1 00:00:10,709 --> 00:00:15,349 Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mom and Maya 2 00:00:15,429 --> 00:00:18,669 Speaker 1: acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters that this 3 00:00:18,709 --> 00:00:20,069 Speaker 1: podcast is recorded on. 4 00:00:21,389 --> 00:00:23,949 Speaker 2: I am pregnanty. 5 00:00:26,789 --> 00:00:29,789 Speaker 1: Welcome to Hello Bump. We're making pregnancy less overwhelming and 6 00:00:29,909 --> 00:00:32,909 Speaker 1: more manageable, hopefully. I'm Grace Reubray. I'm pregnant for the 7 00:00:32,949 --> 00:00:34,909 Speaker 1: first time and I thought I needed to wee a 8 00:00:34,909 --> 00:00:37,349 Speaker 1: lot before, but now I'm need to we a lot. 9 00:00:37,909 --> 00:00:39,429 Speaker 2: We should talk about that though, and case you've got 10 00:00:39,469 --> 00:00:41,229 Speaker 2: a urine retract infection. But let's get there down there 11 00:00:41,229 --> 00:00:43,949 Speaker 2: a few minutes. Agoy. My Name'siana Pittman. I'm a former 12 00:00:44,029 --> 00:00:46,789 Speaker 2: Olympian for Australia. I'm a mother of six beautiful kiddies, 13 00:00:46,789 --> 00:00:48,309 Speaker 2: and I'm training to be an Obstritrician. 14 00:00:48,469 --> 00:00:50,309 Speaker 1: Each week, Yanner and I will be holding your hand, 15 00:00:50,389 --> 00:00:52,709 Speaker 1: week by week through the mysterious, perplexing and sometimes very 16 00:00:52,789 --> 00:00:55,949 Speaker 1: urgent and desperate miracle that is pregnancy, all the way 17 00:00:55,989 --> 00:01:00,589 Speaker 1: from a poppy seed to a pumpkin. Oh week third 18 00:01:00,669 --> 00:01:04,949 Speaker 1: and what what size is our baby? Too? 19 00:01:05,029 --> 00:01:08,229 Speaker 2: Sliced toaster is what Google told me today. I don't 20 00:01:08,229 --> 00:01:11,029 Speaker 2: know if I like that though. It's about in the 21 00:01:11,029 --> 00:01:12,029 Speaker 2: oven so you know. 22 00:01:12,269 --> 00:01:14,909 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a theme there to leave there. I've got 23 00:01:14,909 --> 00:01:18,029 Speaker 1: a baby otter. I love way they play. 24 00:01:17,829 --> 00:01:19,309 Speaker 2: With their own babies as well at the zoo is 25 00:01:19,309 --> 00:01:20,989 Speaker 2: one of my favorite animals to watch. I have a 26 00:01:21,029 --> 00:01:22,069 Speaker 2: short nose, a kidnap. 27 00:01:22,309 --> 00:01:22,869 Speaker 1: I love that. 28 00:01:23,189 --> 00:01:24,469 Speaker 2: I don't even know if there's a big nose or 29 00:01:24,469 --> 00:01:25,149 Speaker 2: a long nose and a. 30 00:01:25,069 --> 00:01:27,909 Speaker 1: Short like an ant eater AQ. Maybe I don't know 31 00:01:28,109 --> 00:01:29,629 Speaker 1: neither do I that's not our specialty. 32 00:01:30,349 --> 00:01:33,269 Speaker 2: I'm moving along. Baby is now weighing between one point 33 00:01:33,349 --> 00:01:36,069 Speaker 2: five and one point six kilos on average. Remember guys, 34 00:01:36,069 --> 00:01:39,069 Speaker 2: it's just an average, and it's about forty one centimeters long. 35 00:01:39,149 --> 00:01:41,589 Speaker 2: Like that's getting it's all wrapped up inside you there, 36 00:01:41,909 --> 00:01:42,589 Speaker 2: it's getting long. 37 00:01:42,629 --> 00:01:45,189 Speaker 1: When you look down at your belly, you go how 38 00:01:45,269 --> 00:01:46,149 Speaker 1: and where. 39 00:01:46,069 --> 00:01:50,109 Speaker 2: Exactly because it's hide up inside or snuggling safe and 40 00:01:50,149 --> 00:01:52,349 Speaker 2: how are they developing? So this week I think what's 41 00:01:52,349 --> 00:01:54,349 Speaker 2: really sweet is they're starting to hear a lot more 42 00:01:54,349 --> 00:01:56,429 Speaker 2: outside of the womb. So you know, we've obviously been 43 00:01:56,429 --> 00:01:58,549 Speaker 2: playing music or talking about what sort of soundtracks you 44 00:01:58,549 --> 00:02:00,389 Speaker 2: want for your birth, but it's time they can start 45 00:02:00,389 --> 00:02:02,549 Speaker 2: really connecting with you. So if you do have a partner, 46 00:02:02,709 --> 00:02:04,629 Speaker 2: it's a lovely time to start engaging them and getting 47 00:02:04,669 --> 00:02:06,509 Speaker 2: them to talk to the baby. Their eyes are starting 48 00:02:06,549 --> 00:02:08,109 Speaker 2: to open now and they can certainly see the dark 49 00:02:08,269 --> 00:02:10,389 Speaker 2: between dark and night and things like that, so it's 50 00:02:10,469 --> 00:02:12,189 Speaker 2: quite a special time. And their lungs are starting to 51 00:02:12,189 --> 00:02:14,469 Speaker 2: develop pretty well now as well. So we're almost moving 52 00:02:14,469 --> 00:02:16,269 Speaker 2: past till a couple of weeks, moving past the point 53 00:02:16,309 --> 00:02:18,069 Speaker 2: where you'd need steroids if you went into labor. 54 00:02:18,389 --> 00:02:22,229 Speaker 1: What's happening to me and what's happening to us? 55 00:02:22,509 --> 00:02:24,949 Speaker 2: Many women now find I get a lot more emotional 56 00:02:25,029 --> 00:02:27,869 Speaker 2: in the third trimester, so because the reality of life 57 00:02:27,909 --> 00:02:30,589 Speaker 2: and what's happening and the big changes are certainly coming close. 58 00:02:30,629 --> 00:02:32,549 Speaker 2: So they're feeling less comfortable in their body. They're waddling 59 00:02:32,589 --> 00:02:34,589 Speaker 2: a bit more. The swelling is starting to happen. We 60 00:02:34,669 --> 00:02:36,789 Speaker 2: kind of talked about this at the beginning, but the 61 00:02:36,949 --> 00:02:40,709 Speaker 2: urine refrequency means how many times you pee is becoming urgent. 62 00:02:41,229 --> 00:02:44,989 Speaker 1: So I have questions on this is Sometimes the needing 63 00:02:44,989 --> 00:02:47,549 Speaker 1: to wei is just it feels like pressure. It doesn't 64 00:02:47,549 --> 00:02:49,669 Speaker 1: feel like if you've been locked in a car trip 65 00:02:49,709 --> 00:02:51,149 Speaker 1: and you go, oh my god, we need to pull 66 00:02:51,189 --> 00:02:53,109 Speaker 1: over to wee. It's not that it's this it's a 67 00:02:53,109 --> 00:02:56,029 Speaker 1: different pressure feeling. And then other times I can just 68 00:02:56,069 --> 00:02:58,949 Speaker 1: be sitting at my desk and it is that feeling 69 00:02:59,029 --> 00:03:00,749 Speaker 1: of needing to we of like, I don't know if 70 00:03:00,789 --> 00:03:02,989 Speaker 1: she's just rolled and hit Yeah she hit the bladder 71 00:03:03,349 --> 00:03:05,989 Speaker 1: or something like that, but it's they're two very distinct 72 00:03:05,989 --> 00:03:08,549 Speaker 1: different things. But I need to use the bathroom. That's right. 73 00:03:08,589 --> 00:03:10,469 Speaker 2: I mean you've got to remember that the blood, it's 74 00:03:10,549 --> 00:03:12,669 Speaker 2: right in front of the uterus and it's now big 75 00:03:12,709 --> 00:03:15,149 Speaker 2: and expanding, and that baby is literally sitting on your blood, 76 00:03:15,189 --> 00:03:17,109 Speaker 2: which I'm sure you've heard your your grammars and your 77 00:03:17,149 --> 00:03:17,589 Speaker 2: friends say. 78 00:03:17,509 --> 00:03:18,829 Speaker 1: Oh's sitting all my blood. I've got to go to 79 00:03:18,829 --> 00:03:20,309 Speaker 1: the toilet, so it's real. 80 00:03:20,429 --> 00:03:23,029 Speaker 2: You know, your bladder is squashed, therefore it has a 81 00:03:23,149 --> 00:03:26,669 Speaker 2: smaller capacity to hold urine. You've got an increased dilation 82 00:03:26,749 --> 00:03:28,909 Speaker 2: of the kidneys, so the actual vessels that feed through, 83 00:03:28,909 --> 00:03:31,789 Speaker 2: so you're having more increased GFI. So basically that just 84 00:03:31,789 --> 00:03:35,469 Speaker 2: means how quickly your kidneys filter urine, and so you 85 00:03:35,509 --> 00:03:37,349 Speaker 2: do pee a lot. We're trying to get rid of 86 00:03:37,389 --> 00:03:39,629 Speaker 2: things you don't need. Sol it's trying to detox your 87 00:03:39,629 --> 00:03:41,709 Speaker 2: body in certain ways. Along with your liver, and so 88 00:03:41,749 --> 00:03:43,589 Speaker 2: it's important that that happens now. I think the thing 89 00:03:43,629 --> 00:03:47,269 Speaker 2: to consider though, is that changes in your urinary system 90 00:03:47,269 --> 00:03:50,069 Speaker 2: also does predispose you to urine retract infections. So I 91 00:03:50,069 --> 00:03:52,069 Speaker 2: think it's a nice time now to just say, if 92 00:03:52,109 --> 00:03:54,909 Speaker 2: your urine is coming more frequently, it smells a little bit, 93 00:03:55,149 --> 00:03:57,149 Speaker 2: there's a bit of stinging and burning, it's time to 94 00:03:57,189 --> 00:03:59,149 Speaker 2: actually distill a sample for your doctor and check that 95 00:03:59,149 --> 00:04:02,309 Speaker 2: there's nothing growing in that urine. Now, why is that important? 96 00:04:02,389 --> 00:04:04,709 Speaker 2: Couple of things. Firstly, no one wants a urin attract infection. 97 00:04:04,829 --> 00:04:05,229 Speaker 1: It hurts. 98 00:04:05,469 --> 00:04:06,989 Speaker 2: There's a chance it could go actually up into the 99 00:04:07,029 --> 00:04:10,029 Speaker 2: kidneys called pilonephritis, and that's a really serious condition impregnant. 100 00:04:10,709 --> 00:04:12,989 Speaker 2: We also know that any infection in the vagina or 101 00:04:13,109 --> 00:04:15,109 Speaker 2: in the in the bladder can actually stimulate labor a 102 00:04:15,149 --> 00:04:16,909 Speaker 2: little bit early. So we don't want to have an 103 00:04:16,909 --> 00:04:19,949 Speaker 2: irritated bladder because we don't want the uterus to become irritated. 104 00:04:20,029 --> 00:04:21,829 Speaker 2: So we call it ushrine irritability. When you have that, 105 00:04:21,869 --> 00:04:23,709 Speaker 2: what we call threatened pre term labor, where you just 106 00:04:23,709 --> 00:04:24,509 Speaker 2: get irritated, and. 107 00:04:24,429 --> 00:04:26,789 Speaker 1: Often it's just an infection. If we treat it, it goes away. 108 00:04:27,389 --> 00:04:30,109 Speaker 2: The scary thing is we have what's called asymptomatic back 109 00:04:30,149 --> 00:04:32,629 Speaker 2: to EU, which basically means we have bacteria in our 110 00:04:32,869 --> 00:04:36,309 Speaker 2: urine that sometimes doesn't even cause symptoms. So around this 111 00:04:36,349 --> 00:04:38,069 Speaker 2: time you might even find that your midwife, if you 112 00:04:38,109 --> 00:04:40,309 Speaker 2: have any increased frequency, might just get your pee in 113 00:04:40,309 --> 00:04:42,549 Speaker 2: a cup. If it's normal, great, If it's not better 114 00:04:42,589 --> 00:04:45,669 Speaker 2: to have some antibiotics now than later in the pregnancy. 115 00:04:45,309 --> 00:04:47,989 Speaker 1: So you can just request that next appointment to say, 116 00:04:47,989 --> 00:04:49,309 Speaker 1: can I also do a urine. 117 00:04:49,069 --> 00:04:51,669 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and certainly if you've had urine attracted infections in 118 00:04:51,669 --> 00:04:53,629 Speaker 2: the past so you'll be prone to it, it's definitely 119 00:04:53,629 --> 00:04:55,309 Speaker 2: worth doing because we know our immune system is a 120 00:04:55,349 --> 00:04:58,029 Speaker 2: little less good at fighting enduring pregnancy, so therefore we 121 00:04:58,069 --> 00:04:59,989 Speaker 2: need to make sure that something's not growing. If you 122 00:04:59,989 --> 00:05:03,069 Speaker 2: have diabetes again, you're even higher higher risk unfortunately, of 123 00:05:03,069 --> 00:05:05,109 Speaker 2: getting infections, particularly of a urinary nature. 124 00:05:06,029 --> 00:05:06,669 Speaker 1: Is this normal? 125 00:05:06,789 --> 00:05:07,429 Speaker 2: Is normal? 126 00:05:08,269 --> 00:05:12,989 Speaker 1: Is this normal is around Braxton Hicks? Yes? So the 127 00:05:12,989 --> 00:05:14,989 Speaker 1: only reference I have a Braxton Hicks is from an 128 00:05:14,989 --> 00:05:17,949 Speaker 1: episode in Friends, Okay, go, where are we through that? 129 00:05:18,229 --> 00:05:20,949 Speaker 1: When Rachel has them and like Ross is like, oh, 130 00:05:20,989 --> 00:05:24,709 Speaker 1: most women don't even feel those? Is everything Okay, your 131 00:05:24,709 --> 00:05:25,949 Speaker 1: preacher had come to the hospital. 132 00:05:25,949 --> 00:05:27,069 Speaker 2: What was it? What happened? 133 00:05:27,109 --> 00:05:29,709 Speaker 1: But it's something called Braxton Hicks contraction. 134 00:05:29,949 --> 00:05:34,189 Speaker 2: Oh god, that's a big deal. Most women don't even 135 00:05:34,189 --> 00:05:34,669 Speaker 2: feel them. 136 00:05:34,749 --> 00:05:38,589 Speaker 1: Okay, no uterus, no opinion. That is my only And 137 00:05:38,749 --> 00:05:41,149 Speaker 1: but I knew that it meant you're close to labor. 138 00:05:41,269 --> 00:05:42,909 Speaker 1: That was sort of the only thing I kind of knew. 139 00:05:43,069 --> 00:05:45,829 Speaker 1: And when I was having an appointment with my midwife, 140 00:05:45,949 --> 00:05:48,389 Speaker 1: she was doing measuring me or feeling where the baby was, 141 00:05:48,429 --> 00:05:49,989 Speaker 1: and she had her hands on me and she goes, oh, 142 00:05:50,029 --> 00:05:51,629 Speaker 1: you're having a Braxton hick. Did you feel that? And 143 00:05:51,629 --> 00:05:53,909 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that, I kind of feel that. 144 00:05:54,069 --> 00:05:56,869 Speaker 1: All the time. I had no idea what it was. 145 00:05:56,989 --> 00:05:58,229 Speaker 1: I just thought, well, actually I just thought it was 146 00:05:58,269 --> 00:06:00,069 Speaker 1: like slow moving boughs or cramps. 147 00:06:00,989 --> 00:06:02,869 Speaker 2: And look, it could be that too, because that is 148 00:06:02,869 --> 00:06:05,389 Speaker 2: definitely something that can that can mimic a Braxton hick. Now, 149 00:06:05,469 --> 00:06:07,749 Speaker 2: I think the hard part about this is determining to 150 00:06:07,749 --> 00:06:10,069 Speaker 2: split it into is it just a Braxton Hicks contraction? 151 00:06:10,109 --> 00:06:11,589 Speaker 2: And we'll talk about the best ways to sort of 152 00:06:11,669 --> 00:06:14,949 Speaker 2: determine that versus am I in preterm labor? Because again, 153 00:06:15,069 --> 00:06:16,949 Speaker 2: between thirty and thirty four weeks. We don't want you 154 00:06:17,029 --> 00:06:19,509 Speaker 2: laboring at home. Bobby still needs ane and natal support 155 00:06:19,549 --> 00:06:21,109 Speaker 2: if they were to come out, and the steroids and 156 00:06:21,109 --> 00:06:23,189 Speaker 2: things like that. So the thing is to sit down 157 00:06:23,229 --> 00:06:25,309 Speaker 2: and watch what those contractions do. Now, if you get 158 00:06:25,309 --> 00:06:27,389 Speaker 2: distracted and you walk around the house and they go away, 159 00:06:27,509 --> 00:06:29,709 Speaker 2: they're Braxton Hicks. If you drink some water and go 160 00:06:29,749 --> 00:06:31,869 Speaker 2: to sleep and they're gone in the morning, they're Braxton Hicks. 161 00:06:32,149 --> 00:06:34,269 Speaker 2: If they're regular and they're tight and you can't talk 162 00:06:34,309 --> 00:06:36,389 Speaker 2: through them. Even if they are braxton Hicks, you need 163 00:06:36,429 --> 00:06:38,189 Speaker 2: to come and see us to make sure that they're 164 00:06:38,189 --> 00:06:41,069 Speaker 2: nothing that's progressing, because it does happen. You know, we 165 00:06:41,149 --> 00:06:43,429 Speaker 2: do have women that go into preterm labor, and one 166 00:06:43,469 --> 00:06:46,389 Speaker 2: of the starting symptoms is back pain like a period, 167 00:06:46,669 --> 00:06:49,469 Speaker 2: cramping in the vagina, and those tightenings. A lot of 168 00:06:49,549 --> 00:06:52,709 Speaker 2: midwives will say, brax and Hicks start every around the 169 00:06:52,749 --> 00:06:54,309 Speaker 2: back of your sides, are a little bit in your back. 170 00:06:54,389 --> 00:06:57,469 Speaker 2: True contractions are the entire uterus, but I have certainly 171 00:06:57,469 --> 00:06:59,669 Speaker 2: seen what we call some silent labor where there's those 172 00:06:59,709 --> 00:07:02,549 Speaker 2: Braxton Hicks contractions that do eventually turn into labor. So 173 00:07:02,589 --> 00:07:04,749 Speaker 2: it's important to just get the checked, and. 174 00:07:04,709 --> 00:07:06,509 Speaker 1: What would you if you're having them, what's the next 175 00:07:06,549 --> 00:07:08,629 Speaker 1: step that makes you go, oh, I should be getting 176 00:07:08,629 --> 00:07:11,749 Speaker 1: that tech if it's they become regular or it is 177 00:07:11,869 --> 00:07:14,269 Speaker 1: painful rather than uncomfortable. 178 00:07:13,629 --> 00:07:16,109 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, and they don't go away with a position change, 179 00:07:16,229 --> 00:07:18,349 Speaker 2: having a drink, having something to be walking around. 180 00:07:18,429 --> 00:07:20,389 Speaker 1: We spoke about when you should got a maternity leave. 181 00:07:20,949 --> 00:07:22,389 Speaker 1: I get them more when I'm at work. 182 00:07:22,509 --> 00:07:24,269 Speaker 2: Of course, you're busy and you're moving around in the list. 183 00:07:24,589 --> 00:07:27,109 Speaker 2: Abdominal muscles are stretching, and you're pulling all those tendons 184 00:07:27,989 --> 00:07:29,589 Speaker 2: like another thing we often do. So if you came 185 00:07:29,589 --> 00:07:31,429 Speaker 2: to the berth unit to see me, because it's often 186 00:07:31,429 --> 00:07:32,909 Speaker 2: me these days on the birth unit that you'll come 187 00:07:32,909 --> 00:07:35,509 Speaker 2: and say hello to, we would often give you some panadole. Initially, 188 00:07:35,509 --> 00:07:37,269 Speaker 2: we'd pop the CTG monitor on and see if we 189 00:07:37,309 --> 00:07:39,789 Speaker 2: can see any of that uterine activity, and we'd feel 190 00:07:39,829 --> 00:07:41,749 Speaker 2: your tummy. So if you feel your tummy and your 191 00:07:41,749 --> 00:07:44,509 Speaker 2: tummy is rock hard and it's forty five seconds long 192 00:07:44,549 --> 00:07:47,029 Speaker 2: and they're coming every couple of minutes, it doesn't matter 193 00:07:47,029 --> 00:07:48,469 Speaker 2: if they go away, it's still better to come in 194 00:07:48,509 --> 00:07:52,549 Speaker 2: and get an assessment. What will that mean A speculum. Sorry, ladies, 195 00:07:52,629 --> 00:07:54,189 Speaker 2: but it does mean we'll have a look at your service. 196 00:07:54,269 --> 00:07:57,589 Speaker 2: If your servix is open, those braxtons are real. If 197 00:07:57,589 --> 00:08:01,549 Speaker 2: your servants is long, long and closed, we're less concerned. 198 00:08:01,829 --> 00:08:03,149 Speaker 2: And I think this sort of comes back into the 199 00:08:03,269 --> 00:08:05,589 Speaker 2: urine as well. At this point you might find you 200 00:08:05,589 --> 00:08:10,629 Speaker 2: yourself a little bit, so that can sometimes be your waters. 201 00:08:10,629 --> 00:08:12,189 Speaker 2: So we get a lot of women coming in around 202 00:08:12,189 --> 00:08:13,949 Speaker 2: this time and in pregnancy saying I think I've broken 203 00:08:13,989 --> 00:08:15,509 Speaker 2: my waters and it's just that they're having a bit 204 00:08:15,509 --> 00:08:17,669 Speaker 2: of an accident from the urine. Very normal, and I 205 00:08:17,829 --> 00:08:20,069 Speaker 2: much prefer it to be UI than you're amniotic fly. 206 00:08:20,149 --> 00:08:23,029 Speaker 1: I actually called about that. It's like slightly gross, but 207 00:08:23,069 --> 00:08:25,109 Speaker 1: I feel like it should be shared. Is that I 208 00:08:25,469 --> 00:08:28,149 Speaker 1: was noticing I didn't look like discharge, but I didn't 209 00:08:28,189 --> 00:08:29,829 Speaker 1: know if it was we But then I didn't know 210 00:08:29,869 --> 00:08:32,389 Speaker 1: how much was amniotic fluid. Yeah, but it was definitely 211 00:08:32,389 --> 00:08:35,389 Speaker 1: just more wet down there. And their advice was to 212 00:08:35,589 --> 00:08:38,549 Speaker 1: put on a pad, yes exactly, and then wait either 213 00:08:38,589 --> 00:08:40,829 Speaker 1: overnight or wait a few hours, and if it's like 214 00:08:40,869 --> 00:08:43,629 Speaker 1: if it's amniotic fluid, it'll keep coming, it'll keep com backtly. 215 00:08:44,389 --> 00:08:46,189 Speaker 2: Most of the time, see, we've got these constantly at 216 00:08:46,189 --> 00:08:49,509 Speaker 2: the moment, most of the time the leaking will keep happening. Now, 217 00:08:50,229 --> 00:08:51,749 Speaker 2: the caveat to that is that sometimes you get what's 218 00:08:51,749 --> 00:08:53,549 Speaker 2: called a hind Bader leak, and therefore you get a 219 00:08:53,549 --> 00:08:54,829 Speaker 2: bit of a leak and it doesn't go But that 220 00:08:54,869 --> 00:08:56,629 Speaker 2: tends to happen on repeat. You know, you have it 221 00:08:56,629 --> 00:08:58,189 Speaker 2: one day and you'll have it a few more days later. 222 00:08:58,589 --> 00:09:00,309 Speaker 2: You can come to the berth unit if you are concerned, 223 00:09:00,349 --> 00:09:02,109 Speaker 2: and we do these special tests. They're called an act 224 00:09:02,109 --> 00:09:04,389 Speaker 2: and prom or a test that particularly looks at the 225 00:09:04,389 --> 00:09:07,069 Speaker 2: proteins in the amniotic fluid and can differentiate it from 226 00:09:07,189 --> 00:09:10,429 Speaker 2: urine versus your amniotic fluid. And why is it important? Guys? Oh, well, 227 00:09:10,469 --> 00:09:12,189 Speaker 2: I'm only thirty two weeks as long as I'm not contracting, 228 00:09:12,269 --> 00:09:14,749 Speaker 2: Why does it matter if I'm leaking, Because that amniotic 229 00:09:14,749 --> 00:09:17,349 Speaker 2: fluid is basically what keeps your baby sterile and away 230 00:09:17,389 --> 00:09:19,669 Speaker 2: from the outside environment. So if your waters break, we 231 00:09:19,749 --> 00:09:21,789 Speaker 2: need to consider giving you antibiotics and making sure that 232 00:09:21,829 --> 00:09:23,829 Speaker 2: again there's no reason why your waters are broken, because 233 00:09:23,829 --> 00:09:25,829 Speaker 2: you know, there's a high chance in the first forty 234 00:09:25,869 --> 00:09:27,789 Speaker 2: eight hours after your water's broke that your baby's going 235 00:09:27,789 --> 00:09:29,709 Speaker 2: to come, so it's just better if you're concerned to 236 00:09:29,709 --> 00:09:34,669 Speaker 2: have it checked. So I think on our tool kick 237 00:09:34,749 --> 00:09:36,389 Speaker 2: this week is to make sure that you have something 238 00:09:36,429 --> 00:09:38,029 Speaker 2: nice to rub into your belly because you're belly, you're 239 00:09:38,029 --> 00:09:40,749 Speaker 2: starting to definitely grow and your clothes are changing, so 240 00:09:41,029 --> 00:09:43,109 Speaker 2: you know, so you got your biooils or your coconut oil. 241 00:09:43,149 --> 00:09:45,189 Speaker 2: And there's an amazing obstution actually down in Melbourne as 242 00:09:45,189 --> 00:09:47,909 Speaker 2: she's an assie woman, great ob who has made a 243 00:09:47,949 --> 00:09:49,669 Speaker 2: cream herself. Her name is Bromwin Hamilton's. 244 00:09:49,709 --> 00:09:50,309 Speaker 1: You can look her up. 245 00:09:50,349 --> 00:09:53,829 Speaker 2: She makes a beautiful body tummy cream for your belly. 246 00:09:54,029 --> 00:09:58,589 Speaker 1: I have some laboring position toolkits to practice or to 247 00:09:58,669 --> 00:10:01,509 Speaker 1: even just start trying. So I went to a pelvic 248 00:10:01,589 --> 00:10:03,989 Speaker 1: floor physio as I shared a few episodes ago, and 249 00:10:04,749 --> 00:10:07,069 Speaker 1: very much felt like I failed when they said push 250 00:10:07,109 --> 00:10:08,789 Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't get it. I don't 251 00:10:08,869 --> 00:10:12,709 Speaker 1: understand now that I've gotten used to what that feeling is. 252 00:10:13,269 --> 00:10:16,629 Speaker 1: We're trying positions to see what it's going to work 253 00:10:16,629 --> 00:10:19,149 Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, and how much more space I get? 254 00:10:19,869 --> 00:10:22,949 Speaker 1: So laying on my back, she was like, we can 255 00:10:23,069 --> 00:10:25,789 Speaker 1: do better. When I laid on my side with my 256 00:10:25,909 --> 00:10:29,269 Speaker 1: leg up in the air. That's where I've gotten the most. 257 00:10:29,109 --> 00:10:31,549 Speaker 2: Pelfic diametter to let baby out. Yes, the biggest of 258 00:10:31,549 --> 00:10:33,989 Speaker 2: pelbt DA matter. I mean, every position is going to 259 00:10:33,989 --> 00:10:35,989 Speaker 2: be different. It's so interesting that the actual physio can 260 00:10:36,029 --> 00:10:37,749 Speaker 2: have a look at what your body and your. 261 00:10:37,669 --> 00:10:39,589 Speaker 1: Perla starts intimate. Of course it is. 262 00:10:39,789 --> 00:10:41,789 Speaker 2: It's going to be an intimate experience when your baby comes, 263 00:10:41,869 --> 00:10:43,109 Speaker 2: so you get. 264 00:10:42,909 --> 00:10:43,429 Speaker 1: Comfy with that. 265 00:10:44,269 --> 00:10:46,549 Speaker 2: But I think everyone is going to have a plan 266 00:10:46,669 --> 00:10:47,949 Speaker 2: of what they want to do, and you can find 267 00:10:47,949 --> 00:10:50,909 Speaker 2: out what maximizes your birth canal and things like that. 268 00:10:50,949 --> 00:10:52,509 Speaker 2: When it comes down to it, it's very much going 269 00:10:52,549 --> 00:10:54,149 Speaker 2: to depend on what pain relief you have. If you 270 00:10:54,189 --> 00:10:56,989 Speaker 2: have an epidural, you're less mobile. If your baby's in 271 00:10:56,989 --> 00:10:59,469 Speaker 2: a let's say it'll be honest, a posterior position, and 272 00:10:59,469 --> 00:11:01,349 Speaker 2: lots of people going, oh, I had a posterior labor 273 00:11:01,509 --> 00:11:04,509 Speaker 2: that beans basically your baby is stargazing. So we love 274 00:11:04,749 --> 00:11:07,709 Speaker 2: the idea of the spine being babies basically looking down 275 00:11:07,749 --> 00:11:09,669 Speaker 2: towards your anus. Sorry ladies, but that's what we hope. 276 00:11:09,709 --> 00:11:11,829 Speaker 2: We want the baby's head looking down with their spine 277 00:11:11,829 --> 00:11:14,269 Speaker 2: away from yours. When the baby's spine is sitting on 278 00:11:14,309 --> 00:11:16,349 Speaker 2: your spine. It's called an op labor, and it can 279 00:11:16,389 --> 00:11:18,749 Speaker 2: be really uncomfortable and it's very difficult because the baby's 280 00:11:18,749 --> 00:11:21,589 Speaker 2: head's a bigger diameter just purely from the anatomical size 281 00:11:21,589 --> 00:11:23,589 Speaker 2: of the head. And so they're the ones where you 282 00:11:23,589 --> 00:11:25,829 Speaker 2: want to be on all fours, leaning down to try 283 00:11:25,829 --> 00:11:28,109 Speaker 2: and rotate baby's spine around. But that also may be 284 00:11:28,149 --> 00:11:30,069 Speaker 2: a situation where we pop a peanut ball like it's 285 00:11:30,069 --> 00:11:31,549 Speaker 2: like a Swiss ball, you know, the blow up things 286 00:11:31,549 --> 00:11:32,949 Speaker 2: you sit on, but it's a shape like a peanut. 287 00:11:32,949 --> 00:11:34,309 Speaker 2: We stick that between your legs and we get you 288 00:11:34,349 --> 00:11:36,429 Speaker 2: to roll over. So even now you have the best 289 00:11:36,469 --> 00:11:38,509 Speaker 2: intentions of what you think will be best for you. 290 00:11:38,909 --> 00:11:41,269 Speaker 2: If your midwife in labour says, look, we need to 291 00:11:41,269 --> 00:11:43,829 Speaker 2: move you into this position to optimize your baby and 292 00:11:43,869 --> 00:11:46,549 Speaker 2: get them to roll over or move or change their position, 293 00:11:46,989 --> 00:11:49,789 Speaker 2: you just listen. So you might find you're in lots 294 00:11:49,829 --> 00:11:51,669 Speaker 2: of different compromising positions in birth. 295 00:11:51,869 --> 00:11:53,789 Speaker 1: Well, one of the ones that we haven't done but 296 00:11:54,309 --> 00:11:58,109 Speaker 1: planning to isn't all fours to try, that's the best one. Interesting. 297 00:11:58,629 --> 00:12:00,629 Speaker 1: Can I ask what positions you gave birth in? 298 00:12:01,069 --> 00:12:02,549 Speaker 2: Well, I had my first one. I was slide on 299 00:12:02,549 --> 00:12:04,229 Speaker 2: my back, So that's honest, just because I was I 300 00:12:04,229 --> 00:12:05,629 Speaker 2: think it was twenty one, twenty two, and that's what 301 00:12:05,709 --> 00:12:07,509 Speaker 2: I thought was the right thing to do. I've had 302 00:12:07,509 --> 00:12:08,949 Speaker 2: a water birth where I was sitting up on all 303 00:12:08,989 --> 00:12:11,029 Speaker 2: fours the twins I was. Then I had a breach 304 00:12:11,069 --> 00:12:13,909 Speaker 2: extraction for my second twins, so there was definitely an on. 305 00:12:13,829 --> 00:12:14,549 Speaker 1: My back as well. 306 00:12:14,949 --> 00:12:17,269 Speaker 2: I'm comfortable on my back though, so it's an interesting 307 00:12:17,309 --> 00:12:19,629 Speaker 2: thing that it is very traditional. The whole thought of me, 308 00:12:19,669 --> 00:12:21,869 Speaker 2: I felt like I was, you know, the old old 309 00:12:22,509 --> 00:12:25,309 Speaker 2: wives getting you know, getting into a very traditional birth space. 310 00:12:25,469 --> 00:12:27,269 Speaker 2: But for me, it worked and it was really comfortable. 311 00:12:27,309 --> 00:12:28,949 Speaker 2: So I've been on all fours for one of them. 312 00:12:28,989 --> 00:12:31,309 Speaker 2: But I think you'll feel what your body likes. And 313 00:12:31,429 --> 00:12:33,269 Speaker 2: what's going to be really funny is you'll love it 314 00:12:33,269 --> 00:12:34,949 Speaker 2: for thirty minutes and then you'll be like I hate this, 315 00:12:35,189 --> 00:12:36,629 Speaker 2: move me, and then as. 316 00:12:36,549 --> 00:12:38,029 Speaker 1: You get closer to birth, you'll be like, I can't 317 00:12:38,029 --> 00:12:38,549 Speaker 1: move it all. 318 00:12:39,429 --> 00:12:41,789 Speaker 2: It's very it'll be very dependent on how you're feeling 319 00:12:41,829 --> 00:12:42,109 Speaker 2: in that. 320 00:12:42,069 --> 00:12:44,469 Speaker 1: Space, So have some options in your tool kit when 321 00:12:44,469 --> 00:12:46,189 Speaker 1: exactly hate suddenly hate it. 322 00:12:46,389 --> 00:12:48,389 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think just the last little talk kit 323 00:12:48,429 --> 00:12:50,389 Speaker 2: is there's a great website called Spinning Babies. So if 324 00:12:50,389 --> 00:12:52,229 Speaker 2: you actually find your baby's not in a good position 325 00:12:52,269 --> 00:12:54,349 Speaker 2: over the next few weeks, even now, you can start 326 00:12:54,349 --> 00:12:56,509 Speaker 2: actually doing some of these exercises to try, for example, 327 00:12:56,509 --> 00:12:58,349 Speaker 2: if you have a breach baby or a transverse baby, 328 00:12:58,549 --> 00:13:00,069 Speaker 2: to try and get that little one to head down 329 00:13:00,109 --> 00:13:01,149 Speaker 2: the birth canal in the right way. 330 00:13:01,309 --> 00:13:05,909 Speaker 1: Okay, we hope you enjoyed this episode of Hello bumb. 331 00:13:06,029 --> 00:13:08,869 Speaker 1: We have so many episodes of this series filled with 332 00:13:08,909 --> 00:13:12,029 Speaker 1: tips and stories from women and experts who've been through 333 00:13:12,029 --> 00:13:12,749 Speaker 1: it all before. 334 00:13:13,029 --> 00:13:14,829 Speaker 2: You can go back and listen to everything else Hello 335 00:13:14,869 --> 00:13:16,549 Speaker 2: Bump related in this podcast. 336 00:13:16,149 --> 00:13:18,189 Speaker 1: Fee and while you're there, we'd love if you could 337 00:13:18,189 --> 00:13:19,989 Speaker 1: give us a flying star rating and maybe leave us 338 00:13:19,989 --> 00:13:22,429 Speaker 1: a review or even share this episode with a friend. 339 00:13:22,589 --> 00:13:25,749 Speaker 2: This episode was produced by Courtney Ammenhauser with audio production 340 00:13:25,829 --> 00:13:26,509 Speaker 2: by Tom Lyon. 341 00:13:26,589 --> 00:13:28,829 Speaker 1: We'll catch you next time. 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