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Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to you Beauty, the daily podcast for

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Speaker 2: Every week I sit down with celebs and some of

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Speaker 2: publisher and beauty journalist, Eleanor Pendleton. She's the brains behind

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Speaker 1: Hi Vogue. I'm Eleanor Pendleton and I'm going to show

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Speaker 1: founder of Beauty des Nation Gritty Pretty. Now. I am

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Speaker 2: As the founder and editor in chief, Eleanor has established

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Speaker 2: with an impressive resume that includes writing for Cosmopolitan, harp As,

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Speaker 2: Hey, Eleanor, thank you so much for joining us on

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Speaker 1: Lamaire I cream. It's just so good. Again, it is

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Speaker 1: Screen for a really really dewy finish, incredible under makeup.

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Speaker 2: That is such a good list of exfoliants there and

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Speaker 1: SK two facial treatment mask. It's so good.

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Speaker 2: They are so good. I think you can get six

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Speaker 2: they're bougie, but they're so good, full of antioxidants, really

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Speaker 1: I love the Rationale mask. I think it's their number two.

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Speaker 1: It's their gold one. Sometimes when we've sat down at

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Speaker 1: I always feel like my skin's brighter after that. The

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Speaker 2: You can never throw out that packet until it's absolutely clean.

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Speaker 2: Hit you've made one of the greatest discoveries of all time.

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Speaker 1: Or a miss never again never.

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Speaker 2: What is a skincare technique or ingredient that you love

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Speaker 1: I would have to choose between hyaluronic acids and vitamin C.

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Speaker 1: They're two incredible ingredients and they can work beautifully for

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Speaker 1: but it was snail mucus. I don't think it ever

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 1: She has amazing skin too.

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Speaker 2: Eleanor, thank you so much for joining us on the

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Speaker 2: show today and talking all things skincare with us. We

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Speaker 2: can't wait to see what's on the horizon for you

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Speaker 2: for the rest of the year. We've got a good

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, thanks for having me.

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