Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mama Mia acknowledges
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Speaker 1: you have to do it. You live for fashion. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to Nothing to Wear the podcast. It solves
Speaker 1: fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee Campbellon
Speaker 1: every week I chat to an expert who helps us
Speaker 1: get more out of the clothes we already own, and
Speaker 1: today we're doing just that. So have you ever wondered
Speaker 1: or wish that you were fancy and rich enough to
Speaker 1: have clothes that fit you perfectly? Have you ever wondered
Speaker 1: how the celebrities always look so flawless? And have you
Speaker 1: ever wanted to sew Drake into a pair of pants? Well,
Speaker 1: my expert today has done all of that. She knows everything,
Speaker 1: So let me read you this. CV Hailey Burton has
Speaker 1: worked with celebrities. She's styled Pink, Rihanna, Ariana Grande, Drake,
Speaker 1: Justin Bieber, and Taylor Swift. I mean, she's way too
Speaker 1: humble to say all that. That's why I'm here so
Speaker 1: today we're going to talk about what it's like to
Speaker 1: style celebrities of that caliber, what goes on behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: She also does a lot of reality TV styling, but
Speaker 1: more than that, she's a seam stressed in a tailor,
Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about us, the regular people
Speaker 1: that aren't on stage in leotards. And she's got some
Speaker 1: amazing tips and tricks for our existing clothes, little tweaks
Speaker 1: that will make them look a million bucks. She's got
Speaker 1: so many wonderful hacks. So let's get into it. Hayley,
Speaker 1: Welcome to Nothing to Wear. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: I'm very excited to talk about the things they're going
Speaker 1: to discuss because you've got a lot of experience. But first,
Speaker 1: new guests have to answer two questions before they're allowed
Speaker 1: officially to proceed. Can you describe your style in three words?
Speaker 2: I would have to say, today doesn't reflect. I'm normally colorful.
Speaker 2: I always wear a lot of color. Today doesn't reflect.
Speaker 1: That's the color. The many statement.
Speaker 2: I love prince I love bold prince color, and probably
Speaker 2: effortless as well, like something that you can easily throw
Speaker 2: on because I'm always working with people and dressing them yeah,
Speaker 2: I kind of don't put much into myself, so like
Speaker 2: an efforless And is.
Speaker 1: That because you also have to get like down and
Speaker 1: pin and like you're actually moving around a pretty much.
Speaker 2: You need to be able to get down and not flash. Yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: and just something easy and working and you don't have
Speaker 2: to think about what you're actually wearing.
Speaker 1: Yes, you've put it on and you can get to it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: All right, there's a theory that rings pretty true. So
Speaker 1: we've got a wardrobe of clothes. But within that wardrobe
Speaker 1: there's ten percent that we wear the most, that we
Speaker 1: reach for over and over that are just out tried
Speaker 1: and true. What would be in your ten percent?
Speaker 2: I would say sets. I'm very much a sets person.
Speaker 2: Then I don't have to think about actually putting a
Speaker 2: look together. Yeah, because it's pretty much top and a bottom. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're ready to go and you look done as well.
Speaker 2: I'm short, so if I put on a block print
Speaker 2: on the bottom and then I just wear a coup
Speaker 2: plane colored top up the top, I get cut in
Speaker 2: half because I am so short, so it cuts my proportion.
Speaker 2: But if I wear the same thing up and down, yes,
Speaker 2: I don't get cut in half and I look taller
Speaker 2: than what's clever? If I foot one probably five.
Speaker 1: Foot in a bit, no talk to me and centimeters
Speaker 1: send meters one fifty five okay, I'm on sixty three
Speaker 1: that hell, but pretty much if I wear the same
Speaker 1: color the whole way through, all the same print the
Speaker 1: whole way through, I don't feel like I get cut
Speaker 1: in half. And is the set usually pants pants set? Yeah?
Speaker 1: For work, mainly pants set. Yeah. Then depending on what
Speaker 1: I'm doing, I will do a skirt and the top. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I was gonna say, why not a Maxi dress,
Speaker 1: But I guess you can't work as easily as a Maxi.
Speaker 2: But if you get me on holidays and I'm in
Speaker 2: a Maxi dress twenty four to seven.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's your okay on the holidays. As well
Speaker 1: as jumpsuit, I'm a lover of a jumpsuit. My god,
Speaker 1: I'm the lover of the look of a jumpsuit. But
Speaker 1: I wee a lot. Oh okay, yeah, that's not practical. No.
Speaker 1: And you know when you're just sometimes in a bathroom
Speaker 1: and the ones particularly that you have to like fully
Speaker 1: describe and you're like, I'm naked.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, definitely, And I have to tuck my sleeves
Speaker 2: in because otherwise your arms go flapping.
Speaker 1: Around or they drop in the toilets. I've done that.
Speaker 1: That happened to me a few weeks ago. Oh no, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love the look. But I'm like, okay, is it
Speaker 1: a short lunch? How much water do I need? Okay?
Speaker 1: I like that there, that was quite a unique ten percent.
Speaker 1: Most people say jeans. I don't own a pair of
Speaker 1: jeans at all. Okay, we're going to get into that. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: we've put a lot to talk about. Okay, you're a
Speaker 1: very humble person. We were talking before we started recording,
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh no, just this that excuse me.
Speaker 1: You have worked with celebrities like Taylor. I love how
Speaker 1: there's no surnames written here. Taylor, Arianna, Rihanna Drake. You
Speaker 1: recently worked with Katie Perry on the Aussie tour. Yes,
Speaker 1: holy hell, I'm sure there's plenty of NDAs in place.
Speaker 1: And for people that don't know what that is, it's
Speaker 1: a non disclosure agreement. So thereby you sign it and
Speaker 1: then you can never talk about what happens. But can
Speaker 1: you pull the curtain back a bit? What's it like
Speaker 1: working with names like that.
Speaker 2: They are normal people, down to earth. They do expect
Speaker 2: a lot, and there is a lot of waiting around
Speaker 2: for those types of people. Yes, but I think I've
Speaker 2: been doing it for so long now that they're just
Speaker 2: like normal people. There are like you and I just
Speaker 2: got a job to do, just got a job to do.
Speaker 2: I get in there, I do what I've got to do,
Speaker 2: and I out pretty much, or you sit there for
Speaker 2: fifteen hours and sometimes you have to wait for people
Speaker 2: the life waited too am when they finally decided to
Speaker 2: do a fitting or so funny you.
Speaker 1: Say that one of those people on that list. Back
Speaker 1: in my Cosmo days when I was doing beauty, I
Speaker 1: was flown to interview one of those people and then
Speaker 1: they were too busy before the concert, fine waiting around
Speaker 1: after the concert, they don't want to do it. Then
Speaker 1: they flew me to another city and then I ended
Speaker 1: up interviewing them at two in the morning after that concert.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was very glamorous and I had no kids,
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is great, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: experienced that way.
Speaker 2: But even like it was funny. I didn't know who
Speaker 2: Drake was when I worked with him, being naive not
Speaker 2: knowing who celebrities are.
Speaker 1: How long wait? How long ago was this?
Speaker 2: Probably when he was here, not the most recent time
Speaker 2: he was here. I worked with him this time that
Speaker 2: he was here as well, but the previous time probably okay,
Speaker 2: five six years ago.
Speaker 1: Maye okay, And I just was cool. I like that,
Speaker 1: you don't I don't know. I didn't know who he was.
Speaker 1: I don't know who the ych he's fly broke and
Speaker 1: I literally this guy comes out to me goes, hey, love,
Speaker 1: my fly's broken. What can you do?
Speaker 2: So I'm standing there and I'm literally sewing him in,
Speaker 2: had my hands down his pants.
Speaker 1: Oh that sounds very wrong.
Speaker 2: And so I didn't the way it was like, well,
Speaker 2: he goes, what do you put that needle? And then
Speaker 2: literally he left and I was like and they're like,
Speaker 2: you do realize that was Drake?
Speaker 1: And like, oh, okay, No. I came home told all
Speaker 1: my friends that I worked and they're like, what do
Speaker 1: you mean? And oh my god, Yeah that's good because
Speaker 1: if that was me old oh got and probably made
Speaker 1: it and sewed him up for the Yeah, sowed him
Speaker 1: up for that concert. How do you get out of them?
Speaker 1: Did you have to cut him out? No, only as
Speaker 1: we were is one. Look, Oh god, man, have that's
Speaker 1: so easy. Okay. So, as I've said, you've been in
Speaker 1: the industry for years, not saying that you're old. It
Speaker 1: is very experienced. And I hear you're the go to
Speaker 1: on all sorts of TV shows as well. So we've
Speaker 1: got Maths, Love Island, the Voice Idol. How did you
Speaker 1: get into this industry? I kind of fell into it
Speaker 1: because I could sew.
Speaker 2: I was working for a designer and there was a
Speaker 2: stylist that used to come in. This is back in
Speaker 2: the day when stylists used to come in and loan
Speaker 2: product from stores. So going back a bit, internet wasn't
Speaker 2: as big as it is now.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was me in magazines. We had
Speaker 1: to go to store to find it and then take
Speaker 1: it back. Ye worked in the store and we used
Speaker 1: to have styles coming all the time. She came in
Speaker 1: and she was like, can you babysit my child? Like
Speaker 1: this is it's such.
Speaker 2: A random way to get into these jobs. So I
Speaker 2: when the store or store and she goes, oh, can
Speaker 2: you babysit my chid? I've got to go to an
Speaker 2: eventuals the stylist for I think it was Vogue back
Speaker 2: in the day. She came home that night and I was
Speaker 2: sewing on the couch, literally staring, and she's like, can
Speaker 2: you sew? And I'm like yeah, and she said, can
Speaker 2: you come on set tomorrow for a Bonds campaign with
Speaker 2: Sarah Murdock and sow her into a garment. So I
Speaker 2: fell into it by doing something completely different, even though
Speaker 2: I was working for a designer at the stage. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I fell into it because I was at her house
Speaker 2: and she saw that I could sew, and then I
Speaker 2: started assisting her. But the way I fell into TV again,
Speaker 2: they needed the same stress on set, and I went
Speaker 2: in to actually do all the alterations or do some
Speaker 2: custom makes, and then I just worked my way up
Speaker 2: and now I run a lot of the departments for
Speaker 2: the TV shows.
Speaker 1: Okay, fascinating, And so can you tell me is that
Speaker 1: because you know, I guess, particularly reality TV, but even
Speaker 1: celebrities aren't all on size fits all and you get
Speaker 1: it a garment and it might not fit there, or
Speaker 1: that might be too long, or it needs nipping in here.
Speaker 1: And is that often done like the last minute before
Speaker 1: you start shooting?
Speaker 2: The thing is so last minute when it comes to
Speaker 2: like tailoring a garment, So a lot of the time
Speaker 2: you don't fit the artist or the talent until a
Speaker 2: day or if not, on the morning of the actual shoot.
Speaker 2: So sometimes I'd get caught in just to do alterations.
Speaker 2: But now as I do styling and like seem stress,
Speaker 2: I just jump in and I do it myself.
Speaker 1: It's just easier to fix it. Yeah, because it's one process, yes.
Speaker 2: Exactly, And I feel you understand the body more knowing
Speaker 2: that you can tailor the garment to their body because
Speaker 2: everyone's not a perfect size eight, which is not samples are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like I think, because yeah, even if you
Speaker 1: are in it, you could be heavier on the bottom
Speaker 1: or that is, or broad shoulders. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I've worked out as well, like if somebody
Speaker 2: is a size twelve but you want them to fit
Speaker 2: in the size eight, you just put a panel in
Speaker 2: and try and camouflage the garment, like.
Speaker 1: You just Yeah, if you've got one garment, you got
Speaker 1: to make it work. You can make it work. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think outside the box is the way I look
Speaker 1: at you, the way we do things. That is so cool. Okay,
Speaker 1: So as you've kind of just alluded to, you can
Speaker 1: pretty much tailor anything and make a whole look. When
Speaker 1: you're sourcing pieces, what are you looking for? Is it fabrics, cuts,
Speaker 1: styles that can be changed? Like, what can you change? Nothing?
Speaker 2: I would never think outside the box. And that's why
Speaker 2: I've taught my assistants and my team as well. Whenever
Speaker 2: you're shopping. If you see something that you think might
Speaker 2: look good on stage, might look good in a shoot, think.
Speaker 1: Outside the box.
Speaker 2: If you're artists, you're dressing is a size twelve fourteen
Speaker 2: by two size eights. If you can't get the fourteen, yeah,
Speaker 2: we can do something. We can alter it, bring it together.
Speaker 2: We do with performance TV, it's completely different to other
Speaker 2: reality TV.
Speaker 1: Or a regular person getting dressed. Yeah, we always.
Speaker 2: Look for a performance piece. So it always has to
Speaker 2: be something that's going to be a performance piece that
Speaker 2: looks something like a bit different to what you normally wear.
Speaker 1: Or example like sparkles. I just think, yes, Sparkles, but
Speaker 1: as well, like I could do a dnim like what
Speaker 1: you've got on now and we just do a dimonte tremonit,
Speaker 1: or we add add some studs, or you can take
Speaker 1: some cool customs. Customs.
Speaker 2: So we do customize a lot, like on Australian Idol.
Speaker 2: Everything is pretty much customized, I have to say pretty much.
Speaker 2: I would say ninety percent of it. We customize all
Speaker 2: custom make rather than just go because online I feel
Speaker 2: like what's online it's everywhere, Yet it's everywhere, you can't
Speaker 2: get individual pieces and it's nothing unique. So it's always
Speaker 2: about customizing looks to make them a little bit special,
Speaker 2: a little bit elevated.
Speaker 1: So say a listener wanted to either find you, like
Speaker 1: a really amazing tailor or try something at home. What's
Speaker 1: like Dan and I can imagine would be easy to
Speaker 1: add some sparkles, like I wouldn't want to tailor leather
Speaker 1: or unless I mean it's expensive, like.
Speaker 2: It's hard, hard, and the problem with leather is they
Speaker 2: glue the seams down. So leather is hard. But you
Speaker 2: can customize it. Buy some diamondies, buy some studs. Good
Speaker 2: Spotlight has some great pieces, and patch.
Speaker 1: As well, Like I'm so into patches right.
Speaker 2: Now, just even fringing, and you can always you can
Speaker 2: double start it, tape it on. For one where underneath
Speaker 2: a pocket you've got a.
Speaker 1: Pocket flactice if you want it, if you like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so leather would work or even like you buy
Speaker 2: a pair of basic pants and you want to just
Speaker 2: add a stripe down the side.
Speaker 1: Which is very trendient.
Speaker 2: There's that iron on tem tape, like even for one
Speaker 2: where that you can do that for one where iron
Speaker 2: it on, get a piece of ribbon, get a piece
Speaker 2: of trim and put it down the side of a pant.
Speaker 1: I've got that tape because I have to take on
Speaker 1: my pants, as I imagine you would too. Hence sweet
Speaker 1: don't own jeans. But I never even thought of doing
Speaker 1: something like that.
Speaker 2: That's another option. Or you can stitch it down. It's
Speaker 2: just hard to get in there and stitch it. But
Speaker 2: the hem tape saves lives.
Speaker 1: I feel, gosh, I just thought of it as hem tape.
Speaker 1: Like you really do think outside the box, so you
Speaker 1: can do something with everything. It depends, I guess, on
Speaker 1: your skill set or someone that you know. Okay, so
Speaker 1: you're working on a new show or a new artist,
Speaker 1: So how does it work from the start. Is it collaborative?
Speaker 1: Do you pitch looks to them? Do they get to
Speaker 1: tell you what they want? Does it guessing? It depends
Speaker 1: on the level of their status.
Speaker 2: Depends on the talent as well, like for example, maths
Speaker 2: address one of the experts on the panel. She's come
Speaker 2: to me saying she wants to go for more of
Speaker 2: a tailored look this time around. She'd prefer a bit
Speaker 2: of a sleeve, so we work.
Speaker 1: On that regard. I come back.
Speaker 2: Then I present her with a bunch of looks in
Speaker 2: a mood board, and then I go from there, and
Speaker 2: then we do a fitting and I always throw in
Speaker 2: some random pieces that she wouldn't think to wear, which
Speaker 2: is great as well. But then because you've got the
Speaker 2: eye and I guess you don't have the maybe body
Speaker 2: hang ups or whatever, and you just think, just try it.
Speaker 2: And oftentimes when they just try it.
Speaker 1: Just try.
Speaker 2: And that's why I say to everyone, I'm always like,
Speaker 2: if you see something on the shelf, always try it on.
Speaker 1: I always try it on if you're intrigued.
Speaker 2: And then with music artists, like I work with another
Speaker 2: music artist with her, we get a creative depending on
Speaker 2: what she's doing, we get a creative treatment. So I
Speaker 2: try and see what colors are in the creative treatment.
Speaker 2: And then I do a lot of customs for her
Speaker 2: in particular.
Speaker 1: And is that for like performing on stage, forming.
Speaker 2: On stage, But then also she does pieces to camera. Yeah,
Speaker 2: a lot of medium stuff, so depending on what it is.
Speaker 1: A lot of that is style.
Speaker 2: But then the performance pieces, we try and do something
Speaker 2: different and customize pieces or make from scratch.
Speaker 1: It's like you do dress up for adults. Yes, it's fun,
Speaker 1: it's lots of fun. Oh my god, I love it. Okay,
Speaker 1: And so yeah, it's collaborative, but I guess it depends
Speaker 1: on what they're going to be doing. Yes, we always
Speaker 1: think we look completely different when we look at videos
Speaker 1: or photos of ourselves. Welcome to podcasts, now being podcasts
Speaker 1: are there's some industry tips for getting dressed for the camera.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, most listeners are just doing daycare drop
Speaker 1: off or going to the office or maybe going to
Speaker 1: a lunch. But it's true in that Like for me,
Speaker 1: like my hair is short and dark now, and I
Speaker 1: have so many black winter tops, but it just makes
Speaker 1: me look like a bubblehead. If I've got dark hair
Speaker 1: and a black top. I look in photos and go, oh,
Speaker 1: you can only just see my face. Like, do you
Speaker 1: have tips for when you are perhaps making memories, you're
Speaker 1: going to a lunch or a wedding or whatever.
Speaker 2: I do always say color, like I feel color lifts anyone.
Speaker 2: And if you look good, you feel good inside.
Speaker 1: So true. So I always do say color.
Speaker 2: I'm not wearing color today, but normally I am like
Speaker 2: a colorful ball, and I always feel really good. And
Speaker 2: the amount of comments you get when you hear color,
Speaker 2: I feel like I always get whenever I have color on.
Speaker 2: Someone always comments on what I'm wearing, no matter what
Speaker 2: it is. So I feel colors are big.
Speaker 1: It does lift your mood. I'm sure of it. Definitely. Okay,
Speaker 1: So yeah, I particularly if you're taking photos or whatever
Speaker 1: it is, think about that and think about your background
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 2: So what are you sitting in if you're sitting in
Speaker 2: a dark set, Yeah, dark room, when you're doing these
Speaker 2: podcasts or whatever you're doing. Yeah, just think about that color.
Speaker 2: But then if it's very light, then you can wear
Speaker 2: darker tones. Like think of the couch that you're sitting on.
Speaker 2: That's one thing on maths, we always have to see
Speaker 2: the couch that they're sitting on that don't blend into
Speaker 2: the couch and their mobile heads pretty much.
Speaker 1: That's happened to me in the other studio. I mean,
Speaker 1: we've got beautiful couches, but I was wearing like a
Speaker 1: beigey thing and I just looked like the couch with
Speaker 1: the head. Oh okay, that's interesting. Okay, what's the biggest
Speaker 1: backstage styling disaster you've seen and how did you fix it?
Speaker 1: Was it Drakes Fly? I mean that's pretty Yeah, it
Speaker 1: probably would have been that. Yeah, because about to go
Speaker 1: on and the lot of like malfunctions. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was over in the UK with Pink and we're
Speaker 2: doing a rehearsal.
Speaker 1: This wasn't live.
Speaker 2: It was like a rehearsal and we had a new
Speaker 2: leotard on her and it was when she bungee drops
Speaker 2: from the sky and the zipper broke on her leotard
Speaker 2: and it was zipping from it was from the center
Speaker 2: back of just above her bottom to the neck. But
Speaker 2: it just she went bungee jumped down and it just
Speaker 2: turned and they're like cut.
Speaker 1: And we literally went no, she just kind of came forward.
Speaker 1: But the next thing was she was twisting around, so
Speaker 1: she just had to completely she was just bobbling up
Speaker 1: and down. You're literally like engineering a body seat or
Speaker 1: something like. That's the thing.
Speaker 2: And same with her with her mic packs because she
Speaker 2: has to sing and mic packs have to go on
Speaker 2: a certain.
Speaker 1: Spot on a kind of seal and because she does
Speaker 1: the silks as well, so it's working around engineering ful
Speaker 1: artists are doing. Oh my god, we occasionally do filming here.
Speaker 1: I have to have like a mic pack at the
Speaker 1: back end lapel and I thought that was hard. Put
Speaker 1: her on your bra and I'm like, it's pulling my
Speaker 1: bra off.
Speaker 2: And then on idle like they've got two mic packs
Speaker 2: because they've got a lapel mic so they can hear them.
Speaker 2: And then they got the ears for singing, and it's
Speaker 2: like how do we hide them so then they're not
Speaker 2: seen and they look like they've got a big hump
Speaker 2: on the back of end.
Speaker 1: Sometimes when I watch the Kardashians, I'm like, oh, they
Speaker 1: won't want to film the back because it's just like
Speaker 1: this big yeah.
Speaker 2: But then some artists like the mic pack out because
Speaker 2: then it's like it's real reality.
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like it's there. Yeah, so they prefer to
Speaker 1: have it out. Oh my god. Yeah, I bet zippers
Speaker 1: are the bainer. Always zippers. And actually I'm just have
Speaker 1: to ask you. I have a bus sipper. Is it
Speaker 1: true that you can run a pencil along?
Speaker 2: It depends what's is it just not sliding. I don't
Speaker 2: know a lead pencil will make it. It's like a
Speaker 2: dual waxed candle as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't waitit time and do that. Okay. Aside
Speaker 1: from celebrities, which is fascinating, God, I feel like you
Speaker 1: could tell some stories. You also style everyday women, yes,
Speaker 1: which is refreshing because we don't always want to wear
Speaker 1: leotards and sequins, but you do all strapes and sizes.
Speaker 1: So what are some common stylings we all run into
Speaker 1: or that your clients come to you with.
Speaker 2: They want a basic like they want a rotating wardrobe,
Speaker 2: so pretty um, an interchangeable wardrobe that they can wear
Speaker 2: the same pants with different tops, like have ten key pieces,
Speaker 2: ten key looks.
Speaker 1: That they so you're basically helping them find that ten percent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much that they can wear, whether to work,
Speaker 2: whether to a lunch, kids.
Speaker 1: Drop off, or so forth.
Speaker 2: So it's a matter of finding funny your colors as well,
Speaker 2: like finding what colors are good for you, whether your
Speaker 2: warm colors, cool colors, and then interchanging that interclothing, what
Speaker 2: part of the body's most flattering where we isolate the waist.
Speaker 2: It's always good too with proportions of body, you do
Speaker 2: one third two thirds, so never cut yourself in half,
Speaker 2: so always one third at the top.
Speaker 1: So like for example, high wasted pants, that count as
Speaker 1: the two thirds. Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 2: So just don't cut yourself in half because then you
Speaker 2: look like a blob.
Speaker 1: So it's clever no matter what. Yeah, yeah, something we
Speaker 1: learn at college. This is going back. I think I
Speaker 1: do something hi acts, yeah, because I wear a lot
Speaker 1: of highway wasted. But then I might do like a
Speaker 1: when winter, a maxi skit, but with a long knit
Speaker 1: that's almost down there. So that's my two thirds one third.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I try and work on those proportions because
Speaker 2: eye then can go there and you look longer, is
Speaker 2: the way?
Speaker 1: Wow? That Yeah. And when they're trying to, you know,
Speaker 1: help you find their colors, then do you kind of
Speaker 1: try and buy in the same color family so that
Speaker 1: you're not trying to mix like your reds with your
Speaker 1: green with your coal bot.
Speaker 2: So then you find the color family and then you
Speaker 2: work in tones of that. So if it's a red,
Speaker 2: then you go to your pink tones, then you go
Speaker 2: to your orange jones.
Speaker 1: But you stay away from like, yeah, anything that won't match,
Speaker 1: because then you can't. That's my problem. I love too
Speaker 1: many things, but then I can't put it all together.
Speaker 1: So for the everyday person, tailoring exists too. We can
Speaker 1: do things ourselves. We can take them to a tailor.
Speaker 1: What can that do for us? You know, we've got
Speaker 1: a really great pair of affordable jeans. Is it worth
Speaker 1: getting them tailored?
Speaker 2: It is if they're a great gene and they fit you,
Speaker 2: because I find a lot of women have smaller waists
Speaker 2: and bigger hips, so we always go upper size in
Speaker 2: jeans or in pants, so we have to take in
Speaker 2: the waist on the pan. I think it's an investment
Speaker 2: than wearing a belt and having all that excess fabric
Speaker 2: which will make you look thicker through the waist.
Speaker 1: Yes, you're annoying when you do U ease like me
Speaker 1: all the time you got under the belt, so I
Speaker 1: think it's good.
Speaker 2: And then always your hair, like I feel a hem
Speaker 2: on a pant like you see all these girls walking
Speaker 2: around their pants are either on the ground or the
Speaker 2: too shorts, So I feel.
Speaker 1: Because we want them to go with heels and flat Yeah, no, definitely.
Speaker 2: So it's it's like you can do the cropped pant,
Speaker 2: then with the heel, yeah, but I just feel tailoring
Speaker 2: a garment can change your life and change the whole
Speaker 2: way that you actually look.
Speaker 1: And I think also because I've used to be have
Speaker 1: the mentality it's affordable garment. I don't want to pay
Speaker 1: to then get it tailored, but then to get at
Speaker 1: tailored makes it look more expensive, fits me better, I'm
Speaker 1: going to wear it more, so it's actually worth it.
Speaker 1: It's actually worth it. Then having three pairs of affordable
Speaker 1: pants that don't all fit, you know, perfectly.
Speaker 2: Most of way one and then invests them extra money. Yeah,
Speaker 2: garment tailored.
Speaker 1: Okay, so obviously we can't clone you. I wish we could.
Speaker 1: But how do we find a taylor? You know there's
Speaker 1: those ones that's sort of the dry cleaner that does
Speaker 1: a bit of tailoring. How do you know if a
Speaker 1: tailor's good or do you just give it a go?
Speaker 1: You have to give it a go.
Speaker 2: I know that there's all the little tailoring places in
Speaker 2: the Westfield shopping centers.
Speaker 1: They're quite expended. It's fine, I will pay for their expertise.
Speaker 1: But I had to have some pants done next day
Speaker 1: recently and I was like, oh, yeah, it's not cheap,
Speaker 1: but it does take.
Speaker 2: But then if you can find like I've noticed on
Speaker 2: Facebook pages, on the marketplace, the local marketplace, people have gone,
Speaker 2: are there any seamstresses in the area, So you might
Speaker 2: have a mom sitting at home that yused to be
Speaker 2: able to sew.
Speaker 1: My mum had that and on Wednesdays after school we
Speaker 1: would go and drop we were to her house. We'd
Speaker 1: try things on. Yes, so look on marketplace, a marketplace,
Speaker 1: because there's always somebody that can sow very it's a
Speaker 1: dying art I feel now, But there's somebody that's sitting
Speaker 1: at home that's possibly got a baby.
Speaker 2: And they can tailor it. Like just I know where
Speaker 2: my mum lives. I've seen some things on there. Is
Speaker 2: there anyone in the area you've changed it? Like I
Speaker 2: know that the other places are quite expensive. Or there
Speaker 2: is a little dry cleaner that does little hands on
Speaker 2: the side which is not too expensive.
Speaker 1: So I would have a look on marketplace.
Speaker 2: Just put a thing up there saying is there anyone
Speaker 2: in the area that.
Speaker 1: Or like I'm in my local group on face I
Speaker 1: could ask.
Speaker 2: In there because I find too. Another thing is wedding alterations.
Speaker 2: I do a lot of wedding alterations. Because I find
Speaker 2: charge got a lot to do. They do, yeah, I
Speaker 2: do very random, but I find they charge ten percent
Speaker 2: of what the dress cost. I feel dress is fifteen
Speaker 2: thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: You say anything wedding related, I look back. I saw
Speaker 1: a post again on Facebook the other day about the
Speaker 1: cost of getting the dresses dry claned, and I forgot
Speaker 1: I did that part. I then luckily sold it. But
Speaker 1: I outrageous, ridiculous. No, I'm like, how can you charge
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred dollars to get a hem taken up? It's yeah,
Speaker 1: So I also, if you're paying fifteen thousand dollars for dress,
Speaker 1: you'd want to hope it fits like exactly. But a
Speaker 1: lot of these places now outsource their alterations and they
Speaker 1: charge ten percent to what it is.
Speaker 2: So I think it's about shopping around, asking friends where
Speaker 2: they've had things, everyone's having, ask inmates, Yeah, and then
Speaker 2: the marketplace and whats doable? Like obviously we can have
Speaker 2: a pants taken up, but like, say we've got a
Speaker 2: blazer that we really like the look of, Like can
Speaker 2: we like get that tailored? We can get the tailor
Speaker 2: so you can take like just say it's a boxy blazer,
Speaker 2: take in the back seams, which is quite a simple alteration.
Speaker 2: A lot of problems people have. Two is the arms
Speaker 2: are too long, which.
Speaker 1: They always say, it's very hard. But if you lift
Speaker 1: it from the shoulder, don't lift it where all the
Speaker 1: detail is where the beautiful buttons. So the buttons.
Speaker 2: Everyone tries to lift it from down there and then
Speaker 2: you lose your buttons. But if it's a decent blazer
Speaker 2: like still Wittery Zara, you'll be able to lift it
Speaker 2: from the shoulder. Like I know, I've altered some channels
Speaker 2: for one of my client and they leave enough space
Speaker 2: in there to lift it from the shoulder right.
Speaker 1: And when you say enough spaces, their fabric or something.
Speaker 1: There's fabric in there.
Speaker 2: So they leave a seam all oance on the side,
Speaker 2: which is like a four centimeter of seam allouance rather
Speaker 2: than a one point two five semlutce. So you can
Speaker 2: take the shoulder out to bring it up and the lining,
Speaker 2: all the lining all comes up. So that's a much
Speaker 2: cheaper alteration than taking the buttons off, resetting the bucks.
Speaker 2: So I would highly recommend that.
Speaker 1: If there's a blazer that you absolutely love and like,
Speaker 1: maybe you want it more interest at the way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can.
Speaker 2: Definitely take that in through the seams, and you can
Speaker 2: even take it up. It's a much more expensive alteration
Speaker 2: lifting it up if you want it shorter, but if
Speaker 2: you just need a bit of fit in there, because
Speaker 2: to boxing, you take it through the side seams. There's
Speaker 2: normally two darts down the center back that you can
Speaker 2: just take it in, and the smallest little two centimeters
Speaker 2: on each side will really zip it in.
Speaker 1: Okay. I have a friend who's a tailor that I
Speaker 1: go to occasionally, but I don't want to think I
Speaker 1: just go there all the time because she gives me
Speaker 1: a good price. But the other day I had some
Speaker 1: pants done and they were a balloon pant, not a jean,
Speaker 1: but a balloon pant. But I liked how they went
Speaker 1: on me. But of course I have to get everything
Speaker 1: taken up. So she did like something else thinging a
Speaker 1: little tuck on the side. Yeah, it was so good.
Speaker 1: And then she said do you wear them really high
Speaker 1: waisted all down there? And I was like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: And so then she added another extra, just one of
Speaker 1: those little clippy things so I can wear it a
Speaker 1: bit higher or lower. It's great. So you got the
Speaker 1: two I waits to wear it have known that that
Speaker 1: was a thing. Yeah, it's like a little hook yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean and if I wear it a bit whier
Speaker 1: you can see but it's like she used a black
Speaker 1: metal on black pants. You can't even see it pants. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's such a good. So there's it's not just kidding
Speaker 1: what your pant's taken up. Now, there's so much you
Speaker 1: can do. Okay, oh my god, I want you to
Speaker 1: go through my wardrobe. So talking on tailoring and style
Speaker 1: regular women, is there like a tip or something that
Speaker 1: we all seem to get wrong, or a tailoring trick
Speaker 1: or something that we could all benefit from.
Speaker 2: I just think the one that gets everyone is the
Speaker 2: waist on pants and then they fall down and then
Speaker 2: don't sit appropriately.
Speaker 1: God, did you look at my pants when you walk
Speaker 1: to night down? Well they are well yeah, anyway.
Speaker 2: But I just feel that's one thing I just find
Speaker 2: women were hippier I feel, and have bigger bottoms, yes,
Speaker 2: and a small waist waist, and so I think that's
Speaker 2: a major one that people can benefit from, is bring
Speaker 2: in the waist, even if it's just literally two darts
Speaker 2: down the back, it's not like changing, like it's not cinching,
Speaker 2: and it's literally yeah, because you know, also, and then
Speaker 2: I put my phone in my pocket, my work past,
Speaker 2: and then and then my pants off, yes, not off,
Speaker 2: but like off from where I want it to sit exactly.
Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, I've never had a pair of pants that
Speaker 1: fit probably well one also never thought to do that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just think it's like I sometimes I cheat and
Speaker 1: I just do two darts down the back because as well,
Speaker 1: women fluctuate. I feel like we fluctu right away. So
Speaker 1: that's why I think I'm scared to do it, because
Speaker 1: I'm I'm like, well, what if you know I've got
Speaker 1: endo and the week for my period, I just want
Speaker 1: to die. And yeah, yeah, but it's so subtle.
Speaker 2: You can just do two little darts down the back,
Speaker 2: which take probably someone five seconds, so they shouldn't charge
Speaker 2: you a fortune either, and then they can be easily
Speaker 2: unpicked for them to come out.
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm going to Literally I'm gonna see
Speaker 1: if I can do it myself. You probably can.
Speaker 2: It's like you can even just fold it over at
Speaker 2: the top and just catch it at the top like
Speaker 2: two centimeters and that.
Speaker 1: Will be enough. To hold it up.
Speaker 2: And if you've got a long top one like what
Speaker 2: you've got on now, always the center back of it
Speaker 2: and then you can just cut it open.
Speaker 1: You know, you spare time, you should do some YouTube
Speaker 1: to tourist. One more question before bougie and budget life's
Speaker 1: expensive clothes are expensive, do you in your journey, either
Speaker 1: through dressing you know people on idle, on maths or
Speaker 1: your real life customers have any recommendations for looking expensive
Speaker 1: or looking tailored, or just great places that aren't exorbitantly expensive.
Speaker 1: So I don't like to spend a lot of money
Speaker 1: on clothes yourself. For myself cool, this is great and
Speaker 1: because you can tailor, because I can tailor.
Speaker 2: And if I see something, I see how to make
Speaker 2: it and I'm like, I don't think that's.
Speaker 1: Worth the price, because you're like, that's not made. I
Speaker 1: invest in a good piece. Probably every season I invest
Speaker 1: in a good item. But as well, like I feel
Speaker 1: like your Zara is doing great, I wouldn't say a
Speaker 1: great replicas of designer items. Chic is another one that
Speaker 1: people forget about, Like I just stop back into Chic too.
Speaker 2: They do a great tailoring, they do amazing the quality
Speaker 2: is great, and the fit like they make for like,
Speaker 2: they don't make few typical size that girl. They make
Speaker 2: for a girl with hips, make a girl with boobs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm Cuba two now recently the quality is
Speaker 1: good and yeah, quality it's great. It fits my bits.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely those brands. But you don't need to spend
Speaker 2: a fortune to look good like I just like, even
Speaker 2: I've got friends that shop. It came out and I
Speaker 2: looked at them and I'm like, where's came up? Quality
Speaker 2: may not be as good, but they're still doing the styles. Honestly,
Speaker 2: I know for women that like, you can't afford it,
Speaker 2: you've got kids, you've got school FeAs, you've got food,
Speaker 2: and like you say, a lot of expensive brands like
Speaker 2: they might they're like size six to fourteen exactly.
Speaker 1: That's ridiculous. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh my god. That makes
Speaker 1: me feel so good because I thought you I just assumed.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not seeing I'm not.
Speaker 2: If I see a piece, I'll inventt I call an investment.
Speaker 2: I'll invest in a good.
Speaker 1: Piece from it, but you know, assessing it from equality
Speaker 1: and workmanship.
Speaker 2: Yes, and if I can get long Jeopardy out of two,
Speaker 2: if it's not seasonal, because I hate spending money on
Speaker 2: pieces that I'm not.
Speaker 1: Going to be able to wear for a few years.
Speaker 1: I love it. I invest in a piece. It's very expensive.
Speaker 1: How old are these twenty five percent? That brings us
Speaker 1: to bougie and budget because I want you to start
Speaker 1: with your bougie and the story behind it.
Speaker 2: My bougie. I bought a Camilla and Mark trench. It's
Speaker 2: not it's expensive, but it's not. It's expensive for.
Speaker 1: A trench I feel, but it's an investment. It's an investment.
Speaker 1: It's timeless.
Speaker 2: It's a black trench that's classic that they've done for
Speaker 2: I think the last five years, and I've been seeing
Speaker 2: it and I had one from Zara, I had one
Speaker 2: from coz but I just love the Camilla re Mark.
Speaker 2: So I invested in that piece. Okay, it's timeless and
Speaker 2: you have to tailor it. No, I went down to
Speaker 2: size because that was a good tip a bit. I
Speaker 2: can still fit a jump, made sure I could still
Speaker 2: fit Nick down underneath it. But I went down a
Speaker 2: size because I am shorter.
Speaker 1: So they're quite oversized, quite over their eyes. They're generous sizing,
Speaker 1: but then they've got the oversized look. So you can. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I went down to size for that. Well that's it,
Speaker 1: Like that's sort of tailing. Ignore the label and just
Speaker 1: try them on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I just, yeah, I don't look at with
Speaker 2: me when I dress myself, I don't look at the
Speaker 2: sizes on things.
Speaker 1: I wear what fits my body. Yeah, a lot of
Speaker 1: people are driven by the label on the clothing, but
Speaker 1: I think particularly when you're online shopping, but sometimes you know,
Speaker 1: that's why when I can get to the stores, I
Speaker 1: love it. So I'll grab a few bunch of things
Speaker 1: are like oversized, but yeah, I just go, oh, and
Speaker 1: that's kind of a the size is a byproduct, but
Speaker 1: I try. Yeah, it's hard on. Okay, my bougie's kind
Speaker 1: of a tip. So I've got two options. And this
Speaker 1: is for my tall girls because Stacy here at Mamo
Speaker 1: Mia she is amazing and she's tall and she's always saying, Lee,
Speaker 1: help me pants help. Whereas short girls, we have to
Speaker 1: get our pants second up, but at least all the
Speaker 1: pants fit us. So I've brought two styles of this
Speaker 1: jeans and a tip. I bought a Kmart version. It
Speaker 1: is the Kmart cuff hem jean. They're thirty dollars, or
Speaker 1: there's a cause version that's much more expensive. But you
Speaker 1: know how that like wide leg, they're usually quite an
Speaker 1: indigo color and then it's a cuff like cuffed up
Speaker 1: so you can take the hem down. Yes, most of them,
Speaker 1: I mean obviously check before you buy back. Most of
Speaker 1: them are full fold of denim. And I've seen my
Speaker 1: tall friends then just unpick it. Oh that's perfect, and
Speaker 1: then they've got long jeans because oftentimes the long brands
Speaker 1: are really expensive and like we say, you know, we
Speaker 1: might want to get the Kmart one and you uncuff it.
Speaker 1: So I thought I would share that for my tall
Speaker 1: girls that it's kind of a bit of DIY tailoring
Speaker 1: because it'll still be full length but cuffed. But then
Speaker 1: if you well on I guess at an average hype person.
Speaker 1: But then if you just undo it, you've got long pants.
Speaker 1: That's such a great ideas. I thought I should pay
Speaker 1: it back because I'm always wondering about getting things up.
Speaker 1: Take caken up, what's your budget budget? I went for
Speaker 1: a camel trench because I was thought, oh, it's got
Speaker 1: your black teach, it got my black one. But then
Speaker 1: there was a great one at Zara and it was
Speaker 1: on sale. It was like one hundred and nineteen dollars.
Speaker 2: I think it's still online now, but that one I
Speaker 2: had to take the HEM up, so I didn't mind
Speaker 2: because I hadn't invested so much money in it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was quite happy to take the HEM up because
Speaker 2: it did come to the ground. So people that aren't
Speaker 2: super tall can even hem coats like I never thought
Speaker 2: of can definitely, and you can, like you can do
Speaker 2: it properly, like you can get a proper tailor to
Speaker 2: do it. But then if it's you can just churn
Speaker 2: it up and literally slip stitch it the whole way. Okay,
Speaker 2: like nobody sees the inside of the garden soon. If
Speaker 2: you can do a basic stitch, you can sew a
Speaker 2: button on, you can do a basic m just flip it.
Speaker 1: Everyone can learn to do a base. Everyone can do
Speaker 1: a basic stitch. So I did it properly, but I
Speaker 1: have in that past, you've done a quick version. So
Speaker 1: he took up a trench. That's also clever. All right.
Speaker 1: My budget again is kind of a bit general, but
Speaker 1: it's something that I did the other day which I loved.
Speaker 1: I have a bunch of boxy blazers and I mean,
Speaker 1: I have a bunch of everything. But then I'm really
Speaker 1: into my barrel eggs at the moment. And then I
Speaker 1: put on a boxy blazer and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is a bit much too much. I was overwhelmed
Speaker 1: by too much fabric. I grabbed one of my husband's tie,
Speaker 1: so it was a navy blazer. I grabbed my one
Speaker 1: of my husband's ties. Sorry, honey, you're probably still looking
Speaker 1: for it. And I kind of did a cool tie
Speaker 1: thing and cinched it in. That's such a great It
Speaker 1: looked so cool. So now I've taken his burgundy. He's black.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a beige tie. I guess page is
Speaker 1: not that popular, but go to a thrift store and
Speaker 1: buy men's ties if you want to sinch something in.
Speaker 1: I mean, I could have used a regular, I guess,
Speaker 1: leather belt. But also I just wanted it to I
Speaker 1: wanted to stop it exactly where I wanted to stop,
Speaker 1: and I wanted it to not make too much statements.
Speaker 1: So because it was a yeah, it kind of just
Speaker 1: didn't really you couldn't see it much, but it gave
Speaker 1: me a good cinch. Oh, that's such a good idea,
Speaker 1: And that's going to pop a color if you've got Yeah,
Speaker 1: well I was thinking, well, I mean I'm scared of color.
Speaker 1: But if I could do a cool contrast, like I
Speaker 1: was thinking, I could do the navy tie with a
Speaker 1: black blazer. Yeah, that would be great, risky and it's
Speaker 1: a nice You've got the fin edge and then you've
Speaker 1: got the white. Yes, and he had a few of
Speaker 1: the needed ones. And obviously fashion at the moment, a
Speaker 1: lot of women are wearing ties, but that's another way
Speaker 1: to wear it. It's just kind of sinch something in,
Speaker 1: especially if it's a blazer or something that's a bit
Speaker 1: too oversized with the proportions. Do you like my tailoring?
Speaker 1: I like that idea. Thank you my hihiring without Yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely next time you need to do dregs. If I'm there,
Speaker 1: you're phenomenal. Congratulations on all your success and all your skills.
Speaker 1: Like if I were you, I'd be like a I
Speaker 1: sucked in everyone. It's going to take everyone's jobs, but
Speaker 1: they can't take your flower. They can't take man. Thank
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