WEBVTT - Celebrity Styling Secrets: Your Tailoring Masterclass 0:00:10.705 --> 0:00:15.265 You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mama Mia acknowledges 0:00:15.305 --> 0:00:18.345 the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast 0:00:18.465 --> 0:00:22.945 is recorded on. Whoever said orange is a new pink 0:00:23.065 --> 0:00:27.585 was seriously disturbed. Laurels was spraying groundbreaking, Oh my god, 0:00:27.785 --> 0:00:31.825 you have to do it. You live for fashion. Hello, 0:00:31.945 --> 0:00:34.425 and welcome to Nothing to Wear the podcast. It solves 0:00:34.425 --> 0:00:38.065 fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee Campbellon 0:00:38.145 --> 0:00:40.665 every week I chat to an expert who helps us 0:00:40.705 --> 0:00:43.145 get more out of the clothes we already own, and 0:00:43.265 --> 0:00:47.145 today we're doing just that. So have you ever wondered 0:00:47.425 --> 0:00:49.545 or wish that you were fancy and rich enough to 0:00:49.625 --> 0:00:53.065 have clothes that fit you perfectly? Have you ever wondered 0:00:53.105 --> 0:00:55.985 how the celebrities always look so flawless? And have you 0:00:56.065 --> 0:01:00.305 ever wanted to sew Drake into a pair of pants? Well, 0:01:00.385 --> 0:01:03.625 my expert today has done all of that. She knows everything, 0:01:03.665 --> 0:01:06.665 So let me read you this. CV Hailey Burton has 0:01:06.745 --> 0:01:12.105 worked with celebrities. She's styled Pink, Rihanna, Ariana Grande, Drake, 0:01:12.705 --> 0:01:15.785 Justin Bieber, and Taylor Swift. I mean, she's way too 0:01:15.905 --> 0:01:17.905 humble to say all that. That's why I'm here so 0:01:17.945 --> 0:01:19.625 today we're going to talk about what it's like to 0:01:19.705 --> 0:01:22.465 style celebrities of that caliber, what goes on behind the scenes. 0:01:22.665 --> 0:01:25.905 She also does a lot of reality TV styling, but 0:01:26.105 --> 0:01:28.465 more than that, she's a seam stressed in a tailor, 0:01:28.545 --> 0:01:30.545 and we're going to talk about us, the regular people 0:01:30.545 --> 0:01:33.025 that aren't on stage in leotards. And she's got some 0:01:33.105 --> 0:01:36.825 amazing tips and tricks for our existing clothes, little tweaks 0:01:36.865 --> 0:01:39.345 that will make them look a million bucks. She's got 0:01:39.345 --> 0:01:42.505 so many wonderful hacks. So let's get into it. Hayley, 0:01:42.785 --> 0:01:45.265 Welcome to Nothing to Wear. Thank you for having me. 0:01:45.385 --> 0:01:47.745 I'm very excited to talk about the things they're going 0:01:47.825 --> 0:01:49.905 to discuss because you've got a lot of experience. But first, 0:01:50.065 --> 0:01:53.745 new guests have to answer two questions before they're allowed 0:01:53.865 --> 0:01:58.345 officially to proceed. Can you describe your style in three words? 0:01:58.625 --> 0:02:01.425 I would have to say, today doesn't reflect. I'm normally colorful. 0:02:01.585 --> 0:02:03.545 I always wear a lot of color. Today doesn't reflect. 0:02:03.665 --> 0:02:05.265 That's the color. The many statement. 0:02:05.505 --> 0:02:08.665 I love prince I love bold prince color, and probably 0:02:08.705 --> 0:02:11.345 effortless as well, like something that you can easily throw 0:02:11.385 --> 0:02:13.945 on because I'm always working with people and dressing them yeah, 0:02:13.985 --> 0:02:16.265 I kind of don't put much into myself, so like 0:02:16.305 --> 0:02:17.465 an efforless And is. 0:02:17.385 --> 0:02:18.985 That because you also have to get like down and 0:02:19.025 --> 0:02:22.105 pin and like you're actually moving around a pretty much. 0:02:21.945 --> 0:02:26.105 You need to be able to get down and not flash. Yes, yeah, yeah, 0:02:26.105 --> 0:02:27.945 and just something easy and working and you don't have 0:02:27.985 --> 0:02:29.225 to think about what you're actually wearing. 0:02:29.345 --> 0:02:31.305 Yes, you've put it on and you can get to it. Yeah. 0:02:31.345 --> 0:02:33.945 All right, there's a theory that rings pretty true. So 0:02:33.945 --> 0:02:36.625 we've got a wardrobe of clothes. But within that wardrobe 0:02:36.705 --> 0:02:39.345 there's ten percent that we wear the most, that we 0:02:39.385 --> 0:02:42.305 reach for over and over that are just out tried 0:02:42.345 --> 0:02:44.225 and true. What would be in your ten percent? 0:02:44.545 --> 0:02:47.465 I would say sets. I'm very much a sets person. 0:02:47.705 --> 0:02:50.265 Then I don't have to think about actually putting a 0:02:50.305 --> 0:02:53.185 look together. Yeah, because it's pretty much top and a bottom. Yeah, 0:02:53.185 --> 0:02:54.985 you're ready to go and you look done as well. 0:02:55.105 --> 0:02:57.665 I'm short, so if I put on a block print 0:02:57.705 --> 0:02:59.225 on the bottom and then I just wear a coup 0:02:59.225 --> 0:03:00.825 plane colored top up the top, I get cut in 0:03:00.865 --> 0:03:03.745 half because I am so short, so it cuts my proportion. 0:03:03.825 --> 0:03:05.945 But if I wear the same thing up and down, yes, 0:03:06.105 --> 0:03:07.665 I don't get cut in half and I look taller 0:03:07.705 --> 0:03:11.465 than what's clever? If I foot one probably five. 0:03:10.985 --> 0:03:12.905 Foot in a bit, no talk to me and centimeters 0:03:12.985 --> 0:03:15.785 send meters one fifty five okay, I'm on sixty three 0:03:15.825 --> 0:03:18.705 that hell, but pretty much if I wear the same 0:03:18.745 --> 0:03:20.105 color the whole way through, all the same print the 0:03:20.105 --> 0:03:21.905 whole way through, I don't feel like I get cut 0:03:21.985 --> 0:03:25.425 in half. And is the set usually pants pants set? Yeah? 0:03:25.585 --> 0:03:28.225 For work, mainly pants set. Yeah. Then depending on what 0:03:28.265 --> 0:03:30.265 I'm doing, I will do a skirt and the top. Yeah, 0:03:30.265 --> 0:03:32.185 because I was gonna say, why not a Maxi dress, 0:03:32.225 --> 0:03:34.225 But I guess you can't work as easily as a Maxi. 0:03:34.305 --> 0:03:35.825 But if you get me on holidays and I'm in 0:03:35.825 --> 0:03:37.585 a Maxi dress twenty four to seven. 0:03:37.345 --> 0:03:40.905 Okay, so that's your okay on the holidays. As well 0:03:40.945 --> 0:03:44.065 as jumpsuit, I'm a lover of a jumpsuit. My god, 0:03:44.145 --> 0:03:46.025 I'm the lover of the look of a jumpsuit. But 0:03:46.225 --> 0:03:49.305 I wee a lot. Oh okay, yeah, that's not practical. No. 0:03:49.745 --> 0:03:51.625 And you know when you're just sometimes in a bathroom 0:03:51.625 --> 0:03:53.785 and the ones particularly that you have to like fully 0:03:53.825 --> 0:03:55.065 describe and you're like, I'm naked. 0:03:55.145 --> 0:03:57.025 Yeah, no, definitely, And I have to tuck my sleeves 0:03:57.025 --> 0:03:59.305 in because otherwise your arms go flapping. 0:03:58.985 --> 0:04:01.465 Around or they drop in the toilets. I've done that. 0:04:01.465 --> 0:04:04.505 That happened to me a few weeks ago. Oh no, Yeah, 0:04:04.585 --> 0:04:06.545 I love the look. But I'm like, okay, is it 0:04:06.585 --> 0:04:09.505 a short lunch? How much water do I need? Okay? 0:04:09.705 --> 0:04:11.985 I like that there, that was quite a unique ten percent. 0:04:12.025 --> 0:04:14.345 Most people say jeans. I don't own a pair of 0:04:14.425 --> 0:04:17.425 jeans at all. Okay, we're going to get into that. Yeah, okay, 0:04:17.945 --> 0:04:19.505 we've put a lot to talk about. Okay, you're a 0:04:19.625 --> 0:04:22.105 very humble person. We were talking before we started recording, 0:04:22.105 --> 0:04:24.065 and you're like, oh no, just this that excuse me. 0:04:24.985 --> 0:04:28.305 You have worked with celebrities like Taylor. I love how 0:04:28.305 --> 0:04:32.945 there's no surnames written here. Taylor, Arianna, Rihanna Drake. You 0:04:33.065 --> 0:04:36.465 recently worked with Katie Perry on the Aussie tour. Yes, 0:04:37.305 --> 0:04:40.905 holy hell, I'm sure there's plenty of NDAs in place. 0:04:40.905 --> 0:04:42.545 And for people that don't know what that is, it's 0:04:42.585 --> 0:04:45.145 a non disclosure agreement. So thereby you sign it and 0:04:45.185 --> 0:04:47.825 then you can never talk about what happens. But can 0:04:47.825 --> 0:04:49.745 you pull the curtain back a bit? What's it like 0:04:49.905 --> 0:04:52.265 working with names like that. 0:04:52.305 --> 0:04:55.545 They are normal people, down to earth. They do expect 0:04:55.625 --> 0:04:58.225 a lot, and there is a lot of waiting around 0:04:58.305 --> 0:05:00.745 for those types of people. Yes, but I think I've 0:05:00.745 --> 0:05:03.225 been doing it for so long now that they're just 0:05:03.305 --> 0:05:05.945 like normal people. There are like you and I just 0:05:05.985 --> 0:05:07.545 got a job to do, just got a job to do. 0:05:07.625 --> 0:05:08.945 I get in there, I do what I've got to do, 0:05:09.145 --> 0:05:11.745 and I out pretty much, or you sit there for 0:05:11.785 --> 0:05:14.425 fifteen hours and sometimes you have to wait for people 0:05:14.825 --> 0:05:18.185 the life waited too am when they finally decided to 0:05:18.185 --> 0:05:20.105 do a fitting or so funny you. 0:05:20.025 --> 0:05:22.465 Say that one of those people on that list. Back 0:05:22.465 --> 0:05:25.305 in my Cosmo days when I was doing beauty, I 0:05:25.385 --> 0:05:27.785 was flown to interview one of those people and then 0:05:27.825 --> 0:05:30.945 they were too busy before the concert, fine waiting around 0:05:31.025 --> 0:05:32.665 after the concert, they don't want to do it. Then 0:05:32.705 --> 0:05:34.625 they flew me to another city and then I ended 0:05:34.665 --> 0:05:36.865 up interviewing them at two in the morning after that concert. 0:05:36.945 --> 0:05:38.665 I mean, it was very glamorous and I had no kids, 0:05:38.665 --> 0:05:40.785 and I was like, this is great, but yeah, I 0:05:40.865 --> 0:05:42.785 experienced that way. 0:05:42.345 --> 0:05:43.745 But even like it was funny. I didn't know who 0:05:43.825 --> 0:05:46.425 Drake was when I worked with him, being naive not 0:05:46.465 --> 0:05:47.465 knowing who celebrities are. 0:05:47.505 --> 0:05:49.465 How long wait? How long ago was this? 0:05:49.625 --> 0:05:51.745 Probably when he was here, not the most recent time 0:05:51.785 --> 0:05:53.025 he was here. I worked with him this time that 0:05:53.065 --> 0:05:55.225 he was here as well, but the previous time probably okay, 0:05:55.265 --> 0:05:57.185 five six years ago. 0:05:57.145 --> 0:05:59.905 Maye okay, And I just was cool. I like that, 0:05:59.945 --> 0:06:02.065 you don't I don't know. I didn't know who he was. 0:06:02.105 --> 0:06:04.705 I don't know who the ych he's fly broke and 0:06:04.745 --> 0:06:07.625 I literally this guy comes out to me goes, hey, love, 0:06:07.825 --> 0:06:09.345 my fly's broken. What can you do? 0:06:09.385 --> 0:06:11.825 So I'm standing there and I'm literally sewing him in, 0:06:12.185 --> 0:06:14.745 had my hands down his pants. 0:06:14.945 --> 0:06:16.265 Oh that sounds very wrong. 0:06:16.385 --> 0:06:20.585 And so I didn't the way it was like, well, 0:06:20.625 --> 0:06:22.705 he goes, what do you put that needle? And then 0:06:23.145 --> 0:06:24.905 literally he left and I was like and they're like, 0:06:24.985 --> 0:06:25.985 you do realize that was Drake? 0:06:25.985 --> 0:06:28.185 And like, oh, okay, No. I came home told all 0:06:28.185 --> 0:06:29.985 my friends that I worked and they're like, what do 0:06:30.025 --> 0:06:31.865 you mean? And oh my god, Yeah that's good because 0:06:31.865 --> 0:06:34.065 if that was me old oh got and probably made 0:06:34.105 --> 0:06:35.905 it and sewed him up for the Yeah, sowed him 0:06:35.945 --> 0:06:37.585 up for that concert. How do you get out of them? 0:06:37.585 --> 0:06:39.825 Did you have to cut him out? No, only as 0:06:39.825 --> 0:06:42.025 we were is one. Look, Oh god, man, have that's 0:06:42.065 --> 0:06:44.465 so easy. Okay. So, as I've said, you've been in 0:06:44.545 --> 0:06:46.225 the industry for years, not saying that you're old. It 0:06:46.345 --> 0:06:49.185 is very experienced. And I hear you're the go to 0:06:49.345 --> 0:06:51.585 on all sorts of TV shows as well. So we've 0:06:51.625 --> 0:06:55.865 got Maths, Love Island, the Voice Idol. How did you 0:06:55.905 --> 0:06:58.185 get into this industry? I kind of fell into it 0:06:58.185 --> 0:06:58.985 because I could sew. 0:06:59.865 --> 0:07:02.585 I was working for a designer and there was a 0:07:02.625 --> 0:07:04.265 stylist that used to come in. This is back in 0:07:04.305 --> 0:07:05.905 the day when stylists used to come in and loan 0:07:05.985 --> 0:07:08.825 product from stores. So going back a bit, internet wasn't 0:07:08.825 --> 0:07:09.625 as big as it is now. 0:07:09.665 --> 0:07:11.465 Oh my god, that was me in magazines. We had 0:07:11.465 --> 0:07:13.665 to go to store to find it and then take 0:07:13.705 --> 0:07:15.185 it back. Ye worked in the store and we used 0:07:15.185 --> 0:07:17.665 to have styles coming all the time. She came in 0:07:17.825 --> 0:07:20.825 and she was like, can you babysit my child? Like 0:07:20.865 --> 0:07:21.785 this is it's such. 0:07:21.585 --> 0:07:23.585 A random way to get into these jobs. So I 0:07:23.625 --> 0:07:26.585 when the store or store and she goes, oh, can 0:07:26.625 --> 0:07:27.785 you babysit my chid? I've got to go to an 0:07:27.785 --> 0:07:29.745 eventuals the stylist for I think it was Vogue back 0:07:29.785 --> 0:07:31.345 in the day. She came home that night and I was 0:07:31.385 --> 0:07:33.665 sewing on the couch, literally staring, and she's like, can 0:07:33.705 --> 0:07:35.905 you sew? And I'm like yeah, and she said, can 0:07:35.905 --> 0:07:38.065 you come on set tomorrow for a Bonds campaign with 0:07:38.105 --> 0:07:40.145 Sarah Murdock and sow her into a garment. So I 0:07:40.225 --> 0:07:43.665 fell into it by doing something completely different, even though 0:07:43.665 --> 0:07:45.745 I was working for a designer at the stage. Yeah, 0:07:45.785 --> 0:07:48.105 I fell into it because I was at her house 0:07:48.145 --> 0:07:49.545 and she saw that I could sew, and then I 0:07:49.585 --> 0:07:52.785 started assisting her. But the way I fell into TV again, 0:07:52.905 --> 0:07:55.185 they needed the same stress on set, and I went 0:07:55.225 --> 0:07:57.305 in to actually do all the alterations or do some 0:07:57.305 --> 0:07:59.705 custom makes, and then I just worked my way up 0:07:59.745 --> 0:08:01.825 and now I run a lot of the departments for 0:08:01.865 --> 0:08:02.625 the TV shows. 0:08:02.705 --> 0:08:04.865 Okay, fascinating, And so can you tell me is that 0:08:04.905 --> 0:08:08.105 because you know, I guess, particularly reality TV, but even 0:08:08.305 --> 0:08:11.625 celebrities aren't all on size fits all and you get 0:08:11.625 --> 0:08:13.585 it a garment and it might not fit there, or 0:08:13.625 --> 0:08:15.785 that might be too long, or it needs nipping in here. 0:08:15.985 --> 0:08:17.825 And is that often done like the last minute before 0:08:17.865 --> 0:08:18.505 you start shooting? 0:08:18.505 --> 0:08:20.785 The thing is so last minute when it comes to 0:08:21.545 --> 0:08:23.825 like tailoring a garment, So a lot of the time 0:08:23.865 --> 0:08:26.705 you don't fit the artist or the talent until a 0:08:26.825 --> 0:08:29.345 day or if not, on the morning of the actual shoot. 0:08:29.745 --> 0:08:31.865 So sometimes I'd get caught in just to do alterations. 0:08:31.905 --> 0:08:35.425 But now as I do styling and like seem stress, 0:08:35.465 --> 0:08:36.545 I just jump in and I do it myself. 0:08:36.585 --> 0:08:39.945 It's just easier to fix it. Yeah, because it's one process, yes. 0:08:39.705 --> 0:08:43.065 Exactly, And I feel you understand the body more knowing 0:08:43.105 --> 0:08:45.705 that you can tailor the garment to their body because 0:08:45.865 --> 0:08:48.185 everyone's not a perfect size eight, which is not samples are. 0:08:48.385 --> 0:08:50.585 Yeah, and like I think, because yeah, even if you 0:08:50.625 --> 0:08:52.345 are in it, you could be heavier on the bottom 0:08:52.425 --> 0:08:54.465 or that is, or broad shoulders. Yeah. 0:08:54.545 --> 0:08:57.345 Yeah, so I've worked out as well, like if somebody 0:08:57.425 --> 0:08:58.745 is a size twelve but you want them to fit 0:08:58.785 --> 0:09:00.385 in the size eight, you just put a panel in 0:09:00.825 --> 0:09:03.385 and try and camouflage the garment, like. 0:09:03.305 --> 0:09:05.105 You just Yeah, if you've got one garment, you got 0:09:05.105 --> 0:09:06.785 to make it work. You can make it work. Yeah. 0:09:06.985 --> 0:09:08.585 I think outside the box is the way I look 0:09:08.585 --> 0:09:11.945 at you, the way we do things. That is so cool. Okay, 0:09:12.425 --> 0:09:15.265 So as you've kind of just alluded to, you can 0:09:15.265 --> 0:09:18.305 pretty much tailor anything and make a whole look. When 0:09:18.345 --> 0:09:22.145 you're sourcing pieces, what are you looking for? Is it fabrics, cuts, 0:09:22.185 --> 0:09:27.825 styles that can be changed? Like, what can you change? Nothing? 0:09:28.065 --> 0:09:29.785 I would never think outside the box. And that's why 0:09:29.785 --> 0:09:32.465 I've taught my assistants and my team as well. Whenever 0:09:32.545 --> 0:09:34.865 you're shopping. If you see something that you think might 0:09:34.905 --> 0:09:37.385 look good on stage, might look good in a shoot, think. 0:09:37.265 --> 0:09:37.905 Outside the box. 0:09:37.945 --> 0:09:40.705 If you're artists, you're dressing is a size twelve fourteen 0:09:40.745 --> 0:09:42.745 by two size eights. If you can't get the fourteen, yeah, 0:09:42.785 --> 0:09:44.665 we can do something. We can alter it, bring it together. 0:09:44.945 --> 0:09:48.465 We do with performance TV, it's completely different to other 0:09:48.505 --> 0:09:49.545 reality TV. 0:09:49.785 --> 0:09:53.025 Or a regular person getting dressed. Yeah, we always. 0:09:52.745 --> 0:09:54.505 Look for a performance piece. So it always has to 0:09:54.505 --> 0:09:56.145 be something that's going to be a performance piece that 0:09:56.145 --> 0:09:59.225 looks something like a bit different to what you normally wear. 0:09:59.465 --> 0:10:03.105 Or example like sparkles. I just think, yes, Sparkles, but 0:10:03.145 --> 0:10:04.785 as well, like I could do a dnim like what 0:10:04.825 --> 0:10:07.265 you've got on now and we just do a dimonte tremonit, 0:10:07.385 --> 0:10:10.105 or we add add some studs, or you can take 0:10:10.145 --> 0:10:11.745 some cool customs. Customs. 0:10:11.745 --> 0:10:14.385 So we do customize a lot, like on Australian Idol. 0:10:14.625 --> 0:10:18.185 Everything is pretty much customized, I have to say pretty much. 0:10:18.225 --> 0:10:20.425 I would say ninety percent of it. We customize all 0:10:20.465 --> 0:10:25.225 custom make rather than just go because online I feel 0:10:25.225 --> 0:10:29.065 like what's online it's everywhere, Yet it's everywhere, you can't 0:10:29.065 --> 0:10:31.825 get individual pieces and it's nothing unique. So it's always 0:10:31.865 --> 0:10:34.585 about customizing looks to make them a little bit special, 0:10:34.585 --> 0:10:35.505 a little bit elevated. 0:10:44.265 --> 0:10:47.025 So say a listener wanted to either find you, like 0:10:47.065 --> 0:10:51.465 a really amazing tailor or try something at home. What's 0:10:51.545 --> 0:10:53.225 like Dan and I can imagine would be easy to 0:10:53.225 --> 0:10:55.825 add some sparkles, like I wouldn't want to tailor leather 0:10:56.025 --> 0:10:58.225 or unless I mean it's expensive, like. 0:10:58.225 --> 0:11:01.065 It's hard, hard, and the problem with leather is they 0:11:01.065 --> 0:11:03.105 glue the seams down. So leather is hard. But you 0:11:03.145 --> 0:11:06.665 can customize it. Buy some diamondies, buy some studs. Good 0:11:06.905 --> 0:11:09.985 Spotlight has some great pieces, and patch. 0:11:09.865 --> 0:11:11.745 As well, Like I'm so into patches right. 0:11:11.665 --> 0:11:14.065 Now, just even fringing, and you can always you can 0:11:14.105 --> 0:11:16.105 double start it, tape it on. For one where underneath 0:11:16.105 --> 0:11:16.905 a pocket you've got a. 0:11:16.865 --> 0:11:19.145 Pocket flactice if you want it, if you like it. 0:11:19.265 --> 0:11:22.425 Yeah, so leather would work or even like you buy 0:11:22.505 --> 0:11:24.185 a pair of basic pants and you want to just 0:11:24.185 --> 0:11:26.025 add a stripe down the side. 0:11:25.785 --> 0:11:26.665 Which is very trendient. 0:11:26.825 --> 0:11:29.945 There's that iron on tem tape, like even for one 0:11:29.985 --> 0:11:31.465 where that you can do that for one where iron 0:11:31.505 --> 0:11:32.985 it on, get a piece of ribbon, get a piece 0:11:33.025 --> 0:11:34.665 of trim and put it down the side of a pant. 0:11:34.945 --> 0:11:36.745 I've got that tape because I have to take on 0:11:36.825 --> 0:11:38.785 my pants, as I imagine you would too. Hence sweet 0:11:38.785 --> 0:11:41.105 don't own jeans. But I never even thought of doing 0:11:41.145 --> 0:11:41.825 something like that. 0:11:41.825 --> 0:11:43.985 That's another option. Or you can stitch it down. It's 0:11:44.025 --> 0:11:46.265 just hard to get in there and stitch it. But 0:11:46.305 --> 0:11:48.305 the hem tape saves lives. 0:11:48.505 --> 0:11:51.065 I feel, gosh, I just thought of it as hem tape. 0:11:51.105 --> 0:11:53.705 Like you really do think outside the box, so you 0:11:53.745 --> 0:11:55.985 can do something with everything. It depends, I guess, on 0:11:56.185 --> 0:12:00.945 your skill set or someone that you know. Okay, so 0:12:01.225 --> 0:12:03.145 you're working on a new show or a new artist, 0:12:03.145 --> 0:12:05.825 So how does it work from the start. Is it collaborative? 0:12:05.985 --> 0:12:08.185 Do you pitch looks to them? Do they get to 0:12:08.225 --> 0:12:10.505 tell you what they want? Does it guessing? It depends 0:12:10.505 --> 0:12:11.985 on the level of their status. 0:12:12.025 --> 0:12:15.665 Depends on the talent as well, like for example, maths 0:12:15.705 --> 0:12:18.025 address one of the experts on the panel. She's come 0:12:18.065 --> 0:12:19.225 to me saying she wants to go for more of 0:12:19.265 --> 0:12:21.785 a tailored look this time around. She'd prefer a bit 0:12:21.825 --> 0:12:23.825 of a sleeve, so we work. 0:12:23.625 --> 0:12:24.865 On that regard. I come back. 0:12:24.945 --> 0:12:27.745 Then I present her with a bunch of looks in 0:12:27.785 --> 0:12:29.305 a mood board, and then I go from there, and 0:12:29.305 --> 0:12:30.625 then we do a fitting and I always throw in 0:12:30.665 --> 0:12:34.305 some random pieces that she wouldn't think to wear, which 0:12:34.345 --> 0:12:36.465 is great as well. But then because you've got the 0:12:36.545 --> 0:12:38.865 eye and I guess you don't have the maybe body 0:12:38.865 --> 0:12:40.945 hang ups or whatever, and you just think, just try it. 0:12:40.985 --> 0:12:42.345 And oftentimes when they just try it. 0:12:42.545 --> 0:12:42.865 Just try. 0:12:43.265 --> 0:12:44.625 And that's why I say to everyone, I'm always like, 0:12:44.665 --> 0:12:46.745 if you see something on the shelf, always try it on. 0:12:47.145 --> 0:12:49.065 I always try it on if you're intrigued. 0:12:49.145 --> 0:12:50.945 And then with music artists, like I work with another 0:12:51.025 --> 0:12:54.145 music artist with her, we get a creative depending on 0:12:54.185 --> 0:12:56.385 what she's doing, we get a creative treatment. So I 0:12:56.425 --> 0:12:58.505 try and see what colors are in the creative treatment. 0:12:58.625 --> 0:13:00.265 And then I do a lot of customs for her 0:13:00.265 --> 0:13:01.265 in particular. 0:13:01.145 --> 0:13:03.545 And is that for like performing on stage, forming. 0:13:03.265 --> 0:13:05.865 On stage, But then also she does pieces to camera. Yeah, 0:13:05.945 --> 0:13:08.985 a lot of medium stuff, so depending on what it is. 0:13:09.025 --> 0:13:09.985 A lot of that is style. 0:13:10.145 --> 0:13:12.385 But then the performance pieces, we try and do something 0:13:12.385 --> 0:13:15.585 different and customize pieces or make from scratch. 0:13:15.705 --> 0:13:18.505 It's like you do dress up for adults. Yes, it's fun, 0:13:18.545 --> 0:13:20.305 it's lots of fun. Oh my god, I love it. Okay, 0:13:20.625 --> 0:13:23.385 And so yeah, it's collaborative, but I guess it depends 0:13:23.425 --> 0:13:26.625 on what they're going to be doing. Yes, we always 0:13:26.625 --> 0:13:29.305 think we look completely different when we look at videos 0:13:29.385 --> 0:13:33.185 or photos of ourselves. Welcome to podcasts, now being podcasts 0:13:33.785 --> 0:13:36.985 are there's some industry tips for getting dressed for the camera. 0:13:36.985 --> 0:13:39.665 I mean, look, most listeners are just doing daycare drop 0:13:39.705 --> 0:13:41.545 off or going to the office or maybe going to 0:13:41.625 --> 0:13:45.065 a lunch. But it's true in that Like for me, 0:13:45.185 --> 0:13:46.905 like my hair is short and dark now, and I 0:13:46.905 --> 0:13:49.145 have so many black winter tops, but it just makes 0:13:49.145 --> 0:13:50.945 me look like a bubblehead. If I've got dark hair 0:13:51.425 --> 0:13:53.745 and a black top. I look in photos and go, oh, 0:13:53.785 --> 0:13:55.825 you can only just see my face. Like, do you 0:13:55.865 --> 0:13:58.305 have tips for when you are perhaps making memories, you're 0:13:58.305 --> 0:14:00.065 going to a lunch or a wedding or whatever. 0:14:00.305 --> 0:14:03.705 I do always say color, like I feel color lifts anyone. 0:14:03.825 --> 0:14:06.465 And if you look good, you feel good inside. 0:14:06.625 --> 0:14:08.985 So true. So I always do say color. 0:14:09.105 --> 0:14:12.145 I'm not wearing color today, but normally I am like 0:14:12.225 --> 0:14:14.305 a colorful ball, and I always feel really good. And 0:14:14.305 --> 0:14:16.225 the amount of comments you get when you hear color, 0:14:16.265 --> 0:14:19.065 I feel like I always get whenever I have color on. 0:14:19.185 --> 0:14:21.265 Someone always comments on what I'm wearing, no matter what 0:14:21.265 --> 0:14:23.385 it is. So I feel colors are big. 0:14:23.705 --> 0:14:26.305 It does lift your mood. I'm sure of it. Definitely. Okay, 0:14:26.345 --> 0:14:28.665 So yeah, I particularly if you're taking photos or whatever 0:14:28.705 --> 0:14:31.905 it is, think about that and think about your background 0:14:31.905 --> 0:14:32.225 as well. 0:14:32.265 --> 0:14:34.065 So what are you sitting in if you're sitting in 0:14:34.065 --> 0:14:37.305 a dark set, Yeah, dark room, when you're doing these 0:14:37.465 --> 0:14:40.425 podcasts or whatever you're doing. Yeah, just think about that color. 0:14:40.505 --> 0:14:42.305 But then if it's very light, then you can wear 0:14:42.385 --> 0:14:45.025 darker tones. Like think of the couch that you're sitting on. 0:14:45.065 --> 0:14:47.825 That's one thing on maths, we always have to see 0:14:47.825 --> 0:14:49.625 the couch that they're sitting on that don't blend into 0:14:49.665 --> 0:14:51.465 the couch and their mobile heads pretty much. 0:14:51.505 --> 0:14:53.265 That's happened to me in the other studio. I mean, 0:14:53.345 --> 0:14:55.945 we've got beautiful couches, but I was wearing like a 0:14:55.985 --> 0:14:57.825 beigey thing and I just looked like the couch with 0:14:57.905 --> 0:15:01.985 the head. Oh okay, that's interesting. Okay, what's the biggest 0:15:02.025 --> 0:15:05.065 backstage styling disaster you've seen and how did you fix it? 0:15:05.145 --> 0:15:07.745 Was it Drakes Fly? I mean that's pretty Yeah, it 0:15:07.785 --> 0:15:10.185 probably would have been that. Yeah, because about to go 0:15:10.265 --> 0:15:12.945 on and the lot of like malfunctions. Yeah. 0:15:12.985 --> 0:15:15.945 I was over in the UK with Pink and we're 0:15:15.945 --> 0:15:16.905 doing a rehearsal. 0:15:17.145 --> 0:15:17.785 This wasn't live. 0:15:17.825 --> 0:15:19.665 It was like a rehearsal and we had a new 0:15:19.745 --> 0:15:21.905 leotard on her and it was when she bungee drops 0:15:22.105 --> 0:15:25.465 from the sky and the zipper broke on her leotard 0:15:26.025 --> 0:15:28.865 and it was zipping from it was from the center 0:15:28.945 --> 0:15:32.385 back of just above her bottom to the neck. But 0:15:32.425 --> 0:15:34.865 it just she went bungee jumped down and it just 0:15:34.905 --> 0:15:37.385 turned and they're like cut. 0:15:37.145 --> 0:15:40.825 And we literally went no, she just kind of came forward. 0:15:40.865 --> 0:15:42.905 But the next thing was she was twisting around, so 0:15:42.985 --> 0:15:45.145 she just had to completely she was just bobbling up 0:15:45.185 --> 0:15:47.705 and down. You're literally like engineering a body seat or 0:15:47.745 --> 0:15:48.585 something like. That's the thing. 0:15:48.625 --> 0:15:50.345 And same with her with her mic packs because she 0:15:50.425 --> 0:15:52.545 has to sing and mic packs have to go on 0:15:52.585 --> 0:15:53.305 a certain. 0:15:53.065 --> 0:15:55.665 Spot on a kind of seal and because she does 0:15:55.665 --> 0:15:59.345 the silks as well, so it's working around engineering ful 0:15:59.465 --> 0:16:02.105 artists are doing. Oh my god, we occasionally do filming here. 0:16:02.145 --> 0:16:03.505 I have to have like a mic pack at the 0:16:03.505 --> 0:16:05.785 back end lapel and I thought that was hard. Put 0:16:05.825 --> 0:16:07.545 her on your bra and I'm like, it's pulling my 0:16:07.625 --> 0:16:08.185 bra off. 0:16:08.425 --> 0:16:10.345 And then on idle like they've got two mic packs 0:16:10.345 --> 0:16:13.225 because they've got a lapel mic so they can hear them. 0:16:13.225 --> 0:16:15.465 And then they got the ears for singing, and it's 0:16:15.465 --> 0:16:18.585 like how do we hide them so then they're not 0:16:18.625 --> 0:16:21.425 seen and they look like they've got a big hump 0:16:21.465 --> 0:16:22.025 on the back of end. 0:16:22.185 --> 0:16:24.065 Sometimes when I watch the Kardashians, I'm like, oh, they 0:16:24.065 --> 0:16:25.665 won't want to film the back because it's just like 0:16:25.705 --> 0:16:26.345 this big yeah. 0:16:26.345 --> 0:16:28.345 But then some artists like the mic pack out because 0:16:28.345 --> 0:16:29.745 then it's like it's real reality. 0:16:29.865 --> 0:16:32.265 Yeah, It's like it's there. Yeah, so they prefer to 0:16:32.305 --> 0:16:34.305