1 00:00:11,189 --> 00:00:15,349 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mom and Mayor 2 00:00:15,429 --> 00:00:18,709 Speaker 1: acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters that this 3 00:00:18,749 --> 00:00:30,709 Speaker 1: podcast is recorded on Hello and welcome to Cancel. It's 4 00:00:30,709 --> 00:00:33,229 Speaker 1: the podcast that looks at silly celebrity crimes and as 5 00:00:33,269 --> 00:00:35,829 Speaker 1: science charges and sentences to them so we can all 6 00:00:35,869 --> 00:00:38,269 Speaker 1: move on with our lives. I'm Close Stephens and I'm 7 00:00:38,349 --> 00:00:41,829 Speaker 1: Jesse Stevens, and today we are talking about our special 8 00:00:41,869 --> 00:00:45,589 Speaker 1: interest area, the Twins crime. 9 00:00:45,949 --> 00:00:47,909 Speaker 2: Yes, Beatus handful. 10 00:00:48,109 --> 00:00:49,629 Speaker 1: Please tell me he didn't just see that? 11 00:00:50,909 --> 00:00:53,549 Speaker 2: Define Se, I am this close twenteen the four year 12 00:00:53,549 --> 00:00:57,549 Speaker 2: scholarship to Oxford University. Stay away from me, you want 13 00:00:57,589 --> 00:01:01,309 Speaker 2: to brother's pictures tetes Jesse. 14 00:01:01,789 --> 00:01:04,749 Speaker 1: We were obsessed with the Olsen twins growing up. They 15 00:01:04,789 --> 00:01:08,109 Speaker 1: are our only role models, you know. I think about 16 00:01:08,829 --> 00:01:10,629 Speaker 1: just the way they used to do their hair. Yeah, 17 00:01:10,669 --> 00:01:12,549 Speaker 1: I was really inspired by it. It was sort of a 18 00:01:12,589 --> 00:01:16,589 Speaker 1: mermaid curl. It was one strand curled, one strand straight, 19 00:01:16,709 --> 00:01:20,629 Speaker 1: and I was like that that is the prettiest thing 20 00:01:20,869 --> 00:01:24,309 Speaker 1: I have ever seen. You know how sometimes people in 21 00:01:24,349 --> 00:01:26,189 Speaker 1: terms of role modeling, they say you can't be what 22 00:01:26,269 --> 00:01:29,949 Speaker 1: you can't see. Yeah, it's like we couldn't between exactly 23 00:01:29,949 --> 00:01:32,109 Speaker 1: without them. And I remember I would like, look at 24 00:01:32,309 --> 00:01:34,509 Speaker 1: how beautiful they were like when I was, you know, 25 00:01:34,789 --> 00:01:38,069 Speaker 1: fourteen or something, because they had blonde hair for a bit, 26 00:01:38,949 --> 00:01:41,949 Speaker 1: green eyes. It's just not the same. It's not the same. 27 00:01:42,029 --> 00:01:45,509 Speaker 1: And so coloring wise, I just went, there's a blueprint 28 00:01:45,549 --> 00:01:47,069 Speaker 1: here for how I would like to look, and then 29 00:01:47,109 --> 00:01:49,429 Speaker 1: there's what's staring me in the mirror, and I can't 30 00:01:49,589 --> 00:01:52,469 Speaker 1: begin to unpack the differences. Yes, but I felt that 31 00:01:52,589 --> 00:01:55,189 Speaker 1: between me and that were only a few expensive makeup products. 32 00:01:55,229 --> 00:01:57,709 Speaker 1: And I still feel myself fall into that trap and go, 33 00:01:57,789 --> 00:02:01,869 Speaker 1: if I were to just purchase the right shade of eyeshadow, 34 00:02:02,229 --> 00:02:05,429 Speaker 1: I too would have the eyes of the Ulson twin. Yeah, 35 00:02:05,469 --> 00:02:08,069 Speaker 1: and it's never happened to you. I remember an auntie 36 00:02:08,069 --> 00:02:11,629 Speaker 1: saying to us once. I was gushing how beautifuls are, 37 00:02:11,909 --> 00:02:14,069 Speaker 1: and she said, don't you think though that like if 38 00:02:14,109 --> 00:02:16,109 Speaker 1: you were rich and famous and you had grown up 39 00:02:16,189 --> 00:02:18,069 Speaker 1: like that, don't you think you just look like that? 40 00:02:18,149 --> 00:02:21,189 Speaker 1: And I was like, ma'am, no, And also, are you 41 00:02:21,269 --> 00:02:25,229 Speaker 1: saying that I don't look like the Aulsome twins, because 42 00:02:25,349 --> 00:02:28,469 Speaker 1: that is a delusion that I live. In Jesse, we 43 00:02:28,469 --> 00:02:30,709 Speaker 1: were obsessed with them, not from full House, but from 44 00:02:30,749 --> 00:02:32,829 Speaker 1: such shows as to have a kind. 45 00:02:33,029 --> 00:02:35,549 Speaker 3: Okay, Ashley Le's moment, You're gonna be late for school. 46 00:02:36,349 --> 00:02:38,669 Speaker 3: You happy you're wearing lastings. 47 00:02:39,069 --> 00:02:40,389 Speaker 1: That is all this stuff for us. 48 00:02:40,549 --> 00:02:42,509 Speaker 4: No, I've got some friends coming over, so try not 49 00:02:42,549 --> 00:02:44,549 Speaker 4: to dooty the silverware. 50 00:02:44,869 --> 00:02:48,909 Speaker 3: Funny dad, Then try not to get any lipstick on 51 00:02:48,989 --> 00:02:53,549 Speaker 3: the glass. What's with the makeup, Ashley, I just done. 52 00:02:53,549 --> 00:02:55,069 Speaker 1: I got a little blush for the first day of 53 00:02:55,069 --> 00:02:56,509 Speaker 1: school and so little time. 54 00:02:56,669 --> 00:02:58,429 Speaker 2: But Miss Wassmore, this is geometry. 55 00:02:59,509 --> 00:03:00,509 Speaker 1: I'm pro sassing back. 56 00:03:00,749 --> 00:03:03,109 Speaker 4: I want a thousand word report on the history of 57 00:03:03,109 --> 00:03:04,309 Speaker 4: assassin back. 58 00:03:04,909 --> 00:03:07,029 Speaker 3: This Wesmore, the dumped by her boyfriend. 59 00:03:07,509 --> 00:03:10,629 Speaker 2: Miss wes Moore had a boyfriend, cyber boyfriend. 60 00:03:11,829 --> 00:03:14,589 Speaker 1: To me, they're the same show and such masters, such 61 00:03:14,629 --> 00:03:17,909 Speaker 1: good actors. I know as the film New York Minute, 62 00:03:17,989 --> 00:03:22,349 Speaker 1: New York rushing, always rushing, I think that was the plot. Yeah, 63 00:03:22,549 --> 00:03:24,069 Speaker 1: rushing to get places, can't remember where. 64 00:03:24,229 --> 00:03:26,549 Speaker 2: The speech doesn't start until three o'clock. They can see 65 00:03:26,549 --> 00:03:28,989 Speaker 2: you three and a half hours, four and a half 66 00:03:29,349 --> 00:03:29,789 Speaker 2: same things. 67 00:03:30,469 --> 00:03:32,949 Speaker 1: Did you know they had a cameo in seventh even 68 00:03:33,109 --> 00:03:35,989 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, it just feels right. Yeah, what they 69 00:03:35,989 --> 00:03:39,669 Speaker 1: were the naughty Murphy twins, and Simon got set up 70 00:03:39,709 --> 00:03:43,829 Speaker 1: with them and they engage in shoplifting and other mischief. 71 00:03:44,269 --> 00:03:45,029 Speaker 2: Oh, I like this. 72 00:03:45,509 --> 00:03:46,229 Speaker 4: You should get them. 73 00:03:46,709 --> 00:03:48,309 Speaker 1: If you want the breads, I'll pay for them. 74 00:03:48,989 --> 00:03:51,669 Speaker 3: Why because stuffing them down your shirt is against the lot. 75 00:03:51,709 --> 00:03:56,589 Speaker 1: It's called shoplifting. Got to try it. Because twins are naughty. 76 00:03:56,629 --> 00:03:58,549 Speaker 1: We've said it once, We've said it again. People are 77 00:03:58,589 --> 00:04:01,469 Speaker 1: suspicious of twins, cannot be trusted. No, And just on 78 00:04:01,509 --> 00:04:03,749 Speaker 1: that Seventh Heaven, we have done an episode We'll happen 79 00:04:04,029 --> 00:04:06,349 Speaker 1: now show notes to us. Seventh Heaven episode one of 80 00:04:06,389 --> 00:04:10,669 Speaker 1: the most bout shit unhinged things I have ever been 81 00:04:10,749 --> 00:04:12,909 Speaker 1: involved in. We worried when we recorded it, we thought 82 00:04:13,029 --> 00:04:16,149 Speaker 1: is this too niche? And then it did well. Actually 83 00:04:16,189 --> 00:04:18,509 Speaker 1: a lot of you watched Seventh Heaven and enjoyed it. Okay, 84 00:04:19,189 --> 00:04:22,349 Speaker 1: Mary Kay and Ashley are fashion designers and former actors, 85 00:04:22,509 --> 00:04:25,749 Speaker 1: and Ashley icons is two minutes older than Mary Kate. 86 00:04:26,429 --> 00:04:29,949 Speaker 1: They have an older brother and a younger sister, Elizabeth Olson. Yeah, 87 00:04:29,989 --> 00:04:33,229 Speaker 1: I know Elizabeth Olson. I always identified more with Mary Kate, 88 00:04:33,469 --> 00:04:36,349 Speaker 1: but you didn't. You identified with Ashley? Did you know? 89 00:04:36,789 --> 00:04:37,749 Speaker 1: Mary Kay? No? 90 00:04:37,749 --> 00:04:37,869 Speaker 3: No? 91 00:04:37,869 --> 00:04:40,829 Speaker 1: No, No, Mary Kate's the one who dyed her hair. Oh, 92 00:04:40,869 --> 00:04:42,469 Speaker 1: and then you died your hair, and then I died 93 00:04:42,509 --> 00:04:45,189 Speaker 1: my head to be like Mary Kay. Yeah. So did 94 00:04:45,189 --> 00:04:47,029 Speaker 1: you really identify with Mary Kay? I think I did. 95 00:04:47,069 --> 00:04:48,709 Speaker 1: I just always liked her a bit more. Yeah, because 96 00:04:48,709 --> 00:04:51,669 Speaker 1: she was like the tomboy Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, dideah, 97 00:04:51,709 --> 00:04:55,429 Speaker 1: she's a bit skater. Yeah. So Elizabeth Olsen, their younger sister, 98 00:04:55,589 --> 00:04:58,189 Speaker 1: sin Avengers, got a great career in her own right. 99 00:04:58,669 --> 00:05:01,429 Speaker 1: At six months old, the Olsen twins were cast in 100 00:05:01,469 --> 00:05:04,349 Speaker 1: the role of Michelle Tanner on Full House, and they 101 00:05:04,389 --> 00:05:10,069 Speaker 1: started filming at nine months, which is in Untilda's age. 102 00:05:10,109 --> 00:05:13,469 Speaker 1: Reason they got twins was because child labor laws say 103 00:05:13,549 --> 00:05:15,869 Speaker 1: you can't film with the baby for any longer than 104 00:05:15,909 --> 00:05:18,829 Speaker 1: twenty minutes at a time. Why weren't we famous? I 105 00:05:19,069 --> 00:05:22,829 Speaker 1: like most twins end up being like cast in something 106 00:05:22,949 --> 00:05:25,029 Speaker 1: I know. Weren't you saying that the kid and big 107 00:05:25,069 --> 00:05:28,189 Speaker 1: daddy was a twin? Yeah yeah, yeah, So they used 108 00:05:28,269 --> 00:05:30,349 Speaker 1: twins to get around child labor laws, and it's like 109 00:05:30,469 --> 00:05:32,709 Speaker 1: we could have been used to get around child label 110 00:05:32,789 --> 00:05:35,789 Speaker 1: laws and had a little pot of money. Yeah, thanks mum. 111 00:05:36,749 --> 00:05:38,589 Speaker 1: What did she do with us? What are we doing 112 00:05:38,629 --> 00:05:40,469 Speaker 1: at nine months old. I'll tell you what. I broke 113 00:05:40,509 --> 00:05:42,749 Speaker 1: your leg. Yeah, with a little trolley that I ran 114 00:05:42,789 --> 00:05:44,589 Speaker 1: over your leg and you're in hospital. Maybe that was 115 00:05:44,629 --> 00:05:47,269 Speaker 1: our moment. Yeah, we're booked for an ad that day. 116 00:05:47,669 --> 00:05:49,109 Speaker 1: Like actually that one, I was a broken loan and 117 00:05:49,189 --> 00:05:51,989 Speaker 1: there was an injury. So yeah, they couldn't film for 118 00:05:52,029 --> 00:05:54,069 Speaker 1: longer than twenty minutes time, so two of them, they 119 00:05:54,069 --> 00:05:56,869 Speaker 1: could film for forty minutes at a time. Great, okay, 120 00:05:56,949 --> 00:06:01,669 Speaker 1: So it's like someone needs quadruplets, someone needs octoplets for 121 00:06:01,749 --> 00:06:04,829 Speaker 1: filming purposes. I also love how just sorry in the 122 00:06:04,829 --> 00:06:06,989 Speaker 1: intro you did skip over. You mentioned it, but we 123 00:06:07,029 --> 00:06:08,669 Speaker 1: didn't sit with it for long enough that there is 124 00:06:08,709 --> 00:06:11,949 Speaker 1: a fourth Ooltan Yeah, oh fourth, and then there's two 125 00:06:12,109 --> 00:06:16,709 Speaker 1: half sibling Olson. No, but there's Elizabeth Famous, so famous. 126 00:06:16,789 --> 00:06:20,509 Speaker 1: His name's like Trent Tray's. I think he's doing his 127 00:06:20,509 --> 00:06:23,709 Speaker 1: own thing. He's a bit rock cut ash. Continue. They 128 00:06:23,709 --> 00:06:26,109 Speaker 1: were in full House for about eight years, and during 129 00:06:26,189 --> 00:06:29,949 Speaker 1: that time their family set up a production company, Dual Staff, 130 00:06:30,269 --> 00:06:34,349 Speaker 1: which produced their subsequent films and videos, and by three 131 00:06:35,029 --> 00:06:37,909 Speaker 1: they slashed, their parents were earning eighty thousand dollars an 132 00:06:37,949 --> 00:06:41,509 Speaker 1: episode a full House and By ten, they were the 133 00:06:41,589 --> 00:06:45,789 Speaker 1: youngest self made millionaires in American history. Now they have 134 00:06:45,829 --> 00:06:48,549 Speaker 1: a luxury fashion label called The Row and it reached 135 00:06:48,589 --> 00:06:51,189 Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars in sales in twenty twenty one. 136 00:06:51,709 --> 00:06:53,749 Speaker 1: They have a T shirt flight eight hundred dollars. Yeah, 137 00:06:53,789 --> 00:06:55,429 Speaker 1: and the audasty of it all. I just love it. 138 00:06:55,469 --> 00:06:58,629 Speaker 1: I love it. And they like don't really advertise. Their 139 00:06:58,669 --> 00:07:02,589 Speaker 1: Instagram is like, here's a painting, and it's like, that's 140 00:07:02,589 --> 00:07:05,189 Speaker 1: not that's not your clothes, and it's not you want 141 00:07:05,229 --> 00:07:07,069 Speaker 1: our clothes. You'll find our clothes and it's like I 142 00:07:07,149 --> 00:07:11,829 Speaker 1: will And it's not like they have a label or anything. 143 00:07:11,989 --> 00:07:16,189 Speaker 1: It is a white T shirt and they're like, for this, yeah, 144 00:07:16,309 --> 00:07:19,389 Speaker 1: plain white T shirt. It will be eight hundred dollars 145 00:07:19,389 --> 00:07:21,069 Speaker 1: and there will not be a sale and you will 146 00:07:21,109 --> 00:07:23,549 Speaker 1: find us. And we are not online. Are they online? 147 00:07:23,589 --> 00:07:27,789 Speaker 1: I don't know. Probably they're not Instagram influencer marketing stuff 148 00:07:27,829 --> 00:07:29,669 Speaker 1: because they don't need to be, because they're the bloody 149 00:07:29,669 --> 00:07:34,069 Speaker 1: Olsen Twins. Before we get started, a funny little bit 150 00:07:34,229 --> 00:07:37,309 Speaker 1: of commentary about the Olsen Twins online is that they're 151 00:07:37,349 --> 00:07:41,149 Speaker 1: always having too much fun. Now, Jesse with each you agree, 152 00:07:41,629 --> 00:07:43,589 Speaker 1: this is the two of them at the Met Gala 153 00:07:43,589 --> 00:07:46,149 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen. Can you describe what you see and 154 00:07:46,229 --> 00:07:48,349 Speaker 1: if they are in fact having too much fun? Yeah, 155 00:07:48,349 --> 00:07:50,389 Speaker 1: So they always look like they don't want to be there. 156 00:07:50,389 --> 00:07:52,629 Speaker 1: They look like they've seen a ghost. Yeah, they look 157 00:07:52,709 --> 00:07:56,109 Speaker 1: like they're looking at the same ghosts. They look haunted. 158 00:07:56,189 --> 00:07:59,749 Speaker 1: They look haunted, they look shocked. They look pissed off, 159 00:07:59,749 --> 00:08:02,709 Speaker 1: which I'm like, I would be exasperated too if I 160 00:08:02,749 --> 00:08:04,869 Speaker 1: had been famous for as long as I know, I 161 00:08:04,949 --> 00:08:08,109 Speaker 1: think they're tired. My structure for today is as follows 162 00:08:08,789 --> 00:08:13,509 Speaker 1: being difficult on set, Terrible Movies, feud with Spencer Pratt, 163 00:08:13,789 --> 00:08:19,149 Speaker 1: oh Mary Kate Olsen's struggles privacy and fighting Jesse being 164 00:08:19,189 --> 00:08:22,349 Speaker 1: difficult on set. When the twins were babies, co star 165 00:08:22,549 --> 00:08:27,669 Speaker 1: John Steymos had some feedback about their professionalism they were babies. 166 00:08:27,749 --> 00:08:31,229 Speaker 1: He actually tried to get them fired. He told Entertainment 167 00:08:31,269 --> 00:08:34,029 Speaker 1: Weekly that they cried a lot, which made it difficult 168 00:08:34,029 --> 00:08:37,109 Speaker 1: to get the shot. At one point they were recast, 169 00:08:37,349 --> 00:08:39,509 Speaker 1: but it didn't work in that the other twins were 170 00:08:39,509 --> 00:08:42,069 Speaker 1: the same with the crying and apparently, and this is 171 00:08:42,109 --> 00:08:48,789 Speaker 1: on record, less attractive. So the Olsen twins were rehired Michelle, 172 00:08:48,829 --> 00:08:49,269 Speaker 1: why don't you. 173 00:08:49,269 --> 00:08:51,109 Speaker 3: Take Molina up to your room and show her where 174 00:08:51,109 --> 00:08:51,949 Speaker 3: she's going to be staying. 175 00:08:51,989 --> 00:08:56,109 Speaker 1: Okay, you've got it, dude, Steymos said. The twins acted 176 00:08:56,149 --> 00:08:58,629 Speaker 1: like they wanted to be anywhere else, and it's like 177 00:08:58,749 --> 00:09:04,389 Speaker 1: they did like the park, for example, in the cot anywhere. 178 00:09:04,589 --> 00:09:06,949 Speaker 1: So as you say, Matilda at that age, now you 179 00:09:07,029 --> 00:09:10,309 Speaker 1: bring her on set. Yeah, she cries ickon, she's she's not. 180 00:09:10,709 --> 00:09:13,749 Speaker 1: She's got eight minutes of good qualitiness and that'll be 181 00:09:13,749 --> 00:09:17,509 Speaker 1: great quality, award winning television those eight minutes. And then 182 00:09:17,549 --> 00:09:20,949 Speaker 1: she goes and then thinks, shot, Yeah, I shot, I vomited, 183 00:09:20,989 --> 00:09:23,149 Speaker 1: I'm hungry, I'm tired, out of my nose and in 184 00:09:23,189 --> 00:09:26,349 Speaker 1: fact of eating the script. Yeah, and Matilda goes into 185 00:09:26,349 --> 00:09:29,309 Speaker 1: a trance. Yeah, she'll just stare at something and then 186 00:09:29,389 --> 00:09:32,229 Speaker 1: if you'd break the trance, she cries yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 187 00:09:32,269 --> 00:09:35,389 Speaker 1: she gets really upset. It's not really that like conducive 188 00:09:35,429 --> 00:09:38,709 Speaker 1: to great yeah work, that is you know what it 189 00:09:38,789 --> 00:09:42,749 Speaker 1: is unprofessional because they were getting paid, yeah, good money, 190 00:09:43,029 --> 00:09:45,149 Speaker 1: and if you've only got a good twenty minutes in 191 00:09:45,229 --> 00:09:49,069 Speaker 1: year time, they'd be constantly crying. You shittn't on set? Yeah, 192 00:09:49,309 --> 00:09:52,189 Speaker 1: like if if Sean Steymoss or whatever was kissed himself, 193 00:09:52,229 --> 00:09:55,669 Speaker 1: if he was pissing, shitting, demanding people change his nappy, 194 00:09:56,069 --> 00:10:00,509 Speaker 1: demanding snacks, demanding breast milk, then people what he'd probably 195 00:10:00,509 --> 00:10:05,229 Speaker 1: be me too, Yeah, and these bitches free breaking good cash. 196 00:10:05,349 --> 00:10:08,629 Speaker 1: Even then, The Washington Post reported that Mary Kate filmed 197 00:10:08,749 --> 00:10:11,989 Speaker 1: most of season one because Ashley was very much afraid 198 00:10:12,029 --> 00:10:17,029 Speaker 1: to come on the set, which is very and also 199 00:10:17,189 --> 00:10:19,909 Speaker 1: very you ah, that is very If it was us, 200 00:10:19,909 --> 00:10:21,869 Speaker 1: I just feel like I would do the majority of 201 00:10:21,909 --> 00:10:26,069 Speaker 1: the work. Yeah, and I'd be like, I'm shy. At 202 00:10:26,069 --> 00:10:29,189 Speaker 1: one point, they tried to fire Ashley and keep Mary 203 00:10:29,269 --> 00:10:33,549 Speaker 1: Kate for a few reasons. Apparently Mary Kate is actually 204 00:10:33,549 --> 00:10:37,949 Speaker 1: the actor between the two. Maybe that's why I warned her. Yeah, 205 00:10:37,989 --> 00:10:41,629 Speaker 1: and also Ashley developed a freckle, and that was an 206 00:10:41,629 --> 00:10:44,549 Speaker 1: issue given that they were meant to be interchangeable. Surely 207 00:10:44,669 --> 00:10:47,909 Speaker 1: meck up, they're meant to be fraternal. Oh bullshit. 208 00:10:48,029 --> 00:10:48,229 Speaker 3: Yeah. 209 00:10:48,429 --> 00:10:50,589 Speaker 1: Test, Claire and I did our test. We've got to 210 00:10:50,629 --> 00:10:53,389 Speaker 1: message them on Instagram because you and I thought we 211 00:10:53,389 --> 00:10:56,949 Speaker 1: were fraternal. Bunch of podcast listeners. When you guys are crazy, 212 00:10:56,989 --> 00:10:59,309 Speaker 1: you need to get a test. We did a test 213 00:10:59,589 --> 00:11:01,629 Speaker 1: were identical. We thought it was a big announcement. No 214 00:11:01,669 --> 00:11:03,029 Speaker 1: one gave a shit because they were like, we knew 215 00:11:03,029 --> 00:11:05,949 Speaker 1: your identity. Yeah, this is an interesting information to task. Yeah. 216 00:11:05,989 --> 00:11:09,629 Speaker 1: For context, that means that basically, the Olsen twins think 217 00:11:10,149 --> 00:11:12,989 Speaker 1: that they have the same genetic similarity as siblings, and 218 00:11:13,029 --> 00:11:16,509 Speaker 1: they don't. You don't you're the You're an egg that's split. Yeah, 219 00:11:16,869 --> 00:11:22,589 Speaker 1: it's very obvious. Everyone sniff it on others. There was 220 00:11:22,669 --> 00:11:26,029 Speaker 1: a stand in doll for Michelle Tanner when the twins 221 00:11:26,029 --> 00:11:29,189 Speaker 1: couldn't be on set, and apparently Bob Saggett thought it 222 00:11:29,229 --> 00:11:32,669 Speaker 1: was funny to act inappropriately with the doll. I don't 223 00:11:32,789 --> 00:11:34,349 Speaker 1: like that, not one bit. I don't think. Well, it 224 00:11:34,389 --> 00:11:36,389 Speaker 1: depends on what the inappropriate thing is. Is it funny 225 00:11:36,429 --> 00:11:39,149 Speaker 1: to put a cigarette in its mouth? Yes? Is it 226 00:11:39,189 --> 00:11:42,749 Speaker 1: funny to pretend that it's drinking beer? Absolutely yeah. But 227 00:11:42,789 --> 00:11:44,829 Speaker 1: there are other there are other things that are absolutely 228 00:11:44,829 --> 00:11:46,549 Speaker 1: not appropriate. But I'm going to choose to believe it 229 00:11:46,549 --> 00:11:48,749 Speaker 1: was a cigarette hanging out of it. Well. He also 230 00:11:48,949 --> 00:11:51,909 Speaker 1: so he wrote like a memoir and mentioned holding a 231 00:11:51,909 --> 00:11:54,389 Speaker 1: lot of things about Full House, and he mentioned that 232 00:11:54,429 --> 00:11:57,229 Speaker 1: you'd be on set and one of the girls will 233 00:11:57,229 --> 00:11:59,269 Speaker 1: have done a pooh and he would change their nappy, 234 00:11:59,749 --> 00:12:01,749 Speaker 1: and I was like, I feel weird about that. I 235 00:12:01,749 --> 00:12:06,109 Speaker 1: don't want like Bob Saget changing my nappy. Yes, yeah, 236 00:12:06,149 --> 00:12:07,949 Speaker 1: you can die on that hill. I just think like 237 00:12:08,349 --> 00:12:11,469 Speaker 1: Matilda has very few people that she is happy changing 238 00:12:11,509 --> 00:12:14,029 Speaker 1: her nappy. Yeah yeah, yea, it's an intimate app Yeah. 239 00:12:14,149 --> 00:12:18,229 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have some random man, I mean, like, sorry, 240 00:12:18,429 --> 00:12:21,469 Speaker 1: just forgot like childcare worker of course, yeah yeah, but 241 00:12:21,629 --> 00:12:26,349 Speaker 1: like somebody at her job, Like she's going to work 242 00:12:26,349 --> 00:12:28,589 Speaker 1: at McDonald's for the day and you're gonna have her 243 00:12:28,709 --> 00:12:31,829 Speaker 1: manager changed her nappy. No, no, no, no, that will 244 00:12:31,829 --> 00:12:35,189 Speaker 1: be her mother changing her nappy on her break. Ye what. 245 00:12:36,949 --> 00:12:38,949 Speaker 1: As the girls got older, they had to be bribed 246 00:12:38,949 --> 00:12:40,949 Speaker 1: with treats in order to do what they were asked, 247 00:12:42,149 --> 00:12:44,509 Speaker 1: as is the case with everyone. I have bribed myself 248 00:12:44,549 --> 00:12:47,829 Speaker 1: with treats today. I didn't know this, but they were 249 00:12:47,869 --> 00:12:51,669 Speaker 1: credited as one person until right at the end of 250 00:12:51,709 --> 00:12:54,149 Speaker 1: their time on Full House. The credit said Mary Kate 251 00:12:54,309 --> 00:12:58,709 Speaker 1: Ashley Olsen. Interesting, hmm, how to piss you off? Would 252 00:12:59,429 --> 00:13:01,389 Speaker 1: I don't know? I know you're a baby, so wait 253 00:13:01,469 --> 00:13:04,429 Speaker 1: share an Instagram account summer. Yeah, they had to wear 254 00:13:04,549 --> 00:13:07,829 Speaker 1: benches because they lost their baby teeth at different times 255 00:13:07,869 --> 00:13:12,309 Speaker 1: and for continuity to have the same teeth. When they 256 00:13:12,349 --> 00:13:15,589 Speaker 1: were asked to do Fuller House, they turned it down. 257 00:13:15,829 --> 00:13:19,029 Speaker 1: Ashley didn't feel comfortable acting because she hadn't acted since 258 00:13:19,029 --> 00:13:21,909 Speaker 1: she was a teenager, and it didn't work for Mary 259 00:13:21,949 --> 00:13:25,029 Speaker 1: Kate's schedule. So look, I think they're above her. Yeah, 260 00:13:25,069 --> 00:13:28,069 Speaker 1: oh my god, so above it. Yeah, they're like, you 261 00:13:28,149 --> 00:13:41,629 Speaker 1: will taint a luxury clothing line. Yeah, don't. Tur Jesse 262 00:13:41,869 --> 00:13:45,229 Speaker 1: terrible movies and TV shows. One of their first TV 263 00:13:45,429 --> 00:13:48,789 Speaker 1: movies was called Double Double Toil and Trouble. 264 00:13:49,949 --> 00:13:54,429 Speaker 2: Secresy. Ooh, you're wasting your time, have pines. 265 00:13:54,509 --> 00:13:55,669 Speaker 3: It's after midnight. 266 00:13:56,029 --> 00:13:56,989 Speaker 1: It's not working. 267 00:13:57,549 --> 00:13:59,829 Speaker 3: Even if you knew the incantation, it wouldn't do you 268 00:13:59,869 --> 00:14:03,909 Speaker 3: any good. It's after midnight, remember my cat. 269 00:14:04,269 --> 00:14:07,589 Speaker 2: Yes, I've decided to turn each of you into a 270 00:14:07,709 --> 00:14:12,509 Speaker 2: little mouse, and I get on your music. 271 00:14:13,429 --> 00:14:13,469 Speaker 3: No. 272 00:14:14,349 --> 00:14:17,789 Speaker 1: And it was about Halloween fabulous, Yes, but it's not 273 00:14:17,949 --> 00:14:21,829 Speaker 1: just about Halloween. It's about Halloween and twins. And I 274 00:14:21,869 --> 00:14:24,429 Speaker 1: can tell from the title. Yeah, that was a theme 275 00:14:24,509 --> 00:14:26,069 Speaker 1: in all their work. That's what I loved is it 276 00:14:26,109 --> 00:14:28,429 Speaker 1: was consistent. You knew what you were getting, yeah, and 277 00:14:28,629 --> 00:14:32,309 Speaker 1: like twins would be a theme. Yes. They play two 278 00:14:32,389 --> 00:14:35,789 Speaker 1: little girls who discover that their great aunt Sophia has 279 00:14:35,829 --> 00:14:39,749 Speaker 1: been trapped and cursed by her evil twin sister Agatha 280 00:14:40,309 --> 00:14:43,629 Speaker 1: on the seventh year of her imprisonment. Sofia will be 281 00:14:43,709 --> 00:14:46,349 Speaker 1: doomed to the nether world unless the curse is broken 282 00:14:46,549 --> 00:14:51,229 Speaker 1: by the magical spell of twins. I swear I wrote this. 283 00:14:52,229 --> 00:14:56,109 Speaker 1: I think I wrote this story because all my stories 284 00:14:56,629 --> 00:15:02,029 Speaker 1: up until when I was maybe fifteen involved magic and twins. 285 00:15:03,269 --> 00:15:05,149 Speaker 1: They were my favorite things to play with. One of 286 00:15:05,149 --> 00:15:07,069 Speaker 1: them was Siamese Twins, which I look back on and 287 00:15:07,269 --> 00:15:10,669 Speaker 1: I now think that it was incredibly politically incorrect. Yea, yeah, yeah, 288 00:15:10,709 --> 00:15:12,229 Speaker 1: I don't even think you meant to call them matt 289 00:15:13,029 --> 00:15:15,989 Speaker 1: but at the time it felt really appropriate. But we've 290 00:15:15,989 --> 00:15:19,349 Speaker 1: talked about this too, is that twins are magic. Beginning 291 00:15:19,349 --> 00:15:23,269 Speaker 1: of time, twins have been understood as magic, Yes, yeah, 292 00:15:23,309 --> 00:15:28,389 Speaker 1: but also you know, capable of amazing, amazing sorcery. In 293 00:15:28,469 --> 00:15:30,989 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five, they start in It Takes Two with 294 00:15:31,109 --> 00:15:34,229 Speaker 1: Kirsty Ally. They play two lookalike girls who meet by 295 00:15:34,349 --> 00:15:37,909 Speaker 1: chance in a summer camp. One is an orphan while 296 00:15:37,909 --> 00:15:41,789 Speaker 1: the other is a wealthy heiress. Okay, they decide to 297 00:15:41,869 --> 00:15:45,069 Speaker 1: act as matchmakers for their respective parent figures, and it 298 00:15:45,189 --> 00:15:47,349 Speaker 1: sounds very the Parent Trap. 299 00:15:47,909 --> 00:15:53,389 Speaker 2: You're late my sisters, Sisters Hallie. 300 00:15:53,349 --> 00:15:55,789 Speaker 1: I like twins, and then I was like, oh, they 301 00:15:55,869 --> 00:15:58,749 Speaker 1: must have ripped it off. No, Jesse. This is three 302 00:15:58,829 --> 00:16:02,469 Speaker 1: years before the Parent Trap, and I think the Parent 303 00:16:02,509 --> 00:16:05,949 Speaker 1: Trap we're gonna go politically correct. The Parent Trap was 304 00:16:05,949 --> 00:16:08,829 Speaker 1: a bit of twin Erasia. It was twin Erasia. If 305 00:16:08,869 --> 00:16:11,869 Speaker 1: you're gonna have twins, cast twins, you know what I mean. Yeah, 306 00:16:11,869 --> 00:16:13,189 Speaker 1: But then it's like if youre canna have a Singleton 307 00:16:13,229 --> 00:16:15,389 Speaker 1: caster Singleton. So what we've got is we've got twins 308 00:16:15,429 --> 00:16:18,509 Speaker 1: taking Singleton's jobs. Yeah yeah, and then we've got Lindsay 309 00:16:18,509 --> 00:16:22,549 Speaker 1: Loewen taking twin job. I remember not appreciating that watching 310 00:16:22,589 --> 00:16:24,149 Speaker 1: that show, and I was like, that is simply one 311 00:16:24,229 --> 00:16:29,589 Speaker 1: person cos a twin as me. I just think that 312 00:16:29,589 --> 00:16:31,869 Speaker 1: that's interesting that they pretty much made the parent Trap 313 00:16:31,909 --> 00:16:33,869 Speaker 1: before the Parent Trap. I wonder why that one didn't 314 00:16:33,949 --> 00:16:37,229 Speaker 1: quite hit hit the same way the Parent trapp did. 315 00:16:37,549 --> 00:16:39,709 Speaker 1: Then there was the TV series Two of a Kind. 316 00:16:40,149 --> 00:16:42,469 Speaker 1: They were about ten or eleven during this, and we 317 00:16:42,549 --> 00:16:44,989 Speaker 1: loved it. It's based on a dad who has lost 318 00:16:45,029 --> 00:16:48,069 Speaker 1: his wife and been left with his scheming twelve year 319 00:16:48,109 --> 00:16:52,349 Speaker 1: old daughters, Mary Kate and Ashley Burke they changed the 320 00:16:52,429 --> 00:16:55,909 Speaker 1: last name, are complete opposites. Mary Kate is a tomboy 321 00:16:55,989 --> 00:16:59,189 Speaker 1: who is into sports and hates maths, and Ashley is 322 00:16:59,189 --> 00:17:01,269 Speaker 1: a girly girl who does really well in school and 323 00:17:01,269 --> 00:17:04,709 Speaker 1: wants to be a model. Jess, do you remember this episode? 324 00:17:04,909 --> 00:17:08,629 Speaker 1: Their dad hires a maths tutor for Mary Kate, Ashley 325 00:17:08,669 --> 00:17:11,229 Speaker 1: develops a crush on him and convinces Mary Kate to 326 00:17:11,269 --> 00:17:13,749 Speaker 1: switch places so they can each do what they want. 327 00:17:14,069 --> 00:17:16,389 Speaker 1: Love it getting Mary Kate yesterday. 328 00:17:16,429 --> 00:17:17,909 Speaker 3: It was like you weren't even listening. But you gotta 329 00:17:17,949 --> 00:17:18,909 Speaker 3: be one of these problems, right. 330 00:17:19,549 --> 00:17:22,349 Speaker 2: I think you underestimate what a good teacher you are. 331 00:17:24,109 --> 00:17:27,749 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe I'm not charging your father enough. Even your 332 00:17:27,789 --> 00:17:31,349 Speaker 3: handwrittings improved, right down to the little hearts used for 333 00:17:31,349 --> 00:17:35,389 Speaker 3: decimal points. I was hoping you notice them. I guess 334 00:17:35,389 --> 00:17:36,469 Speaker 3: we can move on to the next chapter. 335 00:17:36,509 --> 00:17:41,069 Speaker 2: Then whatever you think, I'm yours for the next two hours. 336 00:17:41,389 --> 00:17:43,349 Speaker 3: Yeah great, Do you mind backing off a little? 337 00:17:43,389 --> 00:17:45,709 Speaker 1: I think we took some inspo from moments like that. 338 00:17:45,749 --> 00:17:48,389 Speaker 1: Didn't We Yeah, the switching, because every twin needs to 339 00:17:48,389 --> 00:17:50,909 Speaker 1: do a switching. We definitely did it. Yeah, just like 340 00:17:51,229 --> 00:17:53,629 Speaker 1: switch things up, keep people on their toes, because that's 341 00:17:53,669 --> 00:17:55,109 Speaker 1: the point of being a twin. You can't do a 342 00:17:55,149 --> 00:17:59,829 Speaker 1: trick not being a trick star. In another episode, Ashley 343 00:17:59,949 --> 00:18:02,469 Speaker 1: is ecstatic when she gets assigned to do a history 344 00:18:02,509 --> 00:18:06,389 Speaker 1: project with her crush and you'll remember this Pokey Valentine, 345 00:18:06,869 --> 00:18:09,509 Speaker 1: Oh wow, might bring you back in time. What's that 346 00:18:09,629 --> 00:18:12,549 Speaker 1: the guys now? Yep? But Mary Kate faces a dilemma 347 00:18:12,589 --> 00:18:15,429 Speaker 1: when she believes Pokey has asked her out on a date. 348 00:18:16,389 --> 00:18:20,109 Speaker 1: I remember that episode. Oh gosh, I remember that show. 349 00:18:20,389 --> 00:18:22,429 Speaker 1: It was only a season. We must have watched every 350 00:18:22,469 --> 00:18:25,189 Speaker 1: episode seven times. The ethical dilemma of all of that 351 00:18:25,589 --> 00:18:29,269 Speaker 1: ethical dilemma of our times. Yep. Yeah. Throughout their teen years, 352 00:18:29,349 --> 00:18:33,189 Speaker 1: they had seven direct to video films that they start in. 353 00:18:33,629 --> 00:18:36,509 Speaker 1: I'm going to share one review from Rotten Tomatoes for 354 00:18:36,669 --> 00:18:40,989 Speaker 1: each Okay, because I'll say before you start each of them, fantastic, 355 00:18:41,589 --> 00:18:46,949 Speaker 1: no notes, brilliant, loved Okay. Passport to Paris, Oh fantastic, 356 00:18:46,949 --> 00:18:50,869 Speaker 1: because this was part of the formula. It was always like, Okay, 357 00:18:50,989 --> 00:18:57,829 Speaker 1: start with Twins. Yes, okay, tick throw in destination. Okay, 358 00:18:57,909 --> 00:19:01,269 Speaker 1: so New York Minute, Password to Paris, and that formula 359 00:19:01,709 --> 00:19:07,189 Speaker 1: unsurprisingly worked, nailed it every single time. Somebody clearly wanted 360 00:19:07,229 --> 00:19:09,029 Speaker 1: to do some travel, so they just did movies in 361 00:19:09,069 --> 00:19:14,029 Speaker 1: different countries. Adams, Yes, so Passport to Paris Rotten Tomatoes 362 00:19:14,189 --> 00:19:17,349 Speaker 1: really crap, but I liked it when I was younger. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 363 00:19:17,389 --> 00:19:21,469 Speaker 1: summed it up, switching goals. Don't remember this one once. 364 00:19:21,509 --> 00:19:24,749 Speaker 1: I kind of saw the poster and stuff. Yeah, something 365 00:19:24,789 --> 00:19:28,749 Speaker 1: she would sport review. No, not even for the kids. 366 00:19:28,949 --> 00:19:31,149 Speaker 1: Make them go play outside and make good use of 367 00:19:31,189 --> 00:19:36,269 Speaker 1: their time. Okay, hash, our lips are sealed. Oh I 368 00:19:36,309 --> 00:19:40,909 Speaker 1: loved this one. This one was set in Australia. Yeah, yes, 369 00:19:41,829 --> 00:19:45,189 Speaker 1: review worst movie set in Australia. I've ever seen good 370 00:19:45,189 --> 00:19:48,309 Speaker 1: and finish it. Have you watched any other films set 371 00:19:48,309 --> 00:19:51,589 Speaker 1: in Australia? Winning London? Oh okay, here we go again. 372 00:19:51,709 --> 00:19:56,829 Speaker 1: So we've done Paris, New York now London, Yeah, and Australia. 373 00:19:56,949 --> 00:19:59,829 Speaker 1: A summary of it on Rotten Tomatoes says Olsen. Twins 374 00:19:59,829 --> 00:20:05,349 Speaker 1: had do international competition pursue boys, Yes, yes, because that 375 00:20:05,509 --> 00:20:09,429 Speaker 1: was another trope per Yeah, so it's like, if you're making, 376 00:20:10,109 --> 00:20:12,189 Speaker 1: you know, a pancake, you've got like your eggs, your 377 00:20:12,189 --> 00:20:17,269 Speaker 1: flour and whatever. It's like the recipe Twins' Foreign Place 378 00:20:18,029 --> 00:20:20,749 Speaker 1: then boy crazy, Like they had to throw in the 379 00:20:21,229 --> 00:20:24,469 Speaker 1: boys an appropriate element at an appropriate age, and I 380 00:20:24,509 --> 00:20:28,949 Speaker 1: loved that. Yeah review, cool movie, really romantic. I love 381 00:20:28,989 --> 00:20:34,029 Speaker 1: the action. Oh great, lovely when in Rome? Oh fabulous. 382 00:20:34,109 --> 00:20:36,869 Speaker 1: Fuck they nailed it. Yeah, you know how on TikTok 383 00:20:36,909 --> 00:20:39,909 Speaker 1: the whole thing is like do the same thing over 384 00:20:39,989 --> 00:20:41,989 Speaker 1: and over again. That's how you get traction is it's 385 00:20:41,989 --> 00:20:45,309 Speaker 1: like fined your niche and then produce forty five videos 386 00:20:45,349 --> 00:20:48,309 Speaker 1: that cater to that niche every single day. The Olsens 387 00:20:48,829 --> 00:20:52,549 Speaker 1: twenty years ahead. Yeah, maybe nearly thirty years ahead of 388 00:20:52,589 --> 00:20:54,549 Speaker 1: the game. They did so well, We're gonna do the 389 00:20:54,589 --> 00:20:58,269 Speaker 1: same film in seven different destinations and you will love 390 00:20:58,309 --> 00:21:01,869 Speaker 1: each and everyone. Review. They have so much money, thought 391 00:21:01,869 --> 00:21:06,149 Speaker 1: they could afford a plot. Okay, that's not what they promosed. No, 392 00:21:06,149 --> 00:21:08,709 Speaker 1: none of that recipe said that there was a plot required. 393 00:21:09,229 --> 00:21:15,309 Speaker 1: We've got cost you ms, hair tongs, but not a plot. Finally, 394 00:21:15,389 --> 00:21:18,589 Speaker 1: the Challenge review, I'm so glad that this is the 395 00:21:18,669 --> 00:21:22,749 Speaker 1: last Mary Kate Nashley movie. They are annoying, evil, creepy 396 00:21:22,829 --> 00:21:25,549 Speaker 1: robots trying to take over the world. Well this is 397 00:21:25,549 --> 00:21:28,429 Speaker 1: why they start. Yeah, because everyone thinks they're creepy just 398 00:21:28,429 --> 00:21:32,749 Speaker 1: because they're twins. There was so much discrimination against people 399 00:21:32,829 --> 00:21:36,469 Speaker 1: do find them really creepy and they ask them unusual questions. 400 00:21:37,189 --> 00:21:40,309 Speaker 1: But Jesse, there was one more movie, and this one 401 00:21:40,349 --> 00:21:46,789 Speaker 1: was different because it went to theaters and this was 402 00:21:46,869 --> 00:21:49,429 Speaker 1: New York Minute. It went to theaters. Oh, I definitely 403 00:21:49,469 --> 00:21:52,149 Speaker 1: saw that in the cinema. Yeah, Jess, this is a 404 00:21:52,149 --> 00:21:55,149 Speaker 1: big moment because they'd done so much stuff straight for 405 00:21:55,269 --> 00:21:58,389 Speaker 1: TV and it was like this was launching them as adults. 406 00:21:58,749 --> 00:22:00,669 Speaker 1: There was so much hype they were going to prove 407 00:22:00,709 --> 00:22:03,989 Speaker 1: themselves as actors. This had a big budget and it 408 00:22:04,029 --> 00:22:09,149 Speaker 1: had Eugene Levy did it, yeah, the Detective. But New 409 00:22:09,229 --> 00:22:13,269 Speaker 1: York Minute made history as the eleventh worst wide opening 410 00:22:13,349 --> 00:22:16,269 Speaker 1: of all time. It has eleven percent on Rotten Tomatoes. 411 00:22:16,589 --> 00:22:18,869 Speaker 1: This shocks me because I think in terms of proof 412 00:22:18,909 --> 00:22:22,149 Speaker 1: of concept, people loved the Olsen Twins. I was going 413 00:22:22,229 --> 00:22:24,869 Speaker 1: to follow them literally to any country around the globe. 414 00:22:25,309 --> 00:22:27,349 Speaker 1: And when they were going to New York, I was 415 00:22:28,109 --> 00:22:31,469 Speaker 1: at Greater Union with my frozen Coke and popcorn at 416 00:22:31,509 --> 00:22:33,909 Speaker 1: eleven am on a Saturday. I know it for sure. 417 00:22:34,269 --> 00:22:37,469 Speaker 1: It's a very bad movie. And apparently people say it's 418 00:22:37,469 --> 00:22:39,829 Speaker 1: made worse by the fact it had a budget, because 419 00:22:39,869 --> 00:22:42,349 Speaker 1: it made like, I guess, the stakes higher and it 420 00:22:42,469 --> 00:22:47,509 Speaker 1: made their lack of acting chops more obvious. And the 421 00:22:47,589 --> 00:22:50,189 Speaker 1: other issue was, well, he's won at Eugene Levy, He's 422 00:22:50,189 --> 00:22:52,269 Speaker 1: won an Emmy. Yeah, so I feel like when you're 423 00:22:52,309 --> 00:22:56,349 Speaker 1: up against that caliber of actor, yeap, it's not always kind. No. 424 00:22:56,349 --> 00:22:56,509 Speaker 3: No. 425 00:22:57,349 --> 00:23:00,469 Speaker 1: They had also just turned seventeen, and the CEO of 426 00:23:00,509 --> 00:23:03,589 Speaker 1: their production company has since said that they were trying 427 00:23:03,629 --> 00:23:07,269 Speaker 1: to sell the Olsen Twins to college aged men, so 428 00:23:07,429 --> 00:23:10,949 Speaker 1: instead of cutesy girls for a preteen audience, they tried 429 00:23:10,989 --> 00:23:13,789 Speaker 1: to make them sexy. And so all the promo around 430 00:23:13,789 --> 00:23:17,029 Speaker 1: New York minute was them doing like magazine spreads being 431 00:23:17,029 --> 00:23:20,469 Speaker 1: like we're legal, Oh wow, okay, yeah, and that was 432 00:23:20,669 --> 00:23:23,429 Speaker 1: very of the time. Yeah, And online there was a 433 00:23:23,429 --> 00:23:26,469 Speaker 1: website that was a countdown to them being legal, and 434 00:23:26,509 --> 00:23:30,109 Speaker 1: then it had like all the different in America. Yeah, 435 00:23:30,189 --> 00:23:32,909 Speaker 1: and when they'd be legal fee, which, in terms of 436 00:23:32,949 --> 00:23:37,149 Speaker 1: their fan base being me and you, that wasn't a 437 00:23:37,189 --> 00:23:39,989 Speaker 1: particularly vital piece of information for us. We wouldn't have 438 00:23:40,069 --> 00:23:42,669 Speaker 1: known what it meant. No, we were just like, hands up, 439 00:23:42,789 --> 00:23:45,669 Speaker 1: excuse me? Could I buy that hair tongue it came out? 440 00:23:46,909 --> 00:23:50,589 Speaker 1: And those shoes? Yeah? Are they Payless? Because I would 441 00:23:50,749 --> 00:23:53,789 Speaker 1: like those shoes, but mum will only buy me things 442 00:23:53,829 --> 00:23:59,669 Speaker 1: from Payless. Please, Mary Kate Please. The other thing that 443 00:23:59,709 --> 00:24:02,629 Speaker 1: I kind of didn't realize is because to me, I'm 444 00:24:02,669 --> 00:24:06,389 Speaker 1: like New York twins. Don't see where this equation goes wrong? Yeah? Yeah, 445 00:24:06,549 --> 00:24:09,709 Speaker 1: to me, that's the perfect, perfect equation. But they had 446 00:24:09,749 --> 00:24:15,949 Speaker 1: stiff competition because this was the era of icons like 447 00:24:16,109 --> 00:24:19,349 Speaker 1: Mandy Moore, like Hillary not a walk to really remember, 448 00:24:19,709 --> 00:24:22,069 Speaker 1: it was like Hillary Duff like raise your voice. It 449 00:24:22,189 --> 00:24:26,109 Speaker 1: was at the box office the same time as mean Girls. Oof. Yeah, 450 00:24:26,189 --> 00:24:28,949 Speaker 1: that's some competition. Yeah, and that the time that Mangirls 451 00:24:28,949 --> 00:24:30,789 Speaker 1: came out. That day was the day you got your periods. 452 00:24:31,749 --> 00:24:35,189 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah. So we would have been fourteen years old. Yeah. 453 00:24:35,269 --> 00:24:36,909 Speaker 1: I think it would have been traumatic for them because 454 00:24:36,909 --> 00:24:39,149 Speaker 1: they would have been mad at Lindsey because they're like, 455 00:24:39,229 --> 00:24:45,149 Speaker 1: you coz played as twins, you stole our creative ip. Yeah, 456 00:24:45,229 --> 00:24:47,429 Speaker 1: and now you're not even a twin and now you've 457 00:24:47,429 --> 00:24:50,349 Speaker 1: got men girls. Oh my goodness, great point. We saw 458 00:24:50,589 --> 00:24:52,789 Speaker 1: this movie and loved it, and I don't think we 459 00:24:52,829 --> 00:24:56,069 Speaker 1: registered the sexiness. No, it wasn't. Well that was We're 460 00:24:56,109 --> 00:24:59,309 Speaker 1: just confused. But there's a scene where Ashley's character Jane 461 00:24:59,749 --> 00:25:02,869 Speaker 1: dreams she's giving a speech in the nude. There's another 462 00:25:03,029 --> 00:25:07,189 Speaker 1: scene where she encounters her sister's Boa constrictor in the shower, 463 00:25:07,629 --> 00:25:09,909 Speaker 1: which I think we would have been like, oh, how 464 00:25:10,189 --> 00:25:14,549 Speaker 1: scary a snake? You know? Wait, sorry, she encounters her 465 00:25:14,669 --> 00:25:17,949 Speaker 1: sister's snake in the shower. A bit of phallic imagery, 466 00:25:18,149 --> 00:25:21,709 Speaker 1: is it? Yeah, Jeff, Yeah, I think, but whose snake 467 00:25:21,829 --> 00:25:24,869 Speaker 1: is it? Meant to be Mary Kate? But then it's 468 00:25:24,949 --> 00:25:27,549 Speaker 1: not phallic because Mary Kate doesn't have a penis. Yeah, 469 00:25:27,549 --> 00:25:30,189 Speaker 1: but it's a woman in the shower with a snake. 470 00:25:31,909 --> 00:25:35,269 Speaker 1: She's No, I think we're just looking into it too much. 471 00:25:35,309 --> 00:25:37,909 Speaker 1: I think she was just a team girl with a 472 00:25:37,949 --> 00:25:42,149 Speaker 1: pet snake. There's another scene where they're wearing a robe 473 00:25:42,149 --> 00:25:44,789 Speaker 1: and a bath towel and a young male character is like, 474 00:25:44,989 --> 00:25:49,309 Speaker 1: is it my birthday? Oh? I forgot about this thing 475 00:25:49,389 --> 00:25:54,629 Speaker 1: of like the sexualization of twins, Yeah, was like a 476 00:25:54,709 --> 00:25:57,069 Speaker 1: real and it's like sometimes you want to be like, 477 00:25:57,629 --> 00:26:01,549 Speaker 1: can you articulate what the fantasy is ands like twins? 478 00:26:01,669 --> 00:26:05,789 Speaker 1: And you're like, but what's fantasy like twits? It's like, Okay, 479 00:26:05,789 --> 00:26:09,709 Speaker 1: here's the thing. Yeah, you don't know. You don't know, 480 00:26:09,829 --> 00:26:13,749 Speaker 1: don't You've been told, you've been told something to do 481 00:26:13,789 --> 00:26:17,229 Speaker 1: with twins is exciting. Yeah, and you've not thought it through. 482 00:26:17,509 --> 00:26:19,629 Speaker 1: But you know that when you see twins, you're meant 483 00:26:19,709 --> 00:26:22,669 Speaker 1: to yell, gush really yeah. Yeah, And that's what they 484 00:26:22,709 --> 00:26:25,229 Speaker 1: tried to play on in New York Minute. The Washington 485 00:26:25,269 --> 00:26:28,069 Speaker 1: Post said the girls demand to be accepted as both 486 00:26:28,189 --> 00:26:32,069 Speaker 1: wholesome girls next door and lolita like objects worthy of 487 00:26:32,109 --> 00:26:36,069 Speaker 1: a thousand maximum covers. The effect isn't just frenetic, unfunny 488 00:26:36,109 --> 00:26:39,349 Speaker 1: and dull. It's kind of creepy. I love how it says. 489 00:26:39,509 --> 00:26:42,029 Speaker 1: It's like it's them. They want to be considered like that, 490 00:26:42,029 --> 00:26:45,509 Speaker 1: that's what you want of women. They demand and it's like, 491 00:26:45,629 --> 00:26:47,069 Speaker 1: h No, I think they're just trying to like have 492 00:26:47,109 --> 00:26:49,189 Speaker 1: a career, and there's no way to be have a 493 00:26:49,229 --> 00:26:51,949 Speaker 1: career as a woman and not be sexualized. So I 494 00:26:52,029 --> 00:26:55,069 Speaker 1: think they're like getting out of the game. I think 495 00:26:55,109 --> 00:26:58,909 Speaker 1: they're getting, you know, advice, Haters will also say that 496 00:26:58,989 --> 00:27:02,709 Speaker 1: the movie proved they couldn't act. Haters would say that 497 00:27:03,269 --> 00:27:07,909 Speaker 1: I hate haters. Some of the reviews say things like unoriginal, stereotypical, 498 00:27:08,149 --> 00:27:11,469 Speaker 1: just playing horrible, one of my most hate films. The 499 00:27:11,549 --> 00:27:14,829 Speaker 1: thing is, I don't think they ever claimed they could act. 500 00:27:15,029 --> 00:27:18,829 Speaker 1: Like they got their break at eight months old, nine 501 00:27:18,869 --> 00:27:23,429 Speaker 1: months old, when their job was to literally not currently 502 00:27:23,469 --> 00:27:26,029 Speaker 1: be shitting yourself. Yeah. Oh, I think they were probably 503 00:27:26,069 --> 00:27:29,589 Speaker 1: sometimes sitting. Yeah, but like the bar that they had 504 00:27:29,629 --> 00:27:32,669 Speaker 1: to kind of, they never claimed to be able to act, Like, 505 00:27:32,749 --> 00:27:35,109 Speaker 1: I don't know when in all of this, when in 506 00:27:35,509 --> 00:27:38,229 Speaker 1: oh I'm darting off to Rome, Paris and Australia to 507 00:27:38,269 --> 00:27:40,829 Speaker 1: make my movies. Sorry, when are we doing our acting lessons? 508 00:27:41,309 --> 00:27:43,549 Speaker 1: When are we doing a bit of professional development? It 509 00:27:43,589 --> 00:27:46,989 Speaker 1: can't be done. They really learned on the job, it did, 510 00:27:47,509 --> 00:27:50,789 Speaker 1: and they always just played themselves. Yeah, and that was 511 00:27:50,829 --> 00:27:54,029 Speaker 1: okay because we loved there. Yeah. Sometimes they were literally 512 00:27:54,069 --> 00:28:06,429 Speaker 1: just Mary Gate Nash, yeah, but with a different last name, Jesse. 513 00:28:07,029 --> 00:28:10,069 Speaker 1: A feud with Spencer Pratt in two thousand and sevens 514 00:28:10,149 --> 00:28:14,189 Speaker 1: Mencer Pratt claimed to have made fifty thousand dollars by 515 00:28:14,229 --> 00:28:17,189 Speaker 1: selling a photograph of Mary Kate drinking at a party. 516 00:28:17,989 --> 00:28:20,709 Speaker 1: This was important because when he sold it, she was 517 00:28:20,749 --> 00:28:25,349 Speaker 1: like seventeen, so she couldn't legally drink right in the photo, 518 00:28:25,469 --> 00:28:29,189 Speaker 1: she looked either drunk or startled by the camera flash. 519 00:28:29,269 --> 00:28:32,149 Speaker 1: You are probably familiar with the photo, but just look 520 00:28:32,269 --> 00:28:35,629 Speaker 1: to her left. I'm looking at n image. She does 521 00:28:35,749 --> 00:28:37,989 Speaker 1: look to be intoxicated, but like she could also be 522 00:28:38,309 --> 00:28:41,949 Speaker 1: mid blink. Beside her or draping his arm around her 523 00:28:42,109 --> 00:28:45,269 Speaker 1: is bencer Pratt. I believe how did these two cross paths? 524 00:28:45,349 --> 00:28:50,749 Speaker 1: Claire Well, apparently school so they went to. It wasn't 525 00:28:50,789 --> 00:28:53,709 Speaker 1: like a fancy it was like a small private school. 526 00:28:53,869 --> 00:28:55,309 Speaker 1: And it's a bit unclear whether they went to the 527 00:28:55,309 --> 00:28:58,189 Speaker 1: same school or just knew each other through the schools 528 00:28:58,189 --> 00:29:00,789 Speaker 1: that they went to. So on an appearance on The 529 00:29:00,869 --> 00:29:04,109 Speaker 1: Late Show with David Letterman, Mary Kate responded to the photo, 530 00:29:04,349 --> 00:29:06,949 Speaker 1: and she said, he used to play on the soccer 531 00:29:06,989 --> 00:29:09,829 Speaker 1: team for my high school, and he does not have 532 00:29:09,949 --> 00:29:13,989 Speaker 1: a good temper under stage. The goodness tell me about it. 533 00:29:14,109 --> 00:29:17,189 Speaker 1: She said his behavior was a mystery to her. Almost 534 00:29:17,189 --> 00:29:20,669 Speaker 1: immediately he responded in an interview, calling her a troll 535 00:29:21,469 --> 00:29:24,109 Speaker 1: and said she's had to go through life as the 536 00:29:24,189 --> 00:29:30,669 Speaker 1: less cute twin, which must be tough. Spencer practice good 537 00:29:31,829 --> 00:29:35,629 Speaker 1: are you? No one knows who you are? Mate, it's 538 00:29:35,789 --> 00:29:40,389 Speaker 1: just me. You haven't to Heidi when you later met her. 539 00:29:40,429 --> 00:29:44,069 Speaker 1: And of course Spencer Pratt famous from the Hills. Was 540 00:29:44,109 --> 00:29:45,869 Speaker 1: he famous on the Guona Beach. I don't think he 541 00:29:45,989 --> 00:29:48,429 Speaker 1: was the Guna Beach. He was the Hills. And he 542 00:29:48,469 --> 00:29:50,629 Speaker 1: got with Heidi and he was so critical of her 543 00:29:50,789 --> 00:29:53,669 Speaker 1: that she got a new face and we don't address 544 00:29:53,709 --> 00:29:57,109 Speaker 1: that enough as a culture. But her mother cried about 545 00:29:57,109 --> 00:30:00,069 Speaker 1: it because she said, Spencer major, get a new face 546 00:30:00,309 --> 00:30:03,909 Speaker 1: and I liked your old face. And they're still together. Yeah, 547 00:30:04,429 --> 00:30:08,069 Speaker 1: And so he's still a troll. He's still the worst, 548 00:30:08,949 --> 00:30:12,069 Speaker 1: and he's really into Crystal anyway. He has since said, 549 00:30:12,389 --> 00:30:15,229 Speaker 1: I apologize for getting caught up in trash talking, oh, 550 00:30:15,229 --> 00:30:17,949 Speaker 1: because you've never been caught up in that since. But 551 00:30:18,189 --> 00:30:21,309 Speaker 1: she brought up an emotional subject when she mentioned the 552 00:30:21,389 --> 00:30:26,309 Speaker 1: soccer stuff. She literally said, you played on a soccer team, 553 00:30:26,549 --> 00:30:30,629 Speaker 1: don't have a good temper, which is really black and white. True. 554 00:30:31,309 --> 00:30:34,309 Speaker 1: He then said I respect Mary Kate as a businesswoman 555 00:30:34,869 --> 00:30:37,389 Speaker 1: and said he was secretly jealous of her and I 556 00:30:37,469 --> 00:30:40,589 Speaker 1: want my face on a lunchbox too. I feel like 557 00:30:40,589 --> 00:30:43,349 Speaker 1: you're trying to have a job one wants. You will 558 00:30:43,389 --> 00:30:46,469 Speaker 1: never understand, Spencer Pratt how much I wanted Mary Kate's 559 00:30:46,469 --> 00:30:50,389 Speaker 1: face on my lunchbox from the ages of eight yeap 560 00:30:50,749 --> 00:30:53,749 Speaker 1: to fifteen. After thought I would have been ashamed, but 561 00:30:53,909 --> 00:30:56,589 Speaker 1: a lot of work jet setting around the world went 562 00:30:56,629 --> 00:30:59,909 Speaker 1: in to me wanting her face on my lunchbox. Mary 563 00:30:59,949 --> 00:31:03,509 Speaker 1: Kate Olsen struggles In two thousand and four, just after 564 00:31:03,549 --> 00:31:06,389 Speaker 1: graduating from high school and while on the promo trail 565 00:31:06,509 --> 00:31:09,829 Speaker 1: for New York Minute, Mary Kate Olsen enter treatment for 566 00:31:10,109 --> 00:31:14,309 Speaker 1: anorexi inovosa. She's never openly spoken about her eating disorder, 567 00:31:14,389 --> 00:31:17,269 Speaker 1: but her family announced that she was seeking help for 568 00:31:17,349 --> 00:31:20,589 Speaker 1: health related issues, and since there have been all sorts 569 00:31:20,669 --> 00:31:23,829 Speaker 1: of family sources that have come out and said that 570 00:31:23,869 --> 00:31:26,869 Speaker 1: it was an eating disorder. Because my memory of it 571 00:31:27,069 --> 00:31:29,429 Speaker 1: was the Hollywood Walk of Fame and I have it 572 00:31:29,869 --> 00:31:32,469 Speaker 1: imprinted in my memory of her wearing this lilac kind 573 00:31:32,509 --> 00:31:35,669 Speaker 1: of purply dressed. She has dark hair, she's with Ashley Olsen, 574 00:31:35,709 --> 00:31:38,109 Speaker 1: and she's crouching down and she's doing the Hollywood Walk 575 00:31:38,109 --> 00:31:40,669 Speaker 1: of Fame. She looked very different and it was a 576 00:31:40,709 --> 00:31:42,589 Speaker 1: different time because what was the social media, but like 577 00:31:42,629 --> 00:31:46,309 Speaker 1: there was commentary. Those photos were everywhere about how she 578 00:31:46,429 --> 00:31:48,869 Speaker 1: looked like she was suffering from an eating disorder, and 579 00:31:48,909 --> 00:31:53,709 Speaker 1: it was that point where a suspected eating disorder was gossip. Yeah, 580 00:31:53,749 --> 00:31:56,589 Speaker 1: so it was just the magazine. Yes, everyone was like 581 00:31:56,989 --> 00:31:59,909 Speaker 1: they're like feigning concern, but they're actually just reproducing the 582 00:31:59,949 --> 00:32:02,749 Speaker 1: photos over and over and over again. What makes it 583 00:32:02,949 --> 00:32:07,029 Speaker 1: particularly uncomfortable is that there was all sorts of common 584 00:32:07,069 --> 00:32:11,309 Speaker 1: tree about this at the time, and you can imagine 585 00:32:11,309 --> 00:32:15,109 Speaker 1: how hard it must have been to maintain a brave 586 00:32:15,189 --> 00:32:18,789 Speaker 1: face while she was clearly struggling. So on the Oprah 587 00:32:18,829 --> 00:32:21,589 Speaker 1: Winfrey Show in two thousand and four, remember this, Yeah, 588 00:32:21,669 --> 00:32:24,389 Speaker 1: Oprah said, during an interview with the Twins, I know 589 00:32:24,549 --> 00:32:28,429 Speaker 1: a new rumor that's recently surfaced that has really upset you, right, 590 00:32:28,869 --> 00:32:32,509 Speaker 1: you know, the one about eating. Ashley tried to deflect. 591 00:32:32,829 --> 00:32:34,989 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, people are gonna write what they want 592 00:32:34,989 --> 00:32:37,549 Speaker 4: to write. We try not to read the good or 593 00:32:37,589 --> 00:32:40,749 Speaker 4: the bad because it just kind of comes with the territory. 594 00:32:41,029 --> 00:32:43,949 Speaker 4: You know, either you're too fat, you're too skinny, and 595 00:32:43,989 --> 00:32:45,549 Speaker 4: people are just gonna write what they. 596 00:32:45,829 --> 00:32:50,829 Speaker 1: What size are you? By the way size. Yeah, you're. 597 00:32:52,869 --> 00:32:53,309 Speaker 4: Interesting. 598 00:32:53,549 --> 00:32:54,629 Speaker 2: That is so interesting. 599 00:32:54,669 --> 00:32:57,989 Speaker 3: I'm like obsessed with size and you're like, I really 600 00:32:57,989 --> 00:32:58,509 Speaker 3: don't know. 601 00:32:59,629 --> 00:33:01,269 Speaker 1: That's not what they said far out. This is a 602 00:33:01,309 --> 00:33:04,189 Speaker 1: Petri dish of how fucked we all want at that time, 603 00:33:04,589 --> 00:33:07,109 Speaker 1: where everyone's weight was like a direct reflection. I was 604 00:33:07,149 --> 00:33:10,589 Speaker 1: probably still exactly like this, Yeah, Mary Kate's if we 605 00:33:10,589 --> 00:33:12,789 Speaker 1: were obsessed with our size, it'd be I don't know, 606 00:33:13,309 --> 00:33:16,469 Speaker 1: a different story. So that was a really awkward clip 607 00:33:16,469 --> 00:33:19,949 Speaker 1: and it's resurfaced on TikTok and people are always saying 608 00:33:20,389 --> 00:33:22,349 Speaker 1: how times have changed, but I agree, I don't really 609 00:33:22,349 --> 00:33:25,029 Speaker 1: know if they have. I just definitely know that I 610 00:33:25,229 --> 00:33:27,389 Speaker 1: took the day off school that day to watch that 611 00:33:27,429 --> 00:33:30,029 Speaker 1: Oprah and oh yeah, yeah, yeah, because I liked watching Oprah. 612 00:33:30,149 --> 00:33:33,389 Speaker 1: I knew who was on because of the television guide obviously, yep. Yeah. 613 00:33:33,429 --> 00:33:35,229 Speaker 1: If I knew Mary Kate now she were on, yeah, 614 00:33:35,229 --> 00:33:37,629 Speaker 1: I would have been like, Mum, I got temmy ache, 615 00:33:37,949 --> 00:33:43,189 Speaker 1: I gotta watch Ready's deady called. Mary. Kate was also 616 00:33:43,429 --> 00:33:46,309 Speaker 1: rumored to be dating Heath Ledger at the time of 617 00:33:46,349 --> 00:33:48,749 Speaker 1: his death. Other sources have said they were just very 618 00:33:48,749 --> 00:33:51,069 Speaker 1: close friends at the time, but we know that his 619 00:33:51,269 --> 00:33:54,869 Speaker 1: massage therapist who found him called her a number of 620 00:33:54,949 --> 00:33:59,229 Speaker 1: times before contacting the police, and Mary Kate Olsen sent 621 00:33:59,269 --> 00:34:04,549 Speaker 1: a private security guard to the scene. She apparently refused 622 00:34:04,589 --> 00:34:07,309 Speaker 1: to be interviewed by police, and there were claims she 623 00:34:07,309 --> 00:34:11,589 Speaker 1: wouldn't speak to federal investigators without a promise of legal immunity. 624 00:34:12,669 --> 00:34:16,029 Speaker 1: Her attorney said, we have provided the government with relevant information, 625 00:34:16,229 --> 00:34:19,669 Speaker 1: including facts in the chronology of events surrounding mister Ledger's 626 00:34:19,669 --> 00:34:22,429 Speaker 1: death and the fact that miss Olsen does not know 627 00:34:22,509 --> 00:34:27,029 Speaker 1: the source of the drugs mister Ledger consumed. So it's interested. 628 00:34:27,109 --> 00:34:29,709 Speaker 1: She's kind of tied up in that story and sometimes 629 00:34:29,709 --> 00:34:33,469 Speaker 1: you forget how Yeah, but no matter what happened around 630 00:34:33,589 --> 00:34:36,909 Speaker 1: those circumstances, that would have been really traumatic. Yeah, and 631 00:34:36,989 --> 00:34:40,909 Speaker 1: she was still pretty young, yeah yeah, very young privacy. 632 00:34:41,509 --> 00:34:44,509 Speaker 1: Given all of that, it's probably unsurprising that both Mary 633 00:34:44,589 --> 00:34:47,869 Speaker 1: Kate Nashley are very private. They don't have social media, 634 00:34:47,909 --> 00:34:51,149 Speaker 1: and this year during their Fashion Labels show at Paris 635 00:34:51,189 --> 00:34:55,149 Speaker 1: Fashion Week, they emailed guests with a request. They said, 636 00:34:55,149 --> 00:34:58,269 Speaker 1: we kindly ask that you refrain from capturing or sharing 637 00:34:58,429 --> 00:35:03,189 Speaker 1: any content during your experience. In place of phones, guests 638 00:35:03,229 --> 00:35:07,149 Speaker 1: were given Japanese notepads and a pen to take handwritten notes. 639 00:35:07,309 --> 00:35:09,669 Speaker 1: Why Japanese, I don't know. I don't know why that 640 00:35:09,749 --> 00:35:14,349 Speaker 1: detail I was included, but it was okay. Some people 641 00:35:14,429 --> 00:35:16,789 Speaker 1: thought it was great, whereas others, like The New York 642 00:35:16,789 --> 00:35:20,909 Speaker 1: Times chief fashion critic Vanessa Friedman, wrote on Twitter, I 643 00:35:20,949 --> 00:35:23,909 Speaker 1: don't feel that taking some pictures interferes with my ability 644 00:35:23,909 --> 00:35:26,109 Speaker 1: to fully consider what I'm seeing. And I think I'm 645 00:35:26,109 --> 00:35:29,389 Speaker 1: grown up enough to decide that for myself. I don't 646 00:35:29,389 --> 00:35:31,229 Speaker 1: think any of us have grown up to decide for 647 00:35:31,349 --> 00:35:35,109 Speaker 1: ourselves how we use our phones. Okay, why society is 648 00:35:35,149 --> 00:35:39,349 Speaker 1: on the dcline. We need to tell us always to 649 00:35:39,389 --> 00:35:41,549 Speaker 1: put our phones away. We need a ban. We need 650 00:35:41,549 --> 00:35:43,389 Speaker 1: a ban on all of us all of the time. 651 00:35:43,469 --> 00:35:46,669 Speaker 1: I will say, isn't the thing about the fashion week? 652 00:35:46,709 --> 00:35:48,349 Speaker 1: Did take the photos of the clothes and put them 653 00:35:48,389 --> 00:35:51,709 Speaker 1: on Getty? Yeah? And then everyone sees the clothes and 654 00:35:51,749 --> 00:35:53,549 Speaker 1: then it's kind of like an advertiser. And I think 655 00:35:53,549 --> 00:35:57,149 Speaker 1: that there were photos, just not phones. Oh okay, we'll 656 00:35:57,189 --> 00:36:00,429 Speaker 1: just get profet. It's very it's our wedding. Don't take 657 00:36:00,469 --> 00:36:02,909 Speaker 1: a picture of me walking down the aisle looking like 658 00:36:02,949 --> 00:36:05,429 Speaker 1: a hunchback. Yeah, looking ugly? And then post it to 659 00:36:05,469 --> 00:36:08,789 Speaker 1: your two hundred friends before I've told anyone. Yeah, and 660 00:36:09,189 --> 00:36:13,189 Speaker 1: some people found it elitist and exclusive and a bit snobbish. 661 00:36:13,429 --> 00:36:16,069 Speaker 1: You're a fashion week all of those I know. That's 662 00:36:16,109 --> 00:36:20,829 Speaker 1: exactly what I think. I'm like, Guys, look around. This 663 00:36:21,149 --> 00:36:27,629 Speaker 1: is elitist of elite, not the people's people. No One. 664 00:36:27,749 --> 00:36:32,109 Speaker 1: Fashion archivist Kim Russell said, I don't have a The 665 00:36:32,229 --> 00:36:35,069 Speaker 1: Road that's their brand store anywhere near me. There's no 666 00:36:35,149 --> 00:36:37,629 Speaker 1: way I could experience whatever it is they do in person. 667 00:36:37,949 --> 00:36:41,109 Speaker 1: I'd only get that through the internet. They know this. 668 00:36:41,229 --> 00:36:43,909 Speaker 1: It's a move to craft a certain demographic and keep 669 00:36:43,949 --> 00:36:47,549 Speaker 1: it that way. But the exclusiveness is surely the point. 670 00:36:48,149 --> 00:36:51,149 Speaker 1: That's like such a vibe to be like no phones 671 00:36:51,189 --> 00:36:54,109 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my god, what is happening when 672 00:36:54,109 --> 00:36:58,389 Speaker 1: they are no phones? I cannot imagine. They're in a 673 00:36:58,549 --> 00:37:02,909 Speaker 1: ridiculously unique position where they actually don't need social media 674 00:37:02,949 --> 00:37:08,349 Speaker 1: to sell their clothes, Like, isn't that absurd? Confused about 675 00:37:08,469 --> 00:37:10,829 Speaker 1: how they sell their clothes and how Yeah, everyone knows 676 00:37:10,869 --> 00:37:14,309 Speaker 1: about The Row, Yeah, I don't know how. No. The 677 00:37:14,429 --> 00:37:17,789 Speaker 1: Row has an Instagram account with two point five million followers, 678 00:37:18,229 --> 00:37:21,509 Speaker 1: but it doesn't really promote the clothes. It's just like 679 00:37:21,629 --> 00:37:25,309 Speaker 1: random stuff I just need to see immediately, how much 680 00:37:25,389 --> 00:37:27,269 Speaker 1: like if I just go on to the row. Yeah, 681 00:37:27,469 --> 00:37:30,469 Speaker 1: you need to get a sense. Yeah you need a coat? Yeah, 682 00:37:30,589 --> 00:37:32,789 Speaker 1: get you in the market for a coke? Yeah, give 683 00:37:32,829 --> 00:37:35,429 Speaker 1: me a coat. Okay, three thousand, six hundred and fifty 684 00:37:35,669 --> 00:37:39,109 Speaker 1: US dollars. So that's just a cheeky I would say 685 00:37:39,149 --> 00:37:42,429 Speaker 1: seven thousand Aussie. But you don't need a coat because 686 00:37:42,429 --> 00:37:45,549 Speaker 1: it's summer. So let's just go. I think that is 687 00:37:45,589 --> 00:37:47,909 Speaker 1: a T shirt. Yeah, again, they don't do sales. Okay, 688 00:37:47,909 --> 00:37:50,629 Speaker 1: here we go. Here's a great T shirt storn in 689 00:37:50,789 --> 00:37:55,149 Speaker 1: ston in just plain gray, no writing, nothing, nothing. The 690 00:37:55,229 --> 00:38:01,069 Speaker 1: cut doesn't look particularly creative. Do you have three thousand dollars? Okay? 691 00:38:01,069 --> 00:38:03,709 Speaker 1: How can the coke be three thousand dollars because what 692 00:38:03,709 --> 00:38:05,429 Speaker 1: I've done is I put it in Aussie dollars for you. 693 00:38:05,549 --> 00:38:07,669 Speaker 1: Oh okay, so this is one thousand, seven hundred and 694 00:38:07,709 --> 00:38:11,349 Speaker 1: fifty usd bugain, but yeah, we are going to double it. 695 00:38:11,389 --> 00:38:14,189 Speaker 1: Oh they have a lovely loafer. Oh my goodness, we can't. 696 00:38:14,229 --> 00:38:17,069 Speaker 1: I wonder if they've got a return policy. This is fascinating. 697 00:38:17,189 --> 00:38:21,149 Speaker 1: Do you think that when you pay that much for clothes, 698 00:38:21,909 --> 00:38:24,589 Speaker 1: Are they actually better quality? Like when I inevitably shove 699 00:38:24,589 --> 00:38:27,589 Speaker 1: it through my shitty washing machine with my shitty washing powder, 700 00:38:27,909 --> 00:38:30,269 Speaker 1: is it going to get ruined like everything else? Yeah? Absolutely? 701 00:38:30,349 --> 00:38:34,509 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Look at this, Timothy shaalomey shoe. I 702 00:38:34,549 --> 00:38:36,189 Speaker 1: can't stop looking at this. You know how run, says 703 00:38:36,189 --> 00:38:39,069 Speaker 1: Timothy Shaalame looks like a medieval shoe. He looks specifically 704 00:38:39,149 --> 00:38:44,549 Speaker 1: like this shoe. Yeah. Ah, this is amazing. Like, don't 705 00:38:44,549 --> 00:38:46,269 Speaker 1: you worry if I bought any of these there would 706 00:38:46,269 --> 00:38:49,309 Speaker 1: be holes in it? Yeah? Mary very quickly in a 707 00:38:49,349 --> 00:38:52,549 Speaker 1: twenty eleven interview about The Row, when asked about why 708 00:38:52,589 --> 00:38:55,669 Speaker 1: they didn't have social media, Mary Kate said, we spent 709 00:38:55,749 --> 00:38:58,749 Speaker 1: our whole lives trying to not let people have that accessibility, 710 00:38:58,869 --> 00:39:01,789 Speaker 1: so it would go against everything we've done in our lives. 711 00:39:02,389 --> 00:39:06,869 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Olsen also doesn't have Instagram. I wonder if they're clothes. Yeah, no, 712 00:39:06,949 --> 00:39:10,029 Speaker 1: I think they would be, okay, Yeah, And I genuinely 713 00:39:10,229 --> 00:39:13,509 Speaker 1: think it would be very liberating to not have social media. 714 00:39:13,549 --> 00:39:15,549 Speaker 1: And I think it's the heighth of cool. I think 715 00:39:15,549 --> 00:39:17,829 Speaker 1: the coolest people in the world don't have It's just 716 00:39:18,269 --> 00:39:24,709 Speaker 1: Samus Jesse fighting. Apparently the Alsen twins fight, and what 717 00:39:25,709 --> 00:39:28,869 Speaker 1: dad could they fight about? What on earth? It's not 718 00:39:29,229 --> 00:39:33,549 Speaker 1: like twins unknown to fight. In two thousand and eight, 719 00:39:34,029 --> 00:39:37,549 Speaker 1: reports came out that the twins were feuding. This is 720 00:39:37,589 --> 00:39:39,669 Speaker 1: the thing. I see reports come out about twins feuding, 721 00:39:39,709 --> 00:39:43,869 Speaker 1: and I'm like, twins are always feuding, just one constant feud. Yeah, 722 00:39:43,869 --> 00:39:46,149 Speaker 1: it's like they've been fighting. They're in the womb. Even 723 00:39:46,189 --> 00:39:48,069 Speaker 1: the Veronicas they were like, you know, they're feuding. It's 724 00:39:48,109 --> 00:39:50,069 Speaker 1: like really serious. I'm like, yeah, we're in the middle 725 00:39:50,069 --> 00:39:52,669 Speaker 1: of a really serious thing too. We're not gossiping. Yeah, 726 00:39:52,869 --> 00:39:55,269 Speaker 1: And they're like, they're not speaking and it's like, well, no, 727 00:39:55,309 --> 00:39:58,589 Speaker 1: they're not speaking on one medium, and then but they 728 00:39:58,589 --> 00:40:01,109 Speaker 1: are gossiping on another one, the other one. They will 729 00:40:01,149 --> 00:40:05,109 Speaker 1: be fine, don't be fine. They'll be fighting from the 730 00:40:05,189 --> 00:40:08,029 Speaker 1: moment that they shared a womb to the moment they 731 00:40:08,029 --> 00:40:11,669 Speaker 1: are on their shared death. But they will also love 732 00:40:11,669 --> 00:40:15,909 Speaker 1: each other unconditionally. A family insider said, Mary Kate and 733 00:40:15,949 --> 00:40:19,109 Speaker 1: Ashley wrestle for control, and even though they love each other, 734 00:40:19,589 --> 00:40:22,349 Speaker 1: money causes them to argue. I feel like we could 735 00:40:22,429 --> 00:40:25,789 Speaker 1: argue about money more. Yeah, question if Mary Kate is younger. 736 00:40:25,869 --> 00:40:28,269 Speaker 1: Why are we going Mary Kate and Ashley. I don't know. 737 00:40:28,669 --> 00:40:30,589 Speaker 1: I've actually thought about this a lot. I think because 738 00:40:30,629 --> 00:40:33,949 Speaker 1: she's more of the actor, so I think in credits 739 00:40:34,109 --> 00:40:36,149 Speaker 1: so I looked at like, even for their movies and stuff, 740 00:40:36,149 --> 00:40:38,229 Speaker 1: it was always Mary Kate first, and I think it's 741 00:40:38,229 --> 00:40:40,909 Speaker 1: because she did more acting wise, got it, got it, 742 00:40:40,949 --> 00:40:44,229 Speaker 1: she carried the load. So apparently Mary Kate felt as 743 00:40:44,269 --> 00:40:50,029 Speaker 1: though Ashley manipulated her into bad business decisions, which is 744 00:40:50,189 --> 00:40:52,909 Speaker 1: so something we would do. Yeah, it's such a sweet booth. 745 00:40:53,029 --> 00:40:56,189 Speaker 1: For example, they cut their parents out of their production company, 746 00:40:56,669 --> 00:40:59,269 Speaker 1: and Mary Kate was mad with her family after they 747 00:40:59,269 --> 00:41:01,709 Speaker 1: put her into rehab and so she cut them out 748 00:41:01,749 --> 00:41:04,549 Speaker 1: of the business. But a source said that she now 749 00:41:04,629 --> 00:41:07,909 Speaker 1: regrets her decision, and on the other hand, Ashley thinks 750 00:41:07,949 --> 00:41:10,709 Speaker 1: it was the right move. That's what Mary Kate and 751 00:41:10,829 --> 00:41:14,229 Speaker 1: Ashley mainly fight about. That is like the truest thing 752 00:41:14,269 --> 00:41:16,669 Speaker 1: that It's like if you actually drilled down into what 753 00:41:16,669 --> 00:41:19,149 Speaker 1: you're fighting about, it's like you did this thing and 754 00:41:19,189 --> 00:41:20,589 Speaker 1: it's like, no, you did that, And I was like, well, 755 00:41:20,589 --> 00:41:24,229 Speaker 1: I don't think I should have done that. Why didn't 756 00:41:24,229 --> 00:41:25,909 Speaker 1: you stop me? There's like, no, I think you made 757 00:41:25,909 --> 00:41:28,509 Speaker 1: the right choice. Well you're wrong. Yeah, yeah it is. 758 00:41:28,549 --> 00:41:31,749 Speaker 1: And it's always one fight. Yeah, it's just having the 759 00:41:31,789 --> 00:41:34,229 Speaker 1: same fight on loop on loop on loop, and then 760 00:41:34,269 --> 00:41:36,749 Speaker 1: it's like beat, beat beat, you're a selfish piece of shit, 761 00:41:36,909 --> 00:41:38,669 Speaker 1: Like there's something that comes down to, like how you're 762 00:41:38,709 --> 00:41:42,029 Speaker 1: fundamentally flawed as a huge Yes. There were also fights 763 00:41:42,069 --> 00:41:45,389 Speaker 1: over whether to sell their New York City condo. Ashley 764 00:41:45,429 --> 00:41:48,429 Speaker 1: wanted to sell. They argued over it extensively, and then 765 00:41:48,469 --> 00:41:50,789 Speaker 1: when Mary Kate finally gave in and agreed to put 766 00:41:50,789 --> 00:41:56,149 Speaker 1: it up for sale, they argued over the price. Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, 767 00:41:56,709 --> 00:41:59,509 Speaker 1: we had this issue. We were renting. I then moved 768 00:41:59,509 --> 00:42:02,789 Speaker 1: in COVID, I moved in with my partner, and you're like, 769 00:42:02,989 --> 00:42:05,989 Speaker 1: that's annoying. That's annoying because now me and Rory have 770 00:42:06,109 --> 00:42:07,429 Speaker 1: to fuyd a place and it's going to be more 771 00:42:07,469 --> 00:42:10,149 Speaker 1: expensive for us. Exactly right. I also think about the 772 00:42:10,149 --> 00:42:11,949 Speaker 1: fact that when we were moving out of that place, 773 00:42:12,109 --> 00:42:14,829 Speaker 1: you shirked a bit of responsibility. You were absolutely you 774 00:42:14,869 --> 00:42:16,549 Speaker 1: were like I knew I could get away with You're like, 775 00:42:16,629 --> 00:42:18,189 Speaker 1: I've moved out and we're like, we haven't done an 776 00:42:18,349 --> 00:42:20,989 Speaker 1: end of lease clean, Like half your ship's still here. 777 00:42:21,069 --> 00:42:26,029 Speaker 1: Like I remember, like last like just before the end 778 00:42:26,069 --> 00:42:28,709 Speaker 1: of lease, cleanness came. I was doing kind of a 779 00:42:28,789 --> 00:42:31,909 Speaker 1: last look and I opened the microwave and you had 780 00:42:32,029 --> 00:42:37,509 Speaker 1: left like pasta in the microwave like month, and it 781 00:42:37,629 --> 00:42:42,269 Speaker 1: was so, why didn't you opened the microwave. I just 782 00:42:42,309 --> 00:42:44,989 Speaker 1: hadn't used it and used the microwave in six months. 783 00:42:47,069 --> 00:42:53,269 Speaker 1: That he is just one. I picked up the bowl 784 00:42:53,589 --> 00:42:58,229 Speaker 1: and I put it was like done. We are done here, 785 00:42:58,869 --> 00:43:01,349 Speaker 1: A representative said. At the time we were famous, you'd 786 00:43:01,349 --> 00:43:04,269 Speaker 1: have called the New York Post. Yeah, yes, I'd be 787 00:43:04,789 --> 00:43:08,109 Speaker 1: comment about the way that it's it's like a warder 788 00:43:08,269 --> 00:43:11,989 Speaker 1: was living. You would you would dub it. If we 789 00:43:11,989 --> 00:43:15,069 Speaker 1: were famous, I would be dobbing using the paparazzi all 790 00:43:15,269 --> 00:43:18,229 Speaker 1: I reckon. Mom would do some Lencoln. Yeah, I feel 791 00:43:18,229 --> 00:43:19,989 Speaker 1: like you want some gossip. I speak to them for 792 00:43:20,069 --> 00:43:24,829 Speaker 1: five hours a day every day of both sides, and yeah, 793 00:43:24,989 --> 00:43:28,549 Speaker 1: I have an opinion, jess A representative said at the time, 794 00:43:28,669 --> 00:43:31,549 Speaker 1: they do have different ideas, but work things out as 795 00:43:31,589 --> 00:43:35,869 Speaker 1: business partners and sisters. That is boring, and I think 796 00:43:36,149 --> 00:43:40,429 Speaker 1: we have a unique insight into what they'd actually fight about. Okay, 797 00:43:40,469 --> 00:43:42,349 Speaker 1: so here are some ideas what I think they fight 798 00:43:42,389 --> 00:43:47,669 Speaker 1: about close New York Minute, New York Minutte News Voulda Watts. Yeah, 799 00:43:47,789 --> 00:43:50,869 Speaker 1: I think mostly New York Minute. And I think it's 800 00:43:50,949 --> 00:43:54,069 Speaker 1: like you were shit. You made us do it. Yeah, 801 00:43:54,189 --> 00:43:57,349 Speaker 1: you weren't funny. Why didn't you say it was shit 802 00:43:57,429 --> 00:44:01,229 Speaker 1: at the time? Well I knew was shit. Why you 803 00:44:01,229 --> 00:44:03,069 Speaker 1: say it was shit? If I knew you knew it 804 00:44:03,069 --> 00:44:04,829 Speaker 1: was shit, then both of us knew it was shit, 805 00:44:04,829 --> 00:44:06,909 Speaker 1: we wouldn't have done it. Well, Eugene was in it. 806 00:44:07,709 --> 00:44:09,469 Speaker 1: I thought the fact that Eugene was in it meant 807 00:44:09,509 --> 00:44:09,829 Speaker 1: it was good. 808 00:44:09,949 --> 00:44:10,109 Speaker 3: Yeah. 809 00:44:10,149 --> 00:44:11,509 Speaker 1: I just didn't want to upset you, because you know 810 00:44:11,549 --> 00:44:13,869 Speaker 1: you can be very sensitive. Yeah. When I say our 811 00:44:13,909 --> 00:44:17,149 Speaker 1: shared projects are shit, yeah, well you just know they'd 812 00:44:17,149 --> 00:44:19,709 Speaker 1: be messaging at three am and one would be like, ugh, 813 00:44:20,069 --> 00:44:23,749 Speaker 1: remember you were playing it? Who remember that? I reckon that. 814 00:44:23,789 --> 00:44:26,909 Speaker 1: Every six months too, someone goes to make another movie 815 00:44:26,989 --> 00:44:28,869 Speaker 1: and the other one has to talk them down. Yeah, 816 00:44:28,949 --> 00:44:31,949 Speaker 1: but they've definitely considered it, Yeah, like so Little Time 817 00:44:32,389 --> 00:44:35,629 Speaker 1: Part two, Like yeah, yeah, there's places that haven't been 818 00:44:36,269 --> 00:44:39,309 Speaker 1: Like I reckon, they could do like Tokyo, like New 819 00:44:39,349 --> 00:44:42,549 Speaker 1: York Minute, but like Bora Bora yeah, or like Thailand, 820 00:44:42,629 --> 00:44:46,189 Speaker 1: like Peepe Island for example. Great, it's really not them. 821 00:44:46,669 --> 00:44:48,989 Speaker 1: You know how you have this thing We've talked about 822 00:44:48,989 --> 00:44:51,749 Speaker 1: it on the podcast before, where you find a celebrity 823 00:44:51,749 --> 00:44:53,629 Speaker 1: and decide whether or not they traveled to Cooda. Yeah, 824 00:44:53,749 --> 00:44:58,109 Speaker 1: Carl Sanderaland's yes, you recently talked to Missy Higgins. Or 825 00:44:58,109 --> 00:44:59,989 Speaker 1: she wouldn't like Cooter. No, No, I don't think she's 826 00:44:59,989 --> 00:45:01,909 Speaker 1: a Cooter type. That's just the way it is, Mary 827 00:45:01,989 --> 00:45:05,949 Speaker 1: Kay Ashley. They would loathe Coudah. They wouldn't. They wouldn't 828 00:45:06,029 --> 00:45:09,069 Speaker 1: step off the foot lane. They I mean, I don't 829 00:45:09,109 --> 00:45:11,549 Speaker 1: even think that Barley's an I guess maybe at Lua Tu, 830 00:45:11,949 --> 00:45:16,269 Speaker 1: but not even Semoniac. No, not Cooda. They'd say these 831 00:45:16,389 --> 00:45:21,109 Speaker 1: clothes are to no that the elements yeah will ruin. 832 00:45:21,629 --> 00:45:25,749 Speaker 1: This gray T shirt worth more than most people's rent. Yeah, Jesse, 833 00:45:25,869 --> 00:45:33,709 Speaker 1: it's time for charges and sentences. My charge. Unsurprisingly, New 834 00:45:33,789 --> 00:45:37,189 Speaker 1: York Minute, we should watch that again. No, we actually 835 00:45:37,189 --> 00:45:40,549 Speaker 1: really should. Well, I watched a lot of it in prep. 836 00:45:40,789 --> 00:45:43,309 Speaker 1: We should remake up, but we asked, Okay, So the 837 00:45:43,349 --> 00:45:46,629 Speaker 1: thing about New York Minute is that so Mary Kate, 838 00:45:46,629 --> 00:45:49,669 Speaker 1: where let me going? Okay, because I did, I know 839 00:45:50,349 --> 00:45:54,229 Speaker 1: because they feel rushed. Okay, Yeah, so they live up state, No, 840 00:45:54,309 --> 00:45:57,469 Speaker 1: they live in Long Island, and they both have different 841 00:45:57,549 --> 00:45:59,229 Speaker 1: reasons why they want to go to New York for 842 00:45:59,269 --> 00:46:04,149 Speaker 1: the day. For Ashley's character Jane, it's something to do 843 00:46:04,229 --> 00:46:09,909 Speaker 1: with Columbia University. For Mary Kate's character Roxy, it's something 844 00:46:09,909 --> 00:46:15,909 Speaker 1: to do with simple plan, the actual bad, the actual 845 00:46:15,949 --> 00:46:19,309 Speaker 1: bound to which I don't know that got criticized. They're 846 00:46:19,309 --> 00:46:22,309 Speaker 1: like coming over from like the seventh first band of 847 00:46:22,349 --> 00:46:28,269 Speaker 1: the time. I'd say they were third. They were on Yeah, 848 00:46:28,309 --> 00:46:30,389 Speaker 1: I saw Green Day supported by a simple plan. 849 00:46:30,509 --> 00:46:30,789 Speaker 4: Wow. 850 00:46:31,069 --> 00:46:34,429 Speaker 1: Yeah. So they go to New York and they've got 851 00:46:34,469 --> 00:46:37,349 Speaker 1: like these kind of goals they want to achieve while 852 00:46:37,389 --> 00:46:39,949 Speaker 1: they're there. Yeah, and it's always like, oh, they have 853 00:46:40,029 --> 00:46:41,949 Speaker 1: to sub in for each other, pretend to be the 854 00:46:41,989 --> 00:46:47,109 Speaker 1: other one, Yadi yadi, right. And Roxy is being chased 855 00:46:47,109 --> 00:46:52,069 Speaker 1: by Eugene Levy, who is a detective. Right, don't you reckon? 856 00:46:52,109 --> 00:46:53,789 Speaker 1: I want to put a pin, you know how, Like 857 00:46:53,949 --> 00:46:57,389 Speaker 1: there are certain tropes in dramas, So it's like, for example, 858 00:46:57,509 --> 00:46:59,269 Speaker 1: no more mum and Dad were killed in the carracks. 859 00:46:59,509 --> 00:47:01,469 Speaker 1: Let's just put a line under that. No, I'm more 860 00:47:01,509 --> 00:47:04,149 Speaker 1: twins swapping, I think I think we've done. I think, 861 00:47:04,269 --> 00:47:06,389 Speaker 1: but then where's the fun? I think there are more 862 00:47:06,389 --> 00:47:08,949 Speaker 1: to twins, and I think that we're being stigmatized and 863 00:47:09,029 --> 00:47:12,629 Speaker 1: pigeonholed by being given one storyline and it's always about 864 00:47:12,629 --> 00:47:16,309 Speaker 1: being it's always about doing a swap season. There are 865 00:47:16,349 --> 00:47:21,069 Speaker 1: other tricks we can make and it's not always just swapping. Okay, well, yeah, 866 00:47:21,269 --> 00:47:23,829 Speaker 1: my charge is New York Minute, which I watched a 867 00:47:23,829 --> 00:47:27,469 Speaker 1: lot of clips of my sentence. I want to redo 868 00:47:28,269 --> 00:47:31,109 Speaker 1: of New York min Yes, okay, And I think that 869 00:47:31,269 --> 00:47:33,029 Speaker 1: the way they can make it worth their while because 870 00:47:33,069 --> 00:47:35,869 Speaker 1: I get it from their perspective, they're getting nothing out 871 00:47:35,909 --> 00:47:38,109 Speaker 1: of it. I think they were burnt out. Yeah they 872 00:47:38,189 --> 00:47:41,869 Speaker 1: made it. Yeah, No, definitely. I think that it should 873 00:47:41,949 --> 00:47:45,629 Speaker 1: just be like one big ad for the Row. So 874 00:47:45,949 --> 00:47:49,429 Speaker 1: in the original movie, a big thing was their fashion. 875 00:47:49,829 --> 00:47:55,229 Speaker 1: So Jane Ashley was very like Priven, proper pink suits, 876 00:47:55,469 --> 00:47:59,749 Speaker 1: high heels, yep, Mary Kate Roxy was skater girl. She 877 00:47:59,829 --> 00:48:02,669 Speaker 1: gives a speech pretending to be Jane, and she quotes 878 00:48:02,669 --> 00:48:08,189 Speaker 1: Avri Levine, It's complicated love complicated whatever that song is anyway, 879 00:48:08,589 --> 00:48:12,309 Speaker 1: So I think it's another fashion moment. For the girls. 880 00:48:13,149 --> 00:48:16,029 Speaker 1: But it's the Row but more evolved, and it's just basic. 881 00:48:16,069 --> 00:48:20,429 Speaker 1: And they're wearing like medieval shoes, running running through New 882 00:48:20,509 --> 00:48:22,909 Speaker 1: York and their medieval yeah yeah. And the lovely thing 883 00:48:23,029 --> 00:48:28,909 Speaker 1: is I don't think Eugene's gonna come back. I have done. 884 00:48:29,109 --> 00:48:31,269 Speaker 1: I've moved on to bigger remember, yes, yeah, but you 885 00:48:31,309 --> 00:48:35,509 Speaker 1: know who will. That's sister Elizabeth. They're gonna guilt her 886 00:48:36,069 --> 00:48:38,589 Speaker 1: because she's really high. They respected. Yeah, and I reckon 887 00:48:38,589 --> 00:48:41,469 Speaker 1: their brother's free trail yeah yeah, yeah, whatever his name, 888 00:48:41,549 --> 00:48:45,149 Speaker 1: So I reckon. They've got plenty of people to make Yeah, 889 00:48:45,309 --> 00:48:50,109 Speaker 1: New York minute two love love Okay, And I just 890 00:48:50,229 --> 00:48:54,189 Speaker 1: think you need to correct the damage. This is linked, 891 00:48:54,349 --> 00:48:57,549 Speaker 1: so your comment back fashion is linked to my charge, 892 00:48:58,029 --> 00:49:01,629 Speaker 1: which is that the Olsome Twins are charge I am 893 00:49:01,669 --> 00:49:05,469 Speaker 1: giving them is that they made us all believe that 894 00:49:05,549 --> 00:49:09,149 Speaker 1: Bojo Sheik worked on all of us. Yeah, and Boho 895 00:49:09,229 --> 00:49:12,069 Speaker 1: Sheik works on none of us. Okay, no, none, no no. 896 00:49:12,629 --> 00:49:15,269 Speaker 1: And Poo Cheek was actually like a little bit I 897 00:49:15,269 --> 00:49:18,149 Speaker 1: don't know. They were very like smoking. They were like smoking. 898 00:49:18,149 --> 00:49:20,949 Speaker 1: It was like oversized and like long skirts and everything, 899 00:49:20,989 --> 00:49:23,669 Speaker 1: and they always looked like a very cheap but very boho, 900 00:49:24,429 --> 00:49:27,349 Speaker 1: and it's like, now I know that that outfit costs 901 00:49:27,349 --> 00:49:30,709 Speaker 1: you ten thousand dollars, so that's why I look poor. Yes, 902 00:49:30,869 --> 00:49:33,389 Speaker 1: I'm trying to look like you and this is all 903 00:49:33,749 --> 00:49:39,669 Speaker 1: genuinely thrifted. Yeah, and it smells like someone else's be okay, 904 00:49:40,469 --> 00:49:42,669 Speaker 1: because I was trying to be you, and it's like 905 00:49:42,709 --> 00:49:45,069 Speaker 1: they you look at them and think that it's this 906 00:49:45,189 --> 00:49:48,709 Speaker 1: really like undone messy look. No, and like you have 907 00:49:48,709 --> 00:49:51,029 Speaker 1: a dry cleaner, that's why you look better. And all 908 00:49:51,069 --> 00:49:54,789 Speaker 1: of my clothes have literal holes in it. My sentence 909 00:49:55,069 --> 00:49:59,269 Speaker 1: is I would like to be mentored by the Olsen 910 00:49:59,309 --> 00:50:03,549 Speaker 1: Twins personally about what like a twin mentor program. But 911 00:50:03,589 --> 00:50:05,869 Speaker 1: it's just us and the Olsen Twins. Oh my gosh. 912 00:50:05,909 --> 00:50:09,589 Speaker 1: That's actually so true about like business, I don't know, 913 00:50:10,189 --> 00:50:13,629 Speaker 1: maybe just about like okay, okay, you know how there's 914 00:50:13,669 --> 00:50:17,029 Speaker 1: all those like workshops that are like manifestation all of that. Yeah, 915 00:50:17,069 --> 00:50:20,429 Speaker 1: it's like living your best twin life, winning your best 916 00:50:20,469 --> 00:50:23,189 Speaker 1: twin life. Yeah, but it's just us. I just feel 917 00:50:23,189 --> 00:50:27,389 Speaker 1: like there needs to be more of a Twins Yeah, 918 00:50:27,429 --> 00:50:30,669 Speaker 1: because we obviously spoke at Twins first, you'd know that, listener. 919 00:50:31,309 --> 00:50:33,869 Speaker 1: It's like a friends pass out about it all the time. Yeah, 920 00:50:33,909 --> 00:50:36,309 Speaker 1: but I say it's creepy, but you know, we really 921 00:50:36,389 --> 00:50:39,389 Speaker 1: enjoyed it anyway. Yeah, we networked with some twins. Yeah, 922 00:50:39,429 --> 00:50:42,869 Speaker 1: and we don't have enough of a twin community. And 923 00:50:42,949 --> 00:50:46,069 Speaker 1: twins are a bit weird. Yeah, and the Awesome Twins 924 00:50:46,109 --> 00:50:50,189 Speaker 1: are just very twinny and just given how twin nish 925 00:50:50,349 --> 00:50:52,429 Speaker 1: their lives have been, I think they should be advocates 926 00:50:52,469 --> 00:50:54,869 Speaker 1: for the community. Exactly right. I would really like that. 927 00:50:54,949 --> 00:50:56,909 Speaker 1: I would like to be mentored by the Awesome Twins. 928 00:50:56,949 --> 00:50:59,149 Speaker 1: I'll put that out into the universe. Yeah, Jesse, do 929 00:50:59,189 --> 00:51:00,149 Speaker 1: you have a lazy girl story? 930 00:51:00,189 --> 00:51:00,389 Speaker 3: I do? 931 00:51:00,469 --> 00:51:02,309 Speaker 1: Before we go, I do have a lazy girl story. 932 00:51:02,469 --> 00:51:04,749 Speaker 1: This is unlike any other lazy girl story I've ever had. 933 00:51:04,869 --> 00:51:09,069 Speaker 1: Oh wow, this is from Sarah. And Sarah is an Olympian. Okay, 934 00:51:09,509 --> 00:51:12,829 Speaker 1: And Sarah shout to us, and she's sound very lazy. 935 00:51:13,109 --> 00:51:17,749 Speaker 1: I know. She said, I am a two time Olympian 936 00:51:18,309 --> 00:51:20,069 Speaker 1: and I identify as a lazy girl. 937 00:51:20,149 --> 00:51:20,429 Speaker 3: Wow. 938 00:51:20,469 --> 00:51:23,589 Speaker 1: And I basically replied to her, you can go fuck off. Okay. Yeah, 939 00:51:23,749 --> 00:51:27,269 Speaker 1: you obviously do not understand the definition. She said that 940 00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:30,069 Speaker 1: she had to train three times a day, six days 941 00:51:30,109 --> 00:51:32,709 Speaker 1: a week, fifty weeks of the year. Oh my god, 942 00:51:33,269 --> 00:51:36,469 Speaker 1: for well over a decade. This was in rowing, right. Oh, 943 00:51:36,509 --> 00:51:39,149 Speaker 1: but she said that's a legit sport too. It's legit, 944 00:51:39,309 --> 00:51:42,509 Speaker 1: and I think it's no offense, ray gun, but it's 945 00:51:42,589 --> 00:51:45,269 Speaker 1: not breaking, it's not, it's not. And she said that 946 00:51:45,309 --> 00:51:47,509 Speaker 1: when she gets home she will not check the letterbox 947 00:51:47,829 --> 00:51:49,709 Speaker 1: because I have to go inside and get the key 948 00:51:49,789 --> 00:51:53,269 Speaker 1: and come back out again. And therefore she's a lazy girl. 949 00:51:53,869 --> 00:51:55,269 Speaker 1: And I wanted to bring this to you because I 950 00:51:55,269 --> 00:51:57,829 Speaker 1: want to say, like, are we accepting this kind of 951 00:51:57,829 --> 00:52:02,189 Speaker 1: self identification? Okay, you know what, yes, because one thing 952 00:52:02,189 --> 00:52:04,509 Speaker 1: about lazy girls is that they may be thriving in 953 00:52:04,549 --> 00:52:06,789 Speaker 1: one aspect of their life. Well, what defines a lazy 954 00:52:06,829 --> 00:52:13,549 Speaker 1: girl is laziness in something that is like so lazy, 955 00:52:13,949 --> 00:52:18,309 Speaker 1: you know, like the letter box is like theoretic laziness 956 00:52:18,349 --> 00:52:20,109 Speaker 1: is a way of life. And I just feel like, 957 00:52:20,189 --> 00:52:22,909 Speaker 1: in terms of her attitude and her approach, like I 958 00:52:23,069 --> 00:52:26,749 Speaker 1: accept and I hope she's on a medal. Here's a thing. 959 00:52:27,509 --> 00:52:33,469 Speaker 1: It's almost like she's done the rowing Olympic career. Yeah, 960 00:52:34,109 --> 00:52:37,589 Speaker 1: so she doesn't have to go to the letter she's 961 00:52:37,629 --> 00:52:40,909 Speaker 1: doing that to get an excuse from doing the less 962 00:52:40,909 --> 00:52:43,309 Speaker 1: fun thinking of him life. Yeah, exactly right, which is 963 00:52:43,429 --> 00:52:47,149 Speaker 1: very lazy girl making poor decisions. I love it. I 964 00:52:47,189 --> 00:52:50,229 Speaker 1: love it. Sarah, you are one of us. Yes, Jesse, 965 00:52:50,389 --> 00:52:53,789 Speaker 1: that's all we've got time for on Canceled today. Thank 966 00:52:53,829 --> 00:52:55,669 Speaker 1: you so much for joining us. We will be back 967 00:52:55,869 --> 00:52:59,949 Speaker 1: next week. The executive producer of Canceled is Kim Bradish, 968 00:53:00,029 --> 00:53:03,709 Speaker 1: with audio production by Leah Porges. We will be back 969 00:53:03,789 --> 00:53:12,029 Speaker 1: next week. Bye bye.