1 00:00:11,064 --> 00:00:11,384 Speaker 1: So much. 2 00:00:11,424 --> 00:00:14,104 Speaker 2: You're listening to a Mama Mia podcast. 3 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,624 Speaker 1: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 4 00:00:18,704 --> 00:00:20,504 Speaker 1: that this podcast is recorded on. 5 00:00:25,184 --> 00:00:28,464 Speaker 2: From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop 6 00:00:28,504 --> 00:00:29,264 Speaker 2: culture fix. 7 00:00:29,624 --> 00:00:32,304 Speaker 1: I'm m Burning and I'm Laura Britney. 8 00:00:32,344 --> 00:00:36,624 Speaker 2: Happy Wednesday, Happy Wednesday. Today on this show, we are 9 00:00:36,744 --> 00:00:40,304 Speaker 2: kicking things off with the infamous. And I know I'm 10 00:00:40,304 --> 00:00:41,904 Speaker 2: going to say that and someone's going to get really 11 00:00:41,904 --> 00:00:45,384 Speaker 2: angry that I'm using this adjective. Carn Film Festival has 12 00:00:45,464 --> 00:00:49,264 Speaker 2: taken off and we have been given a set of 13 00:00:49,384 --> 00:00:54,064 Speaker 2: really strict rules and regulations for the A listers at 14 00:00:54,064 --> 00:00:58,024 Speaker 2: the Cahn Film Festival. Plus, a famous restauranteur has released 15 00:00:58,064 --> 00:01:01,944 Speaker 2: a memoir and they talk about a big A list 16 00:01:01,984 --> 00:01:05,144 Speaker 2: celebrity in not the nicest light. We are going to 17 00:01:05,224 --> 00:01:08,184 Speaker 2: dive deep into that because it's scandalous. 18 00:01:08,584 --> 00:01:12,904 Speaker 1: For first. But first, a very important breaking news topic 19 00:01:12,984 --> 00:01:14,944 Speaker 1: that did happen last week. And I'm just going to 20 00:01:15,024 --> 00:01:16,784 Speaker 1: come out and straightforward say that one of us on 21 00:01:16,824 --> 00:01:18,944 Speaker 1: this podcast desperately wants to talk about this. 22 00:01:19,544 --> 00:01:21,744 Speaker 2: You waited a week to talk about this, well. 23 00:01:21,584 --> 00:01:22,864 Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure that you and I were 24 00:01:22,904 --> 00:01:25,264 Speaker 1: in a good head stat to properly take in this information. 25 00:01:25,624 --> 00:01:27,144 Speaker 1: But you just gave it away because I was going 26 00:01:27,184 --> 00:01:29,064 Speaker 1: to say, one of us desperately wants to talk about this, 27 00:01:29,104 --> 00:01:30,624 Speaker 1: and one of us could not care less, And I'll 28 00:01:30,664 --> 00:01:34,024 Speaker 1: let you guys at home decide who's who. Because in 29 00:01:34,064 --> 00:01:38,184 Speaker 1: the last couple of days, Practical Magic two got an 30 00:01:38,184 --> 00:01:41,304 Speaker 1: official release date. Like we knew it was bubbling away, 31 00:01:41,744 --> 00:01:44,384 Speaker 1: we knew it was happening, but it still felt like 32 00:01:44,384 --> 00:01:46,584 Speaker 1: a pipe dream, like a fever dream that was never 33 00:01:46,584 --> 00:01:49,464 Speaker 1: going to eventuate. Like people sign on to do movies 34 00:01:49,504 --> 00:01:51,424 Speaker 1: all the time and they never happen. Things get stuck 35 00:01:51,464 --> 00:01:54,704 Speaker 1: in production, help movies start, scripts get written, they get lost. 36 00:01:54,704 --> 00:01:56,784 Speaker 1: Like that's how Hollywood works. Every time a movie. I always 37 00:01:56,744 --> 00:01:58,464 Speaker 1: think about this when going into movie. Every time movie's 38 00:01:58,504 --> 00:02:00,264 Speaker 1: on the screen, whether it's good or bad, it is 39 00:02:00,304 --> 00:02:03,144 Speaker 1: a freaking miracle that it's there. So the fact that 40 00:02:03,144 --> 00:02:05,584 Speaker 1: Practical Magic two was talked about didn't mean it was 41 00:02:05,624 --> 00:02:07,624 Speaker 1: going to come. But now we know it's coming. Write 42 00:02:07,624 --> 00:02:11,744 Speaker 1: this in your diaries September eighteen, twenty six. Oh, I 43 00:02:11,784 --> 00:02:12,824 Speaker 1: will be on leave that week. 44 00:02:12,944 --> 00:02:14,624 Speaker 2: Oh it's because I watching that day. 45 00:02:14,704 --> 00:02:16,664 Speaker 1: Oh does she want to come? To the movies with me. Yes, 46 00:02:17,744 --> 00:02:21,784 Speaker 1: watch Practical Magic too. So if you're not across Practical Magic, 47 00:02:22,384 --> 00:02:25,584 Speaker 1: that would be you. Emily Trees Venom. Practical Magic is 48 00:02:25,624 --> 00:02:29,544 Speaker 1: a very important romantic fantasy film that was released in 49 00:02:29,664 --> 00:02:33,024 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight. I was but a child, but I 50 00:02:33,064 --> 00:02:35,424 Speaker 1: remember just the magic of seeing this movie. I wasn't 51 00:02:35,424 --> 00:02:37,304 Speaker 1: allowed to go to the movies and see it, one 52 00:02:37,304 --> 00:02:38,784 Speaker 1: because I had no money and no way to get there. 53 00:02:38,784 --> 00:02:40,704 Speaker 1: And two my mom was like, which is no way? 54 00:02:41,544 --> 00:02:43,024 Speaker 1: So I did have to wait till it came out 55 00:02:43,064 --> 00:02:45,944 Speaker 1: on VHS at the video store. But boy, then did 56 00:02:45,984 --> 00:02:48,064 Speaker 1: I watch it, Oh my god, on a weekly basis. 57 00:02:48,224 --> 00:02:50,864 Speaker 1: Really yeah, yeah, I freaking love this music, me and 58 00:02:50,904 --> 00:02:53,424 Speaker 1: every other millennial woman in the world, like people of 59 00:02:53,464 --> 00:02:57,184 Speaker 1: all ages, but specifically I think for people who were kids, teens, 60 00:02:57,264 --> 00:03:00,264 Speaker 1: tweens at that time. Even though it's a very adult movie, 61 00:03:00,344 --> 00:03:02,184 Speaker 1: it is. It's a very adult movie. 62 00:03:02,184 --> 00:03:04,264 Speaker 2: We have talked about Practical Magic quite often. 63 00:03:04,424 --> 00:03:06,264 Speaker 1: Okay, you say that, but I think we've really really 64 00:03:06,264 --> 00:03:08,624 Speaker 1: talked about it once. I would say minimum vibe. Okay, So, 65 00:03:08,704 --> 00:03:11,144 Speaker 1: if you're not across the movie. It stars Nicole Kidman 66 00:03:11,184 --> 00:03:13,984 Speaker 1: and Sandra Bullock. First of all, what a pairing. 67 00:03:14,184 --> 00:03:16,144 Speaker 2: Great. Wait are they going to be in the second one? 68 00:03:16,264 --> 00:03:18,704 Speaker 1: Yes? No, No, that's the exciting So it's the same 69 00:03:18,824 --> 00:03:20,344 Speaker 1: script writer, it's the same. 70 00:03:21,584 --> 00:03:22,144 Speaker 2: It's the same. 71 00:03:23,184 --> 00:03:27,064 Speaker 1: You can't make Practical Magic without the original Owen sisters. 72 00:03:27,144 --> 00:03:29,104 Speaker 2: Wait, same writers and producers. 73 00:03:29,184 --> 00:03:31,184 Speaker 1: Yeah, all the same team coming back. It's going to 74 00:03:31,224 --> 00:03:32,904 Speaker 1: be a good one. So that's why I think maybe 75 00:03:32,944 --> 00:03:36,224 Speaker 1: if you just watched the second one. No, don't you dare? Okay, 76 00:03:36,224 --> 00:03:41,744 Speaker 1: I I. 77 00:03:40,984 --> 00:03:41,824 Speaker 2: How you'd react? 78 00:03:42,144 --> 00:03:43,664 Speaker 1: Okay, can I just say I know you haven't seen 79 00:03:43,704 --> 00:03:46,224 Speaker 1: this movie, and that's totally fine, but I would like 80 00:03:46,264 --> 00:03:47,664 Speaker 1: you to watch it. Actually, I would love it all 81 00:03:47,664 --> 00:03:49,944 Speaker 1: spillers to watch it. Because there's a lot of movies 82 00:03:49,984 --> 00:03:53,024 Speaker 1: that I like other people watched and really loved as 83 00:03:53,024 --> 00:03:55,464 Speaker 1: a kid, that I know don't hold up today, or 84 00:03:55,504 --> 00:03:57,464 Speaker 1: I know that you wouldn't want to watch as an adult. 85 00:03:57,664 --> 00:04:01,264 Speaker 1: But Practical Magic is just a great movie. It's visually stunning, 86 00:04:01,424 --> 00:04:04,264 Speaker 1: it's so wildly entertaining, it's got a lot of heart, 87 00:04:04,304 --> 00:04:07,064 Speaker 1: and it really holds up today. So can you please 88 00:04:07,064 --> 00:04:07,504 Speaker 1: watch it? 89 00:04:07,584 --> 00:04:08,344 Speaker 2: Okay? I will? 90 00:04:08,464 --> 00:04:09,784 Speaker 1: And can I please be with you because I want 91 00:04:09,784 --> 00:04:10,304 Speaker 1: to see your face? 92 00:04:10,544 --> 00:04:12,944 Speaker 2: Okay, So spillers, we have some homework. We're all gonna 93 00:04:12,944 --> 00:04:15,584 Speaker 2: watch it. LB will be witnessed to my watch. If 94 00:04:15,584 --> 00:04:17,264 Speaker 2: anyone else will like me to come over and watch 95 00:04:17,264 --> 00:04:19,944 Speaker 2: them watch it. I'm also open to home invitations. 96 00:04:20,064 --> 00:04:20,864 Speaker 1: So the media. 97 00:04:20,944 --> 00:04:22,744 Speaker 2: It does have a really good scene and no context. 98 00:04:22,784 --> 00:04:24,424 Speaker 2: Because I haven't seen the film. I've seen this one 99 00:04:24,464 --> 00:04:26,584 Speaker 2: scene when they're dancing in the kitchen cooking. 100 00:04:26,784 --> 00:04:29,544 Speaker 1: That's one of the greatest scenes, one hundred percent. So 101 00:04:29,584 --> 00:04:33,104 Speaker 1: Sandra Bullock and Nicole Kibbin play sisters Sally and Jillian Owens. 102 00:04:33,464 --> 00:04:35,784 Speaker 1: They are descended from a very long line of witches. 103 00:04:36,024 --> 00:04:38,544 Speaker 1: Their family has a curse that the men that they 104 00:04:38,624 --> 00:04:41,184 Speaker 1: fall in love with will mean an untimely death. They 105 00:04:41,344 --> 00:04:44,864 Speaker 1: also have been raised by their wild aunts. Who I 106 00:04:45,384 --> 00:04:47,864 Speaker 1: now that I'm like getting older in my life, that's 107 00:04:47,864 --> 00:04:49,784 Speaker 1: who I aspire to be, is like these two crazy 108 00:04:49,824 --> 00:04:53,064 Speaker 1: aunts that live in the most gorgeous, beautiful, haunted house 109 00:04:53,104 --> 00:04:55,064 Speaker 1: on a timely island, which is all I want in 110 00:04:55,064 --> 00:04:58,624 Speaker 1: my life. Played by Diane West in Stock and Channing. Yeah. 111 00:04:58,624 --> 00:05:00,544 Speaker 1: So the sisters, you see them as like follow them 112 00:05:00,544 --> 00:05:03,704 Speaker 1: from their kids they grow up. Sandra Bullock's character something 113 00:05:03,704 --> 00:05:05,904 Speaker 1: happens to her husband and she's raising her two daughters, 114 00:05:05,904 --> 00:05:08,064 Speaker 1: and Nicole Kibbin is like the wild sister with the 115 00:05:08,104 --> 00:05:09,944 Speaker 1: long red hair who goes away for years and then 116 00:05:09,944 --> 00:05:12,264 Speaker 1: comes back to this little town. And then there's this 117 00:05:12,304 --> 00:05:13,904 Speaker 1: whole thing of them having to like cover up a 118 00:05:13,984 --> 00:05:16,064 Speaker 1: murder in the town to hate them because they're witches, 119 00:05:16,144 --> 00:05:19,704 Speaker 1: and they have this whole like spooky sexy. Yeah, it's 120 00:05:19,784 --> 00:05:23,464 Speaker 1: very intense at some scenes, like but just so visually beautiful, 121 00:05:23,824 --> 00:05:25,784 Speaker 1: and there's like this set of rules that they live 122 00:05:25,864 --> 00:05:27,384 Speaker 1: by in the movie, you like, how to have a 123 00:05:27,424 --> 00:05:29,544 Speaker 1: good life, and it's just like there's like little witchy 124 00:05:29,584 --> 00:05:31,584 Speaker 1: things that you can almost do at home. But I 125 00:05:31,664 --> 00:05:33,624 Speaker 1: think a lot of women have like lived by it. 126 00:05:33,744 --> 00:05:35,944 Speaker 1: There's no like official trailer or anything, because I haven't started 127 00:05:35,944 --> 00:05:38,704 Speaker 1: shooting yet, but they did release this little trailer which 128 00:05:38,744 --> 00:05:42,704 Speaker 1: I think spoke to a lot of people Tooth of Wolf. 129 00:05:44,424 --> 00:05:53,304 Speaker 2: And Mourning too. Something old and something new, like the 130 00:05:53,384 --> 00:06:00,304 Speaker 2: Spell beginning to mix. September eighteenth, twenty twenty six. 131 00:06:03,504 --> 00:06:05,144 Speaker 1: There's a really iconic scene the movie, the one you 132 00:06:05,184 --> 00:06:07,104 Speaker 1: were talking I'm in the Coconut. Yeah, yeah, like the 133 00:06:07,104 --> 00:06:09,784 Speaker 1: Coconut where they do midnight margaritas and all like the 134 00:06:09,824 --> 00:06:12,344 Speaker 1: ants and the adult sisters or like get up at 135 00:06:12,384 --> 00:06:14,424 Speaker 1: midnight and dance around the kitchen that song and have 136 00:06:14,544 --> 00:06:17,904 Speaker 1: these marger readers and casts and spells. And we can 137 00:06:17,944 --> 00:06:19,904 Speaker 1: tell that's a scene that's stuck with so many women 138 00:06:19,944 --> 00:06:23,984 Speaker 1: because in Dolly Alderton's series Everything About Love, she riffs 139 00:06:23,984 --> 00:06:25,424 Speaker 1: on that and the girls who are living in the 140 00:06:25,424 --> 00:06:27,744 Speaker 1: share house do the same thing. And when I saw that, 141 00:06:27,824 --> 00:06:29,344 Speaker 1: I nearly fell off my chair because I was like, 142 00:06:29,344 --> 00:06:32,624 Speaker 1: Practical Magic lives on. So it's really exciting. Also, just 143 00:06:32,664 --> 00:06:35,544 Speaker 1: I got like quite emotional hearing Nicole Kimmen and Sandra 144 00:06:35,584 --> 00:06:38,624 Speaker 1: Bullock's voices just even voicing the trailer, because they have 145 00:06:38,664 --> 00:06:40,984 Speaker 1: both said they've obviously gone on to have they had 146 00:06:41,064 --> 00:06:43,784 Speaker 1: huge careers. Then Practical Magic didn't do that well at 147 00:06:43,824 --> 00:06:45,544 Speaker 1: the time, but it's just become this one of those 148 00:06:45,544 --> 00:06:48,304 Speaker 1: like could classics. Yeah, And they have both said, out 149 00:06:48,304 --> 00:06:50,224 Speaker 1: of all the projects they've done over the years, it's 150 00:06:50,264 --> 00:06:52,184 Speaker 1: one of the movies that get to reference the most, 151 00:06:52,584 --> 00:06:55,544 Speaker 1: either from fans loving it or the one movie that 152 00:06:55,664 --> 00:06:58,384 Speaker 1: everyone's asked them to please do a sequel. And you know, 153 00:06:58,384 --> 00:07:00,024 Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of sequels. I feel like 154 00:07:00,024 --> 00:07:03,184 Speaker 1: sometimes leave it like you create a perfect movie that's 155 00:07:03,224 --> 00:07:05,424 Speaker 1: so hard to do. Just leave it, let it be. 156 00:07:06,104 --> 00:07:07,904 Speaker 1: But there's so many other books in the series that 157 00:07:07,944 --> 00:07:10,344 Speaker 1: this movie is based off the Practical Magic Books scene, 158 00:07:10,704 --> 00:07:12,864 Speaker 1: and they've taken one of those stories from the series 159 00:07:13,184 --> 00:07:16,104 Speaker 1: and made it into the movie with the same producer 160 00:07:16,224 --> 00:07:19,384 Speaker 1: and the same writer and the same cast. And I 161 00:07:19,424 --> 00:07:20,024 Speaker 1: just think. 162 00:07:20,264 --> 00:07:23,304 Speaker 2: Maybe you always feel a bit better when you know 163 00:07:23,344 --> 00:07:25,784 Speaker 2: it's all the OG's coming out. Yeah, yeah, So I 164 00:07:25,784 --> 00:07:26,704 Speaker 2: think it's gonna be good. 165 00:07:26,864 --> 00:07:28,784 Speaker 1: I know. I'm so excited anyway, So I would just 166 00:07:28,784 --> 00:07:30,344 Speaker 1: say to all the spillers out there, if you haven't 167 00:07:30,384 --> 00:07:32,864 Speaker 1: watched Practical Magic, it's one of those movies that you should, 168 00:07:32,984 --> 00:07:35,064 Speaker 1: like really make a little occasion of it, like put 169 00:07:35,104 --> 00:07:37,064 Speaker 1: your phone another room. If you live with other people, 170 00:07:37,064 --> 00:07:38,624 Speaker 1: Tom to go away, or if they want to watch 171 00:07:38,664 --> 00:07:40,264 Speaker 1: the movie, they can, but they have to be quiet, 172 00:07:40,744 --> 00:07:45,024 Speaker 1: lights some candles, get yourself a little special beverage, like oh, 173 00:07:45,064 --> 00:07:46,784 Speaker 1: the winter months of the perfect time to do it, 174 00:07:46,824 --> 00:07:48,704 Speaker 1: because they're all like rugged up and stuff in this 175 00:07:48,864 --> 00:07:51,544 Speaker 1: like beautiful like place they live and just like experience 176 00:07:51,624 --> 00:07:53,864 Speaker 1: Practical Magic. And we'll see you back here in twenty 177 00:07:53,904 --> 00:07:58,544 Speaker 1: twenty six for our full review. Well the cant film 178 00:07:58,584 --> 00:08:01,624 Speaker 1: Festival has kicked off this week. Very exciting because that's 179 00:08:01,664 --> 00:08:04,224 Speaker 1: where a lot of really big movies premiere. It's when 180 00:08:04,224 --> 00:08:06,304 Speaker 1: we start to get a little taste of which movies 181 00:08:06,544 --> 00:08:09,104 Speaker 1: will be the front runners at the awards season coming 182 00:08:09,184 --> 00:08:10,664 Speaker 1: up at the end of this year and go into 183 00:08:10,664 --> 00:08:13,864 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. Will obviously have you know, a bit of 184 00:08:13,904 --> 00:08:16,784 Speaker 1: celeb drama because all the hot, rich, gorgeous people are 185 00:08:16,824 --> 00:08:18,544 Speaker 1: gathered in one place together. 186 00:08:18,424 --> 00:08:20,424 Speaker 2: Some of them are pushed downstairs yeap something. 187 00:08:20,544 --> 00:08:22,184 Speaker 1: You know, there's going to be some drama. There's going 188 00:08:22,264 --> 00:08:25,264 Speaker 1: to be some gossip. And also what's really interesting about 189 00:08:25,264 --> 00:08:27,784 Speaker 1: the Carn Film Festival, it is really known for the 190 00:08:27,824 --> 00:08:31,144 Speaker 1: fashion of its attendees, and for many many years now 191 00:08:31,184 --> 00:08:33,584 Speaker 1: it's become a place where people who are not super 192 00:08:33,624 --> 00:08:35,704 Speaker 1: involved in the film industry. So a lot of different 193 00:08:35,744 --> 00:08:38,624 Speaker 1: like models or people with influence, or even actors who 194 00:08:38,664 --> 00:08:41,104 Speaker 1: don't have a movie out that year, will attend the 195 00:08:41,104 --> 00:08:44,104 Speaker 1: Carn Film Festival just to walk the carpet. And you 196 00:08:44,104 --> 00:08:46,664 Speaker 1: know how like things like the Oscars and those other 197 00:08:46,744 --> 00:08:49,024 Speaker 1: moments that used to be the really big red carpet 198 00:08:49,024 --> 00:08:52,504 Speaker 1: fashion moments have now become a little bit more serious 199 00:08:52,544 --> 00:08:54,824 Speaker 1: and people don't want to you know, they don't want 200 00:08:54,824 --> 00:08:56,944 Speaker 1: to like take away or seem to be rude by 201 00:08:56,984 --> 00:08:59,144 Speaker 1: taking away from the importance of the event. So they 202 00:08:59,144 --> 00:09:02,344 Speaker 1: wear more kind of not somber, but they don't that's 203 00:09:02,384 --> 00:09:05,464 Speaker 1: not the place to like really do the big fashion moments. 204 00:09:05,584 --> 00:09:07,984 Speaker 1: They don't want the wrong headline on them exactly. They 205 00:09:07,984 --> 00:09:10,144 Speaker 1: don't want to see as being you know, breaking the 206 00:09:10,664 --> 00:09:12,344 Speaker 1: and wearing the wrong thing, so they go a little 207 00:09:12,384 --> 00:09:15,144 Speaker 1: bit more traditional, a bit more subdued. And so the 208 00:09:15,184 --> 00:09:17,584 Speaker 1: two really i'd say two of the biggest red carpet 209 00:09:17,584 --> 00:09:20,224 Speaker 1: moments from the year are the Met Gala, whereas we know, 210 00:09:20,344 --> 00:09:23,464 Speaker 1: people go all out and Kylie Jenner is gluing her 211 00:09:23,464 --> 00:09:25,304 Speaker 1: shoes to her feet then can't cut them off. Did 212 00:09:25,344 --> 00:09:25,624 Speaker 1: you sit that? 213 00:09:25,864 --> 00:09:26,064 Speaker 2: Yeah? 214 00:09:26,224 --> 00:09:29,584 Speaker 1: Yeah? And Kim Kardashian's got corsets on and she can't breathe. 215 00:09:29,624 --> 00:09:31,984 Speaker 1: People have been carrying boxes and falling down the stairs. 216 00:09:32,064 --> 00:09:33,784 Speaker 1: So we've got the Met Gala, and we have got 217 00:09:33,864 --> 00:09:38,064 Speaker 1: the Cahn Film Festival red carpet, where people have walked 218 00:09:38,224 --> 00:09:41,944 Speaker 1: that red carpet in the most volumeous, over the top 219 00:09:42,184 --> 00:09:47,424 Speaker 1: crazy looks over the years. They've worn sheer dresses, sparkles, feathers, 220 00:09:47,504 --> 00:09:48,784 Speaker 1: anything you can think of is me on the car 221 00:09:48,944 --> 00:09:50,944 Speaker 1: red carpet. It's been the most over the top carpet 222 00:09:51,544 --> 00:09:56,024 Speaker 1: until now, Emily, until now because. 223 00:09:55,904 --> 00:09:57,584 Speaker 2: Just a damn security card. 224 00:09:57,984 --> 00:10:02,064 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, we'll get to that. So an update from 225 00:10:02,224 --> 00:10:04,984 Speaker 1: the car Film Festival. According to the Hollywood reporter who 226 00:10:05,064 --> 00:10:10,264 Speaker 1: interviewed the committee who's in charge of it, Yeah, someone's 227 00:10:10,464 --> 00:10:13,224 Speaker 1: down those steps of and carn and was like a 228 00:10:13,304 --> 00:10:16,024 Speaker 1: big scroll. I think everyone who got invied this year 229 00:10:16,064 --> 00:10:19,384 Speaker 1: also got a full email with the address code outline. 230 00:10:19,704 --> 00:10:22,264 Speaker 1: Because there has now been for the can Film Festival 231 00:10:22,344 --> 00:10:26,824 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five an effective band on full nudity or 232 00:10:26,904 --> 00:10:29,944 Speaker 1: nudity in dresses. Full nudity, I think I'm just gonna 233 00:10:29,944 --> 00:10:32,544 Speaker 1: want a limit, say, is a band everywhere for legal reasons, 234 00:10:32,824 --> 00:10:36,544 Speaker 1: don't try that at home, but also volume us ensembles. 235 00:10:36,744 --> 00:10:39,384 Speaker 2: Okay, so it's like full nudity, but you also just 236 00:10:39,384 --> 00:10:41,104 Speaker 2: can't wear clothes. Is that what I'm hearing? 237 00:10:41,304 --> 00:10:45,024 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't go exactly too much. They miss on 238 00:10:45,144 --> 00:10:47,384 Speaker 1: somebo My biggest thing, if you look at red carpet 239 00:10:47,384 --> 00:10:51,064 Speaker 1: trends for the last couple of years, it's sheer dresses 240 00:10:51,224 --> 00:10:53,824 Speaker 1: or volumess stresses. So if those two things are banned. 241 00:10:53,864 --> 00:10:56,464 Speaker 1: What are these poor gals? Because it is the gals always, 242 00:10:56,824 --> 00:10:58,344 Speaker 1: what are these poor girls gonna wear? 243 00:10:58,504 --> 00:11:01,744 Speaker 2: So how do you judge what's volume? Miss? Like, is 244 00:11:01,744 --> 00:11:03,504 Speaker 2: there going to be like a screening where they walk 245 00:11:03,544 --> 00:11:06,144 Speaker 2: through like a security screening and they're like too much fabric? 246 00:11:06,184 --> 00:11:06,864 Speaker 2: Cut the dress? 247 00:11:06,944 --> 00:11:08,464 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to stand like on a rule or. 248 00:11:08,584 --> 00:11:11,864 Speaker 2: That cut off and who's day the big hats and. 249 00:11:11,984 --> 00:11:13,504 Speaker 1: Days out of there. She's never allowed to go to 250 00:11:13,584 --> 00:11:16,344 Speaker 1: carn Film Festival again. And also all the Kardashians and 251 00:11:16,344 --> 00:11:19,144 Speaker 1: all the models because sheer dresses have been banned. I'm 252 00:11:19,144 --> 00:11:21,704 Speaker 1: also wondering how they They've obviously said full nudity, which 253 00:11:21,704 --> 00:11:23,704 Speaker 1: again I think is just a legal clause in most countries. 254 00:11:23,744 --> 00:11:26,064 Speaker 2: You know what they should bring back a uniform. They 255 00:11:26,184 --> 00:11:29,984 Speaker 2: all dress like as a uniform as they're going to school, 256 00:11:30,104 --> 00:11:32,344 Speaker 2: and then however they interpret their uniform. 257 00:11:32,424 --> 00:11:35,184 Speaker 1: That's just all those catches would be lovely to look at. Okay, 258 00:11:35,184 --> 00:11:37,584 Speaker 1: So this is from the official film festival charter, just 259 00:11:37,624 --> 00:11:40,464 Speaker 1: in case anyone listening is thinking of going and would 260 00:11:40,464 --> 00:11:42,144 Speaker 1: like to know what they can wear. This is what 261 00:11:42,184 --> 00:11:45,384 Speaker 1: they've put out for decency reasons. So already you know 262 00:11:45,424 --> 00:11:48,224 Speaker 1: it's serious. It's about decency. Emily, Okay, it's not about fashion. 263 00:11:48,384 --> 00:11:51,504 Speaker 2: What happened in the last year, I have got scarred 264 00:11:51,584 --> 00:11:52,224 Speaker 2: on the. 265 00:11:53,704 --> 00:11:56,864 Speaker 1: For decency reasons. Nudity is prohibit on the red carpet. 266 00:11:56,904 --> 00:11:59,344 Speaker 1: Again should have gone without saying, but as well as 267 00:11:59,344 --> 00:12:01,584 Speaker 1: in any other area of the festival. So don't think 268 00:12:01,584 --> 00:12:03,744 Speaker 1: you're pulling out that new dress at the after party, 269 00:12:03,824 --> 00:12:05,624 Speaker 1: or that you're going to get to wear a voluminous 270 00:12:05,704 --> 00:12:09,904 Speaker 1: dress to the breakfast. No. No, then it says, will 271 00:12:10,024 --> 00:12:14,624 Speaker 1: not your legs. No in any way voluminous outfits, in 272 00:12:14,664 --> 00:12:18,424 Speaker 1: particular those with a large train, which can I just say, 273 00:12:18,664 --> 00:12:21,384 Speaker 1: can't film festival. No one for the long. 274 00:12:21,224 --> 00:12:23,304 Speaker 2: Train because of the stairs, because you got. 275 00:12:23,264 --> 00:12:27,464 Speaker 1: Those huge stands and you have that longurity guards up 276 00:12:27,464 --> 00:12:30,464 Speaker 1: there to tell you to go back down. So they said, 277 00:12:30,624 --> 00:12:33,904 Speaker 1: in particular those with large trains that hinder the proper 278 00:12:33,944 --> 00:12:37,224 Speaker 1: flow of traffic of guests and complicate seating in the 279 00:12:37,224 --> 00:12:42,144 Speaker 1: theater are not permitted. How that rule was put in well, exactly, 280 00:12:42,384 --> 00:12:45,584 Speaker 1: the festival welcoming teams will be obligated to prohibit red 281 00:12:45,584 --> 00:12:49,904 Speaker 1: carpet access to anyone not respecting those rules. It is interesting, 282 00:12:49,904 --> 00:12:52,024 Speaker 1: so any kind of celeb you walk down that red 283 00:12:52,064 --> 00:12:54,064 Speaker 1: carpet in a full skirt or a shared dress, you're 284 00:12:54,064 --> 00:12:56,664 Speaker 1: out of it. Which is interesting because as time goes 285 00:12:56,704 --> 00:12:59,824 Speaker 1: on and we're seeing all these celebrities walk in these outfits, 286 00:13:00,064 --> 00:13:02,144 Speaker 1: that's the question we often have and we're watching it, 287 00:13:02,264 --> 00:13:04,904 Speaker 1: is like, how are you sitting down? How are you 288 00:13:04,944 --> 00:13:06,784 Speaker 1: getting through the crowd? Think of because when they go 289 00:13:06,944 --> 00:13:09,664 Speaker 1: once they leave that huge red carpet, they're going into 290 00:13:09,664 --> 00:13:12,584 Speaker 1: a cinema. The ones we sit in those really old 291 00:13:12,664 --> 00:13:14,344 Speaker 1: school you know how we go to those old school 292 00:13:14,424 --> 00:13:18,224 Speaker 1: cinemas and they're like heritage. Listen, they're so beautiful. I 293 00:13:18,224 --> 00:13:20,664 Speaker 1: can't fit my knees behind there. I'm so tall, but 294 00:13:20,664 --> 00:13:24,664 Speaker 1: I'm still Yeah, we have to sometimes think about what 295 00:13:24,704 --> 00:13:27,424 Speaker 1: we wear and what bags we take to events. How 296 00:13:27,424 --> 00:13:29,744 Speaker 1: would you then do that if you've got a full 297 00:13:29,864 --> 00:13:32,544 Speaker 1: like train and skirt. And so, what I think is 298 00:13:32,584 --> 00:13:34,824 Speaker 1: happening is that there's issues like you're a celebrity on 299 00:13:34,864 --> 00:13:36,904 Speaker 1: the red carpet, but once you get too theater, everyone's equal. 300 00:13:36,944 --> 00:13:39,384 Speaker 1: Everyone needs to take into their seat and everyone needs 301 00:13:39,424 --> 00:13:40,904 Speaker 1: to you know, be in the right spot. And so 302 00:13:41,104 --> 00:13:44,584 Speaker 1: if you can't get people in there, that's obviously caused 303 00:13:44,624 --> 00:13:48,024 Speaker 1: such a thing that they've made like a proper change 304 00:13:48,224 --> 00:13:50,664 Speaker 1: in their like by laws and rules and their official charter. 305 00:13:51,384 --> 00:13:53,464 Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is going to be one of 306 00:13:53,544 --> 00:13:55,904 Speaker 2: the most intense things to watch because all I'll be 307 00:13:55,984 --> 00:14:01,464 Speaker 2: watching are like what people are wearing and exactly if 308 00:14:01,504 --> 00:14:03,584 Speaker 2: they make it or not? Can you imagine? But also 309 00:14:03,664 --> 00:14:05,824 Speaker 2: the rules are so interesting because it's like, if you 310 00:14:05,904 --> 00:14:08,624 Speaker 2: do not abide by the rules, we have the right 311 00:14:08,664 --> 00:14:12,144 Speaker 2: to send you away. Yeah, it has to be a person, right, 312 00:14:12,224 --> 00:14:15,064 Speaker 2: So like what poor security are I'm gonna tell on 313 00:14:15,104 --> 00:14:18,024 Speaker 2: the Cole Kidman, Sorry man, you gotta go. 314 00:14:18,464 --> 00:14:20,424 Speaker 1: Well, yes, Nicole Kim and I think might be okay 315 00:14:20,424 --> 00:14:22,344 Speaker 1: because she doesn't lean to the sheer and the volume 316 00:14:22,384 --> 00:14:23,664 Speaker 1: as much. Can I tell you who's going to be 317 00:14:23,704 --> 00:14:25,544 Speaker 1: running for her life down the red carpet before she 318 00:14:25,584 --> 00:14:29,344 Speaker 1: gets dragged off? Bella had did? Because Bella had did 319 00:14:29,464 --> 00:14:31,984 Speaker 1: go to the can Film Festival. Every year. Has she 320 00:14:32,024 --> 00:14:32,704 Speaker 1: been in a movie? 321 00:14:32,744 --> 00:14:33,064 Speaker 2: She is? 322 00:14:33,744 --> 00:14:35,784 Speaker 1: She is the Calm Festival. Has she been in a movie? No? 323 00:14:36,024 --> 00:14:39,184 Speaker 1: Does she see the movies? I'm sure yeah, probably no, 324 00:14:39,544 --> 00:14:42,904 Speaker 1: But every year she goes there and makes a huge statement, 325 00:14:42,984 --> 00:14:44,784 Speaker 1: like especially because a lot of people are saying the 326 00:14:44,824 --> 00:14:47,744 Speaker 1: metal is getting a bit too intense with like the 327 00:14:47,824 --> 00:14:49,784 Speaker 1: riff raff. I'm not saying that obviously, I would die 328 00:14:49,784 --> 00:14:53,424 Speaker 1: to be it's not exclusive enough. Yeah, it used to. 329 00:14:54,264 --> 00:14:57,184 Speaker 1: It's become non exclusive enough. And friend Patrick's gone three 330 00:14:57,184 --> 00:15:01,224 Speaker 1: times allegedly, and then there's a bit of a pushback 331 00:15:01,224 --> 00:15:03,184 Speaker 1: I think from like the high fashion community about like 332 00:15:03,184 --> 00:15:05,864 Speaker 1: you know, TikTok stars or like pop stars, or like 333 00:15:05,904 --> 00:15:08,424 Speaker 1: the Kardashians being the ones too. I love all these people, 334 00:15:08,464 --> 00:15:10,304 Speaker 1: sobviously I'm not saying that I'm as basic as they. 335 00:15:10,584 --> 00:15:12,424 Speaker 2: The cardas seems like stop roping us in with them 336 00:15:13,304 --> 00:15:16,824 Speaker 2: for years exactly like reality TV stars being on the 337 00:15:16,864 --> 00:15:17,384 Speaker 2: red carpet. 338 00:15:17,424 --> 00:15:20,864 Speaker 1: So now they're looking towards these film festivals to have 339 00:15:20,904 --> 00:15:24,064 Speaker 1: their big fashion moments. So yeah, people who are known 340 00:15:24,144 --> 00:15:27,424 Speaker 1: for wearing like crazy outfits of these film festivals, Likeabella 341 00:15:27,464 --> 00:15:30,384 Speaker 1: had did, who often turns up and remember saw that 342 00:15:30,464 --> 00:15:33,864 Speaker 1: dress that was completely slit up over her waist and 343 00:15:33,944 --> 00:15:36,784 Speaker 1: it was this huge thing because you could see everything, 344 00:15:36,824 --> 00:15:40,984 Speaker 1: but she had it like tape just over everything, kind 345 00:15:40,984 --> 00:15:41,904 Speaker 1: of covering a little bit. 346 00:15:41,904 --> 00:15:43,264 Speaker 2: I don't think she'd be allowed to wear that. 347 00:15:43,224 --> 00:15:45,344 Speaker 1: But she's had her breast out many times, and also 348 00:15:45,464 --> 00:15:48,384 Speaker 1: on the sheer dress train el Fanny has kenjol Jenna 349 00:15:48,464 --> 00:15:50,704 Speaker 1: has lots of other people in movies, like it's not 350 00:15:50,784 --> 00:15:53,464 Speaker 1: just them, and like they're wearing these beautiful coture outfits, 351 00:15:53,464 --> 00:15:55,704 Speaker 1: but you know, this is the year they won't be 352 00:15:55,744 --> 00:15:57,624 Speaker 1: able to make those statements with their fashion. 353 00:15:57,424 --> 00:16:00,664 Speaker 2: And I'd be so scared to be publicly turned away, 354 00:16:01,304 --> 00:16:04,264 Speaker 2: go way too hard into the opposite direction and yeah, 355 00:16:05,504 --> 00:16:06,344 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 356 00:16:06,264 --> 00:16:08,064 Speaker 1: Like you do like a full none walking down the 357 00:16:08,104 --> 00:16:09,624 Speaker 1: carp and be like they can't say anything. 358 00:16:09,664 --> 00:16:11,784 Speaker 2: And then the next year the rules come out no costumes. 359 00:16:12,024 --> 00:16:14,144 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't wear a habit, ma'am unless you can 360 00:16:14,224 --> 00:16:18,504 Speaker 1: prove you're actually of the cloth. But the cart Film 361 00:16:18,584 --> 00:16:20,904 Speaker 1: Festival has always been a little bit intense with its 362 00:16:20,904 --> 00:16:22,824 Speaker 1: stress code. Well, first of all, let's talk out your 363 00:16:22,824 --> 00:16:24,784 Speaker 1: favorite story from last year. I think a lot of 364 00:16:24,784 --> 00:16:28,544 Speaker 1: this has happened from that because last year a lot 365 00:16:28,544 --> 00:16:32,584 Speaker 1: of attendees were wearing those dresses with the huge long trains, 366 00:16:32,704 --> 00:16:35,384 Speaker 1: and the designers spend months on them, and the women 367 00:16:35,424 --> 00:16:38,024 Speaker 1: spend months getting them like fixed and ready and all 368 00:16:38,024 --> 00:16:39,464 Speaker 1: this sort of stuff, And so when you get to 369 00:16:39,464 --> 00:16:41,264 Speaker 1: the top of the stairs, you want to have your moment. 370 00:16:41,944 --> 00:16:44,024 Speaker 1: And last year there was a bit of a bit 371 00:16:44,064 --> 00:16:45,504 Speaker 1: of a scandal. 372 00:16:45,664 --> 00:16:48,664 Speaker 2: I think we saw the photos before we heard the story. Yeah, 373 00:16:48,864 --> 00:16:52,744 Speaker 2: photos were released from last year's Film Festival of what 374 00:16:52,864 --> 00:16:58,224 Speaker 2: looked like Kelly Rowland screaming at a security Yeah. And 375 00:16:58,304 --> 00:17:01,384 Speaker 2: then I think the Film Festival and Kelly Rowland put 376 00:17:01,384 --> 00:17:05,104 Speaker 2: out statements on exactly what happened. And Kelly Rowland was 377 00:17:05,144 --> 00:17:07,744 Speaker 2: saying that she wore like a stunning out and it 378 00:17:07,864 --> 00:17:09,824 Speaker 2: was stunning, it was beautiful, and she wanted to take 379 00:17:09,864 --> 00:17:14,064 Speaker 2: photos with her gown and the security was kind of 380 00:17:14,104 --> 00:17:16,984 Speaker 2: like man handling her and like pushing her away and saying, well, 381 00:17:17,024 --> 00:17:18,744 Speaker 2: you have to keep moving, you have to keep moving, 382 00:17:19,424 --> 00:17:21,264 Speaker 2: and she just told her to back off, but she 383 00:17:21,344 --> 00:17:23,184 Speaker 2: was still man handling. And then all of these things 384 00:17:23,224 --> 00:17:27,144 Speaker 2: came out where that same security guard was allegedly only 385 00:17:27,184 --> 00:17:29,904 Speaker 2: doing this to like the celebrities who were people of color. 386 00:17:30,384 --> 00:17:33,024 Speaker 2: It became this whole thing. A few other celebrities came 387 00:17:33,024 --> 00:17:34,704 Speaker 2: out and said they were also pushed by the same 388 00:17:34,744 --> 00:17:39,504 Speaker 2: security guard. It became this whole fiasco. And I think 389 00:17:40,024 --> 00:17:43,304 Speaker 2: what's wild about these set of rules is like, obviously 390 00:17:43,384 --> 00:17:46,224 Speaker 2: it was not the attention that can't Film Festival wanted 391 00:17:46,464 --> 00:17:49,304 Speaker 2: on that event and that's all everyone could talk about. Yeah, 392 00:17:49,344 --> 00:17:51,504 Speaker 2: I couldn't even tell you what movies came out from that. 393 00:17:51,704 --> 00:17:54,704 Speaker 1: No, you just know that. I just know. I do 394 00:17:54,784 --> 00:17:57,264 Speaker 1: think these rules are a big response that because they're like, Okay, 395 00:17:57,264 --> 00:18:00,344 Speaker 1: how do we stop this altercation happening? You will just 396 00:18:00,384 --> 00:18:02,824 Speaker 1: ban volume of stresses and that way, hopefully no one 397 00:18:02,824 --> 00:18:04,944 Speaker 1: wants to pose the top of the red carpet. But 398 00:18:04,984 --> 00:18:06,744 Speaker 1: this has been going on for years there and obviously 399 00:18:06,744 --> 00:18:09,344 Speaker 1: people still want to go because it's sexy and exciting, 400 00:18:09,384 --> 00:18:11,904 Speaker 1: it's this huge event. But this has been happening for 401 00:18:11,944 --> 00:18:13,744 Speaker 1: a long time because I think it was about ten 402 00:18:13,824 --> 00:18:16,304 Speaker 1: years ago when Kate blanch It's movie Carol, remember that 403 00:18:16,504 --> 00:18:19,384 Speaker 1: sexy Christmas movie with her and Rudy Mara, so that 404 00:18:19,504 --> 00:18:22,544 Speaker 1: premiere and so many people were turned away, like a 405 00:18:22,584 --> 00:18:25,184 Speaker 1: lot of really famous women. Other actresses were turned away 406 00:18:25,464 --> 00:18:27,744 Speaker 1: for not wearing heels because it's a rule at carn 407 00:18:27,784 --> 00:18:30,024 Speaker 1: Film Festival that if you're a woman, then you must 408 00:18:30,104 --> 00:18:31,504 Speaker 1: be in heels for all the events. 409 00:18:31,504 --> 00:18:32,144 Speaker 2: That's sexist. 410 00:18:32,424 --> 00:18:35,024 Speaker 1: It is sexist. And Emily Blunt, who wasn't even in Carol, 411 00:18:35,024 --> 00:18:36,584 Speaker 1: and I don't think she got turned away, but she 412 00:18:36,744 --> 00:18:38,944 Speaker 1: was in town for Cecario. That was one of her movies, 413 00:18:39,224 --> 00:18:41,904 Speaker 1: and she's also a great movie, great movie. She's like, 414 00:18:41,944 --> 00:18:44,064 Speaker 1: this is so disappointing, Like we're here to celebrate all 415 00:18:44,104 --> 00:18:46,744 Speaker 1: these movies, and you have all these women trying to 416 00:18:46,984 --> 00:18:49,984 Speaker 1: have events and then they're getting turned away to see 417 00:18:50,024 --> 00:18:51,904 Speaker 1: movies just because they're not wearing a pair of heels. 418 00:18:51,664 --> 00:18:53,264 Speaker 2: And they have to walk up so many stairs. You 419 00:18:53,344 --> 00:18:55,824 Speaker 2: got a sore foot, Yeah, exactly. What if you're like, 420 00:18:55,864 --> 00:18:57,984 Speaker 2: so like, what if it's like you and you're very, 421 00:18:58,064 --> 00:18:58,504 Speaker 2: very tall. 422 00:18:58,704 --> 00:19:00,304 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I still wear heels. I'm worried them 423 00:19:00,344 --> 00:19:02,584 Speaker 1: to and I had a lot of trouble getting up 424 00:19:02,584 --> 00:19:03,544 Speaker 1: the stairs. So it's hard. 425 00:19:03,784 --> 00:19:06,584 Speaker 2: So yeah, you're like a living example on like how 426 00:19:06,584 --> 00:19:08,824 Speaker 2: hard it is to have to really think about it. 427 00:19:08,824 --> 00:19:10,264 Speaker 1: If I'm going to leave those stairs where I just 428 00:19:10,344 --> 00:19:12,184 Speaker 1: live in the studio, I haven't worn heels in like 429 00:19:12,224 --> 00:19:13,864 Speaker 1: five years. Oh, you would not be going to the 430 00:19:13,864 --> 00:19:17,304 Speaker 1: can Film Festival all I do. Even in twenty eighteen, 431 00:19:17,344 --> 00:19:19,184 Speaker 1: we're not getting invited. So that's okay. But even in 432 00:19:20,304 --> 00:19:22,544 Speaker 1: Christian Stewart was on the jury because every year they 433 00:19:22,544 --> 00:19:23,984 Speaker 1: bring people in for the jury, like a lot of 434 00:19:23,984 --> 00:19:26,824 Speaker 1: famous names in the jury for the Cawn Film Festival. 435 00:19:26,864 --> 00:19:29,024 Speaker 1: That's how you pick the winners. It's a competition. It's 436 00:19:29,024 --> 00:19:30,984 Speaker 1: okay if you didn't know that, I thought it isn't 437 00:19:30,984 --> 00:19:31,544 Speaker 1: a competition. 438 00:19:31,584 --> 00:19:33,944 Speaker 2: The competition so they're not just like sitting there having 439 00:19:33,944 --> 00:19:35,824 Speaker 2: a good time watching movies like we do and then leave. 440 00:19:36,144 --> 00:19:38,304 Speaker 1: Yeah, like people go to watch them. Not everyone votes. 441 00:19:38,344 --> 00:19:40,144 Speaker 1: The jury votes, and then there are people who win. 442 00:19:40,224 --> 00:19:41,264 Speaker 1: It's like you win the Palm Place. 443 00:19:41,424 --> 00:19:43,504 Speaker 2: There's a jury of celebrities. 444 00:19:44,104 --> 00:19:47,144 Speaker 1: Like different people like filmmakers and directors and actors and actresses. 445 00:19:47,384 --> 00:19:49,584 Speaker 1: So they all come together and they decide the winners 446 00:19:50,024 --> 00:19:52,424 Speaker 1: from the film festival. And then if you win like 447 00:19:52,504 --> 00:19:54,544 Speaker 1: the Palm Dora, like a really big award, then it 448 00:19:54,544 --> 00:19:57,224 Speaker 1: gives you this huge, big international buzz. This is why 449 00:19:57,264 --> 00:19:58,864 Speaker 1: every time I say to you, this movie won something 450 00:19:58,904 --> 00:20:00,424 Speaker 1: of the can Film Festival, it's going to be big. 451 00:20:00,424 --> 00:20:02,744 Speaker 1: That's why we talk about it. Got it, yeah, got 452 00:20:02,744 --> 00:20:06,224 Speaker 1: it for next time? Understood. So in twenty eighteen, Christian 453 00:20:06,304 --> 00:20:10,064 Speaker 1: Stewart was on the jury and she was wearing a 454 00:20:10,064 --> 00:20:12,944 Speaker 1: pair of heels and then she just like decided that 455 00:20:12,984 --> 00:20:14,904 Speaker 1: she she just took them off on the red carpet, 456 00:20:15,064 --> 00:20:17,504 Speaker 1: and she walked up the stairs barefoot, and it was 457 00:20:17,544 --> 00:20:19,384 Speaker 1: such a big controversy and everyone's like, she's never going 458 00:20:19,464 --> 00:20:22,664 Speaker 1: to be invited or she just saw She just like 459 00:20:22,704 --> 00:20:24,624 Speaker 1: didn't want to wear a massive pair of heels, and 460 00:20:24,624 --> 00:20:27,224 Speaker 1: she's like, she wears flats to so many red carpets. 461 00:20:27,224 --> 00:20:29,264 Speaker 1: She's not really her heels because she wore hot pants 462 00:20:29,304 --> 00:20:31,624 Speaker 1: and the oscars, Like she just wants to be comfortable 463 00:20:31,664 --> 00:20:33,664 Speaker 1: and she's got her own sense of style. But that 464 00:20:33,824 --> 00:20:36,664 Speaker 1: was such a huge thing. As she was walking, she 465 00:20:36,664 --> 00:20:38,704 Speaker 1: took them off, walked to the red carpet, walked up 466 00:20:38,704 --> 00:20:40,344 Speaker 1: the stairs, and as she walked into the theater she 467 00:20:40,344 --> 00:20:42,784 Speaker 1: put them back on. Okay, I think she just was 468 00:20:42,824 --> 00:20:45,584 Speaker 1: well done, worried about falling. But it caused such a 469 00:20:45,664 --> 00:20:46,704 Speaker 1: huge controversy. 470 00:20:47,144 --> 00:20:48,024 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 471 00:20:48,384 --> 00:20:49,584 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's rough out there. 472 00:20:49,624 --> 00:20:51,424 Speaker 2: And then she'd been on the jury since. 473 00:20:51,624 --> 00:20:57,264 Speaker 1: No, but I don't think it's a start a rumor. 474 00:20:57,784 --> 00:21:02,224 Speaker 1: And then she's banned from the carn I don't think 475 00:21:02,224 --> 00:21:03,664 Speaker 1: you get banned from that. I think you like it's 476 00:21:03,664 --> 00:21:06,144 Speaker 1: a rotating thing. Maybe she's got to stand talking to 477 00:21:06,384 --> 00:21:08,344 Speaker 1: so we'll be seeing all the photos come out from 478 00:21:08,384 --> 00:21:10,344 Speaker 1: the carn Film Festival over the next couple of days, 479 00:21:10,464 --> 00:21:11,864 Speaker 1: So guys, keep your eyes pilled. 480 00:21:11,664 --> 00:21:13,424 Speaker 2: Oh my god. And then we should judge whether they 481 00:21:13,464 --> 00:21:16,224 Speaker 2: should be allowed, depending on will it be like the 482 00:21:16,304 --> 00:21:19,584 Speaker 2: rule makers, like where the security guards. 483 00:21:19,464 --> 00:21:21,224 Speaker 1: Will be, like should she have been pushed over by 484 00:21:21,264 --> 00:21:26,624 Speaker 1: security guard? Yes or no? We can vote Nana Nanali. So, Emily, 485 00:21:26,664 --> 00:21:28,784 Speaker 1: when I say the name to you, Keith McNally, do 486 00:21:28,824 --> 00:21:29,744 Speaker 1: you know who that is. 487 00:21:30,544 --> 00:21:33,904 Speaker 2: Not really heard? The name been drown around a lot, 488 00:21:34,704 --> 00:21:35,064 Speaker 2: so I. 489 00:21:35,104 --> 00:21:37,264 Speaker 1: Need you to cast your mind back to twenty twenty two. 490 00:21:37,464 --> 00:21:40,584 Speaker 1: One of the greatest celebrity stories of all time just 491 00:21:40,624 --> 00:21:44,624 Speaker 1: fell into our laps because Keith McNally is a restaurant owner. 492 00:21:44,664 --> 00:21:48,184 Speaker 1: He owns Balthazar, which is a very very famous restaurant 493 00:21:48,224 --> 00:21:50,904 Speaker 1: New York. There's frequented by a lot of celebs. So 494 00:21:50,944 --> 00:21:53,024 Speaker 1: whenever you see these stories about like on du Noir 495 00:21:53,224 --> 00:21:55,424 Speaker 1: and like the tabloids, or even like you know, when 496 00:21:55,424 --> 00:21:58,024 Speaker 1: you follow celebrities for a day, like Balvazar is one 497 00:21:58,024 --> 00:22:00,504 Speaker 1: of the places the hotspots they're always hitting people are 498 00:22:00,544 --> 00:22:03,624 Speaker 1: like they go there to be seen, essentially. So in 499 00:22:03,664 --> 00:22:06,544 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, Keith McNally put out a post on 500 00:22:06,624 --> 00:22:11,904 Speaker 1: Instagram about a young man named James Cardon and this 501 00:22:11,664 --> 00:22:13,704 Speaker 1: is this is what he said. And I think it's 502 00:22:13,704 --> 00:22:15,344 Speaker 1: important just to give everyone a visual if you don't 503 00:22:15,344 --> 00:22:17,264 Speaker 1: remember this. This is the photo he put up of 504 00:22:17,304 --> 00:22:21,144 Speaker 1: James Cordon. It is a blurry, pixelated Google image that 505 00:22:21,184 --> 00:22:23,824 Speaker 1: he clearly screen screenshot. 506 00:22:23,624 --> 00:22:25,304 Speaker 2: Screened it off a screenshot. 507 00:22:25,424 --> 00:22:28,904 Speaker 1: Yeah. It kind of also makes it more demeaning for 508 00:22:28,984 --> 00:22:31,464 Speaker 1: James Corden that it's like, there's so many photos of 509 00:22:31,504 --> 00:22:33,384 Speaker 1: him available and the one that this man put up 510 00:22:33,424 --> 00:22:35,344 Speaker 1: is like he did a wikedia. 511 00:22:35,584 --> 00:22:38,064 Speaker 2: Find the worst celebrity photos of the celebrity. They have 512 00:22:38,064 --> 00:22:39,464 Speaker 2: a full page on he did that. 513 00:22:39,544 --> 00:22:42,664 Speaker 1: So he posted and underneath in the caption he wrote, 514 00:22:43,024 --> 00:22:46,584 Speaker 1: James Corden is a hugely gifted comedian. Debatable on that one, 515 00:22:46,784 --> 00:22:50,184 Speaker 1: but a tiny creton of a man and the most 516 00:22:50,224 --> 00:22:54,104 Speaker 1: abusive customer to my Balthazar's servers since the restaurant opened 517 00:22:54,104 --> 00:22:56,784 Speaker 1: twenty five years ago. Then you want to say, I 518 00:22:56,784 --> 00:22:59,824 Speaker 1: don't often eighty six a customer, but today I eighty 519 00:22:59,864 --> 00:23:03,104 Speaker 1: six Cordon. It did not make me laugh. Here are 520 00:23:03,144 --> 00:23:05,584 Speaker 1: two examples of the funny man's treatment of my staff. 521 00:23:05,984 --> 00:23:08,424 Speaker 1: So he went on to talk about James eating his 522 00:23:08,504 --> 00:23:11,704 Speaker 1: main course at Balthazar, and then he alleges that James 523 00:23:11,704 --> 00:23:14,704 Speaker 1: Corden showed a hair to a Balthasar manager who was 524 00:23:14,784 --> 00:23:16,904 Speaker 1: very apologetic. I was like, my god, James, sorry about 525 00:23:16,904 --> 00:23:19,384 Speaker 1: the hair and your food, And apparently James Corden was 526 00:23:19,424 --> 00:23:21,864 Speaker 1: really nasty and said, get us another round of drinks 527 00:23:21,864 --> 00:23:24,344 Speaker 1: this second, and also take care of all our drinks 528 00:23:24,424 --> 00:23:27,704 Speaker 1: so far. This way, I won't write any nasty reviews 529 00:23:27,744 --> 00:23:29,944 Speaker 1: on Yelp, not the name check of yelp. 530 00:23:30,024 --> 00:23:31,064 Speaker 2: Oh my. 531 00:23:31,784 --> 00:23:33,744 Speaker 1: But I also love it. That's James Corden's go to. 532 00:23:33,904 --> 00:23:35,624 Speaker 1: Like all the people. He could have rubbished this to 533 00:23:35,784 --> 00:23:37,744 Speaker 1: all the people. He could have stopped all that. He's like, 534 00:23:37,904 --> 00:23:38,944 Speaker 1: I'm taking this to Yelp. 535 00:23:39,024 --> 00:23:43,584 Speaker 2: Yeah, and if anything, at least Google reviews ye anymore, James, 536 00:23:43,784 --> 00:23:46,264 Speaker 2: Look at that's your feedback. 537 00:23:47,264 --> 00:23:49,624 Speaker 1: Manage your report. Number two written by Keith. This is 538 00:23:49,664 --> 00:23:50,704 Speaker 1: in the same caption. 539 00:23:50,704 --> 00:23:52,544 Speaker 2: Wait's still about James, y still James? 540 00:23:52,584 --> 00:23:54,544 Speaker 1: No, the whole post about James. Look, that's why he's. 541 00:23:54,384 --> 00:23:54,944 Speaker 2: Got the photo. 542 00:23:54,984 --> 00:23:58,024 Speaker 1: Oh geez yeah, okay, okay, this is the second. No, 543 00:23:58,104 --> 00:24:00,224 Speaker 1: it's it's a two part hit on James Corden. Did 544 00:24:00,264 --> 00:24:00,584 Speaker 1: this happen? 545 00:24:00,664 --> 00:24:01,624 Speaker 2: In the same night. 546 00:24:02,504 --> 00:24:06,224 Speaker 1: No, these are two different instances, but both put together 547 00:24:06,344 --> 00:24:09,384 Speaker 1: in the same complaint Public plane plaint against James Cordeny, 548 00:24:10,384 --> 00:24:13,624 Speaker 1: Keith writes, I'm quite uncomfortable. Yeah, you should be. Just 549 00:24:13,624 --> 00:24:17,104 Speaker 1: gets weight worse. Keith writes, James Corden was at Balthazar 550 00:24:17,224 --> 00:24:19,904 Speaker 1: with his wife on October ninth for brunch. He asked 551 00:24:19,904 --> 00:24:22,864 Speaker 1: for a table outside and we took him to table 552 00:24:22,944 --> 00:24:25,464 Speaker 1: three oh one. Mister Cardon, so like, they're just really 553 00:24:25,504 --> 00:24:27,184 Speaker 1: wanting to show they've got the details and I'm making 554 00:24:27,224 --> 00:24:27,504 Speaker 1: this up. 555 00:24:27,544 --> 00:24:30,144 Speaker 2: So we're assuming three oh one is in fact outside. 556 00:24:30,344 --> 00:24:33,264 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, allegations check out. So far, so far, it's 557 00:24:33,264 --> 00:24:37,504 Speaker 1: all true. Mister Carden's wife ordered an egg yolk omelet 558 00:24:37,744 --> 00:24:39,464 Speaker 1: with cheese and salad. 559 00:24:39,624 --> 00:24:43,224 Speaker 2: Egg yolk omelet, Yeah delicious because you usually go for 560 00:24:43,264 --> 00:24:45,224 Speaker 2: the egg whites to be like guendapaltro, but. 561 00:24:45,264 --> 00:24:47,064 Speaker 1: No egg yolks. A bit more decadent. You know, I 562 00:24:47,184 --> 00:24:48,344 Speaker 1: made an egg yoak colma before. 563 00:24:50,904 --> 00:24:52,184 Speaker 2: What do I do with the whites? 564 00:24:52,424 --> 00:24:55,504 Speaker 1: I guess you drink them afterwards. A few minutes later 565 00:24:55,584 --> 00:24:58,304 Speaker 1: they received the food. James called their server and told 566 00:24:58,344 --> 00:25:00,944 Speaker 1: her there was a little bit of egg white mixed 567 00:25:00,984 --> 00:25:02,344 Speaker 1: in with the egg yolks. 568 00:25:02,464 --> 00:25:03,224 Speaker 2: I would never do that. 569 00:25:03,304 --> 00:25:05,344 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the correct response. I would never the 570 00:25:05,344 --> 00:25:08,904 Speaker 1: way to inform manager he saw a little white speck 571 00:25:08,944 --> 00:25:10,224 Speaker 1: in the yellow dish. 572 00:25:10,384 --> 00:25:12,504 Speaker 2: But you know sometimes egg yolks have because I make 573 00:25:12,504 --> 00:25:15,264 Speaker 2: eggs every day. Yeah, I have eggs every single day breakfast. 574 00:25:15,624 --> 00:25:18,704 Speaker 2: Sometimes when you just do egg yolk, you do get 575 00:25:18,744 --> 00:25:21,184 Speaker 2: a little bit of white, but you physically can't remove it. 576 00:25:21,264 --> 00:25:22,984 Speaker 1: Well, not on James Corden's watch, and not in his 577 00:25:23,024 --> 00:25:23,664 Speaker 1: wife's breakfast. 578 00:25:24,104 --> 00:25:25,944 Speaker 2: I wish I was there. I could took some sense 579 00:25:25,944 --> 00:25:26,504 Speaker 2: into this man. 580 00:25:27,024 --> 00:25:30,144 Speaker 1: You would have been like, I'm so sorry. I make 581 00:25:30,144 --> 00:25:32,984 Speaker 1: eggs every day and James Corden just looking blank. 582 00:25:33,544 --> 00:25:35,584 Speaker 2: Let me explain the logistics of eggs for you. 583 00:25:36,744 --> 00:25:38,784 Speaker 1: Well, unfortunately you weren't there that day, so what they 584 00:25:38,784 --> 00:25:42,784 Speaker 1: had to do was so what happened. So what happened 585 00:25:42,784 --> 00:25:45,024 Speaker 1: then was that the kitchen had to remake the dish, 586 00:25:45,104 --> 00:25:48,104 Speaker 1: but unfortunately they sent it out with home fries instead 587 00:25:48,104 --> 00:25:51,664 Speaker 1: of salad. And that's when an extra. 588 00:25:51,464 --> 00:25:53,144 Speaker 2: Perk because you would have had a first dish with 589 00:25:53,264 --> 00:25:55,504 Speaker 2: the salad and now she's getting extra fries as well. 590 00:25:55,664 --> 00:25:58,304 Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds like a great day to be anyway, 591 00:25:58,344 --> 00:26:01,144 Speaker 1: so they said it back because it had a speck 592 00:26:01,184 --> 00:26:04,184 Speaker 1: of white in it, and then also the fries. Yeah, okay, 593 00:26:04,224 --> 00:26:05,824 Speaker 1: I can't start enough. How this is in the point 594 00:26:05,824 --> 00:26:06,784 Speaker 1: of my story? 595 00:26:06,944 --> 00:26:10,584 Speaker 2: Okay, sorry, I would understand if the opposite happened, like 596 00:26:10,664 --> 00:26:12,864 Speaker 2: if I ordered fries but got salad instead, that would 597 00:26:12,864 --> 00:26:13,104 Speaker 2: piss me. 598 00:26:13,144 --> 00:26:16,744 Speaker 1: I would have flipped the table. You're getting fries. Yeah, okay, 599 00:26:16,864 --> 00:26:19,144 Speaker 1: I know. I'm already getting annoyed rich people. You know. 600 00:26:19,344 --> 00:26:21,384 Speaker 2: Do you think his wife told him to say something? 601 00:26:21,424 --> 00:26:23,264 Speaker 1: Oh? I don't. I doubt it from what I've heard 602 00:26:23,304 --> 00:26:26,424 Speaker 1: about him his wife's relationship, like sticking into the floor, 603 00:26:27,584 --> 00:26:29,624 Speaker 1: and they sent it out with home fries instead of salad. 604 00:26:29,784 --> 00:26:32,384 Speaker 1: That's when James Corden began yelling like a crazy person 605 00:26:32,424 --> 00:26:34,584 Speaker 1: to the server. You can't do your job. You can't 606 00:26:34,624 --> 00:26:36,784 Speaker 1: do your job. Maybe I should go into the kitchen 607 00:26:36,784 --> 00:26:38,584 Speaker 1: and cook the omelet myself. 608 00:26:38,264 --> 00:26:42,304 Speaker 2: But then he would accidentally get egg whites and always happens. Yeah, 609 00:26:43,304 --> 00:26:45,944 Speaker 2: I hope he didn't do that, it's. 610 00:26:45,784 --> 00:26:49,864 Speaker 1: Not the point. Apparently, the waiter was very apologetic and 611 00:26:49,904 --> 00:26:52,544 Speaker 1: they brought the manager over the table. They returned the dish, 612 00:26:52,584 --> 00:26:55,144 Speaker 1: and after that everything was fine. He then gave them 613 00:26:55,224 --> 00:26:59,144 Speaker 1: promotional champagne classes. I'm assuming like glasses that say Balthazar 614 00:26:59,224 --> 00:27:03,664 Speaker 1: on it to James Corden, who was apparently very nice 615 00:27:03,664 --> 00:27:05,864 Speaker 1: to the manager but then very nasty to the server 616 00:27:05,984 --> 00:27:08,384 Speaker 1: and they were very shaken, but she said somehow his 617 00:27:08,464 --> 00:27:11,824 Speaker 1: staff managed to continue their shift. As you probably remember, 618 00:27:11,904 --> 00:27:16,264 Speaker 1: the time, that story went absolutely viral crazy. Keith McNally 619 00:27:16,464 --> 00:27:18,944 Speaker 1: got a huge amount of followers. People were like hanging 620 00:27:18,944 --> 00:27:21,624 Speaker 1: on his every word. James Corden was already in like 621 00:27:21,624 --> 00:27:23,104 Speaker 1: a bit of a place of people thinking that he 622 00:27:23,224 --> 00:27:25,104 Speaker 1: was like a great guy. There's a lot of different backlash. 623 00:27:25,224 --> 00:27:28,824 Speaker 2: There were so many rumors that were like crazy rumors, 624 00:27:29,024 --> 00:27:31,384 Speaker 2: but it was also crazy how many there were from 625 00:27:31,424 --> 00:27:34,544 Speaker 2: different sources. So all just like when this happened, I 626 00:27:34,584 --> 00:27:37,104 Speaker 2: remember everyone just going, oh it now makes. 627 00:27:36,904 --> 00:27:40,024 Speaker 1: Sense, yeah exactly, And like all the magic he'd had 628 00:27:40,104 --> 00:27:42,504 Speaker 1: from like carpool karaoke and stuff had just kind of 629 00:27:42,544 --> 00:27:44,224 Speaker 1: worn off, and all of a sudden everyone had a 630 00:27:44,264 --> 00:27:47,424 Speaker 1: James Corden story of him being rude to like restaurant 631 00:27:47,464 --> 00:27:49,904 Speaker 1: people or staff managers, people on his own staff, at 632 00:27:49,904 --> 00:27:53,104 Speaker 1: his show, his family, his family members on a plane. 633 00:27:53,224 --> 00:27:56,544 Speaker 1: There was a whole situation. Now you're probably wondering, Laura, 634 00:27:56,664 --> 00:27:58,224 Speaker 1: that happened in twenty twenty two. 635 00:27:58,304 --> 00:28:02,224 Speaker 2: Oh shit, I forgot that, So why are we talking 636 00:28:02,224 --> 00:28:02,704 Speaker 2: about it now? 637 00:28:02,704 --> 00:28:05,024 Speaker 1: All you're taking away from this is the egg situation, 638 00:28:05,184 --> 00:28:06,504 Speaker 1: like in your head now, Like as soon as I 639 00:28:06,504 --> 00:28:07,824 Speaker 1: said egg, you just glazed all. 640 00:28:07,704 --> 00:28:09,944 Speaker 2: Like com pictures myself going back home and then seeing 641 00:28:09,944 --> 00:28:11,824 Speaker 2: if I can make well. 642 00:28:11,824 --> 00:28:13,704 Speaker 1: It's good to have goals. The reason I'm bringing it 643 00:28:13,744 --> 00:28:16,984 Speaker 1: up now is that Keith McNally has released a memoir 644 00:28:17,984 --> 00:28:23,984 Speaker 1: and the memoir is called I Regret Almost Everything, which incidentally, 645 00:28:24,024 --> 00:28:25,824 Speaker 1: if I ever write a memo, will also be the 646 00:28:25,904 --> 00:28:32,424 Speaker 1: name of my book. So it's a bit of a 647 00:28:32,464 --> 00:28:36,464 Speaker 1: misleading title, because no, he's not. He's not sad at all. 648 00:28:36,464 --> 00:28:38,464 Speaker 1: It's a bit of a misleading title because in an 649 00:28:38,464 --> 00:28:40,944 Speaker 1: excerpt by People magazine that was released in the last 650 00:28:40,944 --> 00:28:44,224 Speaker 1: couple of days, they have got a few chapters from 651 00:28:44,224 --> 00:28:47,504 Speaker 1: the book, and when you read through the chapters, Keith 652 00:28:47,744 --> 00:28:51,424 Speaker 1: does not he doesn't regret that much about James cordon 653 00:28:51,424 --> 00:28:53,224 Speaker 1: at least Obviously. I haven't read the whole book, and 654 00:28:53,304 --> 00:28:56,264 Speaker 1: maybe I will, but I've only read the James Corden sections. 655 00:28:56,304 --> 00:28:59,224 Speaker 1: I should say the audiobook is narrated by Academy Award 656 00:28:59,304 --> 00:29:03,344 Speaker 1: nominate actor Richard E. Grant. So you're reading Keith mcmalley's 657 00:29:03,384 --> 00:29:06,584 Speaker 1: wild thoughts through Richard E. Grant's voice if you listen 658 00:29:06,664 --> 00:29:10,544 Speaker 1: to the audiobook version. And so apparently he doesn't regret 659 00:29:10,624 --> 00:29:12,944 Speaker 1: anything that he said about James Corden. In fact, he's 660 00:29:12,984 --> 00:29:15,184 Speaker 1: ready now to tell the story of why he really 661 00:29:15,224 --> 00:29:17,904 Speaker 1: posted that photo in that story because at the time 662 00:29:18,264 --> 00:29:19,704 Speaker 1: a lot of people said to him, you're just trying 663 00:29:19,704 --> 00:29:22,104 Speaker 1: to get clout, You're just trying to get more people 664 00:29:22,104 --> 00:29:23,984 Speaker 1: to a restaurant, like you're trying to be famous. And 665 00:29:24,024 --> 00:29:25,624 Speaker 1: at the time he was like, this is nothing to 666 00:29:25,664 --> 00:29:27,904 Speaker 1: do with me. It's nothing to do with fame. It's 667 00:29:27,944 --> 00:29:30,664 Speaker 1: about protecting my staff and my service. I don't care 668 00:29:30,704 --> 00:29:32,584 Speaker 1: how famous you are. You can't come in here and 669 00:29:32,624 --> 00:29:35,024 Speaker 1: be read to my stuff. And a lot of people 670 00:29:35,904 --> 00:29:37,664 Speaker 1: really on his side for that, like me and Cludic 671 00:29:37,664 --> 00:29:39,224 Speaker 1: because I'm like I also, as you know, I'm just 672 00:29:39,304 --> 00:29:41,784 Speaker 1: over rude celebrities and like people thinking they can just 673 00:29:41,784 --> 00:29:43,144 Speaker 1: talk to anyone and they get like a bit of 674 00:29:43,144 --> 00:29:44,424 Speaker 1: a following, or they get a bit of money, they 675 00:29:44,464 --> 00:29:48,544 Speaker 1: can behave however they want. So Keith McNally became like 676 00:29:48,664 --> 00:29:51,864 Speaker 1: the champion of the people in a way, and now 677 00:29:51,904 --> 00:29:53,584 Speaker 1: he's kind of come out and said that was all 678 00:29:53,664 --> 00:29:56,344 Speaker 1: a bit of a lie. So in the book, he 679 00:29:56,424 --> 00:29:59,344 Speaker 1: writes that the James Corden story about him coming in 680 00:29:59,384 --> 00:30:01,664 Speaker 1: his staff saying he was rude turned out to be 681 00:30:01,824 --> 00:30:06,144 Speaker 1: a gift from heaven, because he said blasting James Cordon 682 00:30:06,144 --> 00:30:09,024 Speaker 1: on Instagram wasn't solely out of loyalty to the service 683 00:30:09,144 --> 00:30:12,424 Speaker 1: or his restaurant workers, as he had previously claimed in 684 00:30:12,504 --> 00:30:15,664 Speaker 1: many interviews. He said he did it to gain notoriety 685 00:30:15,744 --> 00:30:19,704 Speaker 1: on social media and to ultimately gain more Instagram followers. 686 00:30:20,384 --> 00:30:21,664 Speaker 1: He said, something would taken. 687 00:30:23,144 --> 00:30:25,504 Speaker 2: That's something I would have taken to my grave. 688 00:30:26,264 --> 00:30:27,824 Speaker 1: Like keep it on the inside. But like this is 689 00:30:27,824 --> 00:30:30,104 Speaker 1: how much he's like ready to like tell his story. 690 00:30:30,104 --> 00:30:31,464 Speaker 2: Why what's he getting out of it? 691 00:30:31,624 --> 00:30:34,504 Speaker 1: He said, by exposing James Corden's abuse, I think the 692 00:30:34,504 --> 00:30:36,264 Speaker 1: important thing tre and b it. He still says James 693 00:30:36,264 --> 00:30:39,504 Speaker 1: Corden did all that. No one is refuting that. Even 694 00:30:39,544 --> 00:30:42,184 Speaker 1: James Corden at the time was like, I did do that, 695 00:30:42,224 --> 00:30:43,704 Speaker 1: but I didn't mean it like that, and I was 696 00:30:43,704 --> 00:30:45,304 Speaker 1: just trying to defend my wife, and I didn't. I 697 00:30:45,344 --> 00:30:48,304 Speaker 1: wasn't meaning to be rude. His wife is like, please, 698 00:30:48,384 --> 00:30:51,704 Speaker 1: I can never eno online again. You've ruined it. He said. 699 00:30:51,744 --> 00:30:54,664 Speaker 1: By exposing Cordon's abuse, it appeared as though I was 700 00:30:54,704 --> 00:30:57,944 Speaker 1: defending a principle, But all I was doing was seeking 701 00:30:57,984 --> 00:31:01,744 Speaker 1: the approval of my young Balthazar staff. He then went 702 00:31:01,784 --> 00:31:05,464 Speaker 1: on to say, after his James Corden, yeah, I wonder 703 00:31:05,464 --> 00:31:07,024 Speaker 1: if he kind of tested it out in the kitchen 704 00:31:07,344 --> 00:31:09,984 Speaker 1: and was like that James Corden's awful, and everyone's like yeah. 705 00:31:10,184 --> 00:31:13,344 Speaker 1: He was like, oh okay stuff. Hey, yeah, it's my 706 00:31:13,384 --> 00:31:14,824 Speaker 1: young staff who never looked at me and gave me 707 00:31:14,864 --> 00:31:15,384 Speaker 1: any respect. 708 00:31:15,384 --> 00:31:18,624 Speaker 2: Now like me, Hey, James Cory. Yes, nice to my staff, 709 00:31:19,384 --> 00:31:19,824 Speaker 2: he said. 710 00:31:19,944 --> 00:31:23,184 Speaker 1: After his James Corden post began to go viral, he 711 00:31:23,264 --> 00:31:26,784 Speaker 1: said his Instagram follower account began to increase by tens 712 00:31:26,784 --> 00:31:29,304 Speaker 1: of thousands, which I remember that happening. Everyone was like, 713 00:31:29,304 --> 00:31:31,704 Speaker 1: oh my god, he's got up ten two thirty thousand. 714 00:31:32,024 --> 00:31:33,904 Speaker 2: I should write something about James Corden. 715 00:31:33,704 --> 00:31:36,504 Speaker 1: Yeah, or just every celebrity Weeks had a bad interaction with, 716 00:31:37,144 --> 00:31:40,024 Speaker 1: and it made him feel that he had hit the jackpot, 717 00:31:40,464 --> 00:31:43,824 Speaker 1: and ultimately he felt like he could force James Cordon's 718 00:31:43,824 --> 00:31:47,024 Speaker 1: hand into apologizing or to save face, because then this 719 00:31:47,064 --> 00:31:49,424 Speaker 1: is what he's never said before. Keith McNelly then writes 720 00:31:49,464 --> 00:31:53,024 Speaker 1: in his book, James Carden called me four times the 721 00:31:53,144 --> 00:31:56,944 Speaker 1: day the post came out, each time asking me please 722 00:31:57,104 --> 00:32:00,424 Speaker 1: please please delete it. And on the last phone call 723 00:32:00,544 --> 00:32:01,664 Speaker 1: he sounded desperate. 724 00:32:02,104 --> 00:32:04,864 Speaker 2: Oh my god. He wrote all this because I wrote 725 00:32:04,864 --> 00:32:05,144 Speaker 2: the book. 726 00:32:05,184 --> 00:32:06,824 Speaker 1: So this is like he's getting so he posted that 727 00:32:06,904 --> 00:32:11,344 Speaker 1: pixelated and then James Corden's call him, call him, calling him, 728 00:32:11,384 --> 00:32:13,504 Speaker 1: and each time he's getting more desperate. And this is 729 00:32:13,504 --> 00:32:15,344 Speaker 1: what Keith McNelly has written, which he sounds like a 730 00:32:15,464 --> 00:32:18,464 Speaker 1: so zuper. He's like, I was relishing in my hold 731 00:32:18,464 --> 00:32:26,584 Speaker 1: over someone so famous. He's probably looking his phone into 732 00:32:26,624 --> 00:32:28,824 Speaker 1: James Gordon's face is popping up and he's like, and. 733 00:32:28,784 --> 00:32:30,184 Speaker 2: He's telling us that great news. 734 00:32:30,184 --> 00:32:30,464 Speaker 1: Guys. 735 00:32:30,544 --> 00:32:32,544 Speaker 2: Caught in his crying. He's caught in his crying. 736 00:32:33,064 --> 00:32:35,784 Speaker 1: He's like, I was relishing my hold over someone so famous. 737 00:32:35,824 --> 00:32:38,304 Speaker 1: I told him I wouldn't delete it, like a little 738 00:32:38,304 --> 00:32:43,944 Speaker 1: dictator I was in. I'm sorry, this man's amazing, he's 739 00:32:44,144 --> 00:32:47,304 Speaker 1: crazy edit this book. No, he wrote in the book, 740 00:32:47,384 --> 00:32:49,944 Speaker 1: like a little dictator. I was intoxicated with the power 741 00:32:49,944 --> 00:32:50,664 Speaker 1: I've received. 742 00:32:51,224 --> 00:32:53,984 Speaker 2: God, this man should not have any power. This is 743 00:32:54,024 --> 00:32:58,024 Speaker 2: the kind of man we say should never have power. Ever. 744 00:32:58,384 --> 00:33:00,824 Speaker 1: Well, thank god. He's like only using his power to 745 00:33:00,904 --> 00:33:04,304 Speaker 1: like drive celebrities crazy, and he's like overpriced restaurants instead 746 00:33:04,344 --> 00:33:06,184 Speaker 1: of actually like trying to get into politics or something 747 00:33:06,224 --> 00:33:07,704 Speaker 1: like this is where he should be. He should be 748 00:33:07,704 --> 00:33:09,224 Speaker 1: in the restaurant business, not anywhere else. 749 00:33:09,264 --> 00:33:11,824 Speaker 2: I love how he opened admit it, like I was 750 00:33:11,944 --> 00:33:16,944 Speaker 2: relishing in someone's downfall then I started, But I don't regretit. 751 00:33:17,664 --> 00:33:19,424 Speaker 1: He's like, I don't regret if anything I missed that 752 00:33:19,464 --> 00:33:21,904 Speaker 1: powers Like he sounds in the book, he sounds like 753 00:33:21,904 --> 00:33:23,544 Speaker 1: he's really like, we know, you look back on a 754 00:33:23,704 --> 00:33:25,304 Speaker 1: memory and it was like, oh, I wish I could 755 00:33:25,344 --> 00:33:27,824 Speaker 1: go back there, like you yearn for it. He's yearning 756 00:33:27,864 --> 00:33:33,264 Speaker 1: for like punishing James Borden and making him cry. So 757 00:33:33,704 --> 00:33:36,184 Speaker 1: there we finally didn't a story behind it. 758 00:33:36,224 --> 00:33:37,464 Speaker 2: Sorry for James Carden. 759 00:33:37,504 --> 00:33:40,064 Speaker 1: I mean, I still really don't like obviously he was 760 00:33:40,104 --> 00:33:41,904 Speaker 1: freaking out about this. There's one thing. 761 00:33:41,864 --> 00:33:45,544 Speaker 2: Someone taking you down, but then that saying person writing 762 00:33:45,544 --> 00:33:47,824 Speaker 2: a memoir about how much they enjoyed taking you down. 763 00:33:47,984 --> 00:33:49,184 Speaker 2: Just for their own validation. 764 00:33:49,584 --> 00:33:51,384 Speaker 1: I think if this had been in like an isolated 765 00:33:51,424 --> 00:33:54,704 Speaker 1: incident at the time, maybe James Corden wouldn't have freaked out. 766 00:33:54,744 --> 00:33:56,424 Speaker 1: But as I was saying, it really did kick off 767 00:33:56,424 --> 00:33:58,544 Speaker 1: all of these people coming forward accusations, saying like he 768 00:33:58,624 --> 00:34:01,144 Speaker 1: was difficult to work with. Other restaurants in LA said 769 00:34:01,144 --> 00:34:03,024 Speaker 1: that James like courted, like pull up in front of 770 00:34:03,024 --> 00:34:05,304 Speaker 1: their restaurant when they were clothes and demand to be 771 00:34:05,384 --> 00:34:07,224 Speaker 1: let in, and maybe like, we're literally not open, but 772 00:34:07,264 --> 00:34:08,864 Speaker 1: we can have a table ready for you when we 773 00:34:08,904 --> 00:34:10,984 Speaker 1: do open, and he'll be like, well, a lot of 774 00:34:11,024 --> 00:34:14,024 Speaker 1: good that'll do me now. And then that airplane story 775 00:34:14,024 --> 00:34:15,504 Speaker 1: that we keep talking about, we fullly just tell the 776 00:34:15,504 --> 00:34:17,544 Speaker 1: people again we weren't there. We didn't see it. But 777 00:34:17,544 --> 00:34:20,384 Speaker 1: there's numerous reports that James Cordon was led into the 778 00:34:20,384 --> 00:34:23,344 Speaker 1: business class area like first class area on an overnight 779 00:34:23,424 --> 00:34:25,784 Speaker 1: flight I think it was from New York to London 780 00:34:25,864 --> 00:34:27,664 Speaker 1: or you know, like quite a long flight, and they 781 00:34:27,704 --> 00:34:29,224 Speaker 1: sat him in his seat, and then a woman with 782 00:34:29,264 --> 00:34:31,784 Speaker 1: a little baby came over and was sat next to him, 783 00:34:32,024 --> 00:34:34,584 Speaker 1: and the baby was crying hysterically, and all these people 784 00:34:34,584 --> 00:34:36,664 Speaker 1: saw James Corden look at the woman and the baby 785 00:34:36,904 --> 00:34:39,304 Speaker 1: and then put his headphones on, at his sleep mask on, 786 00:34:39,624 --> 00:34:42,504 Speaker 1: and so many people who again allegedly saw this happen, 787 00:34:42,744 --> 00:34:44,984 Speaker 1: were like, oh, he's not as bad as people say, 788 00:34:45,104 --> 00:34:47,304 Speaker 1: Like there's a crying baby. 789 00:34:46,944 --> 00:34:49,664 Speaker 2: Baby and the woman was like apologizing to him, so, yeah, sorry, 790 00:34:49,704 --> 00:34:51,944 Speaker 2: the baby's crying, and she kept walking away and he 791 00:34:52,024 --> 00:34:52,744 Speaker 2: was like it's fine. 792 00:34:52,824 --> 00:34:54,824 Speaker 1: And then he went to sleep and he slept like 793 00:34:54,904 --> 00:34:57,824 Speaker 1: six hours, and everyone was like, oh, James Cordon's really nice. 794 00:34:57,824 --> 00:34:59,344 Speaker 1: Like he could have complained about the woman, he could 795 00:34:59,344 --> 00:35:01,824 Speaker 1: have had a move. He said nothing. He did nothing. Yeah, 796 00:35:01,824 --> 00:35:04,824 Speaker 1: the plane lands, they're getting their baggage down. The woman's exhausted, 797 00:35:04,904 --> 00:35:06,864 Speaker 1: she hasn't slept, she's been holding a crying baby, walking 798 00:35:06,904 --> 00:35:08,704 Speaker 1: up her down all night. And she turns to him 799 00:35:08,744 --> 00:35:10,864 Speaker 1: and she's like, can you hold your baby for one second? 800 00:35:11,104 --> 00:35:26,624 Speaker 2: It was baby. 801 00:35:15,264 --> 00:35:22,864 Speaker 1: A story is true. We weren't there, but everything about 802 00:35:22,904 --> 00:35:24,864 Speaker 1: that sounds true. She was like, she was getting all 803 00:35:24,904 --> 00:35:26,424 Speaker 1: the baggage down, and she was like, can you hold 804 00:35:26,464 --> 00:35:28,984 Speaker 1: your baby for one second? I've been holding him all night. 805 00:35:29,184 --> 00:35:33,384 Speaker 1: He wasn't a good person at all, Jones. But that 806 00:35:33,544 --> 00:35:35,144 Speaker 1: story came out the same time and that's why it 807 00:35:35,184 --> 00:35:38,864 Speaker 1: didn't really help. So what a time anyway. Keith McNally's 808 00:35:38,864 --> 00:35:41,304 Speaker 1: book is now out in the world. Geez, I regret 809 00:35:41,344 --> 00:35:43,944 Speaker 1: almost everything. That's why he said almost because he's like, 810 00:35:43,984 --> 00:35:44,424 Speaker 1: you know what, I. 811 00:35:44,344 --> 00:35:47,024 Speaker 2: Don't regret And you'll read a full chapter. 812 00:35:47,384 --> 00:35:50,904 Speaker 1: A pixelated photo of James Corden, and a takedown over 813 00:35:50,944 --> 00:35:53,744 Speaker 1: an omelet. So if you're looking for something you need 814 00:35:53,744 --> 00:35:56,424 Speaker 1: to read, that book's sound the world like read for you. 815 00:35:56,984 --> 00:35:59,504 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today. 816 00:35:59,624 --> 00:36:02,504 Speaker 2: If you haven't already, please follow us on TikTok. You 817 00:36:02,544 --> 00:36:05,264 Speaker 2: can find us at the Spill podcast. The Spill is 818 00:36:05,264 --> 00:36:07,944 Speaker 2: produced by Georgie Page with sound production by Scott Stronik. 819 00:36:07,984 --> 00:36:09,864 Speaker 2: And we'll be back here on your podcast feeder three 820 00:36:09,864 --> 00:36:10,744 Speaker 2: pm tomorrow. 821 00:36:10,944 --> 00:36:20,864 Speaker 1: Bye bye ll H