1 00:00:10,745 --> 00:00:15,265 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mama Mia acknowledges 2 00:00:15,345 --> 00:00:18,385 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast 3 00:00:18,465 --> 00:00:23,105 Speaker 1: is recorded on hands down favorite favorite favorite favorite favorite 4 00:00:23,385 --> 00:00:25,745 Speaker 1: conditioner and shampoo comes out like silk. 5 00:00:26,505 --> 00:00:28,025 Speaker 2: Makeup is my therapy. 6 00:00:28,265 --> 00:00:32,025 Speaker 1: I'm obsessed and I don't even feel guilty a body. 7 00:00:33,985 --> 00:00:37,425 Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to you Beauty the daily podcast for 8 00:00:37,545 --> 00:00:40,865 Speaker 2: Your Face. I'm Lucy Neville and this is in Her Bag, 9 00:00:40,945 --> 00:00:43,065 Speaker 2: where I sit down with one of the biggest names 10 00:00:43,065 --> 00:00:46,385 Speaker 2: in beauty and snoop through their makeup bag. Today we're 11 00:00:46,425 --> 00:00:50,585 Speaker 2: sitting down with Ossie, American actress, director, author, model, and 12 00:00:50,705 --> 00:00:54,265 Speaker 2: singer Taman Cursock. You probably saw her on your screen 13 00:00:54,305 --> 00:00:57,265 Speaker 2: growing up on Hannah Montana, So Cool, The Young and 14 00:00:57,305 --> 00:00:59,985 Speaker 2: the Restless, or Home and Away, or perhaps you know 15 00:01:00,065 --> 00:01:02,625 Speaker 2: her from Pretty Little Liars where she played Jenna. 16 00:01:04,305 --> 00:01:05,865 Speaker 1: I may not be able to see, but I can 17 00:01:05,985 --> 00:01:09,225 Speaker 1: smell a bitch of allowing the words ambience, triddle, dumb. 18 00:01:09,665 --> 00:01:12,065 Speaker 1: I'm going to use big words, get it right. I 19 00:01:12,145 --> 00:01:14,585 Speaker 1: still can't believe that guy I would own my best 20 00:01:14,625 --> 00:01:18,105 Speaker 1: friend's wedding twenty seven dresses and Mamma Mia. 21 00:01:18,225 --> 00:01:21,825 Speaker 2: Since then, her career in entertainment has continued to skyrocket. 22 00:01:22,065 --> 00:01:25,425 Speaker 2: She recently branched into the podcasting space with Pretty Little Liars, 23 00:01:25,505 --> 00:01:28,665 Speaker 2: True Crime, and her new show, The Shit Show, which 24 00:01:28,705 --> 00:01:32,225 Speaker 2: shares candid conversations with celebrities from around the globe. I 25 00:01:32,265 --> 00:01:34,625 Speaker 2: can't wait to hear about her career in the entertainment 26 00:01:34,625 --> 00:01:38,025 Speaker 2: industry and how her perspective on beauty has changed over time. 27 00:01:38,105 --> 00:01:40,385 Speaker 2: I also asked for some hair care faves because her 28 00:01:40,425 --> 00:01:43,145 Speaker 2: hair is stunning. Okay, let's do this, Ubie's. 29 00:01:43,865 --> 00:01:46,505 Speaker 1: I had to find the liner in my bag? What's 30 00:01:46,505 --> 00:01:47,025 Speaker 1: in the back. 31 00:01:50,225 --> 00:01:51,985 Speaker 2: Hamon. We're so excited to have you. 32 00:01:52,185 --> 00:01:54,225 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I'm so excited to be here. 33 00:01:54,545 --> 00:01:57,625 Speaker 2: If you had to describe your makeup style in free words, 34 00:01:57,705 --> 00:01:58,305 Speaker 2: what would they be? 35 00:01:59,105 --> 00:02:07,785 Speaker 1: Inconsistent, natural, and obvious. I think when I was younger, 36 00:02:08,305 --> 00:02:11,465 Speaker 1: I used to really care about how I presented myself 37 00:02:11,505 --> 00:02:13,305 Speaker 1: in the world. And it's not that I don't now 38 00:02:13,385 --> 00:02:16,985 Speaker 1: it's just not as much of a priority. But I 39 00:02:16,985 --> 00:02:19,345 Speaker 1: would say makeup, I only do it when I'm trying 40 00:02:19,385 --> 00:02:22,185 Speaker 1: to feel like I want to be sexy or I 41 00:02:22,305 --> 00:02:25,305 Speaker 1: just want to not look so exhausted on the camera. 42 00:02:26,305 --> 00:02:28,385 Speaker 2: And you said obvious. Do you go for like a 43 00:02:28,425 --> 00:02:30,545 Speaker 2: bright lip. Do you go for lots of blush? Like, 44 00:02:30,585 --> 00:02:31,345 Speaker 2: what are your gaves? 45 00:02:31,425 --> 00:02:33,225 Speaker 1: It's just very obvious. I always wear the same thing. 46 00:02:33,225 --> 00:02:35,065 Speaker 1: I do change up my lip a bit, but I 47 00:02:35,065 --> 00:02:36,545 Speaker 1: would say it's just the same thing. 48 00:02:36,985 --> 00:02:40,225 Speaker 2: How has the way that you do your makeup changed 49 00:02:40,345 --> 00:02:40,865 Speaker 2: over time? 50 00:02:41,105 --> 00:02:44,265 Speaker 1: Yes, I would say it's changed because I used to 51 00:02:44,305 --> 00:02:46,745 Speaker 1: wear a lot of makeup when I was younger, which 52 00:02:46,785 --> 00:02:48,545 Speaker 1: I look back and I think that's when you're supposed 53 00:02:48,585 --> 00:02:51,225 Speaker 1: to wear very little makeup because you have such nice 54 00:02:51,265 --> 00:02:54,745 Speaker 1: skin and everything's very tight. I would say that I 55 00:02:54,865 --> 00:02:57,505 Speaker 1: used to think that wearing lots of makeup for auditions 56 00:02:57,745 --> 00:03:01,145 Speaker 1: and going out was how I looked my best. So 57 00:03:01,265 --> 00:03:03,585 Speaker 1: I definitely do not cake it on like I used to. 58 00:03:04,225 --> 00:03:07,665 Speaker 1: Less is more dewey skin. I want to see the 59 00:03:07,705 --> 00:03:10,465 Speaker 1: pores of my skin. I don't one like a full 60 00:03:10,505 --> 00:03:13,545 Speaker 1: coverage foundation, So I would definitely say that I'm just 61 00:03:13,665 --> 00:03:17,825 Speaker 1: not leaning into that sexified version that I did when 62 00:03:17,865 --> 00:03:18,425 Speaker 1: I was younger. 63 00:03:19,585 --> 00:03:21,265 Speaker 2: What do you look for in a makeup product? 64 00:03:21,345 --> 00:03:23,705 Speaker 1: The ingredients are important. I think as I get older 65 00:03:23,705 --> 00:03:25,585 Speaker 1: and I'm more aware of what I put in my 66 00:03:25,625 --> 00:03:28,225 Speaker 1: body and on my body, that's really important to me. 67 00:03:28,545 --> 00:03:31,745 Speaker 1: So that's like my number one. Number two is I 68 00:03:31,865 --> 00:03:35,705 Speaker 1: just don't like things to feel greasy. I funnily enough, 69 00:03:35,745 --> 00:03:38,305 Speaker 1: even though I'm getting older, I still have tons of 70 00:03:38,305 --> 00:03:41,705 Speaker 1: breakouts when there's oil in products. So if my foundation 71 00:03:41,825 --> 00:03:43,745 Speaker 1: is too much oil in it, or my concealers or 72 00:03:43,785 --> 00:03:47,545 Speaker 1: anything like that, I really don't like to lean into that. 73 00:03:48,185 --> 00:03:52,105 Speaker 1: And then I'm also looking for products that quality now 74 00:03:52,425 --> 00:03:57,945 Speaker 1: over quantity, and I'd rather have a few really nice 75 00:03:58,025 --> 00:04:03,425 Speaker 1: products than tons of crappy ones. I'd rather invest in those. So, yeah, 76 00:04:03,465 --> 00:04:04,585 Speaker 1: those are the things I'm looking for. 77 00:04:05,105 --> 00:04:08,145 Speaker 2: I love that. And I'm also curious about makeup when 78 00:04:08,185 --> 00:04:11,465 Speaker 2: you're on screen and perhaps it's being like applied by 79 00:04:11,505 --> 00:04:14,465 Speaker 2: a makeup artist. What are the differences in kind of 80 00:04:14,505 --> 00:04:17,385 Speaker 2: your day to day makeup, which obviously you like to 81 00:04:17,385 --> 00:04:20,225 Speaker 2: be quite minimal, and then on screen is there more 82 00:04:20,265 --> 00:04:23,225 Speaker 2: makeup than it appears when we're watching it on TV? 83 00:04:23,505 --> 00:04:26,625 Speaker 1: Yeah, depends on the show, I would say. And I 84 00:04:26,665 --> 00:04:30,225 Speaker 1: started on Young the Restless, Hannah Montana, Pretty Little Liars, 85 00:04:30,545 --> 00:04:33,745 Speaker 1: those types of TV shows. I'd say Young the Restless 86 00:04:33,785 --> 00:04:36,465 Speaker 1: for sure, and Home and Away. More makeup on those 87 00:04:36,505 --> 00:04:39,585 Speaker 1: shows than pre Law Liars, Prttle Liars. I had sunglasses 88 00:04:39,625 --> 00:04:42,185 Speaker 1: on because my character was visually impaired, so they actually 89 00:04:42,185 --> 00:04:43,865 Speaker 1: didn't do my e makeup. I just used to rock 90 00:04:43,945 --> 00:04:46,265 Speaker 1: up and they would just put some foundation on, and 91 00:04:46,265 --> 00:04:49,425 Speaker 1: I said, please give me some mascara because I just like, 92 00:04:49,465 --> 00:04:51,145 Speaker 1: when I take my glasses off, I want to like 93 00:04:51,225 --> 00:04:54,225 Speaker 1: just feel good. But yeah, they definitely cake it on 94 00:04:54,425 --> 00:04:58,225 Speaker 1: for certain shows, and then when you are on the 95 00:04:58,265 --> 00:05:00,665 Speaker 1: Today's Show or whatever, they definitely put more makeup on. 96 00:05:01,065 --> 00:05:05,545 Speaker 1: But I would say, as makeup evolved and as HD 97 00:05:05,905 --> 00:05:09,305 Speaker 1: and cameras evolve, you can kind of see that makeup 98 00:05:09,305 --> 00:05:12,225 Speaker 1: and you can see too much powder. So I do 99 00:05:12,305 --> 00:05:14,785 Speaker 1: feel like as our industry evolves, sort of is the 100 00:05:14,825 --> 00:05:17,625 Speaker 1: makeup and now it's much more dewey and light and 101 00:05:17,705 --> 00:05:19,225 Speaker 1: natural and not as heavy. 102 00:05:19,585 --> 00:05:22,185 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, I completely agree. I feel like we used 103 00:05:22,185 --> 00:05:25,745 Speaker 2: to see very big, bold glam and now I think 104 00:05:25,865 --> 00:05:29,385 Speaker 2: the skinnification of makeup and all those skincare ingredients and 105 00:05:29,585 --> 00:05:31,825 Speaker 2: glowy bases and all that kind of stuff is very 106 00:05:31,905 --> 00:05:35,825 Speaker 2: much the thing. So let's get into your favorite makeup products. 107 00:05:36,345 --> 00:05:37,665 Speaker 3: My favorite. 108 00:05:38,705 --> 00:05:41,145 Speaker 2: Talk to me about your favorite foundation. Why do you 109 00:05:41,225 --> 00:05:41,665 Speaker 2: love it? 110 00:05:41,905 --> 00:05:46,705 Speaker 1: My favorite foundation is Georgia Our Money. It is my 111 00:05:46,785 --> 00:05:49,265 Speaker 1: favorite one that I've ever found I would like to 112 00:05:49,305 --> 00:05:51,665 Speaker 1: find a clean foundation that is non toxic, but I 113 00:05:51,705 --> 00:05:55,305 Speaker 1: haven't found when yet that does what Georgia Mney foundation does. 114 00:05:55,665 --> 00:05:58,425 Speaker 1: You can actually get the foundation and lots of different types, 115 00:05:58,465 --> 00:06:00,585 Speaker 1: but the one that I use is the luminous silk. 116 00:06:00,745 --> 00:06:03,305 Speaker 2: And do you apply with a blender brush fingers? 117 00:06:03,545 --> 00:06:07,065 Speaker 1: I apply with all three. I just bought a new 118 00:06:07,185 --> 00:06:09,945 Speaker 1: brush from Mecca, which is great. It's like their foundation brush. 119 00:06:09,985 --> 00:06:11,825 Speaker 1: I use that and then sometimes I use my fingers. 120 00:06:11,825 --> 00:06:13,625 Speaker 1: It's honestly whatever I feel for the day. 121 00:06:13,985 --> 00:06:16,665 Speaker 2: And do you use a concealer after you use foundation 122 00:06:16,745 --> 00:06:18,385 Speaker 2: or do you go straight to kind of cheke products? 123 00:06:18,465 --> 00:06:22,505 Speaker 1: I always use concealer, especially under my eyes and near 124 00:06:22,585 --> 00:06:25,105 Speaker 1: the sides of my nose, just to give my eyes 125 00:06:25,105 --> 00:06:26,745 Speaker 1: just a little bit of a lift and my nose 126 00:06:26,745 --> 00:06:30,985 Speaker 1: a little more shape. I do like the Islaurant concealer. 127 00:06:31,105 --> 00:06:33,025 Speaker 1: I do love that one, and there's a good one 128 00:06:33,065 --> 00:06:35,305 Speaker 1: from Tart as well. They do some good concealers. 129 00:06:35,385 --> 00:06:37,505 Speaker 2: Or the shape tape, Yeah, I think so that's what 130 00:06:37,585 --> 00:06:39,905 Speaker 2: it's talk to me about. Cheeks. Do you like Bronza 131 00:06:40,065 --> 00:06:41,985 Speaker 2: blush highlight? What is your vibe? 132 00:06:42,105 --> 00:06:44,225 Speaker 1: I definitely like cheeks. I like as you can see 133 00:06:44,225 --> 00:06:45,905 Speaker 1: a little bit more of a pinky cheek. I will 134 00:06:45,905 --> 00:06:49,225 Speaker 1: always put on a Bronza. My hourglass bronzer is my favorite. 135 00:06:49,505 --> 00:06:52,825 Speaker 1: I use westmin Attilie is my new brand that I'm 136 00:06:52,865 --> 00:06:55,145 Speaker 1: obsessed with. It is a little more expensive. It is 137 00:06:55,185 --> 00:06:58,825 Speaker 1: a non toxic, clean brand. It is an investment, but 138 00:06:58,865 --> 00:07:01,625 Speaker 1: it's worth the investment. I never break out. It feels 139 00:07:01,625 --> 00:07:03,225 Speaker 1: good on my skin. What I have on now, I 140 00:07:03,225 --> 00:07:05,665 Speaker 1: have the westmin Attilia cheek, but I also put it 141 00:07:05,665 --> 00:07:08,785 Speaker 1: on my lips. They have a foundation stick which is 142 00:07:08,825 --> 00:07:11,545 Speaker 1: also a shading that I shade my nose with. And 143 00:07:11,585 --> 00:07:14,745 Speaker 1: they have an amazing all over sort of bronzer that's 144 00:07:14,825 --> 00:07:16,665 Speaker 1: wet that you can open up and put on your 145 00:07:16,705 --> 00:07:19,865 Speaker 1: eyes or like cheeks or anything like that. I love 146 00:07:19,945 --> 00:07:21,065 Speaker 1: their products so much so. 147 00:07:21,145 --> 00:07:23,145 Speaker 2: Your cheek product at the moment you've used on your lips, 148 00:07:23,185 --> 00:07:25,225 Speaker 2: is it a stick or like a cream formula? 149 00:07:25,465 --> 00:07:27,385 Speaker 1: It's a cream, but in a stick form. 150 00:07:27,665 --> 00:07:30,625 Speaker 2: It looks beautiful. Talk to me about your favorite mascara. 151 00:07:30,745 --> 00:07:33,105 Speaker 2: What do you look for in a mascar not clumpy? 152 00:07:33,385 --> 00:07:35,825 Speaker 1: I know that that sounds like it's an easy feat. 153 00:07:36,025 --> 00:07:38,545 Speaker 1: I get sent a lot of makeup products and I 154 00:07:38,585 --> 00:07:41,705 Speaker 1: would say that ninety percent of them are clumpy. Every 155 00:07:41,705 --> 00:07:44,345 Speaker 1: time I put on the ASCAR is my eyelashes clumped together. 156 00:07:44,345 --> 00:07:47,105 Speaker 1: I have really long eyelashes. Unless I curl them, they 157 00:07:47,145 --> 00:07:50,265 Speaker 1: go straight out, so it's very easy for them to clump. 158 00:07:50,425 --> 00:07:52,705 Speaker 1: The one I got on this health retreat that I 159 00:07:52,785 --> 00:07:55,225 Speaker 1: was on by Ela. They gave it to us as 160 00:07:55,265 --> 00:07:57,905 Speaker 1: a sample, and I honestly have been using it ever 161 00:07:57,945 --> 00:07:59,825 Speaker 1: since I went on that retreat because I loved it 162 00:07:59,865 --> 00:08:02,865 Speaker 1: so much. It doesn't pomp at all. It's not as 163 00:08:02,985 --> 00:08:06,225 Speaker 1: thickening as I would probably like, but it definitely doesn't 164 00:08:06,225 --> 00:08:08,185 Speaker 1: clump and it elongates my lashes. 165 00:08:08,425 --> 00:08:09,665 Speaker 2: Do you do anything for brows? 166 00:08:10,065 --> 00:08:13,465 Speaker 1: The most amazing stick is from Hourglass or a Ksos, 167 00:08:13,545 --> 00:08:16,305 Speaker 1: and honestly, I thought when I was younger, I never did. 168 00:08:16,345 --> 00:08:18,665 Speaker 1: My brows had thin brows, very light brows, and it 169 00:08:18,905 --> 00:08:21,825 Speaker 1: realizes the importance of brows when it comes to the 170 00:08:21,905 --> 00:08:24,945 Speaker 1: shape of your face. I love both of those brands 171 00:08:24,985 --> 00:08:28,345 Speaker 1: because you can honestly do one strand at a time. 172 00:08:28,745 --> 00:08:31,425 Speaker 1: You can pull on your own brows and it's very 173 00:08:31,425 --> 00:08:34,265 Speaker 1: easy to do. It doesn't come out orange. The colors 174 00:08:34,305 --> 00:08:36,265 Speaker 1: are great and I'm obsessed with both of. 175 00:08:36,265 --> 00:08:38,745 Speaker 2: Them so good I need to try the hourglass one. 176 00:08:38,785 --> 00:08:41,025 Speaker 2: It's so good it often gets recommended on here, so 177 00:08:41,065 --> 00:08:42,825 Speaker 2: I feel like you're onto something with that one. So 178 00:08:42,905 --> 00:08:45,745 Speaker 2: I saw that you posted MC beauty on your Instagram, 179 00:08:45,985 --> 00:08:48,065 Speaker 2: and I wanted to know what products you like the most, 180 00:08:48,145 --> 00:08:49,105 Speaker 2: what you like about it? 181 00:08:49,145 --> 00:08:52,665 Speaker 1: Tell us, Yeah, they sent me a ton of stuff recently, 182 00:08:52,785 --> 00:08:54,345 Speaker 1: and so I tried it and I loved it so 183 00:08:54,425 --> 00:08:56,625 Speaker 1: much that I actually put it on my Instagram. I 184 00:08:56,705 --> 00:08:58,705 Speaker 1: like it for a few reasons. One, I like that 185 00:08:59,345 --> 00:09:01,185 Speaker 1: it's at a price point where a lot of my 186 00:09:01,305 --> 00:09:04,825 Speaker 1: followers they say to me, like, you know, I want 187 00:09:04,825 --> 00:09:07,825 Speaker 1: you to recommend things that you like that aren't too expensive. 188 00:09:07,945 --> 00:09:12,425 Speaker 1: So I think that MCO is great because price points 189 00:09:12,465 --> 00:09:15,105 Speaker 1: good and the quality is good. And I do really 190 00:09:15,145 --> 00:09:17,905 Speaker 1: like the colors. They've got these really nice, cheap glosses 191 00:09:18,065 --> 00:09:21,545 Speaker 1: that reminds me of more expensive brands, and it just 192 00:09:21,585 --> 00:09:25,705 Speaker 1: feels really good on. They have this nice little bronzer 193 00:09:25,905 --> 00:09:28,865 Speaker 1: tube as well that you can sort of fleck all 194 00:09:28,905 --> 00:09:32,625 Speaker 1: over your face. And yeah, I'm new to learning about them, 195 00:09:33,265 --> 00:09:41,945 Speaker 1: but I definitely enjoy the brand. 196 00:09:42,825 --> 00:09:45,625 Speaker 2: Your hair looks amazing. You're blonde at the moment. Can 197 00:09:45,665 --> 00:09:48,185 Speaker 2: you please talk us through your hair? Care routine. 198 00:09:48,465 --> 00:09:50,905 Speaker 1: I recently went blonde for a role. I had very 199 00:09:50,985 --> 00:09:53,145 Speaker 1: dark hair and for the movie, they said that you 200 00:09:53,145 --> 00:09:54,825 Speaker 1: can only take the movie if you're blonde, and I said, 201 00:09:54,825 --> 00:09:56,185 Speaker 1: I'm not going to take the movie because I don't 202 00:09:56,185 --> 00:09:58,225 Speaker 1: want to ruin my hair. My husband's like, are you 203 00:09:58,305 --> 00:09:59,985 Speaker 1: an actor or do you care about your hair? And 204 00:10:00,025 --> 00:10:01,545 Speaker 1: I've said, you know what, You're right, I have to 205 00:10:01,625 --> 00:10:03,665 Speaker 1: dye my hair. So in one day I went from 206 00:10:03,745 --> 00:10:06,145 Speaker 1: dark to blonde, and I really had to be careful 207 00:10:06,185 --> 00:10:09,905 Speaker 1: with breakage, and it wasn't great for the first six months. 208 00:10:10,265 --> 00:10:14,945 Speaker 1: Daviness is my favorite conditioner and shampoo. My kids have 209 00:10:15,185 --> 00:10:20,585 Speaker 1: really unruly, curly, knaughty, tangled hair. My youngest has ringlets 210 00:10:20,585 --> 00:10:22,905 Speaker 1: and my eldest just has this long hair down to 211 00:10:22,985 --> 00:10:25,465 Speaker 1: Robut it's the only thing that I use. I sometimes 212 00:10:25,545 --> 00:10:28,465 Speaker 1: just use the conditioner when it's going really rough with 213 00:10:28,545 --> 00:10:30,985 Speaker 1: their hair, and I just leave the conditioner in for 214 00:10:31,025 --> 00:10:33,105 Speaker 1: half an hour and then it comes out like silk. 215 00:10:33,265 --> 00:10:36,265 Speaker 1: I will never use another. I mean maybe I will 216 00:10:36,305 --> 00:10:39,425 Speaker 1: if there's a better one. But conditioner and hair product. 217 00:10:39,465 --> 00:10:40,545 Speaker 1: Did you guys have Davons? 218 00:10:40,705 --> 00:10:42,865 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can get it on a Dull Beauty in Australia. 219 00:10:43,025 --> 00:10:46,185 Speaker 1: Now, remember I've got very curly, dry hair, so I 220 00:10:46,185 --> 00:10:50,105 Speaker 1: don't know if you have thinner, more oily hair if 221 00:10:50,105 --> 00:10:52,265 Speaker 1: this would be as great for you. But for someone 222 00:10:52,305 --> 00:10:56,745 Speaker 1: who really struggles with breakage and my hair being fuzzy, 223 00:10:57,185 --> 00:10:59,905 Speaker 1: it's a game changer. Love it. And then I also 224 00:10:59,985 --> 00:11:02,465 Speaker 1: use the Igk spray, which is like a kerat and 225 00:11:02,545 --> 00:11:04,865 Speaker 1: spray that you spray on your hair when your hair 226 00:11:04,945 --> 00:11:07,065 Speaker 1: is dry, and then when you use your tongs, it 227 00:11:07,105 --> 00:11:09,265 Speaker 1: actually seals the end of your hair. It smells really 228 00:11:09,305 --> 00:11:11,865 Speaker 1: good too, so it's not totally clean, but I'd say 229 00:11:11,905 --> 00:11:14,545 Speaker 1: it's fifty to fifty. I love that product so much. 230 00:11:14,985 --> 00:11:18,865 Speaker 1: And then Salon only so so it's from Australia. I 231 00:11:18,985 --> 00:11:19,745 Speaker 1: use it as a leaden. 232 00:11:19,945 --> 00:11:20,705 Speaker 2: I've never heard of it. 233 00:11:20,865 --> 00:11:23,265 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I got it from some kind of salon. 234 00:11:23,345 --> 00:11:26,465 Speaker 1: It's called es Salon only Australia. It's like silk. 235 00:11:26,705 --> 00:11:28,865 Speaker 2: I'm looking at it online now and it all looks 236 00:11:28,905 --> 00:11:30,745 Speaker 2: like to be like under twenty dollars for this ray. 237 00:11:31,025 --> 00:11:33,865 Speaker 1: Oh it's my favorite leave in conditioner, hands down. And 238 00:11:33,905 --> 00:11:36,105 Speaker 1: then Oliplex on. My hair is feeling like it's breaking 239 00:11:36,145 --> 00:11:39,785 Speaker 1: off and I'm really struggling with rebuilding the bonds and 240 00:11:39,825 --> 00:11:42,265 Speaker 1: things like that. I've heard that if you use Oliplex 241 00:11:42,785 --> 00:11:44,825 Speaker 1: too much, it can actually put too much protein in 242 00:11:44,825 --> 00:11:46,785 Speaker 1: your hair, and it actually can make your hair break. 243 00:11:47,025 --> 00:11:48,745 Speaker 1: It had a bad rap for a second, but I 244 00:11:48,785 --> 00:11:51,105 Speaker 1: really think it's a good product. Use it once a month, 245 00:11:51,225 --> 00:11:54,465 Speaker 1: or use the treatment once every two weeks, but just 246 00:11:54,465 --> 00:11:55,425 Speaker 1: don't use it all the time. 247 00:11:55,585 --> 00:11:57,425 Speaker 2: Do you feel like you're going to go back to 248 00:11:57,505 --> 00:11:58,265 Speaker 2: having dark hair? 249 00:11:59,345 --> 00:12:02,225 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there'll be a transition. I'm shooting a 250 00:12:02,265 --> 00:12:04,385 Speaker 1: movie in two weeks and they want me to keep 251 00:12:04,425 --> 00:12:07,865 Speaker 1: it blonde ish. I would like to go light brown, 252 00:12:08,025 --> 00:12:11,185 Speaker 1: but I didn't realize I loved having those dark or 253 00:12:11,305 --> 00:12:14,105 Speaker 1: chair but I didn't realize that it probably aged me 254 00:12:14,145 --> 00:12:16,265 Speaker 1: a little bit. I don't know if I thought that, 255 00:12:16,305 --> 00:12:18,345 Speaker 1: But then my agents were like, you look older with 256 00:12:18,545 --> 00:12:20,185 Speaker 1: dark hair, which I think can be a good thing 257 00:12:20,345 --> 00:12:21,905 Speaker 1: or not a good thing. It just depends on what 258 00:12:21,985 --> 00:12:25,665 Speaker 1: role you're going for. But I do think lighter does 259 00:12:25,745 --> 00:12:28,785 Speaker 1: have a usefulness to it for me, So I'm going 260 00:12:28,825 --> 00:12:30,745 Speaker 1: to keep it for a minute. And it's really hard 261 00:12:30,745 --> 00:12:32,065 Speaker 1: to go back and then back again. 262 00:12:32,225 --> 00:12:42,625 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, what a. 263 00:12:44,225 --> 00:12:46,105 Speaker 1: You makeup hacks? 264 00:12:46,265 --> 00:12:50,105 Speaker 2: So you have spent a lot of time in makeup 265 00:12:50,185 --> 00:12:54,425 Speaker 2: artist chairs, on sets, working with different creatives. What is 266 00:12:54,465 --> 00:12:57,385 Speaker 2: the best makeup beauty tip trick hack that you've learned 267 00:12:57,425 --> 00:12:58,265 Speaker 2: in your career so far. 268 00:12:59,385 --> 00:13:02,465 Speaker 1: I'm so against the strip lash. I used to love 269 00:13:02,665 --> 00:13:07,065 Speaker 1: the striplash. I think you can look so much more 270 00:13:07,145 --> 00:13:11,705 Speaker 1: dramatic and natural by doing a ton of individuals. You 271 00:13:11,745 --> 00:13:15,625 Speaker 1: can play with lengths and sizes, placements on your eye. 272 00:13:15,985 --> 00:13:19,065 Speaker 1: I now, when I do a photo shoot, will never 273 00:13:19,185 --> 00:13:22,465 Speaker 1: do a strip. I always ask for individuals and a 274 00:13:22,505 --> 00:13:24,225 Speaker 1: ton of them. I don't think I can stand the 275 00:13:24,225 --> 00:13:24,945 Speaker 1: strip anymore. 276 00:13:25,065 --> 00:13:26,825 Speaker 2: That is a great hack. I love that too, And 277 00:13:26,865 --> 00:13:28,705 Speaker 2: I like that you can kind of focus them like 278 00:13:28,745 --> 00:13:30,825 Speaker 2: I'll focus them on like my outer corner to get 279 00:13:30,865 --> 00:13:34,905 Speaker 2: more of like a fan. So good. Yeah, Tavin, thank 280 00:13:34,945 --> 00:13:37,225 Speaker 2: you so much for joining us today much. 281 00:13:37,305 --> 00:13:39,745 Speaker 1: I appreciate hear it. Did you tell everyone it's ten 282 00:13:39,785 --> 00:13:41,905 Speaker 1: o'clock at nights? I must love you guys where I am. 283 00:13:42,385 --> 00:13:47,145 Speaker 2: We're very grateful. Thank you so much for joining me. Ubs, 284 00:13:47,265 --> 00:13:49,545 Speaker 2: Kelly and Lee will be back in your ears tomorrow 285 00:13:49,585 --> 00:13:52,105 Speaker 2: with Spendy Sabee, So tune in and if you want 286 00:13:52,145 --> 00:13:54,225 Speaker 2: even more beauty, remember you can find a link to 287 00:13:54,265 --> 00:13:56,505 Speaker 2: our beauty newsletter in the show notes, I'll see you 288 00:13:56,505 --> 00:13:58,545 Speaker 2: next week for another makeup deep dive. Bye.