 3: Air's tour, which didn't fit into any of her existing 228 00:11:13,094 --> 00:11:15,734 Speaker 3: color schemes, so it all was very intentional. 229 00:11:15,934 --> 00:11:18,894 Speaker 2: Okay, so now all of our attention turns to the 230 00:11:18,934 --> 00:11:23,094 Speaker 2: next episode of her boyfriend Travis Kelsey's podcast, New Heights. 231 00:11:23,214 --> 00:11:25,534 Speaker 2: We know that the Life of a show Girl is coming. 232 00:11:25,574 --> 00:11:27,374 Speaker 2: We haven't got a date yet. What do you think 233 00:11:27,414 --> 00:11:29,654 Speaker 2: is going to happen when she is the guest on 234 00:11:29,694 --> 00:11:32,534 Speaker 2: their podcast? Like, surely that's not the place that she 235 00:11:32,614 --> 00:11:33,974 Speaker 2: announces the release date. 236 00:11:34,374 --> 00:11:37,614 Speaker 3: This is so different to anything else we've ever really had. 237 00:11:37,614 --> 00:11:40,614 Speaker 3: As Swiftiest, she would often host these fanoments in her 238 00:11:40,654 --> 00:11:42,694 Speaker 3: own home where she would get Swifties along and she 239 00:11:42,734 --> 00:11:44,094 Speaker 3: would talk to them about her new album, and she 240 00:11:44,094 --> 00:11:45,854 Speaker 3: would speak to them about the tracks and let them 241 00:11:45,894 --> 00:11:47,374 Speaker 3: know what was coming, and then there would be like 242 00:11:47,374 --> 00:11:49,574 Speaker 3: a bigger roll out plan. But we've never had her 243 00:11:49,614 --> 00:11:51,694 Speaker 3: really sit done on a podcast, let alone like her 244 00:11:51,734 --> 00:11:53,854 Speaker 3: boyfriend's podcast, and sit there and talk with him and 245 00:11:53,854 --> 00:11:56,494 Speaker 3: his family about what it is. So this is quite 246 00:11:56,614 --> 00:12:00,054 Speaker 3: unprecedented times. But I think she'll obviously talk through with 247 00:12:00,134 --> 00:12:02,654 Speaker 3: them what it's about, what the songs are called. She 248 00:12:02,734 --> 00:12:05,134 Speaker 3: might tease some collabs, but I'm sure she won't give 249 00:12:05,134 --> 00:12:07,854 Speaker 3: everything away because she loves to roll things out slowly. 250 00:12:08,174 --> 00:12:10,654 Speaker 3: The drop ship date is of October thirteen if you 251 00:12:10,694 --> 00:12:13,734 Speaker 3: pre order the records, so maybe around them is when 252 00:12:13,734 --> 00:12:15,414 Speaker 3: we're going to get it. I'm hoping that when she 253 00:12:15,454 --> 00:12:17,414 Speaker 3: does the podcast, she gives us the release date, because 254 00:12:17,454 --> 00:12:19,814 Speaker 3: I can't take any more surprises. Yesterday was a f. 255 00:12:21,774 --> 00:12:23,894 Speaker 2: A couple of weeks ago, we brought you a story 256 00:12:23,894 --> 00:12:27,734 Speaker 2: about the declining birth rate in Australia, but it turns 257 00:12:27,774 --> 00:12:33,334 Speaker 2: out there's another rate that's dropped. In fact, recent data 258 00:12:33,454 --> 00:12:37,134 Speaker 2: shows Australia's divorce rate is at its lowest point since 259 00:12:37,174 --> 00:12:41,054 Speaker 2: no fault divorces began fifty years ago. What's a no 260 00:12:41,134 --> 00:12:43,934 Speaker 2: fault divorce? You ask? Basically, you can call it quits 261 00:12:43,974 --> 00:12:46,734 Speaker 2: without having to prove anyone did something wrong to end 262 00:12:46,734 --> 00:12:49,774 Speaker 2: the marriage. You can just say it's not working anymore 263 00:12:49,894 --> 00:12:53,534 Speaker 2: and all's well. In twenty twenty four, there were just 264 00:12:53,614 --> 00:12:57,134 Speaker 2: two point one divorces per one thousand adults age sixteen 265 00:12:57,214 --> 00:13:01,574 Speaker 2: and over. Marriages on average are lasting longer, and a 266 00:13:01,614 --> 00:13:05,054 Speaker 2: lot fewer people are going through the courts. So what's 267 00:13:05,094 --> 00:13:08,654 Speaker 2: behind the shift away from Splitsville. Well, it's not just 268 00:13:08,734 --> 00:13:12,894 Speaker 2: that couples have suddenly become happier or better matched. For starters. 269 00:13:13,014 --> 00:13:16,134 Speaker 2: More Aussies live together before marriage, which acts like a 270 00:13:16,174 --> 00:13:19,494 Speaker 2: relationship test drive, making it less likely they'll rush into 271 00:13:19,574 --> 00:13:23,454 Speaker 2: marriage and more likely the partnership will last. There's also 272 00:13:23,494 --> 00:13:27,294 Speaker 2: a big rise in living apart together relationships, that's couples 273 00:13:27,334 --> 00:13:32,374 Speaker 2: who stay together romantically but live separately. Also, marriage itself 274 00:13:32,494 --> 00:13:35,374 Speaker 2: is less central than it was in the baby Boom decades, 275 00:13:35,574 --> 00:13:41,334 Speaker 2: with fewer people marrying and more living in diverse family setups. Overall, 276 00:13:41,374 --> 00:13:44,014 Speaker 2: the rate of marriage has more than half since nineteen 277 00:13:44,174 --> 00:13:48,094 Speaker 2: seventy one, dropping from thirteen marriages per one thousand people 278 00:13:48,174 --> 00:13:51,054 Speaker 2: age sixteen and over to five point five in twenty 279 00:13:51,134 --> 00:13:55,294 Speaker 2: twenty four. Society has shifted and the drive for nuclear 280 00:13:55,374 --> 00:13:58,814 Speaker 2: family is no longer the gold standard, opening space for 281 00:13:58,854 --> 00:14:02,294 Speaker 2: new ways to love, live, and raise children without resorting 282 00:14:02,334 --> 00:14:05,054 Speaker 2: to the courts. There is, of course other reasons why 283 00:14:05,134 --> 00:14:08,094 Speaker 2: the rate is so low. Financially divorced through the court 284 00:14:08,134 --> 00:14:11,334 Speaker 2: system is not viable for everyone. Were the cheap marriage 285 00:14:11,374 --> 00:14:16,454 Speaker 2: dissolution starting upwards of ten grand And of course, with 286 00:14:16,574 --> 00:14:20,014 Speaker 2: domestic violence being such a widespread issue in this country, 287 00:14:20,174 --> 00:14:22,934 Speaker 2: it cannot be ignored as a possible factor in the 288 00:14:22,974 --> 00:14:26,374 Speaker 2: lower divorce rate. Some women may be too scared to 289 00:14:26,494 --> 00:14:31,014 Speaker 2: legally severtize with their abuser, which yes, does mean fewer divorces, 290 00:14:31,294 --> 00:14:35,894 Speaker 2: but for all the wrong reasons. Thanks for taking some 291 00:14:35,974 --> 00:14:38,694 Speaker 2: time to feed your mind with us today. Hey, before 292 00:14:38,694 --> 00:14:42,174 Speaker 2: your head off, we could really use your help. We're 293 00:14:42,174 --> 00:14:44,414 Speaker 2: working on something behind the scenes here at Mamma Mea, 294 00:14:44,494 --> 00:14:47,454 Speaker 2: and your smart, honest opinions will help us make our 295 00:14:47,494 --> 00:14:51,374 Speaker 2: content even better. It'll only take about twenty minutes, and 296 00:14:51,614 --> 00:14:54,254 Speaker 2: as a thank you, you'll score a ten dollar eek 297 00:14:54,294 --> 00:14:58,494 Speaker 2: gift card plus a one month subscription. 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